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May 05, 2022, 03:12:23 AM |
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Hey all,
This is a genuine competition.
My friend and I have a bet.
He says that because Bitcoin has been around so long now, it should be possible to crowd source a private key for almost any specific public address as he reckons there will now be databases out there with trillions upon trillions of matched key pairs. I say this is rubbish and it cannot be done.
So, here are 100 addresses. They are all zero balance, sorry.
If anyone can provide a correct private key for any of these addresses, I will give you 0.1 btc.
I don't think it can be done and I'm putting my money where my mouth is.
Prove me wrong haha!
If you do, then you can just post the private key in here for me to check.
Good luck!
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jackg
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May 05, 2022, 03:43:25 AM |
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There's already proof this isn't possible. There were "mining" groups trying to use databases of known addresses and generate private keys for them to try to break them (it was mainly discussed and attempted a few years back).
I did hear rumours of claims from the group involved they succeeded with a few addresses but it's not really been well backed and it could've just been someone internally claiming it when they prefunded the address that they then claimed to have bruteforced. I do t think there's been anyone complaining their funds have been taken this way either.
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pooya87
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May 05, 2022, 03:49:32 AM |
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databases out there with trillions upon trillions of matched key pairs.
Some people have a hard time imagining how big the search space is. It is clear here from using "trillions upon trillions" too. To put simply you are thinking in terms of a grain of sand compared to all the sand in the world. Here is a trillion compared to 2 256 which is about the number of private keys there are. It helps you visualize how ridiculous it is even if you search "trillions upon trillions" of keys! 1000000000000 115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639936
P.S. The only way anybody would ever find a key by searching is if the key creation was flawed like the broken blockchain.info wallets back in the day that used the same entropy (bugged random.org) to create the same key for everyone or the puzzles where the search space is intentionally decreased to a much smaller one.
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Tanagi (OP)
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May 05, 2022, 08:43:53 AM |
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Yes, I completely agree, hence me putting up such a large sum as incentive.
The only way I think it may be possible is if, by sheer luck, one of these addresses have already been key paired on a database somewhere. But odds are almost nil.
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Pmalek
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May 05, 2022, 09:06:54 AM |
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You don't have to provide any addresses yourself. Everything you need can be obtained from block explorers or by checking all addresses ever used here, or those that have/had balances here. If it was possible to obtain private keys that way, Bitcoin wouldn't make any sense. There isn't even a danger for addresses whose public keys are known, despite the occasional worry that supercomputers might one day be powerful enough to obtain a private key from a public key.
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Blackjack.fun🎲
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May 05, 2022, 09:58:30 AM |
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He says that because Bitcoin has been around so long now, it should be possible to crowd source a private key for almost any specific public address as he reckons there will now be databases out there with trillions upon trillions of matched key pairs. I say this is rubbish and it cannot be done.
If your friend thinks so (and he's not the only one), then you need to give him the challenge to have fun for the rest of his life. From time to time you can ask him if he has found something, and maybe after a while, he will realize how wrong he is Source
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Wiwo
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May 05, 2022, 10:05:31 AM |
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This is an impossible mission and no one can ever get you the private keys unless the person owns the address, there has been a lot of effort in the past to break the Bitcoin blockchain security code to steal information from the source code but it has always met with a steel end, if you see anyone having to access the private key or access public wallet address it must be an insider game so hackers most time don't walk alone there must be an insider's.
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May 05, 2022, 11:54:49 AM |
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Search for yourself on this site https://keys.lol/Maybe you will find other wallets that have a balance. Although it is impossible to do this, the traffic statistics of this site are surprising https://keys.lol/statistics
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This isn't possible, that is correct. If it were, it would mean that there's a risk of the money in one's wallet, and it would defeat the whole point of the security that cryptography provides. It's not impossible in principle, though, right? It's just that the current technologies don't have enough computing power to make the calculations in any reasonable amount of time. But that's why some are afraid of quantum computers, and there were tons of discussions on how that can be the end of cryptos. Still, though, it has to be a major breakthrough in quantum computer to make that big of a difference that private keys can be figured out. And it's not clear if it's a matter of time or if it's going to ever happen (kind of like with people travelling to other planets).
