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If you're constantly up on the news, I'm sure you're aware of the scientists stage worldwide climate change protests.

Over 1,000 scientists from 25 countries took part in the Scientist Rebellion's demonstrations over a week ago.

How does this affect on the market? Or doesn't at all? On the prices of bitcoin?

Bitcoin does not react to any piece of news out there.

Bitcoin has been roped into the climate change topic, with discussions about how mining affets the environment, but this however does not mean any discussion on climate change would have an effect on the market price of Bitcoin.

Maybe if people started to feel the consequences, after they realize that the world we are living in is hurting and the effects would cost us our health. They say that it we cannot bring back the damage that will be inflicted on us. The effects are irreversible and we only can avoid it now if we take heed to this call. The limit is not decades anymore, they say it is less than 2 years, and that is way too close. I guess this geopolitics and other causes of global warming is the roots, with it's evil leaders. Not only the price of Bitcoin will go down but the whole crypto market will fall if things gets worst.

It's not bad if you can provide us with a link to that, and to clear your doubts about if the bitcoin activities contribute harm to the environment or not, we have different threads that have talked about it already and i think you should get more answers to that on:  A simple proposal for an environmental-friendly regulation for Bitcoin mining (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5395606.msg59937668#msg59937668) and also read on this:  Re: Debunking the "Bitcoin is an environmental disaster" argument. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5325350.0) these will gives more insight on the approach towards the environmental impact of bitcoin and there you will discover how bitcoin is solving part of the problems instead of constituting to it.


Environmental challenges does not have any impact of the bitcoin price since the mining of bitcoin in not stereotype to a particular or specific location, hash rate is distributed across the globe.

Bitcoin seems quite volatile for a few days. So I don't think it's because of environmental facts at all. Also, I am not expecting any effect on Bitcoin for scientists thought. We have been encountering few bad news about Bitcoin energy burn which is a threat to the environment according to haters. But it doesn't have much effect on Bitcoin. So the current news like the previous, has no effect on the Bitcoin prices as well.

Highly doubt if there is any correlation between the bitcoin prices and climate change out there. I mean poor bitcoin is really making its happy days on the blockchain and miners around the world making sure it runs smoothly. Though there are on going concerns about miners using overpower to mine and polluting the nature I believe it is just bluff and nothing much. That can't really change the prices of bitcoin.

I mean its not like that earth has not seen the worst ever, dinosaurs gone, apocalypse event came in, ice age came in but Mother Nature always takes over no matter what. Humans are disturbing it I agree, but I am sure with the current we have more than 1000+ years of green earth.

I don't expect that the protest on the environmental changes will affect the price of bitcoin. Bitcoin is moved by things that has to do with economy, finance, adoption and few more but not the environmental changes. While investing what is concern is the trend and the financial news on bitcoin or altcoins.

well, maybe we need to look at this from a longterm perspective. It does affect crypto as enviromental consequences of mining need to be adressed if crypto wants to take a step towards mass adoption. So while it might not affect the imidiate market, it's something that will have to be figured out. If not than I doubt mass adoption can be achived.

I've heard of this news but I don't think that there's ever a connection between bitcoin with this news. There's little to no impact at all with that news of the arrest of scientists.
It's related to the environment and I think that you're thinking about mining since it's the one that's related to the environment. But, the market itself is separated and there's really no impact that we have seen or maybe someone will see that the market has plummeted due to it.

In my own observation, Climate change will affect bitcoin trading and investment. If climate change affect the economy of a state, it will also affect the trading of bitcoin. Example. You want to trade or you trading and suddenly the weather became changed it atmosphere, that is no internet access at that time. What do you think in the market? Climate change affect human mind and activities. If your mind is not at peace you can trade or do anything both in bitcoin and others.

Arrest scientists in the world or over 25 Countries will affect Bitcoin as well. We are talking about technology and bitcoin uses technology to mine, and trade. So if those device that are use to mine and trade bitcoin are not available, it will affect bitcoin. The consequences of climate change will go around everywhere and it will affect everywhere.

Not every single piece of news is going to have an effect in this market, now while lately there has been a lot of mentions from people external to this market about the supposed danger to the environment that bitcoin represents, the majority of the people that actually know how bitcoin works and that are part of this market know they are lying about the energy consumption and the sources from which bitcoin miners make their equipment work, so it is natural such a news had no impact at all.

I personally care on my own little things, maybe if we really care about our environment it should start from ourselves.

I don't think this kind of news affects Bitcoin, the price are still the same despite of this issues this will only matter if that catastrophe started already but since people are still confident that we can still address this issues in time, they are still not on a panic state and the Bitcoin market remains stable.   

To be honest I actually didn't bother to look up for a news like this as I focus on other things but for seeing those scientist protesting about possible huge danger that may come if we keep ignoring the environment I do some little acts like now. And people should put more bigger weights about what they are fighting for right now because if people will keep ignoring on what they are fighting for for sure in future we will face the consequences on what we do and worse same like dinosaur human race will extinct to.

I haven't heard of it. But I don't think it will in any way affect the market. Quite frankly, a single institutional investor could shake the market more than a thousand scientists.

The concern about the environment is a broad topic of discussion. It doesn't specifically point at Bitcoin as the number one culprit of climate change. Anybody who points that blaming finger on Bitcoin is obviously a bitter critic who cannot be objective on the issue.

But I do not dismiss the urgent issue of climate change. It has to be addressed. Lifestyle should adjust. Solutions have to be institutionalized.

we are too naive to reject the use of fossil energy,,, because the process of transitioning from fossil energy to renewable energy cannot be instantaneous ... there are many considerations that must be considered ... instead of protesting the use of fossil energy, scientists should come up with a solution to convert carbon dioxide into oxygen more quickly

I noticed that lately in the past 3-4 years people are more aware of climate change. In many places due to climatic changes there have been very drastic weather. And it’s these events that lead people to finally take notice.

This is also why car companies are finally stopping the development of internal combustion engines. They still build them now but most are stopping new research for new engines in the next decade or so. Basically car companies and governments want to get rid of our reliance on gas and oil.

So several questions for you.

First are you aware of how much lying goes on in main stream media?  If you are then why do you believe them?  Did you know that co2 atmospheric content has been flat for over 10 years at least. While co2 output hasn't?

