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One of my best friends and I would travel to the local casino some years back from time to time.  Wasn't a very fun casino but it was about as good as we could get for those times as gambling was very restricted back then.  He was a big fan of playing slots and always seemed to have some sort of strategy.  He would look for players who were sitting at a machine for a long period of time and then play them.  There were a couple other things he did that he called "strategy" but I can't remember what they were.

My question for you guys, is there any strategy you know of for slot machines ? I think this more so applies to in person casinos but maybe online as well.

Does waiting to get on a machine that gets heavily played a legit strategy?  Does it make more sense to play different types of machines or play one machines for a long period of time? Etc etc..

This is a well-known strategy (at least in my country 10 years ago, maybe now something has changed in the algorithms). It is based on the fact that when the slot machine was "fed" it must "give". Therefore, some operators of gambling clubs watched slot machines and when they saw that a visitor lost a lot of money on one of the machines, they themselves began to play on it, guessing the moment when it should "give".

And unfortunately that is a strategy that does not work, slot machines are not programmed to give some money after a certain amount of money has been played in the machine, it is random, and each game you play there is an independent event, and as such what happened in the past has no relevance to what will happen in the future with that machine.

There are games in which the past matters, one example of this is blackjack, in which if you take an Ace out of the multiple decks of cards used to play the game then the number of Aces on the decks went down by one, this is why something like card counting works, but I am not aware of anything like that being possible with slot machines.

At first glance, this makes sense and can be effective for certain casino machines. But not for the whole. Talking about strategy, of course, you know better what your friend is saying because he has been interacting with slot machines for a long time and you can even call him a professional slot gambler.

Until now it is still a myth, for us playing slot machines is only a matter of luck, but if you listen to what your friends say about waiting, maybe it means waiting for the slot machine to operate longer so that he takes advantage of it a certain time. with the prolonged operation of the machine. Waiting for engine error? maybe  ;D

In a fair game, be it a slot or not, this strategy won't work because each spin/roll is supposed to be independent of the previous one.
It's a gamblers fallacy (unless the slot machine is rigged) and in a way it has to do with the game RTP. In theory if a game has a 95% RTP then the player is expected to get back $95 for each $100 wagered but in practice this is not always true because, simply, don't know when the machine will start giving back.

Oh, thank you for explaining; that is also what my friend was saying to me, but I couldn't grasp it because he wasn't sharing all of the information and was only providing hints. Right now, I don't think this would work. This has a point as well because if the person played for a lengthy amount of time, it should definitely give, but the question is how long. However, I believe that nowadays, due to technological advancements, it is extremely difficult to devise a strategy that would work, as winning this slot game is entirely dependent on luck.

It is a luck based game just like dice. There is no strategy. You may be lucky or not. That's all you need to know about these games. As far as I know only Blackjack is kind of based on your skill and the rest of the games are more or less are based on your luck.

Even sports is based on some luck.

Do you really in search of a skill based game?

Play chess. Chess is based on skills. What? It doesn't sound cool? The opponents are too smart? That's what happens when the game is based on zero luck and all skills. It suddenly becomes harder than gambling because there are far too many skillful players out there.

When you got zero skills, gambling > skill based games.

And admit it, you are gambling because you have no skills. Then why do you need a strategy?

There is no strategy for slot machines. Most of the times you have to understand that while you are playing online you cannot just go and wait for the people to feed the slot machine money and then try again till the jackpot hits. It's all dependent on the probability which does mean that the probability of you winning is actually very low and therefore people try and use something like : penny slots instead of dollar slots because it gives them more chance to play, making their probability of winning a little bit better. Therefore I do think that you can forget about "strategies" but you can try and play again and again from the change that you might have. Do not go there expecting to find a shortcut because you won't. It's something made for fun. Probability+luck is all you might be able to find important.

As far as I know, while playing slot machines until now, it doesn't really work. There is no detailed strategy regarding slot games. So I've never heard of a waiting strategy for a certain time, maybe it's just an instinct and belief that he made himself to make it seem as if the slot machine game has a strategy. Nothing works for the way you don't say in detail what your friend did. How did he get after doing this strategy? did he really get the JackPot?

I already told in one of the threads that my friends and I tracked in the same way slots that did not give winnings for a long time, and when the losing player left tried to take exactly those slots. About 10 years ago this strategy worked and we could get rich in one evening. As far as it is relevant now, I do not even know as gambling is prohibited in my country and illegal casinos I visit very rarely.

I don't play slots on land-based casino machines because I can't do it in my country. So I just played it online and I just wanted to let you know that any strategy I've implemented so far will only fail in the end. The only reason I love slots is the simplicity of the gameplay and nothing more. I can't expect much because I really can't get a jackpot win in this game.

The only good strategy is to limit the use of money and come back the next day with different expectations. Although we can't expect much from winning, but I have time to enjoy this game.

If this is talking about 10 years ago then it might really be that relevant but in todays then it would be impossible not to think that they had altered it out and it is really a bit impossible for a casino machine on giving out when it is fed up already be some lost player and tend to give back some wins
if ever it do reach into that point. In todays case or in overall aspect or point of view then i dont really believe that there would be some sort of tricks
or strategies in related to this.

The payout in the slot is set by the software and the slot sooner or later must give a win to attract gamblers. Even if the software has changed during this time, the winning algorithm still works according to the same principle - it gives a certain percentage of the amount that has been lost for this slot.

If it still works then this would really be a waiting game to those who had played first and as a person who do knows about on when those machines will be giving back
will particularly be observing from time to time and watch if its the right time to play but chances for a hit or miss situation would be there because you dont
even know if the one whose been currently playing would taking those chances or you the ones who had been waiting back?  :D

In the way this was described, the strategy makes sense. But I doubt the algorithms have remained the same, specially since I'm sure casino owners are acutely aware of it.

You'll still need try your luck and now that COVID hit and with the online business expanding more than ever before it seems that there is little room for strategy when playing something that is governed by the house with very little impact from the player's side such as slot machine.

