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the 31st South East Asian Games is currently ongoing and being held in Hanoi, Vietnam. just like before, 11 countries will participate and compete in the multi-sporting event.

here are the list of countries that will participate and the number of athletes that have been sent to compete in the 31st SEA Games

Vietnam (965)		Brunei (24)		Cambodia (560)		Indonesia (499)		Laos (363)		Malaysia (612)
Philippines(656)		Singapore (476)		Thailand (888)		Myanmar (352)		Timor-Leste(69)

(source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Southeast_Asian_Games))

here is the current Medal tally (source (https://seagames2021.com/?lang=en-US))
https://i.imgur.com/XI3c3zG.jpg

Based on the athletes per country and the home advantage it is safe to say that Vietnam would most likely take the most gold, but who knows perhaps other countries would be able to surpass Vietnam.

if you are curious about the 30th SEA games thread here in the forum, here's the link 30th South East Asian Games (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203465.0)

I should congratulate Vietnam in advance.

As they're the host of this 31st SEA games, they're also showing that they're not just a host but the top to take a lot of medals. What I'm always looking on this event is Timor Leste.

There's really a need for them to invest more to their athletes and trainers. But I know someday that they'll be up from the bottom.

In you list, some of the Asian country was not visible. May I know what is the reason behind it. India was from the Asain nation and not visible on the list. The list also skip the Bangladesh for the same. In this China, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia was the region will top the table. The rest of the Nation will play and doesn't top the table at any moment. Their will be enough strategy can be used by the more determined teams.

Be clear, it is South East Asian countries. It includes those eleven countries mentioned. Vietnam have got the highest number of participants, followed by Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia. The games are scheduled to take place in 12 days. Two days passed, more ten days left which can make changes in the medals table. Last time it was philippines to win the overall champion.

this event only for south east countries on list above. it is regular event that help by each 2 years with host will changes. maybe if China included in South East country they will be the winner and none of them could beat China. Usually based on history, host will be the champion because they could decided which sport included in event and which is not. so they may only take sport that could be their medal barn

There’s a lot good players for this 31st SEA games, and the depending champion are also there so this can be an exciting one as well. Usually the host players are the one who are winning the gold tally, so for this Vietnam really have the advantage here but of course other countries can also have that chance. Vietnam add some sports, that could be a big challenge for other countries.

Is this event available on our favorite sportsbooks?

I heard that it's ongoing and I see some news about some of our participants and winning medals already but I have not yet put a bet on this event. Anyone has tried betting already? and what platform are you using for your bets?

not sure what's your favorite sportsbook but I checked stake.com and they have posted odds for men's and women's volleyball. I also, checked sportsbet.io but didn't get a result when I search for "SEA games" on their website.

Men's Volleyball
the Philippines(1.03) vs Cambodia (9.20)
Vietnam(1.02) vs. Malaysia(10.00)

Women's Volleyball
Thailand(1.04) vs The Philippines(8.60)

Actually, the country host is always on top in South East Asia based on what I remembered.

I feel sorry myself that I didn't put focus on this event since our country just came from a hot trend which is National Elections that's why I even didn't see media outlets covering this event in a hard exposure.

Is there are open betting on this event? Regardless, I'm not expecting PH to have good odds on my preferred sports.

I don't know SEAGAMES are already taking place. Look at those medal tallies, there are more rewarded medals now. I'm so busy with other news and this is the first time I didn't see the main highlights of the said event. Even browsing my Facebook, no feeds about it from any sources. We know in an event like this, it should have a related post in our feeds.

My country is PH and I'm sure others have the same experience as me. Maybe because of those hot topics here recently that's why not much exposure in the event where our country is one of the best here. The thanksgiving party of the losing candidate here is most highlights yesterday compare to SEAGAMES-related news (trigger warning).

It's not always the case. For example, Singapore has hosted this event on more than one occasion but they never won. Host countries have the advantage because they're allowed to pick the sports they are strong at but topping the tournament still depends on  their athletes. The total number of delegates sent to participate also plays a big role to the results.

True, but if I'm not mistaken, Singapore when they hosted didn't put a lot of athletes as compare to other nations who hosted it wherein they have all entered every sports discipline and even have one more athletes/teams in an sport event.

And just like any other sports, the host country has all the advantage in this kind of setup. So most probably they will win the most medals. So it will just be a battle of 2nd-4th places.

I am waiting for Cycling competition in which Mountain Bikes specifically because My Cousin will be competing and there is a Big chance of Her winning a Gold in this competition .

I may congratulate Vietnam for the advantage , But I will wait for the final result , as I bet with a friend in which county will be the first second and third meaning we gamble for this SEA Games.

If China is part of it, they'd be more dominant and could grab all the gold. Chinese Athletes are very much incentivized by China so they really are up to compete.  You will noticed that in every Olympics Chinese athletes are always going to be making lots of gold. Actually, also Russia.

Vietnam athletes trained in  the grounds where the actual competition is like a homecourt, they'd got the high probability of winning.

The 31st Asian Games became entertainment for Southeast Asia, I was more focused on watching football matches, last night Indonesia managed to beat the Philippines with a landslide score of 4-0, and became the leader of Group A, played 3 times, won 2 times and lost once, Indonesia's chances To be able to qualify for the semifinals, it will be determined in the next match when they meet Myanmar, if Indonesia wins it can be confirmed that Indonesia can qualify for the semifinals of the sea games, if Indonesia loses they will most likely be eliminated.

