Slot Machine Strategy?

[dbc23]

I find it hard to believe that there is a strategy to consistently over the long term make money on slots. Some people have a reputation for being good observers and guess when they are about to hit a jackpot, although this has been called into question by several comments in the thread. I understand that it does have a certain logic as far as physical slots are concerned. For there is a limit to the number of coins they can have. As the box fills up, they have to give prizes to empty it. But I think that even if there are people who have a certain instinct for this, I don't think they tend to get it right consistently in the long run.

I agree with you if there was a strategy most casinos would fold up or scrab out slot completely from their list of games. It's just about the luck and nothing more. A strategy might work once and that could be a lucky day and the next time around it betrays your instincts. So no strategy stands the taste of time

[Fritwakky]

One of my best friends and I would travel to the local casino some years back from time to time.  Wasn't a very fun casino but it was about as good as we could get for those times as gambling was very restricted back then.  He was a big fan of playing slots and always seemed to have some sort of strategy.  He would look for players who were sitting at a machine for a long period of time and then play them.  There were a couple other things he did that he called "strategy" but I can't remember what they were.

My question for you guys, is there any strategy you know of for slot machines ? I think this more so applies to in person casinos but maybe online as well.

Does waiting to get on a machine that gets heavily played a legit strategy?  Does it make more sense to play different types of machines or play one machines for a long period of time? Etc etc..

Anyone who plays slots a little longer has their own strategies. The one you are talking about is perhaps the most popular. I have also heard many times that when someone plays for a long time, and in fact loses a lot, it is good to sit after him, because then we have a high probability that the machine is full and will give us some of what someone has lost before us.

[STT]

Yes completely valid as the slot machine will have a payout ratio it must stick to, I think this is part of the law in some countries that regulate the industry.    So just on a simple take if you follow a series of losses the machine is now heavily in profit and is far more likely to pay out.  There should be alot written about this strategy and the various dynamics and rulesets for the machine to follow that you can rely on, like any system of probability its not certain but better odds then normal sure.
   Its so well known I can remember decades ago a Bar tender in a club I went to topped up his wages doing as much.   He was friendly to everyone making food etc. but he was pretty crafty I guess.   Not really illegal so far as I know  but obviously he is there 8 hours or more and can see directly who wins or loses and roughly how much, it gets quiet and he hops on for 5 minutes to take some cash back out the machine.  I'm sure over the course of a year he would make 4 or 5 figures this way just continually gaining the money after people had lost and had to leave to get their lift etc.

The minimum theoretical payout percentage varies among jurisdictions and is typically established by law or regulation. For example, the minimum payout in Nevada is 75%, in New Jersey 83%, and in Mississippi 80%.

[Boristhecat]

Yes completely valid as the slot machine will have a payout ratio it must stick to, I think this is part of the law in some countries that regulate the industry.    So just on a simple take if you follow a series of losses the machine is now heavily in profit and is far more likely to pay out.  There should be alot written about this strategy and the various dynamics and rulesets for the machine to follow that you can rely on, like any system of probability its not certain but better odds then normal sure.
   Its so well known I can remember decades ago a Bar tender in a club I went to topped up his wages doing as much.   He was friendly to everyone making food etc. but he was pretty crafty I guess.   Not really illegal so far as I know  but obviously he is there 8 hours or more and can see directly who wins or loses and roughly how much, it gets quiet and he hops on for 5 minutes to take some cash back out the machine.  I'm sure over the course of a year he would make 4 or 5 figures this way just continually gaining the money after people had lost and had to leave to get their lift etc.

The minimum theoretical payout percentage varies among jurisdictions and is typically established by law or regulation. For example, the minimum payout in Nevada is 75%, in New Jersey 83%, and in Mississippi 80%.

Yes, many years ago such a system worked and many people knew about it (even in this topic, many participants immediately described this algorithm), but this is hardly relevant today. Firstly, if slot machines are connected to an online network, then we cannot monitor all of them at the same time, therefore we do not know which event is more likely to happen next - a loss or a win. Secondly, if ordinary players knew about such an algorithm, then the regulators and the owners of slot machines knew about it. This means that, most likely, to complicate the work of such an algorithm, the betting distance at which the slot machine should fit into the legal interest was significantly increased.