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May 05, 2022, 01:05:58 PM |
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Hey all,
This is a genuine competition.
My friend and I have a bet.
He says that because Bitcoin has been around so long now, it should be possible to crowd source a private key for almost any specific public address as he reckons there will now be databases out there with trillions upon trillions of matched key pairs. I say this is rubbish and it cannot be done.
So, here are 100 addresses. They are all zero balance, sorry.
If anyone can provide a correct private key for any of these addresses, I will give you 0.1 btc.
I don't think it can be done and I'm putting my money where my mouth is.
Prove me wrong haha!
If you do, then you can just post the private key in here for me to check.
Good luck!
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1CwkvpjidScyNZGe4ARVCSUhuunoMeMa1w
1PrfTaFCszftTeRaVMYjh41HG8JUa6rESa
1J2wtW5LPCEMWaxNK2LuyWE6inyD7grCoQ
165GopXq5h7JSnapF3knSZu8Nmtp5bqmAX
1ERuvnYkeotXUHQsgryq5frgnwhStD5ZVq
1CmBA5M5mhTvRjc8UGM6YiyNeWVse7DGWh
1CvMvmpHmXZfwuUEjSiSafpDz6gA8Lr1un
1ArTfRaDTzwnW8X65UyYBEHeHomEWrrHHs
13iuoAoFfbgfDUNSKkH59ARNM43s8iFKoK
17Vxo5CfJ32FneKyDL8MYHKrEt2uwrqKv8
14cjhxJeUEywpEHUncZjiy5msWmXRFmmYn
Am i on the right track? EDIt: Dang i thought you were creating a bet and hiding the private keys in the btc addresses. NO it cant be done. Unless someone has posted it online and it has been indexed. If you can extract private keys buy just having the public key then its game over for bitcoin
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LoyceV
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If anyone can provide a correct private key for any of these addresses, I will give you 0.1 btc. Why the detour? Just show the address holding 0.1 Bitcoin, and ask someone to find it's private key. Let me help you: these are the first 100 out of 100,807 addresses holding 0.1 BTC: 12mRUU9kRp5VaqTnHvebEdP6PenVgpB2Ck 3CByGM6EETcAYP5PwXsMgPMCoNDvZdNpES 32EhstCQZ6H3j8LYnF8AuxUMEHwQN9EbL5 16q2WAi3xoEvj5tX8onsJh6X4u6RVA7SbV 14Fbm5XHG3rjJh8gpEh4C6upGjWVZrDa4H 38jxX4JEbccmeozDTPLQuWPXdpzLnjYAtq 3APjpsnpDwtZ4aTUzL5b27m2NtxYcLY5uT 1DdPaCEhQStZuL293nqBYoo32TW34bmJKj bc1qckany53tprm6xdqhkp6x3ucj5yhdsjkugcgue4 15pzAeQ5XH1f5b2wStt8zHbJDykthZfEbi 1GEa96FUELVUJRFP8brXQJg3BgrRdhtKrQ bc1qnljvpgngapvj8tmnx6fld3rwp4dq5ms3r98yw2 bc1qqh3llf2mle0autpsxazsxg0qsrpuewm8zzgjwv bc1qym6s0ys2kdhvt9h6wa67tv37vydgud4sqd80ae 1NtRSra7fwYgqGoBxdWkagnJNPW2R8TRGM 1E8FDiE7jgSZYGdep5phMNibnjPRcQBHFD 