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Title: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 03:31:57 PM
I was going through my feed when I saw this article :
 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp)

According to the article the parents of the 24 Year old teacher blamed inadequate Gambling treatment and medicines available right now, also improper assesment of Gambling disorder. Their son became an addict by using fixed odds at the age of 16-17 and ultimately his addiction spiralled out of control.

This made me go further in the article to find more about Gambling disorder, according to the current education, it's categorized under impulsive disorder, in the US they are actually treated with medicine like : Mood stabilizers, Opioids, antidepressants and antipsychotic pills.

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: crwth on March 07, 2022, 03:38:35 PM
I think every country and leader should have somewhat of a stand with gambling addiction or addiction in general. Most people that have this kind of disorder would probably have tendencies to have a relapse and continue doing it. There's not much education with this kind of thing where I live, and I hope there are at least people who care about those who could have this.

Not a joke, just like mental health. I think this is the condition as well.

We all know casinos are for-profit, and it will look like that, but it's still the person that gambles that is at fault.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Boristhecat on March 07, 2022, 03:45:02 PM
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Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

It is not true. Any industry works to make money. And in any industry, a consumer with mental problems will be very traumatized - alcohol, online games, ordinary food in excessive quantities will make you sick or even dead. I think these are the problems of individual consumers and not the gaming industry. And I really don’t like it when, because of such cases, they begin to evaluate me (an adult adequate person) (from the point of view of the law) as an insane fool who must prove his right to gamble (or drink, or play "cruel" video games).


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: _act_ on March 07, 2022, 03:53:20 PM
We have seen many people bad experiences about gambling that have shown how parents should take gambling, we can not all the time be relying on government intervention. Many governments are benefiting from gambling and gambling is not regulated as it ought to be. The best we can do is to focus on our children which is the most important.

The first step is to let children know about gambling when they are growing, how it has devastated some life's and how some people killed themselves after they have lost everything and the losses led them to have negative thoughts like taking their own life. I was so said the day I read a new of someone that killed himself after many losses, surely he was a gambling addicted.

I read on news in my country about a person that his father sold his land to send him abroad, he worked abroad and make some money before coming back home. He got back home and start a cloth business before a friend visited him one day and they talked about gambling, he started to gamble from there. When he lost so much in gambling, his business fold up and he got nothing to do. He later started to steal cars with some bad other people that he turned to. He told his story where gambling led him to when he was arrested and now in prison.

I have read many real life bad stories about many gambling addicts. Parents needs to focus on there children. It is not bad to have started letting your children know the bad side of gambling and with real life events that have led some people to nothing than losses. Letting them know how addiction is, how to know when someone is addicted and how gambling can get them to no where than nothing. Telling them there are more than 99% chances to lose and got depression and less than 1% chance to win. That gambling is not a business, it is not a way to make money, that thinking of gambling like that will result to bad experience for them.

Spouce and parents should keep watch on their spouce and children, there are few signs you can know your child is a gambling addict, like pressing phone all the time, mood swings when pressing phone and some others. You have to keep on advising them. This will benefit your children than nothing that government will offer them. The government do not care because it is not there child but yours, only what the government most care about is the tax they are generating from gambling industries.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: btc_angela on March 07, 2022, 03:54:48 PM
Of course there are laws in every country about gambling and it's bad effects and how government are helping to curb those addictions, even stricter penalties. But I guess it's really up to the individual themselves, in the first place they know the dangers of gambling and yet they try to get into it and suffer the consequences. The government can only do that much, people need to help themselves if they don't want to get addicted and the bad effects of gambling in life.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Doell on March 07, 2022, 03:59:05 PM
Indeed mental disorders such as gambling addicts must see a psychiatrist, such treatment may be very useful for most addicts. In my country if there are addicts then they will go to the doctor but depending on the economic capacity as well, there are those who run to shamans or are left alone until they become crazy. The regulations in my country are strict if a gambler is caught gambling, he is immediately jailed.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: madnessteat on March 07, 2022, 04:00:39 PM
I don't think it is right to treat gambling addiction with opiates or antidepressants, as these substances are also addictive. As I understand it they temporarily suppress cravings for gambling addiction but do not relieve gamblers from addiction.

Besides big medical companies first of all care about their income so it is profitable for them to pretend that these drugs treat gambling addiction. I would never allow my child to be treated with these drugs.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 07, 2022, 04:03:26 PM
Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


As far as I know, in the Philippines, I am not personally aware if there are any projects or messages that cater specifically in resolving gambling or addiction problems. But I know that there are projects and videos that are being scattered through social media on supporting people on their respective mental health. I am not sure if such mental health projects include gambling addiction, but I have yet to see something that is so specific to a certain issue.

I do think that laws must be implemented in addressing mental health issues. Given that COVID has let people stay at their respective houses in which online gambling popularized, I just hope that these people would be able to recover from such.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Sirait on March 07, 2022, 04:03:57 PM
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Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

in my country gambling is not legalized, so the average gambling addict comes from online gambling and those who experience severe gambling addiction can only take their own treatment. different peoples have different views and different ways how they handle their gambling. only a few gamblers have a very severe addiction, while the majority can control their gambling. so the assessment of gambling has a predatory stance is wrong.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: molsewid on March 07, 2022, 04:05:10 PM
Indeed mental disorders such as gambling addicts must see a psychiatrist, such treatment may be very useful for most addicts. In my country if there are addicts then they will go to the doctor but depending on the economic capacity as well, there are those who run to shamans or are left alone until they become crazy. The regulations in my country are strict if a gambler is caught gambling, he is immediately jailed.

And yeah so far there's no medicines directly intended for such kind of gambling addictions made available as of now and only psychiatrists can help those affected gambling addict on their situation. But above all, all these medications and consultation will not be enough if theres no cooperation or willingness that the gambling addict show for the treatment of his addiction. I think this kind of problem should be addressed properly with the help of government.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Rruchi man on March 07, 2022, 04:07:59 PM
I don't think it is right to treat gambling addiction with opiates or antidepressants, as these substances are also addictive. As I understand it they temporarily suppress cravings for gambling addiction but do not relieve gamblers from addiction.

Besides big medical companies first of all care about their income so it is profitable for them to pretend that these drugs treat gambling addiction. I would never allow my child to be treated with these drugs.
If someone with a gambling disorder is treated with drugs, it feels to me that he/she will have to continue to use such a drug maybe throughout the rest of their life. Apart from the financial strain this can cause, it also has the ability to have some damaging long term effects on the body and system of the person been treated with it. A better alternative for me to treat those with disorders is to try to teach them to replace the habit with a good habit. So whenever the craving to gamble comes, he/she can indulge in the other activity to distract the mind as a way to try to get control. If effectively practiced, the uncontrollable desire to gamble can be brought under check.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: KTChampions on March 07, 2022, 04:18:40 PM
I don't think it is right to treat gambling addiction with opiates or antidepressants, as these substances are also addictive. As I understand it they temporarily suppress cravings for gambling addiction but do not relieve gamblers from addiction.

Besides big medical companies first of all care about their income so it is profitable for them to pretend that these drugs treat gambling addiction. I would never allow my child to be treated with these drugs.

On the one hand, we see greedy pharmaceutical companies, it's true. But on the other hand, I see people who do not want to take responsibility for their lives. If you can't force yourself to do the right thing and not do the wrong thing, then who's to blame?
By the way, if I am lazy, lie on the bed and not work, then can I already sue someone for not curing me? I think we will see similar claims soon.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: madnessteat on March 07, 2022, 04:28:17 PM
I don't think it is right to treat gambling addiction with opiates or antidepressants, as these substances are also addictive. As I understand it they temporarily suppress cravings for gambling addiction but do not relieve gamblers from addiction.

Besides big medical companies first of all care about their income so it is profitable for them to pretend that these drugs treat gambling addiction. I would never allow my child to be treated with these drugs.
If someone with a gambling disorder is treated with drugs, it feels to me that he/she will have to continue to use such a drug maybe throughout the rest of their life. Apart from the financial strain this can cause, it also has the ability to have some damaging long term effects on the body and system of the person been treated with it. A better alternative for me to treat those with disorders is to try to teach them to replace the habit with a good habit. So whenever the craving to gamble comes, he/she can indulge in the other activity to distract the mind as a way to try to get control. If effectively practiced, the uncontrollable desire to gamble can be brought under check.

In most countries gambling addiction is treated by the same methods and the same drugs are used. In my opinion the best remedy for gambling addiction treatment is good psychologists and strong desire of an addict to solve this problem.