[pieppiep]

I find it hard to believe that there is a strategy to consistently over the long term make money on slots. Some people have a reputation for being good observers and guess when they are about to hit a jackpot, although this has been called into question by several comments in the thread. I understand that it does have a certain logic as far as physical slots are concerned. For there is a limit to the number of coins they can have. As the box fills up, they have to give prizes to empty it. But I think that even if there are people who have a certain instinct for this, I don't think they tend to get it right consistently in the long run.

I agree with you if there was a strategy most casinos would fold up or scrab out slot completely from their list of games. It's just about the luck and nothing more. A strategy might work once and that could be a lucky day and the next time around it betrays your instincts. So no strategy stands the taste of time

That's why it's very difficult to win slots games or other gambling games as no 100% strategy that can successfully help a gambler to win. The strategy itself needs to develop more and that's why a gambler will still search for the right strategies. The strategy can help us but don't always depend on the strategy because the casino will always check their system and change it if they think that it needs to modify and prevent the gamblers from winning many times.

[swogerino]

To all the people here who believe that playing after some big player have lost big amounts of money increases your chance I am sorry but this is not true.I have been working long ago on a Casino and they were having some Novomatic slot machines together with some other brands like Apex and a few others I don't remember now.The problem is that each spin is completely independent of each other and even when someone has lost big,the machine can continue to provide losing spins for another long period before it is going to give back some of that money to other players.I only saw this happened once,one big player lost 20000 USD and when the other entered after he got away he bet 0.10 USD and won 1000 USD but that happened only once and I never saw it happening again,so this happens pretty rarely at 0.01% of the cases I would say.

[harizen]

The problem is that each spin is completely independent of each other and even when someone has lost big,the machine can continue to provide losing spins for another long period before it is going to give back some of that money to other players.I only saw this happened once,one big player lost 20000 USD and when the other entered after he got away he bet 0.10 USD and won 1000 USD but that happened only once and I never saw it happening again,so this happens pretty rarely at 0.01% of the cases I would say.

That makes sense and I'm sure some gamblers are already aware of that. It's just that, they need to make it right at the right time where that machine will suppose to give a win on who's sitting during that time. It's really tough but that's how playing slots machine is supposed to be.

Since no strategy in-game can be applied, others will try to beat the machine's code and algorithm instead. Of course, can only be applied on slots machines at physical casinos as no way they can do it in online casinos.

[Tumanggor]

I never play slots in traditional casinos because in my country gambling is illegal so casinos are almost non existent here

but I've heard from a friend of mine who currently lives in Cambodia that offline slot machines in traditional casinos can be manipulated easily, but not everyone can take advantage of this loophole

right now the fairest thing in my opinion is slots in online gambling, so I have no intention of playing slot in offline casinos

[24Kt]

The problem is that each spin is completely independent of each other and even when someone has lost big,the machine can continue to provide losing spins for another long period before it is going to give back some of that money to other players.I only saw this happened once,one big player lost 20000 USD and when the other entered after he got away he bet 0.10 USD and won 1000 USD but that happened only once and I never saw it happening again,so this happens pretty rarely at 0.01% of the cases I would say.

That makes sense and I'm sure some gamblers are already aware of that. It's just that, they need to make it right at the right time where that machine will suppose to give a win on who's sitting during that time. It's really tough but that's how playing slots machine is supposed to be.

Since no strategy in-game can be applied, others will try to beat the machine's code and algorithm instead. Of course, can only be applied on slots machines at physical casinos as no way they can do it in online casinos.

I just accept the fact that there is no strategy when it comes to this game, which is based on luck. Don't know why people still insist on finding the best strategy where you can only get a headache if you are trying to make some sense with this game. Because there's really no mathematical formula on this. Just enjoy your game and don't think too hard.

[Fritwakky]

I never play slots in traditional casinos because in my country gambling is illegal so casinos are almost non existent here

but I've heard from a friend of mine who currently lives in Cambodia that offline slot machines in traditional casinos can be manipulated easily, but not everyone can take advantage of this loophole

right now the fairest thing in my opinion is slots in online gambling, so I have no intention of playing slot in offline casinos

A few or a dozen years ago, there were still possibilities to manipulate offline slot machines. People forged tokens or used magnets to slow down the inner drums. At the moment all slot machines are electronic, so there really isn't much difference between online and offline slot machines. Except for the room you are in while you play.

