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Main sponsor:
I am happy to announce that our main Sponsor for this year is Sportsbet.io
I believe no further introduction is necessary since we are talking about top crypto bookie here. I am sure you all have an account there and if you don't, what are you waiting for?
The deal includes:
1. 40 mBTC cash for pool rewards if there is at least 15 of us. 30 mBTC if there is at least 10 of us.
2. 0.5 mBTC free bet for every participant, in other words you get half of entrance fee back as free bet on Sportsbet.io when the tournament starts


How this pool works
For prediction we will use Superbru page and we will have complementary discussion topic here on the forum for participants only. Superbru has been around for years and they are very good at providing custom pools for all kinds of sports. The idea of the game is to predict correct scores from all the games which gives you max points (3). If you get outcome correct but not the score there is still some points awarded (1-1.5). The winner is the person with most points at the end of the season.

This time it is a bit different competition so read following paragraph

We will abide by Superbru rules for everything.



Buy in
This is a paid pool and buy in is set to 0.001 BTC (1mBTC), just about 30$ at this moment.  All the collected money will be used for prizes. Also you get half of it back as free bet. Please send me a PM with tx id, your Sportsbet username and Superbru username when joining. That way I can immediately approve you and put you on the list for free bet.


Escrow and payment address
I am escrow for the funds on following BTC address, use it to pay buy in fees:

1LvuzbbzYFwVmBLBT3oQUsbfRqUFPuUuDd

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Rewards:
1. 28 mBTC
2. 15 mBTC
3. 10 mBTC
4. 5 mBTC
5. 2 mBTC
we have almost 1 mBTC reserved for fees and everything that is left will get added to 5th place reward. If it is not enough (it should be way more than enough) it will get taken from 5th place reward.

This thread is intended only for participants of the pool. If you did not pay to compete with us at least refrain from shit posting.

Count me in if you can wait for the payment at a maximum of exactly two weeks from now,which is 6-7 June I think.I would love to be part of the pool,in the Premier League pool I almost ended up in the prize zone so I am extremely motivated to take part in this pool too and I feel quite confident I know the National teams much better than the clubs as I believe is the case with most of us.If you accept payment at those dates as a maximum I am happy to say that I will be participating and for 0.001 Fee nowadays surely we will get more than ten players.

Trofo, thank you for taking care of the pool and for creating it. Besides, I would like to thank Sportsbet.io also for sponsoring the pool very quickly. I'm in this pool and I'm expecting more than 15 people in it too.

count me in
it is not that important competition, or I would say that Nations league title is not something which will make country proud as EURO winner or similar, but it will be interesting to see some new stars that would kick this tournament

I am hopping to see Luis Maximiano on Portugal goal in this competition

and yeah, thank you for putting hard work into organizing these competition, and to Sportsbet for sponsoring it, the best combo and should not be changed

You can count me in. I didn't lost enough money during league pools, so I can continue. Or it's already time to recover something. I wish :D. Not that I'm very excited about Nations League, but this summer we simply don't have any big football, so, this tournament is at least some action.

You can count me in as well, at least there's something else to cheer up for during this boring ass break...

Thanks to Trofo for setting this up and big ups to Sportsbet too, for always coming through!

I will not wait for payment if possible since I prefer to take care of all free bets at the same time, less work for me and Sportsbet. But don't worry I'll contact you when I make the payment for myself and if you need that extra time I will pay for you. Than you just pay me back by that date you mentioned. Hope that works for you.

Yes thank you it definitely works,maybe I pay within next week I don't really know if I could as I wait for my mining payments,my signature earnings go to something else for me.I don't even need that free bet no worries for that part too.At the worst case I will pay you at 6-7 June as a maximum so it is good that we are already 6 in numbers here with just a short time of announcing the pool.

Of course I'm in! Thank you Trofo, sportsbet, Steve, for this, as usual.

Hands up I've no idea what this League A means, so will check that out later (I have a slight recollection of the past campaign supporting countries like Georgia I believe in Group E then) but not sure why they haven't included lower leagues, I mean, why not?

Anyway, stop whining and stop procrastinating guys, don't force me to PM the same bunch of guys for La Liga and Serie A =p

Sure, why not. I am glad that the rule has changed and that we will be guessing only the main group results, I don't really track anything below A group.

Thanks to Trofo for the organizational effort and to Sportsbet once again, their contribution in these pools is quite significant. Long may it continue ;D

I'm in!

thanks to Trofo and Sportsbet.io for organizing another pool

i just saw the Nations League fixtures, and boy what a way to kick-off the league phase,, next week: Spain - Portugal and Belgium - Netherlands 🔥🔥

Clearly, im going to play this one.

Thanks again Sportsbet and Trofo, for this one , in this recesion from football teams, i dont know what can i see. But with this i have one thing to see and entertainme.

Lets see how bad or good im, because in nationals teams football its more complex.

Sure count me in and thanks Trofo!

@swogerino I got you covered on this one; we don't want anyone stressing over a fun Sportsbet.io pool

Thank you and no worries,I will pay back whichever one pays for me if the payment will be sent before I get my mining payments which I will receive on Tuesday evening,on 31 May I believe I can pay no worries about that.

As for the free bet I will give it away to anyone who wants it with a simple condition,put a bet with x500 odd and we share everything for the pool participants if we are extremely lucky to win it.I have stopped playing sport betting and only play slots from quite some time now that is why.

League A means top16 European national teams, that are divided in four groups, with four participants each
there are also League B, C and D (which does not comprise 16 teams, than less, since we do not have 64 countries in Europe, if I recall correctly)

of course, there is little attention to League B, C and D, except from countries that are involved into those segments (Serbia is in League B, so yeah, following that one as well)

interesting enough, Russia matches are cancelled, but Ukraine is expected to play on June, 8, with Ireland, and June, 14 in Poland, as home ground (both are League B, so not interesting for the pool)

My country, Turkey are in the League C currently. We have been really in a miserable condition in the recent years. Because of this, it would have been better if we had the League C too.  ;D But I still understand this as it can cause a complicated situation. The number of people in the pool is increasing day by day and we are already 11 people now. I think at least 4 more people would like to join the pool.

That is pretty surprising considering Albania is in League B and we know Turkey is the better team,they must have really screw up a lot because their condition has not been on top recently.It means that they should have an easy job getting at the top of League C as I saw the teams which are weaker compared to Turkey.It is going to be an interesting pool and I think we will be at least 20 people here in the end,looking forward to action of this pool as we are now in a dry dry situation of most of the leagues,major European leagues are in holidays until August.

You really don't want to predict outcomes of games like San Marino - Malta? :D. Seriously, I think that games in League D and C is way more predictable than in League A. But if your team isn't playing there, you have to be hardcore fan to watch League D :D.

