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Title: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Husires on May 22, 2022, 11:39:57 AM
We started reading more reports that talk about the possibility of a global food crisis, especially in poor countries.

  • https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/05/18/world-bank-announces-planned-actions-for-global-food-crisis-response
  • https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/22/britain-slashes-humanitarian-aid-by-51-despite-global-food-crisis
  • https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/food-crisis-ukraine-war-1.6460194
  • https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61503049

Supply chain problems, war, inflation, fertilizers will set fire to the already high food prices.

What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: hyudien on May 22, 2022, 12:15:29 PM
Reduce excessive lifestyle and still use finances in moderation. Stock up on investing in Bitcoin and real estate for the long term. In this case, Bitcoin will be quite important as a support for anticipating a definite financial crisis when a food source crisis will have an impact on inflation which will experience a sharp decline. Avoid mass chaos as much as possible and do not get involved in certain political interests.


When a country like America experiences a crisis, of course we will surely see the impact of the invasion of other countries. Absorb the natural resource needs of developing countries down and beat them to maintain America's economic stability. Although to be honest this sentence is more appropriate for China, which is often at the forefront of invasions of natural resources than the US.

Turning to a Middle Eastern country with limited oil supplies, raising the price per barrel is one of the surefire strategies that has allowed it to survive the global crisis.


The question is: will it really happen and hit the average economy of every country?


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: kryptqnick on May 22, 2022, 12:59:14 PM
The food crisis is happening because of Russia's war against Ukraine, and currently the most pressing matter is that a lot of grain is blocked in Ukrainians ports in the Black Sea by Russia, so it just can't reach its destination, reach those who most need it. So if there's anything an average Joe can do to stop the war, they should (protests against the war, against the Black Sea blockade, against trading with Russia). Also, if we're talking about middle-class people, they aren't the ones who'll be hit by the crisis the most. But still, if it's possible to afford it, I'd stock up on flour, dry pasta, yeast (to bake the bread if there's none), non-perishable goods. Not much, no need to go crazy, but just some of it in case there's a severe food shortage and you need to survive.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: CaVO32 on May 22, 2022, 01:09:28 PM
Tend your own garden if you have space, even set-up a hydroponics outside your terrace. Some people can optimize their space and plant whatever they need. Start evaluating your lifestyle. As hyudien said, reduce excessive lifestyle. Some people are just wasting food inside their fridge. Better buy some long-lasting stocks like fluor, corn starch, dried beans, rice, canned goods and others. If you feel some of your foods are just going to the trash bin, better change your menu and look for more long term food stocks.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: mk4 on May 22, 2022, 01:37:30 PM
I'm not a food crisis expert, but on the top of my head:

1. Buy a good amount of preserved goods. Canned goods that has years before expiration, and the like. Don't over-hoard though, don't forget that other people need food too!

2. Try planting food that is quite low maintenance and that grows quickly. Afaik spinach and carrots grow decently fast enough. Also probably buy a few hens? I don't know crap about farming eggs tho.

3. Do as much as you can to increase your income, and stop spending money on trivial stuff for now.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Lucius on May 22, 2022, 03:18:32 PM
What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?

If you live in the city and have no opportunity to produce your own food, you have only two options - to come to terms with the situation and start buying less expensive food in smaller quantities. Another option is to consider relocating to a place where food can be grown, which would mean relocating to a smaller urban area. This has its advantages, not only because of the production of your own food, but also because of a healthier life due to less pollution and less life stress.



1. Buy a good amount of preserved goods. Canned goods that has years before expiration, and the like. Don't over-hoard though, don't forget that other people need food too!

Cans are very common for food storage, but like plastic they have one very negative feature - they contaminate food with BPA (bisphenol A) (https://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/29/health/canned-foods-bpa-risk/index.html). This is not something we do not know, but it should be borne in mind that such packaging is harmful and poisons food, although producers do not care about it, and the authorities are not too interested in tackling this problem. An ordinary person will always choose not to be hungry, no matter how unhealthy the food is.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: niceli on May 22, 2022, 03:36:23 PM
Lets be honest, we are not going to do anything at all. Pandemic was rampant and there were people who didn't do anything regarding the pandemic as well. Millions of people all around the world, and not just in one place, all ended up ignoring everything regarding pandemic, many died. If people are seeing that clear threat and ignore it, then what makes you think that they will care about food crisis before it happens. I guarantee you that I can find a person who will say that a food crisis is not coming at all. All in all I will end up with something that none of us will be ready enough and the whole world will suffer very soon and will be unprepared.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: YOSHIE on May 22, 2022, 04:42:01 PM
or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?
Global food threats have become a serious concern of the world including the United Nations, if you want to do an agricultural strategy that is the best step and many countries and research suggest agriculture.
In some cases producing land, livestock and fish farming could potentially yield substantial economic benefits and could overcome the food crisis, in the management of agricultural land in the next 2-4 years can produce such as: green beans, soybeans, sorghum, millet, rice, wheat, cassava, corn and many others, all of this income can be saved in the long term to cover the food crisis.



In other methods can also be done to overcome the global food crisis.
For example:
Carry out energy-saving methods while planting trees that are useful for the sustainability of human life and methods of maintaining cleanliness and not littering, that waste can hamper agricultural production, if the waste contains toxic elements, most of the water for agriculture is taken from rivers that flow into agricultural land.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: mm2543363580 on May 22, 2022, 05:24:23 PM
Go grow your own food little joe. grow mushroom in your store room and grow vegies in your balcony. Use lesser water and do rainwater harvesting in your home. what else you can do. Don't waste food. It will be helpful for others
Yes - that is a very good suggestion. I once met a group who was working on edible organic garden franchise in the world around.
That was one perfect project to get rid of inorganic food - they prefered to have your food grown and make the earning through that garden. Wonderful project it was.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Hydrogen on May 22, 2022, 11:04:11 PM
I think chickens might be a good option. They can feed on termites, insects and other random things found in the environment. And produce a decent number of eggs every week. They bypass current issues with inflating costs of natural gas and fertilizer. With a good amount of productivity and short term returns for little effort and knowledge base. Chicken populations might grow and scale quickly enough to fill gaps left behind by other food sources.

People may have to abandon cities to migrate to more rural areas where self sufficiency is a more achievable goal.

Keeping milk cows, milk goats and other livestock could be other options. But I do not think that we have the population numbers necessary for that to scale. Or that those population numbers be reached quickly enough to make a difference.

There are some who claim microgreens and sprouts can be used as a food source quickly although I'm not certain how sustainable that is.

Plants and crops might be other options. But I think the shortest turnaround for that is around 90 days with potatos and tomatos.

The value of seeds could inflate if demand rises. Although I do not know if many would pursue that option.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: uneng on May 23, 2022, 12:48:32 AM
It's not easy to run an animals or crops farm. It requires a lot of spare time, effort and care from the farmer. You need to work all day long to earn too little in return, because it's not only about planting the seeds, watering them or feeding the chickens once in a day. You need to check everyday (probably more than once) the crops to see if there are any diseases or parasites attacking it, you need to clean the chickens' spots, water and food trough, because it becomes dirty really fast, you need a very strict routine to not miss any daily task.

For most people it's not practicable, especially for those used to the life in the cities.

What people can do is to invest in a countryside property and rent it for now to local farmers or something like that. And if someday a chaotic crisis starts and food supplies become low and expensive, their jobs stop being profitable, they have already a plan B in mind, that is to live in the countryside full-time, producing their own basic goods to survive. It looks romanticized, but in fact it's a harsh life or better saying, a survival experiment.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: gweb1996 on May 23, 2022, 01:33:34 AM
We started reading more reports that talk about the possibility of a global food crisis, especially in poor countries.

  • https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/05/18/world-bank-announces-planned-actions-for-global-food-crisis-response
  • https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/22/britain-slashes-humanitarian-aid-by-51-despite-global-food-crisis
  • https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/food-crisis-ukraine-war-1.6460194
  • https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61503049

Supply chain problems, war, inflation, fertilizers will set fire to the already high food prices.

What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?

