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Title: Fight against corruption
Post by: Gosgosking on February 05, 2022, 09:57:43 AM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Gyfts on February 06, 2022, 05:25:58 AM
Let's ask Mexico this important question.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/30/americas/mexico-political-killings-intl/index.html

There is a running list of politicians that have been assassinated by drug cartels. These criminal organizations make up law enforcement and the government, and will stop any bright eyed politician who wants to invoke change by murdering them and leaving their body mutilated hanging from an overpass as a message.

A President does not get elected in a corruption riddled system. There are mechanisms in place to prevent those sorts of things from happening, just like in Mexico. Except the mechanism isn't one of governmental resistance, it's just murder. To each his own.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Rockstarguy on February 06, 2022, 08:31:11 AM
The only way corruption like this can  be defeated by a president who is different from other leaders who have served in the past, is if the citizens of that country can fully support and stand by their president. If other bad politicians sees that majority  of the citizens  are against corruption,  I think it will be tough for them to go against the president.
 Like in South Africa,  it was easy for Nelson Mandela  to fight for good governance because  he was fully supported by other citizens  of South Africa .


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Tony116 on February 06, 2022, 06:47:58 PM
Corruption is now so pervasive in a country that it is almost impossible to eradicate it.

Because everyone from the cabinet to the
police (who spoke of providing security to the nation),
teachers (whose motto was to make a country well-educated),
doctors (after God whom people depend for their lives  ) are all corrupted.

It is not possible for a new ruler who comes to power with such good ambition to eradicate this corruption of all the people around him.

Either that new ruler himself goes after corruption
Otherwise, he was removed as an incompetent ruler for trying to eradicate corruption. In some cases, brutal killings were also carried out.

The only way to eradicate corruption is for people at all levels to come forward. But the sad thing is that there is no one to come forward. Everyone is busy with their own interests.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Bagong91 on February 07, 2022, 06:17:44 AM

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?

Yes, actually the trigger for this corruption is mental and system.
 Sometimes a good mentality is defeated by a rotten system, which exists in a bureaucracy.

I see that in a corrupt government, people who perpetrate corruption are often trapped in their positions. Where, they do not want to lose their position, therefore they must follow orders from those whose position or position is higher than them. So there are many possible causes of corruption.

If you want the head of state to avoid corruption, in my opinion, you must be independent and not use the party as a vehicle to achieve power.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Rruchi man on February 07, 2022, 12:18:20 PM
Corruption is now so pervasive in a country that it is almost impossible to eradicate it.

Because everyone from the cabinet to the
police (who spoke of providing security to the nation),
teachers (whose motto was to make a country well-educated),
doctors (after God whom people depend for their lives  ) are all corrupted.

Corruption even goes further than this, it has eaten deep into the fabric of society unfortunately so much that even regular citizens now exhibit and show signs of corruption. The system need a a complete overhaul, just as the corruption started to spread from top officials, so also will any fight to bring change and stop corruption also will have to start from the top.

To enforce change, and stop corrupt practices... An independent body free from government interference can be set up to evaluate corrupt practices and punish offenders. Stiffer punishments can be drafted for offenders, and when caught, such corrupt officials and persons should be used as a good example to discourage others from being corrupt.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on February 07, 2022, 05:54:35 PM
When we here the word corruption, our mind immediately pushes right back to the government and those within its cabinet system. We seem to forget that, these same persons that are now rulers or sovereign in our individual nations states, were just amongst the crowds like we are.

Better question, is there anyman that isn't corrupt in our world today?
Who is a corrupt man and who isn't?

One thing is for sure, you never can read tell until one is exposed to power. The little you do today and see it to be having less impact on people and the society, is what could be transformed to a major scandal when given the power or opportune to handle public offices.

Corruption isn't a one man fight and it starts with you!


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Tony116 on February 08, 2022, 05:15:06 PM
Corruption is now so pervasive in a country that it is almost impossible to eradicate it.
Because everyone from the cabinet to the
police (who spoke of providing security to the nation),
teachers (whose motto was to make a country well-educated),
doctors (after God whom people depend for their lives  ) are all corrupted.

Corruption even goes further than this, it has eaten deep into the fabric of society unfortunately so much that even regular citizens now exhibit and show signs of corruption. The system need a a complete overhaul, just as the corruption started to spread from top officials, so also will any fight to bring change and stop corruption also will have to start from the top.

To enforce change, and stop corrupt practices... An independent body free from government interference can be set up to evaluate corrupt practices and punish offenders. Stiffer punishments can be drafted for offenders, and when caught, such corrupt officials and persons should be used as a good example to discourage others from being corrupt.

The way the world is engulfed in corruption, I don't think it will ever be possible to eradicate corruption. People know that corruption is bad but they can't control their greed and in the end, they are getting involved in it.

Since the number of corrupt people is high and everyone is crazy about their own interests, honest people fail to teach them even by bringing examples from their holy book.

And the most interesting thing is those who have the responsibility to prevent corruption the rulers themselves are corrupted by the defense forces. If corrupt people are listed, their names will be on the top list, I think.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: yhiaali3 on February 08, 2022, 08:36:00 PM
It is not that easy, but it is not impossible. He needs a lot of strength and continuous work to remove all sources of corruption. The new president needs to have the keys to power first so that he can fight corruption. He has to win the popularity and love of the people at first, and then he has to start making important reforms that enable him to start doing his job well, then he has to pull the rug out from under the corrupt politicians and kick them out of important positions and hire good people he trusts, the job is very difficult and needs a strong boss to do that.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: yazher on February 09, 2022, 03:20:56 AM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?

This is easy because when you are the leader of the whole country, it means you are superior to everyone out there and you can implement some law that will automatically end that corruption era by waging war on those who are corrupt. When you guys heard Duterte, you already know what it means. the same guy who raided the house of a drug lord with a grenade. That's just how should it end because those guys love violence and sacrifice their life to save the younger generations in many ways better. I'm not a fan of random killings but to put them in their right place is the best thing you can do. I'm living in the front row where drugs are easily accessible but as soon as Duterte took charge, everything was changed completely to a better way.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: DanWalker on February 09, 2022, 08:46:44 PM
When we here the word corruption, our mind immediately pushes right back to the government and those within its cabinet system. We seem to forget that, these same persons that are now rulers or sovereign in our individual nations states, were just amongst the crowds like we are.

Better question, is there anyman that isn't corrupt in our world today?
Who is a corrupt man and who isn't?

One thing is for sure, you never can read tell until one is exposed to power. The little you do today and see it to be having less impact on people and the society, is what could be transformed to a major scandal when given the power or opportune to handle public offices.

Corruption isn't a one man fight and it starts with you!

Right, The saddest thing is that from the prime-minister to the doctors, teachers, farmer, the cabinet, that is, the whole country is corrupted.

Everyone is busy with their own business and profit. And there is no way out of this corruption. Because if you look through any section of the government, you will get some corrupted people who are sitting on the big chair.

No matter how good and honest a new prime-minister comes to power, the corruption of everyone around him makes the ruler addicted to corruption. Where the whole country is corrupted whom against we will fight?


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Dunamisx on February 10, 2022, 10:20:40 AM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?

The first question to ask ourselves is how did the president elect emerged a winner? Is it through election poll rig or by a free and fare platter, a building can't withstand turbulence if the foundation is bad, the president can't do good knowing fully that he was selected and not elected, but all things been equal, a vibrant and faithful president who truly won the election will stand by the truth of his words amidst   those against it.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: bakasabo on February 10, 2022, 10:48:23 AM
The goal of corruption is to gain desired result or benefit with the help of funds or other benefits. Corruption is what puts one persons wish over others. If you want to fight corruption, doesnt this mean that you have something that does not suit you (but maybe suits for others), and you want to put your interests above others? Can it understood as fighting corruption with corruption? I think corruption is impossible to beat, because when searching for alternative solution, people plant another seed of corruption.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: sunsilk on February 10, 2022, 12:16:08 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
Easily?

Even that president is going to declare an all out war to the corrupt officials, it won't be that easy. It's like you're pushing a heavy boulder but there's the an obstacle that stops it from doing so.

It's hard to accept that those corrupted politicians will do everything to remain at their positions. They've been milking money to the government with their corrupted ideas.

They know how to hide their corrupt activities while sitting on their positions. That's the sad truth that corrupt countries despite there's a strong will of a good leader. There goes the other officials that won't stop what they've used to do.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: BALIK on February 10, 2022, 04:47:54 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.
Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
Easily?
Even that president is going to declare an all out war to the corrupt officials, it won't be that easy. It's like you're pushing a heavy boulder but there's the an obstacle that stops it from doing so.
It's hard to accept that those corrupted politicians will do everything to remain at their positions. They've been milking money to the government with their corrupted ideas.
They know how to hide their corrupt activities while sitting on their positions. That's the sad truth that corrupt countries despite there's a strong will of a good leader. There goes the other officials that won't stop what they've used to do.

In fact, there is no point in imposing the responsibility of eradicating corruption on the government alone. The whole world is plagued by corruption. About 90% of the people in a country are corrupt. Where everyone around the president is afflicted with this incurable disease, it is never possible for the president alone to eradicate corruption.  Either he will become addicted to corruption (there is no saying, "It is bad to be with the bad") or he will have to be blindfolded to take action against corruption and eventually be forced to resign under pressure.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: kro55 on February 10, 2022, 06:33:14 PM
The goal of corruption is to gain desired result or benefit with the help of funds or other benefits. Corruption is what puts one persons wish over others. If you want to fight corruption, doesnt this mean that you have something that does not suit you (but maybe suits for others), and you want to put your interests above others? Can it understood as fighting corruption with corruption? I think corruption is impossible to beat, because when searching for alternative solution, people plant another seed of corruption.

Corruption could only be fought if there was a large group of people who could fight against corruption. But it is surprising but true that if you fight against corruption and ask for help, you will not find even 100 people on your side in the whole country. Everyone says they want to eradicate corruption, but I am sure it will be found out that no one is completely honest. The entire world is filled with corrupted people now, where I will fight against corruption, against whom?


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: sunsilk on February 14, 2022, 07:46:36 AM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.
Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
Easily?
Even that president is going to declare an all out war to the corrupt officials, it won't be that easy. It's like you're pushing a heavy boulder but there's the an obstacle that stops it from doing so.
It's hard to accept that those corrupted politicians will do everything to remain at their positions. They've been milking money to the government with their corrupted ideas.
They know how to hide their corrupt activities while sitting on their positions. That's the sad truth that corrupt countries despite there's a strong will of a good leader. There goes the other officials that won't stop what they've used to do.

In fact, there is no point in imposing the responsibility of eradicating corruption on the government alone. The whole world is plagued by corruption. About 90% of the people in a country are corrupt. Where everyone around the president is afflicted with this incurable disease, it is never possible for the president alone to eradicate corruption.  Either he will become addicted to corruption (there is no saying, "It is bad to be with the bad") or he will have to be blindfolded to take action against corruption and eventually be forced to resign under pressure.
It's true that with that percentage the world is really hard to cure with the corruption. But there are some special case that I've read, there are still people and leaders that really wants the best for their country and they're not just all talk but they're proving it through their deeds.

Like this guy: Jose Mujica: The world's 'poorest' president (https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20243493)

I'm not from that country and I've only read articles that seems to be giving him the positive outlook based on what he has done. Giving 90% of his salary for the benefits of his constituents is a noble act as a president. But whether he does good governance or not, there will always be the bad side comments about leadership and this is in general, for all leaders.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Mometaskers on February 15, 2022, 01:12:53 PM
Assuming your president actually wants to get rid of it, he's in for a bumpy ride. Although it varies by country, those that are already in position will find ways to hinder your president's policies to remove corruption. And also, he's mostly only in control of his respective branch of government, which is already challenge enough, imagine trying to affect changes in the other branches.

And then there's the non-government actors, the businesses, criminal organizations, etc that have slithered their way into government and influencing it from a distance. You'd have to first find out all those and after that there's still the problem of how to get rid of them.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: cmg777 on February 15, 2022, 11:42:03 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?

This is easy because when you are the leader of the whole country, it means you are superior to everyone out there and you can implement some law that will automatically end that corruption era by waging war on those who are corrupt. When you guys heard Duterte, you already know what it means. the same guy who raided the house of a drug lord with a grenade. That's just how should it end because those guys love violence and sacrifice their life to save the younger generations in many ways better. I'm not a fan of random killings but to put them in their right place is the best thing you can do. I'm living in the front row where drugs are easily accessible but as soon as Duterte took charge, everything was changed completely to a better way.

I agree with what he is doing there but where I disagree is where he is handing you off to and that is big pharma an even bigger drug dealer than the violent small fries you once dealt with. At least when they commit violence you don't hear about just someone "mysterious died" or side effects caused this etc, etc. One for the other we all want to rule the world bottom line, that's what a real small fry drug dealer once told me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erCM_cISWuw

and not it wasn't NAS.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Sayeds56 on February 16, 2022, 02:18:36 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?

Fighting against corruption is a topic which has always been very interesting for me because I have witnessed it devastating effects on economy and how it ruins the very fabric of the society. I have witnessed in my country How Political mafias loots and plunders wealth of the country and transfer it to their overseas accounts. Fighting against corruption need political will on highest level of government and state, it is not easy task but achievable through legislation and reforms.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Quintom on February 16, 2022, 06:08:40 PM
As far as Nigeria is concern I don't think there would be anything like "genuine government" anyone been voted into power turns to something else once they step into that office and start seeing the millions and billions there..... My dear it is only God himself that can help to reset and restore this country for us.
The level of corruption in the country is becoming woree by the day, for example with the ongoing Abba Kiari case...  God should just help us.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Sayeds56 on February 16, 2022, 11:33:51 PM
As far as Nigeria is concern I don't think there would be anything like "genuine government" anyone been voted into power turns to something else once they step into that office and start seeing the millions and billions there..... My dear it is only God himself that can help to reset and restore this country for us.
The level of corruption in the country is becoming woree by the day, for example with the ongoing Abba Kiari case...  God should just help us.

This is the dilemma of all developing countries that people choose their leaders by their own votes who come in power to loot and plunder the wealth of the country by corrupt practices. Accountability is the cornerstone of a well-functioning democracy and Democracy without accountability is a joke. Democracy is called a system of government where bad leaders are filtered out through democratic process but we see same corrupt people are elected again and again.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Agbe on February 17, 2022, 07:57:23 PM
Nobody can fight corruption, instead corruption will fight the person. In Nigeria, Mangu, the former "Economic and Financial Crime Commission" boss, was arrested for corruption.


Corruption is as old as man.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: D-law on February 18, 2022, 02:30:21 PM
As far as Nigeria is concern I don't think there would be anything like "genuine government" anyone been voted into power turns to something else once they step into that office and start seeing the millions and billions there..... My dear it is only God himself that can help to reset and restore this country for us.
The level of corruption in the country is becoming woree by the day, for example with the ongoing Abba Kiari case...  God should just help us.