My country is League C, same group with Turkey and I think it describes our level very well. For Turkey there shouldn't be any problems in this group because you don't have to play against Latvia which is historically probably most difficult opponent for Turkey.

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11 players already, not bad.  8)

That is enough to start the pool properly. New, clean escrow address is already set up and tested. I'll make actual pool on Superbru in the afternoon and then start collecting money. We filled up min numbers quite quickly. Now we need just few more players to break that 15 mark.

I am in. I'm better at leagues rather than tournaments but lets give it a try.

hahay, tokeweed, Joca97, slaman29, darxiaomi, rdbase, leea-1334 get your asses in here ;)


Just saw that thanks, but damn, that's only 16 teams and I still see good value in watching many of the teams in B and C now I have checked who they are... I mean, I practically followed Georgia the whole campaign last year (they won me good money too odds were so good). Haaland was in league C... I mean damn, but okay superbru you made it easy for us.

But fine, League D is where I draw the line heh

@CLS63: Yeah, Turkey. They won me some memorable games (most recent favourite I watched against France) and I always feel like the odds are great value on them even the past 2 years but they've been a huge letdown. I don't get it. So much talent all over Europe in the big leagues, and then national team still overlooks them all or maybe I'm just seeing Turkish names on jerseys but they're not Turk nationals I suspect?

Pool is created on Superbru and we have over 10 players so far so I can start the pool properly.

Buy in is 1mBTC and I will send you link to join after you pay. Please send me a PM with tx id, your Sportsbet username and Superbru username when joining. That way I can immediately approve you and put you on the list for free bet.

Escrow address for the pool:
1LvuzbbzYFwVmBLBT3oQUsbfRqUFPuUuDd

I will also update the OP with the info a bit later. buwaytress already paid to test it for me so I am sending him link to join, I am paying for cryptofrka and myself on Sunday. @Swogerino if you want me to pay for you as per our correspondence just let me know on PM before Sunday.

Done and done, good to see the confirmations come in quick. Will spend weekend a bit easy so can read up a bit too, still not fully certain how this glossy friendly plays out, but I've made a personal Belgium pick to "win" the whole thing but I won't be surprised if teams use experimental squads/formations again to allow an outsider to win. Was ALMOST right on the head with the last one (Netherlands).

done my part as well, it would be a divided competition, since first four rounds are right away, and last two in September
probably some of us will not be as motivated in September, as now

@Trofo, are you going to put table with favorite teams on first post? it is clear for those that have national team in League A, but I would cheer for Belgium

Thank you for the opportunity but I talked with a friend and I did pay from his address,I don't want to be a burden for anyone,I sent you the transaction ID via PM and you have it there.So far we are three,send me also the link as I want to join and see the pool,I want to have an idea about what to predict in the first round,thank you again for organizing such a wonderful pool.

Good luck. I hope that your country can get successful results. Latvia are really the team that Turkey are having a big difficulty against. We were able to defeat them by the penalty goal came in the 100th minute after 97 years.  :D


Yeah, we have players who are playing for important teams in Europe. Except Ilkay Gundogan, all of them have chosen to play for the Turkish national team. Even though Turkey have important talents, they still can't climb to the level that is wanted. I think that we still haven't been able to solve the problem. For example, Hakan Calhanoglu is showing a high level of performance in Italy, he is playing really badly at his national team. I don't think that it is related to the player.


I wouldn't be late if I make the payment on May 31 (on Tuesday), right?

Really not a burden, I would have gladly paid for you since 30$ a week later doesn't really do anything to my financial situation, especially since I am also sending a tx for myself do there isn't even a full tx price included in that. Sent you a link.

I was thinking of even organizing these smaller pools without joining fee with just sponsorship money but I just know we would get a shitload of freebie hunters signing up with several accounts. So not gonna happen as long as I run these pools.

Well, now that you called me on it I have to, don't I? Put your favorites in after the table gets live shout at me if I missed your team. You all know who I root for - Croatia - but I have a feeling we will be bad. We should get ahead of Austria but Denmark will be though to beat and France is just a team that always gets the result against us.

I'm here but probably not going to join in this pool and have to sit out unfortunately, have had some issues lately that need to be taken of before putting something on anymore of these.

Not a big fan of these international club interm play anyways.

Good luck to all who decide to join in!

I answer the call from you buwa!

Sorry I did not get time to do earlier but I will send 1mBTC this weekend if okay, and PM transaction ID when completed. Most likely Sunday. Funny thing is I have USDT balances now no more BTC, so need to either exchange or dig some out of my other wallets.

Portugal to defend this cup? Actually,,, can I even call it cup?

If it is easier for you, you can send 30$ or whatever the rate is on my Sportsbet address and I'll send BTC into the pool escrow. I think they accept USDT over tron so no tx fee for you. Just hit me on PM if interested.

Don't really care if I make bets in USDT or BTC.

Payment send, i can t wait this to start, i dont know how well i can do, because as i said before the football of national teams is a totally different world from Clubs.

One thing i have to say thinking in the World Cup its the European team with this kind of competition reach the world cup in best better shape than the CONMEBOL ones.

Thank you for organizing the pool Sportsbet and Trofo, in advance thank you all for letting me win.

I have already paid. If I am not mistaken, every pool I have paid for directly from Sportsbet account, no fees charges to us and they use the best fee to get the next block confirmation. Amazing.

Good luck to you guys, I will support Spain

Just saw this one, you can pay on May 31, no problem. Since you are a regular in my pools I will even send you link but will not confirm you until you pay. Just so I can track it easier.

I could be going away for few days holiday, so I could take a bit longer to respond in next few days. Payments ticking up nicely and we already have almost 10 people paying.

And there is at least 3 more of us that will play for sure: CLS, cryptofrka and me.

I am giving away 1 free entry to the first user to claim it after this post. Only Sr.Member+ Good luck

Not claiming it :)

Maybe you could post this in Premier League pool thread. Most people here have already paid and that way we could maybe get some new player who wasn't gonna join. Most of the guys in Spanish and Italian pools are also already here. Your money in the end and thanks for doing this.

I was already planning to join the pool. So it would be great for me if your offer is still valid.  :)

Sure, good luck. @Trofo can you add him the pool, mate. Thanks

Thank you for your generosity mate.  :)

Of course,  I will send the link later tonight around champions league match. Hate to do stuff like these on mobile  :)

I am thinking 15 participants should be almost a sure thing with the rate we are filling the pool.

How will the yellow cap be measured here I am curious because I have seen the events and the games will run in consecutive days from June 1 up to June 17 or even more than that,and games will be played everyday.Does this mean that this pool will only have two big rounds one in June and the last in September?

As for the filling rate it is going much better than expected.