Did they provide a list or just "say" 1000000 bazillion people said such and such.

Are you Aware that co2 Isn't the primary greenhouse gas? Its Not Even Close to second place as a greenhouse gas.   Water vapor is primary is both Volume and Power taking 65-85% of all green house gasses combined.  Co2 is down in the .003%   No I am not kidding its so low as to be laughable. 

Even NASA admits to water vapor being primary https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/global-maps/MYDAL2_M_SKY_WV  And theres lots of crank sites which will tell you im right and just as many crank sites telling me I'm wrong.   The take away here is NASA Does say I'm right =>

Are you aware that co2 is Plant food?  Plants kinda need it and without plants and plankton we are fucked.  More co2 = More plants.(there is a upper limit here but we are nowhere near it)   This is already occurring in the Sahara as it has shrunk 14% in the last 25 years. 

Are you aware that we now use 1/3 the farming area we did 100 years ago and the yields are higher?

I SERIOUSLY encourage you to actually do some reading outside the everything is doomed websites and for the love of Gawd stop watching mainstream media its actively brain damaging. (research hypnosis styles)  The most common way is simply to repeat the same thing over and over.  Works for both lies and truth.  Mostly used for lies though. Truth tends not to need it being truth and all.

Start here https://www.humanprogress.org/

It won't affect the price of Bitcoin because their protest isn't against Bitcoin mining but more on the idea of ending the fossil fuel industry and changing to renewables.


Other malicious organizations are just twisting facts and pointing finger at Bitcoin mining as one of the major reasons of this global warming which we all know is a big bull****.

If the demonstration gets a response from the government to issue a new regulation, then I think it will have an impact on bitcoin, especially if it doesn't favor the development of bitcoin. but until now it seems that battery production will increase in order to develop electric cars that are more environmentally friendly, and that means reducing the dangers of pollution and so on. Of course, apart from the higher level of awareness, this is very prospective when viewed from a business perspective

In terms of what I'm seeing and what's happened, environmental issues don't have a big impact and serious effect. We all know the environment is becoming more and more polluted from water, air, and many other things around us, and my funny way of saying this is that even human consciousness is being polluted. Ways to restore habitats have also been recognized and implemented for a long time, but it seems that it is still not enough. Perhaps the natural problems of extreme climate change will affect us directly in the future. It is enough for people to think positively to protect the environment.

I heard on the news that a group of scientists who really cares about the environment started protesting about the current situation, days ago. But the point about it is there are not any special relations between the bitcoin and the environment, while during the last years and recently I see many people and articles targeting bitcoin energy consumption for the current situation of the economy, while I see no reactions of the market and bitcoin price about it.

   
Everyone's mouths are full of stories about environmental protection, but in practice very little seems to be done to protect and save what we have not yet destroyed. As much as we can point the finger at politicians and powerful corporations as the biggest culprits in the whole story, the greatest responsibility lies with ordinary people who have embraced a way of life that is more than evidently disastrous for our planet.

The average person drives a lot in a car running on fossil fuels, does not save electricity and drinking water, throws away very large amounts of healthy food and does not sort waste. Therefore, change must come from small people, who can try to choose people who think similarly in elections.

The key thing is to do it as soon as possible, because according to some scientists, we have already crossed a point of no return, or we are very close to it.

check my post from higher on the thread.   we are nowhere near any point of no return.  like all the FUD with bitcoin.  this is also applied to just about any other subject. 

Hi !
It's definitely a big deal concerned with Bitcoins and the environment perse. One have to understand the fact that, bitcoins is notorious for using high amount of electricity concerned with mining and there are very few miners who are using renewable sources of energy as well, which does mean that the green energy alternative for mining is very slow as well.
One have to understand that these things are extremely personal therefore one have to take their own steps to make sure they are helping the environment while keeping the community intact.
The government's ideas about bitcoins concern with the pollution is banning it directly but I do not think how this can be any more reasonable than switching to better sources, by implementing finer laws to make sure that it can be *improved*. But we will still wait for many years to come for such an opportunity but till then if you are a miner, you know what to do.

There is no point in waging war on links, or telling you that I have heard and seen such things in a documentary, there are always two sides trying to prove them right. In addition to all the information, I rely on my personal experience when it comes to climate and changes in nature. However you want to set the story, there is no doubt that it is the man who changes things around him, and it is also unquestionable that it works to the detriment of the planet.

If your air is clean, the water is healthy to drink and you have organically grown food, and you also live in an organized country, then you can be considered lucky.

Well I don't think Bitcoin mining has much effects on the climate compared to other source of hazard to the climate. The major cause of climate change is from industries and motor vehicles that produce daily effects against our climate. Bitcoin is exceptional here cause the effect is lesser than the one different house produces. Although their is need to reduce this effect on our climate.

These kind of fundamentals or news doesnt really majorly affect bitcoin market or overall crypto market thats why its not really something much needed for you to mind on about external events and things

because this would only boggle up your mind on what are the next step that you would really be doing on but somewhat if you do see that it is something significant then go ahead but basing up with

real experience then most of the time bitcoin doesnt really react with these kind of sentiments thats why i do mostly ignore it.

Its very frustrating to see the situation of our environment right now but as a normal we can’t do anything about it aside from doing our little contribution. Those scientist knows the reality and the government should listen to then, better to talk about this in the right forum. Bitcoin is not affected by this, though eventually people will panic if they see big changes on the environment, for now we can’t see the effect on this one in cryptomarket.

My opinion as a physicist:

Look, I understand when people say "I do not trust science". I realize that most people do not spend 10+ years studying some niche subject after leaving high school. To them I say please understand that you do not comprehend how big the problem actually is. And your opinion about a certain subject after a few hours of google searching is not worth 1/1 million'th of the opinion of someone who has made it his life's work to study that subject.

When a climate scientist talks, be quiet and we listen carefully. You know what climate crisis is? Its a fight for survival. A fight to keep the planet sustaining life a little longer.
Everything in this world, all of nature, is in a very delicate balance between life and death. Its a miracle that this planet can even sustain life.