In my opinion treatment with addictive drugs is one big scam of big medical corporations. Even if these drugs help to get rid of gambling addiction a person can never give up these drugs on his own will as he will constantly be in a depressed state and depression.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: dbc23 on March 07, 2022, 05:04:01 PM
Of course there are laws in every country about gambling and it's bad effects and how government are helping to curb those addictions, even stricter penalties. But I guess it's really up to the individual themselves, in the first place they know the dangers of gambling and yet they try to get into it and suffer the consequences. The government can only do that much, people need to help themselves if they don't want to get addicted and the bad effects of gambling in life.
This laws only have effects in developed countries where the interest of their citizens are of ought most priority. Individuals too have a very strong role to play to keep this addictions at arms length and if parents could take out time to look after their children's activities and passion for gambling they too can help in their own little way


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Oasisman on March 07, 2022, 05:22:38 PM
I have seen several people who was hardly devastated financially because of the uncontrollable gambling addiction. I have to agree that the government should be aware of this and give more attention to a rising cases for gambling addiction, however, due to the tons of government issues my country is facing, this kind of disorder have always been overlooked and were taken lightly.
I guess the first step to this is to hold the gambling company liable for such cases. The gambling company should be at least the first to know If there is a significant increase of betting amount and gambling time for an individual, thus they should reach out to this individual, and then the gambling company will be the one to report it to the authorities so the government will take action from there.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Hamphser on March 07, 2022, 05:33:04 PM
Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

If we do really look on the bigger picture then you could able to point out that only a few countries does really have put up some emphasis  when it comes to gambling addiction support on which it would really be that

mindful on helping out those people who had been addicted but on general case most country doesnt really care since they do know that if casinos would get even more profits or revenue then it is understandable that
they would get higher taxes too and if ever they do show up some kind of concern then it would be just light and not really that trying out to help those who are affected which if you dont like to mess up your life
with addiction then you should be aware the potential risks since from the start as a gambler.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: ReiMomo on March 07, 2022, 05:33:50 PM
I have seen several people who was hardly devastated financially because of the uncontrollable gambling addiction. I have to agree that the government should be aware of this and give more attention to a rising cases for gambling addiction, however, due to the tons of government issues my country is facing, this kind of disorder have always been overlooked and were taken lightly.
I guess the first step to this is to hold the gambling company liable for such cases. The gambling company should be at least the first to know If there is a significant increase of betting amount and gambling time for an individual, thus they should reach out to this individual, and then the gambling company will be the one to report it to the authorities so the government will take action from there.


Its been there from the olden days. Only the platform changes not the addiction to it. Yes, its the individual who has to have a self control when he feels he is going over to his limit. But yes its the environment that attracts him back. But yes he has to avoid going to such places if he wishes to come out of addiction. I would say, everyone involved in it, starting from who organizes till who approves are responsible for one's addiction. Govt should focus on individual's as equally they focus on other stuffs.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Falconer on March 07, 2022, 05:33:54 PM
I don't think it is right to treat gambling addiction with opiates or antidepressants, as these substances are also addictive. As I understand it they temporarily suppress cravings for gambling addiction but do not relieve gamblers from addiction.
For the right dosage, it would probably be a good solution. While several other things also succeeded in suppressing his desire to gamble such as having a better job or doing more useful activities. But of course a person will not be recommended to take this type of drug without the supervision of a doctor or expert.

For severe addiction, the gambler may have to see a psychologist for the purpose of changing his or her mindset about gambling. I've found quite a number of people going crazy from excessive drugs or alcohol, but it's hard to find someone addicted to gambling going crazy. This means that gambling addiction can still be controlled in several ways or medication if the gambler really wants to stop gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: madnessteat on March 07, 2022, 05:44:36 PM
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Any drug addiction starts with small dosages and gradually the dosages increase as the body quickly becomes addicted to any substance. If a person cannot cope with gambling addiction on his own, it is a mistake to think that he will be able to stop using antidepressants or opiates which are offered to him as treatment. 


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Lanatsa on March 07, 2022, 05:56:44 PM
I have seen several people who was hardly devastated financially because of the uncontrollable gambling addiction. I have to agree that the government should be aware of this and give more attention to a rising cases for gambling addiction, however, due to the tons of government issues my country is facing, this kind of disorder have always been overlooked and were taken lightly.
I guess the first step to this is to hold the gambling company liable for such cases. The gambling company should be at least the first to know If there is a significant increase of betting amount and gambling time for an individual, thus they should reach out to this individual, and then the gambling company will be the one to report it to the authorities so the government will take action from there.


Its been there from the olden days. Only the platform changes not the addiction to it. Yes, its the individual who has to have a self control when he feels he is going over to his limit. But yes its the environment that attracts him back. But yes he has to avoid going to such places if he wishes to come out of addiction. I would say, everyone involved in it, starting from who organizes till who approves are responsible for one's addiction. Govt should focus on individual's as equally they focus on other stuffs.
Government support or any other external help would be still useless into someone who doesnt really help out theirselves first because no matter how good the support is but you arent  that willing on quitting or avoid it then

you would definitely just keeps coming back and create even more problems if you do tolerate yourself and not really that serious on avoiding it at all cost.Somehow, some factors could really influence your decisions
on which if you do actively seeing the environment to be on that way then most likely it would make the situation more worst.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Tumanggor on March 07, 2022, 06:07:21 PM
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Any drug addiction starts with small dosages and gradually the dosages increase as the body quickly becomes addicted to any substance. If a person cannot cope with gambling addiction on his own, it is a mistake to think that he will be able to stop using antidepressants or opiates which are offered to him as treatment.  
true, after all, antidepressant drugs only have a short function, after that the user will return to his opiate

Early childhood education on gambling, sex and drugs is very important, because, without proper education and direction, young people will become addicts who are difficult to stop

In my country, I have noticed that this kind of education has begun to decrease, so that underage addicts (drugs, sex and gambling) are increasing. it takes hard work from the government to be able to minimize the damage that occurs to the younger generation


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Yaunfitda on March 07, 2022, 06:13:12 PM
I have seen several people who was hardly devastated financially because of the uncontrollable gambling addiction. I have to agree that the government should be aware of this and give more attention to a rising cases for gambling addiction, however, due to the tons of government issues my country is facing, this kind of disorder have always been overlooked and were taken lightly.
I guess the first step to this is to hold the gambling company liable for such cases. The gambling company should be at least the first to know If there is a significant increase of betting amount and gambling time for an individual, thus they should reach out to this individual, and then the gambling company will be the one to report it to the authorities so the government will take action from there.
For sure government are aware of this, but maybe they are torn because the money generated by the casinos is huge for them. I guess the money they received can somewhat help those who are addicted and they can set up facilities to help those people. Yes, people are to blame here, but at least the government have the responsibilities to help and take action.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Fortify on March 07, 2022, 06:31:30 PM
I was going through my feed when I saw this article :
 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp)

According to the article the parents of the 24 Year old teacher blamed inadequate Gambling treatment and medicines available right now, also improper assesment of Gambling disorder. Their son became an addict by using fixed odds at the age of 16-17 and ultimately his addiction spiralled out of control.

This made me go further in the article to find more about Gambling disorder, according to the current education, it's categorized under impulsive disorder, in the US they are actually treated with medicine like : Mood stabilizers, Opioids, antidepressants and antipsychotic pills.

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


It's a tough situation because the persons age is definitely the point of contention here. Nobody who is 16-17 should be allowed anywhere near such gambling machines because their brain is still developing and they might get hooked on gambling much easier than somebody older. There should be a cut off, say 21 or 25, where people need to at some point take responsibility for their own actions - whether that is abstaining entirely and/or getting appropriate treatment. However gambling companies are often quite subversive in how they target younger generations and it often takes regulators a lot time to take corrective actions. I feel bad for the person in the article, but they should not have been allowed on the premises or be able to use such machines in the first place, maybe the owners of the property with the gaming machines on (that make a nice profit) also need to share responsibility.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Falconer on March 07, 2022, 06:42:39 PM
Any drug addiction starts with small dosages and gradually the dosages increase as the body quickly becomes addicted to any substance. If a person cannot cope with gambling addiction on his own, it is a mistake to think that he will be able to stop using antidepressants or opiates which are offered to him as treatment.
Maybe not, the treatment done by a specialist will not make a person addicted forever because they will reduce the dose to a smaller than before that is adjusted to the behavior and level of addiction to gambling or something else.