I am bot sure either, but I am inclined to just ignore yellow cap in this pool. I can just award one more spot.

Final decision will be made when I have exact number of participants but I will probably pay out first 4 or 5 spots without yellow cap reward.

If somebody has some strong feelings or good ideas about it, feel free to share. There is still time to change my mind.

Edit: paid for cryptofrka and me
7e2da586483069b2e6b467bcba2bc65e6c08839092c46ad8da345b87c9ceaed4

Wow this pool is really filling up please remember to count me in, I might pay a bit late but for sure will.

Agree no need yellow cap!


Hey! Yes this is much better for me then I do not have to wait until next week,,, so I have send you a PM. please give me your deposit address from Sportsbet and I will send you 30 USDT directly (also from my Sportsbet) do they allow this also?

That's 15 participants. Our main goal has been met so we will have full sponsorship money :) Whoever joins now it will just be a nice bonus. This is shaping to be a nice pool and I am a little surprised how fast we filled that up.

Still couple of days left until competition starts so maybe we will even get to nice round number of 20 players.

Time to start doing a bit of research to see what we can expect from the teams. For instance I can't believe Modrić will play first game for Croatia or Benzema for France after their CL final yesterday.

surely every player who played in the CL final will take a week off from football, i mean, the only teams that didn't take a break after the leagues ended were RM and Liverpool. grandpa Modric and the old Benz need some rest, pls 😭 😂 Legends!

He can play the game because Modric is one of the most important players that Croatia has and I can fully understand the decision of the coach to make him play.We don't value much the Nations League but for the coach there is a title up for grab so he wants to add as many of them as he can to his career,I think every coach wants this.Beside that players like Modric are of another caliber so they can afford to play and soon after he may get a week of rest or so.

Trofo, I have paid the entry fee for the pool to the address that you indicated on OP. I'm sorry for making you wait. I'm very happy to see that we are 15 people in the pool now. I also think that it is better not to have a different prize for the yellow cap as there aren't many rounds already. As a person who is very interested in pools, I'm waiting for you to create a pool for Grand Slams in the future.  ;D ;D

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Did you try playing Grand slam pool on Superbru? I am playing it and it is extremely stupid. You just choose 4 players each round. I guess 4 you think that are most likely to progress. 2 from men's side and 2 from women's.

So Djoko, Nadal, Swiatek and one more girl with easiest match.

If you know some site were we can predict all matches each round and have scores counted for us I will glady organize and play.

Unfortunately I don't know about any other website for this. I knew that there was a pool for Grand Slam on Superbru but the system that you told is absolutely terrible. As you said, there isn't going to be any meaning in creating a pool without finding another place.

Hey guys, ok, so this is where I really do pretty shit, because with internationals, form is impossible to predict in between tournaments and that's generally how I make my predictions. Gut is even worse, because my instincts for teams is probably outdated by several years (I still always favour Turkey for example) and strangely, I might even do better with non League A teams as I was doing well predicting central Asian and Caucasus teams ha!

That said, I remember AFCON disappointing me with 1-0 games all the time. Nations League last seasons were pretty high-scoring as I recall.

Any BTTS values ser Trofo? I have about half my early picks with to nil scores. And only one draw (1-1) for the Italy game. They made me a lot of happy memories in EURO but I wonder if they've suddenly lost their form (and is Chiellini actually still lining up or did he completely retire?).

Not yet, I haven't even started checking the games yet. Will get to it tomorrow when the thing actually starts.

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17 of so far, with one more for sure. Check the OP guys and see if I missed somebody. I believe I did not since math checks out :)

I wasn't aware that Superbru have Grand Slam pool. Yeah, and it doesn't looks very exciting. But what would be perfect system for it? Something like predicting outcomes of all or most matches like 3:1, 2:3 or predicting exact outcomes like 6:3, 7:5, 6:4?

Predicting exact games result per set in Grand Slam is impossible, just imagine the odds for getting following correct 6:2 6:3 4:6 1:6 12:10? I mean who can get that correctly?

I would probably prefer if it is just ML for every single game, but correct set score could also work with similar points allocation as in football. That is something that could be guessed here and there.

Well today i put my predictions, lets see how bad or good can be. I think like buwaytress, internationals are really difficult to know.

For worst its first round after a lot of time without playing togheter in the national team.

Tomorrow i can see how its Italy in "finalissima" against my country Argentina.

shit, do you want to organize one pool for Wimbledon?
for us to try that? wasn't aware that there is a pool for tennis competition on Superbru, RG is missed, but Wimbledon would be interesting as well

guessing score as sets could bring a lot of same results, though, similar to Formula 1, there are results with several players having same score per round, and yellow cap has 0.5 points more :)

Superbru does not have a system like that for tennis. As i wrote before they have incredibly stupid prediction where you pick just 4 players to progress to next round.

If somebody knows a proper site that would let us do proper predictions let me know.

No way we would have same scores in early rounds. Hell first round has 64 matches. Plenty of variance there. Probably would be same results in last couple of days though.

Hi guys,,, I finally made my payment but it came up about short of 500 satoshis, I withdrew more than the supposed fee but the site I used still deducted additionally almost 500 satoshi.

I just thought I should mention that in case anyone looks at the escrow address and sees 0.99 mbtc and wonders what happened,,, I actually do not have a way to send the extra because of minimum so I am open for suggestions on how to fix my error. Can I put a 0.1 mbtc bet on Pool behalf on a x10 multi? If win I send it to pool :)

Let's see how this pool starts tonight with Poland vs Wales,I don't know that well International teams like many others but I think in this one it is easy to see that Poland should win after coming directly from if I am correct 9 victories while Wales suffering when playing outside their home.The good thing in this pool is that during almost a big chunk of this month we will have daily games and then in September we will have another month like this which will end our pool.For the yellow cap Superbru has made the rounds easier,for example the first round has only 8 games.

As i said in PM that should not be a problem, a couple os satoshi short payment is really not that much.

I like your idea of placing an extra bet as a way to increase the pool a bit more. If it were up to me I would go for odds of around 50 maybe so it is significant boost or nothing  ;D Go for it, choose the odds in a way that you feel comfortable and give us a ticket to cheer.

I usually like to pick 1st round for high number of goals scored. The least riskiest game for everyone, and no one needs to win it to have a chance to progress, so also like to pick underdogs but the games on offer aren't really worth that kind of pick in terms of odds.

Good luck with Italy. I just answered my own question about Chiellini, seems like he will grace American football next season.


Yes, do it! Go for 50x and make it a nice big fat surprise boost. I'm not bothered by 500 sats either. Why don't you use your own wallet though leea?

I've put in my picks too, but then these international matches are just always often boring but bet wise too, they're often not gamblers friendly, at least not for me.

