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May 20, 2022, 03:06:38 PM
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Crazy domination of Vietnam (although the number of gold medals compared to medals of other denominations looks suspicious). Can anyone explain what is causing this (other than Vietnam hosting these competitions)? As far as I remember, Vietnam does not show anything like this at the Olympics. I heard that this country is actively developing - maybe sporting achievements reflect this?

The competition in Olympics is far from South East Asian games obviously.

Here in SEA games, it's only limited, of course, to South East Asian countries. In terms of sports, no country here is the most dominant in the majority of sports. It's like countries here have different specialties for example PH is the most dominant in Basketball but if you looked at the medal tally, they are in 5th place. We are also dominant in Women's weightlifting but still, rankings don't change. That's because the competition here in SEA is close, different from the Olympics.

Being in a host country is really an advantage as it gives pumped to the athletes to do their best.

Not only that, the host country can send as many athletes that they can, which is probably the big advantage.

Visiting countries can't send more than the allocated budget for the representatives, they can dominate in some sports but
they can't or it will be hard for anyone to beat the host country.

In addition to that, the improvement from each country is really developing. We can't say we will always dominate in particular
sports, we also needed to improve ours and continue being competitive.
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May 20, 2022, 04:28:29 PM
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The competition in Olympics is far from South East Asian games obviously.

Here in SEA games, it's only limited, of course, to South East Asian countries. In terms of sports, no country here is the most dominant in the majority of sports. It's like countries here have different specialties for example PH is the most dominant in Basketball but if you looked at the medal tally, they are in 5th place. We are also dominant in Women's weightlifting but still, rankings don't change. That's because the competition here in SEA is close, different from the Olympics.

Being in a host country is really an advantage as it gives pumped to the athletes to do their best.

Yep , there's a lot of games in Olympics and a lot of pressure . Being a host country is hard as well, imagine they are supporting their athletes and at the same time they need to provide high-quality of service and support to other countries, given that it is not a one man only job but the point is , it is not an advantage at all. They win the most of the game because they deserve it, everyone deserves the gold but someone will outshine and be the champion.
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May 20, 2022, 05:41:52 PM
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The host team is eyeing the 2021 Sea Games overall champion and that is Vietnam's main target, and it's no wonder that Vietnam is far superior because the Vietnam Sea Games contingent is the largest and is known to have a total of 965 athletes from Vietnam. And a total of 40 sports and all Vietnamese athletes participate in all sports, because not all countries participate in all sports.

and current standings.
1. Vietnam: 158 gold, 94 silver, 89 bronze, Total: 341
2. Thailand: 63 gold, 71 silver, 102 bronze, Total: 236
3. Singapore: 46 gold, 44 silver, 61 bronze, Toral: 151
4. Indonesia: 45 gold, 64 silver, 59 bronze, Total: 168
5. Philippines: 41 gold, 57 silver, 80 bronze, Total: 178

and Singapore, Indonesia and the Philippines are always changing in the standings because the difference is very thin, and the 2021 Sea Games will end in about 2 days. And will Singapore, Indonesia and also the Philippines be in third place in the final standings of the Sea Games?

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May 20, 2022, 06:16:17 PM
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Crazy domination of Vietnam (although the number of gold medals compared to medals of other denominations looks suspicious). Can anyone explain what is causing this (other than Vietnam hosting these competitions)? As far as I remember, Vietnam does not show anything like this at the Olympics. I heard that this country is actively developing - maybe sporting achievements reflect this?

Hmm, where's the suspicious part? As a host country, Vietnam does have participants in almost all sports categories making it possible for them to bag more medals. They have the biggest delegates compared to their visitor countries. It's common to see the host country having more medals because of the big advantages.

Look at Cambodia, currently having the worst standing right? But surely, they will top the medal tally next SEA Games as the host country.
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May 20, 2022, 07:21:14 PM
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Advanced congratulations to Vietnam, the host country for the 2021 South East Asian Games.

Meanwhile, our country, the Philippines is still the best in their comfort zone sports. Glad to see that we are still the reigning monster of basketball in South East Asia. There are also sports that our country dominated which is also hard to break.

The event really brings the excitement of those athletes after being stuck in pandemic for a long period of time.

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May 20, 2022, 08:49:29 PM
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Crazy domination of Vietnam (although the number of gold medals compared to medals of other denominations looks suspicious). Can anyone explain what is causing this (other than Vietnam hosting these competitions)? As far as I remember, Vietnam does not show anything like this at the Olympics. I heard that this country is actively developing - maybe sporting achievements reflect this?

The competition in Olympics is far from South East Asian games obviously.

Here in SEA games, it's only limited, of course, to South East Asian countries. In terms of sports, no country here is the most dominant in the majority of sports. It's like countries here have different specialties for example PH is the most dominant in Basketball but if you looked at the medal tally, they are in 5th place. We are also dominant in Women's weightlifting but still, rankings don't change. That's because the competition here in SEA is close, different from the Olympics.