Even the smallest change can end life on earth. For example, no ozone layer to shield from radiation? Without ozone sucking up the sun's more dangerous radiation, guess who gets to soak up all the radiation instead? YOU. A deadly sunburn. Nuclear apocalypse would have the same end result with the only difference being the source of deadly radiation. But we have finally gotten a grip on the ozone depletion problem before the problem became irreversable and now the Ozone Layer is healing. Great job, guys. Apocalypse averted.

But there are more problems and other dangers! But people are more concerned about short term quality of life for themselves. They don't care about prolonging life beyond their own.

As I understand it, if the destruction of the environment progresses to the tipping point (which is soon) then the damage will become permanent. The human race will be headed towards a certain dead end and our planet becomes lifeless like mars. I understand the very thought of the extinction apocalypse is so terrifying that people block out the bad thoughts and rather say "we still have x amount of years left to solve the problem." 

But we have come to the point where we do not have time left to make a choice. A choice between continued life or a dead planet. There is no Planet B. Earth is all we got.


We need to reverse the damage we have done to our planet and BOYCOTT BIG OIL AND INVEST IN GREEN TECH RIGHT NOW. Or the future is screwed. We all return to dust.

And who knows, green tech might make you a pretty profit.

Saving the environment is very important for the world. But this does not affect the price of bitcoin. But the mining process consumes a lot of energy. And this is where bitcoin and ecology can come into contact. I don't see any other dependency. The mining process produces a large amount of used equipment, carbon dioxide and toxic metals in the air.

It would help if people knew what things they might do to accomplish positive change in the world. Steps they can take to reduce reliance on russian gas and help to create a better and healthier planet.

7 billion people across the world is a considerable amount of man power. If we're to improve circumstances, it makes sense to target that majority demographic. Rather than exclusively relying upon less than 1% of the population that tends to be proactively support climate change goals.

There are stories about one african man who grew hundreds of acres of forest in africa to address climate change. And that was only 1 man. Imagine what could be achieved if all 7 billion people in the world contributed.

I'll try to do my part to reduce greenhouse emissions and plant trees to absorb carbon and hope everyone else can find it in themselves to do a little that helps make things better.

I have to correct you because you are short by just under 1 billion people, because according to data for April 2022, there are about 7.9 billion people in the world. That number will continue to increase, so there are some assumptions that around 2050 there will be about 10 billion people in the world.


I know this story, a man named Tony Rinaudo (https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/man-planted-240-million-trees/) has planted about 240 million trees in dozens of countries. Its activities in Nigeria have made it possible to produce food to feed as many as 2.5 million people more than was the case before. The problem is that forests around the world are being destroyed at the rate of 27 football stadiums every minute, which is an incredible 18.7 acres every year - and that's something that can't be fixed just like that.


As I have already written, every human being should contribute to how he or she treats nature, because a lot of the little things we all do together can make the world a better place.

I'm still surprised, that bitcoin is still associated with environmental damage lol...

the gas emissions released due to bitcoin mining do not have a big impact when compared to the emissions produced by factories and vehicles. FUD about bitcoin is one of the destroyers of the environment is spread by people who hate bitcoin, I will no longer believe environmental issues involving bitcoin will affect its price because bitcoin has not been proven to cause that.

I care about it a lot, so much so that I have been trying to get our apartment to agree to have solar panels at the roofs and at the top of the balconies as well. Do you know how tiny that would be compared to the energy that we are spending in the world every single day? It would not help one second of worlds energy, much lesser probably. However, each and every single second we could save, would mean the betterment of the world. And this is why I know enough that spending energy is not the problem, sure lesser would be better but the idea is to turn into renewable energy, not cutting energy usage.

I started to care upon seeing those scientist and read their statement about the environment pollution. I’m not aware of this that much and maybe the government should really have raise the concern about the environment and educate more people so by this, we can help even on a little way. Bitcoin doesn’t have any connection with this one, though mining are came from the energy consumption, i don’t think its enough reason to panic. I hope those scientist can help us save the planet, let’s all contribute and start caring for our mother nature.

I care about the global economy more than I do the environment, and so does India and China. Both are the top two polluters in the world with large populations that are still developing. Sacrificing economic growth for the negligible reduction in the total increase of global temperatures isn't a good trade considering global temperatures have fluctuated for thousands of years. If the proposition of having increased food prices and energy prices in order to save a few habitats or costal regions instead of adapting, as humans have always done throughout existence, sounds good to you, then I'd argue that you should at least provide demonstrable figures of the human effect on climate change.

I've yet to see anything conclusive, the projections keep changing to fuel the hysteria.

I have the perception the environment isn't a decisive factor for crypto market, because there is no valid correlation between crypto and environment. And if there was, it wouldn't influence anyway, since investors who really make the difference with their huge funds aren't worried about environmental issues, global warming theory, sustainable/autonomous way of life. As it is well known, there is a strong lobby from private sector who works in partnership with governments to make green technologies hard and expensive to be adopted by average citizens and that is why most of us don't have access to such products and services.

It would be great if I could have an electric car and my house fully working through solar system, but it just doesn't fit my budget. Then I conclude I shouldn't be concerned about it, because it's out of my control.

What happens is that by nature people are very reluctant to change and will only accept to do so under the most extreme circumstances, the current economic model is based on consumerism in which people buy something and then they get rid of it a few years down the line even if the product is still functional, in other cases the products are specifically built to not last so you have to replace them over and over again, with both options producing additional waste, if things were made to last then the resources we use will go down, but such a change will never be accepted until we had no other choice.

what we can do is contribute on our own little ways because if we can't influence other people, i guess, doing your job as a human on this earth would be more than enough. we can't expect others to take care of their environment but you yourself can do the job. who knows, if somebody is seeing you what you are doing, they will get inspiration from you - whether it is just planting in your garden, recycling or throwing the trash properly.

Of course, I care about the environment, I like to plant trees because by planting a lot of trees, the world becomes cool and many animals can live in the trees such as birds, bats and so on, if our environment is damaged then we will be affected, and the most thing It's easy for us to get floods and hot air.

The "good" thing is that the number can't keep going up forever, which means that eventually the number will have to drop. Because, we are using all the resources we possibly can to a level where are barely alive and all, which means that if we are going to maximize the human/resources ratio, we will eventually peak at a level where we all barely survive and not even "live", just be alive. At that point the population will start to drop, and that will end up with getting better for sure.