If anybody found a strategy other than through a potential back-end bug that one can exploit then I'd be impressed and happy to hear about it (as I think most of us will be)

You argue from the point of view of theory, but I personally knew such people and this strategy worked for them.
By the way, this strategy even has a theoretical basis: according to the law, each slot machine must have at least some minimum return, that is, you cannot infuse it so that it takes 100% of the money. That is why if someone was able to lose a lot of money without winning, then the person who continued to play after him has great chances of winning.


Exactly. Anyone who has access to constant monitoring of the slot machine can roughly determine when it will "give".

Chi everyone who plays slot has a strategy but the strategy is as good as one going into the gas station and buying scratch off tickets.  I've had friends who had strategies that worked sometimes and a lot of other times it didn't.  My conclusion "a broken clock is right twice a day".  Complete chance, and terrible odds at that.  It's the reason why casinos are filled with slot machines, those are their money makers for the casino.

It's just a strategy on your friend's mind but there's no actual strategy that would beat slots. It's like making a strategy that we make which we think will beat slots but, there's no proof that it works.
Maybe if your friend has proven that to be working, he'll just do it again and will just pursue for the same strategy. In actual casinos, I don't have that much kind of a strategy or a ritual.

There is definitely a valid idea behind getting on a machine that you know has taken a lot of money recently without any substantial payouts. The very basis of gambling requires that the gambler occasionally gets rewarded or they'll simply never return to the machine which is bad for business. I wouldn't call it much of a strategy because there are likely others trying to do the same and it might even take a few different players using the machine before it builds up a big enough backlog to produce a payout. Besides that, there is not really much strategy involved as the win ratio is predefined and newer machines might even aim to detect intervals between players to reset any window that could allow this sort of strategy.

I think that can be called a strategy but I will perfectly assume and argue that it will depend on the timing on almost all slot machines, it's a rare one tbh. Well, I think that's just kind of myth since all slot machines do random plays and it isn't same to all even if we are talking about online plays too.

No.

Most of the slot machines in casinos have inbuilt RNG and do not pay out whenever it becomes "due". That is just classic gambler's fallacy.

The online slots do not have a strategy either. You may be able to maximise your expected returns by playing the max amount every time to get a chance at bonus features, but that's about it.

I think there's no strategy but pure luck in slots.

In dice there's a good chance can apply strategy but it's hard to win every time with the strategy in the long run and comes in the short run.

I've lost every time on the auto bet, the long i went the more often i lost.
When i played auto bet on dice then I used to record screen and sleep, then check the progression later that day, it was tragic.

There are two viable and feasible strategies that I know of and these would only work on the most unsophisticated types of machines and most likely not in the casinos nor online. The first one is "hacking" the machine. It takes plenty of time but it eventually can be done if two people start observing and noting combinations and eventually get better odds. The other is simpler, and is simply measuring how long was the last big price and go in when it is "hot".

We can think for any strategy and its up to you if you’re going to believe on that or not because for me, there’s no strategy when it comes to slot machines, the system was already set up for house to win on that machine and that game is pure of luck for me. Just enjoy playing slot machines without making any pressure to you, that’s a fun game though.

Most probably the first one will put you on a bigger risk and you can't do this on any Casinos since they monitor everything and one suspicious win can trigger the alarm for sure and you'll be put on a bigger screen. The second one will take a lot of time and money, you can't just count like that and there's no assurance that it can be accurate since slots machines are not fixed. In short, there's no strategy that will work for long term in slot machine, you might find one that will work in just a short time but don't expect that it will also work the next day when you come back.

I don't think gamblers can see the percentage of their win chance as they can in dice or other crypto gambling games.
Also, even if players start to implement strategies then it will be amount raised after certain bets and there's always a chance to go on a lose streak and lose it all.

What’s the probability to win on Slot Machines? i guess its unknown since the slot machines are system operated and I wonder how the house set up the machines and how much its limit of reward for a day. I’m been thinking a lot about the possible strategy and seriously, I can’t find any and it frustrates me so stop looking for such strategy, I just started to play the game without any stress.

Yes, that's what I'm talking about!

Their house edge isn't made public so there's no saying what chance you have of winning.
I've seen there are some casinos that provide bonuses on rolling a certain amount on a particular slot or all slots of a company.
I'm certain those slots have at least 5% house edge.

Man, i will tell you for honest: After i have finished Harvard course about probability i can tell to you that there is no any "strategy" for dice or slots. Even term "strategy" doesn't have any sense towards this games.

It's pure luck-based games and you have only one strategy: Is to count EV (expected value) so you will now win your or loose on a long run.

^ Slot machine online and slot machine offline are totally different from each other. You cannot apply those methods of strategy online because upon spinning the wheels they use RGN so that everyone can verify the probability of this. I think there is no right strategy here, we know that slots online are based on luck and I don't think so how you will discover this strategy.

Physical and online slots are different on some aspects and i dont see on how these things would be verified out but for sure house edge is
really big when it comes to slot games.Its true that it is based on luck and i dont see any strategies that would really be applied on this
because it is really depending on how lucky you are because everything is really on random when it comes to hit those spots.
So better stress out yourself with this one.

I think it's one of their superstition believing that ones a machine is in a continuous play it will give sooner a reward thus guessing the right time by continuing playing the machine. As I believe that would most likely to happen in some other machine but I don't know about nowadays since I rarely play slot. Maybe they were or I were just lucky back then because the longer you play with the same machine you will notice how odd it is to give a reward it's like reading their next move but still guessing.

Money management is the main strategy, it would be hard to describe anything more complex for a range of games.  The best approach is get comfortable and familar with the dynamics of a game on a lower betting amount before moving up to bet seriously.   Not everyone has the patience to do this but I'd suggest its worth it if you are going to be playing for any amount of time, I think people rush a little too much.   Give yourself a budget both cash wise and time and be comfortable with a game before spending much on it.

I believe that in a fair slots game there's not much you can do other than control your spending and stakes.
The rest should be completely random and based on odds and luck.
I don't know anyone who has proven any successful strategy.