[dunfida]

The problem is that each spin is completely independent of each other and even when someone has lost big,the machine can continue to provide losing spins for another long period before it is going to give back some of that money to other players.I only saw this happened once,one big player lost 20000 USD and when the other entered after he got away he bet 0.10 USD and won 1000 USD but that happened only once and I never saw it happening again,so this happens pretty rarely at 0.01% of the cases I would say.

That makes sense and I'm sure some gamblers are already aware of that. It's just that, they need to make it right at the right time where that machine will suppose to give a win on who's sitting during that time. It's really tough but that's how playing slots machine is supposed to be.

Since no strategy in-game can be applied, others will try to beat the machine's code and algorithm instead. Of course, can only be applied on slots machines at physical casinos as no way they can do it in online casinos.

I just accept the fact that there is no strategy when it comes to this game, which is based on luck. Don't know why people still insist on finding the best strategy where you can only get a headache if you are trying to make some sense with this game. Because there's really no mathematical formula on this. Just enjoy your game and don't think too hard.

Why people cant just accept the reality? They do really love to attach on things which they presume that it would work but they would find out that
its not relevant on the time that they had lost big on following those things.

Slot games are purely based on luck and there's no way you could able to influence your winning rate on something other peoples saying when
it comes to strategies.

Play for entertainment and enjoyment and never ever stress yourself on playing just for longing on hitting those combinations.

[goinmerry]

Why people cant just accept the reality? They do really love to attach on things which they presume that it would work but they would find out that
its not relevant on the time that they had lost big on following those things.

They know that but they just want to increase their winning chance. Actually, it's ok that gamblers are behaving like that instead of doing random luck-attracting methods. They don't want to just rely on luck but like others are saying, we can't beat an online casino but maybe there's a catch in public casinos.

Slot machines aren't made to give profit easily but when it comes, a good amount can be earned. It opens up an idea to others that there's might be a work how to win at those. We should just let them do what they want.

[agustina2]

Play for entertainment and enjoyment and never ever stress yourself on playing just for longing on hitting those combinations.

That should be the main reason but others want to cheat on something not real. Gamblers always find a way to win as it will give them good winnings in return. Good luck finding a strategy to beat a slot machine as that will be a hard challenge. If only these people will play for entertainment, their gambling will be stress-free and no room for any inconvenience.

Gamblers, especially those that treat gambling as a source of income, won't stop forming strategies that might help them play luck-based games like slots, dice, roulettes, or any games that need pure luck. There are even professional ones doing that but I don't know if they were able to keep up in the long run.

For us average gamblers, we cannot just easily say to them that just enjoy it because we are not die-hard gamblers like them. If they think there are strategies to win against luck-based games, we should just allow them to do it.

[STT]

Theres some near PHD level mathematical analysis of the various slot machine strategy I saw discussed under payout percentage on wiki via confirmed results and recognizing that it does have a series of cycles to wins and losses, both micro and macro eventually allowing for the very largest payout but only once every two hundred thousand plays I think it was listed at.   This is just one game on one machine and in the modern era there is an infinite supply of varying combinations, to narrow it down at all like used to be possible in the level pulling days is increasingly remote.   Just play what you like is best imo, if you win be happy and remember what worked then bet higher if you got more confidence but never forget its just a game

[TravelMug]

Theres some near PHD level mathematical analysis of the various slot machine strategy I saw discussed under payout percentage on wiki via confirmed results and recognizing that it does have a series of cycles to wins and losses, both micro and macro eventually allowing for the very largest payout but only once every two hundred thousand plays I think it was listed at.   This is just one game on one machine and in the modern era there is an infinite supply of varying combinations, to narrow it down at all like used to be possible in the level pulling days is increasingly remote.   Just play what you like is best imo, if you win be happy and remember what worked then bet higher if you got more confidence but never forget its just a game

Yeah, but an average player can only have like 1000-10000 spins and we all get busted.

So 200,000 spins mathematically is not possible for us ordinary gamblers unless you play minimum but then again you will not win big and still losses in the end.

And it just shows that there are no strategy here. So as you have said, just enjoy the game, specially if you hit those 2 bonus characters or what we call 'near misses".

