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Title: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: SatoPrincess on December 29, 2021, 03:29:17 PM
It's the time of the year we all get to reflect on how we spent the year that's about to end. Did we do good, bad or awesome 😎
Yeah, this got me thinking about our forum, and I want to do something fun for newbies/new era members. So I want to have a competition to select and honour the new guys that are here to participate in and contribute to our community. I will need the help of more established members to select the nominees.  One of the reasons I want to do this is to encourage other newbies who are trying to make good their time here.

This thread will be for nominations, I'll accept nominations till 2nd January, 2022.  Nominations end on 2nd January 11:30pm GMT.  Voting starts immediately.  You can vote for you favourite nominees by posting their username on the thread. You have 1 vote per nominee. The votes will be counted and  the nominee with the most votes will be selected as 2021's Newbie of the Year.  The voting thread will be open for voting for a week.  

What is the prize?  I don't have the merits to replicate The Bitcointalk Urban Achievers Merit Scholarship Program (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5338649.msg57047255#msg57047255) although I'd like that. I indulge merit sources and established members with smerits to spare to please be a part of this contest. And to the nominees do not be discouraged, the recognition is more than enough and may possibly lead to earning some merits in the future  

Rules:
1. Don't nominate your own alts. Only accounts created on/after 01/01/2021 can be nominated.
2. You must be a Full Member or higher to nominate/Vote
3. Nominating yourself is not allowed.
4.  Post the username and profile link of the nominee.
5. Include a quote of one of the nominee's "meritable" posts and a short explanation why he deserves the nomination.
6. The nominee must have been a newbie on or after Jan 01, 2021.
7. Voters can vote by posting the names of their favorite nominee on the thread.
Nominees
1. n0nce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3373858) 1vote
2. nullama (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3336840) 0 vote
3.  SatoPrincess (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3380863) 1 vote
4. KingsDen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3333894)  0 votes
5. mynonce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3398421) 0 votes


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: LoyceV on December 29, 2021, 03:47:12 PM
Have you seen The future of Bitcointalk: Low Ranking Top Merit earners in the past 30 days (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185736.0)?

Based on Merit earned and post quality, n0nce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3373858) did quite good this year.

2. You must be a Full Member or higher to ~ Vote
You can't enforce this in a poll.

Quote
5. Include a quote of one of the nominee's "meritable" posts and a short explanation why he deserves the nomination.
Short explanation: his posts are useful.

Sample:
n0nce's Steel Washer Backup jig

https://i.postimg.cc/QMNkXyjh/n0nce-stamps-0.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/bJyt0DZP/n0nce-stamps-1.jpg
     Very nicely readable 6mm letters (tape holds washer in place) | Prototypes & final version. Improved letter spacing & tolerances.


https://i.postimg.cc/8JGddw9V/n0nce-stamp.gif (https://i.postimg.cc/76GBkWNb/n0nce-stamp.gif)
This is pretty much how it works

Backup pure material cost: 4€
Requirements: stamps ~20€, jig ~10€
Go big or go home! 30x10.5mm washers!
6mm tall letters

PM or comment if interested 0:) Any custom size is possible!

The idea is inspired from econoalchemist's blog post Securing a Bitcoin seed phrase in stainless-steel washers. (https://www.econoalchemist.com/post/backup) and it's very great:
  • Materials cost under 5 bucks (€, $, £, it's always the same ballpark). I paid around 3€ for 32 washers and maybe 1€ for the screw and nut.
  • No shipping cost since everyone has a hardware store nearby.
  • Anonymous since nobody knows what you use basic metal hardware for.
  • All stainless steel, quite durable, on par with commercial Bitcoin backup products.
  • Greater thickness than some commercial products

Backstory:
After reading the aforementioned blog post, I went to download the file for the jig from blockmic. It can be found in their Thingiverse (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4590734) and they wrote a very good article about it. (https://blockmit.com/guias/hazlo-tu-mismo/fabrica-tu-billetera-fria-con-arandelas/)

But: For one, I wanted to use larger washers. In fact, I think I got the largest that I could find in the first hardware store I walked into. A reason for this is that larger washers are usually also thicker and thus more durable, and the other reason is simply because the stamps I already had were too large for such small washers.

I have 6mm high letters and the stamps are 9x9mm in size.

So I did the natural thing: create a new 3D design from scratch, which is completely parametrized. This allows me to adapt it for anyone with different sized washers and / or stamps! :) 0:) Then did a few iterations, as shown here, and now it's ready to rock!

It's really the most pleasent stamping experience (only did plates without any jig so far), since the stamp is held in place very well, while still being able to slide and of course it's perfectly square. The inner and outer parts are also designed such that there is not much friction when assembling them, but there is no wobble when stamping. So you can actually go back and re-stamp a letter if it didn't come out perfect for example!



PSA: I can achieve much better print quality than what you see in the images, but I am finishing up some old rolls which have taken a lot of humidity so the results don't look as good. Also, I used more perimeters than CryptoCloaks (https://static.wixstatic.com/media/e65a7a_75c101c71dfa4391a2da5814082e0a25~mv2.jpg) since it makes things more sturdy. Finally, the darker colour you use, the more print lines show (especially when photographed) ;D


An idea to achieve tamper evidence and protection (though we had the discussion if it's even a good idea or not): weld on the nut.
Protection: Not everyone just has an angle grinder.
Evidence: Someone would need to weld it back on which is visible, or redo the backup identically, thus needing a welder AND a 3D printer and all the same supplies that you used. Otherwise the letter size would be different for example.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: SatoPrincess on December 29, 2021, 03:57:58 PM
2. You must be a Full Member or higher to ~ Vote
You can't enforce this in a poll.
What do you suggest?
Based on Merit earned and post quality, n0nce did quite good this year.
Noted.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: LoyceV on December 29, 2021, 04:08:37 PM
2. You must be a Full Member or higher to ~ Vote
You can't enforce this in a poll.
What do you suggest?
For anonymous voting: no restrictions to the poll, anyone can vote (and abuse by using alts).
For Members and up voting: ask users to post their choice publicly in the thread.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: Little Mouse on December 29, 2021, 04:40:23 PM
Though I believe, a nomination would require someone to be contributed to the forum heavily, and thus, someone with lots of helpful posts and a lot of merits must be nominated, I would still go with EZ0010 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2900073) because of his honesty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5378231.msg58801111#msg58801111). It doesn't happen every now and then what he did. He proved bitcointalk has honest members too, not only a lot of scammers. There are not a lot of his posts. I will simply quote his post where he got most of his merits.
By the way, his profile address of vanity address at least says he is somewhat knowledgeable and a genuine user.
I know how it feel to lose some Bitcoin either by human error or getting scammed as I experienced both and dont want someone to get same feelings.