I'll be going more with my guts in this pool, because you really just can't tell, but as for my bets it's going to be a lot of Under 2.5/3.5 and maybe a few ML, but BTTS would likely be a no way for me.

I am sceptical about both to score in National League but I am playing that market on Italy - Argentina match. I see this match as sort of super cup in national football and those games are usually quite open.

Odds for that are actually @2.1 which is quite high and I see alot of value in it.

This should be last game for Chielini in national jersey.

Looks like the first match will start today if I'm not mistaken so please count me in, @Trofo I've sent you a PM for the tx id. Thank you and good luck!

I think that you can make some crazy attempts with 1000-2000 odds like the one Steve shared on the Sportsbet topic. It is really good to see there is enough number of people in the pool right now. By the way, don't refrain from sharing them if you make betslips regarding to the UEFA Nations League.

Wales - Poland... I doubt Wales are going to go all-out to win this game, they have to focus on the World Cup Play-off match next sunday so, they can't risk their key players getting injured today, right? Then again, both NT today are gonna face their "easiest" rival in Group A4, so maybe Poland will take this game more seriously and try to get the 3pts? 🤔

Good luck!
my pick of the day is Scotland - Ukraine - betbuilder:
https://i.imgur.com/hwFfst1.png
too bad total bookings isn't available for the betbuilder, otherwise, easy over 3.5 bookings,, i have a feeling it's gonna be a very dramatic games with a lot of fouls and yellow cards

You have good instincts for today, Poland vs. Wales
and Scotland vs. Ukraine will meet today, I have placed a bet for the club, hopefully I can enjoy what I believe in.

In the UEFA Nations League competition, as scheduled for tomorrow USA vs. Morocco, Bulgaria vs. Republic of North Macedonia and many others, for me the team doesn't make me dizzy to bet, the most difficult for me is the team (Spain vs Portugal), it's a bit dizzy for me, both teams are both prestigious and good, what a good move to consider for Spain vs. Portugal tomorrow, I dare to score them, points I dare not, I hope luck is on my side today and tomorrow.

I had totally forgotten that a Wales still have a world cup qualifier against whichever team win between Scotland and Ukraine, my thoughts were that this was the final and that winner from Scotland vs Ukraine heads to the world cup group stage directly. The lineups for both teams have been released, and Wales indeed have not left a couple of their starters from the last WC Qualifiers against Austria on the bench, even the odds for Poland to win have drastically reduced from what it was earlier today.

Our pool has started and I am happy to inform you that we have 20 players this time around. I will work out the prizes in couple of days when I am sure there will not be anyone new joining. Sponsorship money should be arriving on escrow address soon as well.

So far, I am quite sure we will ignore highest yellow cap for the prizes and I am leaning towards rewarding first 5 places rather than 4. If you guys have any preferences now is the time to speak up. We should have 60 mBTC in the pool for the rewards.

Edit: reward structure draft
1. 28 mBTC
2. 15 mBTC
3. 10 mBTC
4. 5 mBTC
5. 1 mBTC (basically money back, will probably be closer to 2 mBTC in the end since I reserved 1 mBTC for fees and any leftovers will go in this reward)

agree with structure, cannot be better, and thanks once again to Sportsbet for sponsorship, they basically gave double the size of the pool pot
it is good to see first result and exact score

must say that I thought the match is later, to start now, and just checked the score
yeah, Wales is still there for a World Cup qualification, they are waiting for opponent from tonight match

The first game already finished and Poland won as expected,many people got the correct score of 2-1 and many others got the close one with the few remaining getting 0 points.The good thing about this pool is as I said that we have at least 1-2 games every day until near the end of June so it can keep us busy.

The reward structure is great and I don't think it needs anything to change.The first prize is really big compared to the number of participants as it will be 0.028 Bitcoin and up to the fourth place are great prizes,the only low one is the 5th one but this was not in schedule in the first place.

Damn, I missed first game prediction. I was sure that Nations League will begin on Thursday and today we only have Scotland - Ukraine qualifier and Finalissima.
Poland won 2:1 and it looked that Wales is focused more about upcoming World Cup Qualifier game.
Tomorrow Czech Republic - Switzerland and Spain - Portugal for the dessert.

I was pretty much surprised too see that you missed the first game, because usually for me I usually just put at least random result for the first round as soon as I join any pool, but hopefully that wouldn't cost you in the end.

Not surprised to see Poland win, but I went for the 2-0 victory so, it's a bit not so good not to have gotten a exact score to kickoff the campaign.

Ukraine won in a great a fashion to set up a final game vs Wales, the team were somewhat dominant and highly motivated, I'd say they were able to channel courage from the adversity the country is currently going, I'd like to see them going all the way fwiw, though.. I was highly moved by pictures of Zinchenko reducing to tears in the press conference before the game.

Well, we are champions from "la Finalissima" first edition. 8)

In relation with this thread i can say, i cant belive how bad Italy plays a tremendous disaster, if they play like thaht against german surely can lose for 4 goals.
I the second half Argentina swept the floor with them, they not lose for more goals because Argentina had mercy of them.

I star bad the pool i put a draw 1-1 and was so close only 5 minute left to got it.

as soon as i saw the lineups, i changed my 2-1 Wales prediction to a comfortable 2-0 Poland, but it was far from a comfortable win, eh? close game against Wales B team, says a lot about the home team, tbh

and yeah, the scots let me down and my betbuilder lost, i needed one more corner but they couldn't get it, Ukraine were the better side and deserved the win. Wales - Ukraine should be a good game, but maybe not as good as the Spain - Portugal tomorrow 🧐

Thank you Trofo and buwa I will make a pick this weekend on a careful multibet and share it here for the pool. I would really like to say I know these games but I would have picked Wales as my first pick if I did it and already lost  ;D

Good thing I made the opposite with 2-1 in the pool! I agree with tomahawk9 though how does that Wales team even score one goal and not allow more?

Nations League go!

Same here, had 1:1 for the pool and then wanted to change it to 2:1 when i heard about line ups but the game started and I did not make it. I thought I was lucky when Wales scored but it was not meant to be in the end.

I watched just second half of Argentina game and Italy was nowhere to be seen. It was all Argentina and Donnaruma saving what was possu to save.

Gotta agree, these kinds of games are heaven for bookies. People don't know what they're doing, coaches don't know what they'll be doing, players treat it as the glorified friendly the media makes it out to be.


Scary that we both thought the British teams would have a really good chance. I don't rate Poland at all, not even with Lewie there (he can't pull the team up on his own all the time), and I honestly thought Scotland would do everything they could to play their first WC since when I started watching WC. I'm actually really disappointed by the result, but good on Ukraine.

