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We know markets will crash and huge deflation...and economy will melt down....but is there any good ways make good profit out of this chaos? Other then just betting on short positions ? Any other ways to benefit of this global crashes and bankcrypcies around the world?
Right now we know we can do a lot shorting the market but what else gives nice profit ?

Do you mean to say inflation instead?

Make a lot of source of income from different businesses and investments that you have. And another one, if you're employed, don't leave your job so that you have a secured and expected money to come in every 15 days or monthly or weekly while working with those businesses that you have.

I guess there is no secret sauce here, just continue to invest on cryptos, real state, gold and other commodities.

Short positions is for those who knows how to play the market, but if you are looking for quick flip in war or in inflation, I don't think there is one. Still the old and traditional financial markets are the best way to hedge and make profits long term.

You will keep investing in cryptocurrency in a nice coin because after the crash then the market will rise again. The crashing now does not mean that the price will stay down forever and bear is good time for more accumulation.



Buying of land is one sure investment apart from cryptocurrency. Land has appreciation value and it keeps making appreciative profit while it is used for whatever purpose.

Let's say you have $100,000USD and you're dealing with a currency that is rapidly losing its value versus the USD, in this case take TRY.

You're a soothsayer and know that TRY is going to hell in a hand basket, so here's one way to profit:

1. Take a loan for the equivalent of $100,000USD in TRY; use your USD as proof that you can pay the loan in a heartbeat
2. Once you have the loan, push your $100,000USD out of the country. Leaving it in the same country as TRY makes it subject to forfeiture and forced conversion that is inevitable in order to protect TRY
3. Use the loaned TRY to buy real estate (preferably in a dense urban area). You don't want to buy rural because of the taxes. You want to buy urban because of commercial real estate potential
4. As TRY continues to lose value, siphon small amounts from your USD to pay the interest of your TRY loan

over time you will profit like a king.

Because traditional assets have proven their worth time and time again. Crypto is still very new and the high volatility factor is one major consideration of many why they are not very confident on this market. Also, not many people can tolerate this market, so some of them are opting to go for tangible assets, which they are very familiar of. Maybe, just invest on what you think you are confident with and you think is better for your hard-earned money. You are the one responsible for your financial needs so you have the last say when it comes to this financial decision.

The way the markets are these days. What you think should happen means that usually the opposite will happen.

Remember last covid crash. People were expecting the last ATH of the stock indices to get tested. They said the stock markets will get hammered. And what happened instead? The biggest stock market rally we have ever seen.

Look at price of oil now. It’s at $100 and was $135 last week and before invasion was like $97. The entire move corrected itself. Tons of traders are now holding losing long positions from $120 and up.

It’s not that easy to profit off of anything these days.

My way of investing does not change because of the situation in the world. It is a simple way: save, invest by doing DCA and forget about the macroeconomic situation. It is a strategy that has been working for many decades, and, although this does not guarantee that the same thing will happen in the future, I have no rational argument to think otherwise. The OP is looking for some strategy similar to playing roulette and winning, I'll pass on that.

Yeah,right.That's a genius plan.I wonder why almost nobody is doing it and making millions. ;D
1.I don't think that exporting 100K USD outside of Turkey is legal,but I'm not sure.
2.No bank is going to give you loan,knowing that you might get out with the money into a foreign country.
3.The banks usually want collaterals that are bigger than the amount you want to borrow.120%-130%
4.There are some fees,when applying for a loan.You would also need to provide a business plan for the loan.
5.At some point,the Turkish central bank will raise the interest rates.All the banks in Turkey will also raise the interest rates.Good luck with paying off a loan,that has a big interest rate.
6.I don't get it.You want to convert the Turkish lira into USD before you export the money outside Turkey or after you export the money? ;D

Well, some points are already explained on previous post but I'd like to add that even if you are lucky with your own roadmap you gonna be very surprised when you find that real estate prices are not rising as fast as TRY inflates and since you can buy and sell real estate in TRY then by buying real estate you will get an asset closely tight to TRY rates. Ofc it is better than burning your money in inflation but it is still a bad example of investing. In your example it would be much better just to buy USD (or stablecoins) and later repay your loan.

You can buy coins and assets at this time. Don't think about shorting, shorting is always a short term gain condition. The economy will recover but there will be these problems.

You can benefit from bankruptcy but you have to keep your nerve. When you have been keeping money stored for long time, this is the time to use that held cash and buy stuff.

