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March 14, 2022, 07:19:25 PM
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We know markets will crash and huge deflation...and economy will melt down....but is there any good ways make good profit out of this chaos? Other then just betting on short positions ? Any other ways to benefit of this global crashes and bankcrypcies around the world?
Right now we know we can do a lot shorting the market but what else gives nice profit ?
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March 14, 2022, 08:30:35 PM
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We know markets will crash and huge deflation...and economy will melt down...
Do you mean to say inflation instead?

but is there any good ways make good profit out of this chaos? Other then just betting on short positions ? Any other ways to benefit of this global crashes and bankcrypcies around the world?
Right now we know we can do a lot shorting the market but what else gives nice profit ?
Make a lot of source of income from different businesses and investments that you have. And another one, if you're employed, don't leave your job so that you have a secured and expected money to come in every 15 days or monthly or weekly while working with those businesses that you have.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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March 14, 2022, 09:07:11 PM
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We know markets will crash and huge deflation...and economy will melt down....but is there any good ways make good profit out of this chaos? Other then just betting on short positions ? Any other ways to benefit of this global crashes and bankcrypcies around the world?
Right now we know we can do a lot shorting the market but what else gives nice profit ?
I guess there is no secret sauce here, just continue to invest on cryptos, real state, gold and other commodities.

Short positions is for those who knows how to play the market, but if you are looking for quick flip in war or in inflation, I don't think there is one. Still the old and traditional financial markets are the best way to hedge and make profits long term.

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March 14, 2022, 09:22:59 PM
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Other then just betting on short positions ? Any other ways to benefit of this global crashes and bankcrypcies around the world?


You will keep investing in cryptocurrency in a nice coin because after the crash then the market will rise again. The crashing now does not mean that the price will stay down forever and bear is good time for more accumulation.



Right now we know we can do a lot shorting the market but what else gives nice profit ?


Buying of land is one sure investment apart from cryptocurrency. Land has appreciation value and it keeps making appreciative profit while it is used for whatever purpose.

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March 14, 2022, 11:10:21 PM
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We know markets will crash and huge deflation...and economy will melt down....but is there any good ways make good profit out of this chaos? Other then just betting on short positions ? Any other ways to benefit of this global crashes and bankcrypcies around the world?
Right now we know we can do a lot shorting the market but what else gives nice profit ?

Let's say you have $100,000USD and you're dealing with a currency that is rapidly losing its value versus the USD, in this case take TRY.

You're a soothsayer and know that TRY is going to hell in a hand basket, so here's one way to profit:

1. Take a loan for the equivalent of $100,000USD in TRY; use your USD as proof that you can pay the loan in a heartbeat
2. Once you have the loan, push your $100,000USD out of the country. Leaving it in the same country as TRY makes it subject to forfeiture and forced conversion that is inevitable in order to protect TRY
3. Use the loaned TRY to buy real estate (preferably in a dense urban area). You don't want to buy rural because of the taxes. You want to buy urban because of commercial real estate potential
4. As TRY continues to lose value, siphon small amounts from your USD to pay the interest of your TRY loan

over time you will profit like a king.
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March 14, 2022, 11:15:49 PM
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We know markets will crash and huge deflation...and economy will melt down....but is there any good ways make good profit out of this chaos? Other then just betting on short positions ? Any other ways to benefit of this global crashes and bankcrypcies around the world?
Right now we know we can do a lot shorting the market but what else gives nice profit ?
I guess there is no secret sauce here, just continue to invest on cryptos, real state, gold and other commodities.

Short positions is for those who knows how to play the market, but if you are looking for quick flip in war or in inflation, I don't think there is one. Still the old and traditional financial markets are the best way to hedge and make profits long term.

Because traditional assets have proven their worth time and time again. Crypto is still very new and the high volatility factor is one major consideration of many why they are not very confident on this market. Also, not many people can tolerate this market, so some of them are opting to go for tangible assets, which they are very familiar of. Maybe, just invest on what you think you are confident with and you think is better for your hard-earned money. You are the one responsible for your financial needs so you have the last say when it comes to this financial decision.
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March 15, 2022, 03:39:02 AM
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The way the markets are these days. What you think should happen means that usually the opposite will happen.

Remember last covid crash. People were expecting the last ATH of the stock indices to get tested. They said the stock markets will get hammered. And what happened instead? The biggest stock market rally we have ever seen.

Look at price of oil now. It’s at $100 and was $135 last week and before invasion was like $97. The entire move corrected itself. Tons of traders are now holding losing long positions from $120 and up.

It’s not that easy to profit off of anything these days.

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March 15, 2022, 06:24:57 AM
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My way of investing does not change because of the situation in the world. It is a simple way: save, invest by doing DCA and forget about the macroeconomic situation. It is a strategy that has been working for many decades, and, although this does not guarantee that the same thing will happen in the future, I have no rational argument to think otherwise. The OP is looking for some strategy similar to playing roulette and winning, I'll pass on that.


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Let's say you have $100,000USD and you're dealing with a currency that is rapidly losing its value versus the USD, in this case take TRY.

