Title: Competition to settle a bet and win 0.1btc Post by: Tanagi on May 05, 2022, 03:12:23 AM Hey all,
This is a genuine competition. My friend and I have a bet. He says that because Bitcoin has been around so long now, it should be possible to crowd source a private key for almost any specific public address as he reckons there will now be databases out there with trillions upon trillions of matched key pairs. I say this is rubbish and it cannot be done. So, here are 100 addresses. They are all zero balance, sorry. If anyone can provide a correct private key for any of these addresses, I will give you 0.1 btc. I don't think it can be done and I'm putting my money where my mouth is. Prove me wrong haha! If you do, then you can just post the private key in here for me to check. Good luck! 1NqCDAp9Tavw6BEu2iWR25kZUvCVttWBJa 1CPvaFoqKi7uEPnT4PXEPBqPjweX2d1HzY 18hS4y6VcBDPqMokWryEyzxZMchTysJ2Rf 1GzYf2bBTEFVcQ13WxbZQAmfhhEipHNhd8 1Q2svhTBsmCRniEGvrWYJtFcPpbz16tWw1 1KiVNDeZKjKEYPceFYKcxiCv9QsJh8SJrq 1Hte44gbcKtP41fsMZf5wQTJsmiqPQNNPe 1A4H4YMVjGfwJxLzsEhXKmCtrejLsvsf5j 113aDW21DoZRn9jvnhV6ddBXYtMUtaDGCR 1D7AU4YNDDMtb3H6XuGAGeLt9McxKSYr7E 1BjiZ39ymLEzwtgDy5k9zC7kMoKhpYGwkW 1BuhEPp3nqFxmGMcAgAHd85uBHtjF5uvoa 1J8GeeNt7PMGVweJpXXDesTCyRpXg8SgXa 1DvMaTcPXWnkHxcxagMAJzTKbhgjwvjy3C 18Y99oqAt4soUnWNyjNphVX3Eyej1kq5aW 1E51ggHBXw34xUdMYk7KguvCz9bEBNQ8Ri 17anXnwqKNE162A1xanxwdaTXHqTsRF8Tq 175jUpJsn4c6muM78xFRS1Mju1yA32Pois 1MCwiqM8VHZdRsBY3bheHqw3zdbcHRutLr 1DNw69JjXRdkBQYLFiCfLToUReywu937mC 1KV3RYVYgEctFUVwopwyyhVY74FVDTLHiG 184CJQdvMPumXE98r1ziSSAeGePgX9YkUf 1FNrs1oGKxgSzRHwgQk4wyVwWXqnVZzB6S 1Esn8xsY1xjyinmF3nNZXayu9scfojBmsL 16S5xgveTb3kG5ckTjGBsUqUzBENMB993j 1L2YmVJeUHBAe7U66uMrQ4VEiNW5yqJw9i 1KncMzFHG6axBPK7BhDxD8R7uwEziVLoAg 1MoPamP7inUG2yoceo4TEZw8SuNx8Fhj4f 1KCLk7pWvHsZBpP6PCwPG6YPyRBYevsPpM 19RczRGkZHdZi2ue27dEepnmQAsWv1g7Pb 14ZEGHyc8aEvMSxyPXEEnzbgUQsWWak4iX 1dnkV5aaxoV9jB9yPzW2tBYJPGiGSmmZe 1E7XkfR5EReYCuEZJDqQG7SUf6QtNkw9r 1m9sWgK71fnjDFk2H4ZXq9gb7LD5rfSfC 1E96MiuNJySUeh7s6kP9qRUxEak7L6AbHJ 1Keqt1UnTk8Boc2NoL7qfY5evyj9m8Vkxr 1361JiHgJvt26W6EET2F8hfWb5yo2THbfY 17b4s2tbCVtz7z3srKP1MLsLUoMuCeuxax 19jkPFVxSGoXQobM8dRrb3g4L3JJoMrpo3 1JfFwLSyUKEWfuu7qC8WTe64LSHJ1Aghd9 1HQYW5DUSkysQwN8LvSL5E9zgeDaAHz4wF 12AHkbifFnTQN6dmqGp1TcPMSSgjJBASWy 12fzPa3abwZXHkpdf4LUKJh41NAKomKYEe 