I believe that nowadays "modern" casinos shouldn't use it anymore.
But this is a "strategy" of machine owners in general that shouldn't die too soon. As I have recently seen the owners of a keymaster network get arrested for using it on their machines.

more than a strategy it is knowledge of the machines
the gaming machines, by law, must release tot prizes every tot income
so if there are players who play for a long time, not taking any prizes
the chance of having paid a premium is higher

Just luck to win, that's all, and no methods to win, no tricks or anything.
and we just need to insert a coin or token and then press a button or pull a lever, and we have no control over what combinations appear and those combinations are predetermined by the computer software that runs the machine so we cannot change what is programmed to appear.
and playing slot machines is fun because it's for fun, and no matter how often you play it without knowing it, lose more than win and that's also by luck.

There are cases in the past where someone can cheat a physical machine but it doesn't apply generally at all slots. It's also impossible to apply that strategy in an online casino therefore you can now close the possibility of any strategy that can apply to online casinos.

If luck comes to us then good. Just limit the expected winnings in order not to get busted on that day. The same goes when losing. If such cases that whatever we do, we are not hitting those wins, we have to realize that it's not our day but to come back next time.

As most people say Slot gambling is just luck, as for things like that that are considered very convincing, this strategy can't be completely sure. Moreover, by using conventional slot machines, you can see that the strategy applies because of the regulation system in the machine that is often used. Slot machine algorithms vary and it's not necessarily the same as the Slot machines we have. For me the strategy is known by the slot machine controller.

There are fortunate and unfortunate situations here at a same time like, all the usual strategies are applicable to slot machines fortunately but unfortunately I am sure none of them will be profitable to you in any means. So, just playing slots for killing your boredom or to make fun with your friends may help you. If you go for finding a strategy for slots then you may miss all the funs of playing slots with friends.

You are concerned about only physical casino, it seems from your questions but when it comes about online slots then there will be no point of heavily played one or anything related to that (as per my understanding most people here are having only access to online casino hence experiencing real slot machines is not at all possible for gambler like myself.).

I am not aware of how things are with modern devices, so I can’t say anything, but before this strategy worked for sure. And this was a consequence of the fact that the owners of slot machines followed the law (the percentage of return should not be lower than a certain threshold at a certain distance).
As for the "keymaster network" which you said, I did not understand what it was about at all, could you give any links or explain in more detail?

In order for this strategy to work, you need to keep a close eye on the slot machine room for at least two or three hours. If you visit such institutions, you can notice how many people gather there and watch other people's games. Most of these players use this strategy and if it did not work they simply would not be in the hall slot machines.

Slam the machine till it breaks and then get a refund since it's "malfunctioning".

Kidding aside, are you dumb? Slots are simply a game of luck, nothing more nothing else. Anything outside of that isn't a "strategy" or whatnot, it's literally interfering with the game itself (such as, well, what I joked about) and isn't something one should actually do since it interferes with the machine itself (if physical) or the code itself (if online) which ig, can be used by the casino to sue you for illegal tampering and whatnot. In the first place, strategy and the sorts shouldn't be associated with luck-based games such as slots. Poker? Maybe, but slots? Nope.

I've seen this kind of strategy in movies but I've never tried it in person. But when we are going to talk about the slot's algorithm, then yes, winning the jackpot could be achieve in a slot machine that is heavily played during a certain day. However, we don't know when and where is the right slot that you should play to win big amount of money.

In the end of the day, it's still about luck.

Strategy only makes people more confident while starting gambling but the results will depend on how much luck do you have especially for online slots i think it's hard to implemented the strategy which OP mentioned however indeed if you lucky slots machine can provide you unpredictable results but unfortunately seems big winning on slots machine or hit the jackpot only happens seems once for a life time

Nah, I don't think this is a good strategy as slot machines is based on RNG and not if the machine is hot or not. And even if it is not being used, it is continue running it's RNG in the background.

For me, if one machine is not paying me and I've played like $100, then I will I will switch to the next machine that I like to play. Until I find the perfect machine that will give me my lucky bonus or spin.

It was the well-known thing, people are lurking which machines are being played a lot, it means someone is "filling them" and when they stand up someone gets in their spot and continue to play... it's not like it's always working, and I guess we were young and we wanted to believe in that! Why wouldn't that be legit? We can play as long as we have chips, when we lose them we can just stand up and others can take that spot...

That was decades ago, now with online, it's a bit different I guess... we can't possibly know which slots/providers are being played a lot, who is playing, who is winning/losing!

It's more of a superstitious than calling it as a strategy because we aren't doing anything we just hope this machine will pay because it is giving good rewards to someone who played before, this may work or not but it solely depends on individual luck. To be honest there is no strategies to win casino games, we can manage the money and get more bets by spending the money wisely.

We could create and apply our personal strategies but I don't think there's a specific strategy in playing slots. Based on my experience, we couldn't predict how it would roll since there's no definite or consistent result on it so we could win on it by chance or by luck. However, some players apply their superstitious belief believing that it could make them win and I see nothing wrong with that.

This so called strategy is something that I have only seen in the movies, and I cannot personally attest its legitimacy. And if this really existed and applied before, as mentioned that it was some 10 years ago, that is sure has a wide gap in time and is really comparable to the way things are being done and operated nowadays.


I personally think that there is no strategy that is directly meant for slot games, especially in today’s time, since this game is meant to be pure “luck” based. But even so, there is no harm in believing what one wants to believe in as long as it does not badly affect others.

I said decades... I think I  was around 12-13 when I saw and played some fruit slots for the first time, in 2 months I am 37! In that basement, I can't call it a casino, there were2 rooms, in first table soccer, pinball, and a few games... Pacman, the one with dinosaurs and some older ones, I can't remember the name of that little guy with axe! :) And in the second room a few machines for fruit slots and a few poker machines! I remember when we get there the first question was "which machine was played and didn't give"!?


Well, I agree that slots are pure luck, but I think that playing with a fixed bet will take you nowhere! For playing slots we need to change bets all the time, to play with lower and if we don't win anything to rise a bit... when you win big to lower bets if possible... it's not a strategy, it's more for staying in the game and possibly win something more!