Happy to see you got your money back. And many thanks to theymos


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: _BlackStar on December 29, 2021, 05:14:35 PM
My preferred user nominations: nullama  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3336840)

I think nullama  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3336840)can also be nominated for the best newbie of the year based on the history of the quality of his posts and also the number of merit he gets. Of course I don't know this man/woman, but I think he deserves a newbie lineup that deserves to be nominated.

It seems that nullama is quite concerned with the growth of bitcoin adoption, he knows what bitcoin is and he can explain to us well that bitcoin has real uses as a currency or means of payment in various countries. Here's the quote.

Elektra supermarket (https://www.elektra.com.mx/) in Mexico recently started accepting Bitcoin payments and is encouraging their clients to do so, as they offer a 20% discount when paying with it (until end of the year).

Here's the promo banner (in Spanish):

https://i.imgur.com/BlgfehR.png

Now people in Mexico are able to buy groceries, and retail in general using Bitcoin directly.

An interesting thing to consider is that the parent company, Grupo Elektra, has operations in these countries: Mexico, US, Guatemala, Honduras, Peru, Panama, and El Salvador.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupo_Elektra

That means that they already accept Bitcoin directly from at least 2 countries: Mexico, and El Salvador. Some of the other countries in that list could potentially be the next one.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: BITCOIN4X on December 29, 2021, 09:42:16 PM
May I recommend you in this thread, looks like you also deserve one of the nomination of the year based on the thread idea you created. I didn't check your post history but when you get more than 140 merit in just 3 months, I think you are one of the good posters too.

Username: SatoPrincess (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3380863)

Your phenomenal post on this years.

https://i.ibb.co/Gczb9Ts/F8591327-545-D-4-D97-A425-A158-EC34-CD19.jpg (https://ibb.co/RzRVNyh)

Yesterday, I attended a crypto seminar in my city.  I knew I had to be there to increase my knowledge about cryptocurrency. There were popular crypto traders present as speakers, there was an interactive section where we were given the opportunity to ask questions. Afterwards we had dinner with the speakers. I got the opportunity to have a close look on what it means to be a crypto trader or investor. I won $200 for being the most interactive person in the room. These are some of the points I went home with
1.Identify with a community: I am glad I have bitcointalk forum.  I would not know this things I do now without the forum. We live in an age of Google, YouTube videos and tiktok where everyone is a professional. I guarantee you the quality of information dispensed here on a daily is incredible. When you come to a community such as this. You don’t have to ask stupid questions the first thing is to carefully read through the threads. Understand the subject being discussed before asking questions. Every community has its rules, try and be conversant with those rules so you don’t get kicked out. I'm happy to be here I would not have made that $200 if I wasn't a member of this community.
2. Learning before earning: This is one point that stuck. Making money has always been the goal. It is very convenient to forget that there is a process to achieving  that goal. You have to be aware of activities happening in the crypto industry.
3. Mentorship is important: There is a old saying where I am from "if you have a father you will fly farther" that means you will fly on their wings. Mentorship is essential for you to learn crypto trading. A mentor gives you experience. I know we are in a digital era where you can learn trading courses online and read books about cryptocurrency. That alone cannot gauarantee success. Mentorship is the shortest cut to success you need to differentiate the hype from the value. You have to aware of activities in the crypto space. Know the real from the fake. This is something you learn from experience. You must learn to differentiate the value from the hype. There are lots of so called successful traders online and offline. You will be shocked to find they have nothing to offer.
4. Consistency:There are days crypto will slap you in the face. The First three letters of crypto are “CRY”...that was meant to be funny  ;D There is so much in the crypto industry defi, Nft, blockchain technology, investments, blogging. You have to choose an area to focus on and be the best in that field. Consistency is very important you can’t be a crypto investor by day and pessimist by night. Believe in yourself and what you do


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on December 30, 2021, 10:36:45 AM
Have you seen The future of Bitcointalk: Low Ranking Top Merit earners in the past 30 days (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185736.0)?

LoyceV keeps very good statistics on newbies. I think you OP should take a closer look at it. Besides the three users you mentioned, I am convinced that there are many more candidates. And they are also noteworthy as their merit rises every month. You can imagine who and how he will define himself in the future.
I would just list all the newcomers on that list and congratulate the forum with people who sincerely come here and contribute a lot of useful information.
This is a very positive trend. We hope to see more posters like these next year.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: dkbit98 on December 30, 2021, 11:15:38 AM
I noticed member n0nce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3373858) is making very good posts, and I talked with him several times related with various topics of hardware wallets and bitcoin nodes.
He registered in end of August but he is already a Full Member and he collected 680 merits so far.
Important thing is that he accomplished all that without any paid signature advertisement on his profile.

Everyone should have the opportunity to run a node.

I strongly believe that it's one of Bitcoin's core values to have as many full nodes (and preferably also miners, but that's another story :D) as possible, distributed in as many households as possible.

While cool node boxes, composed of all-new hardware with SSDs and sexy metal cases can be built for between 200€ and 300€ (or dollars!), that might still be too much for many people. Especially in countries where wages are lower, I understand that this can be an infeasibly large sum of money.
MyNode and Argon One m.2 enclosures, full setup ~250€

The good news: it can be achieved much cheaper than the above mentioned figures! In fact, it can even be free if you have old hardware lying around.
The fact of the matter is, Bitcoin Core doesn't need a whole lot of resources and a 10-year-old, decommissioned laptop or Desktop PC might have enough power to run it.

