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May 26, 2022, 08:25:25 AM
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I'm not a food crisis expert, but on the top of my head:

1. Buy a good amount of preserved goods. Canned goods that has years before expiration, and the like. Don't over-hoard though, don't forget that other people need food too!

2. Try planting food that is quite low maintenance and that grows quickly. Afaik spinach and carrots grow decently fast enough. Also probably buy a few hens? I don't know crap about farming eggs tho.

3. Do as much as you can to increase your income, and stop spending money on trivial stuff for now.
It’s good to learn how to save money in such a situation, you shouldn’t be spending too much on a lot of things, because when you do, you would lack money to buy the most important things which you are going to need. Then like you have said, planting food is also a really good idea, because when you plant food, you would get to have food for you to eat and wouldn’t have to be going out to spend money on buying those stuffs.  Buying preserved food also seems like a good idea too, though not so much to me.
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May 26, 2022, 11:02:52 AM
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What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?

What came in to my head first is to invest  more fund to create a huge backyard farm or buy an isolated land where you can have your own farm. This will help you in the long run with the continued rise of food prices in the market. Having your own live stocks, crops, and some sort of plant/spices that's essential with everyday cooking will save you a lot of money.
You could even start your own business importing these food products in your local market eventually.

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May 26, 2022, 01:08:17 PM
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Make sure you have at least 2 guns or shotguns with ammo for self defense or suicide if things get truly stupid.

This is advice that is applicable in the US where I guess any child can buy a firearm and then commit a massacre because he had bad grades in school. I can tell you that if I want to own a firearm legally in the EU, I have to go through a very complicated multi-level screening process, and that includes personal interviews with all my neighbors to assess whether I am crazy, dangerous, or something else.

If people committed suicide just because their things became truly stupid then few would survive various crises and challenges. Fortunately, we are not all crazy about guns...

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May 26, 2022, 01:28:02 PM
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Most middle-class people only think about how they can eat the next day and how to survive.
Those people could not buy more food because of the limited money they had so they could only afford food for today.
For the next day, they will still try to fulfil their needs by working anything so that they can have money to survive.
Buying more food is not a solution for them because they have to think about how to store their food.
Besides that, the price of the land they have to buy is already very expensive.
They can only keep working and trying to earn money to buy their daily needs.

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May 26, 2022, 04:21:25 PM
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it is very difficult to deal with a food crisis, especially in countries that are in war. many people starve and die because there is no food to eat. while for the middle class they may be able to save by buying dry food and storing it properly or can take advantage of existing natural resources such as managing land to produce food

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May 26, 2022, 08:09:59 PM
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What came in to my head first is to invest  more fund to create a huge backyard farm or buy an isolated land where you can have your own farm. This will help you in the long run with the continued rise of food prices in the market. Having your own live stocks, crops, and some sort of plant/spices that's essential with everyday cooking will save you a lot of money.
You could even start your own business importing these food products in your local market eventually.
I would guess that it could work, if you know what you are doing then you do not even need land neither. You could build something in your home as well. Even one room would be enough to cover maybe like quarter of your food cost as well.

Not that you would have to raise it yourself, since the prices would go up, you would be selling it yourself and then you would be making a profit by selling them and pay expensive amount for whatever food you want with that profit. Hydroponics would allow you to have a small farm in your room, and if you leave one full room for it, it should be giving you a great return as well with the most efficient and optimum way as well.

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May 26, 2022, 08:15:30 PM
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What came in to my head first is to invest  more fund to create a huge backyard farm or buy an isolated land where you can have your own farm. This will help you in the long run with the continued rise of food prices in the market. Having your own live stocks, crops, and some sort of plant/spices that's essential with everyday cooking will save you a lot of money.
You could even start your own business importing these food products in your local market eventually.
I would guess that it could work, if you know what you are doing then you do not even need land neither. You could build something in your home as well. Even one room would be enough to cover maybe like quarter of your food cost as well.