Personally I don't believe in strategy ! some people work at the casino explained to me like this "play small bets first 30 rounds so machine made hot then increase your bet and play again ,you will win big when the machine is hot" unfortunately not work for me ! ^{how an a machine gets hot and crashes when there is a cooling system} its all about luck

Maybe it's not too hot? lol

So you believe what they were saying? Well, you learned your lesson and I agree that slot machine is just all about luck. Maybe those who wins are just too lucky or shall I say they were blessed by that machine. Strategy only works on a game where you can use your skills and not on a machine where guided by a computer chip. That's why the house is always winning in this kind of game since it was designed that way.

Casino slot machines as well as other casino games are built in a way that you think you have control over the result due to gamification, however neither you or fair casino has control over it. It's based on RNG (random number generator), it does not care what kind of strategy you apply. Every casino game has an average RTP 96%, in that case your best strategy is to choose the highest RTP slot machines (some casinos display RTP) and always play the money you afford to lose, never look at it as an opportunity for profit.

Physical slots machines are a world apart from online gambling slots games. There was the common belief each of those physical machines would start rewarding gamblers from a determined hour of the day on. Loyal customers of casinos usually observed the routine of each machine for several days and concluded some were good to play in the morning, others in the afternoon and others in the evening, believing the machines were manipulated by the house operators to work that way. However, we can't say if that really happened or still happens in land based casinos. For me it is still more like an urban myth, but who knows... Provably fair system wasn't implemented anyway.

For those who really want to do that and in the real world, they can, although I have some doubts about the level of success. but for those that are online, this kind of thing is very impossible to do because there is no standard to observe things like this.
besides that even if this does happen for real slots but of course if the rules are as you say, isn't that too easy to understand.
it could mean when we already know then we just need to wait for time to get a lot of profit.
Surely the gamblers would all be rich if this really happened

All gamblers cannot be rich. The gambling market is a zero-sum market and for someone to win someone must lose those funds. In addition, the percentage of winnings that gives the slot machine is not so great to get rich on it. We tested this strategy personally and made sure that it increases the chances of winning.

You have told the truth, yes I agree on that opinion.
Getting rich in gambling doesn't seem impossible, but getting rich with slots seems very unlikely because I believe the jackpot odds with small bets are very difficult. I tried hundreds to thousands of times bet max on demo mode slot games but I've never really managed to win over $25K in scatters, so it's an entertainment-based game that's quite different from real poker.

Aside on this  one there are YT vids which do explain off about strategy of winning slots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvX6HgWuA90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=issJG869qe8

Dont know n why they do really believe that strategy do exist until they do realize when reality slap them into
their faces.

I thought there was no strategy for  Slot Machine, I searched on google and the only thing I found was that the person needs several machines, but apart from that there is nothing special, in other words, there is no strategy for people to win a lot in Slot Machine, the  Slot Machine are games of luck, I don't like games that depend on luck to win

Yes, it is but some gamblers can be rich by using many strategies that have already been tested by themselves from time to time. Not sure about how much they lose, but they can win that money someday. Those gamblers who intend to win will always research the strategy, but the other gamblers will not think it will be possible to win. If you just want to have fun with Slot Machine, you should enjoy the game and let the luck comes you so you do not have to confuse searching the strategies.

I agree with you. Because it is a luck-based game, there is no way to find out a certain strategy to win. His friend may be lucky to use that strategy at that moment, but cannot be applied at another time, moreover for an online slot. Slot Machine isn't created to play with a certain strategy, all players only need to rely on their luck here. 

It is not a strategy to win but a strategy to limit the chance of big losses.
Limiting funds doesn't increase the chance to win. It is only a preventive way to not overplaying.  ;)

I don't know for sure about slots or dice, but with a roulette it was shown that better to go all-in just with one bet rather than betting with a small amount of money. Because in honest roulette you will lose anyway, but with small amounts it can take like few thousands years in some cases. So if you've came for money, it's better to test your luck with one bet and go home  ;D

^ Definitely right that is not a strategy, probably there is no strategy but I have a tactic on how to have profit, just keep bet folded the amount on your previous bet, and when you win at least once then quit. I think that is a martingale strategy right?
But it ends up depending on your luck, if your luck was not there, just leave and never gamble because this is not mean to you and you should find another game that is suitable for your skills.

Lol, i can't agree with that. His strategy is really good way to go with all of this.

Let me quote myself:

Martingale is the worst way to play slots/dice i think. This will work only if you have endless recourses and eternity to play (work on a very very long runs)

Gamblers are played for a long-time because their bankroll can afford it. It does not because they are purely lucky on that slots. Maybe mid-game, they are winning but since they are expecting again another win, they stick on that casino game hoping for another win.

Unfortunately, whether online or physical, there's no strategy to win. Just hope that luck will come to us during our gambling time and try forcing us to quit to bag some profits. There are other days to try out again our luck.

If you have a good bankroll and you are willing to lose it everything then better if you are going to go for a max bet so that you have a good chance to win big as well. At least that's what I do before and that's what I see on those high rollers before in a traditional base casinos. "Bet big to win big" kinda attitude, it's a huge risk on your part but that's how you enjoy and play the game.  ;D

Ever since I ever went to a casino, it always caught my attention to see the chairs tilted to the machine and guarded by someone or the coins on top of the chair, also someone surely told you that the machine is occupied.

Then someone also told me that there were "camels", do not ask me why they said that, but they are the people who analyze the hours that someone spends playing on a machine and they are waiting for these people to finally leave the slot machines for them to start playing, the same strategy as the previous one but they let the other people spend their money before they start spinning for hours.

I don't know if that can be called a strategy but it exists.

Perhaps there would be some strategies specific to individual games for the bonus features?

But other than that, I don't think that there is much you can do to determine the outcome.

At the end of the day you are just going to press a button to bet regardless. But if you do get into a bonus where you have to proactively make choices, there may be a possibility that you are able to maximise your chances (e.g. an inbuilt game of blackjack as a bonus feature, you might want to play basic strategy).

There's really no perfect skill to win on a slot machine. Only if you can afford to bet thousands of dollars you may increase your odds of winning some money, and that's not a guarantee. Its really about the luck of the draw. Best way to win money is be at the right time and at the right place, and run away with your winning, and don’t stay in casinos more than an hour, win or lose.