Being in a host country is really an advantage as it gives pumped to the athletes to do their best.

By the way, I remembered something similar that I observed in my own country - 20 years ago (if I remember correctly) Russia similarly dominated either the Student Games or the Universiade. Here, sport has always been closely connected with politics, so the officials made every effort (honest and not very) in order to show a good result.

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May 20, 2022, 08:53:31 PM
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Kudos to Vietnam, the country is really doing good and has a great standing according to the current tally board. But SEA games is not yet conceded, so other countries have a good chance to push harder, and maybe compete against the first place. I am also looking forward to the performance of the Philippine team since they have shown good potentials in the previous SEA games.
Vietnam should excel as expected as they are the host for this year's event as it would be a little bit awful if they rank last in every game's competition. But i am also looking forward for the Philippines to bring it on and achieve the expectations that they can still retained their thrones in the SEA games. Not to mention Hidilyn Diaz still made it and retained her throne from being a gold medalist in weightlifting.

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May 20, 2022, 09:03:37 PM
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Kudos to Vietnam, the country is really doing good and has a great standing according to the current tally board. But SEA games is not yet conceded, so other countries have a good chance to push harder, and maybe compete against the first place. I am also looking forward to the performance of the Philippine team since they have shown good potentials in the previous SEA games.
Vietnam should excel as expected as they are the host for this year's event as it would be a little bit awful if they rank last in every game's competition. But i am also looking forward for the Philippines to bring it on and achieve the expectations that they can still retained their thrones in the SEA games. Not to mention Hidilyn Diaz still made it and retained her throne from being a gold medalist in weightlifting.

By total medals comparison, Vietnam is already ahead.

In that particular competition, the women's weight lifting, I think Hidilyn Diaz is the favorite to win because he is a gold medalist in the Olympics, so I'm not surprised with the result, I just don't know what was the betting odds for that, or bookies offered an odds of that particular competition.

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May 20, 2022, 09:49:53 PM
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For today's game against Vietnam, the handicap is -33.5 @1.84, a very high handicap but I think it can be covered as basketball is not the sport that Vietnam does love.

Unfortunately, Vietnam got it covered as the PH won by 28 points.

Can't really trust that high spread when playing against the host country.

PH team just toys them that's why every play isn't serious at the end. It is called garbage time that's why Vietnam was able to cover the spread. It should be over 50 points lead if the PH remains serious until the final buzzer.

Yup, unfortunately, Gilas didn't cover the spread. The score or the lead of the Philippines in the first half is not even in double-digit as Vietnam was hitting those three's in the first two quarters while the Philippines percentage from the rainbow country was very low. From my observation, this current Gilas team lack clutch shooters that could score in bunches, luckily for them they have Junemar Fajardo that could grad the offensive rebound and score.

For today's game against Malaysia, the odds are very low, I mean the options are very limited. Even the bookies are having a hard time figuring out what market to give to their bettors lol.

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May 21, 2022, 04:32:26 AM
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Look at Cambodia, currently having the worst standing right? But surely, they will top the medal tally next SEA Games as the host country.
not really, in the last 2015 SEA Games which was held in Singapore, Singapore placed second in the medal tally with 84 gold and Thailand taking the leading spot with 95 gold. so, being the Host country for SEA Games doesn't mean they'll dominate the competition. that being said, they'll the advantage since they can pick what sports they can add on which they can dominate.

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May 21, 2022, 12:25:08 PM
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I've just seen an update about this Sea games that it has included some esports games. I'm happy to see that there's a huge progress on the esports community and before this was just a taboo.

But look, it's part of the Sea games and will be part of it again for the next games.

As for these esports, one more thing to hope for is to be recognized on the Olympics.

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May 21, 2022, 10:46:30 PM
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Last day of the SEA games today and for Indonesians and Filipino users in this forum, we have a great game today. This will serve as the game for the gold medal because both teams have 0 loses and whoever comes out on top of the standings will get the gold medal, no championship game for this format.

Indonesia is fast catching up on the Philippines in this sport and for today's game, i think the latter looks vulnerable as Gilas don't have a solid lineup so what do you think guys?

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I've just seen an update about this Sea games that it has included some esports games. I'm happy to see that there's a huge progress on the esports community and before this was just a taboo.

But look, it's part of the Sea games and will be part of it again for the next games.

As for these esports, one more thing to hope for is to be recognized on the Olympics.

Yep and I am very proud that most of the Egames they played, PH tops among other countries. But I heard some news from other pro players that they encounter some internet connection issues because we all know that the ping and internet speed can affect the game of all players. I also hope that people will start to like Esports as well and considered it as real and challenging game like others.
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May 21, 2022, 10:57:53 PM
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Last day of the SEA games today and for Indonesians and Filipino users in this forum, we have a great game today. This will serve as the game for the gold medal because both teams have 0 loses and whoever comes out on top of the standings will get the gold medal, no championship game for this format.