Not everyone likes gambling addiction treatment with antidepressants or the like because there are other things that are more likely to be done without taking drugs. These are all just solutions and they shouldn't do it if they don't like it. If it's me, then I prefer to do activities that are more beneficial to reduce the desire to gamble, much less likely to be exposed to drugs.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Cryptock on March 07, 2022, 06:43:21 PM
Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

Of course, the law and protection against gambling addiction should be improved. I think there is not enough information on the risks of gambling. The fact that the law does not deal with the threats can be seen, for example, by the fact that at the moment there is a very popular among streamers to show how easily they win in casinos. Of course, they play for fake money and get paid by the casino, but young people don't know it and think it's so easy to win. The dream of easy, huge money makes them start gambling and at best they lose everything and at worst, they get addicted.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: dunfida on March 07, 2022, 06:47:35 PM
I have seen several people who was hardly devastated financially because of the uncontrollable gambling addiction. I have to agree that the government should be aware of this and give more attention to a rising cases for gambling addiction, however, due to the tons of government issues my country is facing, this kind of disorder have always been overlooked and were taken lightly.
I guess the first step to this is to hold the gambling company liable for such cases. The gambling company should be at least the first to know If there is a significant increase of betting amount and gambling time for an individual, thus they should reach out to this individual, and then the gambling company will be the one to report it to the authorities so the government will take action from there.
For sure government are aware of this, but maybe they are torn because the money generated by the casinos is huge for them. I guess the money they received can somewhat help those who are addicted and they can set up facilities to help those people. Yes, people are to blame here, but at least the government have the responsibilities to help and take action.
Thats why we are seeing some countries ban out gambling to protect their citizens out of addiction and dont mind about tax revenues that they could possibly get but in most places this is one of the biggest contributor

when it comes to economic taxes which it is normal for government to mind or give out some priorities but somehow they do give out some services which do really help out those addicted gamblers.
There are some consulting services or something like that which do solve out the possible problems ahead.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Mauser on March 07, 2022, 07:01:14 PM

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


In my country for any form of gambling you need to be at least 18 years old, this is very strictly enforced. Any casinos allowing minors to gamble will lose their licence, I needed to show my ID always when entering a physical casino, even for just watching and not playing myself. As for the advertising it is also highly regulated, any form of ads need to mention that gambling can lead to addictions and offer a hotline where people can get help. These are already strict rules in place and should not be improved in my opinion. Looking at the alcohol or tobacco industry, I would say that that both of them are more harmful to humans than gambling. Also there are more people addicted to cigarettes or alcohol than to gambling. Addictions can happen with many things in life, there is usually other problems involved than just the addiction itself. That's why saying that gambling industry is at fault is wrong. It's easier for the family to put the guilt on the gambling sector, when in reality they should have also helped their son to take a break from gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Scripture on March 07, 2022, 08:05:44 PM
Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

Of course, the law and protection against gambling addiction should be improved. I think there is not enough information on the risks of gambling. The fact that the law does not deal with the threats can be seen, for example, by the fact that at the moment there is a very popular among streamers to show how easily they win in casinos. Of course, they play for fake money and get paid by the casino, but young people don't know it and think it's so easy to win. The dream of easy, huge money makes them start gambling and at best they lose everything and at worst, they get addicted.
The government should be more strict as well on hunting the illegal gamblers because this is where gamblers gets become more addict because of no limit on their activities and the government should enforce more the social responsibility of every gambling site. Having a greedy and addicted mindset can corrupt yourself and you might ended up in a much worse scenario, if you don’t want this to happen to you start controlling yourself as well.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Oceat on March 07, 2022, 08:10:53 PM
Addiction is addiction, it doesn't matter what it is as long as you can't control yourself or stop from keep doing the same routine then you really need help. Medications aren't enough itself if you, yourself won't help to change or cope up what's best and what is bad for you.

The government might be trying their best to help those in trouble but for some countries like the third world countries, there isn't enough people who could afford to go and ask for their help when all they could offer in exchange is nothing. Except for the self-awareness that they were fucked up.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: uneng on March 07, 2022, 08:16:17 PM
This made me go further in the article to find more about Gambling disorder, according to the current education, it's categorized under impulsive disorder, in the US they are actually treated with medicine like : Mood stabilizers, Opioids, antidepressants and antipsychotic pills.
Since it's an impulsive disorder it means the problem isn't with gambling itself, but with the individual who can't control his impulses, actions and emotions. If the disorder doesn't manifest with gambling, it will possibly manifest in another areas of the individual's life where he won't be able to control himself as well. So the solution isn't to modify laws to make them stricter, otherwise every activities people could get addicted to will have to be forbidden too. It seems the solution on short term are the medicines you mentioned above and on long term therapies like cognitive behavioral therapy, which will help the person to improve his capacity of dealing with his emotions, thoughts and feelings.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: 24Kt on March 07, 2022, 08:18:39 PM
Addiction is addiction, it doesn't matter what it is as long as you can't control yourself or stop from keep doing the same routine then you really need help. Medications aren't enough itself if you, yourself won't help to change or cope up what's best and what is bad for you.

The government might be trying their best to help those in trouble but for some countries like the third world countries, there isn't enough people who could afford to go and ask for their help when all they could offer in exchange is nothing. Except for the self-awareness that they were fucked up.

Medications are just temporary treatment but to get out from this addiction is to totally change the lifestyle of the person. He needs professional help while he is starting a new life because it would be too difficult at the early stage. He needs to know the reason why he is changing for the betterment of his life. Because without strong will and reason, he will only go back to where he was. Not many countries can dedicate this kind of assistance because as you said, there are other more important things to attend to. Now, it is on the person himself if he wants to change or not. This is the brutal truth.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: robelneo on March 07, 2022, 09:39:55 PM


Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


Unfortunately in my country, there's no campaign for treatment  for gambling disorders as far as I know you have to do this on your own by seeking professional help on your own, even though gambling in our country is one of our country's cash cows and the casinos are managed by the government if gambling is an expensive addiction so is the treatment and it needs the help of the family and professional to cure this disease.

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Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance
yes and no, they have a warning about responsible gambling and some features that will not allow you to gamble for a period of time they are here for entertainment but it's the individual's lack of control that harm them.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Mahanton on March 07, 2022, 09:49:35 PM
Addiction is addiction, it doesn't matter what it is as long as you can't control yourself or stop from keep doing the same routine then you really need help. Medications aren't enough itself if you, yourself won't help to change or cope up what's best and what is bad for you.

The government might be trying their best to help those in trouble but for some countries like the third world countries, there isn't enough people who could afford to go and ask for their help when all they could offer in exchange is nothing. Except for the self-awareness that they were fucked up.

Medications are just temporary treatment but to get out from this addiction is to totally change the lifestyle of the person. He needs professional help while he is starting a new life because it would be too difficult at the early stage. He needs to know the reason why he is changing for the betterment of his life. Because without strong will and reason, he will only go back to where he was. Not many countries can dedicate this kind of assistance because as you said, there are other more important things to attend to. Now, it is on the person himself if he wants to change or not. This is the brutal truth.
The first thing you should do is to help yourself and if you couldnt able to get rid still of your addiction problem then this is the time you would really be needing some professional help or help from others
and it is true that addiction is something that couldnt really be that easy to solve with but it isnt impossible to solve out but it would really start on yourself first.
There are services which might be available but we know that it wouldnt really be that cheap as far as im hearing.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: crzy on March 07, 2022, 09:56:12 PM
Addiction is addiction, it doesn't matter what it is as long as you can't control yourself or stop from keep doing the same routine then you really need help. Medications aren't enough itself if you, yourself won't help to change or cope up what's best and what is bad for you.

The government might be trying their best to help those in trouble but for some countries like the third world countries, there isn't enough people who could afford to go and ask for their help when all they could offer in exchange is nothing. Except for the self-awareness that they were fucked up.
There’s no medication for addiction, but a rehab can be a big help and I agree that not everyone can afford that because it will take a lot of money and time before you totally recover, and some are not able to reach that stage. Addiction in gambling can really ruin your life, so help yourself to avoid it and don’t expect a big help from any gambling site, be more responsible.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Doell on March 07, 2022, 09:58:36 PM
Indeed mental disorders such as gambling addicts must see a psychiatrist, such treatment may be very useful for most addicts. In my country if there are addicts then they will go to the doctor but depending on the economic capacity as well, there are those who run to shamans or are left alone until they become crazy. The regulations in my country are strict if a gambler is caught gambling, he is immediately jailed.