I personally believe that the world will go back to 5 billion people in 100 years, it is not going to be easy, but we will reach there, and the USA could be the biggest population by that time because they have the most to lose.

I agree that people are overreacting on the energy situation, it is not something that we should care about anymore thanks to this Russia-Ukraine war. Everyone forgets that even though oil has been a thing that destroyed the world so far, it is getting lesser and lesser important with the renewable energy world getting much bigger attention these days.

Maybe Europe can't just dig out their own oil from the ground, but they can certainly go with the wind turbines and solar panels which would help it a lot, and since they do not want to deal with Russia anymore, I am sure they will get it quicker compared to what would have been before the war.

We have to thank the scientist for raising the alarm. But I think if we can go back like 20-30 years ago, this has been a topic already and it seems no one is bothered. And now we are suffering the consequences and i think it could be late though. So everyone should be wary on the effects of the climate change.

But as far as the effect on bitcoin, I don't see any. Maybe those anti-bitcoin though will take advantage of bitcoin mining as one of source of massive energy consumption argument.

Can we become sustainable electricity producer only with renewable energy like wind, solar even hydro power plants? Atleast in the next 10 to 15 years which is not possible in my opinion.

Russia is still selling their gas to those countries and even after lot of restrictions from Putin so called unfriendly countries.

A small protest like that does not make any waves... but a large protest will spark a new environmental awakening and people will once again throw stones at Bitcoin for using so much energy. They will care less that a lot of mining are done with "Clean" energy like Hydro power and Thermal energy, because the agenda will ignore all of that.   ::)

How will this influence Bitcoin...? I will say it will not make a dent in the Bitcoin price.. because people are only worried about profit and not what the environmental impact will be.  :P

In the end it all goes back to the old debate that Bitcoin is not environmentally friendly :D
there is no significant movement about bitcoin at this time because if you look at scientists demonstrating this is not just bitcoin even if it is a matter of a hot climate actually a lot of greenhouse effect projects that are more damaging than bitcoin.
It all comes back to this rumor and bitcoin is destroying the environment is something that is debated over and over again with no clear result :D

Everything will influence the price of the bitcoin and market.For the understanding,the war between the Russia and Ukraine affected the price of bitcoin or not.People think,the war between two countries will affected their economy and why the price of the bitcoin.But the real thing happened is,the economy of two countries had influenced the world economy.Because Russia had huge influence on world economy by their Gas supply.

environment and bitcoin ????
why is it always linked? , ( my opinion )
in my thinking and my vision bitcoin mining is not as bad as in destroying the environment only electricity is used without damaging the surrounding ecosystem. so I don't think bitcoin has anything to do with climate change
and also I think climate change also has nothing to do with the price of bitcoin because as we know the price of bitcoin is always changing, it's not that we can't determine it in a fixed amount

That small protest goes viral, and many people now are already aware about the current situation and most probably this is a wake up call, so I think it can make waves but still its better to have a more crowd to wake up the government as well and do their action as early as possible, this should be addressed the right way.

Bitcoin investors are indeed into the profit only, they didn’t even care about the cost of the mining especially on the electricity simply because that’s a miner concerns and they are just buying and selling, that doesn’t effect the price of Bitcoin after all, at least not yet.

Bitcoin has been labelled one of the most fossil fuel energy consuming sector in the world and as such, a hated or unpatronised sector by truly environmentalists. Apparently, these guys trade cryotos too and you could say, most of the effect that could arise as to this played out when Elon Musk Tesla placed a hold on the acceptance of bitcoin for buying a Tesla sometime last year. The market went bearish almost immediately because, not just the fans of Elon was at play as at the time but, the true environmentalists too.

One thing we ought to understand is, a sudden shift in a system is not always the best and changes comes to be gradually. In anticipation for the minig field of cryptos to utilise only sustainable and economic friendly energy sources in its activities, its only nice that these changes comes gradually and it would come to stand.

I do care about the environment but what does it have to do with BTC? There are people who want the world to think that bitcoin is somehow drawing too much power, or that miners produce greenhouse gasses. We should be smarter than that and ignore the anti bitcoin narrative, that's all I have to say about that. Want to protect the environment? Why don't you protest against airliners and yachts of billionaires. Yachts are often powered by dual 12 cylinder diesel engines so a rich guy who sails around for fun produces more fumes and impacts the environment more than 6 people driving in their cars around town. What about private jets? Is Bitcoin really the culprit here?

Bitcoin has been associated with the environment for a long time, it started because mining Bitcoin requires a large consumption of electricity.
Therefore for Bitcoin haters always looking for bad things about Bitcoin, no wonder it uses environmental reasons to bring Bitcoin down. But most
people now can access any information easily, because internet access is already everywhere. So people understand that Bitcoin does not damage
the environment, even fiat is more damaging to the environment when compared to Bitcoin. Moreover, climate change that occurs does not affect
the price of Bitcoin at all, because the price of Bitcoin moves based on supply and demand. So I don't agree that climate change will have an effect
on the price of Bitcoin, so we have to study the crypto world properly. In order not to get misleading information and ultimately will make us wrong
in making decisions.

Sometimes people are not looking at the big picture. I agree with you here. These activists, are they protesting about these rich people regarding their yachts and other high carbon footprint activities? I don't think so. They are just highlighting the use of energy of bitcoin mining but they forgot to look at other big industries that are consuming too much energy and at the same time wasting a lot. I do care our environment in my own little ways, like throwing trash in proper places, and planting in my little garden. I am not active with other activities but I can say, as much as possible, I lessen my carbon print by my daily activities.

Bitcoin miners may have an effect to the environment that adding the cause of global warming but if we compare it to the other bigger industrial factory company it's just a bits I think although when Bitcoin required a lot of energy aka electricity that's the time the coal and fossil fuels affect the entire environment.

This is the reason why Elon Musk left Bitcoin but if the government allowed people to use solar energy without a problem maybe this will fix almost everything. Although, some of them can't be helped or stopped from using fuel but at least stop those companies whose for years been damaging the environment.

If our environment is clean and healthy then we must care about the environment, the easiest thing we can do right now is to reduce the use of plastic, as we know that plastic takes a very long time to break down so by reducing plastic the environment will be better, and if we find plastic then the best thing is we burn it.