Excellent, I can't wait. I love cycling. I am particularly interested in the track and field competition and also swimming. As at the time of writing this, Vietnam has 25 gold, 13 silver and 23 bronze medals. Malaysia has 11 gold, 5 silver and 13 bronze medals while Indonesia has 7 gold, 9 silver and 2 bronze medals. And the Philippines 6 gold, 12 silver and 12 bronze medals. So far, Vietnam has won the most medals, followed by Malaysia and then Indonesia.  In 2019, the Philippines had the most gold medal. Are we going to see a repeat of that in this year's games?

If that's the only focus of their administration, they can certainly ramp up the budget for their athletes. But Timor-Leste is one of the poorest countries in the world right now, and they cannot afford to spend on making their athletes better more than they can do with their economy. Athletes from Timor-Leste are very dedicated, no doubt,  but they could be even better if they have the budget to train with better equipment and better training program.

I have heard that the interest of a wide audience (especially young people) is declining even for events like the Olympics, I would like to know how things are with such local competitions. Maybe the situation is reversed here? After all, it is unlikely that Vietnam can dominate so much anywhere else, so those competitions where the athletes of your country are very successful should be more attractive.

It's true that they're not a wealthy country and all of their athletes are dedicated. I think they're still early on it and one day they'll surely be part of those countries that are bagging every medal that is available.

That will be a game changing for them if they allocate a little bit higher budget for their athletes to have better trainings and program to achieve medals. Because it's also their economy that will benefit from it if they bag medals home.

Good question. I think for locals, it's more of just a way to let say get a scholarship in school if you are really good in sports and maybe you can represent your country in this kind of events which I think it big in Southeast Asia. And who knows, they can eventually conquer the Olympics. So I wouldn't say that it is declining for young people, but this could be a way for them to get out of poverty.

Some countries in SEA doesn't have Olympic medals yet, so it they win in SEA games and then by chance won the first gold medal in Olympics it will be a huge honor for them and the government will shower them with money. Just like what the recent Olympic champion Diaz brought to the Philippines, winning it's first Gold medal, returning to the country as hero and then given huge sums of money by the Philippine government.

Congratulation to your cousin for Qualifying for the SEA games and good luck with her competition. I am sure the other athletes would not make the competition easy for her.

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if anyone is curious or wants to bet on men's Volleyball Stake.com posted odds for Volleyball again(seems like this is the only sport they are posting odds on the SEA games)

these are the current odds for the match
Myanmar(1.16) vs Malaysia(4.50)
Indonesia(1.85) vs Vietnam(1.85)

that's where olympic medalist usually starts their journey. it is indeed high honour for these athletes to snatch gold esp in olympics because most asean countries have very low to none of these olympic gold. so if anyone got it, it is already a big deal for the country, hence, giving all the possible cash rewards and other benefits to show support to the athlete.
good thing that this pandemic has not affected the scheduling of this event. we may be continuously seeing sports events going back to normal again.

Right, and there was also the case of Joseph Schooling, we made the splash (no pun intended) to win the 100m butterfly gold in 2016 for Singapore, their first. And he done it in fashion, beating the great Michael Phelps. But it all began in this kind of games in Southeast Asia.

And speaking of him, they were DQ yesterday in men’s 4x100m freestyle relay.


https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sport/singapore-disqualified-after-winning-sea-games-gold-4-x-100m-freestyle-relay-2685291

Here's the latest Medal Tally of the 31st South East Asian Games. looks like Thailand and the Philippines were able to catch up and surpass Indonesia and Malaysia while Vietnam is still leading with 66 gold at the moment.
https://i.imgur.com/aTCEoxP.jpg

that is heartbreaking. just to clarify to the others who haven't read the article. the reason for the disqualification was due to technicalities, supposedly an early take off from one of the swimmers in the team.

Most probably is still because of pandemic where the possible viewers can’t travel that much because of the restrictions and that’s why Olympics and other sports event like this are not jumped pack but hopefully, we cab slowly see the crowd again once there’s no pandemic anymore. The host country always have the chance to take the lead since they can send more players on every sport. Thailand and Philippines are still neck and neck for the top 2 spot, few more days and I think Thailand will take the lead since they are still sports that Thailand is good at, we will see.

Right, many athletes started their dream in local events and then around their neighbors with this SEA games and eventually go to greater heights in the Olympics.

Sports is slowly going back to normal now, we've seen other big events also unfolding this year and it's good that despite the pandemic in Asia, the organizers pushed this one as schedule and congrats to the host nation. Watch the opening ceremony and it is splendid.

Looking at the tally it is the host country is dominating the  event , but the second is not that that far from the rank one in which Vietnam .

I am rooting for more events that gonna take place today like outdoor games and surely it will add medals in the tally .

The list of medals for the 2022 sea games, for now Vietnam still dominates at the top, it can be said that other countries will not be able to catch up with Vietnam, which has collected 155 medals so far, while my country is still ranked 4th, and has already won 67 medals. , but I don't know for sure what sports my country participates in, because I don't really follow these sea games, I only focus on one branch of football, in yesterday's match Indonesia managed to beat Myanmar with a score of 3-1, with a win Indonesia managed to qualify for the semifinals.

But I heard that the television ratings of the Olympic Games are also declining, which would be illogical even in a pandemic if you believe that interest in such competitions remains at least at the same level.
Quite an interesting situation in the medal count - Vietnam has more gold medals than Thailand, the Philippines and Indonesia combined. And the proportions between gold silver and bronze medals are anomalously disproportionate - a typical pattern for hosts.