And yeah so far there's no medicines directly intended for such kind of gambling addictions made available as of now and only psychiatrists can help those affected gambling addict on their situation. But above all, all these medications and consultation will not be enough if theres no cooperation or willingness that the gambling addict show for the treatment of his addiction. I think this kind of problem should be addressed properly with the help of government.
Of course, government assistance must be on there to embrace such addiction disorders, happy too if there is a government like in the US that's can help suppress addiction, as @fiulpro said at above.
Well in fact prisons have also been provided by the government so that they can do activities and approach with an open mind for any addicts to be free from addiction, but no one is willing go to prison either. The government in my country judges from the point of view of the law and the applicable subsection, but the subsection is that a person who gambles must be punished first for a deterrent effect. I think There should be a special place to clear the mind from addiction, like a mental hospital not prison that's so sad because a gambler is not a criminal, we want fun but are lulled by the fun.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: blockman on March 07, 2022, 09:59:15 PM
Well, for rich countries that have made the gambling industry part of the country where it's taking a big revenue share, they really have programs for the addicted gamblers.
But as far as I know, in other countries that don't have to take much attention to this, there's nothing that you can see on how they act with addicted gamblers.
IMHO, I think instead of medical treatment, it should be more with counseling and psychological treatment.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Wexnident on March 07, 2022, 10:01:34 PM
From what I know in our country it's the usual offering of help for gamblers that has problems, exclusion to using casinos depending on their financial situation (or whenever signs of gambling disorders come up, such as mood swings, excessive stays in casinos, etc.,). On one note though, I honestly think medication is just a temporary stop measure, it doesn't actually help in solving the root of the problem. It's like putting a stop gap, and if not resolved within that time frame where the medication is effective, i hardly doubt people could get over addiction. As to how to stop it, well, not really sure, I think it varies from person to person?


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Renampun on March 07, 2022, 10:03:54 PM
Addiction is addiction, it doesn't matter what it is as long as you can't control yourself or stop from keep doing the same routine then you really need help. Medications aren't enough itself if you, yourself won't help to change or cope up what's best and what is bad for you.

The government might be trying their best to help those in trouble but for some countries like the third world countries, there isn't enough people who could afford to go and ask for their help when all they could offer in exchange is nothing. Except for the self-awareness that they were fucked up.
those who do not have self-awareness, their whole life will be very chaotic...

only yourself must be fully responsible for what you do, you can't blame others for what happened to you, gambling addiction occurs because you don't realize that you have a big responsibility towards yourself. those who do not have a sense of responsibility towards themselves will only bring misery to their personal and family lives. Don't expect the government to treat your addiction in full, they won't be fully responsible for it, they just do what they're told.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Yogee on March 07, 2022, 10:13:06 PM
... Do you think the laws needs improvement?

Law changes depends on how severe the situation is in each country. I don't think it's necessary using the case of the 24 year old boy. He started out at around a legal age so it's not like he's not aware of what he's doing.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Slow death on March 07, 2022, 10:21:54 PM
Do you think the laws needs improvement?

the law doesn't need to be improved, on all gambling sites it's there well written in the TOS: "prohibited for under 18"

people shouldn't blame gambling sites, addiction is people's fault, there are people who are addicted to alcohol, but i don't see blaming breweries, so why would we blame gambling sites when Does anyone become addicted to gambling?

Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

this is not true, the gambling industry is playing their part, and it is up to each person to control themselves when playing


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: South Park on March 07, 2022, 10:27:02 PM
I was going through my feed when I saw this article :
 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp)

According to the article the parents of the 24 Year old teacher blamed inadequate Gambling treatment and medicines available right now, also improper assesment of Gambling disorder. Their son became an addict by using fixed odds at the age of 16-17 and ultimately his addiction spiralled out of control.

This made me go further in the article to find more about Gambling disorder, according to the current education, it's categorized under impulsive disorder, in the US they are actually treated with medicine like : Mood stabilizers, Opioids, antidepressants and antipsychotic pills.

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

Gambling addiction without a doubt is a problem, unlike those which are addicted to consuming substances to alter their mood in some way or form the one that is addicted to gambling suffers from a behavioral addiction, which in many cases can be even more difficult to cure, so in that aspect the parents are not wrong, however I really think they are trying to shift away the responsibility from their son, after all it is not as if anyone forced him to did what he did and he failed himself at restricting those impulses, and now he is suffering the consequences of those mistakes.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: cabron on March 07, 2022, 10:39:42 PM

Lucky are those who are born in a country where people have the capacity to spend tax money on gamblers who couldn't control thier impulsiveness. If they are not in such a country like the US, these gamblers are going to be robbing anyone just so they can have some cash to gamble again.  Very unfortunate for someone in other countries, thier gambling addiction will go worse.

Yes law needs improvement. I guess if the casinos will indeed ask for KYC, the casino must do something good with thier KYC or the information they got. IF they see the person is impulsive which behavior could potentially make them addicted, maybe limit the game time of the person.

Make use of the KYC information of the casinos. If they learn the person doesn't really have money but just accidentally got there because friends visited a casino and he was tagged along, maybe limit his access after that day. But because the casino is a business, that's not possible.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: gagux123 on March 07, 2022, 10:51:40 PM
Unfortunately this is bad news to read!

Curiously and as incredible as it may seem, today I read a news on a website that Casinos and Gambling may be allowed in the country where I live, after almost 70 years of prohibition.

Of course, this was a Bill and it will be voted on in the Senate, but depending on the situation, gambling may be allowed here.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: chaser15 on March 07, 2022, 11:05:56 PM
Do you think the laws needs improvement?

Regardless of the laws being strict or needing improvement, they can't fully control each and everyone's will on doing gambling. That's beyond of law's control and the only solution I'm seeing to help gambling problems is for the people to help themselves.

No matter how the law was improved if people will ignore it since they are now getting deeply fall on doing gambling nothing will change.

That's the reality that's happening everywhere.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: arwin100 on March 07, 2022, 11:16:47 PM
I was going through my feed when I saw this article :
 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp)

According to the article the parents of the 24 Year old teacher blamed inadequate Gambling treatment and medicines available right now, also improper assesment of Gambling disorder. Their son became an addict by using fixed odds at the age of 16-17 and ultimately his addiction spiralled out of control.

This made me go further in the article to find more about Gambling disorder, according to the current education, it's categorized under impulsive disorder, in the US they are actually treated with medicine like : Mood stabilizers, Opioids, antidepressants and antipsychotic pills.

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


There's a law already available for that maybe what we need here is proper education towards gambling is needed to improve since I rarely see gambling awareness program that's why many people think about this as normal things in life. Also people are in denial about their current situation in gambling that's why its hard for expert to asses those certain situation and help people who's already been addicted. That's why counseling and frequently educating maybe thru social media and other mainstream platform can help people realize more about the risk and how they can get out with it.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Rabi3 on March 07, 2022, 11:40:02 PM
Of course there are laws in every country about gambling and it's bad effects and how government are helping to curb those addictions, even stricter penalties. But I guess it's really up to the individual themselves, in the first place they know the dangers of gambling and yet they try to get into it and suffer the consequences. The government can only do that much, people need to help themselves if they don't want to get addicted and the bad effects of gambling in life.
I started gambling at the age of 16, and to be honest I didn't think that gambling is bad, it started when I was almost certain that a team will win a match, they needed it to avoid being relegated, so I searched and found a bookie that offers that and placed a bet on them and won, I didn't even know what I was getting myself into, I didn't know I will get addicted to it, so I was missing guidance and knowledge and even restrictions, and it is a serious addiction that can cost people their money and even their mental health, most people didn't know how serious gambling addiction is until they experienced it.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Vaskiy on March 07, 2022, 11:40:57 PM
Gambling addiction is a big problem around the world. Every country have got its own stance on the issue. In my country state have been given the rights to create it's policy on gambling. During the pandemic more gambling platforms have got existed and this has taken the lives of many people. Even after so many deaths of teenagers the government haven't taken any big step. This looks like the governments will receive funds/regular pay from these platforms.

As mentioned in the OP, de-addiction centre for gambling is a must in every country. As finance is involved, gambling is much connected to the emotional activities. This is why gambling addiction need to be treated at the right time, if not the end result will be very worse.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: harizen on March 07, 2022, 11:56:19 PM
Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

I'm fine with how the government is informing people here about the disadvantage of doing gambling. But as stated by others too, what's the sense of those shared information if it will be ignored mostly by people.

I don't like to be negative but it seems it's better to see that people will experience some gambling problems in order to learn something out it.

