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March 07, 2022, 06:07:21 PM
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Any drug addiction starts with small dosages and gradually the dosages increase as the body quickly becomes addicted to any substance. If a person cannot cope with gambling addiction on his own, it is a mistake to think that he will be able to stop using antidepressants or opiates which are offered to him as treatment.  
true, after all, antidepressant drugs only have a short function, after that the user will return to his opiate

Early childhood education on gambling, sex and drugs is very important, because, without proper education and direction, young people will become addicts who are difficult to stop

In my country, I have noticed that this kind of education has begun to decrease, so that underage addicts (drugs, sex and gambling) are increasing. it takes hard work from the government to be able to minimize the damage that occurs to the younger generation

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March 07, 2022, 06:13:12 PM
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I have seen several people who was hardly devastated financially because of the uncontrollable gambling addiction. I have to agree that the government should be aware of this and give more attention to a rising cases for gambling addiction, however, due to the tons of government issues my country is facing, this kind of disorder have always been overlooked and were taken lightly.
I guess the first step to this is to hold the gambling company liable for such cases. The gambling company should be at least the first to know If there is a significant increase of betting amount and gambling time for an individual, thus they should reach out to this individual, and then the gambling company will be the one to report it to the authorities so the government will take action from there.
For sure government are aware of this, but maybe they are torn because the money generated by the casinos is huge for them. I guess the money they received can somewhat help those who are addicted and they can set up facilities to help those people. Yes, people are to blame here, but at least the government have the responsibilities to help and take action.

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March 07, 2022, 06:31:30 PM
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I was going through my feed when I saw this article :
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp

According to the article the parents of the 24 Year old teacher blamed inadequate Gambling treatment and medicines available right now, also improper assesment of Gambling disorder. Their son became an addict by using fixed odds at the age of 16-17 and ultimately his addiction spiralled out of control.

This made me go further in the article to find more about Gambling disorder, according to the current education, it's categorized under impulsive disorder, in the US they are actually treated with medicine like : Mood stabilizers, Opioids, antidepressants and antipsychotic pills.

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


It's a tough situation because the persons age is definitely the point of contention here. Nobody who is 16-17 should be allowed anywhere near such gambling machines because their brain is still developing and they might get hooked on gambling much easier than somebody older. There should be a cut off, say 21 or 25, where people need to at some point take responsibility for their own actions - whether that is abstaining entirely and/or getting appropriate treatment. However gambling companies are often quite subversive in how they target younger generations and it often takes regulators a lot time to take corrective actions. I feel bad for the person in the article, but they should not have been allowed on the premises or be able to use such machines in the first place, maybe the owners of the property with the gaming machines on (that make a nice profit) also need to share responsibility.

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March 07, 2022, 06:42:39 PM
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Any drug addiction starts with small dosages and gradually the dosages increase as the body quickly becomes addicted to any substance. If a person cannot cope with gambling addiction on his own, it is a mistake to think that he will be able to stop using antidepressants or opiates which are offered to him as treatment.
Maybe not, the treatment done by a specialist will not make a person addicted forever because they will reduce the dose to a smaller than before that is adjusted to the behavior and level of addiction to gambling or something else.

Not everyone likes gambling addiction treatment with antidepressants or the like because there are other things that are more likely to be done without taking drugs. These are all just solutions and they shouldn't do it if they don't like it. If it's me, then I prefer to do activities that are more beneficial to reduce the desire to gamble, much less likely to be exposed to drugs.

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March 07, 2022, 06:43:21 PM
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Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

Of course, the law and protection against gambling addiction should be improved. I think there is not enough information on the risks of gambling. The fact that the law does not deal with the threats can be seen, for example, by the fact that at the moment there is a very popular among streamers to show how easily they win in casinos. Of course, they play for fake money and get paid by the casino, but young people don't know it and think it's so easy to win. The dream of easy, huge money makes them start gambling and at best they lose everything and at worst, they get addicted.

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March 07, 2022, 06:47:35 PM
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I have seen several people who was hardly devastated financially because of the uncontrollable gambling addiction. I have to agree that the government should be aware of this and give more attention to a rising cases for gambling addiction, however, due to the tons of government issues my country is facing, this kind of disorder have always been overlooked and were taken lightly.
I guess the first step to this is to hold the gambling company liable for such cases. The gambling company should be at least the first to know If there is a significant increase of betting amount and gambling time for an individual, thus they should reach out to this individual, and then the gambling company will be the one to report it to the authorities so the government will take action from there.
For sure government are aware of this, but maybe they are torn because the money generated by the casinos is huge for them. I guess the money they received can somewhat help those who are addicted and they can set up facilities to help those people. Yes, people are to blame here, but at least the government have the responsibilities to help and take action.
Thats why we are seeing some countries ban out gambling to protect their citizens out of addiction and dont mind about tax revenues that they could possibly get but in most places this is one of the biggest contributor

when it comes to economic taxes which it is normal for government to mind or give out some priorities but somehow they do give out some services which do really help out those addicted gamblers.
There are some consulting services or something like that which do solve out the possible problems ahead.