Survival hunger tips

1.Eat horse / donkey meat
2.Find out when humanitarian aids are coming in town
3.Snakes taste like chicken
4.Chew rubber / chewing gum helps with the hunger
5.If your a beautiful women don't worry you will survive
6.Better to hang yourself then to eat human flesh
7.Process food from garbage ,boil it and reuse it
8.Parks ,roads ,forests etc have trees with  fruits and eatable plants
9.Some Insects are eatable ( grasshoppers ,some ants,crickets,flower maggots,silkworms ) ,fry them before you eat them
10.If the chicken gives eggs don't eat the chicken,if she does not give eggs you can eat it
11.If 2 birds (male/femele) are in a confined space they will lay eggs
12.If you have free space with sun ,use it to plant veggies...no matter where the space is ( balcony )
13.Pumpkins are eatable
14.Cereals can be expanded ( similar to popcorn )
15.If you don't use it preserve it ( in salt,in vinegar,smoke it ,can it,dry it)
16.Never eat raw animals / insects
17.Dog and cat food i heard it has a good taste
18.Oat cereal is cheap
19.Don't throw away pasta wate ,reuse it ( it has starch in it )
20.Spicy plants you can make them in to pesto sauce for pasta / noddles
21.Process left overs or preserve it  ( ex: milk 3.5% can be turned in to cheese )
22.Eat lard with bread
23.Avoid using your energy for useless stuff
24.Rice / Bananas / Peanut butter / Honey / Chocolate with high content coconut butter  are superfoods
25.Eat corn porridge with lard and onion
26.Drink beer ,wine ,beer is a food
27.In some parts of the world rats are considered a delicacy
28.Eat cats and dogs
29.Drink tea with hard tacks
30.Mushrooms grow easy if they have humidity and nutrients
31.Algae grows easy in salt water
32.Pasta takes a long time to expire
33.Drink cow blood with milk , sting the cow to get the blood but don't kill it
34.Use condensation to drink water from your urine or animal urine.
35.Eat garden snails they are called Escargot or frog legs
36.There are eatable plants that you consider them weeds ( mostly in places where food is abundance,example most french don't eat corn ,they use it as animal feed )
37.Eat digested seeds from animal dung ( example Bear Grylls )
38.Eat the seeds from brooms
39.Hunt or fish even if they tell you it's not allowed ( it's survival ,your not hunting for fun )
40.If you can freeze meat bellow - 40 degrees celsius it will last a very long time in the freezer ( never refreeze meat )
41.Brake a window ( make sure there are cameras around ),beat the politician that got you in to this mess or a cop,and hope they arrest you and sent you in jail ( 3 meals per day free + free health insurance )

Be human and live with dignity until the end ( don't eat your kid ... in some places ,like Russian famine or ancient times they did that )


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Darker45 on May 23, 2022, 01:54:07 AM
The average person cannot contribute to solving the problem by simply buying. Neither will hoarding or even increasing his/her purchasing capacity address the problem, unless the only cause of the crisis is inflation.

But since there are a number of causes, there should be a number of approaches also. Supply chain problems, war, rising prices of fertilizers and other related products need different solutions.

In my country, there is a need for the government to put more focus and priority and funds, too, on agriculture and food production. Strengthening local agriculture is the key. Decreasing dependence on imported fertilizers will help. Subsidizing farmers is also needed. Fighting against ruthless middlemen is also important.

To the average person, however, little efforts as planting and raising their own food is of much help. Make every idle piece of land productive in some way. This will make us less dependent on the market which will hopefully lower down the demand and therefore price. In the long run, this might even significantly bring down the demand to import. The local produce might suffice. It would also help if we stop being wasteful.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on May 23, 2022, 02:12:13 AM
Well I still have farm land in some provinces so I will just continue what I'm doing for the last 10 years, take advantage of it.

It's a combination of rice (staple food for us Asians), and other veggies. And as I have said, it keeps me going and happy to make money out of it and then have some for you throughout the year in the table for your family. And perhaps I was just lucky to invest on it when I have the money and developed it as a business.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: adaseb on May 23, 2022, 03:14:12 AM
Right now, in my country at least I don’t see a food shortage.

However I can see all these “food shortage” warnings all over the place are going to start a shortage when there might not be one like with toilet paper.

Here in Canada we didn’t have a baby formula shortage. However with all the US scares, I see people buying them in bulk. And stores had to finally start to limit the purchases.

The same will happen with many canned goods and products like rice with all these headlines.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Kakmakr on May 23, 2022, 06:14:34 AM
The same principle applies to the global food crisis as any other business that were influenced by the war or even Covid-19, namely :

Pivoting

A pivot means fundamentally changing the direction of a business when you realize the current products or services aren't meeting the needs.

In World War I&II .... large manufacturing companies pivoted their business models to stay in business. Factories that manufactured cars, started to manufacture vehicles for the army or ammunition for the war.

People should see the possibility in every crisis and they should pivot their business to adapt to the changing needs. (Food and Water should be their main focus now)  ;)  


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on May 23, 2022, 06:48:46 AM
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price?
Stockpiling food isn't a bad idea for people in countries that might be the most affected by a possible food shortage (and damned if I know exactly which countries those are), but if everyone started doing that all at once it might be more of a problem.  When COVID hit, it seemed like everything was flying off the shelves--and that was before the supply chain issues hit.  I remember the cat food aisle being almost bare two years ago, so when panic buying happens it leaves a lot of people without the things they need.

Farming is a great idea, but the problem is that not everyone can do it, either because they don't have enough land or knowledge or money to invest in setting up a garden.  There are a lot of very poor people in the word, you know.  And I have a feeling that they're the ones who'll be the hardest hit if there comes a food shortage.

That's a big "if".  In the US it seems like there's plenty of food to go around, and the government is one of the ones that helps out other countries when they get hit by disasters (never mind all the horrible things they otherwise do).  But who knows?  I could be one of the people planting tomatoes and living off of salad until the world re-equilibrates.  I hope it doesn't come to that, but these days nothing is off the table as far as possibilities.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Reid on May 23, 2022, 06:57:39 AM
A change in lifestyle would be the better cure.
If before you eat chips while watching a movie or Netflix at home then try just drinking water. Lots of it.  :D
I am the one buying groceries for the family and of course I know the prices of everything. From cooking oil (20% up) to biscuits and snacks for the kids, every price is written in my memory and I can feel how sudden the price changes are.
Not wasting food also saves you some money and whatever can be repaired should be done so to avoid buying something new.
We will be going back old school.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Poker Player on May 23, 2022, 07:00:45 AM
Looking at some of the responses, I think you are talking more about a Mad Max type scenario than food shortages.

If we had a moderate food shortage scenario, nothing would happen. Just that some products would no longer be available and others would be less in quantity, so the price would go up. But people would be able to eat.

If we were to reach an extreme situation where there was no food available in supermarkets, having stockpiled a couple of months' worth of food could help, as could having a plot of land with chickens and being able to plant something.

But in that scenario, apart from the lack of food, we would have to take into account the insecurity: if you go to the country with your chickens and plant tomatoes, make sure you have a shotgun too because you will be an easy target for thieves.





Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: blockman on May 23, 2022, 07:09:26 AM
What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?
All of this, once an announcement is sudden and the government tells the media that there's a food shortage in your local area, there's a panic buying and prices of food and goods will also increase due to the demand. At that time, cash is king, and make sure that you have enough budget for it that's really to be spent for the food and survival. And, what I did years ago, I've bought around a thousand square feet of lot just for any plan that I might do. My parents planted some herbs and vegetables there and we're just picking them up at any time we want to eat.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Lucius on May 23, 2022, 08:01:34 AM
I think chickens might be a good option. They can feed on termites, insects and other random things found in the environment. And produce a decent number of eggs every week.

You need space to keep chickens, this is by no means something you can do in cities, and in my specific case keeping anything other than pets is prohibited by law. Furthermore, chickens will certainly not be very productive in laying eggs if they are not provided with additional nutrition, which means that you need at least corn and grain as additional nutrition.

What may still be a problem are the diseases that prevail among birds, and if you keep chickens outdoors they are exposed to bird flu. So while it may seem easy, from the experience of some people I know personally, not everything is as simple as it seems.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: sayaya17 on May 23, 2022, 08:50:36 AM
We started reading more reports that talk about the possibility of a global food crisis, especially in poor countries.

  • https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/05/18/world-bank-announces-planned-actions-for-global-food-crisis-response
  • https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/22/britain-slashes-humanitarian-aid-by-51-despite-global-food-crisis
  • https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/food-crisis-ukraine-war-1.6460194
  • https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61503049

Supply chain problems, war, inflation, fertilizers will set fire to the already high food prices.

What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?

I live in a country where people still find it difficult to buy food, in addition to the ever-increasing price of food. The problem is finding a job
nowadays is getting more and more difficult, especially with the pandemic, many companies in my country are  reducing their employees.
This ultimately makes the crime rate increase, because many people are looking for ways to survive, even if the way is against the law.