[xSkylarx]

The problem is that each spin is completely independent of each other and even when someone has lost big,the machine can continue to provide losing spins for another long period before it is going to give back some of that money to other players.I only saw this happened once,one big player lost 20000 USD and when the other entered after he got away he bet 0.10 USD and won 1000 USD but that happened only once and I never saw it happening again,so this happens pretty rarely at 0.01% of the cases I would say.

That makes sense and I'm sure some gamblers are already aware of that. It's just that, they need to make it right at the right time where that machine will suppose to give a win on who's sitting during that time. It's really tough but that's how playing slots machine is supposed to be.

Since no strategy in-game can be applied, others will try to beat the machine's code and algorithm instead. Of course, can only be applied on slots machines at physical casinos as no way they can do it in online casinos.

I just accept the fact that there is no strategy when it comes to this game, which is based on luck. Don't know why people still insist on finding the best strategy where you can only get a headache if you are trying to make some sense with this game. Because there's really no mathematical formula on this. Just enjoy your game and don't think too hard.

I agree, but I think there are still people finding ways to make a strategy here. Usually their strategy is about probabilities, and most of them are mathematicians, which I find amazing. They are really working hard to make their own strategy. We ca understand them and we are saying that they are just wasting their time since slots are purely luck, but they still continue. We may not understand them, but we should also respect them because it is their choice. But as for me, it is really pure luck and I don't have a strategy.

[darewaller]

it just shows that there are no strategy here. So as you have said, just enjoy the game, specially if you hit those 2 bonus characters or what we call 'near misses".

This is what exactly we need to conclude at the end of the day for each and every gambling type. There cannot be any strategy could exist to beat the house; even if anything is possible then it will be fixed in next upgrade of algorithms. This is how gambling industry do work and survive. Gamblers who understand this "universal truth", never waste their time and efforts on finding a strategy for any gambling.

I think there are still people finding ways to make a strategy here. Usually their strategy is about probabilities, and most of them are mathematicians, which I find amazing.

No, people who are not experts in science and maths may not try to manipulate their luck factor but people who are aware of how probability theory works may try to make it work in favour of them in order to beat the house. So, nothing amazing here; people who are good at permutation and combination and all other related calculations may keep trying with different gambling strategies. I am not surprised to be honest.

[traderethereum]

Why people cant just accept the reality? They do really love to attach on things which they presume that it would work but they would find out that
its not relevant on the time that they had lost big on following those things.

They know that but they just want to increase their winning chance. Actually, it's ok that gamblers are behaving like that instead of doing random luck-attracting methods. They don't want to just rely on luck but like others are saying, we can't beat an online casino but maybe there's a catch in public casinos.

Slot machines aren't made to give profit easily but when it comes, a good amount can be earned. It opens up an idea to others that there's might be a work how to win at those. We should just let them do what they want.

Maybe those people still have the curiosity to know how good their chance to win is to try it for more.
But slots games tempt many gamblers to keep coming back to them and playing longer as they want to test their luck by spending their money.
If they can realize that the luck needs the right time to come, they should not play too long because that can impact their funds.
Those people rely on their luck to win, but luck will not always come to them.

[Boristhecat]

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Play for entertainment and enjoyment and never ever stress yourself on playing just for longing on hitting those combinations.

Can it be difficult because without motivation the meaning of the game disappears? What is the interest to press the button (or pull the handle) of the slot machine for hours if you do not hope for something positive (winning)? In most slot machines, the gameplay is dull and monotonous, if you do not think about winning, you can find many other more interesting entertaining games.

[pieppiep]

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Play for entertainment and enjoyment and never ever stress yourself on playing just for longing on hitting those combinations.

Can it be difficult because without motivation the meaning of the game disappears? What is the interest to press the button (or pull the handle) of the slot machine for hours if you do not hope for something positive (winning)? In most slot machines, the gameplay is dull and monotonous, if you do not think about winning, you can find many other more interesting entertaining games.

What motivation? Maybe if you want to win on that game, that can be your motivation and I am sure you will use more money to win but I do not think you can easily win that game since the slot needs luck. I prefer to play for entertainment and enjoyment and never try to chase the winning because that will not be possible for me to win much money from the slot. Well, maybe I can win but not much money. Some casinos have a feature for a gambler to set how many rolls the gambler can use and after pressing the button, the game will roll until it reaches the target.