Day after day Nigeria will never improve.
I think no change of government will do no change, all they need is violence from the youths.
Taking some useful actions will put their heads straight, you see Nigerian youths leaving the country as a result of bad government, who them will fight for the country ?
Every one scared on fighting for his/ her rights.
I'm pained!!!


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Lordhermes on February 18, 2022, 11:04:49 PM
As far as Nigeria is concern I don't think there would be anything like "genuine government" anyone been voted into power turns to something else once they step into that office and start seeing the millions and billions there..... My dear it is only God himself that can help to reset and restore this country for us.
The level of corruption in the country is becoming woree by the day, for example with the ongoing Abba Kiari case...  God should just help us.

Day after day Nigeria will never improve.
I think no change of government will do no change, all they need is violence from the youths.
Taking some useful actions will put their heads straight, you see Nigerian youths leaving the country as a result of bad government, who them will fight for the country ?
Every one scared on fighting for his/ her rights.
I'm pained!!!
Exactly,every country is corrupt,so corruption  is now a thing that is so rampant and common to the extend one find it difficult to see truth in the mouth of our leaders.

The only thing one needs to do is to remove all the corrupt leaders and fix new people that are truthful,transparent in action and trust worthy,to make the society a better place.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Zlantann on February 19, 2022, 06:59:50 AM
The question is: Who is fighting the corruption? He that goes to equity must come with clean hands. Even if the President is not corrupt his appointees would be.

Elections are very expensive. Campaigns, tours, publicity and bribing electorate is quite capital intensive. Sometimes politicians take loans from banks or seek sponsorship from the rich. How would they pay back these loans.

The would always engage in corrupt practices to pay up their debts. Some of their sponsors become Godfathers and dictates how contracts are awarded.

Except our electoral systems becomes less expensive or a sincere rich candidate emerges then fighting corruption would always be a mirage


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: im posible on February 19, 2022, 10:21:39 AM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?

My personal opinion says no. I even doubt that the elected president is really purely from the people's choice not from the number of people whose votes have been bought with money that is part of the black campaign action. Then how can a leader who is elected by means of corruption stop corruption?
I feel salute to the Chinese state which is able to shoot dead corruptors in front of the public. Hopefully the same thing can be applied to countries with rampant corruption cases.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Agbe on February 19, 2022, 11:54:11 PM
In Africa, Nigeria in particular. In 20th century, Nigerians police normally pursued (Go after) arms robbers, but now in this 21st century they are not pursueing arms robbers again. Why? Because those policemen who pursued these arms robbers would later turned to arms robbers.

So, in essence, corruption is a time bomb dropped by the colonial governments in Africa, so no democratic elected government can remove corruption in Africa but the masses. Present Nigerian President, Buhari was fighting was corruption, but now everything has die down, why?


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Lordhermes on February 22, 2022, 12:11:46 AM
When a government is too bad of corruption it is not that easy to make it corrupt free state, corruption is like a deadly disease in that have no cure. If there is a president that is not corrupt it will be hard for him to end corruption or won't be even possible for him to end corruption.
Ofcourse,you are very right talking about corrupt leadership leading to corrupt society.A bad government will always result to corruption because embezzlement of fund and misappropriation becomes the order of the day.
From the head to the least,corruption becomes too common to the extend  that almost every activity that is done is done in a corrupt way.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: yazher on February 22, 2022, 04:52:50 AM
When a government is too bad of corruption it is not that easy to make it corrupt free state, corruption is like a deadly disease in that have no cure. If there is a president that is not corrupt it will be hard for him to end corruption or won't be even possible for him to end corruption.
Ofcourse,you are very right talking about corrupt leadership leading to corrupt society.A bad government will always result to corruption because embezzlement of fund and misappropriation becomes the order of the day.
From the head to the least,corruption becomes too common to the extend  that almost every activity that is done is done in a corrupt way.

Every disease has a cure except for old age and death, of course, if they change the whole system and appoint the right person as a leader, they can turn the table and fix their country at a slow pace if they were the worst country ever. Just look how bad in the past these successful countries we have right now, they were even worse because they don't have any leader or they have been colonized by some lunatic empire in the past but they managed to fix their countries in the span of 50 or more years.



Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Markinzo on February 22, 2022, 05:31:43 AM
In any society in which corruption have eaten deep into the fabrics of such society, corruption becomes a normal to all. And as such a very few whom wake up to fight it will be viewed as aliens and will definitely be alienated by the very system. It can only take the "" STRONG WILL" of many a majority in such society both the govern and governed  to weild out such decision of ending corruption at all levels. And this especially must starts from individual homes.



Corruption can't be ordinarily quelled within a moment or epoch, and can't realistically be ending from up down but rather down to up. What do I mean by down to up? If in our individual homes as a society we try to create a paradigm shift within our young as they grow, putting it to them only a daily (as we do teach them  ABCD from cradle) the ills and dangers that accompany a corrupt society. The mindset we create in the young generation as they grow will go a long way yo ending or reducing corruption in any society instead of try to end corruption from the elderly.
It might not seem easy but it can be achieved. It's just a time factor issue.

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Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Sakanwa on April 10, 2023, 01:36:59 PM
Fighting corruption is everyone's duty not only the government officials i think we all are responsible for a free and fair life only if we are positive thinkers and we want growth in the society we should believe in one's self and when our problems are being shared among ourselves it can be solved i don't think the government can really attest to have known the actual  citizens in the country they only focus on the matter that comes to their table every disease has a cure like they said which simply means if the system is bad it can be changed i know it won't be easy but gradually they say can change a lot of things I can  remember our country today is not as it was before civilization has taken over in times of electing our leaders which hasn't been like that in the past many are asking will nigeria change for the better or best the answer is yes it can be changed if we out heads together as patriotic citizens


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: 348Judah on April 10, 2023, 03:14:03 PM
We all can fight corruption and chase it far from us by all means, nit only that, every other social vices and moral misconducts can be chased away along side corruption, we can live a disciplined life, we can individually form a collective efforts towards living a live of emulation, we must chase corruption out of the community, we need to get used to doing things the right way because everyone including our children is watching us.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Newlifebtc on April 10, 2023, 10:14:18 PM
I am seeing corruption like something that I'm not stop and before corruption will stop it will be as matter of government of that particular country to change power preposition because with things that is happening now I don't think that corruption will have a limitation it will continue to extend to any other part through emulation by assisting people who is the current leaders


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Lordhermes on April 11, 2023, 01:40:49 PM
I am seeing corruption like something that I'm not stop and before corruption will stop it will be as matter of government of that particular country to change power preposition because with things that is happening now I don't think that corruption will have a limitation it will continue to extend to any other part through emulation by assisting people who is the current leaders
corruption has been biggest problem face by underdevelping nations. Every leaders see the opportunity they have to steal public funds. Instead of using the funds to develop their nations, they used it for their selfish interest.  Corruption can only be stopped for the family level, everyone in the family should preach against in , because the children are the leaders of tomorrow, if the generation has failed us, let the next generation not fail too. So we must speak against it now, so that our children Will know the evil of corruption to the society. We can't stop it now, we must build a free corruption society.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Obari on April 12, 2023, 05:56:30 PM
Corruption is every man priority I don't think it is the duty of the leaders alone most people do say it is very hard to stop corruption which is a wrong thought we can both fight it if all heads are put together. the society cannot be as safe if the act of corruption is played by the citizens this act as a resistance to perfect way of life and it also prevent common negotiation and trust among us i believe by fighting corruption we must be pure, encourage patriotism and and also fight against other social vices. The world can be free from this problem if we all believe in integrity and also when we are contented with we have


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: o48o on April 12, 2023, 07:04:22 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
Not easy but not impossible. And if there are really no alternatives that's sort of a pointless question. Question is, how much power will people want to give for fighting corruption?

People often hate first world money tracking and surveillance but that hardcore surveillance is pretty much the price if we want to prevent corruption.
When people demand transparency they also will need to be part of that same transparency. As when everyone is accountable it's harder to hide bribes and quid pro quos.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: rahmad2nd on April 12, 2023, 10:42:45 PM
Corruption is considered an extraordinary crime because it has a massive impact in the short and long term. Not only is it detrimental to the country, corruption is miserable for the people in it. the bad effects of corruption can hit all fields, especially if it is carried out in congregation by state officials. I'm sure every country has methods and ways to prevent acts of corruption, they even have slogans that state anti-corruption. but the fact is, corruption will never disappear. Corruption cases are always found in developing countries, my country is no exception.

To be honest, I'm not an expert to talk about this matter. in fact, I'm not sure I have the right answer.
related to what you discuss in this post. it is obligatory, if a leader must have a knight spirit that is able to eradicate and strictly punish officials involved in corruption cases. However, the job is not easy especially if it is only done by a single president. at least, the president needs his aides who are honest and clean, so that the program to eradicate and fight against corruption runs as it should. in my country, the problem of corruption is not due to an ineffective system. however, more on the human resources themselves.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Flydolphine on April 13, 2023, 08:55:02 AM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?

My country is plagued with corrupt political office holders.these people do just anything in order to have their way.they bride Judge's with huge some of money to pervert Justice,the military even electoral bodies are not spared.The president at the onset of his administration said his core agenda was to fight corruption.one can hardly imagine how a sitting president hoped to achieve that when his cabinet members and inner circle have a track record of looting national treasures.truly having the mind to stop corruption in a nation where corruption is seen as nothing will require much more than just promise's


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Queentoshi on April 13, 2023, 11:09:04 AM
When a government is too bad of corruption it is not that easy to make it corrupt free state, corruption is like a deadly disease in that have no cure. If there is a president that is not corrupt it will be hard for him to end corruption or won't be even possible for him to end corruption.
fight against corruption, I don't think that can be achievable at the moment. the heart of humans is very deep, there is no country that there is no corruption, corruption is in every government system. once someone enter a political position and is trying to be corruption free, those that are corrupt will start doing everything possible so that person can be remove from that position he or she is occupying, and another thing is when a country has more corrupt leaders in the government sectors, it becomes very difficult to fight against corruption and corrupt leaders.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Newlifebtc on April 17, 2023, 10:58:19 PM
As far as Nigeria is concern I don't think there would be anything like "genuine government" anyone been voted into power turns to something else once they step into that office and start seeing the millions and billions there..... My dear it is only God himself that can help to reset and restore this country for us.
The level of corruption in the country is becoming woree by the day, for example with the ongoing Abba Kiari case...  God should just help us.
no contract have a good government so all the country now cuz you have a bad egg that is causing the problem of that country talking of government government never being open to anyone because what they're interested is for their own selfish interest not for any other person so many politicians don't even consider their citizens as anything so that is why I make my conclusion that the government is turn-by-turn until you get to the point before you can said that you have plans or project to your people.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Lordhermes on April 18, 2023, 07:45:21 AM
You can only eliminate what you created, corruption is man made and we can all work together to eliminate it. It will take years to achieve it, we might not live to see it, but we have to build for the future. Corrupt people are now being celebrated today, corruption is now normal in our society today. Corrupt leaders present themselves for election and we keep voting for them. And we expect change from them,it's anormal to have corrupt leaders in power and still expect better life.
We must speak against corruption,from our home to school and in our work place, we should tell People they danger of it to the community. If we are United against the fight, would achieve it tomorrow, would have a free corruption society.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Dunamisx on April 18, 2023, 03:17:25 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?

Corruption is something bad that must be dealt with everywhere irrespective of the country or people involved, it's a habit that needed to be avoided by all means and if we leave a corruption free life, everyone will find joy in doing what he's doing and also be expectant to receive from the leaders we have that govern us, we should also deal with corruption from the grassroot level and let the upcoming generation be free from participating from it.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Myleschetty on April 18, 2023, 10:51:47 PM
You can only eliminate what you created, corruption is man made and we can all work together to eliminate it. It will take years to achieve it, we might not live to see it, but we have to build for the future. Corrupt people are now being celebrated today, corruption is now normal in our society today. Corrupt leaders present themselves for election and we keep voting for them. And we expect change from them,it's anormal to have corrupt leaders in power and still expect better life.
We must speak against corruption,from our home to school and in our work place, we should tell People they danger of it to the community. If we are United against the fight, would achieve it tomorrow, would have a free corruption society.
Like it or not. Corruption can not be eliminated, it can only be minimized cause it is everywhere even in this crypto space where we see some project owners abusing the benefit of blockchain and later running away with the investor's fund.
Glad you said corrupted people are now being celebrated and I believe this enough to know that corruption can be totally eradicated.




Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Lordhermes on April 20, 2023, 10:42:02 AM
You can only eliminate what you created, corruption is man made and we can all work together to eliminate it. It will take years to achieve it, we might not live to see it, but we have to build for the future. Corrupt people are now being celebrated today, corruption is now normal in our society today. Corrupt leaders present themselves for election and we keep voting for them. And we expect change from them,it's anormal to have corrupt leaders in power and still expect better life.
We must speak against corruption,from our home to school and in our work place, we should tell People they danger of it to the community. If we are United against the fight, would achieve it tomorrow, would have a free corruption society.
Like it or not. Corruption can not be eliminated, it can only be minimized cause it is everywhere even in this crypto space where we see some project owners abusing the benefit of blockchain and later running away with the investor's fund.
Glad you said corrupted people are now being celebrated and I believe this enough to know that corruption can be totally eradicated.



corrupt people are celebrated everywhere in the world, our custom and value system are dead. We're not longer awarding hard work in the society, so people are now indulging in corrupt practices to survive.
The only way to reduce corruption is to teach the Young generation the danger of corruption to the society


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: bosede1 on April 20, 2023, 08:39:53 PM
Ending corruption level may not be possible but reducing corruption practices will be; because you will be the one to choose your cabinet and you check every illegal practice, also you make it known in your propaganda and act what you stand for, even if anybody what to try any silly thing they will have you in mind and this will curtail their action


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Belarge on April 21, 2023, 08:24:06 PM
Corruption has been a day to day affair in our society today, infact corruption is now seen as a game in our society mostly in politics,Corruption is even one of the reasons why some government parastaters are even controlling governmental powers today because they bribe inec to rig election in their favour, I don't think any president can eradicate corruption, infact if they know you are not corrupt they won't even allow you collect that mantle of leadership as president,but if perhaps you get that mantle of leadership as president,this corrupt followers (Politicians)would fight you till the very end,they will fight till they make sure they frustrate your leadership, or might even kill you if opportuned, so to me I don't really think any president elected can stop corruption, though he might reduced corruption I think, but he can never eradicate corruption, NEVER...


