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Hey Guys, I am new to this forum but i had to let you know that a seller nasterxchange who sells here as well scammed me 26000 euro.

All the evidence is here  https://www.aspkin.com/forums/account-services/119895-buy-here-bitcoin-your-stealth-paypal-quick-easily-19.html

He has been kicked out of other forum as well.

they have closed down his sales thread.


I sent him 26000 euro to his bank account that he sent me and after that he said he lost access to bank drop and he can not give me crypto.

he stole my 26000 euro.

If admins can ban him from this forum then it will give me some relief and save other users on this forum from getting scammed.

I know i will not get my money back from this scammer, but a ban will be a bit relieving.

Sadly, the forum can't ban that user because you can create account anonymously here. So they won't know this person if he creates his account here. Unless, he will pull off the same scheme using his account so he can be red trusted by users here. Also, why use his services instead of reputable trading platforms like binance?

omg, you sent them 26k euro just like that, because of his thread on one forum?
In his terms, I saw that the expected waiting for funds is 24-48h ?? So, you send someone 26k and it's okay to wait for 48h for your money back? and all from an unknown person from the internet?


If he is on this forum, the maximum what you can do is to open scam accusations and ask his account to be red-tagged by DT members.
Also, you need to post clear evidence with all proofs. (Chat log where you predict that his family will have an accident and his wife will die in the next 7 days is proof of something other than fraud)

Scams are not moderated here, unfortunately.
If you attach evidence (such as payment receipts, conversations, and other supporting things), people will help you carry out investigations and (if proven to have scammed) DT members will tag the scammer to prevent others from transacting with him and give you advice that might help you get your money back.

I will quote important things that you posted in another forum, so everyone can see it here too.

Video of your conversation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgUl5XfVm5U ~source (https://www.aspkin.com/forums/account-services/119895-buy-here-bitcoin-your-stealth-paypal-quick-easily-18.html#post1181503)
You quoted (https://www.aspkin.com/forums/account-services/119895-buy-here-bitcoin-your-stealth-paypal-quick-easily-19.html#post1181712) a link to a thread on this forum where it was made by user @Naster (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2417495.0), is he the guy you're accusing?

Yes he is the guy, there is only 1 nasterxchange guy here. and he is that guy. Also you can see it is the same telegram username as well.

Here is the proof, also the admins will not ban him from their forum for no reason, its all real.   proof is here  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgUl5XfVm5U

looks like this is not the first time Nasterxchange had an issue with other people. sadly just like what the others have said scams are not moderated so there is no chance of him being banned because of it. that being said, if you have convincing evidence you can create a trust flag against him.

I'll refer you to this thread to know what it is and how to create one [GUIDE] Overview of the trust flags (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5156835.0) and to this thread Request Support (or Opposition) for Flags here! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153445.0) to ask members for support.

Wow, nice. You recorded the complete correspondence between you.
btw admin does what he can there. He locked his thread and he slowed his work as much as he could.

I am wondering, whether that money ^26k are legal? I mean, you agree with the 13% fee, even you are good if you get "only" 70% money back. at a time when we are all struggling to keep commissions as low as possible, this sounds very generous.


+1 for this.
I leave them negative feedback, others must be alerted to this user. Unfortunately, this is not his first scam case.

If it is a bank transaction then you should not lose hope - because you can report everything to the police and your bank and try to get your money back. The only thing that will never be clear to me is why does it even occur to anyone to do transactions like this without escrow?

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Good question, it looks a little weird that someone agrees to such bad conditions just to maybe avoid KYC on some exchange.

Maybe try to sue the guy who scam you by asking to the authority to track his bank account. He is using a bank to receive money which means his identity is vulnerable once there's warrant to dig on it especially the amount he scam you is a huge amount already. You can use your conversation and forum as evidence against him.