Currently, there are many campaigns to reduce the use of plastic, although not all of them are implemented and there are still many who use them.
It's not an easy thing to be free from plastic and I hope everyone is aware of the importance of protecting the environment

And so what?All BTC miners should stop mining to save the earth from global warming,just because a bunch of scientists are protesting?This is ridiculous.
A bunch of scientists protesting cannot affect the Bitcoin price.Nobody cares about this right now.
The inflation is rising(it might turn into stagflation,which is bad),there's a war going in Ukraine,the pandemic still doesn't come to an end.There might be global hunger next year.Do you really think that global warming is the main problem of the human civilization right now?

It’s not going to be an easy thing to pull off, but we will surely get it done. A reason why this is going to be quite difficult is for the fact that there will be industries who wouldn’t be in support just for the fact that it wouldn’t be favorable to them, so they will be kicking against. And another thing is what you pointed out that people are not bothered about this at all; they are not taking this serious. The problem with people is that they don’t care until they start to feel the effect. But I believe with time this is going to work.

If you ask people whether they care about the environment, many will answer that they care, but do they really care about the environment? surely only a few care about the environment, many people cut down trees, throw garbage in rivers or the sea so that it destroys the environment.

Many things we can do to make the environment better, and the easiest thing is not to use electricity or excessive motorbikes, vehicle smoke that is pollution damages the environment and the ozone layer so as to make the atmosphere damaged, this is what the world must pay attention to so as not to Global warming occurs.

news such as climate and environment will not have much effect on bitcoin. except about news about an invasion or about an economic boycott of a country. then maybe it will have an effect. because of course the market will have an effect too.

It could have no effect or it could actually have.
Let's say when there is a large protest against the things that have a great threat to our environment and some one who is influential enough will have to decline the acceptance of Bitcoin because of the Bitcoin mining power that excessively consumes every year? Just like what Elon and Tesla did when they refuse to accept Bitcoin  as a form of awareness for everyone on the effect of Bitcoin mining in our environment.

I don't think that there are even with this to affect Bitcoin or even care about cryptocurrency so Maybe this is not the right manner to ask this here.
and besides what are your concern to ask this mate?
Exactly , but lets give the credit to the OP maybe he has other different things to expect in this matter.

The environmental impact of PoW as a process, particularly with bitcoin, will certainly impact the mainstream adoption of crypto... we need look no further than Tesla suspending bitcoin as a purchase method due to the energy expenditure of PoW. Even if energy for bitcoin mining was 100% renewable, companies and governments will still be concerned about its perceived association with climate change. PoS coins (soon to include ETH) should benefit, but whether this positive will overcome the negative for the industry as a whole is perhaps less certain.

No one would care about environment, until it will be impossible to walk without gas masks. Even then, people would be lazy do care, as it will be easier to change filter or air balloon.

Impossible to make world clean, as dirt, production, factories and etc are more profitable than cleanliness. Or I can rephrase it as "cleanliness is expensive".
   

I do believe that climate change is one of the biggest global issues, and also one that is not being taken seriously enough. So pushing for eco-friendly sources of energy, motivating people to use public transportation instead of buying cars, and not buy huge houses for a couple of people, as well as motivating them to eat more plant-based food even if they're meat eaters are all relevant things. But it's all not that simple, when it comes to practice. For example, in my country there's a very nice law for green energy that obliges the country to ensure that all of it is bought, even though the price is much higher than for not so green energy. But the biggest provider of the green energy is also the biggest owner of the most polluting plants in my country. I'm sure there are other weird things like that in other countries as well, that show the complexities of tackling the climate change. As for Bitcoin, I think it miners should not be blamed more than any other high consumers of energy, and the legislation should treat them equally, pushing for green energy instead of banning activities that require big amounts of energy.

It can easily go viral because of the technology that we have now. I think this is also the reason why some parts of the US are said to undergo a btc mining ban. Why do you want more crowd and why do you want the government to make an action? Do you really want the ban to happen? You're supposed to support btc and not support the ban because you are here and you are taking the benefits of using a bitcoin. If that happens that btc mining is banned, it will affect btc.

I think it can make the network weaker and the news itself will cause for someone to worried which can lead them to sell their precious btc's.

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No, not all the people care because if they do then they shouldn't do things that damages the environment.

This will still have little effect because indeed when we see some people who are skeptical of bitcoin they always make excuses like this to say that bitcoin is not friendly to the environment and news like that has been done a lot to weaken the price of bitcoin, especially when fud appears.
although it's not too big because things like this have become something that is easily broken in an argument.

Of course I agree to make a rebuttal to those who are skeptical about bitcoin. Compared to bitcoin, I agree more that mining gold and other natural minerals has seriously damaged the environment that when the perception of the environmental damage caused by bitcoin is expressed, they forget about other big things.

Renewable energy has been discussed quite often, so I think it suffices to say that bitcoin is an eco-friendly asset.

when the initial FUD about bitcoin became one of the reasons for the damaged environment to appear, the price of bitcoin automatically crashes, this shows that the FUD about the environment has an influence on bitcoin.  but for now its influence is very minimal because Bitcoin is not proven to be the biggest cause of environmental and climate damage.  environmentalists are wrong if they say bitcoin is a serious environmental destroyer.

I don't think that nature or the environment is on anybodys mind in the government right now. The top politicians in most countries have a lot more pressing issues they try and focus on. The times where climate change and global warming was on the front page of newspapers is over. For the past two years the world only focuses on covid, now they focus on Russia-Ukraine war and the ecomic aftermath. Topics like national security and rising inflation are much more important for the reelection campaigns that saving the environment. It feels like that politicians still still don't take the topic serious, even if we can already notice the negative effects all around the world. In my opinion we should give more power to the scientist to save the environment, we can't keep living like this.

Most people in government only think about the chairs they sit in, and how to stay in those chairs for as long as possible! Most governments think of climate change and ecology only on paper and while collecting votes, and in fact, nothing or very little is being done about it!
But they are not the only ones to blame, it could be said that by our "inaction" we are helping to keep the situation the same! Big changes are needed, but it seems that there is no readiness to start with big changes! In addition to readiness, we probably lack awareness! Worst of all is that the problem is growing from year to year, this is what we leave to future generations!

