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Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

Hello everyone.

I'm try to trading professional trading not possible to in this market condition. how safe my asset proper way?

I mean if we see "when is market condition bear" then i would be perfect call to buy top100 crypto. But anyone suggestion in this situation when we fall in bear market.

Be Tethered or in any other stable coin if you smell that the bear market is about to come but if it's too late then don't convert and just let it be on its form.
And you choose altcoins that you're going to buy, if somebody tells you to buy this coin then you don't have to follow them quickly, that's how you apply DYOR.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

Buying random coins from the top 100 list will not be effective, yes you understand the method properly but you also have to find the right coin not just any coin.

And there is no safe asset in the cryptospace,you have to take the risk to get the rewards.

If you're not ready to risk everything then just buy bitcoin when it at its red then wait for green days which may happen in short term or long term.

Quote from: sheenshane on May 10, 2022, 11:58:59 PM

Try to do these,

Hold your position or it's better to hold in a long term period
Diversify your portfolio
A chance to re-invest with a potential coin
The last option is what they called, "short-selling" during the market decline

IMO, the best thing and very safe option are to hold for a long-term position until the price will resist and back to the bullish trend.

Another option is to simply do nothing for the time being and wait until things improve, newbies without a doubt are nervous about buying right now as the last weeks have not been very good for bitcoin, and while the strategies that you give are without a doubt good ones they need someone with some experience to be able to perform them correctly.

So newbies could just wait out the bear market and only invest once they are completely sure a recovery is underway, they will not get into the market at the best price possible but at least the market conditions should be way better at the time they finally decide to invest in the market.

Quote from: Wexnident on May 11, 2022, 09:03:39 AM

Don't mind/panic much about it really, hold your position but if you really want to trade, then look up short selling since that's about the only thing you can do. Dips are something natural in the market, you just have to hold your position or re-invest in another coin temporarily. Though honestly, I'd just hold or think of it in the long term instead, I don't think it'd be worth panic sell in most (if not all) cases anyway, especially in a market like Bitcoin (and other coins really that weren't brought up by hype).

On a market condition like this then it cant really be avoided for you not to panic considering that its way too unpredictable in terms of price movement which is really that very
common on where it is really hard to sustain yourself on fixing on a particular analysis which you are hoping for it to be followed or to be precised.When you do see your
portfolio is really going down then you would really be having those thoughts on selling on loss because you are afraid that you would really be experiencing even more
lower or losses which is something a very common reaction.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

- just buy the dip but don't make a trade now - too risky putting into the situation and especially if you are just learning to trade
- choose the best coins - just look in the top 10, not in the top 100 as you just found shitcoins there.
- don't make use of stablecoins as for gateway, they are not safe anymore

The bear season isn't a good time to make a trade, maybe you can practice in a small amount but not in a thing you have to put everything on it. Yet, this rather is the time for accumulation.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

Lol! It's not really a good time for trading. It's a time of accumulation to be honest. Day trading un bearish market is really risky unless you use a mix of short and long call. So I would rather recommend you to accumulate more of your favorite cryptocurrency. That will help you in medium term when the market fires up!

Please remember the trend. ATH was 22k and ATL was 3k during previous cycle. Now the ATH is 69k and ATL seems to have strong suppor5 at 30k level. That's why I am saying to accumulate.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

It's totally depends on you that how you would like to trade, if you are a long term trader then you use in current dip situation and hold for long-term. Then if you are a day trader then you should trade on top notch coin I mean use btc ,bnb ,eth for day trading , you can also use bot for this .

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

I'm try to trading professional trading not possible to in this market condition. how safe my asset proper way?

You can trade in any market but in order to become a professional and successful trader, you must have to experience a lot, get loss a lot. Are you afford to lose first with trading?

Trading can not help most of traders richer. In opposite, investment can help most of investors get richer if they invest in good projects.

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I mean if we see "when is market condition bear" then i would be perfect call to buy top100 crypto. But anyone suggestion in this situation when we fall in bear market.

You can trade in any market but with different market, you must have different strategy for your trading. Don't trade opposite and against the market trend, you will get rekted and liquidated if you use leverage.

Quote from: Sterbens on May 20, 2022, 05:16:43 PM

The market gives you 2 options, namely when the market is bearish then the coins collected are more and when the market is bull then that is when you reap the rewards that have been accumulated during the bear market. This is a long-term concept and is still used by all traders who don't want to be complicated in terms of daily price movements. So if you say to start trading when the market has started to bearish, it's not a profitable potential to implement in short-term trades.

some traders can still earn even during this bearish season. just look at the up and down movement of btc within the 29-30k range. the movement is small but i am certain people are also taking this opportunity to trade and earn some profits. and yes, some people are continuously accumulating because sooner or later, the btc market will be out of 30k range. i don't think, we will stay this long. anyway, one can also look for other alts other than btc, but better keep your portfolio in the top alts, with good market application.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

I'm try to trading professional trading not possible to in this market condition. how safe my asset proper way?

Professional trading will not see when they are trading, both on a bearish and also bullish market. Every time will be possible and suitable for them for trading, with their own strategy and management. They know more about what to do during this market situation, considering based on analysis, and also managing the funds due to the high risks or low risks.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

I mean if we see "when is market condition bear" then i would be perfect call to buy top100 crypto. But anyone suggestion in this situation when we fall in bear market.

Actually, none knows exactly when the bearish market will be at the bottom. But, if we know that the bitcoin price keeps decreasing, we can do some things:
- Hold our assets
- Add portfolio with top coin only, or maybe only add with BTC by DCA system of trading.
- Never buy new coin or shitcoins
- Not all in, be smart on managing your funds, by diversifying them

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

Just consider the top 20 coins in this current situation as they have a higher chance to recover after this bear season. Of course, you can still choose to any of them but we are talking about the long recovery that might fall into these top 21-100. And possible, you can't wait until that time and you will sell them, this be the reason why many people suffer losses because of the wrong choice of coins.

As professional traders don't buy cheap coins, they consider those high gaining potential coins. And this only we can see among the top coins, not in the bottom.

I want to quickly align my thought with users who've identified that no one truly knows where the bottom is for those who think the best strategy during a bear is to buy the bottom. There's truly no such thing as bottom or top, except from hindsight. Trading is a highly speculative engagement. No one truly has a perfect timing for entry and exit. However, let me quickly suggest steps you can take during a bear market as your question demands:

1. Don't sell your asset if you're already in loss to buy into another asset. You can tether it and wait for an opportunity to buy more.
2. Practice DCA. That's if you still have cash you won't miss by the side and you feel the asset you're chasing has utility. Otherwise, let it go.
3. Stake the asset if it's stakable. That way you make passive income from it while waiting for the market to rebound.

Quote from: carlfebz2 on May 10, 2022, 09:43:15 PM

Decisions you could make on a bear market.

1. Hold your position (If you have bought on higher price)
2. Buy on the dip (This is where people boggled up their minds in regarding with bottom price)
3. DCA
4. Dont care nor make yourself stressed on this particular times.

Each decision would be made will be entirely be depending on someone because not all would really be
ending up on the same results whenever they do follow someone.It all matters into your own
decision and perception on things.

In a bearish season like now, hodling will always be the best option, trading will only be successful when the market has slowly return being stable again. But for now, don't stress yourself OP, accumulate more potential coins if you want while we can make the best buy, because once the market has return to normal, then all these coins will come up increasing their value again. You can hardly do trading this time, but you can prepare yourself by buying those promising coins you wish to trade in the future.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

When bear market comes then its better not to mind off on selling your assets,even if we do talk about cutting losses then i dont really consider such step because recovery would really be always
next in line which means that if you do cut loss then its materialized loss unlike when you are just simply holding.

Some captions or topics are confusing. When I saw the caption in Op, I was happy that I'm gonna learn new things. But I was somewhat disappointed that it was a question and not a solution. But when I started reading replies and started seeing solutions, I smiled and say to myself, this is the power of bitcointalk.