Regarding your question for the average middle class person how do they fulfill their basic needs to buy food. Usually for people who have
a large enough land, of course they choose farming and gardening, in addition to being able to meet their daily food needs. If there is still
some left over from the harvest, we can usually sell it to the market to make money. But for me who lives in a big city, where land prices
are very expensive, so it is not possible to buy land for farming and gardening. Then hoarding food in large quantities is not a good solution,
because often hoarding too much food, will only make the quality of the food decrease. The most effective way is that we use technology to
make money, so we can buy food at any price.

If we are diligent in digging for information on the internet, there are lots of opportunities to be able to make money. So I think it's better to
work hard to earn money, so we can buy food, and I've also learned not to over-buy food. So that the money we make doesn't all go to food,
and we can still invest in crypto for our retirement plans.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: cabron on May 23, 2022, 09:17:33 AM
We started reading more reports that talk about the possibility of a global food crisis, especially in poor countries.

  • https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/05/18/world-bank-announces-planned-actions-for-global-food-crisis-response
  • https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/22/britain-slashes-humanitarian-aid-by-51-despite-global-food-crisis
  • https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/food-crisis-ukraine-war-1.6460194
  • https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61503049

Supply chain problems, war, inflation, fertilizers will set fire to the already high food prices.

What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?

I live in a country where people still find it difficult to buy food, in addition to the ever-increasing price of food. The problem is finding a job
nowadays is getting more and more difficult, especially with the pandemic, many companies in my country are  reducing their employees.
This ultimately makes the crime rate increase, because many people are looking for ways to survive, even if the way is against the law.

Regarding your question for the average middle class person how do they fulfill their basic needs to buy food. Usually for people who have
a large enough land, of course they choose farming and gardening, in addition to being able to meet their daily food needs. If there is still
some left over from the harvest, we can usually sell it to the market to make money. But for me who lives in a big city, where land prices
are very expensive, so it is not possible to buy land for farming and gardening. Then hoarding food in large quantities is not a good solution,
because often hoarding too much food, will only make the quality of the food decrease. The most effective way is that we use technology to
make money, so we can buy food at any price.

If we are diligent in digging for information on the internet, there are lots of opportunities to be able to make money. So I think it's better to
work hard to earn money, so we can buy food, and I've also learned not to over-buy food. So that the money we make doesn't all go to food,
and we can still invest in crypto for our retirement plans.

Hoarding food will only be possible if you have a cold storage. But having dried goods will  be an option for everybody like dried fish, dried meat and there are even people storing dried fruits. I would probably do the same which I would keep a lot of peanut butter and dried products.

Its  easier to survive with food storage some will just cook very minimum like cooking porridge everyday from the sacks of uncooked rice you store. An average Joe I guess must learn to eat peasant's food as such.



Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: stompix on May 23, 2022, 09:29:24 AM
It's not easy to run an animals or crops farm. It requires a lot of spare time, effort and care from the farmer. You need to work all day long to earn too little in return, because it's not only about planting the seeds, watering them or feeding the chickens once in a day. You need to check everyday (probably more than once) the crops to see if there are any diseases or parasites attacking it, you need to clean the chickens' spots, water and food trough, because it becomes dirty really fast, you need a very strict routine to not miss any daily task.

Some simply don't get it.
Let's take cows, for example, they don't care about anything, they don't care about summer or wintertime, they don't care about the rain outside, they won't give a damn yesterday was your birthday, they don't care it's Xmas, easter, your wedding, as soon as the sun starts to rise they will start a tantrum in the shed nobody will be able to sleep around. It's training, it's cold, you're sick, no, you have to go and bring them fresh water and straws, you can't imagine the noise if you ignore piglets or you're going to have the shock of your life seeing your chickens with half of their feathers left if you left them caged in.
I wouldn't want to go back to living on a  farm even with the current technology, we have automated gates and feeders I can control from the house, but those mean money, a ton of money.

It looks romanticized, but in fact it's a harsh life or better saying, a survival experiment.

And, the shit! The tons of tons of animal shit you have to clean, every day from the floor, from the alls, even from their feeding through, tons of it in all color and density. How would this look in real life, famine, famine after famine as we go back closer to a hunter-gather civilization!
If this shit would have worked we wouldn't have famine in the poorest countries of the world where everyone lives on agriculture, but surprise, it doesn't work like that.

People may have to abandon cities to migrate to more rural areas where self sufficiency is a more achievable goal.
 

Then why in every famine known to men people are fleeing to the cities and not the other way around? It's still the same even now
https://www.globalhungerindex.org/issues-in-focus/2018.html
As I said, there is fantasy and there is reality!




Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: dezoel on May 23, 2022, 11:52:16 AM
The idea of buying and storing food is not bad, but it’s not like it would never finish, so what happens after the food finishes? It’s not like if you buy and store food it’s going to last forever, so when the food finishes, you are still going to buy at the current rate that those food stuffs are being sold.

So that really doesn’t change much, but I would say that the good thing about buying food to store is that you would buy them in buck, and that would possibly reduce the price a bit, because when you buy in large quantities, sellers would give you some kind of discounts. So, the best thing here would be on working on your means of income and also investing, so that he would be able to buy at any rate.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Alisha-k on May 23, 2022, 11:53:36 AM
The negligence on agriculture is what could result to this global food crisis. So far agriculture has been replaced with oil & gas alongside metal investment. It's of recent crypto came into the picture. Encouraging agriculture on a commercial base is the only way to curb the food crisis or make some sort of compulsory memorandum that will ensure every plants something no matter their profession


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: LogitechMouse on May 23, 2022, 12:31:10 PM
I don't know if these will work, but I think this might help to average JOE's there like me.

Never mind the wants and focus more on needs. Let's focus more on the things that we need like food and not buy the things that we want. Buying foods that will take a long time to expire might help as well. Being practical will help too since we need to budget our money especially us average and poor people, in order to have some money to be used on buying food. Having a different mindset of focusing more on needs rather than the wants. Planting some vegetables in our backyard will help.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Sebas.tian on May 23, 2022, 02:24:48 PM
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Go grow your own food little joe. grow mushroom in your store room and grow vegies in your balcony. Use lesser water and do rainwater harvesting in your home. what else you can do. Don't waste food. It will be helpful for others

Exactly, it will really help people to overcome food crisis in their environment, if they will be able to follow the procedure farmers used to preserved their crops for long period of time. Am into peasant farming with the little money I made from crypto investment few months ago which will really help me to make more food available for my family to enjoy. I think many people will like to embrace this advise to avoid food crisis in their country by going into peasant farming to make food stuffs available for their family consumption. 


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: mm2543363580 on May 23, 2022, 06:42:27 PM
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Go grow your own food little joe. grow mushroom in your store room and grow vegies in your balcony. Use lesser water and do rainwater harvesting in your home. what else you can do. Don't waste food. It will be helpful for others

Exactly, it will really help people to overcome food crisis in their environment, if they will be able to follow the procedure farmers used to preserved their crops for long period of time. Am into peasant farming with the little money I made from crypto investment few months ago which will really help me to make more food available for my family to enjoy. I think many people will like to embrace this advise to avoid food crisis in their country by going into peasant farming to make food stuffs available for their family consumption. 
Joe can help in his little space - he can grow his food. Share food with the other.
promote organic and natural stuff. Also - as mentioned above by saving water and doing a little waste can be very helpful to the joe as well as for the planet.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: romero121 on May 23, 2022, 07:02:43 PM
I don't know if these will work, but I think this might help to average JOE's there like me.

Never mind the wants and focus more on needs. Let's focus more on the things that we need like food and not buy the things that we want. Buying foods that will take a long time to expire might help as well. Being practical will help too since we need to budget our money especially us average and poor people, in order to have some money to be used on buying food. Having a different mindset of focusing more on needs rather than the wants. Planting some vegetables in our backyard will help.
Limiting the unwanted expenses and buying foods that will last for longer time period is the good solution. Many people are used to specific food habit, and they should look for the alternate. Right now the main focus should be on food to survive and not on costly and tasty ones. In the short term it is impossible to grow crops. Understanding the time it is good to sow some seeds of different vegetables like spinach.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Theones on May 23, 2022, 07:52:21 PM
I don't know if these will work, but I think this might help to average JOE's there like me.