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Lordhermes on April 22, 2023, 07:30:07 AM
Ending corruption level may not be possible but reducing corruption practices will be; because you will be the one to choose your cabinet and you check every illegal practice, also you make it known in your propaganda and act what you stand for, even if anybody what to try any silly thing they will have you in mind and this will curtail their action
we all know corruption is not something to be proud of, including the people involved in it. Is good we still have people who do not approve this bad practice.
If we can come together with the aim of putting it to an end, though it might not be completely stopped,but will be reduced to an observable extent.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Chilwell on April 22, 2023, 08:54:49 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.
For a new government coming into power to fight corruption where all the government officials are corrupted. It seems to be very hard for the new government, and solutions wouldn't be fast as possible. He just has to take certain measures by the reformation of the cabinets. Then set up a strong independent anti-corruption agency that will investigate the corruption cases. This agency should have the ability to prosecute, and also government should not interfere in the investigation process. New governments have to be sincere with their people by demonstrating zero tolerance approach to corruption.

Fighting corruption is not an easy task but with honesty, sincerity, accountability, transparency, commitment etc. With all this mentioned it will reduce if not drastically or a little bit compare to the previous governments.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Wiwo on April 22, 2023, 10:15:55 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
It will be an impossible task, for a nob to try to fight corruption althat is already systematically intended, I have had a few politicians with such a mindset that they will fight corruption but in the end, they become more corrupt themselves and that is the power of systematic corruption and the only way to deal with that form of corruption is a.total change of the existing systems, this may sound unrealistic but that is the only solution to curing the current class of corruption.

No matter how uncorrupted a politician is before winning an election, the system is always there to incubate him/her into the existing corrupt practices that have become the major challenges to our democratic development and growth as a nation and since there is no such thing as a national development policy that will serve as a guide to government officials actions and in action it becomes easier for corrupt elements to penetrate through any office holder no matter what his stand is with corruption.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: reizella28 on April 23, 2023, 06:56:29 AM
Corruption is already a common toxic thing in the government. Here in my country, you would notice that there's no improvements and innovations despite the fact that the citizens of the country pay their taxes. Those funds could be use for emergency, improvements of places and scholarships. Still corrupt members are in their positions in the government which makes us look clown like criminal activities they still have the role for the public. The only thing we could do to avoid and lessen corruption is to be honest plus report illicit activities.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: brother brother on April 23, 2023, 07:03:00 PM
Corruption is inevitable in any society but have different level some country are high, some are medium and other are at low rate, it has been existing among the individual, home, working place, economic sectors political and government, every aspect has been corrupted especially the third world countries. The rate of corruption in Africa is more high due to bad government, poor system and economy.

Other are money embezzlement of money use for the social infrastructure are been used or diverted to their personal account, they also struggle with poverty, poor road network, electricity, hospital and other social infrastructure and educational system. Which makes the masses or individual to manipulate and find any means to survive do to failure of the so-called government, leaders e.t.c. now  corruption has now been spread everywhere with young and old, poor and rich. But we can fight corruption if me and you say no to corruption.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: blockman on April 23, 2023, 11:23:50 PM
It's possible, but it will be more than his position that he needs to stop corruption. He needs the help of other people in the position of greater public posts to support him against this action.
When we're talking about corruption, it's already a business that's being passed on and making many more people involved because there's a huge chunk of the pie that needs to be shared. It won't be that easy and it will take a lot of years and terms before a genuine president annihilates all of the corrupt authorities in the public position. I don't want to lose hope that these corrupt people in the public post will be gone because they must be gone as they're like an obstacle to a country's progress and better lives for constituents.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Spontaneous on April 24, 2023, 02:14:11 AM
Fighting against corruption it's not an easy specially if 1 or 5 had a good vision and mission inside the house of politics. Corruption is one of the most problem in some  country, and it's really hard to predict if who are corrupting  cause they play in a nice a way to avoid any suspicious.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Yanalli on April 24, 2023, 06:54:48 AM
It is impossible to end corruption, everyone in power resorts to greed and it will be impossible to stop it. There is an expression "it's not the size of the bribe that pisses you off, but the inability to participate in it."


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on April 24, 2023, 09:59:34 AM
corrupt people are celebrated everywhere in the world, our custom and value system are dead. We're not longer awarding hard work in the society, so people are now indulging in corrupt practices to survive.
When you said corrupt people are celebrated, I was just about disputing the notion but, later thoughts on the fact makes me realise just how true its been looking at the recent concluding elections in my nation.

It was a tike where people chose to ignore the long run because of immediate benefits and what they hope to gain from the system once its set into motion. I can't imagine our conscience not appealing to ourselves but, the quest to gain and survive in our fast changing world seems to override every long term effect that might come from a corrupt system.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Newlifebtc on April 24, 2023, 10:08:56 PM
The only way corruption like this can  be defeated by a president who is different from other leaders who have served in the past, is if the citizens of that country can fully support and stand by their president. If other bad politicians sees that majority  of the citizens  are against corruption,  I think it will be tough for them to go against the president.
 Like in South Africa,  it was easy for Nelson Mandela  to fight for good governance because  he was fully supported by other citizens  of South Africa .
is it is it does not need to support a President before president is a good admission or take it as an in any fight because the president control everywhere it can use military or false to do anything I want to do without the citizen of the country order or arrangement so war only escalate when it get worst a country


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Desmong on April 24, 2023, 11:34:21 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
I call that playing because there is no way you could remove corruption when you yourself is corrupt.
Corruption is everywhere but it has a level when we know that this is too bad for a quick change to happen.
Things are happening so fast and we need to make sure everything is safe for everyone.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Hispo on April 25, 2023, 01:14:20 PM
It is impossible to end corruption, everyone in power resorts to greed and it will be impossible to stop it. There is an expression "it's not the size of the bribe that pisses you off, but the inability to participate in it."

Why so pessimistic, man?
Corruption can be fought and can be reduced, you may be right about Corruption being impossible to eliminate completely, but there are societies around the planet which have showed us good examples to make your cities and governments more transparent.

So perhaps it is more difficult in some countries than other but it does not mean it is a lost battle. I would personally be in favor of death penalty to high profile cases of corruption which involved high quantities of money, if it helps to clean society of such terrible problem. I know about the consequences of corruption, because I live in a country with many corrupt people in positions of power.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: iBaba on April 29, 2023, 08:23:49 AM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

I suggest that a lot of politicians tend to ignore the fact that charity begins at home, and the bedrock corruption begins with the leader and his lieutenants. Any leader who wants to run a successful government and fight corruption to its barest minimum must begin with himself, making sure that he has integrity and character of a good leader. He must also operate differently from the previous government thereby ensuring that he selects a purposeful cabinet with integrity too. His cabinet members in this case are his lieutenants.

A leader must also be upright and operates an open door policy. His policies must resonate with the needs of the followers and he must employ dynamic strategies to achieving his plans for his followers. That's who a president, a governor or a council Chairman should be. Especially in a democratic setting.

With money being the major causes of corruption, I'm still researching how, Bitcoin can be used by a government, to reduce corruption or corrupt practices.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Road21Bitcoin on April 29, 2023, 02:31:16 PM
No, a president, even if they are genuine in their intentions, cannot easily fight corruption that has seeped into every crevice of government and society that it was institutionalized and normalized. To really stop corruption, the system itself needs to be overhauled - either by removing everything that is touched by corruption or by revolution.

Even if the system is overhauled, there would always be opportunists who would take advantage of the temporary power vacuum to destroy any semblance of honest governance. Why? Because nothing could be gained from a corrupt-free government. History has shown us again and again, even on smaller scales, that there would always be people who thrive in chaos and corruption because there is money to be made from it and they would fight progress itself if it means getting more money.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Kelward on April 30, 2023, 05:49:31 PM
Be the change that you need. I believe that this should be the watch word for any one that wants to see a corrupt free society. It is easier to stay in the background and point fingers at people who are in power. It is not easy to be in a position of power where one can easily steal money and cover their tracks.

This is why we need to elect or a point people with proven integrity into power. Although this is not easy in economies that don't have credible electoral systems. Where you will see dishonest  people being elected into power.

As I said earlier, in your own little way, whether in your business, workplace or in an associations, let us try to be incorruptible. It start with you.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Ebede on May 01, 2023, 11:11:58 PM
The change we need today in the society in respect to corruption begins with us, we don't expect a corruption free society when we we encourage it in one way or the other but must time when you fight corruption with the apparatus you gat with all the strength in you it fights back with the apparatus and this always happens in government using law enforcement agencies that turn to be bad eggs.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Desmong on May 01, 2023, 11:40:14 PM
The fight against corrupt should be continued and should not be stopped because there are people that have the blood in them to corrupt other people without thinking twice. We need to make sure that we fight for our right and do the right thing and the right time so that will not affect some persons who may need our help to do some certain things.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Strongkored on May 02, 2023, 03:48:12 AM
The president will not be able to change his country with corruption into a clean country, because basically the law in that country makes a country full of corrupt officials, light punishment for each corruptor will never deter dirty officials from stopping, also the electoral system makes it very possible for politicians to continue to be corrupt, because politicians have to give a lot of money to their political parties so that they can be carried out in presidential and parliamentary elections and these politicians will try to take what he has spent with corruption after taking office.
The president must be supported by the legal system and law enforcers to give harsh punishments to corruptors so that it will have a deterrent effect, and in my country, an asset confiscation law will soon be passed for every public official who is proven to have committed corruption or when his assets multiply unreasonably, and hopefully this law will reduce the number of corruptors or at least when proven they will not stay rich and live in luxury.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: BADecker on May 02, 2023, 05:43:20 PM
The fight against corruption works by:
1. Obeying the Ten Commandments of the Bible;
2. Following the spirit of the 10 rather than only the laws;
3. Love people as you love yourself;
4. Do to others as you would have them do to you;
5. And see that those who are blatantly disobedient to the 10 are prosecuted for their crimes... made to repay those they harmed.

Start with yourself, and then the corrupt politicians who are liars.

8)


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Hispo on May 02, 2023, 07:28:15 PM
The fight against corruption works by:
1. Obeying the Ten Commandments of the Bible;
2. Following the spirit of the 10 rather than only the laws;
3. Love people as you love yourself;
4. Do to others as you would have them do to you;
5. And see that those who are blatantly disobedient to the 10 are prosecuted for their crimes... made to repay those they harmed.

Start with yourself, and then the corrupt politicians who are liars.

8)

I do not disagree with you, but we also need to keep in mind there are countries where Christianity or Judaism is not the dominant or most widespread religion, so these principles (which are based in the old testament) could not be applied in an easy way because they would not be in the same cultural realm of the nation.

For example, let us say that you are in charge of reducing the corruption in some Asian poor country, would not be hard to apply a religious approach there from the ground up if the population religion is completely different?


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: blockman on May 02, 2023, 08:52:52 PM
The fight against corrupt should be continued and should not be stopped because there are people that have the blood in them to corrupt other people without thinking twice. We need to make sure that we fight for our right and do the right thing and the right time so that will not affect some persons who may need our help to do some certain things.
Well, the fight shouldn't really be stopped but you know that this isn't just an easy battle for those who are standing in the front and showing themselves and their families that they're eager to eliminate corruption. But in countries where corruption is rampant, these whistleblowers and front liners are the ones that are having the collateral damage. The accused are going back against them and taking the revenge to the next level and that's to the point that they'll never like and they'll be silenced afterwards.

The fight against corruption works by:
1. Obeying the Ten Commandments of the Bible;
2. Following the spirit of the 10 rather than only the laws;
3. Love people as you love yourself;
4. Do to others as you would have them do to you;
5. And see that those who are blatantly disobedient to the 10 are prosecuted for their crimes... made to repay those they harmed.

Start with yourself, and then the corrupt politicians who are liars.

8)
I agree with all of that but everything changes when an official sits on his position and chair and sees something underneath his table.  ::)


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Ebede on May 08, 2023, 04:49:50 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
Fighting corruption in any country can be redeemed if a credible president said is what he wants to do, why corruption continue to spine in a country that is corrupted is because of godfather's, if a president who is corrupt succeeded planting a successor that means the country is still unbalance, the incoming person will like to act on the capacity of the previous leader.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Promocodeudo on May 11, 2023, 03:20:57 PM
There several institutions for fighting corruption, these is institutions should be strengthened by organizing frequent retreat in other to give them a standard orientation on what is applicable in their job. These institutions are as follow.

1. Judiciary
2. Legislature
3. The force in general both paramilitary
4. The electoral body

The Judiciary which is seen as the hope of the common man should be given total autonomy to act on their own without the influence of the executive or anybody to overturn the rule of law, in so doing every individual irrespective of how influential the person is, will be made to face the law depending on the stipulated punishment for such offense, any matter brought in the honourable court will be given adequate verdicts with favouritism for any side.

The legislature which is regarded as the law making body of any country should propose strict laws that prohibit vote buying, public funds embezzlement and so on and this laws should come with strict sanctions.

The force and paramilitary which serves as security and law enforce agency should be scrutinized frequently to erased the bad egg in the system in other to get effective enforcement of law without biased or compromised mindset, this institution has power in some cases to report whosoever that's is found wanting be it executive to the parliament for questioning which might possibly lead to impeachment if findings are clear that the person involved is the perpetrator of the crime being reported for also defending the country unity, the internal and external security should be of utmost important to this institution but this is dependent on the good information management and equipment available.

The electoral body, this body conducts and announce the winner of an election in any country, to me this body should be independent both in their budget for financing of the institution or the election itself and this should be done without any form of interference from the executive in other to avoid possible padding of the budget, this body has to work with the law enforcement agency to secretly investigate an individual which is interested in any position and if been found corrupt in any way should be disqualified and prosecuted this will yield a good result by eradicating vote buying and giving way for good governance by allowing the electorate to elect their preferred candidates by buying him or her for effective representation without any form of fair or intimidation.  

With all this be in good place both the president a country and other lower elective position like governor and parliamentarians will be careful in carrying out their duty as their position is required by law withoout any tendency to maltreatment if the citizen by depriving them their right to social amenities, like good road, schools, hospital, market and steady power supply.

With all these mentioned above I think we can enjoy a less corrupt society.



Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Lordhermes on May 13, 2023, 04:52:59 PM
Corruption is something no one can fight completely. but we can curtain it by learning about the danger of it to the community and society. corruption should be discouraged among the youths and children. these the future of the society, if we want to keep a free corrupt society,  But the real fear is that the youths are in ivolved in all kinds of corrupt practices. it will be hard to fight corruption in this generation, butwe must keep speaking against it.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Usasauki2004 on October 11, 2023, 09:10:52 AM
The only way corruption like this can  be defeated by a president who is different from other leaders who have served in the past, is if the citizens of that country can fully support and stand by their president. If other bad politicians sees that majority  of the citizens  are against corruption,  I think it will be tough for them to go against the president.
 Like in South Africa,  it was easy for Nelson Mandela  to fight for good governance because  he was fully supported by other citizens  of South Africa .