Not that you would have to raise it yourself, since the prices would go up, you would be selling it yourself and then you would be making a profit by selling them and pay expensive amount for whatever food you want with that profit. Hydroponics would allow you to have a small farm in your room, and if you leave one full room for it, it should be giving you a great return as well with the most efficient and optimum way as well.

This is what I am thinking also, you don't need big land to be at least self-sufficient. A small garden can already reduce some of your food expenses. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to tend one. It just needs a lil bit of hard work and once you set-up your garden, the maintenance would not be a burden as it may need only a lil bit of attention. At the end of the day, it is your willingness to explore what you have and not complain with everyday things.
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This is what I am thinking also, you don't need big land to be at least self-sufficient. A small garden can already reduce some of your food expenses. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to tend one. It just needs a lil bit of hard work and once you set-up your garden, the maintenance would not be a burden as it may need only a lil bit of attention. At the end of the day, it is your willingness to explore what you have and not complain with everyday things.
After reading the suggestions - what did average Joe decided to do.
I believe Joe can take care of the food, grow his food, save water. And make a minimalist approach towards life.
Less is more.

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May 26, 2022, 10:37:03 PM
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Most middle-class people only think about how they can eat the next day and how to survive.
Those people could not buy more food because of the limited money they had so they could only afford food for today.
For the next day, they will still try to fulfil their needs by working anything so that they can have money to survive.
Buying more food is not a solution for them because they have to think about how to store their food.
Besides that, the price of the land they have to buy is already very expensive.
They can only keep working and trying to earn money to buy their daily needs.

Honestly, I'm one of those people who only work to fulfill my daily needs. Because the average income in my country is not large, so I can only
buy daily necessities from the income I get from working. Even I don't have money to go on vacation or buy luxury goods, my life is like
middle-class people in general. So when the price of daily necessities rises, all I can do is, of course, find ways to increase my income.

Fortunately, since getting to know crypto my economy has started to improve,  because there are many opportunities to be able to make money
from the crypto world. Now I don't have to worry about the increase in food prices, I can still buy food even though the price goes up, because
my income has increased. So the best solution is indeed we have to work hard by finding ways to make even more money with the increase
in food prices today. Moreover, information is very easy to get with easy internet access, I also got information about crypto and found out how to
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The food crisis is happening because of Russia's war against Ukraine, and currently the most pressing matter is that a lot of grain is blocked in Ukrainians ports in the Black Sea by Russia, so it just can't reach its destination, reach those who most need it.

This might be true for those countries that rely on Ukraine for Food sources but it isn't true for those who are independent of it.

So if there's anything an average Joe can do to stop the war, they should (protests against the war, against the Black Sea blockade, against trading with Russia).

Protest can do nothing.  The best move here is to liberate the area being blocked by Russian forces.  Or if possible have a truce and persuade Russian leaders to open the trade route affecting the food source path.

Also, if we're talking about middle-class people, they aren't the ones who'll be hit by the crisis the most. But still, if it's possible to afford it, I'd stock up on flour, dry pasta, yeast (to bake the bread if there's none), non-perishable goods. Not much, no need to go crazy, but just some of it in case there's a severe food shortage and you need to survive.

If they have backyards, they can start planting vegetables and other food-source plants that can grow in the given environment.  It may take some time but it has been an effective method of minimizing the effect of scarce food sources.

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May 27, 2022, 01:14:49 PM
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Honestly, I'm one of those people who only work to fulfill my daily needs. Because the average income in my country is not large, so I can only
buy daily necessities from the income I get from working. Even I don't have money to go on vacation or buy luxury goods, my life is like
middle-class people in general. So when the price of daily necessities rises, all I can do is, of course, find ways to increase my income.

Fortunately, since getting to know crypto my economy has started to improve,  because there are many opportunities to be able to make money
from the crypto world. Now I don't have to worry about the increase in food prices, I can still buy food even though the price goes up, because
my income has increased. So the best solution is indeed we have to work hard by finding ways to make even more money with the increase
in food prices today. Moreover, information is very easy to get with easy internet access, I also got information about crypto and found out how to
make more money from the internet. So take advantage of technology to make our lives much better than before.
You are not alone, as many people are into crypto just like you.
So you should not think that you are alone.
I'm sure one day we will have a better life and investing in crypto will provide an opportunity for us to have a better income.
With improved technology, we are one step ahead and can have more opportunities to make money from the internet.

