Title: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: fiulpro on April 20, 2022, 01:55:20 PM We all understand the value of e-sports in today's era and it is indeed a great deal is a company is all set to develop more free e-sports games
According to the reports Incentive Games have already signed up to do the following, they have already developed 21 e-sports games and of which 14 are totally free to play as well, therefore getting in cannot be more affordable. They would be focused on games such us : Quote The first game developed for Esports Technologies will centre around the Counter Strike: Global Offensive marketplace, with further plans to develop Dota 2, League of Legends and Valorant-inspired games Now e-sports technologies and incentive games have now entered a license agreement where they would be providing the users more free to play games using their algorithms based on free to play games in the casinos as well. This can be a game changer since most of the times in e-sports having to pay to wager and play can be a big deal for small players, this can not only help them secure a wide range of audience but it can also help change the whole e-sports gaming as a whole. Don't forget to check out the source : https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16044/incentive-games-signs-up-to-develop-free-to-play-games-for-esports-technologies (https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16044/incentive-games-signs-up-to-develop-free-to-play-games-for-esports-technologies) What do you think ? Are you going to play on these platforms? I do believe most of the users might already be using them and seeing this incentive get bigger would certainly bring joy with increasing the free game diversity on the sites. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: ethereumhunter on April 20, 2022, 04:29:41 PM If the game were completely free and paid for the players, maybe it would interest the players who have played the game before. We know that CounterStrike, DOTA, and so on have a lot of players and if it could be integrated into something new, it would make e-sports even bigger.
It is interesting because we might see a new e-sports game that we probably haven't seen before. So it's better if we wait for further news from the developer so we know what the game is like. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: dothebeats on April 20, 2022, 05:15:21 PM Lots of gamers around the world would be happy to be incentivized for the hours they put in to the game. A lot of people are dreaming to get inside the world of esports like their idols, but in order to do this, lots of huge sacrifices should be made first before they can even enter this lucrative world. If someone can bring it closer to a lot of people, it will definitely be a hit and lots will support it. The video gaming industry is still expanding, and if they can integrate gambling, incentives, and gaming all in one, it will be a nice niche market that a lot of people can enjoy.
Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Fortify on April 20, 2022, 05:37:20 PM We all understand the value of e-sports in today's era and it is indeed a great deal is a company is all set to develop more free e-sports games According to the reports Incentive Games have already signed up to do the following, they have already developed 21 e-sports games and of which 14 are totally free to play as well, therefore getting in cannot be more affordable. They would be focused on games such us : Quote The first game developed for Esports Technologies will centre around the Counter Strike: Global Offensive marketplace, with further plans to develop Dota 2, League of Legends and Valorant-inspired games Now e-sports technologies and incentive games have now entered a license agreement where they would be providing the users more free to play games using their algorithms based on free to play games in the casinos as well. This can be a game changer since most of the times in e-sports having to pay to wager and play can be a big deal for small players, this can not only help them secure a wide range of audience but it can also help change the whole e-sports gaming as a whole. Don't forget to check out the source : https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16044/incentive-games-signs-up-to-develop-free-to-play-games-for-esports-technologies (https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16044/incentive-games-signs-up-to-develop-free-to-play-games-for-esports-technologies) What do you think ? Are you going to play on these platforms? I do believe most of the users might already be using them and seeing this incentive get bigger would certainly bring joy with increasing the free game diversity on the sites. I'm really struggling to understand what is new or innovative about what they're doing, besides this press release with all the usual buzzwords to hype themselves up. Almost every sports betting site in the world has been offering bets these really old games like Counterstrike, Dota 2 and League of Legends for probably a decade now. Are they saying they're going to downright copy and clone these games to offer a free version, because that seems to be a blatant way to get yourself in trouble for trademark infringement if they look very similar. People play those really old games because the player base has established over a long time, so you might be able to replicate the idea but you simply won't be able to draw in enough players to make it worthwhile unless you offer something drastically new. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Fatunad on April 20, 2022, 07:59:21 PM Lots of gamers around the world would be happy to be incentivized for the hours they put in to the game. A lot of people are dreaming to get inside the world of esports like their idols, but in order to do this, lots of huge sacrifices should be made first before they can even enter this lucrative world. If someone can bring it closer to a lot of people, it will definitely be a hit and lots will support it. The video gaming industry is still expanding, and if they can integrate gambling, incentives, and gaming all in one, it will be a nice niche market that a lot of people can enjoy. Gambling is just an attachment or thing which you could really make used to with these events,same goes into sports as well as we know on which events could really be that profitable if it is really considered to be this way.Its been a while about free games or whatsoever in correlated to it but its true that hooking up players on adopting or recognizing would really be the toughest challenge of any games offered there. So i dont see for this one to be that something interesting. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Hydrogen on April 20, 2022, 10:04:57 PM Most esports broadcasts I've watched, were not the most watchable content. They don't deliver well on the spectator side of things.
I think they would do better upgrading broadcast and in game camera systems for current games. Or developing games designed to capture good content, play by play breakdown and highlight reel analysis that will appeal more to viewers. Focusing more on 1 vs 1 platforms. Or team platforms where all of the team members are in the camera frame at the same time. Could be good approaches to follow. With current multiplayer its too difficult and disjointed to follow what every team member is doing. The camera doesn't know which player perspective to follow as it doesn't know where the main action will be. Its difficult to follow everything that is happening in a perspective that makes sense and is watchable. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: sunsilk on April 20, 2022, 10:31:57 PM That's actually a good one.
It's really the virtual reality that we kids have been thinking about before. We can earn through playing and if they're able to incentivize that, I guess many gamers would come back to these games that have stopped playing now and went through the reality of finding jobs. This should be a heavily invested industry if that's the plan they've got and how would they earn from it. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: qwertyup23 on April 20, 2022, 11:35:21 PM With current multiplayer its too difficult and disjointed to follow what every team member is doing. The camera doesn't know which player perspective to follow as it doesn't know where the main action will be. Its difficult to follow everything that is happening in a perspective that makes sense and is watchable. This is one of the problems that some e-sports multiplayer/team games are struggling to offer- how to effectively broadcast and showcase each and every individual' skill. Given that the recent broadcast of players have been steadily improving over the past year, there is still this lacking element where everyone could be seen while effectively being not too overwhelming at the same time. This is one of those problems that are somehow difficult to address given the nature of multiplayer games. If the camera showcases multiple players at the same time, viewers might get confused on which panel/side to watch; on the other hand, not seeing every player's movements might be frustrating especially if you want to focus on a specific player. I guess in order to address this problem, viewers must have the option to freely choose on which player to watch their POV. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: goldkingcoiner on April 21, 2022, 12:48:21 AM We all understand the value of e-sports in today's era and it is indeed a great deal is a company is all set to develop more free e-sports games According to the reports Incentive Games have already signed up to do the following, they have already developed 21 e-sports games and of which 14 are totally free to play as well, therefore getting in cannot be more affordable. They would be focused on games such us : Quote The first game developed for Esports Technologies will centre around the Counter Strike: Global Offensive marketplace, with further plans to develop Dota 2, League of Legends and Valorant-inspired games Now e-sports technologies and incentive games have now entered a license agreement where they would be providing the users more free to play games using their algorithms based on free to play games in the casinos as well. This can be a game changer since most of the times in e-sports having to pay to wager and play can be a big deal for small players, this can not only help them secure a wide range of audience but it can also help change the whole e-sports gaming as a whole. Don't forget to check out the source : https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16044/incentive-games-signs-up-to-develop-free-to-play-games-for-esports-technologies (https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16044/incentive-games-signs-up-to-develop-free-to-play-games-for-esports-technologies) What do you think ? Are you going to play on these platforms? I do believe most of the users might already be using them and seeing this incentive get bigger would certainly bring joy with increasing the free game diversity on the sites. Hmm, well call me a Pessimistic Peter but I think that the main problem will be that this is going to be taken advantage with dirty marketing tactics intended to lure in more players or perhaps there will be some kind of shady "payout" system but only if you do certain tasks and or play certain non-free-to-play games. Because I don't really see an upside for free casino esports games without any kind of bonus for the users other than to play the game without entering some kind of risk. People who come to online gambling casinos sites usually want to risk something. So what kind of target audience can we get here? Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Wexnident on April 21, 2022, 01:27:37 AM I'm rather confused. Aren't most E-Sports titles free to play anyway? The only E-sport I'd consider not to be f2p would be MMO's since those are heavily reliant on the items/equipment you gain from progressing through the game. IF it's something like the game being an esports scene itself, e.g. players don't have to go anywhere or be part of an organization to take part, then it might be interesting to see, but the player base and latency connections might become an issue down in the long run. It's a nice idea but I don't think it'd be good in the long run, especially since it's competing with titles like CSGO and Dota 2 which are big wigs in the scene.
Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: ralle14 on April 21, 2022, 01:34:21 AM I prefer to wait and observe what games they'll be dishing out since not all e-sport games are successful from the start and I remember watching other games that are focused on building their own competitive scene but it didn't last too long since the game's popularity was declining. Free to play is the way to go as we've seen some games going from paid to free recently like PUBG and CSGO for example. I'm curious to see how far their platform will go since it's interesting to see another marketplace that will compete against Valve's Steam marketplace.
Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Peanutswar on April 21, 2022, 04:24:59 AM Recently e-sports is one of the most trends nowadays because they are now a lot of players actively streaming and making a group to create a yep in a particular game. Most of the games today are free to play because people want to play the game like it's their casual game to enjoy and get entertained. Recently one the top games such as the Dota2, CSGO and the PUBG they release for free and you can see this in Steam the most searched engine for games.
Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: uneng on April 21, 2022, 05:02:57 AM Quote The first game developed for Esports Technologies will centre around the Counter Strike: Global Offensive marketplace, with further plans to develop Dota 2, League of Legends and Valorant-inspired games Personally, I would like to see e-sports growing with RTS games, but I have no hopes regard that, because I know RTS genre isn't popular and there are no significant investment and development on this field. Anyway, if it happened for real, I would be glad to play those games. I follow some RTS games tournaments with cash prizes, but the number of views is too low as are the prizes. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: bittraffic on April 21, 2022, 05:28:09 AM Quote The first game developed for Esports Technologies will centre around the Counter Strike: Global Offensive marketplace, with further plans to develop Dota 2, League of Legends and Valorant-inspired games Personally, I would like to see e-sports growing with RTS games, but I have no hopes regard that, because I know RTS genre isn't popular and there are no significant investment and development on this field. Anyway, if it happened for real, I would be glad to play those games. I follow some RTS games tournaments with cash prizes, but the number of views is too low as are the prizes. Although CSGO is old, I'm certain to play it when there is incentive in doing so. Any one could make money can motivate someone. I would imagine easy access for someone and every kill will make you money will be a good concept, just imagine a lot of us in one map waiting for a shadow on our cross sight. Its exciting to see how much you'd win when you defuse a bomb or successfully bombed the area. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: strunberg on April 21, 2022, 05:59:21 AM Lots of gamers around the world would be happy to be incentivized for the hours they put in to the game. A lot of people are dreaming to get inside the world of esports like their idols, but in order to do this, lots of huge sacrifices should be made first before they can even enter this lucrative world. If someone can bring it closer to a lot of people, it will definitely be a hit and lots will support it. The video gaming industry is still expanding, and if they can integrate gambling, incentives, and gaming all in one, it will be a nice niche market that a lot of people can enjoy. market will massively growth if integration on gamblng , incentives and gaming applied , we have alternaive to earn money in this cyberspace. gaming industry growth massively in few years ago , and while gambling feature added in this part it would attract more user to play.maybe it will be best feature ever for gamers and gamblers.Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: davis196 on April 21, 2022, 06:01:12 AM I don't really think that e-sports games(like CS:GO) can be considered gambling games.
Games with paid in-game items aren't gambling,because the players don't play with the expectation of winning anything or making profits.They are buying expensive in-game items,in order to win the game and have some fun,not to make money.Perhaps such games will begin shifting to a more gambling oriented business model. Anyway,this is good news.More free-to-play game is good news for the average gamer,who is most likely a financially broke teenager,using his mom's credit card to buy in-game items on such games. ;D Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: uneng on April 21, 2022, 07:45:09 AM Quote The first game developed for Esports Technologies will centre around the Counter Strike: Global Offensive marketplace, with further plans to develop Dota 2, League of Legends and Valorant-inspired games Personally, I would like to see e-sports growing with RTS games, but I have no hopes regard that, because I know RTS genre isn't popular and there are no significant investment and development on this field. Anyway, if it happened for real, I would be glad to play those games. I follow some RTS games tournaments with cash prizes, but the number of views is too low as are the prizes. Although CSGO is old, I'm certain to play it when there is incentive in doing so. Any one could make money can motivate someone. I would imagine easy access for someone and every kill will make you money will be a good concept, just imagine a lot of us in one map waiting for a shadow on our cross sight. Its exciting to see how much you'd win when you defuse a bomb or successfully bombed the area. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: madnessteat on April 21, 2022, 10:09:39 AM Lots of gamers around the world would be happy to be incentivized for the hours they put in to the game. A lot of people are dreaming to get inside the world of esports like their idols, but in order to do this, lots of huge sacrifices should be made first before they can even enter this lucrative world. If someone can bring it closer to a lot of people, it will definitely be a hit and lots will support it. The video gaming industry is still expanding, and if they can integrate gambling, incentives, and gaming all in one, it will be a nice niche market that a lot of people can enjoy. In my opinion, the development of the game industry is just moving in this direction. Even if you place ads in games that are not too conspicuous and can vary depending on the location of the player, it would bring a huge profit for developers. I'm sure that with the right approach they can spend some of this money to attract players and then there will be a lot more people willing to play than at present. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: michellee on April 21, 2022, 12:30:56 PM I feel that the games industry is currently growing rapidly with new technologies being developed by many developers. And the developer itself is trying to provide a new experience for game lovers by issuing many updates to the game. Maybe the experience of playing CSGO, DOTA and other games will be different from before and it will make game lovers feel happy with the new developments from the developers. But if e-sports games were introduced using gambling, I think it could create new problems because many of the users are young people who are prone to addiction problems. So the developers or the people who play the game must understand the situation and try to provide understanding to people who have not been able to control themselves with addiction problems.
Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: dothebeats on April 21, 2022, 01:01:54 PM Lots of gamers around the world would be happy to be incentivized for the hours they put in to the game. A lot of people are dreaming to get inside the world of esports like their idols, but in order to do this, lots of huge sacrifices should be made first before they can even enter this lucrative world. If someone can bring it closer to a lot of people, it will definitely be a hit and lots will support it. The video gaming industry is still expanding, and if they can integrate gambling, incentives, and gaming all in one, it will be a nice niche market that a lot of people can enjoy. In my opinion, the development of the game industry is just moving in this direction. Even if you place ads in games that are not too conspicuous and can vary depending on the location of the player, it would bring a huge profit for developers. I'm sure that with the right approach they can spend some of this money to attract players and then there will be a lot more people willing to play than at present. I doubt gamers would like to have some ads on their games, especially if it's a competitive one. It will hinder their focus and even take them out of their momentum if ever an ad interrupts their play. I know this because I'm a gamer myself, and it's extremely annoying to see an ad on screen no matter how small or how subtle it may seem. Platforms that run these games can still profit from other things, though, not just from ads. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Mauser on April 21, 2022, 01:43:08 PM What do you think ? Are you going to play on these platforms? I do believe most of the users might already be using them and seeing this incentive get bigger would certainly bring joy with increasing the free game diversity on the sites. Both CSGO and Dota2 I know very well, in both games I probably have 1k hours each. Initially CSGO was not free to play, and even today if you want to play competitively you need to pay. This is mostly to make it more expensive for cheaters to have alt accounts. Personally I prefer free to play games because it let's you try out game for free and see if you like them. Not like the battlefield where you pay 60 USD just to find out the older ones are more fun to play. I also like the monetization of free to play games where they add different cosmetics. So if you reallg enjoy a game and play it more regularly, you can spend some money. And there is no pay to win approach. But free to play games also have some issues, they mix players who only play for fun with competitive players together, that can lead to a toxic environment. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: molsewid on April 21, 2022, 03:44:58 PM I doubt gamers would like to have some ads on their games, especially if it's a competitive one. It will hinder their focus and even take them out of their momentum if ever an ad interrupts their play. I know this because I'm a gamer myself, and it's extremely annoying to see an ad on screen no matter how small or how subtle it may seem. Platforms that run these games can still profit from other things, though, not just from ads. Of course who would love to be distracted by the ads while on a tight game? I mean like even if we watch reels and short videos in other social media platforms, even listening to a music we didn't want to encounter such advertisements in the start or in the middle of the video right so how much more while on game? As a gamer too this is extremely annoying and that should be noted by any e-sports sites if they wanted to attract more gamers. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Welsh on April 21, 2022, 03:47:47 PM Honestly, I think it's one of the reasons that the popular game Rocket League became free to play, since esports is a big thing for not only bringing in money from sponsorships for the teams participating, but it also brings eyes on the game for a lot longer than it would without esports.
The most popular games which happen to have a massive viewership via Esports is also the ones which are free to play. I don't think that's by accident. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Cling18 on April 21, 2022, 04:27:52 PM I doubt gamers would like to have some ads on their games, especially if it's a competitive one. It will hinder their focus and even take them out of their momentum if ever an ad interrupts their play. I know this because I'm a gamer myself, and it's extremely annoying to see an ad on screen no matter how small or how subtle it may seem. Platforms that run these games can still profit from other things, though, not just from ads. Of course who would love to be distracted by the ads while on a tight game? I mean like even if we watch reels and short videos in other social media platforms, even listening to a music we didn't want to encounter such advertisements in the start or in the middle of the video right so how much more while on game? As a gamer to this is extremely annoying and that should be noted by any e-sports sites if they wanted to attract more gamers. I don't think that's an effective idea because it could affect the whole gameplay negatively. The players would also have a hard time focusing on the game because of ads. It's something that a site should consider. So far, I haven't encountered sites that have ads during the game. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: dothebeats on April 21, 2022, 04:54:03 PM Honestly, I think it's one of the reasons that the popular game Rocket League became free to play, since esports is a big thing for not only bringing in money from sponsorships for the teams participating, but it also brings eyes on the game for a lot longer than it would without esports. The most popular games which happen to have a massive viewership via Esports is also the ones which are free to play. I don't think that's by accident. Yes, and the biggest tournaments on online games are held by free to play games (LoL, Dota 2, etc.). No such thing as barring other people from playing and enjoying the game just because they can't buy it. Also, the creators still benefit a lot from the in-game cosmetics purchased by people and that's how you create a market for your game. Paid games often have their tournaments too, but because not everyone can buy the game, not everyone can relate, hence the low viewership and low prize pool on said games. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Reid on April 21, 2022, 05:43:06 PM I'm rather confused. Aren't most E-Sports titles free to play anyway? Same. I thought DOTA is free and so is Counter Strike. I am confused too. Valorant is free as I checked their website. Why would they need to recreate if they could just enhance the quality of the game. I think it's the entry fees in tournaments that should be given out for free occasionally to invite more players that have no capitals or managers to support them. Who knows if there is a gifted player in the slums who cannot afford anything and just renting a computer to play the game in his free time will become the new star of E-sports. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: qwertyup23 on April 21, 2022, 05:51:31 PM Quote The first game developed for Esports Technologies will centre around the Counter Strike: Global Offensive marketplace, with further plans to develop Dota 2, League of Legends and Valorant-inspired games Personally, I would like to see e-sports growing with RTS games, but I have no hopes regard that, because I know RTS genre isn't popular and there are no significant investment and development on this field. Anyway, if it happened for real, I would be glad to play those games. I follow some RTS games tournaments with cash prizes, but the number of views is too low as are the prizes. Although CSGO is old, I'm certain to play it when there is incentive in doing so. Any one could make money can motivate someone. I would imagine easy access for someone and every kill will make you money will be a good concept, just imagine a lot of us in one map waiting for a shadow on our cross sight. Its exciting to see how much you'd win when you defuse a bomb or successfully bombed the area. Counter Strike is one of those games who withstood the test of time- from its very first version, to 1.6, to source, and to Global Offensive. It has numerous versions wherein lots of active players still play to this day. While there may be emerging FPS games which introduce unique and flavorful ideas, I still consider CSGO as the king of online FPS where gambling activities can be actively held. Though CSGO has been categorized as the biggest FPS game, there are however, lots of cheats which continues to damage its reputation on the field. With regard betting, there was an incident before where a player in India (Forsaken) cheated in an official tournament. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Coin_trader on April 21, 2022, 05:52:54 PM I'm rather confused. Aren't most E-Sports titles free to play anyway? Same. I thought DOTA is free and so is Counter Strike. I am confused too. Valorant is free as I checked their website. Why would they need to recreate if they could just enhance the quality of the game. I think it's the entry fees in tournaments that should be given out for free occasionally to invite more players that have no capitals or managers to support them. Who knows if there is a gifted player in the slums who cannot afford anything and just renting a computer to play the game in his free time will become the new star of E-sports. Yeah, Most of the E-sports games are free but you will need to purchase in-game items if you want to have a visual upgrades on your characters which is what makes this game expensive to play for some players that wants to buy items. There's also no entry fee on any tournament since it's sponsored. The Esports that being discussed base on the Article attached is the company called Esports Technology and not the general E-sports. They are planning to develop a free to play game that copy all the games mentioned since it's the most effective games to attract audience but this time for betting purposes. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: kaya11 on April 21, 2022, 07:09:34 PM I don't really think that e-sports games(like CS:GO) can be considered gambling games. Games with paid in-game items aren't gambling,because the players don't play with the expectation of winning anything or making profits.They are buying expensive in-game items,in order to win the game and have some fun,not to make money.Perhaps such games will begin shifting to a more gambling oriented business model. Anyway,this is good news.More free-to-play game is good news for the average gamer,who is most likely a financially broke teenager,using his mom's credit card to buy in-game items on such games. ;D If I am not mistaken, I once played an event in Dota 2 wherein you and your opponent's team would pick items in your inventory. It is a gamble already and it was exciting, whoever wins takes the items, and as far as I know those items way back are already unique in this moment and have some real money value in it. They have already done it so it is nothing new to old players. Aside from that, there are 3rd party sites that continued that on, wherein you can gamble your in game items, winners of a major league, or even in the TI. I am player of Dota 2 after all. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Fatunad on April 21, 2022, 08:50:47 PM I don't really think that e-sports games(like CS:GO) can be considered gambling games. Games with paid in-game items aren't gambling,because the players don't play with the expectation of winning anything or making profits.They are buying expensive in-game items,in order to win the game and have some fun,not to make money.Perhaps such games will begin shifting to a more gambling oriented business model. Anyway,this is good news.More free-to-play game is good news for the average gamer,who is most likely a financially broke teenager,using his mom's credit card to buy in-game items on such games. ;D If I am not mistaken, I once played an event in Dota 2 wherein you and your opponent's team would pick items in your inventory. It is a gamble already and it was exciting, whoever wins takes the items, and as far as I know those items way back are already unique in this moment and have some real money value in it. They have already done it so it is nothing new to old players. Aside from that, there are 3rd party sites that continued that on, wherein you can gamble your in game items, winners of a major league, or even in the TI. I am player of Dota 2 after all. you had staked on.Its been a while or already been here before this thing been talked or considered upon and now its good to see that there are e-sports based bookies which do really add up these games for us to bet on- not totally as a player but as a gambler. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Maus0728 on April 21, 2022, 10:36:43 PM Honestly, I think it's one of the reasons that the popular game Rocket League became free to play, since esports is a big thing for not only bringing in money from sponsorships for the teams participating, but it also brings eyes on the game for a lot longer than it would without esports. The most popular games which happen to have a massive viewership via Esports is also the ones which are free to play. I don't think that's by accident. This is what I also stand with the topic. I don't really know why people sees e-sports to be those that requires payment, as most major streamed games that had tons of sponsorships and tournaments with big prize pool are free to play. Isn't all the games popular today started to be free? All of the current mainstream games now only relies on the in-game market such as selling skins and etc -- still a free-to-play, just your choice if u want more elegance in your items throughout the game. Also, isn't sports in general are mostly either 1v1, 2v2, and so on? (basically multiplayer in a single match) Therefore esports composes of those games that have multiplayer in it. Are there any lists that you guys know which games are mainstream games that have tournaments and are not free?? Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Oceat on April 21, 2022, 11:29:33 PM I'm rather confused. Aren't most E-Sports titles free to play anyway? Same. I thought DOTA is free and so is Counter Strike. I am confused too. Valorant is free as I checked their website. Why would they need to recreate if they could just enhance the quality of the game. I think it's the entry fees in tournaments that should be given out for free occasionally to invite more players that have no capitals or managers to support them. Who knows if there is a gifted player in the slums who cannot afford anything and just renting a computer to play the game in his free time will become the new star of E-sports. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: South Park on April 22, 2022, 04:31:17 AM Honestly, I think it's one of the reasons that the popular game Rocket League became free to play, since esports is a big thing for not only bringing in money from sponsorships for the teams participating, but it also brings eyes on the game for a lot longer than it would without esports. The most popular games which happen to have a massive viewership via Esports is also the ones which are free to play. I don't think that's by accident. Yes, and the biggest tournaments on online games are held by free to play games (LoL, Dota 2, etc.). No such thing as barring other people from playing and enjoying the game just because they can't buy it. Also, the creators still benefit a lot from the in-game cosmetics purchased by people and that's how you create a market for your game. Paid games often have their tournaments too, but because not everyone can buy the game, not everyone can relate, hence the low viewership and low prize pool on said games. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: adzino on April 22, 2022, 04:44:25 AM Now e-sports technologies and incentive games have now entered a license agreement where they would be providing the users more free to play games using their algorithms based on free to play games in the casinos as well. This can be a game changer since most of the times in e-sports having to pay to wager and play can be a big deal for small players, this can not only help them secure a wide range of audience but it can also help change the whole e-sports gaming as a whole. This is a little confusing. What do you mean by "they have to pay to wager"? I haven't seen any such e-sports betting. I mean, they let you wager as long as you have funds to place bets. And what do you mean by free to play bets? Place bets without using any of your own funds? How is this going to work? -snip- I guess most of you haven't watched e-sports broadcasts. I have seen some and if you watch them in game, you do have the option to choose freely which ever player's point of view you want.I guess in order to address this problem, viewers must have the option to freely choose on which player to watch their POV. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Wexnident on April 22, 2022, 05:50:00 AM Same. I thought DOTA is free and so is Counter Strike. I am confused too. Valorant is free as I checked their website. Why would they need to recreate if they could just enhance the quality of the game. Well, they could show their skills by naturally climbing up the competitive ladders of each respective game (though I must admit, some games have really bad climbing logic such as Apex). Pretty sure there's been a few players out there who've been scouted, one well known of such is Topson from Dota2. I think it's the entry fees in tournaments that should be given out for free occasionally to invite more players that have no capitals or managers to support them. Who knows if there is a gifted player in the slums who cannot afford anything and just renting a computer to play the game in his free time will become the new star of E-sports. Yeah, Most of the E-sports games are free but you will need to purchase in-game items if you want to have a visual upgrades on your characters which is what makes this game expensive to play for some players that wants to buy items. There's also no entry fee on any tournament since it's sponsored. Pretty sure those visual upgrades as you said, are only visual. Cosmetics so to speak, and they aren't a requirement when you want to play or join a tournament.Games with paid in-game items aren't gambling,because the players don't play with the expectation of winning anything or making profits.They are buying expensive in-game items,in order to win the game and have some fun,not to make money.Perhaps such games will begin shifting to a more gambling oriented business model. Well putting out a gambling model for games that let players have incentives on whatever they'd gain based on gambling might put the balance or the economy (I'm assuming there'd be one) of the game. It's mostly why we don't (or rarely) see MMO's in the E-Sports sceneTitle: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Kasabus on April 22, 2022, 06:19:06 AM Lots of gamers around the world would be happy to be incentivized for the hours they put in to the game. A lot of people are dreaming to get inside the world of esports like their idols, but in order to do this, lots of huge sacrifices should be made first before they can even enter this lucrative world. If someone can bring it closer to a lot of people, it will definitely be a hit and lots will support it. The video gaming industry is still expanding, and if they can integrate gambling, incentives, and gaming all in one, it will be a nice niche market that a lot of people can enjoy. I guess having these incentives will bring more satisfaction to all esports players as they are putting most of their time for these video games. Esports like Counter strike and Dota 2 have attracted a lot of players and if they can integrate gambling in all these entertainment games, this will make the whole esports industry become more mainstream, and definitely gain more support and acceptance even in gambling industry.Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: sunsilk on April 22, 2022, 08:13:00 AM I'm rather confused. Aren't most E-Sports titles free to play anyway? Same. I thought DOTA is free and so is Counter Strike. I am confused too. Valorant is free as I checked their website. Why would they need to recreate if they could just enhance the quality of the game. I think it's the entry fees in tournaments that should be given out for free occasionally to invite more players that have no capitals or managers to support them. Who knows if there is a gifted player in the slums who cannot afford anything and just renting a computer to play the game in his free time will become the new star of E-sports. It was where most of the players spent their money as they play the game. The majority of the esports game is really for free. And if they're going to incentivize these games and make way for most players to earn from it, for sure their player count is going to skyrocket. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Reatim on April 22, 2022, 10:33:32 AM I doubt gamers would like to have some ads on their games, especially if it's a competitive one. It will hinder their focus and even take them out of their momentum if ever an ad interrupts their play. I know this because I'm a gamer myself, and it's extremely annoying to see an ad on screen no matter how small or how subtle it may seem. Platforms that run these games can still profit from other things, though, not just from ads. Of course who would love to be distracted by the ads while on a tight game? I mean like even if we watch reels and short videos in other social media platforms, even listening to a music we didn't want to encounter such advertisements in the start or in the middle of the video right so how much more while on game? As a gamer too this is extremely annoying and that should be noted by any e-sports sites if they wanted to attract more gamers. We love no interception , because our momentum and our strategy at some point losing , so this would be best to be addressed in all online gaming we are having lol. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: traderethereum on April 22, 2022, 12:35:40 PM Lots of gamers around the world would be happy to be incentivized for the hours they put in to the game. A lot of people are dreaming to get inside the world of esports like their idols, but in order to do this, lots of huge sacrifices should be made first before they can even enter this lucrative world. If someone can bring it closer to a lot of people, it will definitely be a hit and lots will support it. The video gaming industry is still expanding, and if they can integrate gambling, incentives, and gaming all in one, it will be a nice niche market that a lot of people can enjoy. I guess having these incentives will bring more satisfaction to all esports players as they are putting most of their time for these video games. Esports like Counter strike and Dota 2 have attracted a lot of players and if they can integrate gambling in all these entertainment games, this will make the whole esports industry become more mainstream, and definitely gain more support and acceptance even in gambling industry.And we already know that gamers can play longer than ordinary people. They will be competing to get more incentives and certainly, it will invite more people to try the game. I can't imagine that new technology, but it will be more interesting than before. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Ararbermas on April 22, 2022, 12:43:09 PM That would be a great news for everyone who loves playing such popular game like what you've mentioned above because now while playing they can earn at the same time as well. And yes i agreed that it's a totally a game changer for all gamers and surely there will be more upcoming e sports games in the near future after this because that's how the trend starts..
Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Maus0728 on April 22, 2022, 08:35:21 PM The majority of the esports game is really for free. And if they're going to incentivize these games and make way for most players to earn from it, for sure their player count is going to skyrocket. I don't think that the current mainstream games that have esports tournaments would step forward in having a feature where they incentivize their players. If this is somewhat "bet, play, win, and earn" scheme, they would need to register their game's feature to be licensed as it is considered to be an in-game betting. Regardless of being a free-to-play, I don't think it is necessary to add this feature as there are already betting platforms where you can still bet your in-game collection and items that connects to your account. The current gameplay is enough, integrating a gambling-like feature is I guess useless. Let the other gambling platforms do it for the games, and not the games adding a gambling on itself. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Kelvinid on April 22, 2022, 09:30:35 PM I'd expect a huge positive impact on the e-sport environment. Not really a game-changer but actually it gives some encouragement after hearing incentives that these players may get. I see this bright idea as a sort of market promotion that makes e-sport gambling will grow and make a huge benefit from this. As technologies keep growing and developing, many ideas comes out and it was glad to see e-sports grown so fast and been adopted by many gamblers/players.
Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: magneto on April 22, 2022, 09:43:45 PM I mean, it's already clear that more games are moving towards free to play or even play to earn.
Not sure outside of that how much more affordable things can be? I would suggest though that the main issue right now with the esports betting scene is how absurdly low some of the limits are on betting on these things. You can't be a whale and participate in these betting markets which is definitely a shame since there is a lot of capital ready to be unleashed imho. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Lanatsa on April 22, 2022, 09:52:22 PM The majority of the esports game is really for free. And if they're going to incentivize these games and make way for most players to earn from it, for sure their player count is going to skyrocket. I don't think that the current mainstream games that have esports tournaments would step forward in having a feature where they incentivize their players. If this is somewhat "bet, play, win, and earn" scheme, they would need to register their game's feature to be licensed as it is considered to be an in-game betting. Regardless of being a free-to-play, I don't think it is necessary to add this feature as there are already betting platforms where you can still bet your in-game collection and items that connects to your account. The current gameplay is enough, integrating a gambling-like feature is I guess useless. Let the other gambling platforms do it for the games, and not the games adding a gambling on itself. Speaking of gambling then it would really be on different industry and just like you said that it wont really be needed for them to add up something that isnt necessary.They had been offering it for a while. If you are into gambling then this isnt the right place but if you wanted to then you could still see some options. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: DoublerHunter on April 22, 2022, 10:01:07 PM That would be a great news for everyone who loves playing such popular game like what you've mentioned above because now while playing they can earn at the same time as well. And yes i agreed that it's a totally a game changer for all gamers and surely there will be more upcoming e sports games in the near future after this because that's how the trend starts.. ^For sure there is as you can see there is a lot of improvement in this kind of business industry, people now are usually on the internet and no doubt more games on the internet will probably come up or the most I am awaited is the virtual reality becomes a big industry in the gambling field. For now, we usually heard a play to earn games but I don't know if you will the games which is, to be honest, I don't like. How about DOTA 2 or like Valorant game would have a play to earn feature, I will surely play the game day by day, not like the game concept of axie infinity. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: TimeTeller on April 22, 2022, 10:43:52 PM That would be a great news for everyone who loves playing such popular game like what you've mentioned above because now while playing they can earn at the same time as well. And yes i agreed that it's a totally a game changer for all gamers and surely there will be more upcoming e sports games in the near future after this because that's how the trend starts.. ^For sure there is as you can see there is a lot of improvement in this kind of business industry, people now are usually on the internet and no doubt more games on the internet will probably come up or the most I am awaited is the virtual reality becomes a big industry in the gambling field. For now, we usually heard a play to earn games but I don't know if you will the games which is, to be honest, I don't like. How about DOTA 2 or like Valorant game would have a play to earn feature, I will surely play the game day by day, not like the game concept of axie infinity. This P2E gaming concept is really a revolution for me and gamers I believe are happy about this development in gaming. Because before, gamers are spending their money without getting any money in return, but just satisfaction with their games. Now, they have the chance to earn good money even if they spend hours and hours on the game. More on like, they can have additional source of income with their games now. Which I believe is very much appreciated by them. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: blockman on April 22, 2022, 11:05:03 PM Before it was just like P2P in game currency and items. There's a real economy to those games that has started with RPGs. Now, esports is a competitive scene and this is where many of us are enjoying it. Even if we're not good or pro players, we can enjoy it just like the old days.