To add to the leading voices above, when you are caught up in bear, many things happen and what determines your actions is the status you wear caught up with.
Were you caught up by the market? Hodl and it will recover(this advice is strictly for btc).
Were you not caught up by the bear, it is time to buy.
You were caught up and still have money to invest or you are skeptical about the next market movement, do DCA.

Quote from: Fatunad on May 23, 2022, 08:59:26 PM

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

Recovery can only happen on good projects so if you are holding shitcoins, then it will be hard for them to rise and that could result to a more losses for you. The best thing to do during bear market is to reassess your assets, know what’t coins/tokens have the potential to rise again and let go of those shitcoins. Your decision making during this time of bear trend is very important, I believe learning is the best way to survive and this could be your best weapon during bear market.

Quote from: palle11 on May 20, 2022, 06:49:51 AM

Trading can be done at anything but for hodlers, it is really time to acquire more coins. As for the hodling it is playing out like the last halving in 4/5 years ago, I think we have seen a bottom that is very close to turn things around. We have seen $40k broken and $35k too now we are in the area of $30k, all it needs is to have strong hands buying in again after taking there profit.

The genesis of trading is to catch the actual time you enter market structure and make profit, the process of getting profit it's what you have in mind or target. As instant, now the price of bitcoins is going down below thirty thousand (30k) just exactly at twenty nine thousand plus (+29k) if you buy at this point and hold for long term, definitely you are assuring yourself a profit if we resumes bullish market. And note it happens to all coins that have to good potential for long holding.

Quote from: carlfebz2 on May 10, 2022, 09:43:15 PM

There is another option which is to short the market and hope for the price to keep going down, however in my experience this is not really a good option to take, even if we know there are bear markets from time to time we also know that the price of bitcoin has the tendency to go up as well, so if you try to go short then you are going to suffer many small losses which are only gained back if you happen to short the market when the bear market finally appears, something difficult to do when you lose so many trades in a row.

Quote from: crzy on May 23, 2022, 09:25:30 PM

I think an even better option would be simply to not invest or to trade shitcoins, the reason for this is that by investing in them you are opening the door to subsequent mistakes as many people after witnessing a big drop are going to be very scared, and while some will sell their shitcoins out of a reflex some people will decide to hold them, losing even more money in the process.

And as such a very easy way to avoid a fate like that is by simply avoiding shitcoins from the beginning, that way you reduce the chances of making an irreparable mistake to your account by a significant level.

Quote from: Taskford on May 25, 2022, 09:20:53 PM

Trade depends on the plan what you set on your capital because if you just keep following other words without having an idea on how to sustain your trades then this will never work on you, so best for now to pick up the idea what you can read here and execute proper planning since the suggestion of the other users is good already and its up to you on how you can execute it.

Real traders can win big during bear market, and that is because of their skills on analyzing the situation and I agree that you should not listen to anyone and focus on your goal and strategy. If you want to be more safe then hold good coins but if you want to have some profit in trading, learn this on your own and the right way, you can still win on downtrend with your proper execution.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

the safest assets are in the best coins, if the security level is calculated, investing in cryptocurrency in my opinion is more risky than investing in other assets, such as property for example, because it has high fluctuations. it will be even safer to invest in cryptocurrencies, if we have knowledge about it, so we don't just rely on luck in our investments. we have to know when to buy and when to take it off, and be able to use stable coins for a temporary stopover

Quote from: horrifiedx1 on May 26, 2022, 01:41:16 PM

the safest assets are in the best coins, if the security level is calculated, investing in cryptocurrency in my opinion is more risky than investing in other assets, such as property for example, because it has high fluctuations. it will be even safer to invest in cryptocurrencies, if we have knowledge about it, so we don't just rely on luck in our investments. we have to know when to buy and when to take it off, and be able to use stable coins for a temporary stopover

You just gave the wrong explanation. First, you say that the safest asset is in coins, but investing in cryptocurrencies is very risky. Then reiterate the sentence "t will be even safer to invest in cryptocurrencies". Let me get it straight, coins are part of cryptocurrencies when you invest in cryptocurrencies it means you choose one of the coins.

So what do you really want to say?

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

Many of us think that if the price of assets has gone down the we have loss. But this is not true cause after bearish situation if you hold the asset you can coverup you loss and also can get profit . So I will say don't take so much panic just hodl and get profit . And the best asset to hold is bitcoin so I would suggest you to hold BTC in this situation

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

To be honest, only professional trading is possible in this market condition, in a bull market even a donkey can make money for you by buying just anything blindly, real test of professionals is in this sort of sideways market only. But if you are a newbie best thing to do in this market is either keep quiet. Don't sell anything off just wait for the right time to do so secondly if you have not bought anything so far just start doing DCA of every coin you think is good. Start buying at the right points and buy even more when it falls, this way you might end up being profitable in the next bull run.

Quote from: |MINER| on May 26, 2022, 07:02:24 PM

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

People should realize that on which you won't be losing something if you don't sell or panicking on having cut loss because you would eventually able to recover it out on the right time on where the market do make out some recovery or bullish movement which is something inevitable that's why it's better to stick into that basic although it won't be that simple
But doesn't mean that it can't be done by anyone.

A prolonged bear market puts stress on a traders mind because they either run out of cash at hand to buy the asset or have to hold through it.It might help to observe before buying again. So don't go blindly for the top 100 coins. There are at least 90shitcoins there. Buy bitcoin and the top5 altcoins, not beyond that.

Try to keep focus in spot trading as a beginner. Futures and leverage are for the veterans not newbies because they are a gamble.

In such disturbed times it works to take a break from the market and do something that you always wanted to do. It might help your outlook and by the time you return, directions may have changed.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

There is hardly anything to get off this post. Like I've read over and over again just to ensure i grasps what the OP is trying to say and somehow OP's English composure made less and less meaning. It just comes in and break. Probably its due to the fact that you @OP isn't from an English speaking country but to that effect, you could use the services of a translator and by that, I don't mean Google translator as I suspect that to be the case here. Hire an individual that could help if need be and your messages would come out better. Am not even sure you could read the replies that have come forth to address your issue. Perhaps you would also translate and it won't be any less cranky. Anyway, your welcome to try!

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

I can really understand your pain.
But guess what’s important now is to show patience.
If you have bought some coins in comparatively higher price, then just hang on for a bit and wait.
If you haven’t bought any coins , then this is the perfect time to buy and hold.
Currently the market condition is not good and we all agree that, so wait for market to recover.
I am sure you will make good profits in the end.

Quote from: Ararbermas on May 23, 2022, 01:16:52 PM

Analyze the market well and see what opportunity you can get from it, because you know even we are in the bear market and you make shorting it still not safe as its still very so volatile. And yes picking up on top altcoins is a good idea, but be aware that not all are on red because some alts is making progress despite of the situation. That's why analyze the market very carefully and dont rush to prevent risky situation.

Volatility is so quick these days that even if you find the right movement, if it moves the other direction a bit you could lose it all. Like you said something will go from 100 to 90, and it could go from 100 to 90, but meanwhile it could go from 100 to 102 to 90, and that will liquidate you and you will lose money.

Same goes for going up as well, like instead of 100 to 110, it could go 100 to 98 to 110, and even though you should make money, you end up getting liquidated because of it. This is 100% more dangerous if you are doing with high leverages. These days there are places that started to offer 200x leverage, which is just insane, even 50 bucks movement could liquidate you and it's too risky.

Quote from: Issa56 on May 27, 2022, 10:09:03 PM

The entire crypto market is down currently and most coins are down, during a bear market the best thing to do is hold your coins don't sell at lost, incase if you are having extral funds you can still bag more coins and wait for the bull run. Nobody should panic and sell any coin during the bear market because it will definitely bounce back. Whenever you are buying any coin just make sure you always avoid shit coins because most shit coins don't really survive the bear market. Always make sure you buy a good coin and wait for the bull run.