You're a soothsayer and know that TRY is going to hell in a hand basket, so here's one way to profit:

1. Take a loan for the equivalent of $100,000USD in TRY; use your USD as proof that you can pay the loan in a heartbeat
2. Once you have the loan, push your $100,000USD out of the country. Leaving it in the same country as TRY makes it subject to forfeiture and forced conversion that is inevitable in order to protect TRY
3. Use the loaned TRY to buy real estate (preferably in a dense urban area). You don't want to buy rural because of the taxes. You want to buy urban because of commercial real estate potential
4. As TRY continues to lose value, siphon small amounts from your USD to pay the interest of your TRY loan

over time you will profit like a king.

Yeah,right.That's a genius plan.I wonder why almost nobody is doing it and making millions. Grin
1.I don't think that exporting 100K USD outside of Turkey is legal,but I'm not sure.
2.No bank is going to give you loan,knowing that you might get out with the money into a foreign country.
3.The banks usually want collaterals that are bigger than the amount you want to borrow.120%-130%
4.There are some fees,when applying for a loan.You would also need to provide a business plan for the loan.
5.At some point,the Turkish central bank will raise the interest rates.All the banks in Turkey will also raise the interest rates.Good luck with paying off a loan,that has a big interest rate.
6.I don't get it.You want to convert the Turkish lira into USD before you export the money outside Turkey or after you export the money? Grin

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Let's say you have $100,000USD and you're dealing with a currency that is rapidly losing its value versus the USD, in this case take TRY.

You're a soothsayer and know that TRY is going to hell in a hand basket, so here's one way to profit:

1. Take a loan for the equivalent of $100,000USD in TRY; use your USD as proof that you can pay the loan in a heartbeat
2. Once you have the loan, push your $100,000USD out of the country. Leaving it in the same country as TRY makes it subject to forfeiture and forced conversion that is inevitable in order to protect TRY
3. Use the loaned TRY to buy real estate (preferably in a dense urban area). You don't want to buy rural because of the taxes. You want to buy urban because of commercial real estate potential
4. As TRY continues to lose value, siphon small amounts from your USD to pay the interest of your TRY loan

over time you will profit like a king.

Well, some points are already explained on previous post but I'd like to add that even if you are lucky with your own roadmap you gonna be very surprised when you find that real estate prices are not rising as fast as TRY inflates and since you can buy and sell real estate in TRY then by buying real estate you will get an asset closely tight to TRY rates. Ofc it is better than burning your money in inflation but it is still a bad example of investing. In your example it would be much better just to buy USD (or stablecoins) and later repay your loan.
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March 15, 2022, 08:20:27 AM
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We know markets will crash and huge deflation...and economy will melt down....but is there any good ways make good profit out of this chaos? Other then just betting on short positions ? Any other ways to benefit of this global crashes and bankcrypcies around the world?
Right now we know we can do a lot shorting the market but what else gives nice profit ?
You can buy coins and assets at this time. Don't think about shorting, shorting is always a short term gain condition. The economy will recover but there will be these problems.

You can benefit from bankruptcy but you have to keep your nerve. When you have been keeping money stored for long time, this is the time to use that held cash and buy stuff.

Profit will come when you sell those same in future. Conditions are always transient but the point is to keep hanging on.

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Let's say you have $100,000USD and you're dealing with a currency that is rapidly losing its value versus the USD, in this case take TRY.

You're a soothsayer and know that TRY is going to hell in a hand basket, so here's one way to profit:

1. Take a loan for the equivalent of $100,000USD in TRY; use your USD as proof that you can pay the loan in a heartbeat
2. Once you have the loan, push your $100,000USD out of the country. Leaving it in the same country as TRY makes it subject to forfeiture and forced conversion that is inevitable in order to protect TRY
3. Use the loaned TRY to buy real estate (preferably in a dense urban area). You don't want to buy rural because of the taxes. You want to buy urban because of commercial real estate potential
4. As TRY continues to lose value, siphon small amounts from your USD to pay the interest of your TRY loan

over time you will profit like a king.

Yeah,right.That's a genius plan.I wonder why almost nobody is doing it and making millions. Grin
1.I don't think that exporting 100K USD outside of Turkey is legal,but I'm not sure.
2.No bank is going to give you loan,knowing that you might get out with the money into a foreign country.
3.The banks usually want collaterals that are bigger than the amount you want to borrow.120%-130%
4.There are some fees,when applying for a loan.You would also need to provide a business plan for the loan.
5.At some point,the Turkish central bank will raise the interest rates.All the banks in Turkey will also raise the interest rates.Good luck with paying off a loan,that has a big interest rate.
6.I don't get it.You want to convert the Turkish lira into USD before you export the money outside Turkey or after you export the money? Grin

Ah, okay, you know all the answers then.



Let's say you have $100,000USD and you're dealing with a currency that is rapidly losing its value versus the USD, in this case take TRY.