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March 07, 2022, 07:01:14 PM
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Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


In my country for any form of gambling you need to be at least 18 years old, this is very strictly enforced. Any casinos allowing minors to gamble will lose their licence, I needed to show my ID always when entering a physical casino, even for just watching and not playing myself. As for the advertising it is also highly regulated, any form of ads need to mention that gambling can lead to addictions and offer a hotline where people can get help. These are already strict rules in place and should not be improved in my opinion. Looking at the alcohol or tobacco industry, I would say that that both of them are more harmful to humans than gambling. Also there are more people addicted to cigarettes or alcohol than to gambling. Addictions can happen with many things in life, there is usually other problems involved than just the addiction itself. That's why saying that gambling industry is at fault is wrong. It's easier for the family to put the guilt on the gambling sector, when in reality they should have also helped their son to take a break from gambling.
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March 07, 2022, 08:05:44 PM
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Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

Of course, the law and protection against gambling addiction should be improved. I think there is not enough information on the risks of gambling. The fact that the law does not deal with the threats can be seen, for example, by the fact that at the moment there is a very popular among streamers to show how easily they win in casinos. Of course, they play for fake money and get paid by the casino, but young people don't know it and think it's so easy to win. The dream of easy, huge money makes them start gambling and at best they lose everything and at worst, they get addicted.
The government should be more strict as well on hunting the illegal gamblers because this is where gamblers gets become more addict because of no limit on their activities and the government should enforce more the social responsibility of every gambling site. Having a greedy and addicted mindset can corrupt yourself and you might ended up in a much worse scenario, if you don’t want this to happen to you start controlling yourself as well.
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March 07, 2022, 08:10:53 PM
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Addiction is addiction, it doesn't matter what it is as long as you can't control yourself or stop from keep doing the same routine then you really need help. Medications aren't enough itself if you, yourself won't help to change or cope up what's best and what is bad for you.

The government might be trying their best to help those in trouble but for some countries like the third world countries, there isn't enough people who could afford to go and ask for their help when all they could offer in exchange is nothing. Except for the self-awareness that they were fucked up.

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March 07, 2022, 08:16:17 PM
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This made me go further in the article to find more about Gambling disorder, according to the current education, it's categorized under impulsive disorder, in the US they are actually treated with medicine like : Mood stabilizers, Opioids, antidepressants and antipsychotic pills.
Since it's an impulsive disorder it means the problem isn't with gambling itself, but with the individual who can't control his impulses, actions and emotions. If the disorder doesn't manifest with gambling, it will possibly manifest in another areas of the individual's life where he won't be able to control himself as well. So the solution isn't to modify laws to make them stricter, otherwise every activities people could get addicted to will have to be forbidden too. It seems the solution on short term are the medicines you mentioned above and on long term therapies like cognitive behavioral therapy, which will help the person to improve his capacity of dealing with his emotions, thoughts and feelings.

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March 07, 2022, 08:18:39 PM
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Addiction is addiction, it doesn't matter what it is as long as you can't control yourself or stop from keep doing the same routine then you really need help. Medications aren't enough itself if you, yourself won't help to change or cope up what's best and what is bad for you.

The government might be trying their best to help those in trouble but for some countries like the third world countries, there isn't enough people who could afford to go and ask for their help when all they could offer in exchange is nothing. Except for the self-awareness that they were fucked up.

Medications are just temporary treatment but to get out from this addiction is to totally change the lifestyle of the person. He needs professional help while he is starting a new life because it would be too difficult at the early stage. He needs to know the reason why he is changing for the betterment of his life. Because without strong will and reason, he will only go back to where he was. Not many countries can dedicate this kind of assistance because as you said, there are other more important things to attend to. Now, it is on the person himself if he wants to change or not. This is the brutal truth.
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Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?


Unfortunately in my country, there's no campaign for treatment  for gambling disorders as far as I know you have to do this on your own by seeking professional help on your own, even though gambling in our country is one of our country's cash cows and the casinos are managed by the government if gambling is an expensive addiction so is the treatment and it needs the help of the family and professional to cure this disease.

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yes and no, they have a warning about responsible gambling and some features that will not allow you to gamble for a period of time they are here for entertainment but it's the individual's lack of control that harm them.

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Addiction is addiction, it doesn't matter what it is as long as you can't control yourself or stop from keep doing the same routine then you really need help. Medications aren't enough itself if you, yourself won't help to change or cope up what's best and what is bad for you.

The government might be trying their best to help those in trouble but for some countries like the third world countries, there isn't enough people who could afford to go and ask for their help when all they could offer in exchange is nothing. Except for the self-awareness that they were fucked up.