You can google the updates for those games that they're participating in.

There is a lot of coverage that is focused on this sea games but you need to find the most reliable one or those that really have information about the games and updated reports.

Vietnam will remain on the top based on the tally right now and advance congratulations to them then.

As we can see here, there is a trend which country is leading with the medals.
In the past couple of years, if we check the history - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asian_Games.
When Philippines and Malaysia were the host country, in 2019 and 2017, respectively, they were also the ones leading the race.
And now, Vietnam is the host country, they are the leading one. I believe, host country has the advantage.
I am not saying there's bias, but for the athletes, they are in their comfort zone, so maybe, they are performing much better.
Also, they have the large part of audience supporting them giving a good boost in their morale.

Looks really impressive for Vietnam. It's clear that they have well-trained athletes that could really bring honor and recognition to their country. Good luck for the other countries' athletes too. I'm sure all of them have different skills to be recognized but only those who got the best one will be able to get the rewards. I will keep myself updated on this as my country is certainly one of those who sent great athletes too.

As you pointed out and if we refer to the history of SEAGAMES, host countries do have a 90% chance to dominate the overall medal tally.

I remember when our country hosts the event, the crowd is really intimidating and those cheers will really pump up the athletes while on the other hand, it's a big distraction to the visitors. That alone is a hard wall to break for a visiting country.

And no, there are no biased results in most cases as games are witnessed live and as far as the overall experience is concerned, no such thing as several big controversies happening yet up to now.

Yes, they've prepared for it.

They don't want to fail to bag the most medals while they're the host country for this year's SEA Games. They've prepared more on this because there's reputation as a host country.

Definitely, for the most of them, they're prepared and don't want to fail their respective countries that they do represent.

The sea games were again enlivened, it was the turn of the host Vietnam who would support the running of this sports party, from each country so enthusiastic about participating in this prestigious event. Although the coverage is not too broad but I think it's cool. Vietnam may not be the first time since 2000s were well entertained. Although maybe last year there were some incidents that made some players, I hope this year goes smoothly and no one withdraws from this tournament, we know there are reserves from every country that can continue to support the event well. As a good citizen I support Indonesia with pride and respect. Sport is a means of strengthening good relations between countries in an elegant way in 1 hobby. Hopefully the sea games in Vietnam will run smoothly and bring achievements for athletes and fragrant for the country they represent

People are more inclined to focus on earning or finding job.  As we know this pandemic makes many of us unemployed.  So I think it is also one factor why the media rating declined this current South East Asian Games.

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We can see how Vietnam sports developed over this decade and it is very impressive.  They progress so much while the Philippines Sports deteriorated.

I don't know about other countries but I understand it here in the Philippines. The media here is focused on the National Election for months which is a big thing here because of the frontrunner. That's why during the start of SEAGAMES, I rarely saw a news clip about it as almost all media here are focused on giving Election updates and related to it.

PH always has a good number of viewers when the country is performing at outside events. It's just the event was covered by other big news and in fact, most people here aren't even aware that there's a SEAGAMES ongoing.

That's my own view.

It looks like the host team always have the advantage. The last East Asian Games were conducted by philippines during the year 2019. In that event it was philippines that dominated the tally and ended up with a total of 387 medals. This time Vietnam is taking the lead and a week more for the last event to take place. Within that the tally won't change much.

Yeah, that's mostly been the case in Sea games, the host nation has a high chance to get the most medal. So it's Vietnam's turn to dominate this event and the next host will be Cambodia in 2023. However, Cambodia just got 1 medal in the current Sea games but this might change and maybe they will get at least in the top 3 standing in the medal in the next meet.

the latest update on the medal tally. Vietnam still leads with 88 gold, Thailand in the second place with 36 gold and the Philippines in the 3rd with 30 gold. also, it looks like Singapore has surpassed Malaysia and has cathed up with Indonesia with both of them having 24 gold medals.
https://i.imgur.com/y4pFqlq.jpg

me being a Filipino would love to see the Philippines Surpass Indonesia and take second place at the end of the SEA Games. it would be a huge feat to do especially when Indonesia has 888 athletes sent to the SEA games while the Philippines only has 656.

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if anyone wants to bet on the SEA Games Women's Volleyball, stake.com has posted odds for their match Vietnam(10.00) vs Thailand(1.02)

^ What's the remaining sports discipline though?

Reason I'm asking is that maybe The Philippines can excel on those and might overtake Thailand in the last remaining days. And the race for the 2nd-5th place is very close as well and maybe a final push by any of those nations might chance the placing.

It was happy to see the Vietnam on the top of the table. The surpass of Vietnam was not a easy task. It’s an multi sports gaming strategy in this event. Vietnam was the top of the table with 56 medals. Of that gold medal was highest of 24 medals. In bronze,the medal reach Upto the value of 21 medals. So this two plays huge role in the total medal list of Vietnam.

The Philippine gymnastics team rocks. Filipinos are built for gymnastics because they already posses the height, body posture and body structure required. There's still room for improvement. And it can give them the opportunity to compete against  the powerhouses like USA, Russia, China and other European countries. I am looking forward to see the the Philippines men's diving team.