Climate change does not have anything to do with bitcoin volatility,  climate change can happen to be natural and sometimes it is caused by the activities of individuals by burning of natural resources which can cause pollutant to the environment that can affect human being. It  can be a problem to business people health  in the environment , so I think bad climate change can affect economy of a business somehow,  but can't affect bitcoin.

But the skeptics still use this excuse to attack but I don't really have a problem with it because indeed as you said there is a lot of mining that is more destructive than bitcoin and indeed a lot of the greenhouse effect is making this hotter.

Regardless of what bitcoin is, environmental damage is an old issue that is now not good enough to continue to be discussed because it will only convey that they don't like bitcoin ;D

 mining Bitcoin can also cause climate change if they are not using renewable energy or the devices used for it. Because there is only a limited span of time for it, you'll need to change it. But most of the mining now is really into renewable energy to save some money to mine bitcoin. I think all of the things can cause climate change because this needs to be done by, like in trading Bitcoin, the servers of the platform also contribute to climate change.
 

This is true! Many politicians only think about their purse. What problems will concern these people? They have only one problem - how to sit for a long time at their workplace. And all the political problems they care about only because their personal money can suffer. I do not believe that political parties are worried about the problems of peace and ecology. These problems can be solved quickly, but this has not been done so far and there's always a reason for it.

The environment is something that determines health and even life, currently there is too much pollution and waste that can threaten our lives in the future, and it is time for us to switch to environmentally friendly energy such as replacing oil with electric vehicles.

the current problem, bitcoin mining requires a large amount of electrical energy, while the electrical energy currently uses non-renewable materials, so that it will gradually destroy nature, due to continuous mining of natural resources. Therefore, if alternative energy is not found immediately, it is feared that climate change will occur, which will have a negative impact on survival in Earth, Therefore, currently there are many references to finding environmentally friendly energy sources, so that later they can be used and are friendly to the environment

I remember there was a previous post linking climate change to the effects of BTC mining due to the immense energy that it costs. But this was quickly resolved and addressed that such does not entirely affect the climate. While heat was produced by tons of mining rigs, these are all strategically and geographically placed into locations where the heat would be offset by the natural climate of the location (e.g. before in Russia, miners would place their mining rigs in mountains, etc.).

I also doubt that the climate would necessarily effect the prices of BTC in the market. To be honest, this is the last thing that I would think of in the event of climate change as I would prioritize my safety first.

What's the relationship between the climate change and Bitcoin?. None right?. Unless if those scientist accept Bitcoin for a purpose they wanted to do like a movement for example which they need money from people who will donate for the sake of their rally or their project to save the planet earth. If those scientist accept Bitcoin then it may bring good impact but if they are only rebelling then the news won't affect Bitcoin at all.

yeah like that. even if there is an impact, it should not be too felt but when there is a disaster in a country that cuts off the internet or electricity network in a country. then it will only affect bitcoin.

but maybe this is a matter of bitcoin mining which requires a lot of electrical energy.

People in general do not understand the risks and consequences that take a lot of time to materialize, lets take smoking as an example, unless someone has been living under a rock they know that smoking is bad for your health, but since the effects can take decades to materialize people keep smoking thinking that nothing bad will happen to them until it does, environmental issues are the same, since it is difficult to see the consequences in their everyday lives then people simply do not think too much about it and they worry more about stuff it may have more immediate consequences on their lives.

Things of environment doesn't form major discuss with the people in government, they don't give attention to it they only to be ready to take away collective money and convert as there own but leave out the environment and how it impacts negatively to the economy. It is a good initiative if the scientist are taking the challenge of putting thing right, it is good that they carry out the research.

Real climate change is a decade to decade time frame in macro economics.   It does have an effect but you cant really speculate on the price for its change.    Technology is more of a feature, the rise of solar panel power allows BTC to be generated in the most remote areas.   Nobody gets how ironic BTC is because its power usage has some encouragement for distant but green power creation, its been argued but not accepted by most.

Currently the weather in my place is very hot, I still remember when 20 years ago I used to play in the field or outside the house from morning to evening and it was not hot, this is because more and more factories and vehicles emit pollution so that the air layer is damaged and occurs temperature increase.

I'm not saying it's going to have a big impact on the market. But the question remains if they mention the issue of mining. I think mining will have some adverse effects on the environment. So if scientists talk about this, the market may be a little shaky, but Bitcoin won't have much of an impact. Because whatever you say, the future is the cryptocurrency era.

If you following the environment research, You already know how much work they are putting all around the glob to not only create solution for different environment problems but also publishing there work constantly to aware the whole world too.
Well now if we discuss this matter in term of crypto industry weather care about environment problem or not, Then I can say that yes there are so much work is done by community to control anything witch is causing environmental problem related to crypto.
As we all know how much energy mining cost huge fuel consumption and creating a massive heat wave across all the world, now many miners are working for creating green energy project to control this problem.

Yes, these things are very similar. It is very difficult to assess the damage done to your body in case it is not visible right now. The same goes for environmental protection. The result of the money invested in environmental protection may not be immediately noticeable. And then a person can say - Oh! I don't feel the need to spend money on this! No result! In fact, the result will be visible very soon, but we do not want to wait...

I don’t think that whatever protest they have about the climate change would have any effect on cryptocurrency, although there have been talks that Bitcoin mining do have an effect on the climate change.

But, we all know that the effect that cryptocurrency mining can have on our environment isn’t as much when compared to other industries. Check out other industries such as building, and transportation, they have a high level of energy consumption compared to Bitcoin. Maybe it is time they talk more about these other industries than aiming their shots at bitcoin.

There are news/reactions that do not affect bitcoin at a given moment, it is in a certain way sometimes imperceptible but the sum of ideas of this type associated with bitcoin harm the image of bitcoin (not really but they make it look that way), but this does not it has to be reflected in terms of the market or price.

I do not think that it is politicians that fill their pockets that get the power, I think people get power by filling their pockets. So, you can't become a politician unless you decide to be a shady person willing to get rich. Other politicians who see you not taking any bribery or not working with them on shady deals etc etc will oust you and eventually even on the smallest of the issues you will be gone.

Look at the USA for example, Bernie Sanders is famously a person who can't be bought and he is always and will always stay to be the cleanest politician they have there, but Americans do not vote for him because everyone on media and all politicians hate him because he is not like them. You HAVE TO take money and be shady in order to be accepted among them.