Never mind the wants and focus more on needs. Let's focus more on the things that we need like food and not buy the things that we want. Buying foods that will take a long time to expire might help as well. Being practical will help too since we need to budget our money especially us average and poor people, in order to have some money to be used on buying food. Having a different mindset of focusing more on needs rather than the wants. Planting some vegetables in our backyard will help.
Limiting the unwanted expenses and buying foods that will last for longer time period is the good solution. Many people are used to specific food habit, and they should look for the alternate. Right now the main focus should be on food to survive and not on costly and tasty ones. In the short term it is impossible to grow crops. Understanding the time it is good to sow some seeds of different vegetables like spinach.
Yes. that is so true - we have increased our resources so much that we face unnecessary trouble.
Good food, limited stuff, limited gossips, cutting off with toxic people are a few things an averge Joe can do to save himself and the other.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: istiak2277 on May 23, 2022, 07:54:08 PM
The best you can do is farm if you have enough land to do that. But if you are living in a city, then the best you can do is store dry food for the long term. However, there are foods that can be grown inside your apartment or on the rooftop. Extra food should be stored with the right procedure so that it can be eatable after a long time. Using ancient methods to store food would be good then.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: KingsDen on May 23, 2022, 08:18:18 PM
What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?
An average middle-class person who leaves in average environment(not urban main town  but area with availability of land with less expensive price) can survive by producing 80% of what he uses as food. It is very possible.

I vividly remember my childhood experience when my family will travel to the village to spend the Christmas period. I discovered that the villagers enjoy everything for free, I mean for free.
1. My grandfather will also go fishing and hunting. If he doesn't capture an animal, fish is compulsory, will get it. So the fish and meats my grandma uses for food are never bought.
2. Grandma plants all kinds of vegetables at her backyard. So she only buys salt for food as all other ingredients for food is produced by her.
3. There are fruit trees of different type in the compound.
I meant everything was free and I wished never to return to the city. But every January I would be forcefully taken back to the city against my wish.

When covid-19 started, I was first to rush back to a free home and behold there was no effect of covid-19 in that beautiful city. So, a low class citizen living in a freedom home is already protected against food scarcity.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: justdimin on May 24, 2022, 08:35:49 AM
I don't know if these will work, but I think this might help to average JOE's there like me.

Never mind the wants and focus more on needs. Let's focus more on the things that we need like food and not buy the things that we want. Buying foods that will take a long time to expire might help as well. Being practical will help too since we need to budget our money especially us average and poor people, in order to have some money to be used on buying food. Having a different mindset of focusing more on needs rather than the wants. Planting some vegetables in our backyard will help.
More than just "will they work" but it's more like billions won't do anything about it. We are going to go straight into a food crisis, it's going to be a terrible thing in the near future and nobody will do anything to neither prevent it nor be ready for it. Sure there will be "some" people who will get these type of preventions but at the same time we are talking about something that will be rarely done hence why it will not be a big number.

So, the best thing you could do would be to make sure you are doing much better in financial sense, hence when the prices of food increases, we could afford it, even if they are very expensive.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: wiss19 on May 25, 2022, 06:28:10 PM
This is bad but thanks for the early warning. Poor people should act now and do what they can possibly do in order for them to survive the upcoming food crisis. Yes it's fine to buy food supplies now because they are still cheap but I think this will only apply to the supplies that doesn't expire easily because we don't know if how long the crisis will last or when it will start.

For the vegetables, we cant buy them in advance and stock them in the shelves for a long time because they can go bad easily so yes the only way is to plant them yourself in your own backyard. We can also sell them apart from using it on our own. That should give us some extra money.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Fortify on May 25, 2022, 07:37:09 PM
We started reading more reports that talk about the possibility of a global food crisis, especially in poor countries.

Supply chain problems, war, inflation, fertilizers will set fire to the already high food prices.

What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?

It's worth considering the audience or who is actually writing the response for it to be relevant. I have seen numerous studies in the past that show that many countries in places like Europe and North America can have an extremely wasteful attitude when it comes to food. Over production is a huge thing and the amount of food that is thrown out every day by places like supermarkets is huge. A small factor in that is also the idea of an expiry date, which is generally a good idea for keeping food in a safe condition, but it definitely takes the most cautious view and consumers can be induced to throw out good food. Consumers should make a rational decision e.g. a block of cheese, which is essentially mould, that looks fine will most likely be safe for one or two extra days past expiry. Expiry dates are a great thing for manufacturing companies as it induces constant buying.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: palle11 on May 25, 2022, 07:57:57 PM
I think what the average person can do in this time of food crisis is to run into agriculture. Planting is a source of taking care of what would have been bought with money. A farmer always have variety of food to choose and eat from. The families of farmers always grow fat which is the evidence of good living. At least most farmers apart from taking their food from the farm, they also sell left overs to generate money for other things needed. This is a second option to what a farmer can do, to save and reinvest money in farming.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Hydrogen on May 25, 2022, 11:48:17 PM
I think chickens might be a good option. They can feed on termites, insects and other random things found in the environment. And produce a decent number of eggs every week.

You need space to keep chickens, this is by no means something you can do in cities, and in my specific case keeping anything other than pets is prohibited by law. Furthermore, chickens will certainly not be very productive in laying eggs if they are not provided with additional nutrition, which means that you need at least corn and grain as additional nutrition.

What may still be a problem are the diseases that prevail among birds, and if you keep chickens outdoors they are exposed to bird flu. So while it may seem easy, from the experience of some people I know personally, not everything is as simple as it seems.


Cats, dogs, rodents and pigeons can all be carriers of COVID afaik.

There isn't an elevated risk of contracting COVID or other illness from chickens, in contrast to other domesticated mammals.

Have you ever heard of creative financing?  I'll make up a new thing right here called creative chicken keeping. It involves city dwellers forming creative relationships with those who live in rural areas in city outskirts nearby to keep, feed and house their chickens at affordable prices!

I'll say this. I always thought farming was difficult and back breaking work where specialized knowledge was necessary. But as I learn more, I'm beginning to realize its not as hard as I thought it was. I think others could have a similar experience if they tried.


People may have to abandon cities to migrate to more rural areas where self sufficiency is a more achievable goal.
 

Then why in every famine known to men people are fleeing to the cities and not the other way around? It's still the same even now
https://www.globalhungerindex.org/issues-in-focus/2018.html
As I said, there is fantasy and there is reality!


Begging in the streets is the advantage of cities.

In traditional terms, cities also had better job options for entry level personnel. Easier access to surplus food. And easier access to assets for potential theft.

But things have changed a little. The permaculture off grid movement is gaining traction.

Cities no longer cater to the poor the way they did in past eras. In many cities its illegal to feed the homeless. Park benches have anti homeless deterrents built into them.

The homeless can no longer expect cities to feed and cloth them as generously as they did in past eras of history.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Crypt0S0ul on May 26, 2022, 01:23:05 AM
I want to say to those who suggest not to expense your money on less important things and offer storing foods. I don't think it can be the solution.

Everyone cannot contribute in this matter at this moment. Since it comes to the global food crisis, Even with the high price, You will be unable to buy food because if there is no food, How you will buy them? It's as if there is no food at all. But, If there is less food but expensive, In this case, Poor people will suffer from this.

If everyone steps up, It's possible to defend against the food crisis.

If you live in a village side, Start farming whatever you can. If you can farm rice, Do it. If you can vegetables, Do it. Start Saving Money.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: philipma1957 on May 26, 2022, 01:31:00 AM
canning with mason jars is pretty easy.

I do a few bushels of tomatoes for sauce.

Learn to dry meat into beef jerky. both beef jerky and mason jarred tomato will last a long time.

get a quality water filter and filter the water boil it and can it in mason jars.

Get dry beans. store in metal bento boxes.

get rice. store in metal bento boxes.

I can do all of the above for under $500 usd. I would have supplies for a few months  if I did it.

learn to make varied meals from above. you will need some basic spices.

Make sure you have at least 2 guns or shotguns with ammo for self defense or suicide if things get truly stupid.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: savetheFORUM on May 26, 2022, 08:25:25 AM
I'm not a food crisis expert, but on the top of my head:

1. Buy a good amount of preserved goods. Canned goods that has years before expiration, and the like. Don't over-hoard though, don't forget that other people need food too!

2. Try planting food that is quite low maintenance and that grows quickly. Afaik spinach and carrots grow decently fast enough. Also probably buy a few hens? I don't know crap about farming eggs tho.

3. Do as much as you can to increase your income, and stop spending money on trivial stuff for now.
It’s good to learn how to save money in such a situation, you shouldn’t be spending too much on a lot of things, because when you do, you would lack money to buy the most important things which you are going to need. Then like you have said, planting food is also a really good idea, because when you plant food, you would get to have food for you to eat and wouldn’t have to be going out to spend money on buying those stuffs.  Buying preserved food also seems like a good idea too, though not so much to me.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Oasisman on May 26, 2022, 11:02:52 AM
What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?