It's quite amazing to note how Poland where able to win the game coming from a goal down. At a point, I felt Wales will hold them to a draw as they managed to score an early goal, but at the end, it looked like they didn't have winning the game in mind, because they lost a lot of chances and possession as well.
 Probably they prepared for the game, but then, Poland showed their dominance once again. 👍👍 To them.

I thought that Wales wouldn't score any goal last night and I chose to make my prediction as a 2-0 victory for Poland. But Wales were even winning the match nearly. For the Spain-Portugal match today, I think that Portugal can win it even though the odds are telling the opposite now. I hope that we can have a match that would be delightful to watch.

I think that the game between Spain and Portugal is a beautiful game to watch no matter which result is the final one.The odds are just an assumption of the bookies in such events where both teams are equally strong in terms of quality and performance in their team.In such events I do not suggest to look at the odds or what the bookies say but to choose whatever personal feelings we have for this game.The odd may be 2 for Spain and 4 for Portugal but if I believe Portugal will win I place a bet on them not caring much what the bookies say.This is true only in events when two strong teams play against each other.

This is the beauty of the night for sure and I am really interested to see the line ups (especially for Spain) and the way these teams will perform. It is end of the season and I feel like some team will take this competition seriously while some others will treat it as a prelude to holidays and just have fun.

@fortebettor
I believe you are the only paid participant that did not already enter out pool. Just follow the link in the PM I sent you. Hurry up or at least make predictions on Superbru.

Portugal are very fond of defensive football, and Spain can also play cautiously against such an opponent, because if Portugal manages to score an early goal, they can close on the defensive and hold the score. Based on this, I believe that the match will be cautious with a small amount of goals, one goal can decide the outcome of the match. It's hard to say who will be the winner here, I think the chances are equal.

Not long now till kick off. Spain are missing some  notable players with the likes of de gea and Laporte missing. Thiago is expected to play and would probably make the key difference as he can easily outclass Fernandes. In turns off attack I feel this is where Spain will come up short, even with recent performances I wonder if they can score if the game becomes fast pace. I expect Portugal to win, dominating the second half. Looking forward to it. 

It is true that Portugal has good defense lineup but it is not solid also. Spain is favorite if we compare between Spain and Portugal. Spain has good front line who can destroy the defense line of Portugal. But this match will be very competitive.

looking at starting line-ups, both teams are taking this match pretty seriously
Ronaldo is on the bench, but he is on the bench after all, I thought he will be on his yacht tonight, TBH

and Spain is also playing in a pretty strong team, so expecting harsh duel, far from glamorous friendly match, as KDB put it, when asked is he looking forward to Nations league - no, I don't

Luis Enrique is a top coach, in addition Spain have a young promising team now... I think they will humiliate the Portuguese pensioners tonight! ;D Although the previous 2 friendlies have ended in 0-0 draws, I think Spain will win today... According to the statistics, there could be a lot of goals after goalless matches today...

Well i didnt expect Cristiano Ronaldo outside of the eleven starting. Its because some injury? or only to prove some other players into the rotation?

Lets see how i end in this first leg of predictions.

I forgot to say, quite a good amount of prices for the winners.

Have no idea why Ronaldo did not start, I guess fatigue. He came on later and played without problems. My first points with this game and correct score so draw paid out after loosing points in last minutes yesterday.

I must admit I am really happy with the size of our pool. We have a couple of extra players added to the usual mix of us who play all the pools  ;D

Enrique has done a good job with this Spain side, they move the ball around well and can dominate play, but in terms of converting opportunities to goals, spain still has some job to do, they are not very efficient in front. Portugal on the other hand in today's game could barely keep the ball and looked more alive when Ronaldo was substituted in. They are lucky to have been able to get behind and the Spanish defense to get an equaliser. Both teams still have a lot of job to do before the world cup.

The coach may be trying to get them used to playing without Ronaldo, likewise giving other younger talents a chance to get confident.

https://i.ibb.co/rwDDXww/matches.jpg (https://ibb.co/2kGGpkk)

It looks like I'm having a very lucky day again.  ;D  After predicting the exact score of the Poland - Wales game, I managed to do the same for both of the games today also. I'm still very surprised to have a this much strong start to the pool in fact.  :D  I don't have any idea how far I can go like this but I'm just enjoying the nine points I have collected so far.  ;D

The result of the Spain - Portugal game wasn't surprising to me because I believed that the game was a close one to end in a draw. There was no big strength difference between these two teams. However, I wasn't very confident about my prediction for the Czech Republic - Switzerland game. I was worried about how much the away team would be capable of in this game. Thankfully, I have left this behind successfully too.  :)

Spain itself has a pretty nice team at the moment. A completely different team than the past World Cups. We also had to make room for the youth. And now they all play at strong clubs. This team also won 5-0 against Germany a while ago, you don't do that just like that. I don't think Spain has a chance at the title, but if they have a good draw they can go far. A draw is of course very important in a tournament. It is already June, the World Cup is now starting to come into view.

In just two days you are far ahead of the second place and big congrats for getting all three out of three games correct,that is something new in a pool as far as happenings go here.Personally I had both games as draws,Spain 0-0 and Switzerland 1-1 and I never thought Switzerland to lose the game,maximum they would get a draw.On this personal level I climbed two places from yesterday so I get this day as a positive overall.The fact that Switzerland lost though it shows that most teams do not take this tournament seriously so it will be difficult in terms of predictions as it looks here,beside you everybody else is almost in near equal results.

I expected a win from Spain to be honest and seeing Ronaldo on the bench was also a reason to back Spain to win, and they were ahead for most of the game only to give it up with less than 10 minutes to play.

I checked the H2H between Switzerland and Czech before the game and I saw that Czech have actually won the last 3 game against Switzerland, but I decided to in validate those result simply because of how long ago the games were, the latest being as far back as 2008, these are completely different teams and era, I said to myself and opted for the 1-0 Win for the Swiss team.

What a rush of luck and exact scores has made luckyguy (never best say that nickname hahaha)

For my part im the oposite one , but Yesterday Poland Wales was so close to end 1-1 and today Spain have the 2-1 to win but they cant make it. So im in the bottom alone.

Bahaha Spain-Portugal gave the first draw, so that scuppered me quick. Just hope it doesn't do that for my actual draw picks. The other thing I did NOT see coming were the 8 cards, not quite a friendly game I keep making it out to be?

Meanwhile Georgia kicked off their League C campaign with a win (duh) but I followed them when they won League D wonder if this could give them a chance to promote into League B (where they will of course relegate again heh).

Well done luckyguy, but I'll stop letting you win so easy this day's games =D

^That is the power of positive thinking when picking out forum nickname. I'll have my nick changed to luckiestGuyAlive, then you are all looking at my back  ;D

Be careful with Croatia today guys, we are missing a lot of defenders and some very important players in other positions like Perišić and Brozović. Modrić also played CL final a couple of days ago and he is far from certain. My betting advice is skip or both to score for this one.