You mean like the quote of "hodler is winner"? I mean, sure, if the coins that you're holding bounced back, but the fact that it rarely happen is quite saddening.
Sometimes, there's a time when you just have to cut lose some of your investment, if you see any good opportunity to re-entry or buy the dip then that's good. But that's often hard to tell. I'm not saying that you cannot hodl your bags. But it's just a way a minimize your loses.

Quote from: so98nn on May 28, 2022, 08:51:34 AM

Better wait for market to get stable before one can invest and trade again. I am always telling my circle to hold their positions because selling in bearish trend is loss anyways. With the time assets get devalued, you need to achieve double profits to break even the sold positions and make profits on the current bought positions. That’s way tricky so the simplest thing is not to sell, go silent on all the positions. If you have money then in fact buy more stronger assets. That’s how you survive in the bear trend.

Without a doubt trading right now does not seem like the best idea as the market is not presenting positive movements and it is incapable to break the resistance level at 30k, and until that is the case then there is not going to be a lot of profits to be had, so the best decision at the moment is to simply wait until things improve, now at least when it comes to bitcoin and other solid altcoins we know that things will eventually improve, which is a great advantage when we compare them with the rest of altcoins in which this is not true as they may never recover.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

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I mean if we see "when is market condition bear" then i would be perfect call to buy top100 crypto. But anyone suggestion in this situation when we fall in bear market.

Remember that, not all cheap in this current condition of the market is worth buying because even how dip the market will be, you cannot guarantee that it is already the dip.
I suggest you go higher (top market cap), I don't trust the top 100, you can try the top 5- top 10 if you want to more safe but expect that the ROI is still low if ever we will become stable or go back to all-time-high.

Quote from: sklopan on May 29, 2022, 11:10:43 AM

Being prepared for any situation in the market is almost impossible. It should be understood that you can only be ready in theory, but in practice it is not easy to get such a result.

Having the right mindset would set you ready for the possibilities. If you know how the market works then you'll know that the volatility of cryptocurrency could lead the market to a bearish or bullish situation. That's actually the risk of crypto investment. As for me, the best thing to do during this market situation is to accumulate good coins specifically the well-established ones such as Bitcoin and Ethereum.

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Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

I'm try to trading professional trading

No, your trading is regular retail trading, professional traders are mostly market makers and they don't trade with their own money.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

I mean if we see "when is market condition bear" then i would be perfect call to buy top100 crypto. But anyone suggestion in this situation when we fall in bear market.

As far as buying in a bear market is concerned, this is a good strategy and you are on the right track. But how to guess where the bottom of such a market and the ideal option for shopping? Do not try to buy everything at one price and at one time, in 99% of cases you will not guess with the bottom and when you buy an asset, it will fall even deeper. This is normal. Use the stepwise method of breaking down orders to buy assets. For example, you can buy bitcoin now at 29,000, if it falls to 25,000, then you can buy another part, and so on. This is a workable option and it is always more effective than trying to wait for a bitcoin, for example, at 10,000 and buy there all at once for all the money.

The same applies to altcoins, and not only altcoins from the top 100, I would not dwell on this particular group, since most of these projects have already made their x's a long time ago, there are promising projects in both the top 200 and top 500 , who have not yet fully realized themselves and are now at the bottom, this can also be a good investment.

This is very good advice, which is why in my case I have no idea what can happen in the market, the truth is that, I have never had so much uncertainty, it is for this reason that I am not in the market right now, because entering to do gambling either, so for those who want to buy it is a great advice, buy in a granada way so as not to have the feeling of losing in the face of any eventuality that occurs.

For those who have a way to buy BTC, it is the best, of course, timing is something that the person who wants to invest in BTC decides, although I think that for those who want to buy, it is the best time because knowing that their ATH will be higher than the last is reason enough to do so.

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Quote from: sklopan on May 29, 2022, 11:10:43 AM

Being prepared for any situation in the market is almost impossible. It should be understood that you can only be ready in theory, but in practice it is not easy to get such a result.

Everyone has a different view but it never hurts to try it firsthand. with a note make sure that you use the money you can afford to lose. no problem if you start with small money.
As for anything else, Bitcoin and Ethereum are good choices. But in a market situation like this there's not much I can do other than hold it in until the market situation improves. once in a while I add more bitcoins when I have money.

Quote from: so98nn on May 28, 2022, 08:51:34 AM

Well said, even I avoid selling assets during bear runs because it's a direct loss. What I do sell during such a bear market is the small amount of meme coins I am holding as a risky investment because when the market drops these meme coins have almost no hope and I am well aware of that. At the same time I look out for decent ones like Bitcoin, Solana, Eth and if their price has dropped too much then I buy some of them with the amount collected by selling the meme coins.

Create your own strategies but basics never change. if you sell during a bull run, you will mot likely profit no matter what and the vice versa holds true for bear runs.

looking at the current price, looking at the market itself, looking at so many negative things that are happening, i would say you need to wait until the price is above $32000 and then you would buy but keeping a stop-loss at $32000, why am i saying this? because the price is currently at $29000, but if it drops below $27000 then it will go to $22000 to $24000 and if it drops below $22000 we will see a big drop down to as low as $14000, $10000 and less than $10000. So think: would you be willing to buy at $29000 and then see the price at $10,000 and still you wouldn't be sad? or a better option would be to watch the market and buy above $32000 because with that the price would go up to $34000, $37000 and $39000 and could even be above $40,000 or more

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Quote from: sklopan on May 29, 2022, 11:10:43 AM

Being prepared for any situation in the market is almost impossible. It should be understood that you can only be ready in theory, but in practice it is not easy to get such a result.

That's one of the best ways to deal with the current market situation, which is currently experiencing a downturn. In addition to buying coins, the option to hold must also be implemented as a form of securing coins that will have the opportunity to face an increase in market prices.

Apart from Bitcoin and Ethereum, Binance is also a good choice of coins to buy in a situation like this.
To some extent, the market will recover, it's just a matter of time.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

Keep accumulating over the long term by buying at dips. Always keep spare cash to buy the dip just in case one occurs.
Analyze the market and look for opportunities when you can take out the profits.
With those profits, keep buying when the market goes in a down trend. Patience is the key.
You will feel many times to sell as soon as you see some profits but hold you way until the market goes in opposite direction on bigger timeframes.

Quote from: AicecreaME on May 27, 2022, 06:01:33 AM

If you're trading in futures, don't contradict the market, if you're in stock trading, don't panic, don't listen to anyone who suggest to sell your coins before it's too late without even proper explanation or evidence. Don't be afraid to hold your coins if you know it has potential to skyrocket again in the long run. Sell your coins if you don't have any choice left because you need money for your everyday needs.

That's actually one of the best advice I have heard going around today. I will try and elaborate a bit for everyone to understand.

If you are trading on futures, you are going to win or lose quickly and hence you must never go against the current market trend because a 10-20% change can liquidate all your funds considering you are trading at 10-20x leverage.

If you are doing normal trading where you buy a coin based on the use-cases and development value, then you must not panic just because others are talking bullshit about the coin without any facts.

Quote from: sklopan on May 30, 2022, 07:09:44 PM

I am almost sure that it is extremely difficult to be prepared for the situation in the market. If only because of the rather high dynamism of the market.

Thats common sense,, then what you should gonna do? You cant just say that its difficult and without having any further actions because if you do make yourself that idle
or not really making out steps then you would really be just missing out lots of opportunities for you to make money thats why you should really be that mindful
on what are the things that you should gonna do or simply make out some plans yet this market is totally unpredictable or something you cant
really able to deal with it easily but its not impossible for someone to be exaggerating that much.

Quote from: pawanjain on May 30, 2022, 02:21:54 PM

Keep accumulating over the long term by buying at dips. Always keep spare cash to buy the dip just in case one occurs.