Being a responsible gambler requires a bitter experience.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: traderethereum on March 08, 2022, 02:28:31 AM
Even though in my country gambling is in a grey area, the government can control the level of gambling because people already understand the dangers of gambling.
Maybe it depends on the level of gambling addiction in a country and if that happens, maybe the government needs to revise their laws to work with the situation.
The role of parents and family is very important in the development of young people because they are still unstable at their age and easily influenced by their friends.
In addition, these young people need to have some self-control and a good level of awareness to know that something is not good.
It is not the gambling industry's fault, but there are factors from parents, family, environment that make young people look for something else that can satisfy themselves.
A child who grows up is like a clean white paper, depending on the parents how they can direct their child to do good and stay away from wrong.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: bitterguy28 on March 08, 2022, 02:40:32 AM


Do you think the laws needs improvement?
yes totally agreeing  in this mate, Improving the laws and the implementations so that gamblers and family's won't suffer that much because they have also some obligations to what the gamblers may come.
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Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

What I am thinking here? is that we as parents has a total responsibilities to what our children may come.

and imagine that the involve person is a 16-17 y/o when this happens.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on March 08, 2022, 02:43:08 AM
When viewed in terms of psychological effects, someone who experiences gambling depression will be vulnerable to things that make him down for what has made him lose. Some countries also often emphasize that this kind of depression is fatal to mental and health. Not a few psychiatrists who experience the same complaint, so therapy is still a good solution to overcome depression due to gambling.

It is not a matter of law that must be corrected, but different people's gambling perspectives have different negative impacts as well. In this case, it is customary to overcome the mentality gradually and be guided by a psychiatrist who specializes in the field of mental improvement.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: lienfaye on March 08, 2022, 02:56:33 AM
Laws needs improvement to minimize the cases of addiction that can lead to more serious problem. But there should be strict implementation and awareness so gamblers can manage to discipline themselves.

Being a responsible gambler requires a bitter experience.
Well, you're right. Sometimes we need to learned the hard way in order to realize our mistakes and to avoid repeating the same mistakes again.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Wexnident on March 08, 2022, 03:11:12 AM
Law changes depends on how severe the situation is in each country. I don't think it's necessary using the case of the 24 year old boy. He started out at around a legal age so it's not like he's not aware of what he's doing.
Well tbf, it started out at an age of 16-17, which spiraled out of control probably during that 6-7 year gap from when he first started. I guess they're blaming the medication and process and whatnot that the kid underwent for said years but still wasn't able to stop gambling. There are a lot of cases where influence on a young age actually tends to stay when we grow up after all, especially if the said activity was still being done even after the start up. Its kinda like a virus that grew worse and worse.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: ChiBitCTy on March 08, 2022, 04:29:20 AM
On one hand I think that the Government needs to fuck off for the most part and let people live their lives. Who are they to tell adults they shouldn’t be allowed to make bets? On the other hand I know it’s a serious issue, like drug addiction and I think it’s important there is help available if needed. Most people can handle it without problem, so in my opinion it’s not something that should ever be banned (for adults that is).


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Peanutswar on March 08, 2022, 05:05:13 AM
In the first place, the parents are responsible to guide their children to make a proper knowledge what are the things right and wrong, we cannot blame the government because the child get addicted the education start first in their house that's way better to educate their children first but at that rate of addiction and the parent's can't hold any more they can seek help for the government for like a physiatrist but if the child can handle the gambling things and can earn through this a good factor but still need to be guided.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Reatim on March 08, 2022, 05:29:08 AM
In the first place, the parents are responsible to guide their children to make a proper knowledge what are the things right and wrong,
that is the best point , we as parents must understand and learn what our children is doing and taking part.
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we cannot blame the government because the child get addicted
those guilty people wanted to look for others to be blamed for their own mistakes and irresponsible actions.
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the education start first in their house that's way better to educate their children first but at that rate of addiction
agreed totally , i myself is acting on this part because i don't want my child to go in different ways.
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and the parent's can't hold any more they can seek help for the government for like a physiatrist but if the child can handle the gambling things and can earn through this a good factor but still need to be guided.
This is what government and family needs to be part together, helping each other for the benefits of the child.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: acroman08 on March 08, 2022, 05:57:58 AM
According to the article the parents of the 24 Year old teacher blamed inadequate Gambling treatment and medicines available right now, also improper assesment of Gambling disorder. Their son became an addict by using fixed odds at the age of 16-17 and ultimately his addiction spiralled out of control.
I agree with her regarding the inadequate gambling treatment and medicines but it is unfair to solely blame everything on it. mental disorder is always complex and complicated, misdiagnosing is always possible.

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder?
NO! there is rarely any mention of gambling addiction/disorder in my country.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
YES!

Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?
YES! people may not like or completely deny it but it is true.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: coco23 on March 08, 2022, 05:58:31 AM
Hm just reading this, I don't think there is sth like a "Gambling disorder". I guess one can get addicted to it, just like other addictions that don't involve drug abuse (e.g. video games, social networks, porn or whatever). The treatment then should follow the standard procedure for this kind of illness (not sure what it is, I am no docter...)

Of course for younger people the parents play an important role to educate their children. School education should also play their part though.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: michellee on March 08, 2022, 06:05:16 AM
I guess it all comes down to each one because we know gambling is an activity that some people do in their spare time. If a child is addicted to gambling, it is not all the fault of the child or the gambling itself but it will be a big question, why the child can be like that. Of course, this also needs to be considered by every parent how they supervise their children. Maybe parents can accuse gambling of making their child addicted but maybe parents need to look at what causes their child to be like that. A child can't become addicted without a reason. It's like an addiction to playing games on a smartphone but this time, gambling uses money.

This is why parents need to wisely supervise their children and always remind their children to stay away from gambling and explain the consequences that will arise if they become addicted. And it will be the responsibility of the parents to supervise their children.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: davis196 on March 08, 2022, 06:11:03 AM
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This made me go further in the article to find more about Gambling disorder, according to the current education, it's categorized under impulsive disorder, in the US they are actually treated with medicine like : Mood stabilizers, Opioids, antidepressants and antipsychotic pills.

I guess that "big pharma" is really desperate to sell more drugs and make more money from of the poor gambling addicts.This is just as predatory as some parts of the gambling industry. >:(
I don't really think that gambling addiction can be cured with drugs,pills and remedies.It can be cured only by therapy and by the desire of the gambling addict to solve his mental problem and to get out of his toxic condition.
It has been proven multiple times that some antidepressants can lead to addiction.
Nobody can solve a gambler's problem,by turning one addiction into another.



Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: ropyu1978 on March 08, 2022, 06:15:31 AM
Indeed mental disorders such as gambling addicts must see a psychiatrist, such treatment may be very useful for most addicts. In my country if there are addicts then they will go to the doctor but depending on the economic capacity as well, there are those who run to shamans or are left alone until they become crazy. The regulations in my country are strict if a gambler is caught gambling, he is immediately jailed.
Gambling addiction can cause us to lose everything, not only money but we will also lose our lives, we can also go crazy, every country must have its own regulations, people who gamble are definitely provided with their own platform by the state, in my country also restricts people who gamble. playing gambling, if they play gambling in crowded places and in public places, it is certain that the government will arrest them, but if they gamble in the places that have been provided, they will definitely be safe, in my opinion if people are addicted to playing gambling, it can be said that the person already has a mental disorder, and they must be handled immediately by the authorities.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: dothebeats on March 08, 2022, 06:53:00 AM
This isn't the fault of lack of medications nor intervention therapy, but rather poor parenting that lead to the addiction of the teenager. Parents often shift the blame to the lack of professional management strategies from healthcare professionals, but apparently it's within their initial care which is the problem. I don't know if any drugs can help gambling addicts to recover, but I do know that intervention on the onset of gambling addiction greatly helps in curbing addicts to go deeper to the rabbit hole.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Dart18 on March 08, 2022, 06:53:53 AM
I believe this also depends on how the a child was raised. If there is discipline in the house, (the real one) then a child will take it until he grows to a man. I don't see the problem in gambling as long as you know your limits and the discipline made by your parents will be the one shielding you from that responsibility to control it.
Don't give a child money, he can't do it. Don't give them your credit card accounts, they can't do it. If its their own money they will be spending to gamble then it will be their problem if they got broke and unable to buy their own food. I learned all of that hard with my parents and until now it's stuck in my brain.
There are other issues outside of what I said but it gives me a difficult time to understand it. Gambling addiction is surely a big problem but I don't understand how it happened with others who had their parents supporting them.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Poker Player on March 08, 2022, 07:00:02 AM
I was going through my feed when I saw this article :
 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp)
...

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

I had not heard the term gambling disorder as such, as a clinical term. But of course I have heard of problem gamblers.

I am not a big fan of regulations but it seems to me that the gambling sector is one that needs to be policed by the public authorities, otherwise they have a tendency to destroy lives to make money.

Regarding the laws, I think that the current ones are fine even if they can be improved, and especially to control more the illegal gambling, which escapes the regulations. Although it is never possible to control everything 100%.

I believe this also depends on how the a child was raised.