I am unfamiliar with the aspkin.com forum. It seems to deal with eBay, PayPal and other accounts of online payment services.
I don't understand however, how is it possible to trust a forum user so much without using any escrow service? Can anyone explain to me what exactly this is all about?

One more thing @steve6732, why is the fee associated with your fiat-to-crypto exchange so high? Couldn't you just use a centralized exchange instead? Was there any money laundering involved?

Which profile exactly are you talking about?

This? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676128

If so, then I am not sure why you have you them with 26K Euros despite some warning feedback from DT members, their forum profile?
Be rest assured that their profile isn'tr going to get banned here.

That's huge money to be trusted to unknown or not  reputable person and actually forum admins or other people cannot help your case here so I guess this will be another issue which scammers successfully hit a big targets here. Maybe next time researching the feedbacks of individuals and the platform you are own can really help since you can really trust the feedback given here since for sure reputable guys will give their honest inputs of the platform what newbies ask here.

That was my question to but you've beat me to it by about 2 days. That's the dumbest thing to do in my opinion because, there's a lot of reputable exchanges in existence and they still use this exchanges even though there's a likely chance that they're going to get scammed or have their money taken hostage when it gets so big. This kind of scheme has been done by gambling websites with shady reputation so it's not surprising that exchanges do this. Maybe file a police report about this and see what they can do about it.

What? Are you kidding me? I know you are not. But, C'mon dude. I cannot think that you did it. How you can send 26000 euros to a stranger? First of all, You never know who is behind it. You don't them personally. You never met them. How can you send that much amount? Sorry for your loss but you should learn a lesson from this. I always follow some rules before doing any transaction with an unknown person. Either I don't pay first. If I pay, In my case, I would send him a maximum of 100 euro and ask him to complete the deal. If the deal becomes successful, I would do it again with a maximum of 200 euros. In That way, I would increase the amount. You should never do all in. That was the biggest mistake you made.

I am very surprised, as far as I know, if you return to the bank for a refund back to your account, you may be refused, because you voluntarily transferred the money, but you can contact the bank's security service and they may (not exactly) freeze the account, or find out his personal information, but proof is needed here, and I do not know how they relate to cryptocurrencies.

yes he is the guy, in few days i will follow the instructions given by other user here and try my best to red flag him on this forum.

Hey guys this is his thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2417495.200

I am not able to post on his thread, but i badly want to post on his sales thread, there is no option for me to post there, (may be because i am new on this forum?)

or can someone pls post on his thread about how he scammed me? with a link to my thread, I have left all evidence here.

No one can write in that thread because OP (Naster (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676128)) locked it. You can see the lock icon at the top of the thread
that's probably because they didn't want unwanted comments in his thread that can derail his business.

https://i.ibb.co/0q357QG/image.png (https://imgbb.com/)

If you are scammed, you can create flag 3 on his profile, so you will mark the whole thread with a red warning.
Also, don't forget to post a flag link on here to get support.

The thread is locked, so no one is able to post in it as of now. That's what scammers do so that no one warns other members about their scam in the thread.

Just create a type 3 flag, and we shall support it. It will display a banner on top of the post warning members about the scammer. Meanwhile. I am also leaving him negative feedback.

On another forum, Naster is an admin approved seller (https://www.aspkin.com/forums/account-services/119895-buy-here-bitcoin-your-stealth-paypal-quick-easily.html#post941402).

It is very rare for a person to have acquaintances to have a large amount of money and to happen to have an exchange service. But, nevertheless $26k is a huge amount that can turn someone into a criminal even the bank itself is interested in locking up and looking for reasons to source funds. I see Naster's reasoning on other forums that he believes the funds have been locked by the OP's bank account.

For a while I don't know which one is correct until both include screenshots of transactions from their respective accounts, not just conversations. So, I'm not sure that I would support the OP flag if it was created.