Do we have some tips here on the current game or maybe the games tomorrow? I like to bet if the Philippines has a game, (whatever sport) as a way to have fun and maybe support them as well. I'm glad I found this thread, and I hope the Philippines will rank 2nd after this competition.

try checking stake.com every day in the several coming days. they offer betting odds for Men's and Women's Volleyball. currently, they have posted odds for tomorrow's Men's volleyball match, Cambodia vs. Thailand and Vietnam vs. Myanmar. earlier the Philippines Volleyball team had a match with Indonesia and lost.

Kudos to Vietnam, the country is really doing good and has a great standing according to the current tally board. But SEA games is not yet conceded, so other countries have a good chance to push harder, and maybe compete against the first place. I am also looking forward to the performance of the Philippine team since they have shown good potentials in the previous SEA games.

The first place is currently impossible to beat due to the amount of there current medals plus Vietnam huge advantage on the number of there participants since they are the host country. Typically SEA teams representative has only a limited number of participants due to budget limitation that’s why host country usually get the higher tally of gold medal because they can participate in all of the sports category since there players has no expenses for transportation. I’m not surprised that Philippines belongs on upper ranking since most of there players get a medal on the olympics.

It is undeniable that Vietnam has experienced sports improvements in the last 10 years, from football to other sports. Supposedly, Indonesia, which once had many top Southeast Asian players, could perform better, but in reality, sports in Indonesia are stuck, not improving. Only badminton and karate are the mainstays, Indonesian football is still full of political drama, other sports also don't know whether they will develop in the future or not. However, as long as politics is still strong in Indonesian sports, I believe that Indonesian sports will not be able to grow like Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia and Vietnam.

I love to bet on Basketball since I am following the PBA, so I would also love to bet on the Philippines on their remaining games if they still have. The last news I read, the Philippines won due to the huge effort of Fajardo, and I fail to put my bet on that game.

This is what I have thought as well. Vietnam has the advantage of filling up every category, thus collecting medals from each competition, adding up to their tally sheet. I think this is the privilege being given to the host country, but still, other countries have the same chance and opportunity if they would also pursue in investing with their players and continue to scout for more. After all, this is something that is done for the name and recognition of their own countries.

stake.com have added odds for SEA Game's Basketball. also, I checked some more sportsbooks, it seems that Cloudbet offers bet odds for SEA Game's, Volleyball, Basketball and League of Legends, and Soccer(they might add more).

since you are looking for basketball, Cloudbet and Stake have odds for Women's basketball, Thailand vs. the Philippines(10:00 AM), Malaysia vs. Singapore(2:00 PM), and Vietnam vs. Indonesia(6:00 PM).

I guess what Philippines could dominate in this event is either on the basketball for Men's category and in the eSports especially Mobile Legends, Arnis, Billiards, Dance sports and many more since they are the defending champion. Since Vietnam was the host I think they'll dominate on most categories or even the categories I mentioned above.

Even if you didn't fail to put a bet on that game, I doubt you will place a bet. The Philippine Basketball team is the top favorite to win the Gold medal. They are in their 14th consecutive Gold Medal quest in Southeast Asian games. There are 4 games remaining.

I think against Thailand and Cambodia their odds are just around 1.05-1.1. Not sure about Thailand but against Cambodia, I saw it was 1.05.

The Philippines will never be given high odds at SEA games basketball unless you want to accept that low odds.

I think the battle in the basketball ball game does require extraordinary stamina because the movement of the ball is very fast and must require accuracy to be able to enter the ball into the bed because if they miss the slightest opportunity it will make their confidence weak because they miss the opportunity to add points. while for the matches from Thailand and Colombia, I think Thailand will still show resistance once again to maintain points so that they are not far behind with the top points.

Good point, unless he's willing to take the handicap, but ML odd for the PH team will be like that, with that huge dominance

bookies won't give any decent odd the only chance that you can win a good amount here is to bet with a big amount of money

and take that risk, hoping that shit won't happen to you and the PH team will continue their business in winning the gold.

Hoping for the best outcome for our nationals, keep winning!

No one would take the ML with that odds, handicap is way better if we really trust the Philippines to win. I am also not following this sea games, I check the name Philippines in my sportsbook but it's the volleyball game that appears, and it seemed that Philippines is +6.5 against vietnam.

Here's the odds ; https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/volleyball/international/sea-games-women/philippines-vs-vietnam-6284dd8e313abd7e6c96caa5

^^ Yeah, I did check and there are odds actually for some games this Sea games.

Now it's basketball that I'm seeing, Malaysia vs Cambodia, and Malaysia establishing a huge lead against Cambodia by 20 points. So most likely it will be the handicap or the Over and Under score but I will skip this one though.

Because mate, this is only in South East Asia. Maybe in Olympics you will see all of the countries you are looking for. Although I am not from Vietnam, still I want to congratulate them for being the host country for this SEA Games, I know that hosting an event will be very stressful and needed so many resources and they are doing great , Vietnam also tops among these countries . I am looking forward for more Gold for PH, and whatever may happen still I am proud to all our athletes, kudos!

The Mobile Legend match has started at the Sea Games, judging from the M3 event few months ago, Indonesia was pretty good, but lost to the Philippines team. It looks like the result will not be much different from the M3 championship event, Indonesia may meet the Philippines in the final, but according to RRQ player Lemon, the Philippines is the strongest in ASEAN for now, Lemon said this in podcasts before the M3 event. because event date between M3 and the Sea Games is quite close, it is likely that Philippines will also win the championship, considering they have met with Indonesian representative teams very often and win few times, in this competitions look like will be same.