There are many factors. I believe that the person who has these exaggerated problems with gambling and ends up committing suicide, had previous problems and gambling behavior is a symptom. But a person can go through a bad period and then have a full life. If when that person has a bad period he/she falls into gambling, he/she can end up very badly. That is why I believe that the public authorities have to control the gambling industry.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on March 08, 2022, 08:35:34 AM
It baffles me as well as overwhelms me when I see how things that are ordinary nothing becomes a very big problem when done too much.
And then, what pops up in my mind is -
Porn addiction - I can understand cus I've been there
Food addiction - I can understand too
Movie addiction
Phone addiction
Drug addiction - includes alcohol and hard drugs
Smoking addiction
Music addiction.
All this addictions, I can understand but then, gambling addiction is what I don't really understand how it happens, what's the really big fun in gambling that someone should get so addicted to it? Is a question I ask myself most time, maybe I don't understand because I don't gamble alot, so probably it's not my thing.

I had a friend way back in 2016 who gambled until he lost everything, his wife took their only child and left him because feeding became a big problem, as the guy hardly keeps money, ones he gets his salary, he will spend almost everything on gambling, and even when he wins, he ends up spending all his winnings right there in the game shop, even after he's family left him, he still never stopped gambling, and till today, when ever the issue of gambling addiction is discussed, am really wondering within myself, what really drives gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: goldkingcoiner on March 08, 2022, 08:48:19 AM
I was going through my feed when I saw this article :
 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp)

According to the article the parents of the 24 Year old teacher blamed inadequate Gambling treatment and medicines available right now, also improper assesment of Gambling disorder. Their son became an addict by using fixed odds at the age of 16-17 and ultimately his addiction spiralled out of control.

This made me go further in the article to find more about Gambling disorder, according to the current education, it's categorized under impulsive disorder, in the US they are actually treated with medicine like : Mood stabilizers, Opioids, antidepressants and antipsychotic pills.

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


From what I am reading, it would seem that the Healthcare industry has a *predatory* stance. Why on earth would anyone give Opioids or antipsychotics to a gambling addict? Hes not private Ryan with his legs blown off or a schizophrenic. A gambling addiction is just like any other addiction. Fat people are food addicts, perverts are sex addicts, crackheads are drug addicts. There are ways to deal with them and help them out of financial trouble situations or offer medical advice, but an addict is an addict. Its just how their brain is wired. Not much you can do about that.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 08, 2022, 09:22:14 AM
It's double edged sword, I can say gambling is good and could make extra money, but I can't blame other people if they said gambling is bad and you'll always lose due to house edge. So it's really depends on each person opinions regarding a matter and I don't think laws need a improvements, if someone really wanted to gambling even he have addiction... he will do anything to make him can gamble again.

To stop gambling addiction, the addicts need to have own motive and spirit to stop... therapist, doctor and parents only an assistance to help you, they can't make you stop 100%.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: yazher on March 08, 2022, 10:38:43 AM
Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


Honestly, I've heard of Gambling addiction but never heard of Gambling Disorder and the treatment for it is crucial for the patient's rehabilitation. I wonder if they conduct such seminars to the poorest community in our country because whenever I attend the topic are always sex transmitted diseases and growing crops to counter the dramatically increased of the poorest population without even having any alternatives for the high price of foods. That's why they cannot stop it even though they have nothing on the food table anymore because maybe some of them have already addicted and got this kind of disorder.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: TopT3ns on March 08, 2022, 11:15:18 AM
Actually on gambling site have term of service not about rule with how to begin gambling but also almost gambling site give warning for gambler about risk when begin betting, I think all people have know what the risk and effect with gambling and many of expert in gambling never use their saving money. Almost have country allowed with gambling as legal site but not any law when how much money do you on gambling site, check again with rule with gambling and have to know about risk before you loss everything in gambling and you need ready if keep try with gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: aioc on March 08, 2022, 11:16:32 AM
I was going through my feed when I saw this article :
 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp)

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


The article is very disheartening the parents should always be the first to go if parents lose their child this way it's a lifetime of mourning, I hope they can cope, the big lesson we can learn here is whenever there is a sign of addiction even it may look harmless and the gambler can still keep up, we must always look for a sign if left uncontrol it can lead to loss of mind and life, gambling should be played moderately 5 or more hours of playing can be considered high risk already.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: ultrloa on March 08, 2022, 11:48:18 AM
I was going through my feed when I saw this article :
 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp)

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


The article is very disheartening the parents should always be the first to go if parents lose their child this way it's a lifetime of mourning, I hope they can cope, the big lesson we can learn here is whenever there is a sign of addiction even it may look harmless and the gambler can still keep up, we must always look for a sign if left uncontrol it can lead to loss of mind and life, gambling should be played moderately 5 or more hours of playing can be considered high risk already.

For parents if they see their kids is participating on any gambling activities maybe the best thing they can do is to guide them since base on our experience early days in gambling is the most crucial one since from this where addiction mostly started and this is really destructive didn't assest properly.  And for surr once they already experience all the risk they can counter all things and can able do proper planning upon their play time so proper guidance is really needed by new gamblers.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Distinctin on March 08, 2022, 11:51:11 AM
Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


I guess there's nothing to improve, gambling addiction is the fault of the gamblers, it's not the operators. If they allow the liquor producer and people get addicted to liquor, would that mean the production should be stopped? of course NO!


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Peanutswar on March 08, 2022, 11:58:29 AM
Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


I guess there's nothing to improve, gambling addiction is the fault of the gamblers, it's not the operators. If they allow the liquor producer and people get addicted to liquor, would that mean the production should be stopped? of course NO!

If the number of cases in a particular place or country that's the time that the government might take an action but if just a few counts or does not trigger the whole community itself there's no need for the government presence instead the relatives or any people on that environment of the person is the responsible to make sure their companion are still in a good health or not already addicted.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: LogitechMouse on March 08, 2022, 12:01:25 PM
According to the article the parents of the 24 Year old teacher blamed inadequate Gambling treatment and medicines available right now, also improper assesment of Gambling disorder. Their son became an addict by using fixed odds at the age of 16-17 and ultimately his addiction spiralled out of control.
Well, that is what most of the time happens when a gambler can't control himself and become addicted to gambling.
I've seen people online that got addicted in gambling to the point that they will borrow money to their colleagues and will sell most of what they have just to have money to use to either recover their losses or to just gamble itself because they are addicted already. Ending? They will be depressed and I don't know if there are some who are committing suicide because of it but I hope they aren't thinking of it.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

I think there are laws in every country regarding gambling but with gambling right now mostly online already because of the pandemic, I doubt that the government can make law improvements especially with the age limit that is allowed to gamble. Gambling can change your life positively or negatively and as an adult and as a gambler, we should know the consequences that gambling might give to us.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: passwordnow on March 08, 2022, 12:25:17 PM
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?
Without their guidance to their kids, the emotion can't be handle by those young minds. That's why not just in gambling but also in other things, they have to guide their kids.
Everything that's out of their control can have a predatory stance and even to the people that they're talking with. It just have to be guided by them and explain what are do's and don'ts that their children has to understand about gambling. Addiction is a serious problem and even them as parents, they might not be able to handle it.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: bisdak40 on March 08, 2022, 12:34:46 PM
Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

I'm living in a developing country and this problem is not discussed openly or i think people/gamblers on my country could not even recognized that they have this problem.

I would agree that indeed this is a serious problem because i have seen it myself where a wealthy person goes broke because of uncontrolled gambling but treating persons involved is not even in their minds IMO.

Ironically, leaders of our country even encouraged us (though not openly) to gamble as gambling generates billions of pesos in a short period of time so i could say that every country differs their approach on this problem and this might not be a problem to some.  


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: noorman0 on March 08, 2022, 01:26:38 PM
My country does not have laws protecting gambling addicts which are basically illegal, so no medication or drugs specifically for addicts are available in public places. Generally, regulated treatment is only obtained for gambling convicts (such as rehabilitation and counseling) while they are in prison where it is intended that they really stop gambling completely.
However, any type of treatment will not be able to help cure gambling addiction, it all depends on the individual's willingness to want to get out of their addiction. There's no one to blame.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: dimonstration on March 08, 2022, 01:41:00 PM
I think there are laws in every country regarding gambling but with gambling right now mostly online already because of the pandemic, I doubt that the government can make law improvements especially with the age limit that is allowed to gamble. Gambling can change your life positively or negatively and as an adult and as a gambler, we should know the consequences that gambling might give to us.
When it comes in online gambling, rules and laws are not that strict it my country as government where not yet able to provide a system or law that will focus on monitoring to strictly implement the existing laws for physical gambling into online. No matter how strict they are physically to stop gambling and avoid people to be addicted and experience gambling disorder it is now hard to monitors it online.  They just somehow wait if there will be a report in their office for some complaints or report if there are people who still operates listed illegal gambling games listed in law thru online. If there is no report made people behind that is free to continue their operation.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: ralle14 on March 08, 2022, 01:53:13 PM
Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder?