That was then, the citizens of then differs from nowadays citizens. And the government differs again. Meaning, the kind of people on government sit now are heartless and doesn't have human sympathy.
Everyone on government sit are swallowed by corruption and they can do anything possible just to maintain that because of there selfish interest from president down to the lower positions. The citizens are on their own and can't even protest against them, small protest now you will see forces (police, army and other para military) dispatched to disrupt the peaceful protest.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Baki202 on October 11, 2023, 10:53:32 AM
Corruption is something no one can fight completely. but we can curtain it by learning about the danger of it to the community and society. corruption should be discouraged among the youths and children. these the future of the society, if we want to keep a free corrupt society,  But the real fear is that the youths are in ivolved in all kinds of corrupt practices. it will be hard to fight corruption in this generation, butwe must keep speaking against it.
It is very difficult to actually flush out corruption in that sector because it involves so many people with different personalities. Because older generations have not set a good example for the younger generations, the latter have chosen to participate in corruption despite its negative effects. Since the older once have already failed them. And if you go around the government building, all you see are elderly people, and the kids' sole concern right now is fraud, not anything else. The leaders aren't even willing to give the youths another chance to lead.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: uchegod-21 on October 16, 2023, 09:02:16 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
Fighting corruption in any country can be redeemed if a credible president said is what he wants to do, why corruption continue to spine in a country that is corrupted is because of godfather's, if a president who is corrupt succeeded planting a successor that means the country is still unbalance, the incoming person will like to act on the capacity of the previous leader.

One person alone cannot fight corruption, especially in a system that has been corrupt for decades. Corruption is a canker worm that has eaten deep into almost every household. Out of 100%, only a tiny percentage of the people can boldly say they do not  engage in corrupt practices. We in one way or the other encourage corruption yet still blame the government for being corrupt.  We all have at some points encouraged tribalism,  nepotism,  favoritism , godfatherism etc. We only tag it bad when it does not favour us.
The president alone cannot stop thousands of people from promoting corruption. Only the few that are caught face the consequences while the majority not caught blame the culprits  for not being careful.

Fight against corruption is a collective effort.  If the president is good and the masses are corrupt,  it will be difficult for one man to achieve a corrupt free society. While blaming the government,  we too as citizens need to refrain from all forms of corrupt so the fight will not be in vain.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Hispo on October 17, 2023, 11:21:02 PM
Corruption is something no one can fight completely. but we can curtain it by learning about the danger of it to the community and society. corruption should be discouraged among the youths and children. these the future of the society, if we want to keep a free corrupt society,  But the real fear is that the youths are in ivolved in all kinds of corrupt practices. it will be hard to fight corruption in this generation, butwe must keep speaking against it.

I believe the best way to discourage anyone from partaking in corrupt activities would be to implement harsher punishment upon those caught commiting those crimes and then, make their trials and sentences to be widely known nationwide, so anyone would know what would happen to them if they get involved as well.

Though, fighting corruption in such drastic way would require a political administration with much transparency so their actions on combating corrupt officials or private entities would not be pointed out as an act of double standard. Someone once said that if one is willing to fight corruption, then that means to be willing to imprison one's own family and friends.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Gozie51 on October 19, 2023, 02:22:14 PM
Corruption is something no one can fight completely. but we can curtain it by learning about the danger of it to the community and society. corruption should be discouraged among the youths and children. these the future of the society, if we want to keep a free corrupt society,  But the real fear is that the youths are in ivolved in all kinds of corrupt practices. it will be hard to fight corruption in this generation, butwe must keep speaking against it.

I believe the best way to discourage anyone from partaking in corrupt activities would be to implement harsher punishment upon those caught commiting those crimes and then, make their trials and sentences to be widely known nationwide, so anyone would know what would happen to them if they get involved as well.

Though, fighting corruption in such drastic way would require a political administration with much transparency so their actions on combating corrupt officials or private entities would not be pointed out as an act of double standard. Someone once said that if one is willing to fight corruption, then that means to be willing to imprison one's own family and friends.

I believe every country has a very strict, harsh and appropriate punishment for corrupt practices but then it is also same corruption that make offenders to be let free at the end of the day. But if such laws and their punishment will be followed in letters then the spate of corruption will disappear.

Like in Nigeria for instance if you are a president or governor, there is immunity that covers some corrupt practices against you and you will never be tried. To me that is fragrant abuse of power because such officer will rely on such immunity to perpetrate some heinous crimes against humanity after all no court will try him in office. So it takes a political will to stop corruption by adequately punishing offenders without fear, favour or affinity.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Dunamisx on October 19, 2023, 03:26:07 PM
This is why we need to elect or a point people with proven integrity into power. Although this is not easy in economies that don't have credible electoral systems. Where you will see dishonest  people being elected into power.

Political aspirants cannot be trusted until they emerge into office before we can truly know their colour, we know people that once they are planning to embark on a political journey, they try to appear being an honest person and shows the highest level of integrity just because they are having target to meet on their personal agenda, we cannot fully trust people like that especially when they are having intentions for a political ambition, just because they have money but lack the qualifications to emerge into office, people voted them in because of their money and not integrity, why wouldn't they be corrupted.

As I said earlier, in your own little way, whether in your business, workplace or in an associations, let us try to be incorruptible. It start with you.

Perfect solution, the change begins with everyone of us now.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: AYOBA on October 20, 2023, 06:52:59 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
It is going to be extremely difficult for this new president to fight corruption because, even his despite intentions, to fight against corruption those who stand by him will try to persuade him and ultimately, what do we think will happen? I think it will eventually fall into their trap, since there are so many parties engaged, the corruption in the nation, it will regrettably continue.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Chilwell on October 20, 2023, 09:15:28 PM
The fight against corrupt should be continued and should not be stopped because there are people that have the blood in them to corrupt other people without thinking twice. We need to make sure that we fight for our right and do the right thing and the right time so that will not affect some persons who may need our help to do some certain things.
The main reason why corruption still live with us is that their is not proper measure on dealing with it. To stop corruption it have to be individuals action which is expected to start from us, but the best way I think is to execute any one that is cut going the act and should be seriously punish with out any delay and in a public place where other will witness the punishment and that will serve as lesson to the public, and also mention to them that any one who try to copy the victim shall be punish like this too. To also help in stopping corruption the country have to make available some of penalties for some offences.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Wiwo on October 20, 2023, 10:27:00 PM
Corruption is something no one can fight completely. but we can curtain it by learning about the danger of it to the community and society. corruption should be discouraged among the youths and children. these the future of the society, if we want to keep a free corrupt society,  But the real fear is that the youths are in ivolved in all kinds of corrupt practices. it will be hard to fight corruption in this generation, butwe must keep speaking against it.
sometime I can't stop but to ask myself weather or not corruption was created in the system of human and the only way out is for the formulation of a systematic approach to governmental affairs,  instead of relying on human formulated governmental policies that have failed a number of time now.

Bit if ther be a system in place that run the government then kt will become an optional or unavailable room for human leadership in government,  this is the only way to get rid of corruption in all totality and make sure to always place the interest of the people first.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Gaza13 on October 25, 2023, 02:30:38 PM
I believe the best way to discourage anyone from partaking in corrupt activities would be to implement harsher punishment upon those caught commiting those crimes and then, make their trials and sentences to be widely known nationwide, so anyone would know what would happen to them if they get involved as well.

Though, fighting corruption in such drastic way would require a political administration with much transparency so their actions on combating corrupt officials or private entities would not be pointed out as an act of double standard. Someone once said that if one is willing to fight corruption, then that means to be willing to imprison one's own family and friends.
I agree with your last quote, this is what happens in my country. In my country every candidate cannot run individually for president. There are several regulations that regulate that every citizen must be obliged to join a political party. Yes, if we are part of a political party, of course we will follow the directions of the party leader. And even if he becomes president, he is not free to make decisions about members committing corruption because there are relatives in it. Even though there are examples from other countries where the death penalty is discovered, in my country it is not implemented and translated into Human Rights. This is the root of every country's problem in fighting corruption. Why not just eradicate people like this, this has done a lot of harm to the country and others.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Suzume on October 26, 2023, 06:08:23 PM
It's a kind of dream fight against corruption in our country. Corruption is everyone people use corrupted where to get success easily. Not the normal person connected corruption the high class person such as politician businessman etc are corrupted to get success easily. You can't fight against the correction because everyone is connected with another if you want to fight against a person who connect with corruption then the other person will try to hide it or save the person you are against. In our country you can see that the small person to have very high class person such as postman to a prime minister both are connected with corruption if you are try to talk against them then they will take action on you. We are just normal person we can see what happening beside us we can tell anything and can't do anything against corruption. That's the reason I am saying that fight against corruption in Bangladesh it's a dream.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Richbased on November 04, 2023, 03:20:56 AM
sometime I can't stop but to ask myself weather or not corruption was created in the system of human and the only way out is for the formulation of a systematic approach to governmental affairs,  instead of relying on human formulated governmental policies that have failed a number of time now.
Of a truth, corruption starts from the mindset of an individual because as soon as the mind (reasoning) is corrupt, every other path of your lifestyle seems to work in consonant with your mind so just as you said and I quote that systematic approach to government affairs needs to be followed as that is the only way to curb corruption from the mindset because whoever is occupying a government position will gear towards the lay down roles of how government functions ought to be handled.




Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Publictalk792 on November 04, 2023, 08:06:35 AM
Of a truth, corruption starts from the mindset of an individual because as soon as the mind (reasoning) is corrupt, every other path of your lifestyle seems to work in consonant with your mind so just as you said and I quote that systematic approach to government affairs needs to be followed as that is the only way to curb corruption from the mindset because whoever is occupying a government position will gear towards the lay down roles of how government functions ought to be handled.
Corruption is now penetrated in the blood of some people which is not easy pull out. If we go in any institution we will that not a higher grade officer is corrupt but you also see that the lower grade persons are also corrupted.
We can eliminate the corruption if we will improve ourselves like if I will improve my self and will never do corruption so others will also think about it. Otherwise it will increase and never decrease.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: boyptc on November 04, 2023, 09:16:00 AM
A good president might not be corrupt but if his executives and other officials are literally corrupt, it's like that the rust from those people will also be sent and stained on him.

The sad truth with corrupt countries, it's like it's embedded on their system and became a norm where a normal citizen won't be surprise if it's discussed as if it's a normal thing happens in their government.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Hewlet on November 04, 2023, 08:23:34 PM
To end corruption is not something a single individual can just decide that it is enough and then corruption will just come to an end. It has to come from a gradual process and conscious steps that are coming from the side of the leaders and the leaders before corruption can be reduced to a reasonable extent.

Even if a president has great plans and policy that is aimed at eliminating corruption, you have to understand that he can't work all my himself to make this a reality. He has to work with his governor, senator, assembly members and so many other of his board members that might be also corrupt and will do any thing possible to resist whatever change the president proposes.

We've not even considered the corruption that has eaten deep into the life of the average citizen and the religion and social organisation leaders, how can we correct or whipe away such corruption?

The fight to end corruption is a responsiblety of all although I doubt corruption can be brought to an end


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: uchegod-21 on November 05, 2023, 07:14:38 PM
A good president might not be corrupt but if his executives and other officials are literally corrupt, it's like that the rust from those people will also be sent and stained on him.

The sad truth with corrupt countries, it's like it's embedded on their system and became a norm where a normal citizen won't be surprise if it's discussed as if it's a normal thing happens in their government.

Well said
Same people who are complaining about corruption at the top are facilitating the spread of corruption. Especially here in Africa,  corruption is a normal practice.  If you are not corrupt, you won't get certain benefits you would have gotten on a fair ground.

Before the fight against corruption can be successful,  the whole system has to be cleansed which is somehow impossible because you cannot force humans to change.
I personally think the fight against corruption is an impossible task.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Richbased on November 11, 2023, 05:30:08 PM
Nobody can fight corruption, instead corruption will fight the person. In Nigeria, Mangu, the former "Economic and Financial Crime Commission" boss, was arrested for corruption.


Corruption is as old as man.
You made me laugh by saying instead of anyone to fight corruption that corruption has to fight the person, indeed corruption has really ravaged our society but regardless we still need to find measures by which we can fight this corruption that has eaten deep in the mindset of so many individuals. Though it is not really gonna be easy but i think it is necessary we start looking for ways to fight corruption because if we continue in this nature I wonder what the next generation will look like. Where there is corruption it is difficult to experience progress and development in that area because there would be different opinions that may go contrary to achieving a solid thing that will better the individuals of that particular environment.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Baki202 on November 12, 2023, 08:59:00 AM
A good president might not be corrupt but if his executives and other officials are literally corrupt, it's like that the rust from those people will also be sent and stained on him.

The sad truth with corrupt countries, it's like it's embedded on their system and became a norm where a normal citizen won't be surprise if it's discussed as if it's a normal thing happens in their government.
The members of the cabinet many of them are always corrupt, and are always behind every corruption in that country and the president wi be aware but it is now looking as their is nothing he can do about it. But I have one believe no politician is a saint all of them are the same with their corrupt practices and always have the same habit of deceiving people to get them voted,  country like ours is so corrupt that it is not a new thing again to us, they steal and keep stealing. Till when they will die.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: btc78 on November 12, 2023, 09:37:32 AM
A good president might not be corrupt but if his executives and other officials are literally corrupt, it's like that the rust from those people will also be sent and stained on him.

The sad truth with corrupt countries, it's like it's embedded on their system and became a norm where a normal citizen won't be surprise if it's discussed as if it's a normal thing happens in their government.
The members of the cabinet many of them are always corrupt, and are always behind every corruption in that country and the president wi be aware but it is now looking as their is nothing he can do about it. But I have one believe no politician is a saint all of them are the same with their corrupt practices and always have the same habit of deceiving people to get them voted,  country like ours is so corrupt that it is not a new thing again to us, they steal and keep stealing. Till when they will die.

there are good-willed politicians but it doesn’t mean they’re 100% clean so it’s important that even if you support a politician you should never idolize them and we should be able to criticize the government accordingly

in our country, corruption is almost, if not already, the norm it’s so bad that we just want to pick the lesser evil still i am wishing for politicians who can give justice to the country and to its people


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Nerdy doctor on November 12, 2023, 11:45:00 AM


As I said earlier, in your own little way, whether in your business, workplace or in an associations, let us try to be incorruptible. It start with you.

If only it was that easy. People can be hypocritical and two faced. Always giving out the appearance of someone who is trust worthy and calling out the supposed corrupt ones.
But you’re right. It would be nice if we could be the change we want to be in the society. But not everyone can be just and true. Some people would always be greedy and corrupt. As the bad apples in the society would then corrupt others who would easily be influenced due to hardship. 