You are right. It was a wise move for Vietnam to work on its representatives, both in quality and quantity of players, during these years, which the country is now benefitting from. No wonder that they have the most numbers of medal, because they are able to present participants in e each category in the SEA games. But as I have mentioned, SEA games is not yet done, and a lot of countries and continuously showing their potential to be on top.

The event isn't over yet and even the op still hopes that other countries could catch up. I don't know if which country he resides but if he lives on Vietnam then he is a nice guy because he is not biased. You live in Thailand but why you are losing hope already and believes that Vietnam will take the lead? Tell me, do you have hate on your own country?

I am not expert on sea games but I believe that each country are the same, they will participate on all of the games available. You don't follow sea games but you did watch a match yesterday, I think that still considered that you are a follower of this event but Which platform did you watch? If it's youtube, you will see other matches related to it.

It is automatic, the Philippines is the top dog in SEA game basketball so if you wanna win big by backing the Philippines then we should go with the spread.

For today's game against Vietnam, the handicap is -33.5 @1.84, a very high handicap but I think it can be covered as basketball is not the sport that Vietnam does love.

Yesterday I've got a second thought on betting for the Philippines against Singapore with that -38 handicap but after seeing the game I think it will be smooth sailing for them until their last game against Indonesia which I think poses more threat to the Gilas 5.

Philippines already surpassed Indonesia because Indonesia before was on the 3rd rank but now it was on 4th. The battle now is between Thailand and Philippines. Both countries climb two spots from their previous rank. This is why it's hard to predict if who will win between them but I heard that Filipinos has a strong personality. They will try their best on everything that they do.

I have this feeling that they can surpass Thailand and possibly Vietnam on the first place but whatever the results will be, we must still be proud on the performance of our countrymen. That is what more important, not the medals, trophies or any other material things.

We know how much time and effort given by the organization, teams and player to compete in this event and each of them really deserves to have a huge congratulations to them, we know how the Philippines are active with this kind of game which is an ideal thing but the government does not focus to the things like this that's why mostly they have an issue with the sports game because they didn't  give enough funds for them only if they win they created the player feels sad with this but still the willingness of the player and the team to achieve the goal is in there.

What a handicap for the Philippines. :D

This just tells us how large the distance of the PH basketball team is to their neighboring countries in the Southeast Asia region.

They have won by 68 and 51 points against Cambodia and Singapore respectively and I think that -33.5 against Vietnam might be covered.

Vietnam won by 32 points against Cambodia though in the event opener.

What are you saying, bro? You should accept the reality that a 4th rank has a low chance now to catch up with the 1st rank which is the host country. You can really expect that the host country will dominate the event in almost all categories.

It doesn't mean that the user is giving up or hates the country. It's accepting the fact that is close to happening. Don't take the user's statement as a big deal.

It's already decided even though the event is not over yet.

while Vietnam is still in the lead with 126 gold, Thailand has increased their lead to the Philippines with 53 gold. the Philippines currently have 38 gold and will most likely have a hard time catching up. at the moment it looks like the Philippines will be stuck in the 3rd place and have a chance to be surpassed by Singapore 37 gold or Indonesia 36 gold.

Surprisingly Thailand has pulled away for the second spot against PH in the gold standing.

While PH, and SG are tied with 37 golds apiece although in total medals, PH is ahead. And then Indonesia with 36 golds. So it will be a close battle for the second spot behind Vietnam.

Kayla Richardson of PH winning Gold in the 100 M women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1tWiFL5ELo.

I just want to share that one of my neighbors and close friends of mine just got silver today. She is Christine Organiza for the Full Marathon (42km). I know that she can get the gold but got cramps when there was only 600m left, but still congratulations on this. In previous sea games, the Philippines only received a few gold medals, but in the last few sea games, we have received many.

Whatever the score of the medal tally is, I hope everyone will gonna have a good time enjoying their games and it's really nice to participate in such an event where your opponents are from other countries and when you managed to overcome them, you will have a chance to compete in the world tournament which you will gonna further test your strength and skills. I hope they will have successful and safe SEAgames this year and congratulations to the winners and the other athletes reaching this kind of level is a great life accomplishment for them.

Well that is the spirit of any games, have a good time and get to know a lot of athletes in different discipline and be friends with them.

I didn't compete in SEA games, but years ago, I found a counterpart worker from Malaysia who did decades ago so it was fun to know someone from different nationality. And although I have quit from that job and the company, we still remain friends and keep in touch. Goodluck to Philippines as well, hopefully in the remaining days of the game they can still win more golds.

I was checking on the sportsbook I'm using and I saw a live game of basketball, I thought it's the men's basketball but i was surprised it was for the female, though I like to bet on live betting but I choose not to bet when I see that the Philipines is dominating the game with a very huge lead.

And now I check it's the men's basketball and Philippines also have a huge lead .
https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/match/33674217-Vietnam-vs-Philippines

Team PH already beat the host country Vietnam in a Men's Basketball with 28 point lead. As mentioned above, the pre-game handicap for the Philippines is -33.5 which the PH didn't cover as the score is 88-60, still a big lead. With that win, PH now has 99.9% to winning the Gold Medal.

2 games remaining for them, against Malaysia and Indonesia which should be no problem as they already beat those teams who beat these teams.

PH is really the Team USA in the SouthEast games in Basketball.

I think it's just around 2 days left remaining for the event. Just correct me if I'm wrong.

It's looks like the current medal tally rankings will be the final preview of the result at the end. The different result every year is good to see here in SEA Games since it means, no teams are consistently dominating the event.