I understand what you mean. Even they had hundred of deals before. I would like to tell him, Never go all in until you don't know who is he and you cannot do anything if he does cheat. In this case, Naster did. You will be surprised, even I don't trust Most Trusted exchangers and trading platforms like Binance. I have created a Scam accusation about Binance before. You can check this out (Scam) Binance Block Users Withdrawals - You could be the next Victim. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5371666.0) I never Hodl all my balance in One Wallet. I split them into several wallets. So if a Platform does any kind of cheat like Binance did with a lot of Users. I can still be safe from them. So, Never trust too much with your hard-earned money.

Looks like he was a good trader at the beginning until he probably started scamming. If you look at the earlier feedback by some trusted members. It shows the did good deals with him at the beginning.

If I were OP, I would write to the admin of the other forum as well.

The user you have mentioned is negatively trusted by the dt of this forum before your post on the forum even before trading with the user. It is not a wise decision to deal with a unknown person while you will send 26k= dollars. Banning the account and/or giving negative trust will not be helpful for you. As you have sent the fund via bank you can take legal action if the fund is not illegal.

He already wrote to the other forum admin. And as OP said, Naster was kicked from the forum, and his sales thread was locked by the administrator. One more thing is, Writing to the admin not going to help him to return his 26K euro. I am still confused about his accusation because, Naster claims that OP's back locked the 26K euro. Not Naster's bank. So based on Naster's claim, he said he didn't receive the 26k. So, How can he send 26K crypto if he didn't received that 26k on his bank?

So I would like to ask OP to provide the proof that you have send him 26K to his bank and it was successfully released. If you have send him 26k and it wasn't released but locked. There's might be a problem.

I understand. But, since Naster Claims that the fund wasn't released from OP's bank. OP can provide proof that the fund was released. I know that the bank will never keep the funds. Either they will ask for some proof from the receiver or they will return the fund where it comes from.

I know Naster is lying, but, I guess this is the only way to prove that the OP has released the fund from his bank. Also, OP can ask his bank to make sure if the fund was released or not. I guess he already did. But, I am saying in case he didn't.

But it does help future traders who might stumble upon his thread.

If you follow the video carefully. Looks like Naster had his partner lock him out of the account. So he should take responsibility.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgUl5XfVm5U

If the claim is false by any chance, then why Naster quiet here?

I think I've seen it on several occasions he confirms this scenario and promises to pay the disputed amount partially, ie from his earnings in future transactions. Naster confirms that on the aspkin.com forum (forum admin verify) also their discussion on the telegram.
he never even tried to dispute, but only complained that it was not his fault for the disappearance of money.

it is still unclear to me. whether that money went to a regular and legal bank? if everything is legal, that shouldn't be a problem to ask for a refund from the bank.
Also, is it legal or illegal money?

I just came through this post. I'm sorry I have been replying since. I was busy with other stuff. I'm sorry.

I will take some time now to respond to this. PLEASE NOTE THIS WILL BE MY ONLY ONE COMMENT TO THIS THREAD. I will not spend more time with this another ridiculous accusation.



Yes indeed, it's not the first time seeing such bullshit accusations here. As far as I know, so far ALL accusations have been non funded! (Remember this!).




Good Question. As you all know here, I'm a well known Exchanger. Unfortunately, it can always happens that people send me dirty funds, claiming before it's clean and I can't always control this. For the case of the OP, he told me that he would make a clean transfer to the bank account provided. It turned out that the payment was fraudulent and not clean  as it was claiming. At first, I was really thinking that I have been scammed (on my side). After deep verification, it came out that the bank locked that payment.
If the payment was really clean, he could simply reclaim it from his side.
Everyone here should understand what it means.... I won't comment more.
I really wish I received that money, but it's not really the case.
Furthermore, I accepted (at first) to take responsibility for the loss caused, since I was the one in charge of the transaction. I suggested a monthly repayment plan. This was rejected by the OP and instead he went everywhere to blackmail me, post videos and whatever. After his terrible actions, I decided to drop any responsibility I wanted to take on this case.
In fact, this man is a SCAMMER, was trying to use my service to get the money he scammed from others. And I'm really happy it didn't work.
And again, Sorry my friend, I can't help you anymore. You can spend your day by posting whatever you want. There are still few forums where I'm Senior Member, find them and post your shit there.