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Hispo on November 12, 2023, 07:07:05 PM
You know, I have always thought there is some weird relation between corruption and religions which are prominent in some societies, while they are non-existant in other. For example, we all know that most of religions, specially those Abramic ones (Judaism, Islam and Christianity) teach people not to lie or not to corrupt themselves, always to seek to do good to others, in short.
So we could assume that the most religious a country is, the less corruption we are supposed to find, right?
Still, we see that in Latin America (where Christianity is very prevalent) corruption is widespread, I am not sure why. I have never been in a country whether the other of those religions are the majority, so I cannot say whether it is different in Saudi Arabia or Israel.

A good example of the inconsistency of this is also how many Mafia members and Mafia bosses in Italy are very religious (Catholic) and yet, they willingly participate in organized crime. I do not understand whether all this is just about hipocresy or something else.
What are your thoughts?


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Jchris50 on November 15, 2023, 04:36:43 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?

If a new elect president is to fight it he will if only is not like the others who are corrupt


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: yazher on November 16, 2023, 01:02:22 PM
A good president might not be corrupt but if his executives and other officials are literally corrupt, it's like that the rust from those people will also be sent and stained on him.

The sad truth with corrupt countries, it's like it's embedded on their system and became a norm where a normal citizen won't be surprise if it's discussed as if it's a normal thing happens in their government.

People most likely believe whatever their leaders promised them and I can say this is true because in our community, the Election was just finished two weeks ago, and the leader that leading our community has been leading for over 20 years without any major improvement linked to his government rather you can see in his house that it became a mansion and he has lots of vehicles and wives. thankfully he was replaced by a new Leader who is capable of improving this place because he is a millionaire. But that's all I can say because, without any results or changes, we cannot say that he is better than the former leader.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Suzume on November 16, 2023, 04:42:29 PM
Fight again collection just a waste of time. In our society not society in our country everywhere if you want to be a successful person you must connect with corruption because without high level power and those type of person who connect with corruption they will not give you a chance for growing up without getting their benefit. That's the reason a person want to success in life automatically choose correct way to get success and don't think about fight against corruption because they have a family and they want to give their family a good life.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Gozie51 on November 17, 2023, 04:12:12 PM
Fight again collection just a waste of time. In our society not society in our country everywhere if you want to be a successful person you must connect with corruption because without high level power and those type of person who connect with corruption they will not give you a chance for growing up without getting their benefit. That's the reason a person want to success in life automatically choose correct way to get success and don't think about fight against corruption because they have a family and they want to give their family a good life.

Country with such corrupt mentality goes no where in the world because they keep retrogressing while those less corrupt keep going higher and I feel this is about the African society. Corruption is a very bad monster that has refused to go in Africa. The leaders keep bringing their family back to power, hopefully maybe some fresh air will be seen with the rate of military take over of power in some of the west African countries. If the military don't go back to the corrupt regime, then maybe they will set the pace for African development.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Bushdark on November 17, 2023, 07:08:56 PM
sometime I can't stop but to ask myself weather or not corruption was created in the system of human and the only way out is for the formulation of a systematic approach to governmental affairs,  instead of relying on human formulated governmental policies that have failed a number of time now.
Of a truth, corruption starts from the mindset of an individual because as soon as the mind (reasoning) is corrupt, every other path of your lifestyle seems to work in consonant with your mind so just as you said and I quote that systematic approach to government affairs needs to be followed as that is the only way to curb corruption from the mindset because whoever is occupying a government position will gear towards the lay down roles of how government functions ought to be handled.



Fighting against corruption can be very difficult when the people that are in the government seat who are expected to do the work and fight against others that are in corruption are not doing anything about it, so do we intend to fight corruption ourselves without the government being involved. Fighting corruption should be from the top which is people on the government not from the masses. If the masses want a less or non corrupt government, the process would be difficult to achieve which could take a lot if lives.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Y3shot on November 28, 2023, 06:03:08 AM

Fighting against corruption can be very difficult when the people that are in the government seat who are expected to do the work and fight against others that are in corruption are not doing anything about it, so do we intend to fight corruption ourselves without the government being involved. Fighting corruption should be from the top which is people on the government not from the masses. If the masses want a less or non corrupt government, the process would be difficult to achieve which could take a lot if lives.
The only way this fight can be easy for the masses is if they can be able to choose their own leader through electoral process,  a leader that is sure can be able to walk and fight against corruption. If a corrupt leaders are elected into office  it is impossible to fight corruption.  The only way to fight corruption is to support a leader who alreafy have good reputation. The problem that tge masses do have they don't really look into the leadedx they support,  some of them support blindly and when they end up electing a corrupt leader they start complaining.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: passwordnow on November 28, 2023, 08:53:46 AM
A genuine president? maybe there's going to be a change with the process and belief in the process of the government agencies where the president has full control and can say a lot of things to their policies and can make a memo to change them if there's corruption being found there.

It is likely that whoever sits on the chair of the president and prime minister has the idea of how it goes with their political system and if there's corruption happening. That's why I admire those countries that have honest public servants and they're giving the best to their citizens. IMHO, it can be lessened but there will still be slightest type of corruption whether they like it or not.

But as they sit on the chair of presidency, they can make a change and that's going to give the thought of the citizens that the government has always been corrupt and once they see the changes, they'll also love the public and governance of whoever sits there.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Miles2006 on November 28, 2023, 09:22:20 AM

Fighting against corruption can be very difficult when the people that are in the government seat who are expected to do the work and fight against others that are in corruption are not doing anything about it, so do we intend to fight corruption ourselves without the government being involved. Fighting corruption should be from the top which is people on the government not from the masses. If the masses want a less or non corrupt government, the process would be difficult to achieve which could take a lot if lives.
The only way this fight can be easy for the masses is if they can be able to choose their own leader through electoral process,  a leader that is sure can be able to walk and fight against corruption. If a corrupt leaders are elected into office  it is impossible to fight corruption.  The only way to fight corruption is to support a leader who alreafy have good reputation. The problem that tge masses do have they don't really look into the leadedx they support,  some of them support blindly and when they end up electing a corrupt leader they start complaining.
I will not put all the blame on the masses in an election period now when the country is corrupt, the military or the police is corrupt, how can the election be free and fair, if the country is corrupt the election system too will be corrupt. Sometimes the masses vote and they choose their right choice but when a free and fair election is not conducted then the leader will be corrupt. To fight corruption in a country is impossible it takes a lot of sacrifice and dedication to fight corruption and the worst part is leaders nowadays don't care to fight against corruption.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Essential10 on November 28, 2023, 11:13:54 AM
I don't think there is a corruption free country in the world. Curbing corruption is indeed a difficult task, and it is true that no government can eradicate it completely. Corruption is deeply embedded in many societies and can take many forms, from bribery and embezzlement to nepotism and cronyism. However, this does not mean that efforts to fight corruption are futile. Governments can implement policies and programs aimed at increasing transparency, accountability and oversight, which can help reduce the incidence of corruption. These may include measures such as enforcing stricter anti-corruption laws, promoting ethical behavior in public institutions, and empowering independent oversight bodies. For the public to be actively involved in the fight against corruption by demanding transparency from their leaders and holding them accountable for their actions. I think corruption can be reduced to a large extent but it is impossible to eradicate it completely.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Dunamisx on November 28, 2023, 05:15:23 PM
Everyone is trying to show their displeasure against corruption, but are we not corrupt ourselves, in the little way we are living our own lives with others in the society that no ones knows about some certain things, are we just being the same image of an incorruptible person even amidst of the corrupt environment we are living, we often figure out the leaders as the only corrupt people which is totally wrong, every injustice we do in live with those around us is an act of being corrupted.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: o48o on November 28, 2023, 10:22:18 PM
You know, I have always thought there is some weird relation between corruption and religions which are prominent in some societies, while they are non-existant in other. For example, we all know that most of religions, specially those Abramic ones (Judaism, Islam and Christianity) teach people not to lie or not to corrupt themselves, always to seek to do good to others, in short.
So we could assume that the most religious a country is, the less corruption we are supposed to find, right?
Still, we see that in Latin America (where Christianity is very prevalent) corruption is widespread, I am not sure why. I have never been in a country whether the other of those religions are the majority, so I cannot say whether it is different in Saudi Arabia or Israel.

A good example of the inconsistency of this is also how many Mafia members and Mafia bosses in Italy are very religious (Catholic) and yet, they willingly participate in organized crime. I do not understand whether all this is just about hipocresy or something else.
What are your thoughts?
Because just moral guidelines based on belief aren't enough to build a society. Religious values aren't optimal for removing corruption, in fact quite the opposite. Churches are part of scandals all the time. And even if there would be good moral teachings some people would follow, forgiveness loophole gives you an excuse to do anything in the end.
Rules and regulations forced by law and transparency are way more effective. But that doesn't suite everyone as that more accountability also means more surveillance and less privacy.
At least by current standards. Things could change when we crack scaling of zero knowledge proof to be used in IDs and contracts. I know that won't suite everyone either, but removing corruption has cost something.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Hispo on November 29, 2023, 12:47:03 AM
You know, I have always thought there is some weird relation between corruption and religions which are prominent in some societies, while they are non-existant in other. For example, we all know that most of religions, specially those Abramic ones (Judaism, Islam and Christianity) teach people not to lie or not to corrupt themselves, always to seek to do good to others, in short.
So we could assume that the most religious a country is, the less corruption we are supposed to find, right?
Still, we see that in Latin America (where Christianity is very prevalent) corruption is widespread, I am not sure why. I have never been in a country whether the other of those religions are the majority, so I cannot say whether it is different in Saudi Arabia or Israel.

A good example of the inconsistency of this is also how many Mafia members and Mafia bosses in Italy are very religious (Catholic) and yet, they willingly participate in organized crime. I do not understand whether all this is just about hipocresy or something else.
What are your thoughts?
Because just moral guidelines based on belief aren't enough to build a society. Religious values aren't optimal for removing corruption, in fact quite the opposite. Churches are part of scandals all the time. And even if there would be good moral teachings some people would follow, forgiveness loophole gives you an excuse to do anything in the end.
Rules and regulations forced by law and transparency are way more effective. But that doesn't suite everyone as that more accountability also means more surveillance and less privacy.
At least by current standards. Things could change when we crack scaling of zero knowledge proof to be used in IDs and contracts. I know that won't suite everyone either, but removing corruption has cost something.

We could argue on the difference between the centralization of transparency between a government and a church, by the way. In our society where the information and the transparency is supposed to be handled by a government we are supposed to trust is not that different from the trust people may have on religious authorities for them to guide the life of those who attend to pray.
It would be easier if decentralized systems were the norm and anyone could verify the information about anyone, regardless of their position within society.
The Blockchain does not give preferences to the rich or the poor, anyone can verify in the same manner. But we should wonder as well, how we would be supposed to handle privacy, since we all have the right to it.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: BADecker on December 01, 2023, 03:43:18 PM
The fact that the government doesn't want to tell us the truth about UFOs, has to do with corruption. Watch how in this video.
 
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Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Bushdark on December 03, 2023, 09:56:22 AM
Everyone is trying to show their displeasure against corruption, but are we not corrupt ourselves, in the little way we are living our own lives with others in the society that no ones knows about some certain things, are we just being the same image of an incorruptible person even amidst of the corrupt environment we are living, we often figure out the leaders as the only corrupt people which is totally wrong, every injustice we do in live with those around us is an act of being corrupted.
Can corruption finally ends? No I don't think this would ever happens. The world is becoming so uncomfortable and many of our politicians from different countries are trying to get to the seat by all means which is one of the ways things are getting so tough and competitive with the mindset to do anything to get to the higher rank. We have corruption ranging from the government to the private sectors and to the streets where the average men do things and commit crime getting away with it without any justification.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Volimack on December 03, 2023, 12:02:06 PM
It is not possible to end corruption it is not only difficult but impossible to reduce corruption in a country where the policy makers and responsible persons indirectly advocate corruption without having a specific action plan to fight corruption. A lot can be said from frustration. But it is the job of the responsible people to take initiative and force the government to take initiative to remove the reasons that created that frustration. But adapting to the situation without doing that accepting corruption and pushing the society and the state towards more corruption cannot be a responsible behavior in any way.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Marykeller on December 05, 2023, 09:00:17 PM
If the system of government of a country is bad, will I say it's impossible or hard for a genuine President to end corruption no matter how best he tries to do it in his first or second tenure.

The corruption we are talking about should be the corruption that has been embedded in a country for years and a single genuine person wants to stop a corrupt practice that thousands of beings are into without being frustrated out of his agenda to better the country he rules to be less corrupt.

A corrupt country will find it difficult to elect a genuine president as its president. Even though a genuine president is elected, the country's ministers who are corrupt would like to work against him to bring down his mission to fight against corrupt practices.
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Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Dunamisx on December 06, 2023, 02:37:51 PM
It is not possible to end corruption it is not only difficult but impossible to reduce corruption in a country where the policy makers and responsible persons indirectly advocate corruption without having a specific action plan to fight corruption. A lot can be said from frustration. But it is the job of the responsible people to take initiative and force the government to take initiative to remove the reasons that created that frustration. But adapting to the situation without doing that accepting corruption and pushing the society and the state towards more corruption cannot be a responsible behavior in any way.

You're right, we cannot end corruption thesame way we cannot stopped evils from happening, but when we are involved in doing them, then we've gone against the normal expectations on how we should live or behave, corruption is what would have been as a result of our advanced indiscipline from the way we live our lives, we must all know that despite there's corruption everywhere, we are to exempt ourselves from them and those involved in this kind of act.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: jojoalex on December 06, 2023, 10:50:01 PM
At this point of time it's not a matter of president but the population as a whole , everyone is corrupted , and the least we can do is start by fixing ourselves


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Seinlocko on December 07, 2023, 02:55:51 AM
If you want to truly eradicate the chains of corruption in a country, the role of the president alone will not be strong enough to succeed. Because, it is possible that many of the President's subordinates are conspiring to commit corruption (ministers, council members, and so on). Therefore, to break the chain of corruption, solidarity and firmness are needed from all levels of government and society. Because if you only rely on one president, I don't think you will be able to do it. Therefore, solidarity must be implemented.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Bushdark on December 07, 2023, 07:22:57 PM
If you want to truly eradicate the chains of corruption in a country, the role of the president alone will not be strong enough to succeed. Because, it is possible that many of the President's subordinates are conspiring to commit corruption (ministers, council members, and so on). Therefore, to break the chain of corruption, solidarity and firmness are needed from all levels of government and society. Because if you only rely on one president, I don't think you will be able to do it. Therefore, solidarity must be implemented.
Corruption is her to stay and we should not even think for eradicating it because we all are humans. We can reduce it be we cants stop it finally. There are people that are born in corruption and they can't depart from it because they live and abide by it..
This is why their are sufferings and unemployment everywhere because the government of many countries are corrupt and not ready to do what will make their citizens to have a good life and live comfortably.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Y3shot on December 08, 2023, 06:36:32 AM
Everyone is trying to show their displeasure against corruption, but are we not corrupt ourselves, in the little way we are living our own lives with others in the society that no ones knows about some certain things, are we just being the same image of an incorruptible person even amidst of the corrupt environment we are living, we often figure out the leaders as the only corrupt people which is totally wrong, every injustice we do in live with those around us is an act of being corrupted.
When the government compromise with the laws what do you expect from the common citizens, if the government can stop corruption and make the law not to be fragile that anybody can toy with people respect themselves and have no choice than practice the law. You can expect common citizens to be free from corruption when the whole system of the government is corrupt.  When the government is corruption becomes a system that every citizen will practice to gain their own benefits.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: montaga on December 09, 2023, 04:34:10 PM
............in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.