So I would like to encourage everybody that's not running a node yet, to reconsider it if price for the device itself or an SSD was the main deterring factor.

Hardware selection
Almost any kind of desktop PC, laptop, NUC-type device of the last 10 years should suffice.

Make sure you can swap the drive (they are usually dead after such a long time) and you have a working PSU for it.
Anything else - screen, keyboard, trackpad, speakers, it can all be broken. You will SSH into the machine anyway and you can connect to a HDMI screen + USB keyboard during setup.
This kind of hardware is very often given away for free if you ask around friends and family, or got cheaply (or free) on craigslist.

Recommendations
RAM: 4GB - 8GB (Even as little as 1GB can suffice! If you have more, it's better of course :) See my graph down below about sync time with 4 vs 8GB)
Drive: 500GB - 1TB (HDD is fine, but SSD will help for faster initial sync. 500 will not last long and not suffice for Lightning and Electrum server - 1TB would be advised!)
CPU: Intel Core i3 (2nd generation or up tested and working just fine) or better - dual core is advised by me

If the machine you acquired, doesn't meet those specs, you can in many cases just add more RAM or swap the hard drive.
I would stay away from Chromebooks with non-replaceable drives and RAM since they're usually too small and USB drives aren't convenient.

Price
Of course, this low price is mainly made possible by relying on free and cheap old & used stuff.
The final price will depend a lot on how many things you can find for free, but it's possible to build a node from scratch for around $50.
I personally built one of my nodes off a gifted laptop that had no charger, so the person wanted to throw it away. I just bought the PSU for ~20€ and added an existing 500GB USB HDD for the bitcoin directory. So that node cost me just 20€. Here's a setup if you really can't find anything for free.

Example setup for $58:[JUST QUICKLY CHECKED EBAY!]
Laptop without RAM and charger for $29:
https://i.postimg.cc/k5Wd87Js/image.png

4GB RAM for $10:
https://i.postimg.cc/vTghgZMH/image.png

Laptop charger for $10:
https://i.postimg.cc/T3686ZqW/image.png

500GB HDD for $9:
https://i.postimg.cc/sxCpH977/image.png

Of course, shipping adds up and I actually surpassed my $50 limit already. But I just checked eBay 'buy now' section very quickly! If you search locally, ask around, you will easily find someone who will give you an old laptop that doesn't turn on anymore (often broken charger and / or battery) or with cracked screen etc. for free.
Then you just source the charger and a new HDD for a total of $20!

If you actually have a working (but old) laptop already, with charger and everything, maybe invest the full $50 into a new SSD for better performance and longevity!

TL;DR
Get as much free and cheap used, old stuff as possible and slap it together! :D
I know it's not the 'deepest' topic that exists, but it's mainly to explain and show figuratively that running a node can be done very, very cheap and storage size is not an issue either, since HDDs are so damn cheap and can easily be swapped out.


PS
Nominating yourself for Newbie of the Year is not cool at all  ::)


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: Poker Player on December 30, 2021, 11:22:56 AM
PS
Nominating yourself for Newbie of the Year is not cool at all  ::)

She is not nominating herself, she is editing the OP noting the names people say in replies, if you see the 4 names are names that forum members have mentioned.

Going to the point, if it were on merit I would say n0nce, but I doubt if he is not someone who was on the forum before. If not, SatoPrincess.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: ShowOff on December 30, 2021, 11:39:49 AM
-snip-
Important thing is that he accomplished all that without any paid signature advertisement on his profile.
Maybe he's not interested in getting bitcoin from signature campaign because maybe he can earn more from his other businesses. In addition, reaching a certain number of posts as a condition of receiving payment is also a consideration why sometimes users like n0nce don't participate in signature campaign.

PS
Nominating yourself for Newbie of the Year is not cool at all  ::)
He was nominated by another user "BITCOIN4X", so maybe that's different from nominating himself. After all, we definitely have a number of newbie worthy of nomination if I were to review LoyceV's full list. I don't know who I deserve to be nominated other than the best poster even though it doesn't reach hundreds of merit. So I will review that list to get 1 decent user before the thread closes.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: DdmrDdmr on December 30, 2021, 12:37:07 PM
If anyone wants to go over a list of all accounts created during 2021, sorted by merits (descending), as an entry point indicator to start looking through profiles, the data is available here:

https://public.tableau.com/shared/XT27NJPMK?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

Data is as of last Friday, and I’ve pre-filtered the list to those non-banned with 50 merits and above. If you click on a name, a popup screen should appear, with the option to go to the User Profile on Bitcointalk.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: noormcs5 on December 30, 2021, 01:45:39 PM
Though I believe, a nomination would require someone to be contributed to the forum heavily, and thus, someone with lots of helpful posts and a lot of merits must be nominated, I would still go with EZ0010 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2900073) because of his honesty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5378231.msg58801111#msg58801111). It doesn't happen every now and then what he did. He proved bitcointalk has honest members too, not only a lot of scammers. There are not a lot of his posts. I will simply quote his post where he got most of his merits.
By the way, his profile address of vanity address at least says he is somewhat knowledgeable and a genuine user.
I know how it feel to lose some Bitcoin either by human error or getting scammed as I experienced both and dont want someone to get same feelings.

Happy to see you got your money back. And many thanks to theymos

To be very honest, i will also nominate EZ0010 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2900073) and there are two reasons for this. One is that i saw that thread where he returned the money and secondly i have no idea what other three newbies mentioned in the OP did for which they are nominated.