1JK3ixeZZsr186ot8wosczACVbRk2sMU5G 1jaKLEApPwDvszkzA9XjoVEjkt26tsLXj 1EGwHxGpoR8H8YNdLayMBfyhhGFmrgsxRg 1dFiUzLmAFegTHtej8chYsbyMs9K7WDQf 1G3tZz4dSxTzgMF1RS8cQVY9rM5grqAy2g 1HANzSZuscWWmzDPV4szoicAmAMLLjmz3b 1DFqH2jymspJ3z7cRu83tA8o3AP9yhLBjY 1Km3tfxGEU4TtarcipYVLhi7CPehC2q148 1KvkAeqLhasgXscBGhsmrxw1hZ2FJk5vYi 1H9jhMwH9vS4Mzc8xmw4ogLApXvuyojZiy 1F4wVVGULN8wW2MUqh8jwhwjJ1K94rFRpE 1Nff2VjurvibZ16nTHeaSZ5w8pT59QwxyF 1QCD8UWMfckuQiQKPt9YLpK6TtvEj9SYZ8 1GrPXgrk4zzu7Maf75uzuw9STDEDYAKxvj 18Be3aTrQ4WcwN1cNjXFpa3eVRcP9nKpH8 1BvQTnx7DPXFW4VKzrGfNSqt75Nqp8eDei 1KE5m9vZs7UWwCbm697LStJJsc9f9vtcaH 1AXH5iCs7xjPzqBjmvTWLRdKWvQbah9XNH 1Ad76X9Phky6WmNStB2ArLomDtkSFzxy6e 1CiYAuUkENDWemrCBgJUWqLxJnotDkui4h 1CXzrxjSvpFnhH3BJnGZEVZMm5MaAzT67f 1N4QZcV4jUEHv2nmEhCoZbs41R9W5BNfvF 17b4GXGhRGxLBJsBeRPgFb5FeDN7E9u1Lf 1EHfmVnoNe2vyo8vEXHk1mH61jaYcVpXun 1CBpT59ggRSRsB1rceXkVWDxCYbajn9gp4 18wGWJq9mRjQjcQNqP3WDpcMucc26eVn5q 17t8mi1AkUwx4s6cUGfswzHYXDgXpg3Vdp 1BoW3EiURSxGPSyyFpSM8Qu2WCRovRDUto 18Zp38j2bYpJwuKNMKvzRcRjnx5jJSsiDP 19VjALc3RGkUgMJWyd3MdCrrs8NCbG5UBL 1DcbTVXt5UX6687KRTsKy36EXGBL8bLRcq 1Lmw8TSgvBK3bjGKAzk9Cc38ZBa6voTaFk 1CpYYmmvAZCvYJouhhJeha7Mo2stFcKEGF 1Lv7z7FpfYXRRCbgNvmJTgGU6MmMY6guHv 1Ld3oJVX5dyMtZ5SojLjJt5WhHAY2Yq6qo 193iVaGqazkxHQfc874Ww9KcrA1qDzov2Z 1CWFm49hzXbTMYnp5DNtXNvRzg5E33CPNn 1EjFX9bBXvGsLXt4UEzhuYnx3tHFpB473K 1Ai67DQexCNDEyDiWSXncYgCu3tYJzpS4f 1KfgjDnn8YjB6tmtdkzrCxadwCNAhBvrfR 12N8sUyPCP4q2KZ4FpDrqdheCvnbgnzXyQ 1PPgefvNdEp9vhmxw83DZykb1shWLpFywk 1LrjXVqjuMGWg7ck5yKaWXn3KpeWsse4GL 1FHwEr4SfADjXNUxo8hL2STBx7Yy5rH9pS 1B8DZzvqqmGXqU2ZfQYMHBn39fn6Pa7gAZ 151BfH2Mo2uweQU8jjBmct4wp9vXpkLdnq 1CwkvpjidScyNZGe4ARVCSUhuunoMeMa1w 1PrfTaFCszftTeRaVMYjh41HG8JUa6rESa 1J2wtW5LPCEMWaxNK2LuyWE6inyD7grCoQ 165GopXq5h7JSnapF3knSZu8Nmtp5bqmAX 1ERuvnYkeotXUHQsgryq5frgnwhStD5ZVq 1CmBA5M5mhTvRjc8UGM6YiyNeWVse7DGWh 1CvMvmpHmXZfwuUEjSiSafpDz6gA8Lr1un 1ArTfRaDTzwnW8X65UyYBEHeHomEWrrHHs 13iuoAoFfbgfDUNSKkH59ARNM43s8iFKoK 17Vxo5CfJ32FneKyDL8MYHKrEt2uwrqKv8 14cjhxJeUEywpEHUncZjiy5msWmXRFmmYn Title: Re: Competition to settle a bet and win 0.1btc Post by: jackg on May 05, 2022, 03:43:25 AM There's already proof this isn't possible. There were "mining" groups trying to use databases of known addresses and generate private keys for them to try to break them (it was mainly discussed and attempted a few years back).