It's like beating the algorithm programmed on that slot machine. It seems effective but it needs patience. Luck still plays a role but these gamblers waiting for the right time might be thinking of another way to increase the chance of their winnings. I remember reading an article related to that under a so-called Strategy 101.

I also believe there's a catch to it but only applies to physical machines. There's no way it can be applied to online slots.

I think in physical casinos, we can observe a certain machine even it was coded. There are cases I believe in the past where others know some advantages that can be applied in a certain machine.

I don't know if that kind of setup is still present in some casinos but it's no secret there really is. Unlike in online casinos that no way we can make a way to win in the long run against the house. To increase winning chances if possible at these online casinos, try to play lower house edges or the highest RTP available.

In physical slot machine maybe there is but in online slot casino, I don't know if there is because it based on RGN which is generated from the computer.
Sometimes gamblers do this when they are in physical casino, they observe first what common combination will be possible the result and then they bet it because they know that it will repeat the result.

But in online slot machine casino, I don't know because they had run algorithm that based on a code that will generate per betting.
Strategy will not be applied on such online casino because the slot games was based on luck not more on technical thing that can you calculate the possible result.

Not really, the slot machines are programed to have a certain payout rate which is less than your buyin. So the longer you play the more likely are you to reach the expected values. The more player and slot games the closer it will get to the averages. Which doesn't mean that we can end up lucky and make a decent profit.
Looking for machines that are played heavily is a good idea as long as nobody won in a while. The more players on one slot machine increase the chances that the jackpot is cleared out. Observing the floor and keeping an eye on which machine is being played frequently and didn't win for a while, is a good strategy. But we still need go be lucky to actually win.

That seated slot machine should have not dealt with a jackpot for a long time before you take the spot. Then, there is the waiting time on how long the person will play there. It's a difficult strategy but could be worth it with patience.

Back then, there were cheating tools that was used with slots and just a week ago I saw one in social media about the story of that man. I forgot his name but it was a documentary of how he created the tools and he even bought a machine just to tinker it and find out how he can create the equipment. Investment.
As for strategy, I only have the superstitious idea to be bad luck at one position so I switch to another machine.

Martingale is a strategy to not lose money, or to break even, not to win. And it's not even for slots, it's just a general strategy really. By the end of the day, Martingale's strategy pretty much relies on luck, so is it still a strategy really? That's like saying relying on luck is a strategy in of itself, and is pretty much just hiding the fact that you're going YOLO on the game (which you are, by the way, just that the rate is different for each player/session).

Pretty much sums up what you'd expect from Martingale and luck based games in general.

There's nothing more to it than luck. I mean even if you have a lot of patience waiting for the right time to win in, your luck would be the one who will be the key to win that jackpot. Maybe it would just a coincidence if you win the jackpot in just 1 roll in the slot machine that has been played too long for a certain day. Since slot machine game won't take much of your time, meaning you'll also lose a lot of money in no time.

But if we win the jackpot in just 1 roll, that means we will be rich from that machine without using any strategy but we have luck in that game. But I think that will not happen many times because the casino will know whether that player cheats or just because of his luck winning that. If you use a strategy, that will require patients to try one by one to find the right strategy and sometimes, that will spend so much money before we can get the right one.

Well, maybe if we are “lucky” enough to find the “right” strategy then maybe we can make winning a regular thing in playing slot machine. But, I beg to differ with that, my friend, because it is still based upon one’s luck. Slot machines are luck based games, and will stay so to be just as that. Otherwise, it will be proven that some sort of strategy really works, especially during this modern era and with the existence of online slot games.

Strategies couldn't help with the slot machines. Everything is upon the luck, the machine itself operates on random choice selection. If you are able to manipulate the machine then it is possible to use some strategies. Things are highly advanced. Earlier I read in an article where a person used to win regularly. Finally it was found he used some tricks with the powerful magnet. Now those weren't possible as technology has kept everything in a well advanced way. So it is all about luck and not about strategy.

Luck influence the most, but strategy also plays its own role.

Emotion and bankroll management, there's no certainty if we are talking about the slot, no one is capable to detect
what result will be there after you trigger the button.

You'll gonna wait if the outcome favor you or you need to move forward or if it's time to call for the day.

There's no real strategy with the slot machine only people makes this because they think it might an effective thing for them. for example people. the day there's a pattern you need to play like touching 5 times the button before making a pull to win the game. It's all about the people's experience that already passes to other people because it's effective to them so they expect why not to them too. It's all about the luck of the olayer and the programmable outcome of the slot game.

That's borderline superstitious already. But just like the majority said here, slots are based on luck and there are no perfect strategy. You either are very luck and win big when you play or unlucky (most of the times) and lose all your money in just like 100 or 1000 spins.

And that is the main reason why I stay away from slots because of the risk and the chances of you to win are very slim. Much better to do sports betting in my opinion, but that's another topic.

We all know there is no strategy works flawlessly in long run, hit and run only strategy that can keep you profitable in the short term. Another option is to watch or monitor few slot machines that drained bankrolls of other gamblers and go there to chase his losses. Ofc you can lose your bankroll too...
The risks are there always no matter what kind of profitable strategy you gonna choose in both land-based and online casinos. The house always wins, so enjoy the process and don't waste your time with looking for gold gambling strategies.

Even we do say that slots aren't really that good to look at but there are still people who do really love on playing it despite of the odds of losing their money.

When it comes to strategies then this is something wont really be that possible and to those things that had been observed are just pure coincidence and there's no proof that it does really work.

People does have their own beliefs and whenever they do seem that it do works  then they would apply it most of the time.

For online slots, one of my strategies is to check the live RTP since there are slots that really go dry for quite a while I think the lowest one i've seen was around 40-50%. Another strategy is to have your own range of house edge or create your own set of criteria as certain slot games have different characteristics like high volatility, low hit rate, jackpots, etc. If you're lucky enough, you could also participate in promotions and combine those strategies(i've said this multiple times but it's still a good way to reduce the house edge).