You're a soothsayer and know that TRY is going to hell in a hand basket, so here's one way to profit:

1. Take a loan for the equivalent of $100,000USD in TRY; use your USD as proof that you can pay the loan in a heartbeat
2. Once you have the loan, push your $100,000USD out of the country. Leaving it in the same country as TRY makes it subject to forfeiture and forced conversion that is inevitable in order to protect TRY
3. Use the loaned TRY to buy real estate (preferably in a dense urban area). You don't want to buy rural because of the taxes. You want to buy urban because of commercial real estate potential
4. As TRY continues to lose value, siphon small amounts from your USD to pay the interest of your TRY loan

over time you will profit like a king.

Well, some points are already explained on previous post but I'd like to add that even if you are lucky with your own roadmap you gonna be very surprised when you find that real estate prices are not rising as fast as TRY inflates and since you can buy and sell real estate in TRY then by buying real estate you will get an asset closely tight to TRY rates. Ofc it is better than burning your money in inflation but it is still a bad example of investing. In your example it would be much better just to buy USD (or stablecoins) and later repay your loan.

Hahah. Okay you guys know everything.

Power to you, and good luck!

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Make a lot of source of income from different businesses and investments that you have. And another one, if you're employed, don't leave your job so that you have a secured and expected money to come in every 15 days or monthly or weekly while working with those businesses that you have.

This multitasking is where we are now, business at the same time working from the government. Challenging but when you see all your hard works are coming to fruition, all those wordiness and tiresome schedule fades away. Aside from having a stable income and an additional earnings from business, we have learned many things in entrepreneurship, meeting with different kinds of people. Another positive side is while the economy is slowly falling, we still can manage to buy the things we want. If we solely rely on government's payroll, we could still survive, although we are preparing for the future, saving
for emergency funds, whatever might happen we should be always ready right.
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keep investing in various forms so that our money does not decrease in value due to inflation, crypto, stock options are good because you can start with limited money. When the world economic conditions improve, the price of our investment is very likely to increase. BTC investment is a good choice

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March 16, 2022, 05:47:22 AM
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Someone said above, if you have a day job do whatever you can to keep it, this will ensure a guaranteed earning (as long as you have the job) on a daily, weekly or monthly basis.

Investment is good, only if you have the money to invest, and you don't depend on it, otherwise you might want to look at investment you can earn passive income from, many projects nowadays offers different staking packages, both stablecoins and non stablecoins, and I think Anchor ust 20% apy staking as suggested above is a good option for stablecoins staking. And as for non stablecoins staking or farming whichever suit you best There are tones of good projects to choose from, just do your own research.

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March 16, 2022, 06:35:55 AM
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keep investing in various forms so that our money does not decrease in value due to inflation, crypto, stock options are good because you can start with limited money. When the world economic conditions improve, the price of our investment is very likely to increase. BTC investment is a good choice
That is one way to prepare for the arrival of inflation that could happen at any time.
Investing in crypto can be a solution because we have many coins and can start with limited money.
If more people realized that crypto was a great way to start investing, they could see how their money would grow over time.
But whatever type of investment they will take, they should study before starting and never invest if you are not ready.

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March 16, 2022, 07:15:44 AM
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To every deflation there is always a corresponding inflation. When an inflation set in a decline in price keeps pushing against inflation but that doesn't mean the market keep moving in one direction there must always come a correction. in those situation you can possibly sell off and wait for further decline to buy more. crypto is all about profit and loss. Instead holding to a long loss. sell off at a new high after a major decline so the tendency to buy more can set in
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March 16, 2022, 07:32:22 AM
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We know markets will crash and huge deflation...and economy will melt down....but is there any good ways make good profit out of this chaos? Other then just betting on short positions ? Any other ways to benefit of this global crashes and bankcrypcies around the world?
Right now we know we can do a lot shorting the market but what else gives nice profit ?
If market will crash, that will be inflation not deflation, deflation is the rise in money vaue which is not possible during market crash.

The best way to make money during the time is that you should continue doing business, you can hold some assets like bitcoin or gold, or buy some profitable stocks. I will advice you to buy bitcoin which the best, you will make profit in long term.

Do not save fiat, it is the worst thing you can do.

Hold bitcoin.

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March 16, 2022, 02:48:40 PM
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To every deflation there is always a corresponding inflation. When an inflation set in a decline in price keeps pushing against inflation but that doesn't mean the market keep moving in one direction there must always come a correction. in those situation you can possibly sell off and wait for further decline to buy more. crypto is all about profit and loss. Instead holding to a long loss. sell off at a new high after a major decline so the tendency to buy more can set in

Unfortunately we never know whether the market will go up or down, the best thing I did was immediately sell and switch to a stable coin when it was at least 15% profit, but when the market moves slowly like it is now then I don't do anything and wait for the moment I think good for buying or selling.



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March 16, 2022, 03:07:23 PM
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Certain things you can do to make sure the economic situation stays stable in your family :

1. Continue your studies, make sure you have a good degree
2. Save and invest in things like : Cryptocurrencies
3. Real estate is also an option if you do have a lot of money
4. Make your community self sustainable as well
5. Don't sell your assets at wrong time
6. Make your business in regards with covid restrictions as we
7. Don't waste money on unnecessary things

There are many things to maintain your economic situation and to make sure its stable but at the end of the day there is no rule book since everyone's personal situation is very different.

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