No matter how many defenders Croatia misses tonight and other important players like the one you mention,I am pretty sure and confident that even the bench of Croatia is much better than Austria if we compare both teams quality,yes even we compare the bench of Croatia with the first 11 of Austria.I placed a bet on Croatia to win to nil and that is what I think it will happen,I don't think that Austria is capable of surprising Croatia tonight,of course if both teams play at full power because some teams may not take this event as seriously as the Euro or the World Cup for example.

There is more. For instance our mentality, I am not sure how serius we will be against opponent that isn't really Tier 1 in competition that is not that important. Austria will play on 100 % for sure and will try to take us down, don't think we will do the same.

Then our manager Dalic lost his father and left camp to take care of everything and mourn properly. So we have bad preparation, lots of absences and questionable motive. Lots of question marks and game best to be skipped when betting for serious money.

As promised,,, here is the almost 50x bet I made. It is slightly below 50x but I made it with 3.5 USDT (Which is over 0.1 mbtc right now) so it is effective as 0.1mbtc bet at 50x :)

https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/415b2407-41bf-4a0b-8cee-57ee3d49e170

If I win, I will pay it as bonus pool prize for not making a fee.

My sorry in advance for picking games that I do not even know, I went with "pretty" odds on the featured games Sportsbet showed  ;D

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@Trofo

  ILuckyGuyI = Did he join the pool before the games started?

Croatia have been playing badly for a long time now and are not the strong team they were 5 or 10 years ago... Although there are a lot of experienced players in the team who play for top clubs... True, Austria have never beaten Croatia in their history of head-to-head encounters... I think it would be logical to bet on both teams to score...

I do think Spain is the best team in Europe right now and not because of the players ...but simply because of their style that cannot be matched even after 10 years since they won the last Euro. Also , Portugal had a bit of luck yesterday and they should be happy with that 1-1 so my eyes at World Cup and on this Nations Legue are on Spain for sure.

Yep - skip Croatia today - too many uncertainties. Austria is not really a good team so I don't expect them to take advantage of the situation though.
We have France at home on Monday - so not the best schedule considering all the issues the team is facing.

On the other hand Belgium - Netherlands sounds like a good game for over goals or BTTS.

Yes he joined before the first game started but even if he did not I would still allow him to participate. I am usually leaving one week grace period to join after the pool starts. Not much chance of someone gaining unfair advantage that way.

Thank you all guys.  ;D  I'm also very surprised to be this much successful at the beginning of the pool. My luck isn't very well in the F1 pool these days but I have had a solid start here.

@buwaytress  Haha. There are three big games today and it is going to be very difficult for me to keep up this performance but let's see. Maybe my luck hasn't run out yet.  :P

@Trofo  Yeah, I've also started thinking that my nickname has some kind of magic inside.  ;D  It looks like it's helping me a lot in this kind of contests and pools.  :D

I think Spain needs to learn how to kill off games when they have a lead, too wasteful. Portugal is just something else. I don't know why Portugal can't win  games when they play. They have one of the best goalkeepers in the world Diogo Costa, Jose Sa, Rui Patricio. Defenders like Joao Cancelo, Guerreiro, Ruben Dias, Nuno Mendes, Pepe and others. They have Bernardo Silva, Danilo Pereira Bruno Fernandez, Ruben Neves, Joao Moutinho in the midfield positions and best forwards in Cristiano Ronaldo, Guedes, Diogo Jota, Otavio, Andre Silva, Rafael Leao and others but cannot set up a winning squad to deliver.

I had high expectations of Portugal but sadly I was disappointed. They could have done better but instead they were running around in the pitch in a disorganized manner. No teamwork. No coordination. They were struggling. I must say that I was truly impressed with the performance of the Danilo. The team would have conceded more goals if not for him. On the other had, although the Spanish team exhibited good passes and teamwork, they could have scored more goals if they had good strikers. They need a finisher. A lot of opportunities went to waste.

I don't think Spain is the best team in Europe right now... How about Belgium or the Netherlands, who by the way will be playing today? Or France or Germany... And if you believe the last European Cup, the best team now is Italy, who sensationally didn't make it to the World Cup, lol! ;D The English have also raised a great new team...

Sorry, I didn't read the rules of this thread carefully...

I agree with you in favoring the Spanish national team over the rest of the teams. As the Spanish players adapt among themselves, they are good at team play with accurate passes and possession of the ball inside the field as much as possible and can break the ball out of the opponent in a short time. Now the Spanish national team has 1 point and they have to think about the upcoming matches and achieve positive results in order to compete for the title.

Tonight we have a derby match between Belgium and Holland. I think it will be exciting and worth the bet with good odds for the underdog, so my eyes are on Holland. Can they do it with the Belgian flag having the advantage of winning? ;)

the other day De Bruyne said that he doesn't care about the nations league because it's just glorified friendlies... makes me wonder whether Belgium is going to take the games seriously or not  :-X  Netherlands are playing good football under van Gaal, they've scored at least one goal in their last 9 games, so yeah BTTS sounds like a lock with Belgium also having a lot of firepower

There will be plenty of goals and loads of dropped point from favourites, listen to me and win the week ;)

But nah, do how you're doing and everything will fall into place. Being a short pool, should be a lot of luck playing into the standings. I'm not too concerned with my current position, as I'm consulting my local witch doctor shaman guy tomorrow and he'll tell me everything I need to know.

@toma I'm going with Belgium win but betting-wise, Dutch upset!

Belgium? C'mon... By squad it's one of best teams, but with their golden generation they didn't managed to reach finals of any major tournaments. Netherlands - I don't think so. I would take Spain and France as best teams now, but it's only personal preferences. Italy is the best team officially after winning EURO 2020, but in 2022 their performance went down.

Me too, but I don't have much confidence. And I skip France - Denmark game, Denmark looks criminally underrated without a reason. Maybe BTTS.

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Will my comeback start today?  :P

I cant go far back.

Im for Argentina so i see a lot of CONMEBOL matches, one thing i see a lot in european matches is the teams are really irregular in their performances.