I find it hard to believe that there is a strategy to consistently over the long term make money on slots. Some people have a reputation for being good observers and guess when they are about to hit a jackpot, although this has been called into question by several comments in the thread. I understand that it does have a certain logic as far as physical slots are concerned. For there is a limit to the number of coins they can have. As the box fills up, they have to give prizes to empty it. But I think that even if there are people who have a certain instinct for this, I don't think they tend to get it right consistently in the long run.

Yes, I also crossed my mind The strategy of a slot game with a long time and based on luck, this reason might be said to be rational in slot-based gambling.

Experience:
I've played slots with different slots, but had no luck and I tried one slot (Gems Bonanza) and I managed to win a few bucks, although not millions, but increased from my authorized capital, not bad, so there is a point in focusing on one slot, can win.

Note: don't copy my trick, maybe it's my luck, not necessarily you are as lucky as me, do it your own way.

this is the important point, they are just in the shadows hoping for wealth to uncertainty.
indeed there are some people who can be said to benefit from gambling but most of them can get rich not being a gambler but a bookie from a gambler and that's certainly not in a slot :D
Slots are just a tool to bring in money for the developers behind it because it is certain that even if someone gets up to millions of JP, of course they have thought about it and of course there will be other gamblers who will be sacrificed.

Luck is number 1 in this gambling

The element of surprise and the ambiance of the game what make people like to keep playing the game also some other try what other achieve especially when someone hit the jackpot or got a huge amount of money for playing slot but as you said if we talk strategy this is kinda impossible to say that there it is since all in that game is random maybe we won on certain times we play by using what we though the best strategy we have but for sure this will never give us long term profit especially bad luck came.

I tried different slot games and i try my own strategy and the increase when you lose strategy but it doesn't work i cant even win a double my wage on this kind of strategy i will just play if I want too if i feel this is my best day its not more ideal to make a come up strategy because its all about the luck and the faith you give to win the roll.


It hit different emotions once you hit the jackpot again its slot games its too rarely that someone will win this game, if you are playing with the online slot there's a possibly because of the headstart bonuses.

There's the RTP for slots, you might be able to exploit that as sometimes it goes dry and you might want to check out that first before playing. Yes it's mostly luck but that doesn't mean that you can't use the potential faults in the system or the system itself.

Yes, that is all about luck when you play gambling games based on luck and we can not do anything when luck does not come to us. Even if we still play with more money, that will not guarantee us to win the games. Many people already prove that but they lose their money without winning the games. However, people will still try different strategies because they still expect that someday, they can win from slot games. We can only playing gambling without expect winning from that because it will depends on our luck.

Playing the slot machine is like rolling the dice- no matter how hard you try, it all relies on pure luck.

I doubt that there are slot machines that are programmed to show a specified result after pulling its lever. I also doubt that there are any present techniques or tips on how to at least minimize the risks of losing since a person relies purely on luck in this type of gambling. Unlike poker or any card games where it involves an element of skill, slot machines are heavily based on luck that require no skill nor thought. If such skill is existing, then slot machines would be irrelevant and obsolete by now.

from my experience playing slot machines in offline casinos, the machine has a pattern, what you have to find is the pattern of the machine because you can't 100% lose or win.  i usually switch from one machine to another machine when i lose 7 times from one machine and this method has worked for me a few times.

You have to make research how RNG works and how developers applied the actual RNG during gameplay. The overall house edge will be a clear winner in terms of mathematical and statistical advantages, there is no Holy strategy that can save gamblers from the invisible hand, unfortunately. The overall loss gonna be a minimum of $4 in the case of house edge is 96% on the slot machine, the wager count will show the exact loss amount if you were able to spin the same slot for millions of times.

Unless they make the code open-source, you can't really know.


That's how you should have been doing it since the beginning. Once you understand that gambling isn't a job, everything falls into place. Gambling is a job only if you are the house. If you are playing, you are going to be the loser in the long run.

Element of surprise is there and some people do really get some thrill and entertainment and that's why they do love on playing slots despite of the odds or chances of winning.It is true that we do have different beliefs into things including on gambling just like on  what others been saying.So it do ends up on someones preference whether they do play or not according into their interest.Not all would really be that enjoying on pushing those roll buttons
but rather loves to play with those strategic kind of play or games which sparks more interest.

This is something interesting, everywhere there is some strategy being followed. Switching between machines bringing in win is nice. Slot machines are really profiting the owners, because the machines can be altered with the codes. As said learning the pattern of the respective machine will give winning, but to study the pattern won't happen in a short. There are users who have learned the casino scripts and won in the long term.

I have never played slot machines, but I am familiar with their structure and history. Tens of years ago, gamblers were actually able to find one vulnerability or another in physical slot machines, so the struggle between the services providing them and the gamblers was really intense.
But now, as far as I know, all the devices in the casino are united into one network and, in principle, there is no difference where you play - online or in offline casinos, your chances of finding some strategy (based on vulnerability) are almost zero now.

That to say that "no strategy it works well", it is probably just our luck brings us to win a few bucks but lose more. That is the undeniable thing in gambling and we can never be hopeful that this make us rich either. And at the moment that you win the jackpot price, they even ask you how it did it, and sometimes they even try to accuse you about cheating...that seems these casinos don't pay huge amounts rather than being happy collecting every gambler's money.

I agree with you if there was a strategy most casinos would fold up or scrab out slot completely from their list of games. It's just about the luck and nothing more. A strategy might work once and that could be a lucky day and the next time around it betrays your instincts. So no strategy stands the taste of time

Anyone who plays slots a little longer has their own strategies. The one you are talking about is perhaps the most popular. I have also heard many times that when someone plays for a long time, and in fact loses a lot, it is good to sit after him, because then we have a high probability that the machine is full and will give us some of what someone has lost before us.