Corruption is deep rooted and been happening for a looong time.
https://youtu.be/pAVXoSFVKsY


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Gozie51 on December 09, 2023, 06:57:41 PM
Everyone is trying to show their displeasure against corruption, but are we not corrupt ourselves, in the little way we are living our own lives with others in the society that no ones knows about some certain things, are we just being the same image of an incorruptible person even amidst of the corrupt environment we are living, we often figure out the leaders as the only corrupt people which is totally wrong, every injustice we do in live with those around us is an act of being corrupted.
When the government compromise with the laws what do you expect from the common citizens, if the government can stop corruption and make the law not to be fragile that anybody can toy with people respect themselves and have no choice than practice the law. You can expect common citizens to be free from corruption when the whole system of the government is corrupt.  When the government is corruption becomes a system that every citizen will practice to gain their own benefits.

Government is the first culprit of corruption. When we say government, it means those persons at the corridors of power, those that have been elected or selected in the higher leadership echelon of the country. They are given the responsibility to run the affairs of the country and if they fail to do this it means they have corrupted the system.

One way to ensure that the country is not corrupt is to follow the law but those in government don't apply the law on themselves, family or cronies and that makes impunity to take over the country. But if government will be serious to cleanse themselves of impunity and corruption then they can sanitize the country by following and applying the laws on every offender. Most countries have good laws but it is the implementation of the laws that is the challenge.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Y3shot on December 10, 2023, 09:59:26 AM
............in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.



Corruption is deep rooted and been happening for a looong time.
https://youtu.be/pAVXoSFVKsY
Corruption is very dip that it can't be totally buried in every government. Their are reasons the government is always curuppt is because the taste for power and the money they see in the government,  this things makes them to forget where there are coming from and where they are going to. In every government their is little element of Corruption but some government are disguising  to be pure and of you check well they are  not pure.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Churchillvv on December 12, 2023, 09:29:57 PM
Fighting corruption can never be easy, because how do we determine a good politician from the bad ones where all of them are I the same party agitating for power for the party sake not for their own sake or the citizens. Tho it varies depending on your country like my country it very very low to stop corruption it now like a second name to the country.
If there could be a politician without a Godfather then the possibility will increase.
The major problem is the majority of a nation, from the smallest sector of nation corruption has erred it. How can a taxi man be so corrupt that he carry's only those whom he thinks has money. How then do we manage this people  apart from the leaders almost everyone in my country is corrupted. Not to mention of the forces if you don't have the so called connection your lost already. There is more to talk about but I will end here.

I usually have a thought in my head to stop corruption in my country but I won't share this taught in public like this forum though I have privacy but not enough. But also think if we deal with the smaller corruption the big ones will surrender.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Jenwi on December 14, 2023, 05:22:01 AM
Fighting corruption will not be easy in Nigeria. The only way is to wipe all this politicians and replace them with young people. Because the police, army, judiciary, INEC, legislature all the govt parastatals are corruption not exclude our EFCC.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: encryptogon on December 15, 2023, 03:01:45 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?

When the whole system is corrupt, things are not easy to sort. If a person is genuinely concerned and wanted to end the corruption from his country, it will take a lot of time and courage and task still seems impossible. It might take at least two decades to put the country on the right track. If a person is corrupt, he can be easily managed for political motives. So, why end corruption, when you can rule them without any trouble.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Churchillvv on December 15, 2023, 06:21:53 PM
Fighting corruption will not be easy in Nigeria. The only way is to wipe all this politicians and replace them with young people. Because the police, army, judiciary, INEC, legislature all the govt parastatals are corruption not exclude our EFCC.
Wiping away this politicians and replacing them with young ones will not still solve the problem of Nigeria because corruption is deep and rooted in the system. There are other ways which have been proposed to stop corruption but it has not been working because of the grass root leaders. If you wish to fight corruption in country like Nigeria and you make it open then you're a threat and every threat must be wipe away which means you life is I your hands.
Even the young people are corrupt to an extent that no matter what you say to them it will not be their problem as far as Godfatherism still exist.
In my article about Nigeria Godfatherism was one of the major issue because everyone in politics but young and old has a Godfather that decides what will happen and if you oppose this decision then you loss your position. Use the recent case in Rivers State where the ex governor still want to make decisions for the state because his godson is in position (The so called godson is a young man too) so it doesn't matter the age as far as there is Godfatherism the system can't change.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Mate2237 on December 15, 2023, 08:16:04 PM
It is very much easy for a newly elected president to deal with corruption and rid away with it. If only the president is to to work and I to join the fey Oligarchy. He has to use the political will to restructure every sector and departments in the country. And in Africa there is no such president found in any state or country. The president that is dully elected by the people will have the full support of the people and when the clean up of the corrupt leaders the people and the military must support the president to carry out the tasks.

In Nigeria we don't a president that have the political will to do good services to the people instead we have the government of the few and government of the thugs. Yes the wealthy politicians will like to use the youths to fight against the youths again, but if the large number of the youth are in side of the president to clean up the bad eggs then he can do that to remove the corrupt leaders in the country and set up a new democratic leaders.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Y3shot on December 17, 2023, 08:34:11 AM
Fighting corruption will not be easy in Nigeria. The only way is to wipe all this politicians and replace them with young people. Because the police, army, judiciary, INEC, legislature all the govt parastatals are corruption not exclude our EFCC.
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The question we need to ask ourselves is that what is the guarantee to tell if replacement of the politicians to young people,  will it really change the country and make it to be free from corruption??. Let's tell ourselves the truth, it is not as if their are no young people occupying political positions. Let be honest with ourselves,  the truth is that tge young people we have in political positions they haven't make any difference,  if new politicians that are young are brought in I don't think their will be any difference.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Pablo-wood on December 17, 2023, 03:50:15 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
I don't see a new president having that ability to fight corruption that easily. If he must then he needs to start as an example of transparent and accountable leader then slowly surround himself with people of like minds not necessarily political leaders then from there he can slowly make implementations that will put the country in check of bad leadership and corrupt practices.

But fighting it completely is not possible the highest that can be achieved is reduced corruption


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Seinlocko on December 18, 2023, 02:06:33 PM
If you want to truly eradicate the chains of corruption in a country, the role of the president alone will not be strong enough to succeed. Because, it is possible that many of the President's subordinates are conspiring to commit corruption (ministers, council members, and so on). Therefore, to break the chain of corruption, solidarity and firmness are needed from all levels of government and society. Because if you only rely on one president, I don't think you will be able to do it. Therefore, solidarity must be implemented.
Corruption is her to stay and we should not even think for eradicating it because we all are humans. We can reduce it be we cants stop it finally. There are people that are born in corruption and they can't depart from it because they live and abide by it..
This is why their are sufferings and unemployment everywhere because the government of many countries are corrupt and not ready to do what will make their citizens to have a good life and live comfortably.
You're right about that, friend. because some people find it difficult to get out of what is called corruption. But in my opinion that doesn't mean that people like that can't get out of that dark path and choose a new, better path. Because humans have habits that change, so it is certain that their corrupt habits can definitely be changed. Even though it will certainly be difficult, but I am sure that corruption can be eradicated to the maximum. Even though it cannot be eradicated 100%, at least with a lack of corruption in a country, it is certain that the country will move in a better direction.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Churchillvv on December 28, 2023, 01:39:46 AM
It is not only difficult but impossible to reduce corruption in a country where the policy makers and responsible persons indirectly advocate corruption without having a specific action plan to fight corruption.
I doubt your choice of word. Yes, it's almost impossible to eradicate corruption in a country, whether it has been rooted so deeply in it or not, but it's very much possible to reduce corruption. Yes, if only the people are willing to do so. First, it's so hard for everyone to decide to be against corruption because most people are benefiting from it. For example, when your father is a top politician and you enjoy the privileges that come from the corruption, it's hard for you to even approach your father to ask him to stop it. So applying this to everyone is what makes it hard for the majority to stand up against corruption, as we all benefit one way or another.

A corrupt country will find it difficult to elect a genuine president as its president. Even though a genuine president is elected, the country's ministers who are corrupt would like to work against him to bring down his mission to fight against corrupt practices.
I agree with you, buddy. Since the system has been so corrupt, I don't think there is any need for one to try to be a genuine president to the public because he or she will receive criticism. I have always said that for anyone to stop this corruption, he or she must be part of the system. It is said that it is the enemy inside that kills faster than the one outside, or that it is the water in a ship that sinks a ship and not the water outside. So you have to be part of the corruption to stop it.

For any genuine president to eradicate corruption, he must work like them, be like them, and then, as soon as the office is open, turn his back on the system to do his best for the majority.

At this point of time it's not a matter of president but the population as a whole , everyone is corrupted , and the least we can do is start by fixing ourselves
You are certainly right! This is just what we are all supposed to do because there is corruption in each and every one of us. So we should first fix ourselves, then head for the smaller sectors; hence, the bigger sectors will have no option but to surrender

It is very much easy for a newly elected president to deal with corruption and rid away with it. If only the president is to to work and I to join the fey Oligarchy.
Could you please give us a detailed information on how an individual (newly elected president) can eradicate a very big rooted corruption?

In Nigeria we don't a president that have the political will to do good services to the people instead we have the government of the few and government of the thugs. Yes the wealthy politicians will like to use the youths to fight against the youths again, but if the large number of the youth are in side of the president to clean up the bad eggs then he can do that to remove the corrupt leaders in the country and set up a new democratic leaders.
My question would be did you witness the last election in Nigeria? If yes, then you should have known how this politics works.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Y3shot on December 28, 2023, 12:21:59 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
I don't see a new president having that ability to fight corruption that easily. If he must then he needs to start as an example of transparent and accountable leader then slowly surround himself with people of like minds not necessarily political leaders then from there he can slowly make implementations that will put the country in check of bad leadership and corrupt practices.

But fighting it completely is not possible the highest that can be achieved is reduced corruption
It won't be easy for a president that is not corrupt to change a corrupt government,  if you check the rate of corruption in a corrupt country you would see that corruption is in every system and if president tries to fight this corrupt system,  the other corrupt politicians who are benefiting from corrupt practices will fight against the president. Corruption can be reduced but can not be totally destroy by a president who is not corrupt.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Dunamisx on December 28, 2023, 01:33:02 PM
Most of us will find it very difficult in fighting against corruption because we know that we are part of the said corruption that is affecting other people around us and the country we are at large, if we are being corrupt, we will know right from the mindset of our heart on what we intended doing or not, we cannot keep deceivin for being whom we are not by lying to others in pretence that we are not corrupt even though we know we are.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Obim34 on December 29, 2023, 12:57:50 AM
Most of us will find it very difficult in fighting against corruption because we know that we are part of the said corruption that is affecting other people around us and the country we are at large, if we are being corrupt, we will know right from the mindset of our heart on what we intended doing or not, we cannot keep deceivin for being whom we are not by lying to others in pretence that we are not corrupt even though we know we are.
Permit me but I do not know your religion but all I want is for you to get my point. My scripture will tell me "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? meaning don't playing hypocrites to what we are victim of, trying to help someone out of a particular condition when we are In the same problem and what should have been considered first is helping one's self out of that condition before lending a helping hand to another person.



Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Ravichnadra on December 29, 2023, 05:04:16 AM
Corruption can't be eradicated in my country.

It became so much that - Without corruption nothing almost works out.

From Traffic police to Political leaders. Corruption has become so strong that no one really can withstand it.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: AirtelBuzz on December 30, 2023, 09:46:31 AM
Corruption is constantly increasing in every country in the world. I don't know when this corruption will decrease.In the country where I live, every single citizen of our country, including us, is a constant victim of corruption. There are also countries where bribery is required to get a simple job which is part of corruption. So we all should speak out against corruption otherwise the whole world will be full of corruption one day.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Zigabel on January 02, 2024, 08:46:16 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
If the president is truly genuine like you said he can start the era where they will push to ending corruption but due to tenure system, I doubt if he will be able to actually put an end to it because by the time he will be done fixing his tenure would have already be done so he will not be able to totally achieve it as he should have but if they run the royal system of government where the power last through a Life Time then he will have enough time to fix and sustain the new system he has created.

It's literally possible but it will take a whole lot of time to get it done totally as it should be.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Tmoonz on January 06, 2024, 09:10:41 PM
Smiles, corruption can no longer be over emphasise because is has become a custom and culture individually and collectively. Corruption denotes fraudulent conducts, dishonest and bribery. Individually we sell our rights during election by collecting money before casting our vote, before aspearing for any position, you must have a political godfather or cartel that will not allow you fulfill your obligations. Corruption is everywhere in different offices. Corruption, can only be completely eradicated only if the human refuses to conform that human wants are insatiable which is the major cause of corruption, but let the change you want begins with you as am individual knowing what corruption stand for.



Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Sanugarid on January 06, 2024, 11:28:35 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?

It is difficult to stop the corruptions because they have spread and seem to have a team. Possible but not easy, I believe the president has done it. We used to reduce the corruption within the gov. and sure there is still some left inside. You won't change if you steal millions of money. There is a lot of corruption here in our area, hoping that the new one can continue what has already been started, but I don't think so because he is also one of them in my opinion.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Bushdark on January 07, 2024, 01:00:37 AM
Most of us will find it very difficult in fighting against corruption because we know that we are part of the said corruption that is affecting other people around us and the country we are at large, if we are being corrupt, we will know right from the mindset of our heart on what we intended doing or not, we cannot keep deceivin for being whom we are not by lying to others in pretence that we are not corrupt even though we know we are.
It might look very difficult to fight against corruption but that does not mean that we should not keep fighting against it.
Corruption is one of the big problems we have in our world today and the fight against it must not end. There are so many crimes everywhere which is as a result of corrupted mind and people that needed to be brought to book are not doing anything to make sure they pay for whatsoever they have done. This is big fight that needed to be consistent.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: SmartCharpa on January 08, 2024, 11:09:52 AM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?