Only on those specific sports, we will see dominance but in general, there's no such thing as consistent 1st place here.

Unfortunately, Vietnam got it covered as the PH won by 28 points.

Can't really trust that high spread when playing against the host country.

PH team just toys them that's why every play isn't serious at the end. It is called garbage time that's why Vietnam was able to cover the spread. It should be over 50 points lead if the PH remains serious until the final buzzer.

Curious if Vietnam will still be the leading country come the next SEA games in Cambodia. Sometimes the host has the advantage to take away a large haul of medals. The gap between the running 1st and 2nd is quite wide. So yes, more than likely, Vietnam will get the first spot in the finals considering only fews days are remaining.

The latest medal tally update: Vietnam is still leading with 154 gold, Thailand with 62 gold. it looks like I was correct that the Philippines will be surpassed by Singapore and Indonesia. the Philippines currently sits at 5th place with 40 gold, Indonesia at 4th with 43 gold and Singapore at 3rd with 44 gold. there are still 3 remaining days before the SEA Games conclude. so the Rankings for the 3rd, 4th, and 5th place can still change in the last 3 days.
https://i.imgur.com/H6ytIWJ.jpg

according to Wikipedia, the SEA Games will last until May 23 which probably includes the closing ceremony.

Right it's more dependent on how well trained the athletes are of the country taking part in particular game as host country don't have any big advantage if players are not well trained for the sports.So many countries are being represented by different players in various sports and they all have competitive spirit among them to win but only the most capable one of them will take the medal.

Crazy domination of Vietnam (although the number of gold medals compared to medals of other denominations looks suspicious). Can anyone explain what is causing this (other than Vietnam hosting these competitions)? As far as I remember, Vietnam does not show anything like this at the Olympics. I heard that this country is actively developing - maybe sporting achievements reflect this?

The competition in Olympics is far from South East Asian games obviously.

Here in SEA games, it's only limited, of course, to South East Asian countries. In terms of sports, no country here is the most dominant in the majority of sports. It's like countries here have different specialties for example PH is the most dominant in Basketball but if you looked at the medal tally, they are in 5th place. We are also dominant in Women's weightlifting but still, rankings don't change. That's because the competition here in SEA is close, different from the Olympics.

Being in a host country is really an advantage as it gives pumped to the athletes to do their best.

Not only that, the host country can send as many athletes that they can, which is probably the big advantage.

Visiting countries can't send more than the allocated budget for the representatives, they can dominate in some sports but
they can't or it will be hard for anyone to beat the host country.

In addition to that, the improvement from each country is really developing. We can't say we will always dominate in particular
sports, we also needed to improve ours and continue being competitive.

Yep , there's a lot of games in Olympics and a lot of pressure . Being a host country is hard as well, imagine they are supporting their athletes and at the same time they need to provide high-quality of service and support to other countries, given that it is not a one man only job but the point is , it is not an advantage at all. They win the most of the game because they deserve it, everyone deserves the gold but someone will outshine and be the champion.

The host team is eyeing the 2021 Sea Games overall champion and that is Vietnam's main target, and it's no wonder that Vietnam is far superior because the Vietnam Sea Games contingent is the largest and is known to have a total of 965 athletes from Vietnam. And a total of 40 sports and all Vietnamese athletes participate in all sports, because not all countries participate in all sports.

and current standings.
1. Vietnam: 158 gold, 94 silver, 89 bronze, Total: 341
2. Thailand: 63 gold, 71 silver, 102 bronze, Total: 236
3. Singapore: 46 gold, 44 silver, 61 bronze, Toral: 151
4. Indonesia: 45 gold, 64 silver, 59 bronze, Total: 168
5. Philippines: 41 gold, 57 silver, 80 bronze, Total: 178

and Singapore, Indonesia and the Philippines are always changing in the standings because the difference is very thin, and the 2021 Sea Games will end in about 2 days. And will Singapore, Indonesia and also the Philippines be in third place in the final standings of the Sea Games?

Hmm, where's the suspicious part? As a host country, Vietnam does have participants in almost all sports categories making it possible for them to bag more medals. They have the biggest delegates compared to their visitor countries. It's common to see the host country having more medals because of the big advantages.

Look at Cambodia, currently having the worst standing right? But surely, they will top the medal tally next SEA Games as the host country.

Advanced congratulations to Vietnam, the host country for the 2021 South East Asian Games.

Meanwhile, our country, the Philippines is still the best in their comfort zone sports. Glad to see that we are still the reigning monster of basketball in South East Asia. There are also sports that our country dominated which is also hard to break.

The event really brings the excitement of those athletes after being stuck in pandemic for a long period of time.

By the way, I remembered something similar that I observed in my own country - 20 years ago (if I remember correctly) Russia similarly dominated either the Student Games or the Universiade. Here, sport has always been closely connected with politics, so the officials made every effort (honest and not very) in order to show a good result.

Vietnam should excel as expected as they are the host for this year's event as it would be a little bit awful if they rank last in every game's competition. But i am also looking forward for the Philippines to bring it on and achieve the expectations that they can still retained their thrones in the SEA games. Not to mention Hidilyn Diaz still made it and retained her throne from being a gold medalist in weightlifting.

By total medals comparison, Vietnam is already ahead.

In that particular competition, the women's weight lifting, I think Hidilyn Diaz is the favorite to win because he is a gold medalist in the Olympics, so I'm not surprised with the result, I just don't know what was the betting odds for that, or bookies offered an odds of that particular competition.