What came in to my head first is to invest  more fund to create a huge backyard farm or buy an isolated land where you can have your own farm. This will help you in the long run with the continued rise of food prices in the market. Having your own live stocks, crops, and some sort of plant/spices that's essential with everyday cooking will save you a lot of money.
You could even start your own business importing these food products in your local market eventually.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Lucius on May 26, 2022, 01:08:17 PM
Make sure you have at least 2 guns or shotguns with ammo for self defense or suicide if things get truly stupid.

This is advice that is applicable in the US where I guess any child can buy a firearm and then commit a massacre because he had bad grades in school. I can tell you that if I want to own a firearm legally in the EU, I have to go through a very complicated multi-level screening process, and that includes personal interviews with all my neighbors to assess whether I am crazy, dangerous, or something else.

If people committed suicide just because their things became truly stupid then few would survive various crises and challenges. Fortunately, we are not all crazy about guns...


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: traderethereum on May 26, 2022, 01:28:02 PM
Most middle-class people only think about how they can eat the next day and how to survive.
Those people could not buy more food because of the limited money they had so they could only afford food for today.
For the next day, they will still try to fulfil their needs by working anything so that they can have money to survive.
Buying more food is not a solution for them because they have to think about how to store their food.
Besides that, the price of the land they have to buy is already very expensive.
They can only keep working and trying to earn money to buy their daily needs.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Dhaniii on May 26, 2022, 04:21:25 PM
it is very difficult to deal with a food crisis, especially in countries that are in war. many people starve and die because there is no food to eat. while for the middle class they may be able to save by buying dry food and storing it properly or can take advantage of existing natural resources such as managing land to produce food


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: justdimin on May 26, 2022, 08:09:59 PM
What came in to my head first is to invest  more fund to create a huge backyard farm or buy an isolated land where you can have your own farm. This will help you in the long run with the continued rise of food prices in the market. Having your own live stocks, crops, and some sort of plant/spices that's essential with everyday cooking will save you a lot of money.
You could even start your own business importing these food products in your local market eventually.
I would guess that it could work, if you know what you are doing then you do not even need land neither. You could build something in your home as well. Even one room would be enough to cover maybe like quarter of your food cost as well.

Not that you would have to raise it yourself, since the prices would go up, you would be selling it yourself and then you would be making a profit by selling them and pay expensive amount for whatever food you want with that profit. Hydroponics would allow you to have a small farm in your room, and if you leave one full room for it, it should be giving you a great return as well with the most efficient and optimum way as well.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: tippytoes on May 26, 2022, 08:15:30 PM
What came in to my head first is to invest  more fund to create a huge backyard farm or buy an isolated land where you can have your own farm. This will help you in the long run with the continued rise of food prices in the market. Having your own live stocks, crops, and some sort of plant/spices that's essential with everyday cooking will save you a lot of money.
You could even start your own business importing these food products in your local market eventually.
I would guess that it could work, if you know what you are doing then you do not even need land neither. You could build something in your home as well. Even one room would be enough to cover maybe like quarter of your food cost as well.

Not that you would have to raise it yourself, since the prices would go up, you would be selling it yourself and then you would be making a profit by selling them and pay expensive amount for whatever food you want with that profit. Hydroponics would allow you to have a small farm in your room, and if you leave one full room for it, it should be giving you a great return as well with the most efficient and optimum way as well.

This is what I am thinking also, you don't need big land to be at least self-sufficient. A small garden can already reduce some of your food expenses. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to tend one. It just needs a lil bit of hard work and once you set-up your garden, the maintenance would not be a burden as it may need only a lil bit of attention. At the end of the day, it is your willingness to explore what you have and not complain with everyday things.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: mm2543363580 on May 26, 2022, 09:14:50 PM

This is what I am thinking also, you don't need big land to be at least self-sufficient. A small garden can already reduce some of your food expenses. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to tend one. It just needs a lil bit of hard work and once you set-up your garden, the maintenance would not be a burden as it may need only a lil bit of attention. At the end of the day, it is your willingness to explore what you have and not complain with everyday things.
After reading the suggestions - what did average Joe decided to do.
I believe Joe can take care of the food, grow his food, save water. And make a minimalist approach towards life.
Less is more.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Shasha80 on May 26, 2022, 10:37:03 PM
Most middle-class people only think about how they can eat the next day and how to survive.
Those people could not buy more food because of the limited money they had so they could only afford food for today.
For the next day, they will still try to fulfil their needs by working anything so that they can have money to survive.
Buying more food is not a solution for them because they have to think about how to store their food.
Besides that, the price of the land they have to buy is already very expensive.
They can only keep working and trying to earn money to buy their daily needs.

Honestly, I'm one of those people who only work to fulfill my daily needs. Because the average income in my country is not large, so I can only
buy daily necessities from the income I get from working. Even I don't have money to go on vacation or buy luxury goods, my life is like
middle-class people in general. So when the price of daily necessities rises, all I can do is, of course, find ways to increase my income.

Fortunately, since getting to know crypto my economy has started to improve,  because there are many opportunities to be able to make money
from the crypto world. Now I don't have to worry about the increase in food prices, I can still buy food even though the price goes up, because
my income has increased. So the best solution is indeed we have to work hard by finding ways to make even more money with the increase
in food prices today. Moreover, information is very easy to get with easy internet access, I also got information about crypto and found out how to
make more money from the internet. So take advantage of technology to make our lives much better than before.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: serjent05 on May 26, 2022, 11:08:57 PM
The food crisis is happening because of Russia's war against Ukraine, and currently the most pressing matter is that a lot of grain is blocked in Ukrainians ports in the Black Sea by Russia, so it just can't reach its destination, reach those who most need it.

This might be true for those countries that rely on Ukraine for Food sources but it isn't true for those who are independent of it.

So if there's anything an average Joe can do to stop the war, they should (protests against the war, against the Black Sea blockade, against trading with Russia).

Protest can do nothing.  The best move here is to liberate the area being blocked by Russian forces.  Or if possible have a truce and persuade Russian leaders to open the trade route affecting the food source path.

Also, if we're talking about middle-class people, they aren't the ones who'll be hit by the crisis the most. But still, if it's possible to afford it, I'd stock up on flour, dry pasta, yeast (to bake the bread if there's none), non-perishable goods. Not much, no need to go crazy, but just some of it in case there's a severe food shortage and you need to survive.

If they have backyards, they can start planting vegetables and other food-source plants that can grow in the given environment.  It may take some time but it has been an effective method of minimizing the effect of scarce food sources.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: traderethereum on May 27, 2022, 01:14:49 PM
Honestly, I'm one of those people who only work to fulfill my daily needs. Because the average income in my country is not large, so I can only
buy daily necessities from the income I get from working. Even I don't have money to go on vacation or buy luxury goods, my life is like
middle-class people in general. So when the price of daily necessities rises, all I can do is, of course, find ways to increase my income.

Fortunately, since getting to know crypto my economy has started to improve,  because there are many opportunities to be able to make money
from the crypto world. Now I don't have to worry about the increase in food prices, I can still buy food even though the price goes up, because
my income has increased. So the best solution is indeed we have to work hard by finding ways to make even more money with the increase
in food prices today. Moreover, information is very easy to get with easy internet access, I also got information about crypto and found out how to
make more money from the internet. So take advantage of technology to make our lives much better than before.
You are not alone, as many people are into crypto just like you.
So you should not think that you are alone.
I'm sure one day we will have a better life and investing in crypto will provide an opportunity for us to have a better income.
With improved technology, we are one step ahead and can have more opportunities to make money from the internet.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Mometaskers on May 27, 2022, 02:15:10 PM
What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?

I think the average pod-dweller would be limited to storing as much food as possible while also reducing consumption to train the body to survive with fewer calories. Stock up on canned goods and staples like rice, corn and beans. Honey is also a good item to hoard. Maybe buy extra supplements too.

Those in the countryside or with larger backyards can start farming and learning how to preserve those veggies they grew. If the space allow it, some chickens and a pair of goats probably ain't bad as well.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: carlfebz2 on May 27, 2022, 09:19:21 PM
Honestly, I'm one of those people who only work to fulfill my daily needs. Because the average income in my country is not large, so I can only
buy daily necessities from the income I get from working. Even I don't have money to go on vacation or buy luxury goods, my life is like
middle-class people in general. So when the price of daily necessities rises, all I can do is, of course, find ways to increase my income.