It will be helpful if the nominees achievements are also highlighted in the OP thread.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: LoyceV on December 30, 2021, 01:58:19 PM
i will also nominate EZ0010 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2900073)
I thought about that user, but decided not to nominate him. The good thing he did was only a week ago, and that's why several people remember him. If this nomination would have been half a year later, chances are he wouldn't be the first one to think of.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: Shamm on December 30, 2021, 02:13:15 PM
Both nominees are good they have different ways of earning merits we all know that EZ0010 earns many merits because of his honesty. And I do believe that we are all humans and we have that attitude too and we used that since we are a child and that is his choice he gives back the money.
But in this case, ill choose this user n0nce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3373858)  cause he did a lot of things here in the forum he share his knowledge with everyone here. Here's some of his threads.
Why?
As the topic title implies, I'd like to collect different ways to unlink coins that people bought through KYC on-ramps without getting into trouble later down the road.
The goal is to hold Bitcoin without losing privacy, but still complying with the law. We're not trying to evade taxes, just to improve privacy.
This is not about evading taxes while trading! The idea is just to keep your privacy while still being on the safe side in, say, 10 or 20 years time, when you'll want to cash out your holdings (or buy something with them which is usually seen as the same thing). Also governments, laws, everything, might look a whole lot different from today. So if your country doesn't collect wealth tax, thus not requiring you to inform anyone about your holdings, you won't be subjected to potential confiscation or $5 wrench method.

If you're further wondering why 'no KYC', consider giving this a read:
https://bitcoinqna.github.io/noKYConly/
Quote
Within the Bitcoin space, ‘creeping KYC’ is a disease that is slowly spreading. If you purchase through one of these regulated entities, you essentially tag your bitcoin addresses to your personal identity. This makes it trivial for chain surveillance firms, the companies they work with, or worse, governments, to potentially…
  • Track your spending habits
  • Prevent you from using other regulated services
  • Confiscate your bitcoin
  • Come after you for tax liabilities
  • Generally know more about you than they should

3 Possible Methods:
I personally like to always recommend buying through https://bisq.network/, but the reality is that many already have some amount of coin (or everything) bought from exchanges. I'm not a fan of 'having 2 stashes', as there's the risk to interconnect them through future (multi-input) transactions if you don't have separate devices / wallets.

To 'leave KYC for good', I came up with 3 options so far. As an end result, these methods all provide a wallet that has no links to your identity and contains the same amount of Bitcoin funds.

Option 1: Provably sell Bitcoin on KYC exchange again, then 'start fresh' by buying non-KYC Bitcoin and send to a new address / wallet.
+: Nobody can prove you own Bitcoin, not a company (exchange), not anyone they're selling your information to, and not anyone who goes asking like government.
-: Selling is usually (more info later) a taxable event and you will have to declare it.

For option 1, keep in mind: Also the non-KYC coin you will acquire need to be declared if your country collects wealth tax. Since they just want a fiat valuation and no public keys, you don't lose your privacy since your identity won't be linked to your addresses, unlike when owning 'KYC Bitcoin'.

Option 2: Mix the KYC Bitcoin through https://chipmixer.com/ or https://coinjoin.io/en and send to a new address / wallet.
+: No taxes to be paid, since Bitcoin is not sold.
-: The exchange will still know you hold X amount of Bitcoin and authorities can get that information very easily. You will still have your privacy since they won't know which address belongs to you, so they can't trace your purchases. In case your country collects wealth tax, you will also have to disclose your holdings anyway, but at least when disclosing non-KYC holdings, there won't be a potentially scammy exchange company also having this data and potentially selling it.

For option 2, keep in mind: Also the non-KYC coin you will own after mixing need to be declared if your country collects wealth tax. Since they just want a fiat valuation and no public keys, you don't lose your privacy since your identity won't be linked to your addresses, unlike when owning 'KYC Bitcoin'.

Option 3: Provably buy something with Bitcoin you would have bought anyway (e.g. a car) and spend the cash you would have spent on that object on new non-KYC coin.
+: If your country accepts that this is an object-object trade, there will be no taxes and your identity will own no Bitcoin afterwards (keep a receipt to prove the trade).
-: Most countries don't see a trade with Bitcoin as a trade of goods, instead treat it as a 'sell' of your Bitcoin and you need to declare the sell & pay the tax. So it doesn't really bear any benefit over option 1 in these countries.


In my eyes, Option 1 is the safest. Let's say in the future, wherever you live, laws will be passed e.g. to confiscate or heavily tax Bitcoin gains or anything of that kind, you will be able to prove that you sold the BTC and don't own any. This doesn't work in countries with wealth tax though, since you need to declare holdings value annually.
Also keep in mind, in some countries you pay less capital gains tax when hodling coins longer, like Germany. According to https://dejure.org/gesetze/EStG/23.html Bitcoin gains are tax-free as long as you held for 1+ years. So in that case I'd make sure funds didn't move for +1 year, then sell at exchange and buy again via an anonymous exchange.

Option 2 will be easier to do (less steps) and tax-free short term (since you're not selling anything), but you might get into trouble in the future in case government wants to e.g. confiscate Bitcoin holdings or something like that, since they'll be able to prove you bought amount X of Bitcoin. The information that person A owns X amount of Bitcoin may also be sold by the exchange (or 'lost' in a 'hack') and used to try to scam you or stuff like that.

The last option is more a niche thing since you'd need to live in a country where Bitcoin is widely accepted but it will allow you to prove you spent the coin (e.g. on-chain transaction including hash of the invoice) and there shouldn't be any tax issues you need to make sure your country counts this as a trade of goods and not a Bitcoin sell.

General recommendations:
1) Don't hide your Bitcoin from taxman if your country requires to show your possession at end of year.
2) Keep secret keys forever to prove you had a certain amount of Bitcoin at the time that you state you bought the coin at. Preferably also keep a paper trail up until a current-day wallet that you have, and if you mixed in between for anonymity, keep a receipt of the mixing.

It seems, it doesn't even make so much sense to go from KYC coin to non-KYC coin if just holding. If you want to hold it anonymously, you can mix them, then if you'll spend a little part of it, you'll be more anonymous. But you'll have a proof of buy time through the exchange and the mixer receipt which shows how they ended up in your current wallet.

I see no issue in buying non-KYC Bitcoin but keeping the keys where those coins arrived and maybe screenshots of the trades (e.g. of Bisq user interface). This will be needed to prove you actually bought them as early as you state you did and that you were able to afford them at that point in time.