You are abusing your Trust Power dear! So far, I scammed nobody on this forum. Never judge someone's character based on the words of another. Instead, study the motives behind the words of the person casting the bad accusation. and remember accusation reveals the character of the accuser more than the accused!



Yes, he should report everything to police (like my bank did already!) and get "his" money back.



Exactly, but this will work only if he's not the real SCAMMER here. Sorry guys, I don't need to scam 26k.




I locked my thread a while, before I met this guy. This has nothing to do with him. I simply want to avoid SPAM on my thread. If someone feels I scammed him, he should follow the rules and open a proper scam accusation. SIMPLE!!!
Others have here self-moderated threads. It does not mean, they are  scammers!!




Exactly! And he can open a claim on "his" bank account. It's standard these days.



I have been always a good trader, I'm still and I will continue to be. I still trade with respectable members of this forum. Feel free to have your own mind about me  :)



He can contact his bank to make a claim, they will request it from the receiving bank, and if everything is clean as he is claiming, money should return into his hands.
But as we can see here, with so many posts made, he never gave any details.....



1) I just saw it today  2) Atm I'm very busy with other stuff  3) I won't invest much time in such accusations. I have been following this the last weeks in other forums. I'm tired of it sorry. And as said, this is my first and last post about this topic. Feel free to continue the discussion.



in short, OP is scammer, was trying to use my service to process his payments, claiming that money was clean. Later, the payment was marked as fraudulent and some investigation started.
if it's not true what I'm saying, OP can make a RECALL from his side. And if the money was really received and used, the bank from my side would deny the request because of funds missing in the account or could deny also because of investigation running. The receiving bank would provide the reason anyway.
So I'm requesting to OP (who claims to own these "clean" funds) to make this RECALL, publish it here and inform us about the reply coming from the bank on my side.

ONLY AFTER THIS, I WILL POST FURTHER COMMENT. OTHERWISE, THIS CASE IS CLOSED FOR ME.


P.S: I have not been banned from Aspkin nor from any other forum. If I was really a SCAMMER, what would you think what would have happened? What about the OP?
#FindTheError    ;) ;)

Glad to see you here on this topic. we should definitely hear your explanation of the whole thing.


Sorry mate but I think that this is the proper use of DT power by my side. if it weren't for that, you probably wouldn't have a reason to come here and tell your side of the story. that the subject matter of the indictment itself did not happen on this forum, does not mean that it did not happen. one user has been charged with 26k fraud, Bitcointalk name won't stop him ^you from doing it again so, there is a risk in trading with you.
in the end, this does not have to be my final assessment. if it turns out I'm wrong, I'll be happy to correct the mistake.


is there any possibility for you to provide us with evidence that the funds have actually been frozen by your bank? that would really dispel any doubts in this case.
you certainly got some report from the bank, right?

I ask OP about his money, twice I think and also some other members but we did not get an answer. I find it more strange how he agreed so easily on an only 70% refund, where we are not talking about a small amount like a few hundred euros.

I have studied your previous case through trust scoring links. It looks like you also have a habit of asking clients to send funds to bank accounts that you don't master (what you say belong to your "Verified Customers"). Have you done the same in this case?
Nothing can really ensure the health of the account except the owner of his own. When your Verified client you can just make a dirty transaction or exceed the capacity of the transaction that is permitted without your knowledge that causes a locked account. If this happens, every time you want to solve a problem will always depend on your verified client effort how recovery is resolved.

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To be honest, I am not too familiar with international bank transactions. In my logic, if @Steve6732 can RECALL, meaning the fund has been sent to your bank account, is it so?