For example i see Turkey maybe winning or making a good match again big teams and after in the next game strugling a lot agains teams like Estonia. So its really difficult to know the outcome of the matches.

that is a way to go in this Nations league
I thought that teams will not play with their top players, but obviously there is a pressure for everyone to play

really did not expected to see KDB playing for Belgium tonight, but rivalry with Netherlands put all the best into team
no goals yet, but I expect a Belgium win tonight

The task has been made more cumbersome for them as Netherlands now leads by two goals thanks to Bergwijn and Memphis Depay. Coming into this game most like myself were really expecting Belgium to already be in front, but they are not living up to expectations even with the quality of players on their squad, very poor performance and an embarrassment in front of their supporters.

heh! i was the only one who predicted Austria to win

70' min and 4-0 Netherlands. Easy money, easy life

Croatia also getting destroyed 0-3 at home. Denmark with the 1-1 vs France, for now... not a bad day for the underdogs edit* 2-1 Denmark, it was really good day for the underdogs  ;D

A very remarkable result: Belgium - Netherlands 1:4
You would think with such a result that all opportunities have been used by the Netherlands. but the opposite is true. At halftime it should have been 0-5 but it was only 0-1. It's actually a miracle it only got 1-4. A big punishment for the Belgians. People have been talking about a golden generation for years, but there was little or nothing to see on this evening.

If somebody got a winning multi ticket today - kudos, that is some accomplishment. Really strange results and I missed most of my choices today.

Don't say I did not warn you guys about Croatia. I am just mad at myself for believing we are strong enough to score at least one goal.

Damn, what a results in Nations League. 0 points from today's games in predictor, but at least it was profitable day in betting. Yeah, I lost Belgium ML bet, but I got nice profit from goals over and BTTS in few games. It was difficult to see coming such big wins of Austria and Netherlands. And before game I said that Denmark is criminally underrated, but honestly, I didn't expected their win, draw is best what they could achieve I thought.
Italy - Germany today. Thoughts?

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I'm only barely above you in terms of points so far, I've only gotten 1.5 points, and it's from the first fixture and I've gotten point blank since, It's highly surprising that someone have gotten as many as 9 points.

I'm just glad that I've not had any money on the line yet, it'd have been a complete streak of losses 😂

Holy f*ck is all I can say about the results of the yesterday games,I lost my bet on Croatia but the more I was surprised from the lost game of France as I had put a lot of money over them (in crypto).Then Holland destroyed Belgium 1-4 which was also an unexpected results for most of the people,only a few people got any points from yesterday games.I am starting to believe 100% that the big teams do not care much about this tournament and we will continue to see a lot of upset results.Let's see what happen in today games.

I watched Italy against Argentina and they were so bad that I immediately placed bets against them in all remaining games :) I hope that is enough of an answer to you.

Granted I am curious to see how Germany will look, especially in defense. They looked uncharacteristically shaky in recent history. Both to score could be a good bet as well.

So, me being me, changed two things. Decided Trofo's advice was to go unheeded and changed to home win, and then decided Netherlands should be my pick again, both for picks and bets.

So I traded one win for another, but made it worse by placing bets on a live game I thought was a sure win.

The gods of football smiled upon me, but one of them farted.


@swogerino but if the big teams didn't care, why did Netherlands go and thrash Belgium for? Haha

@Trofo this time I listen to you. Germany great odds!

many surprises that happened, the team that is not favorite to win can actually turn things around very convincingly. I was very surprised by the results achieved by Belgium, they were humiliated 1-4 by the Netherlands, I also lost a lot of my money in this match.
and also World champions france also suffered a painful defeat after Denmark was able to bounce back in the second half by turning things around to 2-1.
seems right, they are not too serious to face this tournament, we should be more careful in betting in the next match, many things are possible to happen.

I did the same for Italy,I doubt they will be able to hold Germany tonight,even a draw in this game I would consider a really good result for Italy seeing their recent form.Also England should do well and have an easy win against Hungary tonight.In paper this look like easy games to place bet on especially the England one but seeing what happened yesterday night I am refraining from betting even a single cent anymore in the Nations League where we had some pretty crazy results so far.

@buwaytress finally some big team that did play like they know to play,Holland got away and played that beautiful offensive football they know to play.I had a draw in that game as I though Belgium is really high ranked at the FIFA standings but I was wrong.

In today's group A matches of the Nations League, I bet on the victories of England and Italy. England is the clear favorite in the match against Hungary and any result other than their victory will be a big surprise. In the Italy-Germany match, according to the bookmakers, the guests are the favorite, but I think that the Italians will prove to be the better team in this match.

Considering yesterday's surprises, I will think twice before betting on the favorites today.

With 16 wins in 24 games played against the Hungary, England have an impressive ratio. Hungary, on the other hand, only won five matches against England. England has historically been a more successful team, but Hungary has matured over the last few years, and they have something to prove in this match. While there is no doubt that England has a better team on paper, I believe that Hungary can at least take a point away from England, especially with the support of its fans at home.

I have been showing a really terrible performance in the UEFA Nations League pool so far. It wouldn't be wrong to say that I still haven't predicted the results of almost all of the matches correctly. We still have a very long way ahead of us. But if the match results continue to be like this, I'll be the biggest candidate for the last position of the pool. :P

https://i.ibb.co/ysZy6bP/1-5.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

There is still a long way to go I think you can get a correct prediction so try to focus more on the upcoming matches!!

I'm thinking if Hungary can beat England in the first half with good odds @7,40.!! ;D I'll guess before placing this tempting bet. I think tonight the Germany match will be more exciting so I will try to watch it and if I get the chance I will bet live

Right now we are in the initial stages,in fact tonight ends the first round with 8 games in Superbru,the fact that the persons are near each other except the leader of the standings means we still have equal chances to make progress in the standings.We have to see the games of tonight,if for example England does not win then pretty much I can say that in the Superbru first round the majority of the big teams do not get these games in the Nations League seriously.There is a lot of games still for the June matches so lots of changes expected in the standings.

don't get yourself down because of that, it is what it is for the moment
I had exact score in first match, and all misses since that one

but there is a lot to play at the moment, and expect from the leader, all other players are in a distance where one exact score can change everything

looking at Hungary tonight, they are up at the moment, did not look at the pool, but probably no one predicted that
Italy and Germany tonight, yeah, Italy was bad against Argentina, but I think they will be good tonight

edit: Hungary won over England for the first time after 60 years, last win was at world cup in Chile 1962 (although without their best player ever than, since Ferenc Puskas was already playing for Real Madrid and Spain national in 1962)

What a competition, this has been.

I don't think I've ever had it this bad, in any pool I've participated in, England were able to continue streak for me, at least this time it's more comforting that no one from the pool guess the result.

Germany vs Italy is still going on, it's still all square and with look of things, it might end as stalemate, and guess who'd be getting another wrong result, you guessed right, that'd be me!!!

France was dominating the ball, but Denmark took quick attacks and cornelius' finisher got 3 points. No matter how easy Cornelius' first goal seems, not every football player can make the ball hit the ground and finish it with a single shot. Likewise, in the 2nd gold, he had a great shot despite all the contact and bad angle. Nobody takes this tournament very seriously, it's like a practice match. But that doesn't mean Denmark played badly, they played well last year as well. It was a very good game to watch, I enjoyed this tournament this year actually.