Fighting corruption in the country won't be easy, but a newly elected president can still make every effort to stop it. If they are unable to stop it all, they should at least try to make their country one of the best, it shouldn't be as though corruption existed in the country before they should be elected, after all, the reason people chose for them was their confidence in their ability to fight corruption in the country. Because they don't know how it was corrupted, not that they should fight for it immediately as they are elected. They must take things step by step and take time to figure things out by action rather than just sitting back and doing nothing.

I'm not sure what country you are from, but i believe majority of the country are still dealing with this, which explains why corruption is growing around the world. In my own country, we are currently dealing with the same issue. Most of the elected president find it difficult to fighting corruption, I keep on wondering why we chose them in the first place when they have the ability to fight corruption? We know it wasn't easy, but they still need to fight for what's right for the country, since it is their responsibility to fulfill.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Pikachi42 on January 08, 2024, 12:28:54 PM
Everyone should try together with the President to rid the country of corruption. Because it is almost impossible for one person to make the country free from corruption. The state can enact various laws and regulations to eradicate corruption, but if the common people, businessmen and government officials cannot eradicate corruption themselves, then the country can never be eradicated by anyone. Basically, the efforts of all the people of the country should be equal to make the country free from corruption.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Y3shot on January 14, 2024, 10:20:29 AM
Most of us will find it very difficult in fighting against corruption because we know that we are part of the said corruption that is affecting other people around us and the country we are at large, if we are being corrupt, we will know right from the mindset of our heart on what we intended doing or not, we cannot keep deceivin for being whom we are not by lying to others in pretence that we are not corrupt even though we know we are.
The truth is that the government needs to lead by example,  when the government is leading by example the common citizens will follow their steps.  It is impossible for citizens to be free from corruption when the government is very corrupt,  things don't work that way. That is why when the government fails the country becomes a fail one that everyone will want to do things the they feel like .when you see a country that citizens are free from corruption that mean the government is not corrupt too.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Bushdark on January 14, 2024, 10:59:16 AM
Everyone should try together with the President to rid the country of corruption. Because it is almost impossible for one person to make the country free from corruption. The state can enact various laws and regulations to eradicate corruption, but if the common people, businessmen and government officials cannot eradicate corruption themselves, then the country can never be eradicated by anyone. Basically, the efforts of all the people of the country should be equal to make the country free from corruption.
Corruption is something thay every nation is fighting against because of the reaction of the people.
Even the most advanced country is facing corruption within it premises. There is no way corruption can stop that is why we need to try as much as possible for us to stay safe and releave ourselves from something that is going to make us commit crime.
Corruption will continue if a country has no plan to work on security.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: 2girls on January 15, 2024, 06:04:21 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
I don't see a new president having that ability to fight corruption that easily. If he must then he needs to start as an example of transparent and accountable leader then slowly surround himself with people of like minds not necessarily political leaders then from there he can slowly make implementations that will put the country in check of bad leadership and corrupt practices.

But fighting it completely is not possible the highest that can be achieved is reduced corruption

Yes, this is exactly what you are saying, it is right, we should fight against corruption because it is the benefit of our own country, if we will support the corruption as it is and not its graph landing, then our own country. There is a lot of damage, that is, what we need is that we should implement a law for this, that in any country, in any society, if this corruption occurs, then this punishment will be given, then people will be afraid of the punishment and They will act on it and this program will benefit the entire country, that is, it is not a benefit to a person, it is also a benefit to a society, but it will become a benefit and security for an entire country. Besides, we all should take a necessary action against it


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Bushdark on January 20, 2024, 07:56:20 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
I don't see a new president having that ability to fight corruption that easily. If he must then he needs to start as an example of transparent and accountable leader then slowly surround himself with people of like minds not necessarily political leaders then from there he can slowly make implementations that will put the country in check of bad leadership and corrupt practices.

But fighting it completely is not possible the highest that can be achieved is reduced corruption
It would be very difficult to fight corruption when all coners of the government are corrupt. This would be a difficult move for any government or president that has the mindset to make things happen. We need to understand the arms of government and see for ourselves because it would be difficult for corruption to leave the cycle of the senators and governors that hold the country. We just have to live by it because corruption can never ends.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: odunybiz on January 20, 2024, 10:14:50 PM
Corruption is constantly increasing in every country in the world. I don't know when this corruption will decrease.In the country where I live, every single citizen of our country, including us, is a constant victim of corruption. There are also countries where bribery is required to get a simple job which is part of corruption. So we all should speak out against corruption otherwise the whole world will be full of corruption one day.


The reason why corruption can't be easily eradicated in highly corrupt countries is that corrupt exist in almost all sectors of the country. Starting from the young ones in school to the old ones. Imagine when student bride teachers to pass examinations. Patience briding doctors and nurses before they can perform their duties deligently. 


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Sanugarid on January 20, 2024, 11:47:13 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?

I think it's not easy to get rid of corruption in the government but I think our previous president did it, he didn't get rid of everything but he reduced corruption and I think more than 50% was stopped. Right now I don't know if our president is still doing the same thing, removing corruption from the government or if he is one too, I don't know. I hope not, because he was not the one I voted for so I have a doubt.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Churchillvv on January 21, 2024, 12:21:33 AM
Corruption is constantly increasing in every country in the world. I don't know when this corruption will decrease.In the country where I live, every single citizen of our country, including us, is a constant victim of corruption. There are also countries where bribery is required to get a simple job which is part of corruption. So we all should speak out against corruption otherwise the whole world will be full of corruption one day.


The reason why corruption can't be easily eradicated in highly corrupt countries is that corrupt exist in almost all sectors of the country. Starting from the young ones in school to the old ones. Imagine when student bride teachers to pass examinations. Patience briding doctors and nurses before they can perform their duties deligently. 
I do believe that humans have a percentage of unbuilt greed I them that leads corruption, the examples you gave above are all as a result of greed driving individuals. If not greed there is no way a doctor will have to take bribe before attending to a patience. Like you said even in the smallest sectors we do experience corruption but for corruption to be wiped out totally we have to start with our selfs and change our mentality gradually every other sectors will have to option than surrender to the right things.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: |MINER| on January 21, 2024, 09:32:47 AM
The President can stop corruption but it will be very difficult for him to do it alone.  To stop corruption, people from all sectors, big and small, need cooperation.  But if the administration is much stricter, anything is possible.  However, this is possible only in a few countries because almost all countries are corrupt.  It has now become a global disease.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Hispo on January 22, 2024, 10:21:32 AM
The President can stop corruption but it will be very difficult for him to do it alone.  To stop corruption, people from all sectors, big and small, need cooperation.  But if the administration is much stricter, anything is possible.  However, this is possible only in a few countries because almost all countries are corrupt.  It has now become a global disease.

It is about getting it under control as much as possible to it does not get as bad as in countries like mine. People talk about the European Union as if was the perfect and ideal place to live and had zero corruption, when in reality, there has been serious cases of high level corruption happening in the EU.
I specifically recall the case of a politician who has alledgely bribed by Qatar, so she talked as possively as possible about that country in the European parliament, and did favors in order for the Qatar football world cup to take place without problems coming from the European Union, regarding the human rights problems and the work conditions of those who built the stadiums.

Still, the European Union took a step ahead and arrested that politician, that is the important part within the fight against corruption: to hold those ones guilty into account. So others won't dare to try to do the same in the future.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Zanab247 on January 22, 2024, 11:22:20 AM
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How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.
It will be difficult for such president to succeed in eliminating corruption in the country because, those corrupted leaders that sponsored his or her election with money or other things will like to recover their money back by telling the new elected president to allow corruption so that they can get their money back.

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Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
Yes, if the president is genuinely elected by those that has majority that want corruption to be eliminated from the country, I guess it will be easy for such president to delete the corruption that is affecting the country because, those corrupted people will no longer have strong hand to fight the majority in the land.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Cryptoprincess101 on January 22, 2024, 04:59:52 PM
The President can stop corruption but it will be very difficult for him to do it alone.  To stop corruption, people from all sectors, big and small, need cooperation.  But if the administration is much stricter, anything is possible.  However, this is possible only in a few countries because almost all countries are corrupt.  It has now become a global disease.

Corruption is like a pandemic that has eaten deep in the mindset of people because you can't fight corruption without looking at how people reason or behaves towards corruption and one of the things that's increasing corruption is looking back at other people who have been involved in corrupt practices in the past and then you also want to do same thing they did with the believe that if you're to be probed then that means your predecessors also needs to be probed as well.

Corruption should not only be focused on the government but to every individual in the society because we all are the government as one way or the other you might be opportuned to hold a public office in the future so a situation whereby you're have been involved in corrupt practices in the past then there is every tendency that you are going to continue when you hold a public office.

In summary, the rate of corruption now in our society is very very bad like almost every area of human, be it in their daily lives, in government offices, and in different perspectives of the life of human which is gonna be very dangerous in the future because the younger one now will grow up with that same corrupt mindset tomorrow which will be very bad for the society at large.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: cryptoWODL on January 25, 2024, 08:19:59 AM
The President can stop corruption but it will be very difficult for him to do it alone.  To stop corruption, people from all sectors, big and small, need cooperation.  But if the administration is much stricter, anything is possible.  However, this is possible only in a few countries because almost all countries are corrupt.  It has now become a global disease.
Corruption trends are now evident in many countries around the world. Citizens of our country are now victims of corruption in all spheres of public affairs of our country. Our country has not yet made any significant announcements or initiatives to combat corruption.But sometimes, if the initiative is taken, it is stopped automatically after a few days or a few months, so there is no end to corruption.

A small example of how we are exposed to corruption in our society in our daily life is the trend of bribery in government jobs. Even if the people are vocal, corruption can never be eradicated from that country or society if the government does not take initiative to fight corruption.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Y3shot on January 26, 2024, 06:16:05 PM
The President can stop corruption but it will be very difficult for him to do it alone.  To stop corruption, people from all sectors, big and small, need cooperation.  But if the administration is much stricter, anything is possible.  However, this is possible only in a few countries because almost all countries are corrupt.  It has now become a global disease.
The president have the power to reduce corruption in a country, it might not be really easy to do like in a country where every system and sector is corrupt . The president can make it work by fighting corruption if he can only lead by example, but if the president is corrupt on his own I don't think it will be possible for him to stop corruption.  When the federal government is corrupt every system and and sectors will also learn how to be corrupt just like the people at the top of the government.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: kentrolla on January 27, 2024, 08:34:22 PM
The President can stop corruption but it will be very difficult for him to do it alone.  To stop corruption, people from all sectors, big and small, need cooperation.  But if the administration is much stricter, anything is possible.  However, this is possible only in a few countries because almost all countries are corrupt.  It has now become a global disease.
The president have the power to reduce corruption in a country, it might not be really easy to do like in a country where every system and sector is corrupt . The president can make it work by fighting corruption if he can only lead by example, but if the president is corrupt on his own I don't think it will be possible for him to stop corruption.  When the federal government is corrupt every system and and sectors will also learn how to be corrupt just like the people at the top of the government.

Yes it's not as easy as it looks or how people pretend it to be, Corruption is everywhere be it democracy or dictatorship/military rule because corruption is not something limited to certain group or party it's everywhere and it's in our mindset. I have a slightly different take on corruption and how it can be eradicated. It can start with us educating our kids and nourishing them with good ethics and moral value by teaching them how to stay away from corruption and shouldn't put the greed in their mindset because corruption start with greed and if we religiously follow this then may be after a generation we may see it gradually reducing and this has to be practiced by everyone which is not possible as the corrupt people will never teach these things to their kids. Or everything should be made public like the cost of tenders, council works and the amount they have in coffer and the amount spent on public work should be published over blockchain so that everyone can have visibility as this will bring accountability to every single penny as corruption is done for money which cannot be accounted.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: oktana on January 28, 2024, 11:34:28 AM
Im not sure what country this is but everything has to be in sync. If the president is a good man and really wishes to make an impact, the people under him can still hinder a lot of things through corruption. For instance, for countries that are under development, if the president decides to build a new hospital and gives the money to whoever is supposed to be in charge, the corruption from their end may end up resulting in a substandard hospital or an unfinished project. So everyone (at least the ones at the top) needs to all have similar goals and vision. Just my thoughts.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: encryptogon on January 28, 2024, 04:07:01 PM
The president have the power to reduce corruption in a country, it might not be really easy to do like in a country where every system and sector is corrupt . The president can make it work by fighting corruption if he can only lead by example, but if the president is corrupt on his own I don't think it will be possible for him to stop corruption.  When the federal government is corrupt every system and and sectors will also learn how to be corrupt just like the people at the top of the government.

Corruption can be removed from the country by making anti-corruption laws and strictly following them.  If one person is honest, he can not change the whole country. To fight corruption, the education of the masses is important. In a country where every department is corrupt and compromised, it is very difficult to eradicate corruption by just making laws. Authorities should set an example by punishing the corrupt before the public. Or the country is in dire need of the new system.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Perosky1984 on January 28, 2024, 05:33:24 PM
Today i saw on the internet where Cameroonians are busy heaping insults on Nigerian president, due to their colossal 2 nill loss to the Super Eagles of Nigeria at the round of 16 on AFCON. At this point i shared tears when Cameroonians reminded us of how bad our economy has become. They make a chibe at us with Dollar exchange of 1 dollar = 1400 Naira.
Could this be a see finish? Or is football no longer a game of sportmanship?
Does it not bother us as a Nation nicked named "Giant of Africa" but yet smaller countries are taunting us due to the poor situation of things that is so visible to even the blind? Should we really blame those who are making fun of us because of our bad situations?
Should we attack them back verbally? When a respected man choose to misbehave in public, it is other peoples children that will openly insult him. A mad man or woman who walks naked does not have shame but the family members are the ones who bears the shame.
Thats what our politicians are. They dont have shame anymore, so whatever abuses that is rained on them or the country doesnt bother them. But we the ordinary citizens are the ones feeling the shame on their behalf.
I wish God can put back the spirit of shame on our leaders so that they can feel the shame of what people doing to us because we manage to win only 2 nill last night.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: odunybiz on January 30, 2024, 10:32:34 PM
The President can stop corruption but it will be very difficult for him to do it alone.  To stop corruption, people from all sectors, big and small, need cooperation.  But if the administration is much stricter, anything is possible.  However, this is possible only in a few countries because almost all countries are corrupt.  It has now become a global disease.

Stoping corruption is beyond only president or government responsibilities. It's really involved everyone. Corruption begins from home. We citizens have a key role to play to stop corruption in our country. Is it government that is in charge of school exam where student have to pay certain money to lecturer to be passed? Imagine people giving bride to jump a long quequ, it is president here as well? Stop corruption is the work of both citizen and the government.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Obim34 on January 31, 2024, 07:54:34 AM
The President can stop corruption but it will be very difficult for him to do it alone.  To stop corruption, people from all sectors, big and small, need cooperation.  But if the administration is much stricter, anything is possible.  However, this is possible only in a few countries because almost all countries are corrupt.  It has now become a global disease.