Declaring your BTC correctly - it depends a lot on where you live (who would have guessed ;D).
Some information I gathered so far: !!!CORRECT ME IF SOMETHING'S WRONG!!!
* IT: Need to disclose your holdings end of year, but pay taxes on gains when selling a sum of over 51,000€. [1] (http://'')
* FR: You pay taxes on the gains when selling, no need to disclose holdings earlier. [2] (http://'')
* NL: You pay taxes on your holdings on 1st of January. Need to disclose your holdings end of year. [3] (http://'')
* CH: You pay taxes on holdings, gains, or none at all depending on canton. [4] (http://'')
* DE: You pay taxes on the gains when selling, if you held for <1 year. No need to disclose holdings earlier. (trading BTC for a material object or other coin is considered a 'sell', gains considered income & up to 600€ in gains from all of your appreciating assets together are tax free.) [5] (http://'')
* AT: You pay taxes on the gains when selling, if you held for <1 year. No need to disclose holdings earlier. (trading BTC for a material object or other coin is considered a 'sell', no tax-free limit)[6] (http://'')
* FI: You pay taxes on the gains when selling. No need to disclose holdings earlier. (trading BTC for a material object or other coin is considered a 'sell', no tax-free limit)[7] (http://'')
* USA: Pretty good FAQ can be found on IRS webpage [8] (https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/frequently-asked-questions-on-virtual-currency-transactions)

For all countries where I mentioned 'no need to disclose holdings earlier', I'm pretty confident it's fine to buy Bitcoin without KYC, not tell anyone, then when you'll sell or pay with the Bitcoin, you'll write down when you bought the Bitcoin and for how much fiat. If they don't trust you, you can use the private keys that you received the funds on (like Bisq private keys) to sign a message for them and prove you did buy when you say you did.

Also keep in mind I'd not recommend trading into and out of XMR over mixing, because trading is taxed in most countries, so you'll have to keep records of those trades as well, and pay taxes on them, so it's really unnecessary instead just mix them or submarine-swap them into a Lightning wallet and out of it again. Keep in mind it will not be easy to transfer full coins over LN due to usually smaller channels.

An interesting point for EU in general:
The exchange of legal tender (e.g. Euros) for bitcoins or vice versa, is exempted from VAT according to the case law of the CJEU  (see CJEU  22/10/2015, Case C-264/14, Hedqvist; UStR 2000 m.no.  759).

[1] https://www.ilsussidiario.net/news/bitcoin-come-pagare-tasse-in-italia-normativa-criptovalute-e-dichiarazione-redditi/2161267/
[2]https://cms.law/en/fra/publication/bitcoin-taxation-in-france
[3] https://blog.blockpit.io/en/crypto-taxation-regulations-netherlands
[4] https://blockpit.io/en/kryptowaehrungen-steuern/schweiz
[5] https://www.winheller.com/en/banking-finance-and-insurance-law/bitcoin-trading/bitcoin-and-tax.html
[6] https://www.bmf.gv.at/en/topics/taxation/Tax-treatment-of-crypto-assets.html
[7] https://www.vero.fi/en/detailed-guidance/guidance/48411/taxation-of-virtual-currencies3/
[8] https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/frequently-asked-questions-on-virtual-currency-transactions


Finally, 2 Disclaimers:
Mining and even frequent trading are in part handled widely differently from buying & holding, all above mainly refers to HODLers!
This is obviously no financial advice, just collecting information - if anything's wrong, let me know I'll update the info!


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: UmerIdrees on December 30, 2021, 02:25:28 PM
i will also nominate EZ0010 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2900073)
I thought about that user, but decided not to nominate him. The good thing he did was only a week ago, and that's why several people remember him. If this nomination would have been half a year later, chances are he wouldn't be the first one to think of.

You can take in this way that he did something too good which make us forget the other nice things being done by the others. He may stand out even after 6 months or year.
I think he is special because he had nothing to lose except a newbie account if he has decided not to return the money, but he chooses the act which has made him legendary.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: Little Mouse on December 30, 2021, 02:28:01 PM
i will also nominate EZ0010 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2900073)
I thought about that user, but decided not to nominate him. The good thing he did was only a week ago, and that's why several people remember him. If this nomination would have been half a year later, chances are he wouldn't be the first one to think of.
Maybe you are right but it is also right that things like this barely happen in the real world even, forgot about bitcointalk or any other online platform. So, this is something special and people usually don't forget someone like this easily.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: Coyster on December 30, 2021, 02:32:13 PM
But in this case, ill choose this user n0nce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3373858)  cause he did a lot of things here in the forum he share his knowledge with everyone here. Here's
This user has already been nominated more than once, in my opinion, there's no need to nominate a user more than once, if your favorite candidate has been nominated already, then you can either just wait till when the voting commences to vote for that very user, or go ahead and nominate another user to make things more competitive and interesting.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: NeuroticFish on December 30, 2021, 02:37:12 PM
I'll also nominate n0nce ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3373858 )
The reason is that he has quite a number of good posts in the technical area of the forum, which imho is more important than the rest.
Since an example is needed and some of the best ones are already taken, here you are:

According to the error message, I looked at the code and found this:

Code: (https://github.com/bitcoinj/bitcoinj/blob/31c7e5fbceb9884cb02d2dabc755009caa2d613e/core/src/main/java/org/bitcoinj/core/DumpedPrivateKey.java#L100)
public ECKey getKey() {
    return ECKey.fromPrivate(Arrays.copyOf(bytes, 32), isPubKeyCompressed());
}

So, you're calling getKey() just fine, but something breaks when this method calls ECKey.fromPrivate(...).
It seems to me that there's something wrong with bytes, so probably your initialization of dumpedPrivateKey is wrong. Might want to look into that a bit more.

Thanks to @larry_vw_1955, I think I got it.
that addresses corresponds to hex private key of 0x1.