Profit will come when you sell those same in future. Conditions are always transient but the point is to keep hanging on.

Ah, okay, you know all the answers then.

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Hahah. Okay you guys know everything.

Power to you, and good luck!

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This multitasking is where we are now, business at the same time working from the government. Challenging but when you see all your hard works are coming to fruition, all those wordiness and tiresome schedule fades away. Aside from having a stable income and an additional earnings from business, we have learned many things in entrepreneurship, meeting with different kinds of people. Another positive side is while the economy is slowly falling, we still can manage to buy the things we want. If we solely rely on government's payroll, we could still survive, although we are preparing for the future, saving
for emergency funds, whatever might happen we should be always ready right.

keep investing in various forms so that our money does not decrease in value due to inflation, crypto, stock options are good because you can start with limited money. When the world economic conditions improve, the price of our investment is very likely to increase. BTC investment is a good choice

Someone said above, if you have a day job do whatever you can to keep it, this will ensure a guaranteed earning (as long as you have the job) on a daily, weekly or monthly basis.

Investment is good, only if you have the money to invest, and you don't depend on it, otherwise you might want to look at investment you can earn passive income from, many projects nowadays offers different staking packages, both stablecoins and non stablecoins, and I think Anchor ust 20% apy staking as suggested above is a good option ^{for stablecoins staking}. And as for non stablecoins staking or farming ^{whichever suit you best} There are tones of good projects to choose from, just do your own research.

That is one way to prepare for the arrival of inflation that could happen at any time.
Investing in crypto can be a solution because we have many coins and can start with limited money.
If more people realized that crypto was a great way to start investing, they could see how their money would grow over time.
But whatever type of investment they will take, they should study before starting and never invest if you are not ready.

To every deflation there is always a corresponding inflation. When an inflation set in a decline in price keeps pushing against inflation but that doesn't mean the market keep moving in one direction there must always come a correction. in those situation you can possibly sell off and wait for further decline to buy more. crypto is all about profit and loss. Instead holding to a long loss. sell off at a new high after a major decline so the tendency to buy more can set in

If market will crash, that will be inflation not deflation, deflation is the rise in money vaue which is not possible during market crash.

The best way to make money during the time is that you should continue doing business, you can hold some assets like bitcoin or gold, or buy some profitable stocks. I will advice you to buy bitcoin which the best, you will make profit in long term.

Do not save fiat, it is the worst thing you can do.

Hold bitcoin.

Unfortunately we never know whether the market will go up or down, the best thing I did was immediately sell and switch to a stable coin when it was at least 15% profit, but when the market moves slowly like it is now then I don't do anything and wait for the moment I think good for buying or selling.

Certain things you can do to make sure the economic situation stays stable in your family :

1. Continue your studies, make sure you have a good degree
2. Save and invest in things like : Cryptocurrencies
3. Real estate is also an option if you do have a lot of money
4. Make your community self sustainable as well
5. Don't sell your assets at wrong time
6. Make your business in regards with covid restrictions as we
7. Don't waste money on unnecessary things

There are many things to maintain your economic situation and to make sure its stable but at the end of the day there is no rule book since everyone's personal situation is very different.

Even in the private sector, you can do it at the same time while managing and operating your businesses or just one. By experiencing such, it is going to make you a true entrepreneur because you'll experience hardship and probably a couple of losses by doing so.
It's part of running a business but you can deal with it since you have other source of income that can help temporarily to sustain the business that you're running.

Theoretically, a market crash without subsequent government policy to negate the effects can cause deflation.

Remember that deflation means lower prices, less demand for stuff, and a market crash would do exactly this, lower prices for shares for once and fewer returns as companies try to consolidate or avoid bankruptcies, an exodus of money into more secure stuff triggering further sellout, and poeple far less inclined to spend money on goods. The great depression is the perfect example, we had a market crash, assets were liquidated by cash-strapped companies, nobody had to buy them, ending with an average of 7% decline per year in prices.


So if a tesla share drops from 1000$ to 100$, how is that inflation?
If the housing bubble pops and houses go on fire sale for 1/4 of the price what do you call that?
Remember that the EU went into deflation both in 2009 and 2015  ;)

Buy on the dip as always and wont mind about the rest but the thing here is on which you would hesitate on doing investment due to some economic problem which might gotten worst.
This is why the key would really be on diversification on which it isnt really that simple or easy but its possible for you to make profits once the market would really
be having some recovery.We know that crypto market isnt really that much affected on external events on the market but you should be watchful on these times.