1HgoFH8UQfKUYdVPJbuaqTHPVnYfBugcvy bc1qzzml2l49gttxzs8aqmt7cvdkundkn3nmcpnj50 1DCEnf3ZkGZSukXSv2Vxd58j9uQJkuoXpK bc1qk3g2s7u5ssw4jm370h7r83tnv322fqc8rw3jh5 bc1q5wzjsenxsjtnhnjsjp9zgye5jr2wmys9atfrlq 399Y1TGZyRpvhUHmwMURDT3ff5bkzGUoks bc1q70aduwqrshdvvxwhx9nc5ucv04qpk82kwypr7g 337Ra6aGFYJaUdKhqNSXVKf2ptHtpKqx4E 3ME2KAP5GRsgwdw524DnUHRjPnmWNeT5U4 15SsAjZuRnshixu8EW7Q6G5iBYG1AruQjb 1Nh4dPb7pKJKrk9M4sVXoZkYCwQ7abCG3U 3P3PhrMQeJ3n5mqjjSog7ttwTjNcQCM5pC 13xTCRA3upL9dEiXnnn5DyCwEoGodQ8SYo bc1qyuqd7hxcn9pqjrcr8vn4myay6ym27s4h52gc66 1JScZFpoeuRuzuNtNAY4DyWzTDQz8X8rHk 36dvyqpkbRSjSJe9e1QRksbVYAk5HVMYFi 36Pg8BzwjXxufTY8JLRXt175WuVwGvwY6H bc1qy82ceer6r5vxkveykx87rzenmtpxzjyqxp4g4x 1QAJ38WLQGTsxb9gNoYb3MDJMp4tjgnaUb 3GKiZvB5uLqXjmBq1MrngqXNNLFGH6R6zt bc1qaa7rc5xkklqjemc80y2scr749ckucrgl6qpsq7 1CJVAQMG9PDqPSq4Wq7sQxRt1Yudf5So6G 1GsTfbdfYxz8a5mmKqGxF4gb3sV3WXcnBW 1VVXGDp8cE98qGvSAbWLwhDifCbrJowrb bc1qxare57w9pghr2gj5dhlxmzyc8xvt3w0asnmwe2 1M9A9uiRHSqYFLVG7EpDMVKENNNkKTG75L 1D2rM9yxLX2fvq7JWBuwt1nCwWw6S7Ju8Y bc1qpg7ly8fplzta728h37h9ts80n248q96sw664y6 1FS7iXy1US84MXDLCkgpdpzJ8W1K8RbQbe 18SngDrnKATDZKPMvZjfHDpQA9etNfVAqq 19o2vxfXZtVw1Pwi9zPZy8c5HDCxgn3raS bc1qwl4vw8jrk5d8c8y0yqz93y0jw7g0fnqpvprm45 3Bikr2LifYZmH4ED9czSjUTCjFhqJwbk9B bc1qtwcjyyrzww2qec6tanlpee9na8gtge4mcug3jq bc1q5mvasxxa40vgrvjq80pl7k0pwp8gfkf3ph63e6 1FiBc7J9EXu3tSEtPCpKxMUNWDeA6r5pQp bc1qt4ma9hs02ccplvrvumj92fdgw6dn2mta5fs9r8 16kwQRPni8ZKaaoLTSTB8kUwdyRdxpim2t 3Gt8ExXhKPP6eCf1WEe8hFPL1igbwttsDD 1Chk18ms1LsstCfvutbwBUcJ8fuqadDE7E 3CRfhZ1pwxcWP9EHRFKyB2vvsitQFzof4o 1F8PwwZxiuzwdYMFKXSVioVQDmGGs3Aw8z 1EqmBNzty5y1WVUpWJritv3bmYBmoXAtVx 3GfWDgErZwLtgNUEZhwDJTpewoJ7iqUoiQ 3CQD6aA67urbWSDxwyFRJ7hRYABw1KjwRg bc1qynrhuagtq5x54ag50t8r3y3utmj7h345gm55h3 bc1qlhhdeh837qwwfmpyhnp5l9kpa6fxqat4evlvjx 1CxMt9UUqon44zhkVYb14bZZtk2MJCpgZ7 3BJz3rEkdWfPpQgRRV7iN9i9WSCnTNKwtN 38DCGb77MMs3ALrHx3VFHVcAzDSnu6DjcF 36fBBtZEzYP1PcwDUjHsV6uPDaut3io9Nh 34jGdJpnSHixF9vyb8Amu2gk6EwMd1cKgn 1EfnbRs4k8BaqLjp6VFBiPF6CE83fzrfg1 1C2wFEu13pr597St8W5fiLQz9gqyx7SXvT bc1qtl8zrj2frncf7gz6nrmcea3zfzlaj8mcdxuz5x 34faQm3wd1ZUx78h6cDwUSUiZCZvZd3dTL bc1qd47pfkndpmygwcfccnhdmacgkft6xg43x9x8hj bc1q0agrclvjvaajqkc5v03x342c2rrffu58ky4gvj 16exVDqYZYxTcVpgdkdmuFnvpnGHnmSEfr 3CSkGUGC1TzPsSi48mGzUA8QqgXx7P3KFA 31iPqWYyfHmqQPFtTghqkivsdBaN9sCpuT 1LmBK8d7R7zLFUVP3PK1CKfyxjhAJMZbn7 3JciXCZsQWFV7wHGNErCCPEvTrq4Wmb2kA 1BLVewxGqonzjuCLp6XX7ea7jVYtbSk8Tu bc1qhhx5fkky8fsqcrmdps2lsckel0fq3r8nag4r8q bc1qt57ejclxgnpl4h2asrunu98prm4d08ugfs74m5 bc1q3y94gmv9h42ax63ase966utjhalq7dm7kr870y 3EwTTq8z6sACVenKnfwg2M2ZLjjgNjsR3h 