Usually we run out of money to buy any more during a prolonged bear market. This ends up having a bad effect of the traders. The solution is to stop trading for a while and just observe the market for the return of the bull market. Spare cash remains spare only for a short period. ;D

Currently the prices seem to be inching towards 32k which means the bulls are returning to buy or some big players have bought bitcoin. I am expecting a bigger dip to happen in case some other player sells at this point or the trend to continue. So this might end up being the fresh start from this bear cycle.

Cost averaging is good, but buying at every dip should be done with caution so as to not end up spending too much. Lower than normal prices may arrive, but you have to patient.

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Quote from: pawanjain on May 30, 2022, 02:21:54 PM

Keep accumulating over the long term by buying at dips. Always keep spare cash to buy the dip just in case one occurs.

To be honest, such a decision is made extremely rarely, alas. Often traders think that in such a case the best solution is to work even harder. Well, the outcome is quite easy to predict.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

I bought and invested about 20 to 30 coins. But the market has moved to a position where as soon as I open my wallet I see that I have lost a lot of money.At the moment I can't sell any coins on my own. Because I have a lot of losses in all of them.In this situation I am living my life very badly. I can't sell anything in thousands of such situations.

Quote from: topman21 on May 31, 2022, 07:43:01 PM

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

Quantity doesnt matter, it should really be on quality of such project if you are really projecting for long term.I do have some coins in the wallet but most of them are top ranking coins including bitcoin.
Yes, most of them are expensive but doesnt mean that you cant buy on parts or fractions but well there are people who are really that fan on buying up low cap coins or low ranking
for them to utilize the cheap price and whenever it do make out some significant rise then thats an easy money for them thats why it do really matter with self preference.

Quote from: sklopan on May 31, 2022, 05:59:15 PM

Quote from: TheUltraElite on May 31, 2022, 04:06:04 PM

To be honest, such a decision is made extremely rarely, alas. Often traders think that in such a case the best solution is to work even harder. Well, the outcome is quite easy to predict.

What happens is a lot of people see themselves as doers, so when they face a problem they immediately think of what to do in order to solve it, forgetting there are circumstances in which the very best thing you can do is to do absolutely nothing.

It may seem counter-intuitive to some but it is the truth, and the bear markets are the perfect example of this, many traders keep trading their coins back and forth in an attempt to make some money even during a downtrend, and as you may guess they lose a lot of money when they do that, however if they had chosen to simply stay away from the market and wait they would had a better performance by doing absolutely nothing.

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Quote from: sklopan on May 31, 2022, 05:59:15 PM

Quote from: TheUltraElite on May 31, 2022, 04:06:04 PM

To be honest, such a decision is made extremely rarely, alas. Often traders think that in such a case the best solution is to work even harder. Well, the outcome is quite easy to predict.

maybe some have urgent financial needs, hence, they are trying to make something out of the situation. however, as you said, some may really incur losses instead of gains. if you are not in a hurry to get back your funds, it is indeed better to wait once the market recovers. because you will only be stressed by trading back and forth, and most of the time, you will only gain headache rather than profits.

Quote from: topman21 on May 31, 2022, 07:43:01 PM

This is a typical mistake of a beginner who did not sell at high and now does not want to sell at a lower price in order to fix a loss. I think that every trader has found himself in such a situation. This problem is solved only in two ways: either you continue to hold the coins, hoping that the price will return to the previous one, or you sell if you think that the market is in a bearish trend.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

If you believe in your asset in the long run you don't need to risk your asset with trading, just hold and add up whenever you can! That can be very profitable if you choose the right coins to accumulate!

People who sold in the bullish period are waiting for the bear trend to buy again! We all use USDT for those purposes, to keep our capital safe when the prices are dropping, so I guess by "safe my asset proper way" you mean something like that! Simply buy USDT and wait for the perfect buying opportunity! Which is the bottom of course, but nobody knows where it is exactly!

In crypto, there's always some profit with trading, if you wait long enough for some coins to rise/drop so you can sell/buy! Fluctuations are simply present all the time! Will you catch those changes and hit some profit, or you will lose trying depends on many factors!

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Quote from: topman21 on May 31, 2022, 07:43:01 PM

Those are the only options that he has, however when I read the post he mentions that he has invested in 20 to 30 different coins, which tells me that most likely he has invested mostly on shitcoins, and if this is the case then he needs to sell now as it is incredibly unlikely the majority of those coins is ever going to recover, as even if the concept was good and there were honest developers behind the projects, very few of those coins will survive and make it to the next bull market.

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Quote from: topman21 on May 31, 2022, 07:43:01 PM

Doesnt really need to have lots in your portfolio because quantity would be useless if it doesnt really have that quality of those projects/coin that you are investing on thats why its a
bit useless of doing so because even if you do have hundreds but still not really that good for you to hold for long term because it doesnt really have that kind of potential and relevance
for long runs which means that it would be somewhat useless or pointless on doing such action. Invest on projects which you do seem that it would be good and not just
hurrying yourself on accumulating lots.

Quote from: tvplus006 on June 01, 2022, 01:48:09 PM

Quote from: topman21 on May 31, 2022, 07:43:01 PM

Hodling those coins depends on the utility they have, if they don't have good use you can be sure that hodling them longer will be as good as no value at the end. Sometimes it is better to let go by selling off a coin that has dropped so much that coming back will be difficult. We can count our loses and make a restart instead of hodling on for the long and not make further progress.

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Quote from: topman21 on May 31, 2022, 07:43:01 PM

The current bear market makes all coins experience a drastic decline, it gives us the opportunity to buy the coins we want at low prices.
And also something positive if we decide to invest in several coins and not just invest in one coin. But it's not a good thing if we invest
too many coins, especially since most of the coins we have are shitcoins, it will only make us lose money faster. Because shitcoins are often
difficult to recover and even some shitcoins become scams because they are abandoned by the development team. The best thing is that
we invest in some altcoins that have potential and it would be better to invest in top coins. Maybe 3-5 coins is enough for me, so for now I only
invest in Bitcoin, Ethereum and BNB. And I am quite satisfied with my choice of coins, because based on the results of my analysis the three coins
can provide large profits if I hold long-term.

Quote from: livingfree on June 01, 2022, 10:42:06 PM

IMHO.

Trade like the typical holder.

You don't have to be that hyperactive during the bear market and you just have to buy those crypto that you think are good for holding for months or years.

As the bear market continues, there's a sense for being passive at this time and it'll probably save you a lot of time and stress because you're just doing what a holder does.

Scalping will do better you know in this bear market but if the trader isn't experienced enough yet then it's best to just continue to hodl and invest of what coin(s) they think could possibly make profit in the future or in the long run. It's just that trading is not for everyone but you can try though since there's nothing wrong in trying and trying will tell you what you could do or not instead of just waiting in vain.

So trade like trying but don't trade like you want to gain big profit but instead trade like you are learning. Eventually you will get there on where you want to be.

Quote from: livingfree on June 01, 2022, 10:42:06 PM

That is what ends up getting so many traders in trouble, they trade a lot during the bull market since there are so many opportunities that they get used to this frenetic pace to the point they later find very difficult for them to adjust to the slower pace the bear market requires, so they get desperate by the lack of profits and then they try to force their trades in their desire to make more money, but since there are nowhere near the same opportunities during a bear market than during a bull market they begin to lose money even faster, which generates in those traders a desire to trade even more, creating a loop which makes them to lose money.

Quote from: Oceat on June 01, 2022, 11:58:05 PM

I don't advise that especially for the newbies but yeah, if you've been long in the market and got enough experience to scalp then it's best for you. You can take advantage of the day if it's down or up and then you do your thing like trading in futures or margin.

Quote from: South Park on June 02, 2022, 02:55:50 AM

Yeah, they feel that there's a need to fulfill those orders and be like those great traders out there. Honestly, they just have to be wise and smart without doing that much effort and that's why I've said, trade like a holder.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

in trading there's a type of strategy that we called shorting and it's goof for such situation (bear market),But it required skills coz you will trade with leverage and its very risky, that you must have risk management in order to prevent massive losses.