We can see in the Java code that it doesn't permit private keys zero or one exactly because they're not allowed to be used:

Code: (https://github.com/bitcoinj/bitcoinj/blob/31c7e5fbceb9884cb02d2dabc755009caa2d613e/core/src/main/java/org/bitcoinj/core/ECKey.java#L193)
checkArgument(!priv.equals(BigInteger.ZERO));
checkArgument(!priv.equals(BigInteger.ONE));


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: SatoPrincess on December 30, 2021, 03:09:21 PM
But in this case, ill choose this user n0nce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3373858)  cause he did a lot of things here in the forum he share his knowledge with everyone here. Here's
This user has already been nominated more than once, in my opinion, there's no need to nominate a user more than once, if your favorite candidate has been nominated already, then you can either just wait till when the voting commences to vote for that very user, or go ahead and nominate another user to make things more competitive and interesting.
I agree with Coyster. n0nce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3373858) has been nominated already. By virtue of nominations Nonce has 4 votes. It's a good sign that the votes are coming early. But let's be patient till voting starts


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: KingsDen on December 31, 2021, 05:08:23 PM
If anyone wants to go over a list of all accounts created during 2021, sorted by merits (descending), as an entry point indicator to start looking through profiles, the data is available here:

https://public.tableau.com/shared/XT27NJPMK?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

Data is as of last Friday, and I’ve pre-filtered the list to those non-banned with 50 merits and above. If you click on a name, a popup screen should appear, with the option to go to the User Profile on Bitcointalk.

I am very glad to notice that I top the list as published by you, even when I purposely slumbered in creating topics. It's a mere list as it appears but it refreshened by newbie and member days memory that I was super hot.
My strongest competitor then who was actually leading is RainbowKun (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2852519)
Why does he not appear on the list, trust he is not banned because he is or will be a very big asset in the forum.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: DdmrDdmr on December 31, 2021, 07:24:13 PM
<…> My strongest competitor then who was actually leading is RainbowKun (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2852519)
Why does he not appear on the list, trust he is not banned because he is or will be a very big asset in the forum.
Discussable, but that is why everyone is entitled to an opinion here, and a vote on equal terms. You’re right. He's not on my Dashboard because I can’t match the exact criteria established in the OP: Whereas the Dashboard filters by accounts created during 2021, the OP implicitly allows for accounts created prior to 2021, so long as they were a Newbie/brand new on the 01/01/2021. Since the account you mention was created in 2020, the Dashboard does not list it. Same goes for @EZ0010.

Note: By that criteria, I’ll probably bring another 2020 account that was a Newbie at the beginning of 2021 as my candidate: Hispo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2850161)

Note: I’ve got to add a reference post later on. I’m already getting a walloping for being on the keyboard now … gtg.

Edit:
<…> Thank you for pointing that out. I will have to edit the OP to make it known that only accounts created on and after 01/01/2021 are acceptable. By this I will have to remove EZ0010 from the contest since he was registered in 2020.
That was the other option I considered, although I eventually presumed that the loophole for prior to 2021 accounts to be valid candidates was deliberate, to extend the event to more accounts.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: SatoPrincess on December 31, 2021, 07:34:26 PM

I am very glad to notice that I top the list as published by you, even when I purposely slumbered in creating topics. It's a mere list as it appears but it refreshened by newbie and member days memory that I was super hot.
My strongest competitor then who was actually leading is RainbowKun (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2852519)
Why does he not appear on the list, trust he is not banned because he is or will be a very big asset in the forum.
This thread is for nominations. Discussions such as this will only distract us from the purpose of this thread

 the OP implicitly allows for accounts created prior to 2021, so long as they were a Newbie/brand new on the 01/01/2021.
Note: By that criteria, I’ll probably bring another 2020 account that was a Newbie at the beginning of 2021 as my candidate: Hispo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2850161)
Thank you for pointing that out. I will have to edit the OP to make it known that only accounts created on and after 01/01/2021 are acceptable. By this I will have to remove EZ0010 from the contest since he was registered in 2020.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on January 01, 2022, 12:08:46 AM
Well deserved nominations to the nominees and special shout out to the OP for his nomination and how far he has come on the forum, keep it up. I enjoying seeing those that are interested in learning without the sophisticated knowledge in the space improve both in ranks and knowledge on the forum.

I nominate: KingsDen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3333894) for his hunger to learn. I'm attracted to those that want to learn as I tend to learn from their quest as well. Good luck to everyone.

I first knew about the Lightening Network in @Pmalek thread. I understood its concept, which is majorly to solve the problem created by PoW nature of bitcoin, which are;
1. To fasten BTC transaction processing time.
2. To curtail the transaction fee.

To continually enhance the adoption of LN, it is pertinent to make its algorithm less ambitious compared to the algorithm of the problem it tends to solve(bitcoin).
The complexity of blockchain and btc is actually a piss to many and a factor hindering its massive adoption.
I therefore urge us to be less technical in this thread in order to answer some unanswered questions, many answered and some unexpected questions(maybe worthless in the eyes of many).
Having acknowledged the works of Joseph Poon, Dryja and others for the success of LN, I also praise.
Can we please see the below questions together that may be running in the minds of most newbies in LN like myself.

1. Is Lightening Network only out to solve BTC problems? If no, are all altcoins eligible to use it, if not now maybe in the future when the need arises. Or would there be or is there solution to altcoins limitations?

2. Can the LN be used as a store of value? Which means that I can transfer some amount of btc there and leave it for a long time for saving purposes? If yes, any security risk?
3. Can a user add someones wallet address to the network without his knowledge? What I meant is that must the sender and receiver be authenticated before transaction? It would be better if there is a scenario that an organisation can pay her thousands of staff through LN without involving the staff in the network(since there might not be a time that the staff will send money to the organisation)Like, campaign managers paying users here through Lightening Network opened and closed from their end. I don't know if someone understands me.

4. Since the blockchain only records transaction at opening and closing a channel, will it be nice to have a mechanism that mirrors the transaction in the LN to the blockchain for on blockchain record keeping and security even when they are not charged transactions fees?

5. Can someone explain to me that LN is not centralization in decentralization?

6. The increase in the adoption of LN will invariably reduce the reward of the miners, Will this not amount to further increase in the on blockchain transaction fees?

7. In the off chain transaction, is it that there is a very low transaction fee or there isn't a transaction fee at all. If the former holds true, are there node operators in LN, if yes, how sufficient is their reward.

8. In the case of buying coffee.  If I have to buy coffee from 5 different stores, do I need to open and close channel 5 different times? Isn't the cost of opening and closing these channels equal transaction fee on the blockchain?