Yup, unfortunately, Gilas didn't cover the spread. The score or the lead of the Philippines in the first half is not even in double-digit as Vietnam was hitting those three's in the first two quarters while the Philippines percentage from the rainbow country was very low. From my observation, this current Gilas team lack clutch shooters that could score in bunches, luckily for them they have Junemar Fajardo that could grad the offensive rebound and score.

For today's game against Malaysia, the odds are very low, I mean the options are very limited. Even the bookies are having a hard time figuring out what market to give to their bettors lol.

Phil 1.01   Malaysia 14.28

not really, in the last 2015 SEA Games which was held in Singapore, Singapore placed second in the medal tally with 84 gold and Thailand taking the leading spot with 95 gold. so, being the Host country for SEA Games doesn't mean they'll dominate the competition. that being said, they'll the advantage since they can pick what sports they can add on which they can dominate.

I've just seen an update about this Sea games that it has included some esports games. I'm happy to see that there's a huge progress on the esports community and before this was just a taboo.

But look, it's part of the Sea games and will be part of it again for the next games.

As for these esports, one more thing to hope for is to be recognized on the Olympics.

Last day of the SEA games today and for Indonesians and Filipino users in this forum, we have a great game today. This will serve as the game for the gold medal because both teams have 0 loses and whoever comes out on top of the standings will get the gold medal, no championship game for this format.

Indonesia is fast catching up on the Philippines in this sport and for today's game, i think the latter looks vulnerable as Gilas don't have a solid lineup so what do you think guys?

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Yep and I am very proud that most of the Egames they played, PH tops among other countries. But I heard some news from other pro players that they encounter some internet connection issues because we all know that the ping and internet speed can affect the game of all players. I also hope that people will start to like Esports as well and considered it as real and challenging game like others.

But I think the Philippines can still win the gold here. I do agree that it might be one of the worst delegates they sent in this game, nevertheless they are still looking good in this Sea games.

I agree though that Indonesia is fast catching up as far as basketball is concern in Southeast Asia but then again, Philippines is not sending it's full force here.

esports is indeed gaining interest from the sports community. at least, this younger gen will have very good reason why they are into the gaming industry. it is like a profession already and not just like a side hobby.
we maybe seeing more and more of this in the next olympics as we have seen it in the 2021 summer olympics.


i am betting on PH here. they may not be the good lineup but they have the edge in my opinion. the odds are of course in favour of PH. but they should not take for granted the power of indonesia inside the court.

^ I'm not an avid fan/player of MLBB but congrats to all the organizations who pushed it to be added to the SEA Games. I didn't know it was already part of the event until two days ago. I won't be surprised to see top NFT games to be included in the next ten years.

Philippines will take the Gold but I'm not comfortable with the odds for moneyline and the point spread.

So Philippines is gunning for its' 14 straight gold in Men's basketball?

That's a huge accomplishment already, but I guess they wanted to extend the records and get that 15th straight. The team looks solid as I check their previous win, although of course they can't underestimate Indonesia as they want to break that dominating win by the Philippines in basketball.

The handicap for the Philippines is -12.5 right now, for those who are interested to bet.

I'm going to bet for this game today but i'll do live betting as for me that 12.5 handicap is a huge number considering that Marques Bolden will be playing today, he has the height to limit the offense of Junemar Fajardo which I think will be the match-up to watch out for in this game.

Gilas doesn't have the reliable shooters that it usually has in an international tournament but we will see in this game if Matthew Wright will finally come out on his shell.

I'm not sure about that.

But what I've heard is that Vietnam has chosen those esports where they're very competitive and some other esports are not included. Other than that, this sea games really rocks.

More to come for the esports community and acceptance is now becoming wide due to the competitive market by the esports.

Second place is still a nice spot. That really shows that being a host country can do wonders. The explanation can be is that they are more confident if they are playing within their country and on their country there are many people that will support them as when compare to when they travel on their countries. Didn't knew that a host country can pick their own games, I thought there are other people that manages these things but thanks for the info there.

To host or not, every country's performance will still depend on their determination to win and on how hard they practice. There is no guarantee that Cambodia will top next event but maybe they will? Because they will take this failure as a motivation to push their selves more.

Vietnam vs Thailand U23 SEA Games 2022 soccer results Host Vietnam won 1-0 thanks to Nham Manh Dung's long-range header in the 82nd minute which became the only goal scorer in the match.
from the start of the match in the first half the two U23 national teams both attacked each other but in the end Vietnam was able to score a goal at the end of the match and became champions and also got gold which was getting further and further at the top of the standings.

and currently there is a big match malaysia vs indonesia that is taking place and will fight for the 3rd place, and i predict indonesia will win and become 3rd place to get bronze.

What a historical play for the Indonesian basketball team when they beat the Philippines team earlier, it's the first time since I was born to see them win a gold medal in the Sea Games. They took it personally and managed to outscore the Philippines basketball team throughout the game. The Philippines wasted so many shots to take the lead but what can they do when they aren't against the other teams that they beat earlier which wasn't that easy to score especially since the defense was intense and so much pressure.

No offense to our Gilas, but those crucial missed might change the outcome of the game. It was the very first time since 1989 that PH losses there

gold medal in men's basketball category, we are being treated as the dream team of the southeast Asian game, that 2 weeks' preparation ain't

enough to established the solid squad to represent our country. Maybe this embarrassment can turn to a good motivation for the upcoming

world cup, will any possibilities that change with coaching staff and players will take place?