Yes completely valid as the slot machine will have a payout ratio it must stick to, I think this is part of the law in some countries that regulate the industry.    So just on a simple take if you follow a series of losses the machine is now heavily in profit and is far more likely to pay out.  There should be alot written about this strategy and the various dynamics and rulesets for the machine to follow that you can rely on, like any system of probability its not certain but better odds then normal sure.
   Its so well known I can remember decades ago a Bar tender in a club I went to topped up his wages doing as much.   He was friendly to everyone making food etc. but he was pretty crafty I guess.   Not really illegal so far as I know  but obviously he is there 8 hours or more and can see directly who wins or loses and roughly how much, it gets quiet and he hops on for 5 minutes to take some cash back out the machine.  I'm sure over the course of a year he would make 4 or 5 figures this way just continually gaining the money after people had lost and had to leave to get their lift etc.

Yes, many years ago such a system worked and many people knew about it (even in this topic, many participants immediately described this algorithm), but this is hardly relevant today. Firstly, if slot machines are connected to an online network, then we cannot monitor all of them at the same time, therefore we do not know which event is more likely to happen next - a loss or a win. Secondly, if ordinary players knew about such an algorithm, then the regulators and the owners of slot machines knew about it. This means that, most likely, to complicate the work of such an algorithm, the betting distance at which the slot machine should fit into the legal interest was significantly increased.

That's why it's very difficult to win slots games or other gambling games as no 100% strategy that can successfully help a gambler to win. The strategy itself needs to develop more and that's why a gambler will still search for the right strategies. The strategy can help us but don't always depend on the strategy because the casino will always check their system and change it if they think that it needs to modify and prevent the gamblers from winning many times.

To all the people here who believe that playing after some big player have lost big amounts of money increases your chance I am sorry but this is not true.I have been working long ago on a Casino and they were having some Novomatic slot machines together with some other brands like Apex and a few others I don't remember now.The problem is that each spin is completely independent of each other and even when someone has lost big,the machine can continue to provide losing spins for another long period before it is going to give back some of that money to other players.I only saw this happened once,one big player lost 20000 USD and when the other entered after he got away he bet 0.10 USD and won 1000 USD but that happened only once and I never saw it happening again,so this happens pretty rarely at 0.01% of the cases I would say.

That makes sense and I'm sure some gamblers are already aware of that. It's just that, they need to make it right at the right time where that machine will suppose to give a win on who's sitting during that time. It's really tough but that's how playing slots machine is supposed to be.

Since no strategy in-game can be applied, others will try to beat the machine's code and algorithm instead. Of course, can only be applied on slots machines at physical casinos as no way they can do it in online casinos.

I never play slots in traditional casinos because in my country gambling is illegal so casinos are almost non existent here

but I've heard from a friend of mine who currently lives in Cambodia that offline slot machines in traditional casinos can be manipulated easily, but not everyone can take advantage of this loophole

right now the fairest thing in my opinion is slots in online gambling, so I have no intention of playing slot in offline casinos

I just accept the fact that there is no strategy when it comes to this game, which is based on luck. Don't know why people still insist on finding the best strategy where you can only get a headache if you are trying to make some sense with this game. Because there's really no mathematical formula on this. Just enjoy your game and don't think too hard.

A few or a dozen years ago, there were still possibilities to manipulate offline slot machines. People forged tokens or used magnets to slow down the inner drums. At the moment all slot machines are electronic, so there really isn't much difference between online and offline slot machines. Except for the room you are in while you play.

Why people cant just accept the reality? They do really love to attach on things which they presume that it would work but they would find out that
its not relevant on the time that they had lost big on following those things.

Slot games are purely based on luck and there's no way you could able to influence your winning rate on something other peoples saying when
it comes to strategies.

Play for entertainment and enjoyment and never ever stress yourself on playing just for longing on hitting those combinations.

They know that but they just want to increase their winning chance. Actually, it's ok that gamblers are behaving like that instead of doing random luck-attracting methods. They don't want to just rely on luck but like others are saying, we can't beat an online casino but maybe there's a catch in public casinos.

Slot machines aren't made to give profit easily but when it comes, a good amount can be earned. It opens up an idea to others that there's might be a work how to win at those. We should just let them do what they want.

That should be the main reason but others want to cheat on something not real. Gamblers always find a way to win as it will give them good winnings in return. Good luck finding a strategy to beat a slot machine as that will be a hard challenge. If only these people will play for entertainment, their gambling will be stress-free and no room for any inconvenience.

Gamblers, especially those that treat gambling as a source of income, won't stop forming strategies that might help them play luck-based games like slots, dice, roulettes, or any games that need pure luck. There are even professional ones doing that but I don't know if they were able to keep up in the long run.

For us average gamblers, we cannot just easily say to them that just enjoy it because we are not die-hard gamblers like them. If they think there are strategies to win against luck-based games, we should just allow them to do it.

Theres some near PHD level mathematical analysis of the various slot machine strategy I saw discussed under payout percentage on wiki via confirmed results and recognizing that it does have a series of cycles to wins and losses, both micro and macro eventually allowing for the very largest payout but only once every two hundred thousand plays I think it was listed at.   This is just one game on one machine and in the modern era there is an infinite supply of varying combinations, to narrow it down at all like used to be possible in the level pulling days is increasingly remote.   Just play what you like is best imo, if you win be happy and remember what worked then bet higher if you got more confidence but never forget its just a game :)

Yeah, but an average player can only have like 1000-10000 spins and we all get busted.

So 200,000 spins mathematically is not possible for us ordinary gamblers unless you play minimum but then again you will not win big and still losses in the end.

And it just shows that there are no strategy here. So as you have said, just enjoy the game, specially if you hit those 2 bonus characters or what we call 'near misses".

I agree, but I think there are still people finding ways to make a strategy here. Usually their strategy is about probabilities, and most of them are mathematicians, which I find amazing. They are really working hard to make their own strategy. We ca understand them and we are saying that they are just wasting their time since slots are purely luck, but they still continue. We may not understand them, but we should also respect them because it is their choice. But as for me, it is really pure luck and I don't have a strategy.

This is what exactly we need to conclude at the end of the day for each and every gambling type. There cannot be any strategy could exist to beat the house; even if anything is possible then it will be fixed in next upgrade of algorithms. This is how gambling industry do work and survive. Gamblers who understand this "universal truth", never waste their time and efforts on finding a strategy for any gambling.