1brarWVzKMrMe94Q5NPQv7MXCEiDz2sU4 19UFTQjsXd7s6W1jDs9SwcweV4A89eoNS5 bc1qvltg5fdy3s08hm8lpce63y4xl8wpeqxwtfvl08lz2jj5f4jmhjzszdu2s9 bc1qc8evjpckhht9zensj7u6mflk7hkqay3xqymjfc 1MbbCtkEbdGMhf15nRUiGiAQE5QNby99Aj 14TzdgMPeirMUVNoo8mh8oiSR97BEu6sk5 12nNNeejNaEdDyPKKtk38ZuZYs9PnPmeKN07 3MqPBH3wz5mTx7SuNyW2iroMoEDZucxQy8 176Ncj3w6LMiYx8WGurdwDNAxZmvLY1aHE bc1qw2aj4dw2dnysdhxf97d0f3fnxvvdeqdjcraw32 37wZ5msJRD4ULFz3Lauuibm3janjwtaoXz 3JB8hzgM2pLRjT3zhyFx4xATRp9H5ePYSJ bc1qqlf5rus96339wygag8t4lrt52ndxrc7y73nz2a 37Rnmpp22YWFp6LtwZk3S145UqHa14o4X9 3PzMBm2WdhK8f7efLv8WAEPwn1YXEW6csc 15Z45RFiDy4ocJkJagajLrKHZaSewLwLR1 While you're at it, it may be more rewarding to try to brute-force the Bitcoin Rich List. Good luck
As for your bet: My friend and I have a bet.
He says that because Bitcoin has been around so long now, it should be possible to Let him prove it It gives him the chance to convince himself how secure Bitcoin is. Yes, I completely agree, hence me putting up such a large sum as incentive. It's not a large sum. The Bitcoin Rich List proves that 100,000 BTC isn't enough to brute-force it either.
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He says that because Bitcoin has been around so long now, it should be possible to crowd source a private key for almost any specific public address as he reckons there will now be databases out there with trillions upon trillions of matched key pairs. Just show him this video: How secure is 256 bit security?However, this isn't the real security of a bitcoin address. A bitcoin address is an encoding of a 160-bit number (plus some extra things), which is calculated by hashing a 256-bit one. Therefore, a collision would only require about 2 159 searches. But, to be even more pedantic, you don't have to find a RIPEMD-160 collision to steal bitcoins you don't own (without threatening anyone!). The early bitcoin blocks have been paid in public key, meaning that if can you can solve the discrete logarithm problem, you could find those public keys' private keys. Given that the known algorithms that can solve ECDLP (BSGS, Pollard's rho etc.) require O(sqrt( n)) steps where n the order of G in secp256k1 ( n~=2^256), the security of a public key is about 128 bits. So, instead, give him this public key: 024b83426cf9bff257261d87f2f2858b51b2eea756c0123c7e05bc0a007425c9f2 Whose owner possesses : 1P5ZEDWTKTFGxQjZphgWPQUpe554WKDfHQ It's 2^128 times easier and the prize is over a million times greater than 0.1 BTC. (If we assume it's a prize )
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