9. Is there a demo version to try out the LN without using real btc in other to get acquainted with the process.

I am sorry if most of the questions are illogical or substandard and hence piss, I promise by next year, I might not get where I want to be in crypto, but I will not be where I am today.
Perfect Peace!


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: Mamun74 on January 01, 2022, 02:29:54 AM
To be honest to say I Think when you are honest then you can a lot of merit coz Everybody supported honest person. I'm enjoying to see both are different way earning merit. EZ0010 earning a lot of Merit because his honestly. But i will choose n0nce who has been nominated Already. Wishing a very good luck to everyone.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: GeorgeJohn on January 02, 2022, 05:48:26 AM
Those nominees that's listed below are good enough to be listed, perusing through their profile, it's obviously known that they have working consciously for new development of their self and also impact a little bit knowledge to the beginner's, because earning large amount of merit within the space of some mouths is not easy as a beginner, so i appluad whosoever the name is in list.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 02, 2022, 06:48:20 AM
Sample:
n0nce's Steel Washer Backup jig
Oh wow--I know I merited him for that post, but I only skimmed through the thread, and now that you brought it back up again I think I'm going to go back and do a more close reading of it.  Ideas like that one are starting to intrigue me these days.  And yeah, I'd agree with you about n0nce's contributions.  

Those other members mentioned in the OP I'm not that familiar with except KingsDen, and frankly if we're voting for Newbie of the year, I wouldn't consider him to be a viable candidate.  Just my opinion.

I nominate: KingsDen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3333894) for his hunger to learn. I'm attracted to those that want to learn as I tend to learn from their quest as well. Good luck to everyone.
Having a strong desire to learn doesn't necessarily make a member a good candidate for NoTY, and that post of his you quoted was about 3x what it should have been based on the points he was trying to make--plus it was written in English broken just enough that it was frustrating to read.  

When I see posts like those, I immediately think "merit fisherman", whereas the post LoyceV quoted from n0nce was original and probably took a lot of time and effort to write.

This thread is for nominations. Discussions such as this will only distract us from the purpose of this thread
May I suggest that you not try to micromoderate this thread?  You did not specify in the rules that discussion of the candidates wasn't allowed, and I personally think it's entirely appropriate for the community to do so here, since this is where the voting is happening.

TL;DR: Back off.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on January 02, 2022, 07:15:21 AM
Just Your Opinion.

What we're doing here is nominations and everyone is open to nominate whoever he feels like provided the user passes the criteria of the OP. From what I understand what we're looking to award here is newbie award meaning the person must not be some professional or have perfectly written english before you consider them as perfect nominees. This is a forum and provided you can communicate to a certain level of understanding that's fine. Besides you're a newbie, you can improve over time.

At the end, It all boils down to who wins and not who got nominated, there isn't some dictatorship system here that we must agree to a certain school of thought. The pool is open for newbies from all area of the forum, from the technical aspects to the average discussion creators. We all have individual that have caught our attention this year and seen how impressively they have grown on the forum.

To make this interesting more nominations should come in not minding where the newbie is coming from, provided they meet the criteria of the OP then the best man wins.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 02, 2022, 07:54:57 AM
To make this interesting more nominations should come in not minding where the newbie is coming from, provided they meet the criteria of the OP then the best man wins.
I assume this is directed at me, since you quoted my post.  I wouldn't care at all where a member is from even if I had that knowledge, but the fact is that the posts submitted thus far have been in English and we're basically judging members on what they've posted. 

Take this snippet from KingsDen's post:

Quote
To continually enhance the adoption of LN, it is pertinent to make its algorithm less ambitious compared to the algorithm of the problem it tends to solve(bitcoin).
The complexity of blockchain and btc is actually a piss to many and a factor hindering its massive adoption.
I therefore urge us to be less technical in this thread in order to answer some unanswered questions, many answered and some unexpected questions(maybe worthless in the eyes of many).
Having acknowledged the works of Joseph Poon, Dryja and others for the success of LN, I also praise.
Can we please see the below questions together that may be running in the minds of most newbies in LN like myself.

1. Is Lightening Network only out to solve BTC problems? If no, are all altcoins eligible to use it, if not now maybe in the future when the need arises. Or would there be or is there solution to altcoins limitations?

If you can sit there and tell me with a straight face that what was written above is profound, well written, interesting, and/or is of high value then you ought to be a professional poker player.  All I'm going to say about the above snippet is that it's fluff.  And the part I bolded....what?

Yes, I merited that post.  I couldn't tell you what I was thinking, but it was probably that KingsDen had put some effort into it and therefore deserved some merit.  My opinion at this moment is that it didn't deserve as many merits as it got.

The bottom line is that if you're writing in the English language, having a good command of it (like n0nce does) can enhance the message you're trying to get across.  If you don't, it's like listening to AM radio while driving through New York City--there's a lot of static and the signal-to-noise ratio is very low.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: Charles-Tim on January 02, 2022, 09:13:01 AM
Yes, I merited that post.  I couldn't tell you what I was thinking, but it was probably that KingsDen had put some effort into it and therefore deserved some merit.  My opinion at this moment is that it didn't deserve as many merits as it got.
And likely also because KingsDen was a newbie or of low rank at the time and you notice he wanted to learn more. This could convince people to merit a newbie. You have been a good merit source ever since I noticed you on this forum. Although, I have known you from my begining here  ;D

I would have nominated EZ0010 for paying back the bitcoin sent to him when it might work away successfully. But just that his account was not registered this year but last year December. I like people like him so much.

About n0nce. He might be new on this forum but definitely not new to bitcoin or probably even this forum as well. This can be wrong but I am thinking n0nce might be a miner as his name is gotten from number only used once (nonce) which is a number miners are solving for while mining, making me to think he is not new here at all. But n0nce has been a very good poster, he is the best among them to the extent I read carefully what he is posting before I can reply to some of his posts. He finds it easy to post about hardware wallets which is the reason dkbit98 even noticed him, I always see them both as 5 and 6 as they hardly against each other in any discussion related to hardware wallets.