Fortunately, since getting to know crypto my economy has started to improve,  because there are many opportunities to be able to make money
from the crypto world. Now I don't have to worry about the increase in food prices, I can still buy food even though the price goes up, because
my income has increased. So the best solution is indeed we have to work hard by finding ways to make even more money with the increase
in food prices today. Moreover, information is very easy to get with easy internet access, I also got information about crypto and found out how to
make more money from the internet. So take advantage of technology to make our lives much better than before.
You are not alone, as many people are into crypto just like you.
So you should not think that you are alone.
I'm sure one day we will have a better life and investing in crypto will provide an opportunity for us to have a better income.
With improved technology, we are one step ahead and can have more opportunities to make money from the internet.
Aside on having a day job then it would really be that sensible on looking for something alternative on where you could able to make yourself that sustainable despite of the possible crisis that might able to experience on where you could at least able to handle out yourself into these kind of scenarios.

Therefore finding alternative or other option is they key for you not to mind off that much or improve your overall fiat or lifestyle status.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: traderethereum on May 28, 2022, 10:32:59 AM
Aside on having a day job then it would really be that sensible on looking for something alternative on where you could able to make yourself that sustainable despite of the possible crisis that might able to experience on where you could at least able to handle out yourself into these kind of scenarios.

Therefore finding alternative or other option is they key for you not to mind off that much or improve your overall fiat or lifestyle status.
At least we already have a daily job that can help us meet our lives' needs so that we will not be in trouble.
Looking for a side job is recommended, especially for those who want to have extra income to save for their future.
After having an additional income, they can also try to invest to increase their savings and their lives in the future will also be better.
In addition, they also don't have to think too much about lifestyle because it is only a temporary pleasure that will disappear.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Taskford on May 28, 2022, 11:19:20 AM
Honestly, I'm one of those people who only work to fulfill my daily needs. Because the average income in my country is not large, so I can only
buy daily necessities from the income I get from working. Even I don't have money to go on vacation or buy luxury goods, my life is like
middle-class people in general. So when the price of daily necessities rises, all I can do is, of course, find ways to increase my income.

Fortunately, since getting to know crypto my economy has started to improve,  because there are many opportunities to be able to make money
from the crypto world. Now I don't have to worry about the increase in food prices, I can still buy food even though the price goes up, because
my income has increased. So the best solution is indeed we have to work hard by finding ways to make even more money with the increase
in food prices today. Moreover, information is very easy to get with easy internet access, I also got information about crypto and found out how to
make more money from the internet. So take advantage of technology to make our lives much better than before.
You are not alone, as many people are into crypto just like you.
So you should not think that you are alone.
I'm sure one day we will have a better life and investing in crypto will provide an opportunity for us to have a better income.
With improved technology, we are one step ahead and can have more opportunities to make money from the internet.
Aside on having a day job then it would really be that sensible on looking for something alternative on where you could able to make yourself that sustainable despite of the possible crisis that might able to experience on where you could at least able to handle out yourself into these kind of scenarios.

Therefore finding alternative or other option is they key for you not to mind off that much or improve your overall fiat or lifestyle status.

We are already in digital age where remote jobs are available online so I guess their are best platform for people to go with and they can search for jobs which suitable for them. Freelancing sites are very popular right now and some of the jobs doesn't require much longer time so I guess for people who seeks for side income better try to go on freelancing since this will be more better and any people as long as they can speak english which is global language and have communication skill they can seek job there.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: wiss19 on May 28, 2022, 08:38:06 PM
canning with mason jars is pretty easy.

I do a few bushels of tomatoes for sauce.

Learn to dry meat into beef jerky. both beef jerky and mason jarred tomato will last a long time.

get a quality water filter and filter the water boil it and can it in mason jars.

Get dry beans. store in metal bento boxes.

get rice. store in metal bento boxes.

I can do all of the above for under $500 usd. I would have supplies for a few months  if I did it.

learn to make varied meals from above. you will need some basic spices.

Make sure you have at least 2 guns or shotguns with ammo for self defense or suicide if things get truly stupid.
You may say that 500 for a few months as a cheap thing for you, but when you consider that there are nations with 200 bucks a month minimum wage and there are like 20-30% of the population working for minimum wage, that becomes a bit of a question mark.

If those people bought all of those, and canned it, and eat that for a few months, that could be basically a break even situation for them, instead they get cheap stuff like potato and pasta and so forth which are very cheap and they eat that because they can't survive otherwise. So if you are from a place like the USA or the UK or whatever, then this idea would work but for people in very poor nations this is not ideal situation.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: stomachgrowls on May 28, 2022, 08:56:54 PM

We are already in digital age where remote jobs are available online so I guess their are best platform for people to go with and they can search for jobs which suitable for them. Freelancing sites are very popular right now and some of the jobs doesn't require much longer time so I guess for people who seeks for side income better try to go on freelancing since this will be more better and any people as long as they can speak english which is global language and have communication skill they can seek job there.
This is only advantageous to those people who are aware on online-based type of skills where there are lots of works which they could really get involved with and seeing on the condition of most citizens
here on my country where some of them are really that illiterate when it comes to this manner which they dont really have any choice but to stick up with that 8-5 dayjob that we do have in life.

For those people who are really that knowledgeable on the current era where we do almost able to access or learn everything then it would really be a big plus or advantage for them.
We could sustain no matter what the hardship in terms of income since we could able to get more other sources aside from our main source.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Silberman on May 28, 2022, 10:59:26 PM
We started reading more reports that talk about the possibility of a global food crisis, especially in poor countries.

  • https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/05/18/world-bank-announces-planned-actions-for-global-food-crisis-response
  • https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/22/britain-slashes-humanitarian-aid-by-51-despite-global-food-crisis
  • https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/food-crisis-ukraine-war-1.6460194
  • https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61503049

Supply chain problems, war, inflation, fertilizers will set fire to the already high food prices.

What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?
Since we are talking about people that most likely have limited resources the only way to face this crisis is to use their resources as efficiently as possible, meaning that  right now it is a good idea to reduce luxuries to a minimum, invest in some assets which could outpace inflation and finally if possible begin to stock some food in the case the food crisis that is coming is as bad as we think it could, now this may sound extreme but I think that many people did something similar during the pandemic, so they should be used to storing some emergency food already.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: eaLiTy on May 29, 2022, 07:21:33 AM
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What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?
There are only two option, either you store the food for months which is a solution if you are not having enough room to farm your own food but the best possible solution is always growing the food for your family and then store the grains that is required for months. Personally i am having my farm where we grow vegetables and fruits and that is sufficient enough to sustain for a few months.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: sunsilk on May 29, 2022, 07:48:26 AM
After reading the suggestions - what did average Joe decided to do.
I believe Joe can take care of the food, grow his food, save water. And make a minimalist approach towards life.
Less is more.
That's easy to say but providing your own with those needs will require you to do your own effort if you're living not in an urban area. In most rural areas, you should be the one that's exerting effort for you to produce those things. Well, that goes for my country and I guess in other countries that haven't been reached yet by government programs.

But let's put it this way if there's an emergency, I saw on the news that one of the burger chains in our country is lacking patties. So that's giving the true idea and fact that there's really a shortage of supply of food.

The best thing for me to do is to put them into storage and acquire stocks. It's not yet that severe and extreme shortage but putting a little by little with my budget is a way to start.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: bitgov on May 29, 2022, 09:13:09 AM
After reading the suggestions - what did average Joe decided to do.
I believe Joe can take care of the food, grow his food, save water. And make a minimalist approach towards life.
Less is more.
That's easy to say but providing your own with those needs will require you to do your own effort if you're living not in an urban area. In most rural areas, you should be the one that's exerting effort for you to produce those things. Well, that goes for my country and I guess in other countries that haven't been reached yet by government programs.

But let's put it this way if there's an emergency, I saw on the news that one of the burger chains in our country is lacking patties. So that's giving the true idea and fact that there's really a shortage of supply of food.

The best thing for me to do is to put them into storage and acquire stocks. It's not yet that severe and extreme shortage but putting a little by little with my budget is a way to start.
I think - we all need to put our phones down for a while and work.
Try to add plants to our surrounding - grow fruits trees - if not there is a way to make a balcony kitchen garden. Which helps cutting the cost and gives back energy.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Shasha80 on May 29, 2022, 09:20:31 PM
Honestly, I'm one of those people who only work to fulfill my daily needs. Because the average income in my country is not large, so I can only
buy daily necessities from the income I get from working. Even I don't have money to go on vacation or buy luxury goods, my life is like
middle-class people in general. So when the price of daily necessities rises, all I can do is, of course, find ways to increase my income.