Indonesia is fast catching up on the Philippines in this sport and for today's game, i think the latter looks vulnerable as Gilas don't have a solid lineup so what do you think guys?

But I think the Philippines can still win the gold here. I do agree that it might be one of the worst delegates they sent in this game, nevertheless they are still looking good in this Sea games.

I agree though that Indonesia is fast catching up as far as basketball is concern in Southeast Asia but then again, Philippines is not sending it's full force here.
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May 21, 2022, 10:58:22 PM
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I've just seen an update about this Sea games that it has included some esports games. I'm happy to see that there's a huge progress on the esports community and before this was just a taboo.

But look, it's part of the Sea games and will be part of it again for the next games.

As for these esports, one more thing to hope for is to be recognized on the Olympics.

esports is indeed gaining interest from the sports community. at least, this younger gen will have very good reason why they are into the gaming industry. it is like a profession already and not just like a side hobby.
we maybe seeing more and more of this in the next olympics as we have seen it in the 2021 summer olympics.

Last day of the SEA games today and for Indonesians and Filipino users in this forum, we have a great game today. This will serve as the game for the gold medal because both teams have 0 loses and whoever comes out on top of the standings will get the gold medal, no championship game for this format.

Indonesia is fast catching up on the Philippines in this sport and for today's game, i think the latter looks vulnerable as Gilas don't have a solid lineup so what do you think guys?

But I think the Philippines can still win the gold here. I do agree that it might be one of the worst delegates they sent in this game, nevertheless they are still looking good in this Sea games.

I agree though that Indonesia is fast catching up as far as basketball is concern in Southeast Asia but then again, Philippines is not sending it's full force here.

i am betting on PH here. they may not be the good lineup but they have the edge in my opinion. the odds are of course in favour of PH. but they should not take for granted the power of indonesia inside the court.

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May 21, 2022, 11:44:44 PM
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^ I'm not an avid fan/player of MLBB but congrats to all the organizations who pushed it to be added to the SEA Games. I didn't know it was already part of the event until two days ago. I won't be surprised to see top NFT games to be included in the next ten years.

Philippines will take the Gold but I'm not comfortable with the odds for moneyline and the point spread.
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May 22, 2022, 07:29:03 AM
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So Philippines is gunning for its' 14 straight gold in Men's basketball?

That's a huge accomplishment already, but I guess they wanted to extend the records and get that 15th straight. The team looks solid as I check their previous win, although of course they can't underestimate Indonesia as they want to break that dominating win by the Philippines in basketball.

The handicap for the Philippines is -12.5 right now, for those who are interested to bet.

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May 22, 2022, 08:00:13 AM
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So Philippines is gunning for its' 14 straight gold in Men's basketball?

That's a huge accomplishment already, but I guess they wanted to extend the records and get that 15th straight. The team looks solid as I check their previous win, although of course they can't underestimate Indonesia as they want to break that dominating win by the Philippines in basketball.

The handicap for the Philippines is -12.5 right now, for those who are interested to bet.

I'm going to bet for this game today but i'll do live betting as for me that 12.5 handicap is a huge number considering that Marques Bolden will be playing today, he has the height to limit the offense of Junemar Fajardo which I think will be the match-up to watch out for in this game.

Gilas doesn't have the reliable shooters that it usually has in an international tournament but we will see in this game if Matthew Wright will finally come out on his shell.
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May 22, 2022, 10:50:44 AM
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I've just seen an update about this Sea games that it has included some esports games. I'm happy to see that there's a huge progress on the esports community and before this was just a taboo.

But look, it's part of the Sea games and will be part of it again for the next games.

As for these esports, one more thing to hope for is to be recognized on the Olympics.

Yep and I am very proud that most of the Egames they played, PH tops among other countries. But I heard some news from other pro players that they encounter some internet connection issues because we all know that the ping and internet speed can affect the game of all players. I also hope that people will start to like Esports as well and considered it as real and challenging game like others.
I'm not sure about that.

But what I've heard is that Vietnam has chosen those esports where they're very competitive and some other esports are not included. Other than that, this sea games really rocks.

More to come for the esports community and acceptance is now becoming wide due to the competitive market by the esports.

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Look at Cambodia, currently having the worst standing right? But surely, they will top the medal tally next SEA Games as the host country.
not really, in the last 2015 SEA Games which was held in Singapore, Singapore placed second in the medal tally with 84 gold and Thailand taking the leading spot with 95 gold. so, being the Host country for SEA Games doesn't mean they'll dominate the competition. that being said, they'll the advantage since they can pick what sports they can add on which they can dominate.
Second place is still a nice spot. That really shows that being a host country can do wonders. The explanation can be is that they are more confident if they are playing within their country and on their country there are many people that will support them as when compare to when they travel on their countries. Didn't knew that a host country can pick their own games, I thought there are other people that manages these things but thanks for the info there.

To host or not, every country's performance will still depend on their determination to win and on how hard they practice. There is no guarantee that Cambodia will top next event but maybe they will? Because they will take this failure as a motivation to push their selves more.

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