However if you don't have such skills, then better to wait for the right time to buy at the dip to prevent risky situation coz even you trade top coins but you don't know how to shorting for sure it will be a nightmare afterwards.. So better to wait and be patient until the market turns into bullish again.

Quote from: lablab03 on June 02, 2022, 10:47:09 AM

Shorting means selling at the current running price and then buying back at a lower price, here it is actually same as buy low sell high just the order is reversed. Shorting needs to be correctly timed otherwise if the market turns around in the middle of the two trades, you will end up in a loss and a bad position.

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However if you don't have such skills, then better to wait for the right time to buy at the dip to prevent risky situation coz even you trade top coins but you don't know how to shorting for sure it will be a nightmare afterwards.. So better to wait and be patient until the market turns into bullish again.

It is more of timing than skills. Shorting should ideally be done right at the beginning of the bear crash. Most traders miss this point and usually get alerted by the time a few hours have passed. Because the effect of a large market movement is rapid in this market, therefore shorting becomes even more risky.

Either way with a calm mindset, it can be made to profit.

Quote from: pawanjain on May 30, 2022, 02:21:54 PM

Accumulating is something everyone should do, but unfortunately not enough people do it. When you see bitcoin go down 50%, that is exactly the time you should buy as much as you can. That means if we end up with something then we are going to end up with a good return, but if we just keep on waiting or try to trade during these markets then we could very well end up with a loss, or at least miss out on a profit. That's my approach, I accumulate as much as I can, to be fair I do not have near the levels of bitcoin I would love to own, but that's fine, at least I am trying to accumulate more, and I know that this will return to be something awesome for me one day.

Quote from: tvplus006 on June 01, 2022, 01:48:09 PM

Quote from: topman21 on May 31, 2022, 07:43:01 PM

I think this should be about investors and not traders, but I bought Luna recently before the crash at $87 but I just had in mind to make few profit that day and close the buy/long position that I open, but it just started like that, I was discouraged to sell because it was so much volatile and and the price went down further until it crashed. If talking about traders, they should be able to cut loss or use stop loss for cases of extreme volatility because it can result to more loses than expected and can result to liquidation.

About holding, the coin I can advice anyone to hold for long that I still believe will reach ATH is bitcoin, many altcoins are also just shit coins that their price will decrease further to the extent it will not increase back to the price someone bought the coin.

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Quote from: pawanjain on May 30, 2022, 02:21:54 PM

Accumulation is much more preferable because having cheap prices doesnt really come often or simply treat up these drops to be some bargain in relation to the price of the coins as of today.

We cant be sure if we would see these numbers again and presuming out that reversal is on next on line which its somewhat anticipated that we would really able to place ourselves into the possible bottom.

Cant really be precisely predicted but we wont really be seeing any outcomes or results if you do let yourself just sitting around and missing out or doesnt really make some action.

Quote from: sklopan on June 02, 2022, 05:10:52 PM

Of course, you can try to work on a demo account so that you have experience in certain situations. When I started working with a broker from AMarkets, I did it this way.

I know you're trying to help but go and ask every crypto trader they will tell you that demo trading of cryptocurrency is totally different from real trading. Besides, this current market is not good for newbie traders because well-experienced traders easily make lost during this season.
The best bet is for the OP to go for the buying low and selling a high version of crypto trading or going for arbitrage trading until she gains a full understanding of the market. Besides, I can see some altcoins that are recent good for arbitrage trading but they still require some market understanding.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on June 02, 2022, 07:47:02 PM

...Cant really be precisely predicted but we wont really be seeing any outcomes or results if you do let yourself just sitting around and missing out or doesnt really make some action.

It is better to lose a profit than to lose your deposit. And if you do not see a reversal pattern in which the chances of success are higher, then it is better to wait with the opening of an order. You should not try to open an order just so that you have an open position.

This is what is called chasing the market. If a trader can't wait for another trade and FOMO they may likely jump into another losing market and continuously they lose all deposit. This is the mistake that newbies do often times that make them complain alot. Opening more than one or two trades at same time will not give enough attention and those open positions may be pulling down the deposit especially if it is on high leverage.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

Really hard to make predictions in the current market environment. Many people call it a bear market right now, but to me it seems more like a sideways trend. One day the bitcoin market drops 5%, next day we see a rise of 5% again. There is a lot of volatility in the market. Usually volatility is a good thing for traders because the spread is higher and there are more opportunities to make a profit. But when there is no clear trend to trade on it becomes very risky. For a professional trader these risks might be manageable, for the average trader I would recommend to take a step back. Better to hold on to your coins and sit this one out. When it comes to trading we don't need to react on every trend. Crypto currencies move in cycle, so even if we missed one bear of bull Market we don't lose. There is always a new opportunity around the corner.

Quote from: tvplus006 on June 01, 2022, 01:48:09 PM

Quote from: topman21 on May 31, 2022, 07:43:01 PM

Continue to hold the coins, always continue to hold the coins if you want to fix that. There are many people who will go with the second route, but they will end up losing most of the time, that is a thing that is unsure and not known path and you may not come out on top with that.

However, if you hold it long enough then you will always profit, of course this works for bitcoin and eth and other strong projects like that, doesn't mean it won't work for high ones though. Just hold them, hold them a year, hold them 2-3 years if you have to, hold them and you will make a profit for sure without a doubt. That is why I believe that first route will be the path to profit for everyone.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on June 01, 2022, 10:32:24 PM

The current bear market makes all coins experience a drastic decline, it gives us the opportunity to buy the coins we want at low prices...

The bear market gives a good opportunity to buy the coin you are interested in at the lowest price. But not everyone has such an opportunity, but only those who have sold their coins at high and now have stablecoins to buy. The rest of the traders have turned into investors who will have to hold their coins until their price recovers.

What you say is absolutely true, not everyone has the opportunity to buy coins at cheap prices today. Because there are people who are less fortunate
to buy coins at high prices, and they are confident in the future of the coins they buy, so there is no other choice but to hold the coin they have until
the price recovers. But if they still have extra money to buy more coins, there's nothing wrong with them buying more coins that they bought before.
Because by collecting as many coins as we consider potential and have a bright future, will give us the opportunity to make a much bigger profit when
the market recovers. So sometimes we really have to be willing to take risks if we want to get rich from investing.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

I'm try to trading professional trading not possible to in this market condition. how safe my asset proper way?

I mean if we see "when is market condition bear" then i would be perfect call to buy top100 crypto. But anyone suggestion in this situation when we fall in bear market.

You want to trade in a professional way? Wow but first ask yourself if you are already in that level. If you are not newbie anymore and you think you have been trading for many years then yes it is possible. If you are a professional, you can always make a way to trade and make some profit no matter what is the condition of the market. The safety of your asset will depend on you.

If you are nervous and not confident to trade then don't do it but you better hodl for a while till the market is more clearer or more predictable. As of now the market is still in bear but buying the top 100 coins can be too much already if you are trading and I think not all of them can perform well. Why not lessen it and make your picks from top 20 to top 10 only?

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Quote from: Taskford on May 25, 2022, 09:20:53 PM

You are right, although in many threads I have said that I have no idea what can happen in the market, it is not good to enter and gamble, because for that it is better to enter a casino and enjoy, for me I see trading as the way to make money little by little, that is, I see it as a business that even if it is very little if it is profit because over time it will become something very big, it is for this reason that I admire the merchants today who manage to decipher the movements of the market despite the active fundamentals out there.

Quote from: TheUltraElite on June 02, 2022, 02:32:39 PM

That shorting of "assume I have it right now without me having it, and I will pay for it later" is the root of all the problems in the crypto world. I mean that makes it profitable to drop the price of bitcoin and people think that it is somehow okay.