Fortunately, since getting to know crypto my economy has started to improve,  because there are many opportunities to be able to make money
from the crypto world. Now I don't have to worry about the increase in food prices, I can still buy food even though the price goes up, because
my income has increased. So the best solution is indeed we have to work hard by finding ways to make even more money with the increase
in food prices today. Moreover, information is very easy to get with easy internet access, I also got information about crypto and found out how to
make more money from the internet. So take advantage of technology to make our lives much better than before.
You are not alone, as many people are into crypto just like you.
So you should not think that you are alone.
I'm sure one day we will have a better life and investing in crypto will provide an opportunity for us to have a better income.
With improved technology, we are one step ahead and can have more opportunities to make money from the internet.

I thank this forum can make me gain knowledge how to use crypto to make money. I have also been active in this forum so I know many people
who have the same experience as me, so I don't feel alone anymore. Besides now I feel my economy is getting better, and for now I have
started planning for retirement. By regularly buying Bitcoin and Ethereum for long term investments, because these two coins have the potential
to give me big profits in the future. Moreover, this year the market is bearish, so it's the right time to accumulate Bitcoin and Ethereum.
I am very happy that technological developments are very fast, although I know that technological developments will also have a negative impact,
but as long as we get more benefits from technological advances, we should be grateful for that. So we can face the current global food crisis.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: iv4n on May 30, 2022, 06:30:13 AM
For a while I watched Doomsday Preppers on National Geography, I laughed at the fact how far some people are willing to go in preparation for disasters that can happen! They were stacking food, gasoline, weapons, and all sort of things for +2 years! Every once and a while renewing stuff that has an expiration date! Some of them were learning how to make ammunition, imagine if they spend all and they can't buy it? So they need to learn how to make it!

This situation and topic reminded me of that show! Where this world is going in the 21st century?! Do we all need to become preppers?! And what's with all the people who live in the cities, in small condos!? They simply don't have enough space to do that... so I guess average Joe can be quiet and hope for the best!


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Mauser on May 30, 2022, 07:04:40 AM
Buying and hoarding food is one way to prepare for the big food crisis next year. Right now it seems that the food supply for this year is guaranteed and only in 2023 we will feel shortages. In case of buying canned or dried food that will last for many years and shouldn't be an option. I think there are even companies who offer big boxes of a wide variety of food that cover all the essentials people need to survive on. But most dried and canned food is not as delicious and nutritious as fresh food. It's important to also store herbs and vitamin supplements. One alternative could be if you own a house to start a garden and plant your own food. Planting some potatoes or vegetables could help a lot and will provide some fresh food at a reasonable price. Having a piece of land somewhere outside of the city if we live in an apartment could also be helpful.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: yhiaali3 on May 30, 2022, 07:20:06 AM
Storing food will not solve the problem, especially if we are talking about a long-term crisis. First, you need money to buy foodstuffs, and secondly, you need the tools to save these materials and thus pay more costs. So, in my opinion, the best solution is to search for additional income and increase your savings so that you are able to Spending and buying the necessary food when needed, but since the value of paper money is increasing and losing its value over time, it is better to store bitcoin or gold because its value can grow with time.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: NotATether on May 30, 2022, 07:49:01 AM
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?

Erm... how about not wasting food in the first place?

I watched in a re-run of a recorded UN conference where the speaker was giving some statistics: "About 1/3 of all farm output is wasted somewhere in the supply chain". This was some years ago, so long before any of these events happened.

To preserve the food you have will offset Ukraine's (for example) wheat output greatly.

You don't need complex solutions for simple problems...


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: sunsilk on May 30, 2022, 10:34:04 PM
That's easy to say but providing your own with those needs will require you to do your own effort if you're living not in an urban area. In most rural areas, you should be the one that's exerting effort for you to produce those things. Well, that goes for my country and I guess in other countries that haven't been reached yet by government programs.

But let's put it this way if there's an emergency, I saw on the news that one of the burger chains in our country is lacking patties. So that's giving the true idea and fact that there's really a shortage of supply of food.

The best thing for me to do is to put them into storage and acquire stocks. It's not yet that severe and extreme shortage but putting a little by little with my budget is a way to start.
I think - we all need to put our phones down for a while and work.
Try to add plants to our surrounding - grow fruits trees - if not there is a way to make a balcony kitchen garden. Which helps cutting the cost and gives back energy.
In those places that they've got a spare land to plant all of those, they can do that.

But as you know in some cities, highly urbanized cities, you rarely see some plants and trees because of the tall buildings that they've got. In some way, they can still do that like doing it on rooftops if it's allowed by the management.

Well, if you're living far from the city and urban areas, you can all do this. And not just that, it's also like a stress reliever when you do so.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: n0ne on May 30, 2022, 10:47:26 PM
Everyone needs to understand the ultimate of making money. First thing is to fill our stomach, people are passionate about different things, they've got dreams, they've got goals to be achieved and it continues. For everything to happen, one need to live their lives. This isn't possible without food, some claim they'll live with just consuming water. This isn't the reality.

For now the better way is to learn to survive, which means educate yourself to grow something that can fulfill your food needs when the situation turns worse. Most people mentioned of agriculture, you could concentrate on livestock which helps earn as well as fulfill food needs.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Hamphser on May 30, 2022, 11:31:33 PM
Everyone needs to understand the ultimate of making money. First thing is to fill our stomach, people are passionate about different things, they've got dreams, they've got goals to be achieved and it continues. For everything to happen, one need to live their lives. This isn't possible without food, some claim they'll live with just consuming water. This isn't the reality.

For now the better way is to learn to survive, which means educate yourself to grow something that can fulfill your food needs when the situation turns worse. Most people mentioned of agriculture, you could concentrate on livestock which helps earn as well as fulfill food needs.
Part of our instincts or even a behavior on where we do normally find ways for us to live and survive via means on earning money because having no money would surely put you into trouble since you cant
able to survive if you dont have this one and the way on earning income is to have some job and if its not enough then find for side income whether finding another side jobs or making some investment
which would serve out to be an another source of income on where it could possibly give out those chances for you to have a more better life status or situation where you could
really able to do all sorts of things when you do have money or funds.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Silberman on June 01, 2022, 11:15:41 PM
After reading the suggestions - what did average Joe decided to do.
I believe Joe can take care of the food, grow his food, save water. And make a minimalist approach towards life.
Less is more.
That's easy to say but providing your own with those needs will require you to do your own effort if you're living not in an urban area. In most rural areas, you should be the one that's exerting effort for you to produce those things. Well, that goes for my country and I guess in other countries that haven't been reached yet by government programs.

But let's put it this way if there's an emergency, I saw on the news that one of the burger chains in our country is lacking patties. So that's giving the true idea and fact that there's really a shortage of supply of food.

The best thing for me to do is to put them into storage and acquire stocks. It's not yet that severe and extreme shortage but putting a little by little with my budget is a way to start.
Agreed, the average person is never going to be able to do that, they may purchase a little bit more of food, but that is it, as we must remember that most people live paycheck to paycheck and they do not have any significant savings they can use to buy more food, and even if they could do that this will only aggravate the problem, since now the demand for food will increase while the supply is going down, making the price of food to grow even faster.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: bitgov on June 02, 2022, 07:28:46 PM
Agreed, the average person is never going to be able to do that, they may purchase a little bit more of food, but that is it, as we must remember that most people live paycheck to paycheck and they do not have any significant savings they can use to buy more food, and even if they could do that this will only aggravate the problem, since now the demand for food will increase while the supply is going down, making the price of food to grow even faster.
I think - everyone can do something in their capacity.
The charity begins at home, small savings and investments can help you get rid of so many problem. Like saving up - growing organic food - leaving less carbon footprints. can bring in a positive change in home and environment.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on June 03, 2022, 10:59:10 AM
When the pandemic hit and many were quarantined, it was a rehearsal for what the world had in store for the future.

Now, reading how many write about the need to buy products, I have a question. How long can these products be stored? In any case, they will end one day. And then what? Posts about catching cats and rats look like complete nonsense. I'm just not ready and don't want to live in a world where people turn into animals.