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

I've seen more and more online casinos getting promoted in our country but there's barely any awareness about gambling addiction.

Imo change is inevitable so yes there's always room for improving the laws when it comes to gambling.

As to what the parents mentioned, it's definitely true but you can say the same thing for the other industries that causes addiction as the other guys above me already mentioned the other types of addiction which can also become life threatening when it gets out of hand.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Gozie51 on March 08, 2022, 01:55:44 PM


This made me go further in the article to find more about Gambling disorder, according to the current education, it's categorized under impulsive disorder, in the US they are actually treated with medicine like : Mood stabilizers, Opioids, antidepressants and antipsychotic pills.




Disorder is what it is. It doesn't come because of gambling I think so. When a person brain malfunctions then it is a disorder and not necessarily because of gambling. There are factors that can expose someone to a disorder. Apart from gen that was inherited, factors like excessive smoking and consumption of hard drugs that are not recommended by physician can cause disorder. So gambling don't cause disorder but you can become an addict.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: coin-investor on March 08, 2022, 02:11:02 PM


Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


Yes, it really needs improvement but casinos are the government's cash cow and a goose that lays golden eggs they are not going to kill it or even restrict, the more people playing the more money comes in and the more tax they can squeeze on these casinos I believe it's predatory because newbies are coming to gambling without knowledge on how bad it is and how we should control ourselves, the government should step up and make sure that gambling is only for those who are looking for entertainment and actually playing to be entertained.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: iv4n on March 08, 2022, 02:21:14 PM
This made me go further in the article to find more about Gambling disorder, according to the current education, it's categorized under impulsive disorder, in the US they are actually treated with medicine like : Mood stabilizers, Opioids, antidepressants and antipsychotic pills.
Disorder is what it is. It doesn't come because of gambling I think so. When a person brain malfunctions then it is a disorder and not necessarily because of gambling. There are factors that can expose someone to a disorder. Apart from gen that was inherited, factors like excessive smoking and consumption of hard drugs that are not recommended by physician can cause disorder. So gambling don't cause disorder but you can become an addict.

Some people are just weak ... I don't think it can be described otherwise! And so weak they get into something they can't control which eats them in the end! This guy who killed himself because of gambling just couldn't stand the pressure, if it wasn't for gambling something else would probably have happened to him! When you are weak, you have to be more careful, to be more careful with the choice of activities! If this is not the case, something like this will happen, and there are many such cases!
We all face various good and bad things all our lives and sooner or later each of us gets into a situation of trying to take a too big bite! Whether we will survive or whether it will suffocate us depends on many factors! One thing is for sure, we learn from it and that's how we gain life experience!

I simply can't blame the game here, it is what it is! It is up to us to take care of ourselves and to know our possibilities! When this is not taken into account, when someone goes beyond the limits of possibility the problems will arise, sooner or later, small or big ones!


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Maus0728 on March 08, 2022, 02:49:55 PM
I simply can't blame the game here, it is what it is! It is up to us to take care of ourselves and to know our possibilities! When this is not taken into account, when someone goes beyond the limits of possibility the problems will arise, sooner or later, small or big ones!
Similar to this one..

- https://www.reddit.com/r/problemgambling/comments/743aaf/gambling_addict_life_is_over/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Reading that person's experiences would actually make you believe that the only solution for all the problems that piled up due to excessive gambling is "death". Well, It's not about being morbid but it's just because death is the only solution you see for all of the shit that's happening on your life.

Also, while there are some empirical studies that suggests cognitive-behavioral therapy[1] are that ones that produces promising result in gambling addiction, I still believe that having a community where people can freely discuss their gambling issues without prejudice are some of the alternatives people can lean on.

[1] https://journals.lww.com/co-psychiatry/Abstract/2021/09000/Treatment_of_gambling_disorder__review_of.11.aspx


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Cling18 on March 08, 2022, 03:09:29 PM
I was going through my feed when I saw this article :
 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp)

According to the article the parents of the 24 Year old teacher blamed inadequate Gambling treatment and medicines available right now, also improper assesment of Gambling disorder. Their son became an addict by using fixed odds at the age of 16-17 and ultimately his addiction spiralled out of control.

This made me go further in the article to find more about Gambling disorder, according to the current education, it's categorized under impulsive disorder, in the US they are actually treated with medicine like : Mood stabilizers, Opioids, antidepressants and antipsychotic pills.

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that the Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


Unfortunately, our government doesn't have any program to help people who are experiencing gambling addiction but they're supporting huge gambling businesses because they are benefiting from it. In our country, if you won't help yourself out, you'll totally ruin your life in gambling because we couldn't expect help from the government. Gambling companies here are being run by politicians so they prefer more people that would fall for gambling more.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: og kush420 on March 08, 2022, 03:18:18 PM


Some people are just weak ... I don't think it can be described otherwise! And so weak they get into something they can't control which eats them in the end! This guy who killed himself because of gambling just couldn't stand the pressure, if it wasn't for gambling something else would probably have happened to him! When you are weak, you have to be more careful, to be more careful with the choice of activities! If this is not the case, something like this will happen, and there are many such cases!
We all face various good and bad things all our lives and sooner or later each of us gets into a situation of trying to take a too big bite! Whether we will survive or whether it will suffocate us depends on many factors! One thing is for sure, we learn from it and that's how we gain life experience!

I simply can't blame the game here, it is what it is! It is up to us to take care of ourselves and to know our possibilities! When this is not taken into account, when someone goes beyond the limits of possibility the problems will arise, sooner or later, small or big ones!
Weak people do not gamble. I disagree weak people gamble. People who have daring nature and are ready to take risks gamble. They can withstand the rush of adrenal in the body as well which a weak person won’t. 



Unfortunately, our government doesn't have any program to help people who are experiencing gambling addiction but they're supporting huge gambling businesses because they are benefiting from it. In our country, if you won't help yourself out, you'll totally ruin your life in gambling because we couldn't expect help from the government. Gambling companies here are being run by politicians so they prefer more people that would fall for gambling more.
Gambling is banned in our county and you would not find any legal casino in our country.  Because it is not appreciated in our culture as it’s a sin and would not bring any benefit.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: KTChampions on March 08, 2022, 04:03:56 PM
In the first place, the parents are responsible to guide their children to make a proper knowledge what are the things right and wrong, we cannot blame the government because the child get addicted the education start first in their house that's way better to educate their children first but at that rate of addiction and the parent's can't hold any more they can seek help for the government for like a physiatrist but if the child can handle the gambling things and can earn through this a good factor but still need to be guided.

As I see it, modern parents find it more profitable to look for those responsible for not being able to educate/give the necessary knowledge to their child. I wonder if they ever thought it was their responsibility? Infantile people annoy me because they end up making everyone else uncomfortable.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: coco23 on March 08, 2022, 04:12:04 PM
In the first place, the parents are responsible to guide their children to make a proper knowledge what are the things right and wrong, we cannot blame the government because the child get addicted the education start first in their house that's way better to educate their children first but at that rate of addiction and the parent's can't hold any more they can seek help for the government for like a physiatrist but if the child can handle the gambling things and can earn through this a good factor but still need to be guided.
As I see it, modern parents find it more profitable to look for those responsible for not being able to educate/give the necessary knowledge to their child. I wonder if they ever thought it was their responsibility? Infantile people annoy me because they end up making everyone else uncomfortable.
I know what you mean. Many parents nowadays do not properly educate their children. However, this is the reason why there should be some alternative education coming from the public institutions, mainly in school.
There is practically no legal requirement for having children, which is why often irresponsible people end up with a high number of them unfortunately.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: xSkylarx on March 08, 2022, 04:43:11 PM
Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


I guess there's nothing to improve, gambling addiction is the fault of the gamblers, it's not the operators. If they allow the liquor producer and people get addicted to liquor, would that mean the production should be stopped? of course NO!

If the number of cases in a particular place or country that's the time that the government might take an action but if just a few counts or does not trigger the whole community itself there's no need for the government presence instead the relatives or any people on that environment of the person is the responsible to make sure their companion are still in a good health or not already addicted.