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May 27, 2022, 02:15:10 PM
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What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?

I think the average pod-dweller would be limited to storing as much food as possible while also reducing consumption to train the body to survive with fewer calories. Stock up on canned goods and staples like rice, corn and beans. Honey is also a good item to hoard. Maybe buy extra supplements too.

Those in the countryside or with larger backyards can start farming and learning how to preserve those veggies they grew. If the space allow it, some chickens and a pair of goats probably ain't bad as well.
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May 27, 2022, 09:19:21 PM
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Honestly, I'm one of those people who only work to fulfill my daily needs. Because the average income in my country is not large, so I can only
buy daily necessities from the income I get from working. Even I don't have money to go on vacation or buy luxury goods, my life is like
middle-class people in general. So when the price of daily necessities rises, all I can do is, of course, find ways to increase my income.

Fortunately, since getting to know crypto my economy has started to improve,  because there are many opportunities to be able to make money
from the crypto world. Now I don't have to worry about the increase in food prices, I can still buy food even though the price goes up, because
my income has increased. So the best solution is indeed we have to work hard by finding ways to make even more money with the increase
in food prices today. Moreover, information is very easy to get with easy internet access, I also got information about crypto and found out how to
make more money from the internet. So take advantage of technology to make our lives much better than before.
You are not alone, as many people are into crypto just like you.
So you should not think that you are alone.
I'm sure one day we will have a better life and investing in crypto will provide an opportunity for us to have a better income.
With improved technology, we are one step ahead and can have more opportunities to make money from the internet.
Aside on having a day job then it would really be that sensible on looking for something alternative on where you could able to make yourself that sustainable despite of the possible crisis that might able to experience on where you could at least able to handle out yourself into these kind of scenarios.

Therefore finding alternative or other option is they key for you not to mind off that much or improve your overall fiat or lifestyle status.

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May 28, 2022, 10:32:59 AM
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Aside on having a day job then it would really be that sensible on looking for something alternative on where you could able to make yourself that sustainable despite of the possible crisis that might able to experience on where you could at least able to handle out yourself into these kind of scenarios.

Therefore finding alternative or other option is they key for you not to mind off that much or improve your overall fiat or lifestyle status.
At least we already have a daily job that can help us meet our lives' needs so that we will not be in trouble.
Looking for a side job is recommended, especially for those who want to have extra income to save for their future.
After having an additional income, they can also try to invest to increase their savings and their lives in the future will also be better.
In addition, they also don't have to think too much about lifestyle because it is only a temporary pleasure that will disappear.

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May 28, 2022, 11:19:20 AM
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Honestly, I'm one of those people who only work to fulfill my daily needs. Because the average income in my country is not large, so I can only
buy daily necessities from the income I get from working. Even I don't have money to go on vacation or buy luxury goods, my life is like
middle-class people in general. So when the price of daily necessities rises, all I can do is, of course, find ways to increase my income.

Fortunately, since getting to know crypto my economy has started to improve,  because there are many opportunities to be able to make money
from the crypto world. Now I don't have to worry about the increase in food prices, I can still buy food even though the price goes up, because
my income has increased. So the best solution is indeed we have to work hard by finding ways to make even more money with the increase
in food prices today. Moreover, information is very easy to get with easy internet access, I also got information about crypto and found out how to
make more money from the internet. So take advantage of technology to make our lives much better than before.
You are not alone, as many people are into crypto just like you.
So you should not think that you are alone.
I'm sure one day we will have a better life and investing in crypto will provide an opportunity for us to have a better income.
With improved technology, we are one step ahead and can have more opportunities to make money from the internet.
Aside on having a day job then it would really be that sensible on looking for something alternative on where you could able to make yourself that sustainable despite of the possible crisis that might able to experience on where you could at least able to handle out yourself into these kind of scenarios.

Therefore finding alternative or other option is they key for you not to mind off that much or improve your overall fiat or lifestyle status.