Medications are just temporary treatment but to get out from this addiction is to totally change the lifestyle of the person. He needs professional help while he is starting a new life because it would be too difficult at the early stage. He needs to know the reason why he is changing for the betterment of his life. Because without strong will and reason, he will only go back to where he was. Not many countries can dedicate this kind of assistance because as you said, there are other more important things to attend to. Now, it is on the person himself if he wants to change or not. This is the brutal truth.
The first thing you should do is to help yourself and if you couldnt able to get rid still of your addiction problem then this is the time you would really be needing some professional help or help from others
and it is true that addiction is something that couldnt really be that easy to solve with but it isnt impossible to solve out but it would really start on yourself first.
There are services which might be available but we know that it wouldnt really be that cheap as far as im hearing.

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March 07, 2022, 09:56:12 PM
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Addiction is addiction, it doesn't matter what it is as long as you can't control yourself or stop from keep doing the same routine then you really need help. Medications aren't enough itself if you, yourself won't help to change or cope up what's best and what is bad for you.

The government might be trying their best to help those in trouble but for some countries like the third world countries, there isn't enough people who could afford to go and ask for their help when all they could offer in exchange is nothing. Except for the self-awareness that they were fucked up.
There’s no medication for addiction, but a rehab can be a big help and I agree that not everyone can afford that because it will take a lot of money and time before you totally recover, and some are not able to reach that stage. Addiction in gambling can really ruin your life, so help yourself to avoid it and don’t expect a big help from any gambling site, be more responsible.
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Indeed mental disorders such as gambling addicts must see a psychiatrist, such treatment may be very useful for most addicts. In my country if there are addicts then they will go to the doctor but depending on the economic capacity as well, there are those who run to shamans or are left alone until they become crazy. The regulations in my country are strict if a gambler is caught gambling, he is immediately jailed.

And yeah so far there's no medicines directly intended for such kind of gambling addictions made available as of now and only psychiatrists can help those affected gambling addict on their situation. But above all, all these medications and consultation will not be enough if theres no cooperation or willingness that the gambling addict show for the treatment of his addiction. I think this kind of problem should be addressed properly with the help of government.
Of course, government assistance must be on there to embrace such addiction disorders, happy too if there is a government like in the US that's can help suppress addiction, as @fiulpro said at above.
Well in fact prisons have also been provided by the government so that they can do activities and approach with an open mind for any addicts to be free from addiction, but no one is willing go to prison either. The government in my country judges from the point of view of the law and the applicable subsection, but the subsection is that a person who gambles must be punished first for a deterrent effect. I think There should be a special place to clear the mind from addiction, like a mental hospital not prison that's so sad because a gambler is not a criminal, we want fun but are lulled by the fun.

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Well, for rich countries that have made the gambling industry part of the country where it's taking a big revenue share, they really have programs for the addicted gamblers.
But as far as I know, in other countries that don't have to take much attention to this, there's nothing that you can see on how they act with addicted gamblers.
IMHO, I think instead of medical treatment, it should be more with counseling and psychological treatment.

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From what I know in our country it's the usual offering of help for gamblers that has problems, exclusion to using casinos depending on their financial situation (or whenever signs of gambling disorders come up, such as mood swings, excessive stays in casinos, etc.,). On one note though, I honestly think medication is just a temporary stop measure, it doesn't actually help in solving the root of the problem. It's like putting a stop gap, and if not resolved within that time frame where the medication is effective, i hardly doubt people could get over addiction. As to how to stop it, well, not really sure, I think it varies from person to person?

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March 07, 2022, 10:03:54 PM
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Addiction is addiction, it doesn't matter what it is as long as you can't control yourself or stop from keep doing the same routine then you really need help. Medications aren't enough itself if you, yourself won't help to change or cope up what's best and what is bad for you.

The government might be trying their best to help those in trouble but for some countries like the third world countries, there isn't enough people who could afford to go and ask for their help when all they could offer in exchange is nothing. Except for the self-awareness that they were fucked up.
those who do not have self-awareness, their whole life will be very chaotic...

only yourself must be fully responsible for what you do, you can't blame others for what happened to you, gambling addiction occurs because you don't realize that you have a big responsibility towards yourself. those who do not have a sense of responsibility towards themselves will only bring misery to their personal and family lives. Don't expect the government to treat your addiction in full, they won't be fully responsible for it, they just do what they're told.



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March 07, 2022, 10:13:06 PM
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... Do you think the laws needs improvement?

Law changes depends on how severe the situation is in each country. I don't think it's necessary using the case of the 24 year old boy. He started out at around a legal age so it's not like he's not aware of what he's doing.
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March 07, 2022, 10:21:54 PM
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Do you think the laws needs improvement?

the law doesn't need to be improved, on all gambling sites it's there well written in the TOS: "prohibited for under 18"

people shouldn't blame gambling sites, addiction is people's fault, there are people who are addicted to alcohol, but i don't see blaming breweries, so why would we blame gambling sites when Does anyone become addicted to gambling?

Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

this is not true, the gambling industry is playing their part, and it is up to each person to control themselves when playing

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