Anyone who thinks that the world's end is coming and wants to extend their life expectancy should move away from civilizations. There you will be in complete nirvana, turning away from all the advice, news, and generally unnecessary garbage that the Internet carries.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Kakmakr on June 03, 2022, 11:20:03 AM
There are not really a lot that you can do..... the food prices has already increased substantially and I think there are not a lot of people in the position to buy bulk at these inflated prices. Even if you buy in bulk, most food items have an expiry date... so you will have to use those food items within a few months..or it will spoil.  ::)

I buy certain food items that last longer in bulk, like Rice & Flour & Tea & Powered Milk & Oats & Red Wine ...etc. Most of these products will last a year or longer.... so I am hoping that everything will return to normal....way before they reach their expiry date.  :P


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: bitgov on June 04, 2022, 07:46:38 PM
There are not really a lot that you can do..... the food prices has already increased substantially and I think there are not a lot of people in the position to buy bulk at these inflated prices. Even if you buy in bulk, most food items have an expiry date... so you will have to use those food items within a few months..or it will spoil.  ::)

I buy certain food items that last longer in bulk, like Rice & Flour & Tea & Powered Milk & Oats & Red Wine ...etc. Most of these products will last a year or longer.... so I am hoping that everything will return to normal....way before they reach their expiry date.  :P
The wise people are investing in food business - the high inflation all around the globe has put everyone in so much trouble. So saving is very helpful.
Save money, save water, save food and save your health. You can do some real magic - if you save yourself from the toxic stuff and people.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Oilacris on June 04, 2022, 07:55:44 PM
There are not really a lot that you can do..... the food prices has already increased substantially and I think there are not a lot of people in the position to buy bulk at these inflated prices. Even if you buy in bulk, most food items have an expiry date... so you will have to use those food items within a few months..or it will spoil.  ::)

I buy certain food items that last longer in bulk, like Rice & Flour & Tea & Powered Milk & Oats & Red Wine ...etc. Most of these products will last a year or longer.... so I am hoping that everything will return to normal....way before they reach their expiry date.  :P
The wise people are investing in food business - the high inflation all around the globe has put everyone in so much trouble. So saving is very helpful.
Save money, save water, save food and save your health. You can do some real magic - if you save yourself from the toxic stuff and people.
Easy to say but acquiring these things wont be simple considering that it do need something for you to be able to achieve on.

Save money? You do need different source of income
Save water? This is a global thing aspect
Save food? Cant avoid high increase of price
Save health? This vary since not all are really that mindful about the condition.

Common sense would be the key with some extreme effort when you are trying out to prepare on something.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: teosanru on June 04, 2022, 08:10:51 PM
We started reading more reports that talk about the possibility of a global food crisis, especially in poor countries.

  • https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/05/18/world-bank-announces-planned-actions-for-global-food-crisis-response
  • https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/22/britain-slashes-humanitarian-aid-by-51-despite-global-food-crisis
  • https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/food-crisis-ukraine-war-1.6460194
  • https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61503049

Supply chain problems, war, inflation, fertilizers will set fire to the already high food prices.

What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?
An average JOE will undoubtedly the one who will be most affected by this type of situation, he will not only be seeing squeezing in his income but will also see the expenses rising due to disrupted supply chains, the only way to treat this is by either creating the goods yourself or having direct contacts with someone pretty up in the supply chain. Due to obvious reasons you can't produce everything yourself so I would suggest make some contacts with people make some self help groups where people could help each other in these situations this is the only way how one average JOE can survive by being with other average JOE and being together as a team.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: White pawn on June 04, 2022, 09:47:03 PM
An average Joe can start with trying to cultivate the land to plant and harvest his own food. That is in my opinion, the best way to avoid starving to death. In doing so, the average Joe can cultivate and plant crops for his personal consumption and cool also plant some cash crops to sell and buy whatever  cannot provide for himself.
       It's also wise for the average Joe to stock up on grains as much as as he cold. Those are easier to store and keep for a long while.
It's just best to be self-reliant.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: bitgov on June 05, 2022, 07:29:55 PM
An average Joe can start with trying to cultivate the land to plant and harvest his own food. That is in my opinion, the best way to avoid starving to death. In doing so, the average Joe can cultivate and plant crops for his personal consumption and cool also plant some cash crops to sell and buy whatever  cannot provide for himself.
       It's also wise for the average Joe to stock up on grains as much as as he cold. Those are easier to store and keep for a long while.
It's just best to be self-reliant.
Save up a bit. Try to have your own small kitchen garden where you can get a handful of vegetables daily. So you can save a bit.
Try to save water - use biodegradable items. and live a minimalist life. Follow the life style less is more.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: Dunamisx on June 06, 2022, 08:52:44 AM
i believe this is not the first time there will be food economic challenge and such will still happen to reoccur in the future ahead but what we can do is how to find a sustainable living amidst such, I don't believe in there won't be crisis but i so much believe in making a living out of it, we have to think and work out some strategies to make us able to over food challenge, if food problem is out of man's need then all his problems is almost solved, we should engage in adequate planning and source for two or more means of income, farming is another Advantage, most of our grand parents were farmers but we understimate the potential in farming activities.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: bitgov on June 06, 2022, 07:26:34 PM
i believe this is not the first time there will be food economic challenge and such will still happen to reoccur in the future ahead but what we can do is how to find a sustainable living amidst such, I don't believe in there won't be crisis but i so much believe in making a living out of it, we have to think and work out some strategies to make us able to over food challenge, if food problem is out of man's need then all his problems is almost solved, we should engage in adequate planning and source for two or more means of income, farming is another Advantage, most of our grandparents were farmers but we underestimate the potential in farming activities.
He can make a world a better place by working in his capacity - making a small kitchen garden for Joe himself and for the neighbours.
This can bring in some positive change in the environment and society. Little by little we can do it


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 06, 2022, 08:37:29 PM
An average Joe can start with trying to cultivate the land to plant and harvest his own food. That is in my opinion, the best way to avoid starving to death. In doing so, the average Joe can cultivate and plant crops for his personal consumption and cool also plant some cash crops to sell and buy whatever  cannot provide for himself.
       It's also wise for the average Joe to stock up on grains as much as as he cold. Those are easier to store and keep for a long while.
It's just best to be self-reliant.
Save up a bit. Try to have your own small kitchen garden where you can get a handful of vegetables daily. So you can save a bit.
Try to save water - use biodegradable items. and live a minimalist life. Follow the life style less is more.
Easy to say and it might look that easy but people isnt really get used to this kind of lifestyle wherever they do consider on having such change but if they are really that serious then it could really be done.

Its up to someones dedicative approach on this kind of goal specially on a crisis which making such step would really be that relevant.Its up to us whether we do start on doing it now or would really just

simply wait on things to become worst before doing or taking such action.WE do have our own plans in life some might really be get influenced by others idea but its up to you on where you would
be following.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: TheNineClub on June 06, 2022, 09:35:48 PM
We started reading more reports that talk about the possibility of a global food crisis, especially in poor countries.

  • https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/05/18/world-bank-announces-planned-actions-for-global-food-crisis-response
  • https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/22/britain-slashes-humanitarian-aid-by-51-despite-global-food-crisis
  • https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/food-crisis-ukraine-war-1.6460194
  • https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61503049

Supply chain problems, war, inflation, fertilizers will set fire to the already high food prices.

What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?

I am all for farming and have some benefits myself from a small garden, but that alone can't solve the issue that is overpopulation. And when you have overpopulation you are bound to get issuse where specific regions just can't produce food. Then you need food imports and then we are at the point we are now. Investing and crypto means jack shit if there's no food to buy, so there's no solutiom there. The bottom line is that an average person can't really do anything. This is a much bigger problem that really needs a push from the entire humanity.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: FanEagle on June 08, 2022, 08:46:03 AM
Botany and agriculture is something that should be getting a lot more attention these days. Remember, we are growing as population, sure maybe we are slowed down a lot, but there are still too many people and the number is still going up, even though it is not as fast as it used to be. That means we are going to need more and more food, and we are going to need something that would benefit people with a much smaller land.

I keep saying that farming needs to move into buildings already, people who are still using huge lands to farm, are the old ways, and anyone who buys a whole tall building, and farms there, with workers, they will be the ones that will be the next Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, warren buffet, bill gates or whatever of our next generation. Anyone who builds an agriculture corp that raises foods in buildings will be next richest person.


Title: Re: What can an average JOE do to face the global food crisis?
Post by: bitgov on June 08, 2022, 09:23:51 PM
Botany and agriculture is something that should be getting a lot more attention these days. Remember, we are growing as population, sure maybe we are slowed down a lot, but there are still too many people and the number is still going up, even though it is not as fast as it used to be. That means we are going to need more and more food, and we are going to need something that would benefit people with a much smaller land.

I keep saying that farming needs to move into buildings already, people who are still using huge lands to farm, are the old ways, and anyone who buys a whole tall building, and farms there, with workers, they will be the ones that will be the next Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, warren buffet, bill gates or whatever of our next generation. Anyone who builds an agriculture corp that raises foods in buildings will be next richest person.
It is hard time and there is not end to it. The only solution is to do a bit of saving both on money and environment.
Keeping the environment clean and green can be a great help to the people and to the environment - of course!