We are already in digital age where remote jobs are available online so I guess their are best platform for people to go with and they can search for jobs which suitable for them. Freelancing sites are very popular right now and some of the jobs doesn't require much longer time so I guess for people who seeks for side income better try to go on freelancing since this will be more better and any people as long as they can speak english which is global language and have communication skill they can seek job there.

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May 28, 2022, 08:38:06 PM
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canning with mason jars is pretty easy.

I do a few bushels of tomatoes for sauce.

Learn to dry meat into beef jerky. both beef jerky and mason jarred tomato will last a long time.

get a quality water filter and filter the water boil it and can it in mason jars.

Get dry beans. store in metal bento boxes.

get rice. store in metal bento boxes.

I can do all of the above for under $500 usd. I would have supplies for a few months  if I did it.

learn to make varied meals from above. you will need some basic spices.

Make sure you have at least 2 guns or shotguns with ammo for self defense or suicide if things get truly stupid.
You may say that 500 for a few months as a cheap thing for you, but when you consider that there are nations with 200 bucks a month minimum wage and there are like 20-30% of the population working for minimum wage, that becomes a bit of a question mark.

If those people bought all of those, and canned it, and eat that for a few months, that could be basically a break even situation for them, instead they get cheap stuff like potato and pasta and so forth which are very cheap and they eat that because they can't survive otherwise. So if you are from a place like the USA or the UK or whatever, then this idea would work but for people in very poor nations this is not ideal situation.

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We are already in digital age where remote jobs are available online so I guess their are best platform for people to go with and they can search for jobs which suitable for them. Freelancing sites are very popular right now and some of the jobs doesn't require much longer time so I guess for people who seeks for side income better try to go on freelancing since this will be more better and any people as long as they can speak english which is global language and have communication skill they can seek job there.
This is only advantageous to those people who are aware on online-based type of skills where there are lots of works which they could really get involved with and seeing on the condition of most citizens
here on my country where some of them are really that illiterate when it comes to this manner which they dont really have any choice but to stick up with that 8-5 dayjob that we do have in life.

For those people who are really that knowledgeable on the current era where we do almost able to access or learn everything then it would really be a big plus or advantage for them.
We could sustain no matter what the hardship in terms of income since we could able to get more other sources aside from our main source.

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We started reading more reports that talk about the possibility of a global food crisis, especially in poor countries.


Supply chain problems, war, inflation, fertilizers will set fire to the already high food prices.

What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?
Since we are talking about people that most likely have limited resources the only way to face this crisis is to use their resources as efficiently as possible, meaning that  right now it is a good idea to reduce luxuries to a minimum, invest in some assets which could outpace inflation and finally if possible begin to stock some food in the case the food crisis that is coming is as bad as we think it could, now this may sound extreme but I think that many people did something similar during the pandemic, so they should be used to storing some emergency food already.
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What can the average middle-class person do to protect themselves from food problems?
Will buying more food and storing it solve the problem, or trying to start farming or investing and trying to increase his money to buy food at any price? Or what?
There are only two option, either you store the food for months which is a solution if you are not having enough room to farm your own food but the best possible solution is always growing the food for your family and then store the grains that is required for months. Personally i am having my farm where we grow vegetables and fruits and that is sufficient enough to sustain for a few months.
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May 29, 2022, 07:48:26 AM
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After reading the suggestions - what did average Joe decided to do.
I believe Joe can take care of the food, grow his food, save water. And make a minimalist approach towards life.
Less is more.
That's easy to say but providing your own with those needs will require you to do your own effort if you're living not in an urban area. In most rural areas, you should be the one that's exerting effort for you to produce those things. Well, that goes for my country and I guess in other countries that haven't been reached yet by government programs.

But let's put it this way if there's an emergency, I saw on the news that one of the burger chains in our country is lacking patties. So that's giving the true idea and fact that there's really a shortage of supply of food.

The best thing for me to do is to put them into storage and acquire stocks. It's not yet that severe and extreme shortage but putting a little by little with my budget is a way to start.

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