Obviously, the economy will suffer a setback due to the current crisis. But there are ways to get ahead, bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are here to stay, we have that option to be able to succeed. It is also good to invest in something that is profitable in the short term, think of something that is in your environment. If you have a main job keep it, don't leave it for something uncertain. The best way not to suffer in economic crises is to spend less and save more.

If you can call the right winners, you don't necessarily have to short. During the COVID-19 lockdowns, the winners were the pharma companies that produced a COVID vaccine, and Amazon that was able to capitalize on the boom in e-commerce due to restriction measures. Crypto becomes a whole lot harder to predict, because it correlates with other markets such that a crash in housing or stocks would also result in a crash in crypto. And trying to predict which precise crypto currency beats the others in a recovery is pure gambling.

Since he has mentioned about economy, I've thought of inflation instead. When the market crashes, inflation is what I've been thinking of but with that theoretical explanation, it's right and I've understand about the meaning of it. Prices would decrease and that's the deflation that he's telling and I'm thinking of the other effect for the economy. Well, either of the two as long as the effect would be giving negative impact to each individual, it is what we don't like to happen but it's inevitable.

You know.... us humans are no better than animals in the wild. Imagine this... people are dying in the Ukraine and people like you are trying to find ways to capitalize on that. We should be thinking of ways to help those people and how to generate some kind of momentum to assist in their crisis. (Wolf of Wall Street type of People)

The only people laughing all the way to the Bank now... are the Russians, because Oil & Gas prices are climbing through the roof and they have large reserves. The sanctions are not bothering them at all, because they have many alternative payment options to channel the payments for these Oil & Gas purchases. (Europe need the Gas to survive)  ::)

The problem with the inflation is: Costly stuff or overpayment for the things which were really cheap earlier. However, when it comes to the market its crashing in such period and thats added advantage for those who want to pull some investment. Its simple its cheap and you are getting discounted prices then hey why not? Just fill the portfolio with all the coins which you ever wanted to buy.

However, just make sure you dont imbalance between the daily needed expenses and what you investing. As we discussed its inflated times!

Don't save your money in piggy bank style, that's going to be depreciating together with the plummeting economy and rising inflation so your savings will end up useless when the inflation goes to the point that it's a total crisis, I think that this is the time that we also should consider investing in precious metals and even metals.

I think it's now happening. The inflation had attacked once again because we can see that prices of the goods are now increasing rapidly but it's not too late yet to get involved in cryptos and other investments because there might be more inflation to come in the future.

The economic problems can be a blessing of disguise for the people to get involved in crypto because their main objective is to invest or to safeguard their money but they will also realize soon that crypto can do more things apart from it. What makes crypto a good choice is that it only requires a little knowledge and like you guys said anyone can start with smaller amounts but this is something that can't be done on stocks and others.

Elon Musk became the richest man in the world by finding better methods to fulfill basic human needs like transportation. Jeff Bezos was the richest before him by fulfilling basic human needs relating to buying, selling and distribution of goods.

Everyone in the world now needs alternatives to oil. Whoever manages to fulfill this basic need could make billions in profit. Food prices are rising. Food growth and production is a good market to enter now. Shipping costs are rising. Shipping and trucking businesses are also a good investment. There are many options and opportunities a person can seize now, simply by looking at peoples needs and trying to offer better options.

Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies offer consumers, businesses and retailers better options in contrast to some traditional markets, which is also a big part of where its value and wealth derives from.

I think it's been happening for a while but people don't feel it and they only felt it after the war.
Yes, there is likely to be more inflation in the future and if we don't prepare for it now, we may have a hard time surviving.
Besides having investment, I think we also need to look for other sources of income and the more we can get it, it will really help us in preparing ourselves for inflation.
Crypto, which is currently booming, has become an important part of investing for people so if more and more people try to learn and start investing in crypto, they can feel it too.

I mean deflation rarely ever happens anywhere in the world; hence it is normal that we mix it with inflation. We had a 2 years period where inflation was so high that, a possible deflation where the prices go down could technically happen of course. Not an easy situation and I doubt it would happen, but if governments try their best to reverse what happened in the past 2 years, and even if not go back to how it once was, at least stop it and take it down a notch, deflation could be a possibility.

Nowadays, capitalism blocks it though, if the prices go down for one thing, the others would prefer more profits, so prices stay high even if they could go down.