I find it the root of all our problems, there are so many rich people see the price going up too much and start to sell it and short it at the same time and make a ton of profit and that is not an easy thing to overcome when you are going against organized whales, hence we keep on being worse than we should be, all because they believe that they could make a huge profit by shorting, if there was no shorting available, we wouldn't drop like this, we would drop, but not like this.

Quote from: tygeade on June 06, 2022, 08:35:20 PM

I am also not a fan of shorting. But it can be done by those willing to take the risk. A complete risk free building of portfolio is possible and hence shorting should be done carefully knowing the risks and not as a sudden decision. Most of the time it is a sudden decision indeed because it happens during a market crash not on a stagnant or rising market.

Also the notion taking loans for trades and what shorting looks like is a cause of debts and endless cycles of despair. These can be completely avoided but difficult to stop if stuck in.

Hence I never recommend shorting to newbies but only experienced traders. I myself never actually do it.

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 06, 2022, 03:47:10 AM

we can't really underestimate the market and so trading.
I haven't found other way to make a good trade other than trusting yourself in doing a decision. This is somewhat hard to acquire, not everyone or the majority has been too confident and that was because we are also not sure about the market trend. It is sometimes I think that trading is also needs luck, kinda be like gambling. What is differs from this to real gambling is because trading needs knowledge and skill, most especially market analysis.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

Currently the market is range bound between $29k to $32k and is consolidating.
So if you want you can trade in the same range to accumulate small profits.
Also, even if the market is going bearish you can still trade and earn profits by shorting the coins.
You can do futures and set it to x1 leverage which is just the same as spot trading and this will allow you to short and make profits.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

When the market is bearish, trading will be hardly profitable except for expert traders as they still find ways to be profitable despite of the market condition. However, for most of us that find it hard to manage the risk in trading during this bearish market, it's best to just buy and hold. And wait for the market to be stable again before you decide to trade. Let's be aware that this is not the right time to trade, but the best time to buy and hold and accumulate more potential coins that we can trade later on with bigger profits.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

You can't expect to make good profits from trading these days as we are still facing some uncertainties and not even sure if the market will recover quickly right after this bearish market. For now, it's best to accumulate more bitcoin first since its currently priced around $28k and even do DCA if you don't want to miss its bottom price. You can do well in trading if only bitcoin starts to surge and impacted the whole crypto market, particularly when bull run hits the market.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on June 11, 2022, 06:21:32 AM

Trading in this market situation is very risky.

How is trading in this present market risky? The market is not volatile, Bitcoin has been between $28000 and $32000 for several weeks now, the bear and bull traders are all favored and making profit if they know how to trade profitably. The market is favourable, the most dangerous time in trading is highly volatile market, if gone against someone's position opened.

Yes indeed the price of Bitcoin can be said to still move there between $28k to $32k,
when it comes to professional traders of course they know what to do to make a profit when this is a bear market,
regardless I think everyone is waiting for the bull market and hope it will come soon

Quote from: tygeade on June 06, 2022, 08:35:20 PM

Quote from: TheUltraElite on June 02, 2022, 02:32:39 PM

If, in fact, when the BTC falls in price there are many people who win, apart from the whales who do it when they enter the market with Short, which I don't know if you remember in 2018 when everyone expected a good bullish movement, what he did was drop in price quite a bit, and it was when it was determined that BTC investors began to enter the market but in an intelligent way, which is through the Shorts, since when a millionaire or whale enters to buy he always does so very cheaply , the rich never buy expensive, they sell expensive, but they buy cheap, at that moment those who entered in short and apaancados won a lot.

Quote from: newdevices on June 12, 2022, 04:02:40 PM

the price of Bitcoin can be said to still move there between $28k to $32k,
when it comes to professional traders of course they know what to do to make a profit when this is a bear market,
regardless I think everyone is waiting for the bull market and hope it will come soon

The thing about this Bitcoin going up to $32k is that, if anything or if at any time, the price kicks up to that level, it automatically means that the bear market is over and the bull kicked in. What surprises me the most is that traders tend to love the bull season more than the bear, hence limiting themselves from seeing numerous opportunities they could possibly get from trading bear markets.

Anyways, making use of the two market situations should be accredited only to pro traders who have understood the market and have been in it for a long time.

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Quote from: newdevices on June 12, 2022, 04:02:40 PM

The thing about this Bitcoin going up to $32k is that, if anything or if at any time, the price kicks up to that level, it automatically means that the bear market is over and the bull kicked in. What surprises me the most is that traders tend to love the bull season more than the bear, hence limiting themselves from seeing numerous opportunities they could get from trading bear markets.

Anyways, making use of the two market situations should be accredited only to pro traders who have understood the market and have been in it for a long time.

Pro traders already know how to take advantage of every market situation. They already know how to deal with the market and grab every opportunity that it offers even during the bear season. While others are doubting, smart traders are filling their baskets with potential coins and reap their profit when the prices of coins get back to normal. If we love the bullish season, we should also know how to embrace the bearish season.

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Quote from: doomloop on July 01, 2022, 10:46:43 AM

Quote from: newdevices on June 12, 2022, 04:02:40 PM

The thing about this Bitcoin going up to $32k is that, if anything or if at any time, the price kicks up to that level, it automatically means that the bear market is over and the bull kicked in. What surprises me the most is that traders tend to love the bull season more than the bear, hence limiting themselves from seeing numerous opportunities they could get from trading bear markets.

Anyways, making use of the two market situations should be accredited only to pro traders who have understood the market and have been in it for a long time.

You wont really call yourself a pro if you cant really able to handle different market conditions thats why whether its a bull or bearish run then it would really be significantly you do make out adjustments.

Trading on your own will really be basing on your own path to take and we know that it do really differs on each person and this is where success chance do vary considering that there
are lots of factors that could really affect your profiting chance or success trades.

Dont make yourself in a rush on handling everything.Act according to your knowledge and try to sustain as much as you could.

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Quote from: newdevices on June 12, 2022, 04:02:40 PM

The thing about this Bitcoin going up to $32k is that, if anything or if at any time, the price kicks up to that level, it automatically means that the bear market is over and the bull kicked in. What surprises me the most is that traders tend to love the bull season more than the bear, hence limiting themselves from seeing numerous opportunities they could get from trading bear markets.

Anyways, making use of the two market situations should be accredited only to pro traders who have understood the market and have been in it for a long time.

It all certainly can not be separated from the experience that has been obtained,
because the more experience then we will know what to do by adjusting the situation,
smart traders I don't think they will waste this opportunity

Quote from: virasisog on July 01, 2022, 06:33:14 PM

Quote from: doomloop on July 01, 2022, 10:46:43 AM

Quote from: newdevices on June 12, 2022, 04:02:40 PM

The thing about this Bitcoin going up to $32k is that, if anything or if at any time, the price kicks up to that level, it automatically means that the bear market is over and the bull kicked in. What surprises me the most is that traders tend to love the bull season more than the bear, hence limiting themselves from seeing numerous opportunities they could get from trading bear markets.

Anyways, making use of the two market situations should be accredited only to pro traders who have understood the market and have been in it for a long time.

Experienced traders treat every situation as normal days, both bull and bear do have corresponded strategy

that experienced traders will use in order to continue taking the advantage, as per regular traders and newbies it's a must

to study and observe before taking any decision, the volatile nature of this industry can burn your money in a short

period, so be aware and be careful with how you take and respond in this kind of scenario inside trading.

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Quote from: virasisog on July 01, 2022, 06:33:14 PM

Quote from: doomloop on July 01, 2022, 10:46:43 AM

Quote from: newdevices on June 12, 2022, 04:02:40 PM

The thing about this Bitcoin going up to $32k is that, if anything or if at any time, the price kicks up to that level, it automatically means that the bear market is over and the bull kicked in. What surprises me the most is that traders tend to love the bull season more than the bear, hence limiting themselves from seeing numerous opportunities they could get from trading bear markets.

Anyways, making use of the two market situations should be accredited only to pro traders who have understood the market and have been in it for a long time.