Stoping corruption is beyond only president or government responsibilities. It's really involved everyone. Corruption begins from home. We citizens have a key role to play to stop corruption in our country. Is it government that is in charge of school exam where student have to pay certain money to lecturer to be passed? Imagine people giving bride to jump a long quequ, it is president here as well? Stop corruption is the work of both citizen and the government.
We are the government, those who are in those offices where ones  ordinary citizens like we all and having the corrupt mindset taking it up that level of holding governmental power. Power does not corrupt a person but only helps in showcasing what has been inbuilt, so everyone needs to put heads together to fight against this corruption.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Perosky1984 on February 01, 2024, 09:25:06 AM
Corruption has eaten deep into our bones. Starting from the family, to the churches, Mosque and all government institutions.
I think the government should just create a Ministry of Corruption so that a lot of Nigerians can apply for a job there.
Starting from the families, most parents show love to only children who they can gain something from. If you have kids and your sister who is married to a rich husband  has kids, if both children visit their grand parents you noticed that your sister's children will be well treated than the other kids.
Comes to the churches am mosque, all the monies collected from the poor masses in the name offerings are used to open schools that the tithe and offering payers cannot attend. When someone use the name of God to extort money from you is the worst form of corruption.
All government institution in Nigeria are corrupt. Jujuciary,Robberslators, Executhieves are all corrupt.
Our higher institutions are not left out in this web of corruption. Our schools no longer teach character but teaches sorting as a legal means of passing exams. A girl who went to school as a virgin, but because she want to pass her courses by all means will now graduate as ogbongidi..
Where do we start from fighting this corruption? Is it from the government or from the family?


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Bushdark on February 04, 2024, 09:17:15 AM
The President can stop corruption but it will be very difficult for him to do it alone.  To stop corruption, people from all sectors, big and small, need cooperation.  But if the administration is much stricter, anything is possible.  However, this is possible only in a few countries because almost all countries are corrupt.  It has now become a global disease.

Stoping corruption is beyond only president or government responsibilities. It's really involved everyone. Corruption begins from home. We citizens have a key role to play to stop corruption in our country. Is it government that is in charge of school exam where student have to pay certain money to lecturer to be passed? Imagine people giving bride to jump a long quequ, it is president here as well? Stop corruption is the work of both citizen and the government.
The fight against corruption would never end that is why those people that are always comfortable doing illegal things and going everywhere they like without penalty is a big blow. It is good the government bounce on such people so that this would be reduced.
Getting law enforcement in charge to do there own thing is a way to make sure that people actually get what deserve.
A lawless country is a country that has no strong force in place to help make security stay bold.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Funke on February 08, 2024, 08:22:06 PM
Eradicating corruption is a near impossibility because the social Political system are dominated by the retrogressive forces that keeps the system stagnant for their continues domination and enjoyment.

It will only take one president with determination to step on toes .


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Abdulzuruku01 on February 09, 2024, 11:12:11 AM
Like in South Africa,  it was easy for Nelson Mandela  to fight for good governance because  he was fully supported by other citizens  of South Africa .
I wish Nigerians would work together to support our president in this way, but we never think the same way, all we do is criticise each other's political party, we ignore the hardships in the country, which is why our politicians always brainwash us.

The only way corruption like this can  be defeated by a president who is different from other leaders who have served in the past, is if the citizens of that country can fully support and stand by their president. If other bad politicians sees that majority  of the citizens  are against corruption,  I think it will be tough for them to go against the president.

The late President Musa Yar'Adua had good intentions to fight corruption in Nigeria, but he didn't make it due to the illness that led to his death. We don't even know if the illness was actually the cause of his death or if it was a politician's plan. Also President Muhammadu Buhari made every effort to fight corruption, to the point that he was poisoned. I've seen numerous videos in the media of some of our politicians claiming that people are pursuing their lives in an effort to fight corruption. What benefit does corruption provide that people would attempt to kill you or even take your life?


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Promocodeudo on February 09, 2024, 12:47:48 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?

It is very difficult to fight corruption in a country like this, if corruption has eaten deep into a nation no matter how the new president fights, the corruption will fight back, is just like taking people unaware to act on something, it is not an easy stuff, corruption is an enemy of progress, to eradicate corruption totally in the society, so many institution of the government needed to be sanitized in other to get it right, despite that this process might prolong the journey but it has to be done if such government want to fix this menace, political position should not be given based on lobby or favouritism rather it should be given to people that can provide solution and technocrats.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: MegameSama on February 11, 2024, 05:29:38 PM
It doesn't mean anything or be proud, we have an extraordinary country, because in our country it is impossible to eliminate corruption because it is carried out evenly by all state officials, from the highest position, to the lowest, if I may joke a little, if an angel enters the system our government, he is also involved in corruption. In our country, corruption is like a system, even those who don't want corruption also join the flow, or if they insist on not wanting to take part in corruption, they will be ostracized and dwarfed in the cabinet. even if they are caught there is no remorse, in prison they get prison facilities like 5 star hotels, guess which country this is lol. So if someone from us asks not to be corrupt, I'm pessimistic, you say that because it hasn't entered the government yet, if it does, it's the same as corruption too.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Natsuu on February 11, 2024, 11:43:27 PM
People should demand from the government and shake things up in the police, judiciary and politics like pushing for transparency and honesty. But let's be real, it's not just about rules because you need to change the mindset. Expect resistance from the old guard so you'll need public backing and friends who share the anti-corruption vibe. It's a tough idea really but with persistence and support, a genuine president can make a dent in that corruption mess


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Jonyshake71 on February 12, 2024, 12:30:47 PM
Not at all. Cause a president alone wouldn't do anything without support. And it'll be more harder if a country already full of corrupted person. Cause when a president would like to take an action then maybe he'll found many corrupted politicians in his own team. So generally he needs to fight against his own people if he want yo fight against corruption. But it is not impossible at all. He can make changes gradually if he really want. 


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Gozie51 on February 12, 2024, 12:39:59 PM
Not at all. Cause a president alone wouldn't do anything without support. And it'll be more harder if a country already full of corrupted person. Cause when a president would like to take an action then maybe he'll found many corrupted politicians in his own team. So generally he needs to fight against his own people if he want yo fight against corruption. But it is not impossible at all. He can make changes gradually if he really want. 

If a president that doesn't support corruption finds a cabinet member who is corrupt and would spoil his plans for the people then the easiest thing to do is to relieve the corrupt member from his team because afterall it is the president that will be answerable to the people if the administration doesn't deliver to the people. It is easier to relieve a member of his cabinet position if the person was solely appointed by the president or he can go through same process of appointment to relieve such person from the position. A government that is not delivering because of corruption, the president is the one to be held responsible, so he needs to fire and hire someone else at the discovery of corruption if the president is not corrupt himself.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: NicNacCoin on February 13, 2024, 10:22:43 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
Corruption can be suppressed from a country if the government wants to, but corruption cannot be suppressed from that country if the government tries to corrupt itself. The government is not trying any way to fight corruption in my country, the government is trying more to take corruption out of my country. As my country has now become a one government dictatorship, more and more corruption has started. If there is no dictatorship in the country then there will be less corruption in that country. All the people who are in the government party from my country are corrupting so much that they are building luxury houses in other states by corruption. Govt must try to suppress all these corrupt people who are owning a lot of money even from small positions. Here of course I mentioned my Bangladesh.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Bravut on February 14, 2024, 01:11:56 AM
Yes.
For a Nation to succeed she must have a reliable Leader before the change can take place.
Even the Bible says;A Nation ruled by a Righteous leader prospers,
During Elections,this should be the time the people come out to vote for the right candidate and trustworthy leader who will enhance the growth of a country.
If a genuine president is elected I think his influence will cut across all angles of the government and revive the system of government that is runned by genuine individuals who are there for the people.
Thus, enabling a Corruption free country.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Gormicsta on March 07, 2024, 02:52:56 PM
Corruption can lead to a lack of confidence, the division in the rule of law, or an improper use of resources. It is unfortunate that corruption has taken over the country and has affected our standard of living, therefore one approach to establish peace and prevent corruption is through transparency. Transparency can benefit us by promoting a culture of responsibility in which people in positions of leadership are held accountable for their choices.
Transparency can also be applied to identify and punish corruption when it occurs. Furthermore, selflessness can be used to combat corruption, among other things.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Tmoonz on March 07, 2024, 03:10:20 PM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?


When talking about fighting corruption is easy said than done, the first question is how much united are the citizens, there is no unity even among the citizens therefore, fighting this corruption in a country can not be possible when there is no like minds. The least you could do is to do your best not to encourage bribery and corruption, in your family, and in your working place and your doings with those around you. Let the change you want begins with you.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Dunamisx on March 07, 2024, 03:57:44 PM
Maybe at some point in life, we are also found being corrupted without even knowing, this all starts when we sure too minded with our own personal self and not being considerate on others, corruption is an act that anyone can fall into if care is not taken because when we are not giving ourself caution on what to do and not, we may eventually go into corruption without having the idea that we are in already.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Y3shot on March 08, 2024, 10:08:46 AM
Not at all. Cause a president alone wouldn't do anything without support. And it'll be more harder if a country already full of corrupted person. Cause when a president would like to take an action then maybe he'll found many corrupted politicians in his own team. So generally he needs to fight against his own people if he want yo fight against corruption. But it is not impossible at all. He can make changes gradually if he really want. 
The president have the power to do anything he wants , even if the president is unable to fight corruption totally the president still have the power to reduce corruption to certain level. If you say the president can't fight corruption that means a country that the whole system is corrupt will remain corrupt forever. Their is a beginning to everything,  making an attempt to stop corruption will yield a good result.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Ever-young on March 10, 2024, 09:35:41 AM
The only way corruption like this can  be defeated by a president who is different from other leaders who have served in the past, is if the citizens of that country can fully support and stand by their president. If other bad politicians sees that majority  of the citizens  are against corruption,  I think it will be tough for them to go against the president.
 Like in South Africa,  it was easy for Nelson Mandela  to fight for good governance because  he was fully supported by other citizens  of South Africa .

Yes, Fighting corruption is like slaying a multi-headed serpent; you need to attack at all levels of government and society to make an important difference. A strong leader with a sound plan can be a great ally, but they require the people's support to make their efforts effective.

Even with a united front, fighting corruption is a long-term effort. It takes an ongoing commitment from citizens, politicians, and law enforcement to guarantee that corrupt practices do not resurface under new names or in many different forms. And don't forget that corruption has nowhere to take refuge.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: AVE5 on March 10, 2024, 02:22:33 PM
It's only possible to happen if the serving president is ready to make the changes from the political geographical system where he has to subdue those who would encounter his opinion. He must be rest assured that nothing good usually comes easy because stones would be thrown at him for going contrarily of their selfish political interests which is the main reasons why politics has become a commission of embezzlements and abusage of powers.
He should in time chain the judiciaries, the arm forces and the medias. These would be his way forward tools for backups and so also consider working along with the masses.
Although this is not an easy task.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: MissNonFall9 on March 11, 2024, 04:38:20 PM
If the entire system of a country is corrupt then it is not a trivial or easy matter to end corruption there. To win the fight against corruption the first thing that is very necessary is public awareness and participatory behavior of civil society. And it is this public awareness that can ensure good governance and eliminate corruption. It is also possible for the leader of a country to ensure the rule of law, but he must be fully elected by the people and have the love and support of the people at all levels of the country it will be a long-term and difficult matter. But if the state leader wants it then public awareness will be very effective in eliminating corruption. Because we know that the health of the body depends mostly on the head, if the head is good then the whole body will be good and if the head is good then the whole body will perform the activities properly.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Neobanks on March 12, 2024, 01:12:40 AM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
We cannot solve our problem by using the same tools we use in creating them. Corruption is a killer disease that can destroy any nation if a drastic measure is not put in place, so I don't think if there is any government institution that is competent enough to fight corruption because most institution was instituted by corrupt leaders for the purpose of fighting their political opponent.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: Neobanks on March 12, 2024, 01:24:07 AM
People should demand from the government and shake things up in the police, judiciary and politics like pushing for transparency and honesty. But let's be real, it's not just about rules because you need to change the mindset. Expect resistance from the old guard so you'll need public backing and friends who share the anti-corruption vibe. It's a tough idea really but with persistence and support, a genuine president can make a dent in that corruption mess
The only fight corruption is to change our mindset and have a positive mindset and a good approach that will benefit our collective interest. Most agency that is vested with the power to fight corruption are already corrupt from the foundation and most of them were constituted by corrupt leaders using their corrupt political godson to super head the agency for the purpose of covering their sin while witch-hunting their political opponent and those that will oppose them.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: kotajikikox on March 12, 2024, 03:11:06 AM
How easy for a new president who is been elected to fight corruption in a nation where all the systems of government is been corrupted,  like in the force,  and judiciary,  even the politicians.

Having  the mind to stop corruption is not easy in a nation that corruption  is seen as nothing, making an attempt to do so some politicians will do everything to frustrate the agenda. Do you think a genuine president can easily end corruption of this level ?
In my country the last president that consistently fighting corruption Ending up losing its office because of what he is fighting back fired on him as the big players fooled people and the Law of Him being the corrupt and I believe this will happen when you are working with a total corrupt government.
like in other countries that their leader faces even harder and some being killed because of what they are fighting to change their country in to good,
remember that in our time now Money makes the world go round.


Title: Re: Fight against corruption
Post by: AVE5 on March 12, 2024, 08:51:07 AM
The goal of corruption is to gain desired result or benefit with the help of funds or other benefits. Corruption is what puts one persons wish over others. If you want to fight corruption, doesnt this mean that you have something that does not suit you (but maybe suits for others), and you want to put your interests above others? Can it understood as fighting corruption with corruption? I think corruption is impossible to beat, because when searching for alternative solution, people plant another seed of corruption.

I understand you try to say without being mindedly corrupted you can't figure what corruption is about and you still can't fight it unless you also have to imply with your own corrupted strategies before you can conquer corruption. That's is literally to say that everyone is corrupted but @bakasabo if a stylish corruption doesn't fit the masses under a government and then there's a certain projection of corruptions that brings suitability to the wellness of these masses where they could bravo and kudos to the same corrupted leaders I think no one would complain about it unless those who were brought down of corruptions for hindering the comforts of the masses.
So I'm on the instincts that if correcting a corruptible activities in the government deserves a corruptible style ways then so be it. All the masses wanted was freedom and a happy and comfortable government.
It's also know that you can't be agitating for peace and goes unarmed to disarm the armed persons. You would also have to be armed equipped with all readiness to accept whatever which ways it requires to achieve your aim.
That's my own thoughts.