If I will have to choose, I will choose n0nce, not only because of that above post but because of many of his other post related to running a node, hardware wallets, privacy and security.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on January 02, 2022, 09:28:05 AM
I haven't understood how we vote anonymously, but I personally don't care this time of voting eponymously: n0nce FTW!

n0nce contributed a lot in the Dev & Tech sub-board this year and yes, he did make some useful threads such as the Private Information Retrieval (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365132.msg58156045#msg58156045) or the guide of how to run a node for less than 50 bucks (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364742.msg58135909#msg58135909), but the most important of all is that he appeared to have an awesome personality. He signed up, and instantly had a friendly behavior. He deserves to be rewarded with this nomination and hopefully to continue being so active.

Glad we had you all here in 2021.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: SatoPrincess on January 03, 2022, 02:29:02 AM
Voting has begun. For transparency the votes will be public. To vote for you favourite nominees, simply their username on the thread. You have 1 vote per nominee. The votes will be counted and  the nominee with the most votes will be selected as 2021's Newbie of the Year.  The voting will be open for a week. Thanks


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: KingsDen on January 06, 2022, 12:01:51 PM
I did not enter this space as a pro, I joined as a learner. I am still learning till now and I believe there are lots of things to learn. But one thing that I am grateful about is that, I am not whom I used to be few months ago. This forum has impacted me positively, both in knowledge and smartness.

Also, n0nce is a wonderful user of this forum. See his stat;
Posts: 672
Merits: 727

His merits are not only far higher than his activity, but also higher than his post. It is obvious he is very knowledgeable than me and every other nominees here. This fact is not debatable.

However, what I cannot welcome is that I am not fit to be nominated here. I will only not be fit if the criterion was "Nomination for Pro Newbie of the year" In my newbie time, I might not be the best, but I am sure I was a good newbie. This is evident here - KingsDen-BPIB (https://bpip.org/Profile?p=KingsDen). When you tour my merit history, @The Pharmacist and @CryptopreneurBrainboss are the two highest users that issued me merits. So, you can understand that what played out was a conflict of opinion. Both are good merit distributors and my prayer is that they should remain consistent and do better.
Thanks @CryptopreneurBrainboss and @The Pharmacist.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: skarais on January 06, 2022, 06:37:38 PM
Maybe I don't think nominating the same user on multiple occasions is something that is prohibited in the OP's rules, so n0nce should get my attention in 2021 as the leading candidate to win the title. I may agree with some of the other candidates who have nominated different users (they deserve to be on the nomination list), but n0nce is a different user where she can understand something about bitcoin technically. That is something that many other users may find difficult to learn.

Voting has begun. For transparency the votes will be public. To vote for you favourite nominees, simply their username on the thread. You have 1 vote per nominee. The votes will be counted and  the nominee with the most votes will be selected as 2021's Newbie of the Year.  The voting will be open for a week. Thanks
That means you also have to change the rules a bit in the OP.

This thread will be for nominations, I'll accept nominations till 2nd January, 2022.  Nominations end on 2nd January 11:30pm GMT.  Voting starts immediately.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: LTU_btc on January 07, 2022, 11:09:29 AM
I vote for n0nce. From all nominated 2021 newbies, his name is best known for me. Despite joining forum not long time ago, his contribution here is already very significant.
About other newbies, I haven't saw many their posts and haven't interacted with them.
EZ0010 isn't 2021 account, but what he did last year was something amazing.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: Rruchi man on January 07, 2022, 02:48:17 PM
I did not enter this space as a pro, I joined as a learner. I am still learning till now and I believe there are lots of things to learn.
Same here, Joining this forum stimulated my interest in bitcoin and cryptocurrency, can't say i know it all, but i know better than yesterday about cryptocurrency, and have also put myself in a position to guide another to knowledge.

Also, n0nce is a wonderful user of this forum.
Good Stats indeed, but my vote goes to - SatoPrincess. She deserves recognition for her effectiveness on this forum in such a short time, she may not be as knowledgeable as user "n0nce" but her vibrations as an effective member of this forum has definitely been felt.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 13, 2022, 12:30:21 AM
So where did we end up here?  I'm assuming voting ended on the 9th, right?  Tell me if I've missed something other than the lack of enthusiasm for this contest.  The thread just seems to have died off without a winner declared.

Lol.  n0nce should have taken this thing hands-down.


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: LoyceV on January 13, 2022, 09:05:21 AM
The thread just seems to have died off without a winner declared.
It kinda did. But the instructions were this:
To vote for you favourite nominees, simply their username on the thread.
I assume the word "post" is missing. Then my next assumption would be that all nominations would count as votes too.

Nominees
1. n0nce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3373858) 1vote
2. nullama (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3336840) 0 vote
3.  SatoPrincess (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3380863) 1 vote
4. KingsDen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3333894)  0 votes
5. mynonce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3398421) 0 votes
So there's a tie between n0nce with 1 vote, and the thread starter with 1 vote :D


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: NeuroticFish on January 13, 2022, 09:12:12 AM
So there's a tie between n0nce with 1 vote, and the thread starter with 1 vote :D

I think that people may have been expecting that nomination also counts as vote. At least I thought so and I stopped paying attention to this topic.
However, all this didn't get enough traction. Maybe it should have been completely different topic for nominees and actual voting, I don't know...


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: DdmrDdmr on January 13, 2022, 10:06:23 AM
A similar initiative for naming Newbie of the year for 2019 managed to obtain eight candidates (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5215097.msg53529360#msg53529360) at the time, and run nominations and votes on different threads. The nominees thread run for a month, and the voting window for a fortnight. The longer timeframes probably helped, but probably the poll format (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222643.0) was capable of getting more attention, although it is obviously riggable despite requiring being at least a Jr.Member to vote (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=606989.0).


Title: Re: BitcoinTalk Newbie of the Year 2021[Voting]
Post by: SatoPrincess on January 13, 2022, 10:09:38 AM
The thread lost attention and wasn't competitive. Only 2 votes were made even if there could be a winner it would be more interesting to see more people participate in the voting process. I watched the Bitcointalk Show on YouTube, the 2020 Bitcointalk awards was very interesting and competitive that he had be the topic of discussion in the second episode. Obviously we are waiting for the second edition of that awards maybe that's the reason many found this thread irrelevant. Icopress did a better job organizing the awards.