I really don't know how to operate, but what I learned one day in a book by Jesse Livermore comes to mind, and that is that every operation was protected with a contrary operation and never exit the market, that is, if we are in Short We must protect ourselves with a Long on the same side so that at the moment of going against the Short the market, we are winning with a LONG, of course this includes a lot of attention and a lot of concentration because there are usually short movements that give profits or losses in seconds, it's all an adrenaline rush, but I think it's a somewhat unusual way of trading and always being in the market.

Quote from: ShowOff on August 26, 2022, 04:54:28 AM

OP, if you don't like fluctuations in asset prices then just ignore them and focus on holding your assets long term. That is the best advice for you because basically we never really know when prices go up and down. I don't like day trading, this makes me vulnerable and easily scratched by emotions due to price fluctuations. So a safe choice for me is an investment that I do for the long term.

But somehow I don't know if you'll read this one because I don't see you interested in responding to the thread and more interested in posting the bounty report link at this point.

You're right, people who don't like market fluctuations would be better off holding assets for the long term. it will be safer.
trading with market conditions that are not so good of course it will be difficult to get a profit. especially for those who trade on the spot. maybe different for futures traders because they can still profit in a down market. however, the risk of market fluctuations will remain high.

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Quote from: ShowOff on August 26, 2022, 04:54:28 AM

As we are in the crypto market, we are supposed to adapt to the nature of the market and go along with it. Letting our emotions control us will surely drive us in the wrong direction and gives us losses. I assume that OP is reading this thread back and hoping it changed his mindset and so his market view. And he can choose what would be fit for him and take that option. Because there is no other way to proper trading but just to trust ourselves and carry positivity in mind.

Quote from: Pandu Geddon on August 26, 2022, 05:42:21 AM

Look at the current market conditions, you will definitely see that in the last 5 hours bitcoin has lost more than $1000 in price. If they like day trading, then surely by now they have lost especially if they didn't have time to hit the cut loss. This is the reason why I don't like day trading even though it can also be profitable. It's too risky to say it's safe, but of course there are people who can use it to their profit.

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Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

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My advise for you in this current market situation is if you trade on potential coin then invest and re-invest on them and put them into Binance flexible stake (saving) and hold them for long term. For most save asset you can choose the top pairs of the coins I think bitcoin is the most safest coin for investment. Here you don't need to worry about the security and if you stake them on Binance saving you will get 5% apr everyday.

Research on good projects if you are really that minding about low caps or low ranking coins, majority are on reds which is ideal to get in.Market situation which is bearish state isnt something
that easy to make out decisions because we would really be having doubts whenever we do make out some buying decisions.Never ever consider on selling on loss because it would really be
a very wrong idea to have.You should see these things specially on red where this do really create some opportunity for you to get in.Its normal to be that reactive or emotional
but you shouldnt tolerate yourself when it comes to sudden bad decision making.

Because the market is down at this time۔ but in this market you can also trade in your assets. Trading can be of two types one is short term trading and the other is long term trading.for short term trading It is advisable to choose a suitable coin that has good volume and also has high volatility within that coin.And as the price of bitcoin stabilizes, the altcoin starts getting pumped from which a good trader can make a good profit.This is how you can make your trades in short term trading. Because all altcoin are going down anf up. The best trading is by buying low and selling high and repeatedly.

If you want to trade your assets properly in this market situation, the first thing you need to do is to trade with the trend.If the market is going down, you have to place your orders accordingly.You have to place a short order to gain accordingly.If the market is going up, you have to bet up.The goal is for you to follow the trend.If you don't have much experience Then you wait for the trend to end, when a bull trend starts, you can trade your capital again at that time.Also, to trade in this market, choose coins that have a low circulating supply and high volume, and choose coins that have high volatility in that market. You can earn a good profit by doing this in this market.

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Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

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Before you make your position, make sure that you analyze the market and you do your DYOR. There are many coins to

choose. It's a matter of how you about think the potential and how will you do your analysis. There are coins are that already in red but

continue to dump. If you see that the coin still has the potential, it's good to take the risk and buy. All you have to do is close

your monitor and let the cycle to continue and just wait for the value to rise back before selling your coins. Never to sell when

you are at a loss unless you are already sure that the coins already collapse and there's no hope anymore for another bounce.

Quote from: Digital_Lord on September 03, 2022, 03:55:03 AM

All of us are aware that it is challenging to get money in a market with such a reduced and cheaper prices but buying special coin is one instance where this is true. The fact that the rates are erratic does not indicate that crypto will stop and will quite operating and functioning any more but it implies that crypto is fallen but it will rise very soon again. Try to buy coins and never utilize your emotions here just calm to wait for price to again boom.

That's right, one way to profit and survive in the crypto market in the current downturn is to buy potential assets for the long term.
Starting a trade is also too risky. and I think that long-term planning would be better for the current situation. especially with assets like Bitcoin and Ethereum. whatever happens in the market, don't let go of losses because in the future holding these assets will be profitable.

Quote from: junkerr on September 03, 2022, 08:00:37 AM

Quote from: Digital_Lord on September 03, 2022, 03:55:03 AM

Proper planning and decision making is a must because if you've been making out decisions blindly then it would really be prone to mistakes which would really be costing you big losses
if those investments would really be that going into the opposite side.

This is the main reason on why people do ending up on deciding on holding for long term instead rather than on dealing with the price on a short span of time.Its up to someones choice
since not all would really be that confident on dealing with volatility on active manner so its a personal choice.

Quote from: junkerr on September 03, 2022, 08:00:37 AM

Quote from: Digital_Lord on September 03, 2022, 03:55:03 AM

Don't let your fear overtake your decision when you see market downfall, much better to keep your holdings till you see the

market bounces back and brings decent profits. It's a long wait, but it is worthy if you will collect a good amount

of money from your investment. Be wise and always updated with how you anticipate the market. The chance is good

if you know how to pick the right asset to invest.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

- That depends on what you want to happen as an individual trader here in cryptocurrency. If you want to make a good profit in the future, the top altcoins in the market you should hold are tokens or coins that have real potential, such as ETH, Bnb, Sol, Ada, Matic, Utk, Shib, and others.

Now, if you want to still make money even though we are still in the current situation, day trading will be done by a crypto trader.
In addition, from another angle, you can also combine it like a double blade or double profit or more in the future.

Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on September 05, 2022, 07:01:42 AM

~snip~Now, if you want to still make money even though we are still in the current situation, day trading will be done by a crypto trader.
In addition, from another angle, you can also combine it like a double blade or double profit or more in the future.

Daily trading requires above-average trading skills, which means you have to understand technical analysis well, because you will read charts quickly. besides that it takes a large capital to get more profit from each order made. day trading has a higher risk because the timeframe used is quite fast. need money management so that daily trading goes well.
and for futures trading, I think it is very risky, especially when the market is not good. losing money will be faster and that's not good for now. Futures require good analytical skills.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

Because of the current price, the state of the market, and the numerous unfavorable developments, I would advise waiting until the price is above $32,000 before buying and maintaining a stop-loss at that level. A drop below $20000 will lead it to drop to between $19000 and $18000, and a dip below $18000 will cause a significant drop to as low as $13000, $10000, or less than $10000. So ask yourself if you would still be willing to purchase if the price increased to $10,000. or keeping an eye on the market would be a better choice.

everyone already knows the current market conditions are very high risk but every condition requires us to be able to do the best strategy to get profits and hold on to losses so they are not too high, short time is probably the best thing in trading at this time, and don't forget to always follow the latest developments about the state of the world economy and issues between countries that may have a lot of influence on price changes as a fundamental analysis, and lastly, don't hesitate with what we have read from the final results of technical analysis, if in doubt, don't force it to enter.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

No one will loss if we don't sell at loss, many investors or traders suffers from the bear market condition but they know how to hold and they will not end up to lossing, even if we buy btc when its price is 100k$ and it go down to 10k$ we still not loss if we hold it and wait till its price back to 100k or up, there are so many coin that depends on market condition and most of them are very low price right now choose the better one for good.