No, people who are not experts in science and maths may not try to manipulate their luck factor but people who are aware of how probability theory works may try to make it work in favour of them in order to beat the house. So, nothing amazing here; people who are good at permutation and combination and all other related calculations may keep trying with different gambling strategies. I am not surprised to be honest.

Maybe those people still have the curiosity to know how good their chance to win is to try it for more.
But slots games tempt many gamblers to keep coming back to them and playing longer as they want to test their luck by spending their money.
If they can realize that the luck needs the right time to come, they should not play too long because that can impact their funds.
Those people rely on their luck to win, but luck will not always come to them.

Can it be difficult because without motivation the meaning of the game disappears? What is the interest to press the button (or pull the handle) of the slot machine for hours if you do not hope for something positive (winning)? In most slot machines, the gameplay is dull and monotonous, if you do not think about winning, you can find many other more interesting entertaining games.

What motivation? Maybe if you want to win on that game, that can be your motivation and I am sure you will use more money to win but I do not think you can easily win that game since the slot needs luck. I prefer to play for entertainment and enjoyment and never try to chase the winning because that will not be possible for me to win much money from the slot. Well, maybe I can win but not much money. Some casinos have a feature for a gambler to set how many rolls the gambler can use and after pressing the button, the game will roll until it reaches the target.

At first I did not get the question. How can playing slots have a strategy? Isnt slot machine have a winning ratio set by a casino? It has to be over some number, and in US every state has its own minimum return-to-player. And it is always a random win. You cant play 90 games and be sure that 91 game will be a 100% win. You can lose 100 times in a row, or you can get several big wins in a row. It is always a random. So I think thinking of a strategy in slots is stupid.

Sorry, there is a strategy - hit "bet" until you only have money for the taxi to get home. That strategy always work.

Of course, the casino always has an advantage over the player, but even in the slots there is a chance to crash the jackpot, so many players during a pleasant pastime for any game in the slots try their luck trying different well-known strategies, such as Pyramid, Parlay and others. I think that here it is important to understand that none of the strategies can not guarantee a win and play gambling need only for fun.

If slots were money eater totally then no one would be interested on playing it on the first place.It is just it do really need up lots of lossers for a 1 big winner and this is where  interest and entertainment do comes specially if people around do able to look those jackpot winners which it cant really be avoided to have some boost up of
feeling which it do  really raises up good impressions and interest towards slot games which it isnt surprising.Speaking of strategy then theres none
i could definitely say.

If someone wants a better chance to go home with winnings, better go to sportsbetting or play poker. But that is, if you know very well at least one sports or you know how to play poker. Because these games have higher chance of winning if you have the knowledge on this. But with slots, don't expect that you can win after many tries because that's not an assurance that you get winnings. It is luck-based, so can you calculate your luck? Nope.

Motivation could really have two possible effects on someones mindset and actions and it will vary on how someone would be handling up themselves
and made out wise decisions.

I do agree on the sense that there some sort of motivation to make it look interesting and entertaining once you do make
some activity.
Interest will vary on each person and actions will vary on your intent.

What in the fuck are you talking about? It’s a simple question with some fare narratives, nor did I say there were any strategies, I was asking, hence the entire purpose of this thread  :D.  If you think that blackjack is the only strategy based casino game then you clearly have very little clue about gambling at all. Of course luck is always involved in any gambling, that’s part of the whole point.

If they can be wise, they will know that gambling is not for making money but only for enjoyment and having fun and they will not use more money because they don't chase the win money. But if they can not control themselves and not be wise in gambling, they will forget about that and still use more money to gamble. It depends on how we can use the motivations and I am sure that we know what we should do. Maybe our motivation in gambling is to search for an activity that can help us release our stress and have fun by playing the game. That will help us to enjoy the game.

Well OP clearly asking "If there Is" meaning he really has no Idea at all and this is a general question if someone has Hidden strategy that they cans hare for all
Though i doubt that there is a accurate strategy at all.
because Slot Machine betting is the luck based game that never that i encounter to have great strategy at all.

So yes There is No strategy that can assure wins but at least the best one is to Limit your capital and limit your desired win so frustration will not come
across and you will just Play with Fun and not totally for wins.

There's no strategy for winning all the time, but there should be some plan, some strategy, what you are going to do with your bankroll, what games you will play and how will you play them! I guess it's pure luck if someone opens a random game and plays all in the first bet! But if someone knows at least something about bankroll management and games you play then you can create some strategy that can give you higher chances of winning! Even the simplest strategy is some kind of strategy, and that can make a big difference from making random bets on random payouts and hoping for the best!

I don't really play slots that often, especially in physical casinos since the RTP percentages there are lower compared to those you can find on online platforms. I have heard gamblers say the same thing that you mentioned in your OP. That it's a good idea to wait for a slot machine to "swallow" a lot of money until it's ready to spit something out. But in reality, it's all random. If you are lucky enough, you can win the jackpot on your first spin or spend your whole life playing and never win anything.

Statistically, you should always go for the slots with the highest RTPs because those will spit out more money to players long-term. But have you ever seen a gambler in a physical casino ask the staff how high the RTP is? I haven't and they don't really care.  

The only strategy I know is that since if we plan our bank roll and set something limits towards our capital then provably we can avoid losing any huge amount which can make us stress or fell want to revenge at the game. And any other strategy what been introduce is just a pure flowering words since we cannot really say it will work at real time since most of all we are dealing on pure luck on that kind of game.

Conclusion - there is not strategy to win in slots. Just a holy random. The more you play, the more you test your fortune.

When I was a kid, I've testes the strategy OP mention - "continue playing slots that were used by other player for a long period". Never had a great success. There were rumors, that Columbus slots more often "give" rewards. You just have to get "ships" which gives free rolls and you will win a lot. These rumors were not confirmed lots of times :D

Exactly thank you, I am not sure what else I have to say here that this was simply just a question.  I don't know how that was very hard to understand.  I really didn't think there was any kind of strategy but I was genuinely curious if there were any sort of strategies at all that maybe mathematically made since by a sheer numbers standpoint.. but I of course have always realized that it's really just random ( unless they are rigged which is a whole other story ).  Locking this topic.