I believe there is, and that people are aware of it as well. According to what I've heard from other countries about gambling addiction, most people who are diagnosed with it will be prescribed medication, which will be provided by private doctors and will cost you money. I'm not sure if the government will be providing assistance, as I haven't heard of them providing assistance for this type of need. Those who are in desperate need of help will usually seek treatment from mental health professionals. Hoping for some kind of clarification from the government on this policy, as well as any kind of assistance for those who require medication attention due to addiction.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: DU18 on March 08, 2022, 05:01:18 PM
In the first place, the parents are responsible to guide their children to make a proper knowledge what are the things right and wrong, we cannot blame the government because the child get addicted the education start first in their house that's way better to educate their children first but at that rate of addiction and the parent's can't hold any more they can seek help for the government for like a physiatrist but if the child can handle the gambling things and can earn through this a good factor but still need to be guided.

As I see it, modern parents find it more profitable to look for those responsible for not being able to educate/give the necessary knowledge to their child. I wonder if they ever thought it was their responsibility? Infantile people annoy me because they end up making everyone else uncomfortable.
Different times maybe different parenting styles applied by parents to their children, as in today modern era, many parents consider nurses or maids to be an alternative to raising their children, so that without them realizing it, children will slowly grow up without having emotional closeness or empathy for their own parents, besides that I do not agree with what you say about alternative education, indeed schools are needed to teach children to find their identity but parents have full responsibility to educate children and in my opinion if people Parents themselves not have concern in educating children, so how can we expect other people/nurses or teachers maybe?


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: iv4n on March 08, 2022, 05:07:52 PM
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Similar to this one..

- https://www.reddit.com/r/problemgambling/comments/743aaf/gambling_addict_life_is_over/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Reading that person's experiences would actually make you believe that the only solution for all the problems that piled up due to excessive gambling is "death". Well, It's not about being morbid but it's just because death is the only solution you see for all of the shit that's happening on your life.

This so-called solution is actually running away from problems, running away from taking responsibility for your actions! And in this story, it is clear that the boy is under a lot of pressure, instead of facing the problem and trying to solve the problem, he decides to surrender! That probably seems like the easiest and best choice! Choosing to fight and survive is the one that is hard or can be, for sure it's not the same for everyone!

Also, while there are some empirical studies that suggests cognitive-behavioral therapy[1] are that ones that produces promising result in gambling addiction, I still believe that having a community where people can freely discuss their gambling issues without prejudice are some of the alternatives people can lean on.

[1] https://journals.lww.com/co-psychiatry/Abstract/2021/09000/Treatment_of_gambling_disorder__review_of.11.aspx

Nothing without a strong community and good people! I totally agree with this! A man must have someone to talk to when it is difficult, that there are people around him who will understand him without any prejudices, people with whom he will be able to engage in other activities, if there isn't that then that man probably has no way out of a desperate situation of any kind!

...
Weak people do not gamble. I disagree weak people gamble. People who have daring nature and are ready to take risks gamble. They can withstand the rush of adrenal in the body as well which a weak person won’t. 

You don't know how weak/strong you are until you get into a situation that will require you to show it! As I side, some people overestimate their possibilities and they get into the problem! Some manage to deal with that, some don't! But it's the point where can be seen how weak/strong you really are, just under a pressure!


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: Oceat on March 08, 2022, 06:48:26 PM
Addiction is addiction, it doesn't matter what it is as long as you can't control yourself or stop from keep doing the same routine then you really need help. Medications aren't enough itself if you, yourself won't help to change or cope up what's best and what is bad for you.

The government might be trying their best to help those in trouble but for some countries like the third world countries, there isn't enough people who could afford to go and ask for their help when all they could offer in exchange is nothing. Except for the self-awareness that they were fucked up.
those who do not have self-awareness, their whole life will be very chaotic...

only yourself must be fully responsible for what you do, you can't blame others for what happened to you, gambling addiction occurs because you don't realize that you have a big responsibility towards yourself. those who do not have a sense of responsibility towards themselves will only bring misery to their personal and family lives. Don't expect the government to treat your addiction in full, they won't be fully responsible for it, they just do what they're told.
Of course, they were just following orders because it's their work, they shouldn't be in that kind of work if they don't treat their patient who has a problem. They exist because of people who has a problem in addiction and if they don't treat well their patient how would their patient heal?

It may be their problem once they were addicted but casinos should stop and help people who's in trouble because of them that's why most people are having an addiction problem. And it's a long story if we trace the source of all evil thing that causes the problem. ::)


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: milewilda on March 08, 2022, 07:11:50 PM
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Unfortunately, our government doesn't have any program to help people who are experiencing gambling addiction but they're supporting huge gambling businesses because they are benefiting from it. In our country, if you won't help yourself out, you'll totally ruin your life in gambling because we couldn't expect help from the government. Gambling companies here are being run by politicians so they prefer more people that would fall for gambling more.
Government is after tax and didn’t whether it will affect their people’s living. Sure, they have laws prohibiting some occurrences but we didn’t know if it’s really implemented. Once gamblers become addicted, there are private medication centers that will be costly to enroll or to get in to finish the treatment. There are no support that can be given by the government unless one will commit themselves as addicted and will ask for therapies.
They would only put focus or response into those situations that is already making up some noise but considering that not all addicted person would tell or share out their problems then it is not really
that rampant to be seen these kind of situations and its true that government wouldnt really be exchanging out huge  tax revenues for some several people who had been looking for some addiction
help.So its better not to think about help or something like that because it would less likely to happen.No one would able to help yourself but only you.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: KTChampions on March 08, 2022, 08:24:03 PM
As I see it, modern parents find it more profitable to look for those responsible for not being able to educate/give the necessary knowledge to their child. I wonder if they ever thought it was their responsibility? Infantile people annoy me because they end up making everyone else uncomfortable.
Different times maybe different parenting styles applied by parents to their children, as in today modern era, many parents consider nurses or maids to be an alternative to raising their children, so that without them realizing it, children will slowly grow up without having emotional closeness or empathy for their own parents, besides that I do not agree with what you say about alternative education, indeed schools are needed to teach children to find their identity but parents have full responsibility to educate children and in my opinion if people Parents themselves not have concern in educating children, so how can we expect other people/nurses or teachers maybe?

If I remember correctly what I am writing, then I did not write anything about alternative education  ;D When I talk about raising kids, I'm not talking about homeschooling. The school gives knowledge, and parents should give a sense of responsibility and common sense. On the other hand, how can I want this when even adults make mistakes and then blame anyone but themselves  ;D
But in any case, you can not indulge in such behavior - if you lost money in gambling, then you are to blame, if you overeat, then you are to blame again and not the food industry.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: sunsilk on March 08, 2022, 08:49:33 PM
Government is after tax and didn’t whether it will affect their people’s living. Sure, they have laws prohibiting some occurrences but we didn’t know if it’s really implemented. Once gamblers become addicted, there are private medication centers that will be costly to enroll or to get in to finish the treatment. There are no support that can be given by the government unless one will commit themselves as addicted and will ask for therapies.
There are countries where their government is very worried about their citizens. And that includes the gambling habit of their people, whether teenagers or adults.

Maybe in general there really is no support because of what we've been able to see with our governments.

But there could be those countries that are too caring with their citizens and they're giving the help and aid that those addicted gamblers needed just like the special attention that they need.


Title: Re: Gambling Disorder ?
Post by: 24Kt on March 08, 2022, 08:52:16 PM
As I see it, modern parents find it more profitable to look for those responsible for not being able to educate/give the necessary knowledge to their child. I wonder if they ever thought it was their responsibility? Infantile people annoy me because they end up making everyone else uncomfortable.
Different times maybe different parenting styles applied by parents to their children, as in today modern era, many parents consider nurses or maids to be an alternative to raising their children, so that without them realizing it, children will slowly grow up without having emotional closeness or empathy for their own parents, besides that I do not agree with what you say about alternative education, indeed schools are needed to teach children to find their identity but parents have full responsibility to educate children and in my opinion if people Parents themselves not have concern in educating children, so how can we expect other people/nurses or teachers maybe?

If I remember correctly what I am writing, then I did not write anything about alternative education  ;D When I talk about raising kids, I'm not talking about homeschooling. The school gives knowledge, and parents should give a sense of responsibility and common sense. On the other hand, how can I want this when even adults make mistakes and then blame anyone but themselves  ;D
But in any case, you can not indulge in such behavior - if you lost money in gambling, then you are to blame, if you overeat, then you are to blame again and not the food industry.

That's nice logic.  ;D If you become obese, don't blame McDonald's. Something like that. So yes, the discipline comes from the person himself. And maybe, who he is today is partly owed to the kind of family he grew up with. So somehow, the parents or guardians have influence on the personality of the individual. But later on in our life, as we become adults, we will have our own realizations in life and from that point, we should know how to change our path if we want to truly change our lifestyle. It is not because of your parents or your siblings anymore. Because it is your life that is in question here, whether you will live to what you used to be or change for the better? You are now old enough to know which one is best for you.