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If you don't feel like you're cheating anyone, then be cooperative and don't leave this thread where we have bad thoughts about you.

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But the confidence score says otherwise. Anyone suddenly can be a scammer because of certain conditions, including me right?
Evidence is not only needed from @Steve6732, from your side too. And I think, video evidence will be more valid considering that web versions of accounts can be edited with page inspect touches

This guy is a liar guys, do not trust him, he uses this excuse many times and gets away, he used this excuse of fradulent funds with other guys too and this bank transfer can not be reversed, he has simply stolen the money. Please admin ban him from this platform, and please guys do not deal with him anymore whose business is based on theft and scams and lies, you should not be supporting anyone here who scams and cheat and steals and lies, that is all i have to say  guys thank you.

Nasterxchange also scammed me for £2000 the exact same way he told me to transfer money to his bank

He then made me wait 3 weeks over Christmas time and then suddenly decided his bank account was magically “locked” and I can’t have my money

After I called him a scammer he suddenly started saying my payment was fraudulent this seems his way of stealing money he clearly just calls every person he steals from a scammer

Below are screenshots of him confirming he pulled the exact same scam on me for £2000

https://ibb.co/d5Gvcg4


https://ibb.co/1McbzVB


He’s already been banned on aspkin for pulling this same scam on multiple people it’s way more than a coincidence this keeps happening it’s clearly a very profitable sideline for him

Anytime someone exchanges small amounts he does the trade and gets the feedback. Anytime it’s a large payment just steal it and claim it’s fraudulent

 :o  :o  :o
OMG  :o :o :o
These screenshots are absolutely FAKE. It's getting daily more and more funny  :D  :D  :D  :D
I'm pretty sure, this account is an ALT of the OP steve




We are still waiting for the proof requested. After that we will talk.

SCAMMERS are not allowed here. As I can see, your thread has been removed by the Admins. Find an other forum to scam people with your friend Steve.

While we waiting for the requested proof, can you also provide any report from your bank related to this debatable 26k euros transaction?
I'm pretty sure the bank just blocked those funds without getting any explanation from them. even if the money is of dubious origin, the bank is obliged to inform you of the status of that transaction.
Ignoring to submit such proof only gives additional weight to this accusation.


You don't need to take a screenshot, you can use Loyce.club to find scraped posts even if they are deleted.
I guess you think about this post.
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5914/59145647.html

I’ve got videos of the telegram chat with naster that he says are “fake”

He’s just a complete and utter liar through and through

Scammed multiple people

Been banned on aspkin for scamming multiple people

Clearly he has run out of money and now needs to pull scams

Stop telling lies my dear friend.

I'm still APPROVED SELLER, it says ALL. And I get DAILY new business.

https://i.imgur.com/0Je1tXf.png


And if you want see, some of my reviews, even in 2022 (Thanks for your publicity  ;D  ;D), here we go:

https://i.imgur.com/1DFgFno.png


Better concentrate on your Ebay scam somewhere else  :D
I see I give you and your friends some work. Keep it up. In my free time, I will check by  ;)

Scammers are not allowed anywhere but scammers are presents everywhere. Many a people whom we trust but turns into scammer. You have positive trust on your profile but latter you have done several scam which is shown on the feedback on your profile.

Thank you for your comment  ;)

But (unfortunately) for you, I have scammed so far absolutely nobody. Don't mix up some FUD / or non funded scam accusations with reality.
At the end of the day, you are FREE to believe whoever you want.
I don't have more to say.

Naster banned from aspkin - https://ibb.co/Hp3rFH0



How can you even try and lie so blatently lol


Aspkin banned your thread until you pay someone nearly £26000 you owe them

They have had proof and done the research

And yet here you are denying it ever happened and saying you are still a seller on aspkin lol

You actually look so pathetic its unreal

Your thread clearly shows closed until you pay money back you scammed

And look at your thread for sale on bitcoin talk - the last 3 pages are full of different people calling you a scammer over and over and over again and you have warnings on here showing multiple people have reported you as a scammer

@BANK/EXCHANGES

You make no sense..