I'd like to play and earn for free and if it's one of my favorite games, I'd also be forced to learn those games that I don't know if you can have fun and make money from it. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: TheGreatPython on April 23, 2022, 06:00:10 PM I'm rather confused. Aren't most E-Sports titles free to play anyway? The only E-sport I'd consider not to be f2p would be MMO's since those are heavily reliant on the items/equipment you gain from progressing through the game. IF it's something like the game being an esports scene itself, e.g. players don't have to go anywhere or be part of an organization to take part, then it might be interesting to see, but the player base and latency connections might become an issue down in the long run. It's a nice idea but I don't think it'd be good in the long run, especially since it's competing with titles like CSGO and Dota 2 which are big wigs in the scene. I think what they mean with free to play is you can download and play the game straight away without the need of purchasing it however some features won't be available like special skins, effects, heroes, etc unless you purchase them but purchasing them doesn't increase your winning rate not unlike to mmo/rpg games like you said that are item dependent and only those that can spend more in the game are the only ones that will become powerful.Many esports games now can be played at home especially now that there are pandemic but when it comes to tournament events, I think players or teams will need to travel and play on a specific place. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Hypnosis00 on April 23, 2022, 09:28:16 PM Before it was just like P2P in game currency and items. There's a real economy to those games that has started with RPGs. Now, esports is a competitive scene and this is where many of us are enjoying it. Even if we're not good or pro players, we can enjoy it just like the old days. I really see how the environment makes changes everything around. We are highly exposed to the internet this time which makes it useful to develop new gaming systems and has been adaptable to the people. In fact, even young minds, kids are even know how to play e-sports/games. Now, I can imagine how this influences the community and how it makes fun of the people. I'd like to play and earn for free and if it's one of my favorite games, I'd also be forced to learn those games that I don't know if you can have fun and make money from it. I have heard that some players had spent a lot of time from this playing and spent more money just to have better gaming features. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: sunsilk on April 23, 2022, 11:43:21 PM The majority of the esports game is really for free. And if they're going to incentivize these games and make way for most players to earn from it, for sure their player count is going to skyrocket. I don't think that the current mainstream games that have esports tournaments would step forward in having a feature where they incentivize their players. If this is somewhat "bet, play, win, and earn" scheme, they would need to register their game's feature to be licensed as it is considered to be an in-game betting. Regardless of being a free-to-play, I don't think it is necessary to add this feature as there are already betting platforms where you can still bet your in-game collection and items that connects to your account. The current gameplay is enough, integrating a gambling-like feature is I guess useless. Let the other gambling platforms do it for the games, and not the games adding a gambling on itself. There's no need to add the feature of betting but if that's part of the business model, they'll put it like a separate feature of that game kinda like a marketplace. Since the majority of the gamers that would come in are just for the game and as well as the mechanism to earn. There will be a huge percentage that many won't go and bet for it since it's not the main reason why they play. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: STT on April 24, 2022, 03:15:48 AM Im not sure I understand completely but if it involves the csgo economy then that is alot of value available to gamble. Valve isnt that keen to have people using csgo items so Im confused if they mean directly or not. CSGO already incorporates gambling if we are being realistic and some member countries of EU bans a section of CSGO and its marketplace for that reason. Like I say its not clear what they intend exactly, I bet on csgo esports games most days. Maybe they intend for players to bet their own games but that also has been done previous with mixed success. Article needs a screenshot for intended interface.
Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: sunsilk on April 24, 2022, 10:33:03 PM Im not sure I understand completely but if it involves the csgo economy then that is alot of value available to gamble. Valve isnt that keen to have people using csgo items so Im confused if they mean directly or not. CSGO already incorporates gambling if we are being realistic and some member countries of EU bans a section of CSGO and its marketplace for that reason. Like I say its not clear what they intend exactly, I bet on csgo esports games most days. Maybe they intend for players to bet their own games but that also has been done previous with mixed success. Article needs a screenshot for intended interface. Since it's not yet official and finished.Everything is possible but if it's going to be a bet for their own games, there's a need for integration with Valve on this one. But AFAIK, Valve is against on this. And that's why they have to make another platform, a third party, an outside feature platform that will allow the betting for normal players, not pro leagues and players to make it happen. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Viscore on April 25, 2022, 08:52:56 AM If the game were completely free and paid for the players, maybe it would interest the players who have played the game before. We know that CounterStrike, DOTA, and so on have a lot of players and if it could be integrated into something new, it would make e-sports even bigger. If most of the games are free to play, i think a lot of players will be waiting for the new released games soon. And this will eventually create a lot of audience as esports gaming has been very accessible even to kids nowadays because of its easy to play plus its exciting features. No wonder why esports has become the norm and that knowing they are free to play, that makes them more affordable and accessible to all.It is interesting because we might see a new e-sports game that we probably haven't seen before. So it's better if we wait for further news from the developer so we know what the game is like. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Kelvinid on April 26, 2022, 02:43:43 AM I'd expect a huge positive impact on the e-sport environment. Not really a game-changer but actually it gives some encouragement after hearing incentives that these players may get. I see this bright idea as a sort of market promotion that makes e-sport gambling will grow and make a huge benefit from this. As technologies keep growing and developing, many ideas comes out and it was glad to see e-sports grown so fast and been adopted by many gamblers/players. The accessibility and options now where to bet is much easier than before since we have now many options on where to bet. Since it esports and online gambling were getting more attention than before, we can see reviews as well feedback from players who played in it. The more the option now and the competition among platform makes it affordable, some even offers rewards when you bet.Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: batang_bitcoin on April 26, 2022, 03:28:33 AM I don’t really understand the article so enlighten me I view it wrong. AFAIK they are developing free to play game for more competitive e-sports that will be offered on sports book. They are developing games so that there will be additional games that can be bet in e-sports sportbook category. So who will facilitate the tournament and how can they guarantee the fairness of the game against match fixing. This is the common issue of e-sports nowadays since even Dota2 is experiencing this issue. They're developing a platform and not games. There are the games given already and I don't think there's a need for them to make another unpopular game. And that's why the market of wagering is already in that common and popular esports for which they'll ride the popularity of it and they can easily market it out. If your worry is about the selling out of games in tournaments, don't worry about it. The esports managements and community is very strict about it especially to the high tier tournaments but in the low tier tournaments, it's up to them.Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: madnessteat on April 26, 2022, 10:20:35 AM I don’t really understand the article so enlighten me I view it wrong. AFAIK they are developing free to play game for more competitive e-sports that will be offered on sports book. They are developing games so that there will be additional games that can be bet in e-sports sportbook category. So who will facilitate the tournament and how can they guarantee the fairness of the game against match fixing. This is the common issue of e-sports nowadays since even Dota2 is experiencing this issue. This common problem is solved at cybersport competitions, where participants are under constant surveillance by video cameras and a huge number of spectators. The player who uses cheats on his computer to beat his opponents is not a good player and is a cheater who in a fair game with a high degree of probability will be a loser. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: ipanks on April 26, 2022, 10:20:40 AM snip That's because of technological developments that allow offline games to develop into online games and have attracted the interest of adults and young children to play them. By using online games, they can play anywhere they like. As long as they are connected to the internet, everything can run smoothly. Yes, Covid-19 is helping e-sports or online games develop more rapidly because people stay at home and need the entertainment to relieve stress.Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Jackl87 on April 26, 2022, 10:43:54 AM We all understand the value of e-sports in today's era and it is indeed a great deal is a company is all set to develop more free e-sports games According to the reports Incentive Games have already signed up to do the following, they have already developed 21 e-sports games and of which 14 are totally free to play as well, therefore getting in cannot be more affordable. They would be focused on games such us : Quote The first game developed for Esports Technologies will centre around the Counter Strike: Global Offensive marketplace, with further plans to develop Dota 2, League of Legends and Valorant-inspired games What do you think ? Are you going to play on these platforms? I do believe most of the users might already be using them and seeing this incentive get bigger would certainly bring joy with increasing the free game diversity on the sites. I don't know if we really need another copy of Counter Strike or Dota 2. Recently i tuned into a Stream of Valorant because the viewer numbers for that game were so high because of a big tournament and this was the first time i watched valorant gameplay and i have to say i was really surprised and almost shocked how similar this game is to counter strike. I mean it is literally a copy of CSGO with some other elements that were "stolen" from Overwatch. It is surprising to me that this game is so popular and that so many people seem to be supporting such a blatant copy. So i really don't think we need another CSGO clone and Dota 2 is already completely free2play and has the biggest price money in the industry. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: jrrsparkles on April 26, 2022, 12:34:35 PM E-Sports is actually became a new career path for many youngsters and many got success as well but the gaming companies still targetting the PC games? I think its better to concentrate on the smartphone based games so they should atleast get 100 times more active players because now smartphone become a part of everyone so its in our hands all the time.
Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: ipanks on April 27, 2022, 12:03:39 PM E-Sports is actually became a new career path for many youngsters and many got success as well but the gaming companies still targetting the PC games? I think its better to concentrate on the smartphone based games so they should atleast get 100 times more active players because now smartphone become a part of everyone so its in our hands all the time. So we can see the possibility that young people will become addicted to playing E-sports and if it is combined with gambling, new problems will arise for them. Smartphone-based games have also developed well and it is evident that we have seen many games available to play. But not all games for smartphones offer different things because many of these games almost follow the previous games.Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: AicecreaME on April 27, 2022, 01:54:50 PM Lots of gamers around the world would be happy to be incentivized for the hours they put in to the game. A lot of people are dreaming to get inside the world of esports like their idols, but in order to do this, lots of huge sacrifices should be made first before they can even enter this lucrative world. If someone can bring it closer to a lot of people, it will definitely be a hit and lots will support it. The video gaming industry is still expanding, and if they can integrate gambling, incentives, and gaming all in one, it will be a nice niche market that a lot of people can enjoy. I agree. Those players that spend most of their time playing games would be delightful to at least have a decent incentive everytime they play the game. After all, they still put effort, time, and of course, resources such as data connection, devices, and electricity to be able to play. It's also very much known that the process of being a professional player takes a long journey and it's no joke to achieve such level. Having an incentive would be a great initiative to compensate the players for their hard work. Since most young people aspire to have this entertainment and hobby to be their source of income and career, it would be nice to make it affordable and offer some incentives to make them stay, play, and give opportunity to step up. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 27, 2022, 02:20:49 PM What do you think ? Are you going to play on these platforms? I do believe most of the users might already be using them and seeing this incentive get bigger would certainly bring joy with increasing the free game diversity on the sites. Both CSGO and Dota2 I know very well, in both games I probably have 1k hours each. Initially CSGO was not free to play, and even today if you want to play competitively you need to pay. This is mostly to make it more expensive for cheaters to have alt accounts. Personally I prefer free to play games because it let's you try out game for free and see if you like them. Not like the battlefield where you pay 60 USD just to find out the older ones are more fun to play. I also like the monetization of free to play games where they add different cosmetics. So if you reallg enjoy a game and play it more regularly, you can spend some money. And there is no pay to win approach. But free to play games also have some issues, they mix players who only play for fun with competitive players together, that can lead to a toxic environment. Lots of gamers around the world would be happy to be incentivized for the hours they put in to the game. A lot of people are dreaming to get inside the world of esports like their idols, but in order to do this, lots of huge sacrifices should be made first before they can even enter this lucrative world. If someone can bring it closer to a lot of people, it will definitely be a hit and lots will support it. The video gaming industry is still expanding, and if they can integrate gambling, incentives, and gaming all in one, it will be a nice niche market that a lot of people can enjoy. I agree. Those players that spend most of their time playing games would be delightful to at least have a decent incentive everytime they play the game. After all, they still put effort, time, and of course, resources such as data connection, devices, and electricity to be able to play. It's also very much known that the process of being a professional player takes a long journey and it's no joke to achieve such level. Having an incentive would be a great initiative to compensate the players for their hard work. Since most young people aspire to have this entertainment and hobby to be their source of income and career, it would be nice to make it affordable and offer some incentives to make them stay, play, and give opportunity to step up. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: molsewid on April 27, 2022, 03:12:36 PM So we can see the possibility that young people will become addicted to playing E-sports and if it is combined with gambling, new problems will arise for them. Smartphone-based games have also developed well and it is evident that we have seen many games available to play. But not all games for smartphones offer different things because many of these games almost follow the previous games. In my own opinion this kind of situation like E-sports combining with gambling has two faces, either an advantage or disadvantage and whether we like it or not there will be someone belong on either two side of the faces. We may think that this could bring another problem to the society that needs to be resolve but like what we have seen to other E-sports in smartphone right now some youth manage to earn a reasonable profit out from it, they've enjoyed themselves playing while earning. And at the end it boils down on how a certain people put a limitation on himself/herself. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Boristhecat on April 27, 2022, 05:23:20 PM E-Sports is actually became a new career path for many youngsters and many got success as well but the gaming companies still targetting the PC games? I think its better to concentrate on the smartphone based games so they should atleast get 100 times more active players because now smartphone become a part of everyone so its in our hands all the time. If we're talking specifically about sports, then PC users will always beat mobile users, simply because on a PC your control is much higher than when playing on a smartphone. If we are talking about making money, then companies, of course, climb into all niches, and if I remember correctly, casual games for smartphones that have nothing to do with sports bring much more profit than any eSports games. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Lanatsa on April 27, 2022, 10:58:59 PM E-Sports is actually became a new career path for many youngsters and many got success as well but the gaming companies still targetting the PC games? I think its better to concentrate on the smartphone based games so they should atleast get 100 times more active players because now smartphone become a part of everyone so its in our hands all the time. If we're talking specifically about sports, then PC users will always beat mobile users, simply because on a PC your control is much higher than when playing on a smartphone. If we are talking about making money, then companies, of course, climb into all niches, and if I remember correctly, casual games for smartphones that have nothing to do with sports bring much more profit than any eSports games. really able to compete out in terms of numbers. This had been a noticeable difference but its true that majority is on mobile now and speaking with gambling or betting sites then there are lots who had been offering esports bets and also there are sites which you could really make use of in game items to make out your bets. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: TheGreatPython on April 28, 2022, 05:18:03 AM Offline games and casinos are on their deterioration as an e-sport and online gambling has been available. As per to see that young adults are prepared to go online and stay at home as they can still do betting during their free time. And there is one thing that it helps this e-sports boom, it was because of the Covid-19 pandemic, everything has been online. It's sad but this is the truth. It's just online gambling and esports/online games are more enjoyable because you have the ability to play and interact live with other players locally or even around the globe however offline games and casinos are still useful just in case there is a problem with the internet or the electricity, we can use them as back up so that the fun doesn't stop.It's only kind crazy that people are thanking covid for the new things that it's happening now when covid supposed to be our enemy because it steal so many lives but I guess better if we forget that issue. Past is past. What important for us now is the current situation and the future. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: ipanks on April 28, 2022, 09:21:13 AM snip Yes, I have also seen some youths have managed to make a reasonable profit from it. But compared to the others, the number of youths who won would not be more than those who lost and they kept trying to play longer. But unfortunately, only a few youths managed to limit themselves in playing the game while others were still busy playing it.Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Maus0728 on April 28, 2022, 09:53:47 PM I agree. There's no need to add the feature of betting but if that's part of the business model, they'll put it like a separate feature of that game kinda like a marketplace. Since the majority of the gamers that would come in are just for the game and as well as the mechanism to earn. There will be a huge percentage that many won't go and bet for it since it's not the main reason why they play. Not only that they won't be trying it nor bet in the game itself, but also the fact that the game won't even be as recognized as the current game now has. There will be tons and tons of negative reviews once this would be implemented in a game as it will require players to be of legal age -- henceforth the game wouldn't be playable at all as most games nowadays are prone to under aged gamers AND would negatively impact the gaming community itself. Just the separation of the game from the betting would suffice. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: terrorJR on April 28, 2022, 10:04:56 PM E-Sports is actually became a new career path for many youngsters and many got success as well but the gaming companies still targetting the PC games? I think its better to concentrate on the smartphone based games so they should atleast get 100 times more active players because now smartphone become a part of everyone so its in our hands all the time. I don't think it's too much of a problem now, there are currently a lot of E-Sport games based on Smartphones and indeed Moba like this has also jumped quite a bit in recent years and even a lot of people have followed it and have even reached the world championship stage.Even for now in the asia Seagames event there is now E-Sport being competed and it's using a Smartphone Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Boristhecat on April 29, 2022, 03:13:24 PM If we're talking specifically about sports, then PC users will always beat mobile users, simply because on a PC your control is much higher than when playing on a smartphone. If we are talking about making money, then companies, of course, climb into all niches, and if I remember correctly, casual games for smartphones that have nothing to do with sports bring much more profit than any eSports games. Not wont really be that precise because if we do compare Mobile Legend type of esports compared to Dota 2 in pc then in just seeing in overall users and prize pools then mobile based type of games wont really able to compete out in terms of numbers. If you're talking about how quantity becomes quality and PC users play better than mobile users simply because there are more of them, then I don't agree. Firstly, this contradicts what was written above - the number of mobile device users is constantly growing (and there may already be more of them than PC users). Secondly, just for reasons of common sense, I cannot imagine how a player with a mouse and keyboard will be inferior in control to a player who plays using a touchscreen. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Finestream on April 29, 2022, 06:48:08 PM If the game were completely free and paid for the players, maybe it would interest the players who have played the game before. We know that CounterStrike, DOTA, and so on have a lot of players and if it could be integrated into something new, it would make e-sports even bigger. Good thing that e-sports were able to come up with free to play games as its not only attracting more users but it also help us realizing that there are still certain games that needs not to be expensive but, the high interest of users is still there. Hopefully, there will be more free to play games that will soon to come out as online gaming nowadays has become the norm, not only it becomes affordable, but it also helps users to develop performance skills and strategic thinking.It is interesting because we might see a new e-sports game that we probably haven't seen before. So it's better if we wait for further news from the developer so we know what the game is like. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 05, 2022, 10:00:16 AM snip Yes, I have also seen some youths have managed to make a reasonable profit from it. But compared to the others, the number of youths who won would not be more than those who lost and they kept trying to play longer. But unfortunately, only a few youths managed to limit themselves in playing the game while others were still busy playing it.Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Erumo on May 05, 2022, 01:00:45 PM To be able to make e-sports more affordable, it isnt necessary to make games free to play. Most of these games already are free to play. Gamers main expenses are hardware. Make GPU more available, that will be more than enough. Make gamers earn through gaming, instead of forcing them to stream for 8-10 a day with sponsors tshirt on, and there will be an e-sports athlete in every second house.
Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: ipanks on May 05, 2022, 02:11:55 PM snip If young people can control their emotions well, they will not get involved with addiction problems, lose emotional control, and not go into depression because of losing the game. But because young people have not been able to control their emotions, we see many of them getting addicted. They are often in a hurry to want to continue the game simply because they have already won one round and instead of taking a short break, they are eager to win the next round. But what happened was that they lost their money.Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: molsewid on May 05, 2022, 02:24:49 PM Although CSGO is old, I'm certain to play it when there is incentive in doing so. Any one could make money can motivate someone. I would imagine easy access for someone and every kill will make you money will be a good concept, just imagine a lot of us in one map waiting for a shadow on our cross sight. Its exciting to see how much you'd win when you defuse a bomb or successfully bombed the area. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Fatunad on May 05, 2022, 03:18:11 PM To be able to make e-sports more affordable, it isnt necessary to make games free to play. Most of these games already are free to play. Gamers main expenses are hardware. Make GPU more available, that will be more than enough. Make gamers earn through gaming, instead of forcing them to stream for 8-10 a day with sponsors tshirt on, and there will be an e-sports athlete in every second house. Playing online games doesnt automatically means that gamers are aiming for money but if they would really be having the chance then they would love to on engaging on such thing.They could make money through tournaments and sponsorships.In speaking with betting then gamblers are the ones who do really able to have chance on winning bets. Dont know about esports to be affordable on which same as you said that majority of them are long time free-to-play which means zero cost before you could really able to play. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Boristhecat on May 05, 2022, 05:30:07 PM To be able to make e-sports more affordable, it isnt necessary to make games free to play. Most of these games already are free to play. Gamers main expenses are hardware. Make GPU more available, that will be more than enough. Make gamers earn through gaming, instead of forcing them to stream for 8-10 a day with sponsors tshirt on, and there will be an e-sports athlete in every second house. I think that when we talk about professional sports (whether it's a regular sport or an esport), the most expensive thing is not equipment, but time. To put it bluntly, to be a successful athlete you have to train like Koreans 24/7, but it is unlikely that many people can afford such intense training given that they have many other tasks in life (even school / work takes up most of the day). Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: coolcoinz on May 05, 2022, 05:38:00 PM If they can make it safe from hackers, which always was the biggest hurdle in these types of games, they'll do fine. I'd play such game out of curiosity if I knew it has observers who watch for people cheating and everything is 100% fair. Many online games tried to make anti cheat systems and failed. Ultimately the best way to spot cheaters is to have judges present during matches and to allow players to analyze replays and see what places players were looking at, where they were aiming, if they were affected by the environment like smoke, flash, suppression, fog of war, and so on. Eventually all anti cheats can be defeated, you need another human to spot cheaters.
Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: livingfree on May 05, 2022, 08:13:30 PM To be able to make e-sports more affordable, it isnt necessary to make games free to play. Most of these games already are free to play. Gamers main expenses are hardware. Make GPU more available, that will be more than enough. Make gamers earn through gaming, instead of forcing them to stream for 8-10 a day with sponsors tshirt on, and there will be an e-sports athlete in every second house. They all do. As for the GPUs, they're becoming more affordable these days. I'm starting to see the drop on its prices but it's still not there when the price are normal, it's about to get there and just a few more adjustments from the supplier and retailers we'll see the price normal once again. Well, nothing wrong with stream, it's a personal choice of these streamers and that's part of how they're earning through the game. If you have the talent to stream, to play and interact with the audience at the same time. That's your talent and niche. Title: Re: Making e-sports more affordable Post by: Erumo on May 06, 2022, 07:25:51 AM To be able to make e-sports more affordable, it isnt necessary to make games free to play. Most of these games already are free to play. Gamers main expenses are hardware. Make GPU more available, that will be more than enough. Make gamers earn through gaming, instead of forcing them to stream for 8-10 a day with sponsors tshirt on, and there will be an e-sports athlete in every second house. They all do. As for the GPUs, they're becoming more affordable these days. I'm starting to see the drop on its prices but it's still not there when the price are normal, it's about to get there and just a few more adjustments from the supplier and retailers we'll see the price normal once again. Well, nothing wrong with stream, it's a personal choice of these streamers and that's part of how they're earning through the game. If you have the talent to stream, to play and interact with the audience at the same time. That's your talent and niche. 1. Most of e-sports games are free, e-sports athletes have bought them long time ago, they are not that expensive after all. See no reason to create more free to play games. 2. Indeed GPU prices have started to drop. But as an athlete, you need that PC hardware right now, at the exact very moment. While you wait for price drops, others train. 3. I know that professional e-sports (for example CS:GO) players get monthly salary, in addition to money from tournament. To receive this salary, they must train with their team, and do some streams later. Sometimes their time spend gaming (or I would say working) is more than 9 to 5 regular persons job. |