Well this is the cost of unseating head coach Baldwin.

It was a defeat that one have seen for the last 30 years. But with this lost, PH will have a lot things to do because it will cohost the next FIBA 2023 world cup with Indonesian themselves and Japan. So they better prepare to send the best team here if they wanted to get their position in the region.

It's nice to see more games in South East Asian Games especially e-sports where I fully supported.

MLBB is one of the known games in the esports category and the support for those games from countries who has representatives is wild. I've heard that the PH vs Indo is wild that Indo supporters reported the instagram of MLBB PH because PH got the gold medal. MLBB is very famous in those countries and I understand the frustrations but if the news were true, It's not good to show unsportsmanlike.

Indonesia and Philippines are always been like this, this is like a huge competition for them and the good thing is, best team won the price. Every SEA games there’s a new games added since the host country can add and remove sports/games depends on them. PHI is a defending Champion in MLBB, I think PH is the on who introduce MLBB in the SEA games if I’m not mistaken.

eSports started in SEA Games last 2019 and not just MLBB, you can see a lot of games that time and most probably this will always be part of SEA games as we see a good result from this games. SEA games is about to end and we have a great experience watching the athletes and players doing their best for their home country. They will have a short break because next year, Cambodia will be the host country and that could be more exciting.

Disappointed in PH men's basketball squad. We are dominating the basketball in the South East since 1989. All of those Gold Medals that PH won in men's basketball are dominating that all wins are averaging 40+ points lead.

I previously posted here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5169983.msg60150340#msg60150340) my concerns when PH struggles against Thailand. But after that, they dominated their next 3 games in a big lead until Indonesia snap the dominance for almost 3 decades.

The PH basketball squad should take that seriously. Honestly, with no offense, an SMC team in the local league, Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) can beat the Indonesian team. That's how serious the problem is in Gilas squad.

latest medal tally: looks like this will be the final ranking in the medal tally with Vietnam in the lead.

Congratulation to all the athletes that participated in the 31st SEA Games, I am sure this biennial sporting event has been a great experience for them.

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I was disappointed too, Gilas is a strong contender to get the gold and the Philippines was rooting for them to take another gold for their country. I hope what happened will be a lesson for them.

for anyone who wants to watch the closing ceremony, it will start at 8:00pm(GMT+7) Vietnam time.

the game changed to be honest, because at first in the early game i thought philippines will dominate the game since most of the representative are best players and well known as well in Philippine basketball, but yeah they missed a lot shots on the game and their performance seem become not good, i mean no chemistry.  So this is literally a better luck next time for Ph.

I'm disappointed with the outcome of that game too because as what you have said, the Philippines is dominating this sport for 4 decades, and just like that we were dethroned. They said that coach Toroman did a brilliant job of leading the Indonesians to where they are now but I said that they got a ton of help from PH dirty politics.

I’m disappointed too but of course we have to admit that Indonesia is also a strong country and we should accept this defeat for a better system and better improvements. Maybe, Gilas are too confident this year and they forget to focus on the game. For sure next year we will bounce back and expect more good players to join Gilas, though i hope they change the coaching staff because let’s admit it, they didn’t do well on that game and they should be fired.

When I just said we could dominate the basketball as the reigning champs for decades and then this happened. What a turn of events to be honest I never really thought that they will be ousted in that gold category. Toroman and Indonesia is surely rejoicing right now and I guess they deserve that win, we can't change it back anymore.

Congratulations to Vietnam, for being the host and also having the top of the tally. All of the athletes that have won and also those that don't. It's a great experience to be part of this for them.

And if they've failed for this 31st sea games, they'll just have to comeback stronger on the next one and they'll eventually reach their main goal of topping on the sport that they're competing and aim for the gold.

I'm not saying the Philippines is unbeatable but some of Indonesia' games are struggling against those teams that PH beats in a large lead. They are not that strong but yeah, the roster improves because of 2 imports that may be naturalized? I'm not sure. But it doesn't change the fact that PH should have an easy win against them.

Coach Chot Reyes didn't even think of playing the entire roster, especially the young gunners and become comfortable because of PH's recent win in a big lead. And then, later on, he will say to the media that the loss is because some players didn't participate in the roster? What kind of reasoning is that.

I'm not mad. Just a bit of concern because it shows there's really a problem managing the Gilas squad. I should say, "politics".

Overconfidence has its downside and hope Coach Chot remembers that from now on, hoping Gilas will get the likes of Baldwin or Cone in the international series. It's not because of the roster tbh, they are indeed have the best lineup, they just don't think Indonesia wouldn't get them or they underestimate them I guess.

Yeah, I agree to this. They overestimated it, as I would say they are no match for Gilas, but overconfidence can be deadly. I think he is thinking that they could conserve energy if not playing others and could boost or give a greater chance to win in the next game. But regardless of what happened, Chot Reyes is still a good coach, it's just that he made some mistakes. I'm hoping that if he's the coach next season, he can make a comeback.

the 31st Sout East Asian Games have ended yesterday, I've posted the final medal tally if anyone is interested in looking at it(quoted below). I will leave the thread open for a few more days before closing the thread in case anyone has something more to say about the SEA Games.

looks like nasional competition running well and alot potential player born from here. since few years ago coaching from an early age launched and competition between high school around city started. alot good players founded here and some of them become national players. its historical for Indonesia basket ball players since 13 years ago they could beat Philipines which is knowns as the king of south east.