Quote from: Digital_Lord on September 13, 2022, 01:18:15 PM

In my opinion i think that the ratio of money which you esteem that will not use in everyday works so it will be ideal for you to put that differently in separate tokens, when the price reaches to grand level then sell them one by one. Short term investment in bad market is associated with positivity but it will be useful for some expert buddies not for everyone.

because when the bear market trend, more investors will enter for long-term investment planning with coins that have great potential.
those who make short-term investments are of course planning to make a profit when a short pump occurs. not looking forward to an upcoming bull season.

Quote from: Munir575 on September 15, 2022, 08:48:44 PM

Trading is exceedingly dangerous in the current market environment. Since the COVID pandemic is still ongoing and contributes to the market's sour attitude, I'll just hold onto my coins for as long as I can rather than try to sell them to make a profit. I wouldn't think twice purchasing some altcoins right now because they are actually on sale if I had some spare cash. Some of those coins might easily increase by 20% once the market starts to rise again, which would result in a huge profit for me.

At times like this, of course, buying and storing is the best thing. but because of the pandemic situation and inflation we must be able to manage finances to meet the needs of daily life so that it does not interfere with our asset investment, because it aims for the long term or at least until the bullish season comes where no one knows when it will come. With such financial management, it will certainly make us more enjoy holding assets until the target is achieved

Quote from: Xampeuu on September 16, 2022, 03:35:38 AM

Quote from: Munir575 on September 15, 2022, 08:48:44 PM

You must have that sets of plans regarding to your investment,

right now, the current market movement creates fears, and more and more traders and investors are being forced to cut their losses and
release those assets which not performing or assets that they can let go to avoid further losses.

Handling these types of situations really a hard task, but throughout the day, it's going to depends on how you decide with your investment.

Still going to be your decision making that will save your butt with any market instances that may affects your profits and losses.

Quote from: Xampeuu on September 16, 2022, 03:35:38 AM

Quote from: Munir575 on September 15, 2022, 08:48:44 PM

That's right, with the current conditions, we really have to think about managing finances and investments.
expenses need to be reduced and as much as possible to buy really important needs,
It's not an easy thing for sure to face conditions like this but somehow we have to keep trying to survive

Quote from: Digital_Lord on September 13, 2022, 01:18:15 PM

Diversification is a great thing in the investment world wherever you are. I personally do not believe in putting more than 10% into any coin honestly, but I do not follow my own investment advice because 50% of my coins are in bitcoin, and nearly 30-35% of them are in ETH and another 15-20% are in BNB, so I am not really following my own advice.

But if you find something that really worths your money then you should put a 10% in there, and keep doing that with as many as you can, maybe put like 25% to bitcoin and 20% to ethereum because those are giants of the market and that is reasonable levels, but aside from that keep it on 10% and diversify your portfolio for sure.

Quote from: Pullyearop on May 10, 2022, 06:56:55 PM

I mean if we see "when is market condition bear" then i would be perfect call to buy top100 crypto. But anyone suggestion in this situation when we fall in bear market.

If you aim / buy crypto types in the top 100 boxes, in my opinion it's not a trade name, it's more, towards long-term & short-term investments.

As far as I know there are several trading methods you can do such as: Trading on margin, spot and Futures, my experience, of course I only target the top five crypto types, for example: Bitcoin, Ethereum, BNB.

But if you want to buy and choose crypto top 100, for me you can just focus on investing, because in the top 100 there are many cryptos that you can choose and are cheap, during a bear market like today, my understanding if i focus on the market as it is now, of course i am not in trading, i prefer long term investment.

Quote from: kapalmabur on September 16, 2022, 11:52:40 AM

As you reduce your expenses, don't compromise the budget you'll have for investments. Still, keep on investing while budgeting everything that you can.
Remember that in a bear market and financial crisis, there would always be people that takes this as an advantage and opportunity and the next millionaires are created at these times.

The proper way to make a trade is to of course buy low and then sell high. Professional trading do have its own definition too and if you think you aren't yet on that level then you better practice more. Trading is risky even if you do it on a proper/professional way so your assets are not safe but you are prone of losing them but this fact shouldn't be enough to scare you or discourage from doing what you love.

When it comes to coin choice, top 100 can be too much already but why not lower it like pick only coins that are under the top 10 or top 5? Not only that you won't have a hard time dividing your funds on them, but the success rate of those coins are also much higher.

Quote from: barbara44 on September 17, 2022, 08:42:19 PM

The proper way to make a trade is to of course buy low and then sell high. Professional trading do have its own definition too and if you think you aren't yet on that level then you better practice more. Trading is risky even if you do it on a proper/professional way so your assets are not safe but you are prone of losing them but this fact shouldn't be enough to scare you or discourage from doing what you love.

When it comes to coin choice, top 100 can be too much already but why not lower it like pick only coins that are under the top 10 or top 5? Not only that you won't have a hard time dividing your funds on them, but the success rate of those coins are also much higher.

^The part that I bolded above is only a basic way of trading that surely you will gain. But the problem is how you will execute that action so that you can actually predict the market at the right price like buying high and selling low. If you are in day trading, scalping would be better if the market has a continuous price decrease. I think not only the indicator to determine a good coin if it is on the top 100, some of them are not good for investment. That is why we choose wisely, a coin that has potential.

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Quote from: Munir575 on September 15, 2022, 08:48:44 PM

In a bear market situation like now we have to be careful when trading, because the risk that we will face will be greater than when trading
in a bull market situation. As you said it is very important to manage our finances properly, we better prioritize trading on top coins, which has
a greater chance of making a profit. That way the capital we use will not be wasted, because we know this year many bad things will happen,
so we must be wise in spending our money. Then my advice in situations like now avoid futures trading, which has a very high risk. It is better
to make a small profit from spot trading, but sustainable and if we are patient in accumulating the profit we make from spot trading will be large too.
Actually the safest option when in a bear market situation is to accumulate top coins and we hold it in the long term, it's actually the option
I most recommend.

Quote from: sayaya17 on September 17, 2022, 09:08:53 PM

Quote from: kapalmabur on September 16, 2022, 11:52:40 AM

Quote from: Xampeuu on September 16, 2022, 03:35:38 AM

Quote from: Munir575 on September 15, 2022, 08:48:44 PM

Also, I am inclined towards the Hold option, especially for a safe asset such as BTC, if we go for BTC there would be no problems, it would be expected and that's it, but there are people who like to move money and not they have the patience to see how their money goes up or down and more like pir is seeing now that it is more down than up, then we can make the futures market as a good decision, do a good bioen analysis and take risks, many are doing this, but copy-trading is very fashionable, I have not tried it, epro is a great option for people who have no idea what is going to happen in the market.

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on September 19, 2022, 02:18:40 AM

Quote from: sayaya17 on September 17, 2022, 09:08:53 PM

With a situation like this, I also lean towards the option of holding, spot trading or futures trading is very risky. The bear market is a very difficult market to profit from so don't be in a hurry or just for a little profit in the short term make us lose a lot. In my opinion if we cannot make a profit during bear season, we can look for another job during this time and try to accumulate top coins waiting for the next bull season. This way we will minimize the risk and also accumulate more cheaper coins.

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Quote from: sayaya17 on September 17, 2022, 09:08:53 PM

That's right, we are in an unstable bear market. looks like an improvement but after that will face a deeper correction. spot and futures trading can trap us in these uncertain market fluctuations. holding the assets that we have is the best choice. we have to wait for a better moment to start our trading again.

Quote from: fuguebtc on September 19, 2022, 02:57:36 AM

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Quote from: sayaya17 on September 17, 2022, 09:08:53 PM

Indeed when a bear market needs to be wise in making decisions,
I think it is a must because the current conditions are full of risks and if we make decisions carelessly it is not impossible that we will lose,
clear as much as possible to minimize the risk

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