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Title: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: johnj on December 06, 2011, 01:18:16 PM
http://www.regretsy.com/2011/12/05/cats-1-kids-0/


Maybe someone should let them know about Bitcoin?

Edit:  Regretsy promotes some of the lesser-thought-out items found on Etsy.com. Etsy.com is like an E-bay for arts-and-crafts, without the auction.

Regretsy has a pretty large following, due to the writing style of the author as well as the many charitable things she's done.


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: sadpandatech on December 06, 2011, 01:26:04 PM
http://www.regretsy.com/2011/12/05/cats-1-kids-0/


Maybe someone should let them know about Bitcoin?

  I am not familiar with that community but if that post of theirs is real, that is pretty fucked up of Paypal!!  Is this community of theirs not able to go file for 501c of some type and sue paypal for the frozen funds? Man, that's just fucked up to mess with funds that are clearly being designated to benefit children!!!  Someone should smash Paypal's balls with a big fucking, spiked hammer!!!  assholes!!

  *breathes deeply*


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: ineededausername on December 06, 2011, 01:27:44 PM
Paypal is the embodiment of pure evil.


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: proudhon on December 06, 2011, 01:29:30 PM
I've been quite pessimistic about bicoin's usefulness, but if PayPal keeps going on like this, they could really be a major reason to use bitcoin.


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: ineededausername on December 06, 2011, 01:30:23 PM
wow...
PAYPAL: Only a nonprofit can use the Donate button.
ME: That’s false. It says right in the PDF of instructions for the Donate button that it can be used for “worthy causes.”
PAYPAL: I haven’t seen that PDF. And what you’re doing is not a worthy cause, it’s charity.
ME: What’s the difference?
PAYPAL: You can use the donate button to raise money for a sick cat, but not poor people.

So poor people are inferior to cats, eh?


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: proudhon on December 06, 2011, 01:31:02 PM
Also, looks like if you guys want a good place to direct all those bitcoins you're collecting for charity, this might be the place - "Bitcoin saves Christmas!".


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: Jan on December 06, 2011, 01:32:43 PM
Also, looks like if you guys want a good place to direct all those bitcoins you're collecting for charity, this might be the place - "Bitcoin saves Christmas!".
+1


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: czebrda on December 06, 2011, 01:33:28 PM
If you don't feel like writing anything to this http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/n1yx1/scumbag_paypal/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/n1yx1/scumbag_paypal/) discussion, u don't have to - there is already a number of posts offering bitcoin as an alternative to paypal and listing its main advantages. Just look for those posts and upvote them.
People need to see that there's a better way than this profit driven bullcrap!


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: realnowhereman on December 06, 2011, 02:00:28 PM
How annoying...

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Bitcoins are not happening, what with only the diehard true believers still using them.

I understand you are trying to make a sensible suggestion to solve a serious problem but bitcoins are so worthless that they are now more likely to be used as an ironic gift than currency.

We've got quite a PR mountain to climb.


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: sadpandatech on December 06, 2011, 02:16:33 PM
How annoying...

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Bitcoins are not happening, what with only the diehard true believers still using them.

I understand you are trying to make a sensible suggestion to solve a serious problem but bitcoins are so worthless that they are now more likely to be used as an ironic gift than currency.

We've got quite a PR mountain to climb.

source on that quote?

   Aye, Ctrl-F on reddit has 0 matches for 'Bitcoins are not happening'


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: johnj on December 06, 2011, 02:31:25 PM
Maybe Bit-Pay can contact them, set up an account which will deal with the exchange rate issue.


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: wareen on December 06, 2011, 02:40:47 PM
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Bitcoins are not happening, what with only the diehard true believers still using them.

I understand you are trying to make a sensible suggestion to solve a serious problem but bitcoins are so worthless that they are now more likely to be used as an ironic gift than currency.

We've got quite a PR mountain to climb.

Source: http://www.regretsy.com/2011/12/05/cats-1-kids-0/ (http://www.regretsy.com/2011/12/05/cats-1-kids-0/)

+1 on the PR mountain


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: realnowhereman on December 06, 2011, 02:42:04 PM
How annoying...

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Bitcoins are not happening, what with only the diehard true believers still using them.