False



False, SEPA conducted through cbe don't need police order, they need court order and from superior court that takes 1 year min. But this is civil so false.


???

LOL
I can feel your pain dear. Since you have nothing better to do and your Ebay scam does not work anymore, keep shouting here  ;D

Unfortunately for you, I'm not banned. Can you see my thread, YES or NO?  :)   (I'm sorry for you, you are really pathetic).

and the last 3 pages - these are full from your shit posts and these from your friend Steve. Think twice and you have the answer. We don't need SPAM!!!!







don't care about this kid, he has absolutely no idea and was trying to sell here illegal stuff, making noise to get some attention.

Lol
You are simply a scammer. nothing else. And you will scam nobody here. simple  :)

my friend Scammer, look for new inspiration  :D

And I repeat again, you will scam nobody here. simple   :)

Well, I have been quiet a long time about these accusations since I needed more proof.

So let me clarify you now this story:
This guy contacted me that he has money that he wants to exchange and can't received.  I asked him to tell him if it's clean or stolen.

He said, he has 26000 EUR, clean to be sent. We agreed on the rate as you already saw  (and yes I don't work for free, makes sense?)

I organized account for him and his russian friends, I spent a full day to setup this  account on a remote machine, so they can access it anytime, even if I'm not available. In fact, I told them "this account is dedicated to you, keep checking it and inform me once your payment arrived".

They informed me that the payment has been sent.

Next day, account was locked. For few weeks, I didn't have the exact details about what really happened.

Today I can tell you 100% that the money they sent, was to defraud an Australian company. I took time to check this very carefully.

What happened is that, they hacked a shipping company (working in cargo sector), manipulated their email and sent a fake invoice to be paid on the account I had gave them. I received document showing these details. Who sent the payment? to who? for what etc... The invoice was initially for one the customers of the shipping company. Bank details have been changed and sent to the shipping company.
Fortunately for the sender, they knew this after having sent, and made a complaint to the bank and the account has been  immediately locked by the bank for investigation. I can assume that the money already returned to the sender and to the company. 26 000 EUR is not a small amount yes. If he had told me that they are running this kind of operations, I would have never given them this account.
I have some documents available, for privacy reason, I will not post them. But whoever is really interested and has Green high trust on this forum, can contact me on Telegram and I will show him/her.


I know a lot of people on this forum, are waiting daily for opportunities to destroy my name. It's okay to do so but take time at least to check all before calling me SCAMMER!

LOL you must have felt in love with me my friend  ;D  ;D


https://i.imgur.com/UDHgIDS.gif

Let's say you have not scammed anybody but if it is right then why default trusted users gave you negative trust and also many people supported flag against you. You have already same case like the OP. Would you like to solve other accusations as well??

Thank you for your message  :)

Regarding the DT users: there is something funny I noticed here, as soon as someone posts a SCAM accusation against you, some of them will run very fast, just like they were waiting for this to happen, to support the flags, without having taking the time to fully understand what it is about. I call this abuse of trust. But they are in their right. All good. This is my point of view. So please guys, no offence. And no need to discuss this further, its OFF-TOPIC.


I like this question and its form  :D
Ofc they have been 1-2 "scam accusation", all non funded. Why? They were mostly people who used my service to defraud other people, without telling me. And when their scam got spotted and their dirty funds got seized, they called me out scammer.
And again, this is Off-Topic.

I managed few projects so far. It's not always easy for me to know if what the people are telling is really true or not ( I always try to check it, as much as I can!).

People who used my service with legit funds have been always happy. And good amount of high value members of this forum are still using it.

So a message to those SCAMMERS who think they can use my service to defraud people, you better stay away from my service.