Countries have got their own policies on electricity usage. Each and every one have responsibility to preserve the environment. Some people make money out of the environment, but will they do anything good out of the collected campaign money. It is a big no, and they used to submit perfect account to the government claiming that they've done big things. Right now whenever there is some discussion about bitcoin mining, someone will suddenly say it isn't environment friendly and now things are slowly getting transition.

A clean and healthy environment is the key to a better life, most people today do not care about the environment, they throw plastic waste and home poison to the river so that now we find it difficult to see fish that can live in the river, and a lot of news that many Sea animals like a died whale then when dissected, there is a pile of plastic in the whale's body.

I have heard about this and read several articles regarding this matter and I can say that if the scientists are the ones protesting now, it just means it's really bad. To the point that these scientists who spend most of their time researching and inside the laboratory, are going out and making a stance.

It's not really a secret that we are already experiencing climate change and global warming is becoming worse each year. Which is why nowadays, the storms and hurricanes strength are even greater compared to before. In addition, the glaciers are quickly melting which isn't normal, resulting to faster rise of sea level each year in most of the parts of the world. In fact, some areas are even predicted to sink in certain years if this will continue.

Regarding your question, this news isn't really directly connected with bitcoin's price. Although it could be related in a way that bitcoin is consuming a lot of electricity which is non-renewable, hence, has an impact to the environment as well. But as far as I know and based on the threads I read here in the forum, many mining sites and countries are now transitioning into eco-friendly ways to generate power to sustain the needed electricity for mining. And this is a good initiative to protect the environment.

A healthy environment and planet is essential in order for us to continue doing our usual routines and to keep up our lifestyle in everyday. If things won't change, we will suffer the irreversible effects of climate change that certainly will impact everything in the future, including monetary systems, rates of goods and services, and many more. So, do yourself, the future generations, and the planet a favor and take part making small steps even if it's not entirely related with bitcoin.

It's a shame to see the environment around us being dirty and unkempt,
after all protecting the environment is our shared responsibility and hopefully everyone is aware of this,
we can do it from small things like throwing garbage in its place because some people still litter and of course it will have an impact on the environment

Environmental concern is very important to make us survive and avoid natural disasters, and we must be aware that most of the disasters that occur due to damage to nature, such as floods, tsunamis, landslides and so on because humans damaged nature by cutting down trees.

global warming is what causes it, in almost all countries this has been in the spotlight but the government can't do anything because without factories operating and also moving vehicles it is impossible to stop global warming. if people say air pollution is causing environmental damage then i totally agree but if bitcoin mining is what they say is causing it then i think they are crazy.

I agree that global warming is to blame. The greenhouse effect is formed due to the burning of coal and oil. The resulting gases absorb a lot of solar heat and how we can eliminate it. All countries use oil and products made from oil. Mining is not used in such a large amount. I do not think that mining or cryptocurrency is bad for the environment. Now there are more serious problems for the environment.

The environment need to be taken care of and we all have objectives to ensure that our environment is not damaged to the level of having to suffer from our weakness to have taken bold steps to care for the environment. Difference countries has environmental laws that guide everybody to ensure that the environment is not too damaged to the extent of causing harm to us. Bitcoin is responsible for any climate change so for those that are ignorantly  saying Bitcoin causes major  pollution, it's wrong.

We need to care about the environment which is the base for long life. Different countries have varied pollution index and based on that is the life of the people. Over the years there were more discussion about Bitcoin mining process causing a heavy damage to the environment. To this several measures were taken by the governments creating laws that needs to be fulfilled. Renewable energy usage will make things better, and the emission released from industries are more hazardous yet governments never take any action. This is just a way to weaken the network, but it won't happen for this reason. As there is always alternate solutions available.

Unfortunately the world doesn't think the same thing that we think. There are politicians, whole political parties and their followers, business people and all of that which end up with something that is ending up being horrible to world because they do not care.

Business people do not care because that means they will earn less money and spend more money, not that they wouldn't profit, they would still profit but they want to profit even more. People do not because they are ignorant and they listen to what the media tells them to think. Politicians do not because they are getting bribed by the oil companies and like to keep getting paid.

Hi, everyone!
I have also heard about this issue.
If you're into news about ecology, you should know about the global climate problem.
How does this affect the bitcoin market?

I trust climate change, but I don't trust environmental organizations. Some of them just using their position and going to be political rather than supporting the "ban anything" that causing climate change.

But it's good many big people concern this, I hope there is more efficient ASIC miner outhere

I don't think that this is not gonna that much effect  on market . But Without knowing anything Some people say this is just part of the ecology system, but I would say bitcoin is part of the ecology system because bitcoin mining requires a lot of electrical energy and generates a lot of heat.  So I would say that if the scientists point out these, then the market will be affected, but it will not be too much.

I’m not sure this has a huge effect on the price of bitcoin. I think a lot of the environmental impact stuff out there is a bit overhyped. I know that mining isn’t good for the environment period, but I think this whole thing about it being a disaster for the environment is propaganda used to try and deter people from using and supporting bitcoin.

Yes, it's very sad. We want the people we elect to the government to honestly do their job. Then maybe they will think more about protecting the world around them. I want environmental awareness to be a fashionable trend. Then we will be able to see real actions in this direction. If caring for the cleanliness of our planet becomes the main issue of all countries, then the world will become clean and healthy for people.

I really care about the environment, what I usually do is don't throw garbage in the river, and like to plant trees on land that doesn't seem to have any plants, now I'm making teak  seeds which I will prepare to plant on the riverbank near my house.

Lot of environmental degradation cause by human activities are so much that we are paying for the consequences and our government does not seem to understand why they need to center area of focus on this aspect, i got to discover that most of the natural disasters would have been geared by the influence of the environment which the rate of pollution is the major forces behind it, how do we go go about the restoration of the environmental system and make a good living for both man and animals, this is a major concern and government have the highest role to play in such situation.

Human survival in the future needs to be considered, therefore the balance of nature must be maintained, many government efforts apply regulations for mining, the ecosystem in it is maintained as much as possible so that not many living things become extinct. on the other hand we also always commemorate world environment day, which aims to warn us to jointly protect the earth. therefore the choice of alternative energy I think is very suitable to maintain the balance of the ecosystem

There have been environmental changes and occurrences that happened for years and so far, it didn't affect the price of Bitcoin. However, it's still something that we should be mindful of because it will surely affect the whole human race. I hope that there will be crypto projects that would also focus on environmental healing and restoration so we'll still be able to survive in the future.