I understand you are trying to make a sensible suggestion to solve a serious problem but bitcoins are so worthless that they are now more likely to be used as an ironic gift than currency.

We've got quite a PR mountain to climb.

source on that quote?

It's on the regretsy page, not the reddit page.  It's been downvoted in the meantime -- ha.

Just search for "bitcoin".


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: Gabi on December 06, 2011, 02:44:11 PM
This is ridicolous

And this is EXACTLY why Bitcoin exist. Someone (more expert than me) should contact them and help them start to accept bitcoin


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: sadpandatech on December 06, 2011, 02:48:22 PM
How annoying...

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Bitcoins are not happening, what with only the diehard true believers still using them.

I understand you are trying to make a sensible suggestion to solve a serious problem but bitcoins are so worthless that they are now more likely to be used as an ironic gift than currency.

We've got quite a PR mountain to climb.

source on that quote?

It's on the regretsy page, not the reddit page.  It's been downvoted in the meantime -- ha.

Just search for "bitcoin".

  Thanks, found it. added my downvote.  cheers  Edit; also posted out to my facebook, regret link, reddit link, and of course link to here.


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: BTCurious on December 06, 2011, 03:06:16 PM
It seems the people on reddit are about fifty-fifty pro and against bitcoin. That's a lot better than before!


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: Gabi on December 06, 2011, 03:08:31 PM
Well bitcoin doesn't depend on reddit...


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: BurtW on December 06, 2011, 04:05:09 PM
I have posted this issue to the Bitcoin100 charity thread at:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52543.0



Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on December 06, 2011, 04:51:26 PM
I have posted this issue to the Bitcoin100 charity thread at:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52543.0


Researching and reading now, and will reply on the other thread. Thanks, guys.


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: Revalin on December 07, 2011, 12:01:58 AM
Thanks, found it. added my downvote.

Don't be a bitch and downvote just because you disagree.  Reply instead with a link to bit-pay or something useful.  Censoring people sure isn't gonna change their mind.


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: sadpandatech on December 07, 2011, 12:06:24 AM
Thanks, found it. added my downvote.

Don't be a bitch and downvote just because you disagree.  Reply instead with a link to bit-pay or something useful.  Censoring people sure isn't gonna change their mind.

  strong words there, m8..

  "Bitcoins are not happening, what with only the diehard true believers still using them."

  That statement is not an openeing to advert something. It is a basless statement made by someone who has a stick in their ass and is not going to change their mind. period.  If it were a genuine criticism I would do just what you suggested.



Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: Revalin on December 07, 2011, 12:47:05 AM
strong words there, m8..

It's a strong opinion.  I apologize for the overly-harsh choice of words, though.

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That statement is not an openeing to advert something. It is a basless statement made by someone who has a stick in their ass and is not going to change their mind. period.  If it were a genuine criticism I would do just what you suggested.

That's fair.  I'd still think someone ought to point out that accepting coins costs them nothing and could bring in some no-strings-attached donations.  Where Regretsy take it from there is up to them.


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: ineededausername on December 07, 2011, 03:24:42 AM
The main problem is merchant acceptance.  Or, of course, you could tell them to take their bitcoins to mtgox, sell them, withdraw (HAVE FUN DOING THAT), then pay some merchant.  By then it's January already.


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: rotrott on December 07, 2011, 02:33:04 PM
More backlash against paypal:  http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/06/paypal-account-freeze/


Title: Re: Paypal freezes Regretsys christmas-for-kids account
Post by: johnj on December 07, 2011, 08:04:09 PM
A small update here http://www.regretsy.com/2011/12/06/sooner-or-later-youll-pay-pal/

An interesting snippit, where bitcoin could shine,

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"That’s not just bad for me, it’s bad for anyone who uses Paypal. Because as long as policies are this ambiguous, people will come up against this kind of crap and see their assets frozen. How many of them are going to be able to ratchet up the public shaming that was handed out in the last 24 hours?

And I think we all know that Paypal’s apologies and reversals were motivated by the intense scrutiny they’ve been subjected to. If I were Sally’s Soap Shack, I would be waiting out that six month hold right now and wondering how to make Ramen noodles taste like Christmas ham."

and

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They have also offered me the opportunity of doing unlimited business without fees through the end of the year. It’s really the only way I’d use them at this point, since they won’t be getting anything from me.