I did hear rumours of claims from the group involved they succeeded with a few addresses but it's not really been well backed and it could've just been someone internally claiming it when they prefunded the address that they then claimed to have bruteforced. I do t think there's been anyone complaining their funds have been taken this way either. Title: Re: Competition to settle a bet and win 0.1btc Post by: pooya87 on May 05, 2022, 03:49:32 AM databases out there with trillions upon trillions of matched key pairs. Some people have a hard time imagining how big the search space is. It is clear here from using "trillions upon trillions" too. To put simply you are thinking in terms of a grain of sand compared to all the sand in the world.Here is a trillion compared to 2256 which is about the number of private keys there are. It helps you visualize how ridiculous it is even if you search "trillions upon trillions" of keys! Code: 1000000000000 P.S. The only way anybody would ever find a key by searching is if the key creation was flawed like the broken blockchain.info wallets back in the day that used the same entropy (bugged random.org) to create the same key for everyone or the puzzles where the search space is intentionally decreased to a much smaller one. Title: Re: Competition to settle a bet and win 0.1btc Post by: Tanagi on May 05, 2022, 08:43:53 AM Yes, I completely agree, hence me putting up such a large sum as incentive.
The only way I think it may be possible is if, by sheer luck, one of these addresses have already been key paired on a database somewhere. But odds are almost nil. Title: Re: Competition to settle a bet and win 0.1btc Post by: Pmalek on May 05, 2022, 09:06:54 AM You don't have to provide any addresses yourself. Everything you need can be obtained from block explorers or by checking all addresses ever used here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265993.0), or those that have/had balances here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5254914.0).
If it was possible to obtain private keys that way, Bitcoin wouldn't make any sense. There isn't even a danger for addresses whose public keys are known, despite the occasional worry that supercomputers might one day be powerful enough to obtain a private key from a public key. Title: Re: Competition to settle a bet and win 0.1btc Post by: Lucius on May 05, 2022, 09:58:30 AM He says that because Bitcoin has been around so long now, it should be possible to crowd source a private key for almost any specific public address as he reckons there will now be databases out there with trillions upon trillions of matched key pairs. I say this is rubbish and it cannot be done. If your friend thinks so (and he's not the only one), then you need to give him the challenge to have fun for the rest of his life. From time to time you can ask him if he has found something, and maybe after a while, he will realize how wrong he is ;) https://i.imgur.com/7JldYnn.png Source (https://lbc.cryptoguru.org/dio/1) Title: Re: Competition to settle a bet and win 0.1btc Post by: Wiwo on May 05, 2022, 10:05:31 AM This is an impossible mission and no one can ever get you the private keys unless the person owns the address, there has been a lot of effort in the past to break the Bitcoin blockchain security code to steal information from the source code but it has always met with a steel end, if you see anyone having to access the private key or access public wallet address it must be an insider game so hackers most time don't walk alone there must be an insider's.