It really won't. Scientists are the least listened experts of their field, most people in most fields get their words in somehow but when it is scientists’ people rarely listen to them. Most of the time it is not really that much of a big deal because it is not an important thing but sometimes it is very important like climate change and they yet still can't get themselves heard.

This is why I believe that "rebellion" will not be heard that much neither, because if they were capable of getting themselves heard then they wouldn't really need this to begin with as well. World will slowly kill us all and that will just be our demise because we did not care at the correct time.

well ... sometimes behind the appointment of news like this which is associated with bitcoin by the news media out there is always hidden behind it. be it propaganda or diversion of issues. and what is clear is that news like this doesn't really affect the bitcoin market too much.

Salute to what you are doing because after all it is very important to protect and care for the environment,
I really hope people around you do the same and care about the environment,
indeed it all has to start with ourselves and hopefully more people will realize the importance of protecting the environment

This is the path to getting a better world as well, just being like that person would improve so much. However, you need to realize that even though we can be polluting the world a lot less, there are so many companies that destroy it at all times. Just Texas energy companies alone is like 30%+ of the world's climate change causers, which is a proof enough that they won't be really changing anything soon, they would make it nothing but harder.

This is why I care about what companies are doing instead of what people are doing. It is a noble effort to personally try to be better, but unless companies and national laws change, we will keep going the wrong way.

The fact is that quite a lot of big companies are destroying the environment, so I agree with you that we should pay attention to what
companies do rather than what individuals do. Because the impact of environmental damage by the company is very large, can even trigger
the occurrence of many natural disasters in the future. The government should act quickly and issue regulations on how companies should pay
more attention to the environment. But the fact is that quite a lot of big companies are allowed to damage the environment without getting
sanctioned, simply because they pay big taxes and provide a large income for the country. Things like that can ultimately have a negative
impact on human life, even in my country in some areas it is difficult to get clean water and also the air quality is getting worse. If left for
a long time, it will certainly cause natural disasters, because the environment is increasingly damaged.

yes you are right. it all has to start with oneself. However, awareness of the importance of keeping the environment green and clean is currently rare.
what @semar_mesem is doing is exemplary. and if everyone has this kind of awareness then of course this environment will be maintained.

The earth is warming and I find that really worrisome, a recent report said many parts of India have places where the temperature exceeds 50 degrees Celsius, this is a temperature beyond human tolerance.

Bitcoin mining obviously also emits a certain amount of emissions that contribute to global warming but it will be nothing compared to other heavy industries. Bitcoin is not the main cause of environmental disaster but just bitcoin-averse governments trying to blame bitcoin.

The sooner we can move away from fossil fuels and on to renewables, the less there will be an argument against cryptocurrency mining on coins which use proof of work can be considered partially wasteful. The irony is, that a lot of the precious and rare metals used to create things like solar panels can be very damaging to extract from the environment, but hopefully they're used in a way that is more useful than burning up single use fuels. We're all sharing this planet which is slowly heating up, so should all be thinking about ways to save energy, because there have already been vast changes in the last few decades and we might even see the ice caps melting in the near future.

Unfortunately, here is where Bitcoin's detrimental environmental impact manifests itself. According to Investopedia, the network "uses 121 Terawatt-hours of electricity every year... more than the entire country of Argentina." According to a recent analysis conducted by the University of Cambridge, coal accounts for over 40% of mining power. That's not a good number. Because Bitcoin is a finite resource, the energy requirements of mining Bitcoins will only increase with time.
According to NBC, (https://www.colorado.edu/ecenter/2022/02/07/crypto-woes-cryptocurrency-and-climate-change-coal-e-waste#:~:text=According%20to%20NBC%2C%20a%20study,equivalent%20to%202.7%20billion%20homes.) "Bitcoin production is anticipated to generate between 22 and 22.9 million metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions per year," according to a study published in the Joule scientific journal in 2019. This equates to 2.7 billion households.

One bitcoin cost $1 in April 2011, reached an all-time high of about $65,000 in April this year, and is now valued around $48,000 as of this writing. Because some bitcoin investors have become millionaires overnight, an increasing number of people are interested in the idea of becoming wealthy through cryptocurrency investments. However,  (https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2021/09/20/bitcoins-impacts-on-climate-and-the-environment/)Bitcoin's growing popularity may make it impossible for the globe to avoid the worst effects of climate change, due to the cryptocurrency's massive energy usage and far-reaching environmental  repercussions.

Yes, I think that bitcoin is not the main environmental problem. There are many other global problems. When I hear that bitcoin is a big problem, I get surprised. Bitcoin mining harms nature on our planet, but large industrial production does much more harm to the environment. It is necessary to approach this problem comprehensively, and not consider it in parts.

I don't think climate or environment can stop bitcoin because bitcoin is a digital currency which is not country by any countries in the world. Climate can affect other things in the country but it will be difficult for climate to affect bitcoin negatively because bitcoin is different from fiat money which environment or climate can affect negatively in the country. During the pandemic that made the government to announce lockdown in the country based on the covid-19 virus that was spreading all over the country which was helping bitcoin users to make a huge amount of money from their investment at the moment.

Bitcoin is not governed by any country in the world but it's also not above the law. I like Bitcoin but this is the fact.
There are some people called Green peace and what they care about is the health of the environment. If they took a good step toward Bitcoin mining it may affect miners if Bitcoin miners don't switch to renewable energy which will the amount toxic released by Bitcoin mining

The lack of influence on news about the environment, whether it's a matter of climate or anything related to the environment, on bitcoin, it can be said that for now there is clearly no influence. but I don't know the future when big industries or countries start mining bitcoins in the future and environmentalists start highlighting it. then maybe that's when it will start to have an impact. but for now because the number of bitcoin miners is still relatively rare in every country and not many are mining on a large scale so there is no visible impact because environmentalists have not even paid attention to this. but it is undeniable after the corona virus outbreak and many people are starting to look for alternatives to make money by staying at home. then people's attention began to look to bitcoin and environmentalists began to look at this.