Title: Re: Competition to settle a bet and win 0.1btc Post by: zasad@ on May 05, 2022, 11:54:49 AM Search for yourself on this site
https://keys.lol/ Maybe you will find other wallets that have a balance. Although it is impossible to do this, the traffic statistics of this site are surprising https://keys.lol/statistics Title: Re: Competition to settle a bet and win 0.1btc Post by: kryptqnick on May 05, 2022, 12:39:58 PM This isn't possible, that is correct. If it were, it would mean that there's a risk of the money in one's wallet, and it would defeat the whole point of the security that cryptography provides. It's not impossible in principle, though, right? It's just that the current technologies don't have enough computing power to make the calculations in any reasonable amount of time. But that's why some are afraid of quantum computers, and there were tons of discussions on how that can be the end of cryptos. Still, though, it has to be a major breakthrough in quantum computer to make that big of a difference that private keys can be figured out. And it's not clear if it's a matter of time or if it's going to ever happen (kind of like with people travelling to other planets).
Title: Re: Competition to settle a bet and win 0.1btc Post by: ajaxtempest on May 05, 2022, 01:05:58 PM Hey all, This is a genuine competition. My friend and I have a bet. He says that because Bitcoin has been around so long now, it should be possible to crowd source a private key for almost any specific public address as he reckons there will now be databases out there with trillions upon trillions of matched key pairs. I say this is rubbish and it cannot be done. So, here are 100 addresses. They are all zero balance, sorry. If anyone can provide a correct private key for any of these addresses, I will give you 0.1 btc. I don't think it can be done and I'm putting my money where my mouth is. Prove me wrong haha! If you do, then you can just post the private key in here for me to check. 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EDIt: Dang i thought you were creating a bet and hiding the private keys in the btc addresses. NO it cant be done. Unless someone has posted it online and it has been indexed. If you can extract private keys buy just having the public key then its game over for bitcoin Title: Re: Competition to settle a bet and win 0.1btc Post by: LoyceV on May 07, 2022, 09:59:31 AM If anyone can provide a correct private key for any of these addresses, I will give you 0.1 btc. Why the detour? Just show the address holding 0.1 Bitcoin, and ask someone to find it's private key.Let me help you: these are the first 100 out of 100,807 addresses holding 0.1BTC: Code: 12mRUU9kRp5VaqTnHvebEdP6PenVgpB2Ck While you're at it, it may be more rewarding to try to brute-force the Bitcoin Rich List (https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html). Good luck :) As for your bet: My friend and I have a bet. Let him prove it :) It gives him the chance to convince himself how secure Bitcoin is.He says that because Bitcoin has been around so long now, it should be possible to Yes, I completely agree, hence me putting up such a large sum as incentive. It's not a large sum. The Bitcoin Rich List proves that 100,000 BTC isn't enough to brute-force it either.Title: Re: Competition to settle a bet and win 0.1btc Post by: BlackHatCoiner on May 07, 2022, 10:40:22 AM He says that because Bitcoin has been around so long now, it should be possible to crowd source a private key for almost any specific public address as he reckons there will now be databases out there with trillions upon trillions of matched key pairs. Just show him this video: How secure is 256 bit security? (https://youtu.be/S9JGmA5_unY)However, this isn't the real security of a bitcoin address. A bitcoin address is an encoding of a 160-bit number (plus some extra things), which is calculated by hashing a 256-bit one. Therefore, a collision would only require about 2159 searches. But, to be even more pedantic, you don't have to find a RIPEMD-160 collision to steal bitcoins you don't own (without threatening anyone!). The early bitcoin blocks have been paid in public key, meaning that if can you can solve the discrete logarithm problem (https://crypto.stackexchange.com/a/48817), you could find those public keys' private keys. Given that the known algorithms that can solve ECDLP (BSGS, Pollard's rho etc.) require O(sqrt(n)) steps where n the order of G in secp256k1 (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Secp256k1) (n~=2^256), the security of a public key is about 128 bits. So, instead, give him this public key: Code: 024b83426cf9bff257261d87f2f2858b51b2eea756c0123c7e05bc0a007425c9f2 Whose owner possesses https://blackhatcoiner.com/?address=1P5ZEDWTKTFGxQjZphgWPQUpe554WKDfHQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5366056.0): Code: 1P5ZEDWTKTFGxQjZphgWPQUpe554WKDfHQ It's 2^128 times easier and the prize is over a million times greater than 0.1 BTC. ;) (If we assume it's a prize :P) |