England losing made this bad not for you but for I believe all the participants of this pool.I thought Germany was going to have an easy win but so far the game is ending 1-1 which I think at least some people will get a point or couple of points from this night games.Personally I got 0 points from yesterday games and today games which like you for me is also one of the worst performance in every pool I have take part in.It looks like this pool is going to be a very difficult one for anyone.The first round according to Superbru ended tonight.Let's hope starting from tomorrow the results will be somewhat better than these last 2 nights.

people who backed the underdogs be like:

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it's only Round 1 and there's still 40 games to go, but yeah, i'm off to a really bad start as well, already 9pts behind first place :/  and about England, clown show, some players don't deserve to be on the NT let alone starters

I don't agree with you, with your statement saying, they are not that serious in this tournament.
I'm sure they I'm serious about this tournament, This usually happens in a big match, The underdog team sometimes also suffers unexpected defeats.
proof They are serious in this tournament is because they both teams between Belgium and the Netherlands both fielded core players in this match.
I'm sure Belgium after experiencing this shocking defeat will definitely respond well, we'll just have to wait for the next match. I hope Belgium can win the next game.

so for me personally, the nations league remains uninteresting, even though i am a very big football fan, these games and this competition are nothing more than friendly matches 2.0 :P
many coaches try new tactics or new players to have them then for the very big competitions such as the world cup or european championship in the best case to have played.
and in my eyes, that's why these crazy results happen.

just my 2 sats ;D

already in a few days the surprise continued, and again England suffered a humiliating defeat against Hungary, even though on paper the quality of England was far superior.
the fatigue factor of the players after the competition may also affect their performance, but if the favorite things continue to get negative results, I am increasingly convinced that the seriousness of the big teams in facing this tournament is a little questionable, maybe this tournament is just a warm-up event for those who will compete in the Qatar world cup in the next few months.

I cannot believe my eyes, I lost our big bet but that was not surprising of course (well except France but sometimes you have to allow the big teams to lose) but England killed my first chance at winning money since weeks.

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Such a big shame about this ticket because only one left now is Mexico and just France let us down :(

And it was the lowest odds too as well I just do not understand why this happens with me!

Not sure honestly which is worse for me. Spain not able to win or France losing or England losing? I mean, we all kinda knew that this whole tournament would be full of surprises, but Spain sort of at least had an excuse with a lot of experimental players but Englang losing with supposedly their best squad? Why is the media so kind to them I don't get it.

Even if for fun to lose to Hungary is not a good look.

I expected that there will be some strange results in Nations League since many teams don't consider it that important but I never expected all the favorites to fail. Some of them failed spectaculary like Croatia or Belgium, and some of them lost against much weaker teams like England.

Problem is it does not play in our advantage to pick upsets in pools like this one over the long run and then we all do badly except our table leader. I am giving one last chance to NL on my tickets today with bets on Spain and Portugal. If this blows, only underdogs from now on :)

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Still not putting any money on the line, and I'm fine with that for now, I guess it's probably been a long season for these players just to get back to National teams for so called glorified friendly, but I thought they'd at least for some dignity and you'd expect scouts from several clubs in these games giving the transfer window season, but there is not show forth for now. I'll stick to my style for now, but then I'll probably just switch to draws only there after.

I did the same.Put a win on Portugal and Spain tonight.They drew against each other in the first game of the their group and the game looked like they were playing normally.Now if they play normally tonight too,then it is only natural for them to win their games against Czech and Switzerland.I am not going to be as radical as you and only go for the underdogs as I think most teams will probably wake up after losing their first game should bring them back to their senses.

Both (Spain and Prtugal) are expected to win their games tonight, still risky to bet on them after we saw some very surprising results in the last days. Bookmakers pay like 1.7 for a win of Spain or Portugal in their respective games.
There will be also Sweden vs Norway (teams of similar strength) and Serbia vs Slowenien (Serbia expected to win) tonight.

Anyone made the same mistake as me thinking Wales game was somehow part of the pool? I knew it was a WC qualifier, but somehow my mind put it as one of the games today, checked the pool with some memory of picking 1-0 Wales and saw... it wasn't.

Heh.


Exactly. I am my own proof that the underdog doesn't pay off in the long run. Of course, it could be a different thing for a pool with 50 games or so, and maybe with 10 games left if you're either really far behind or struggling in mid position, could be worth a thought to go for one or two big upsets and make up for lost ground or widen the gap.

I won NL, but lost other shitty leg. Such an idiot.

I think that Portugal are definitely going to win in their home stadium today. About the Spain's match, I picked a 2-1 win for Spain in the pool. But now I think that both teams will not be able to score and it can be a little unproductive match.

i think we're in for another round of the Nations League circus. Next team to put their clown shoes on: Spain. 4 minutes in and it's 1-0 Czech Republic. Portugal conceded after just 5 minutes but it was cancelled by the VAR... Wth is going on?? :) i don't think i'm in the mood for placing bets in friendly matches anymore

did not expected from Czech republic much in Nations league, but they won first, and now have 1:0 in second match
Portugal is now up against Swiss, but have to say that Spain looked more like a winner to me, compared to Portugal

other Nations league groups are also full of surprises (B, C ranges), so it could be that these are just friendly matches, as milky way for betting companies

Portugal is now ahead 3-0 and it's safe to say they will go home as a winner tonight.
Spain on the other hand is behind 1-0. The still have the 2nd half to equalize or even win the game, but the Czech Republic is not an easy opponent tonight. Current odds are 2.1/3.0/3.75 (Czech Rep vs Spain), so bookmakers favor the Czech Rep now.

Maybe Portugal took it easy in the beginning but once the VAR disallowed the goal for Switzerland immediately after that Portugal crashed Switzerland as it is winning by 3 goals lead right now near the end of the first half.It looks like finally a strong team is winning comfortably against a rather strong opponent like Switzerland.I am confident that Spain would not want to be beaten by Czech Republic and I have high hopes they will turn things around during the second half,restoring confidence in people who still believe that stronger teams should win in normal conditions.

I lost my magic for some games but it affected everyone so I'm still comfortable for now.  ;D  However, I wonder whether today will be a good day for me. I picked Spain to win by 2-1 and Portugal to win by the same score also. The Czech Republic - Spain game has been very well for me so far as the first half ended in a 1-1 draw. If Spain get ahead and finish the game by that score I would be very happy.  :D  I won't be able to predict the exact score for the Portugal - Switzerland game but it feels still good to see Portugal leading by 3-0 already now.

I don't know how Czechs started to play such good football but there is still whole second half for Spain to turn it completely around. Keeping my fingers crossed since I need a winning ticket. Too much losses on Nations League already and this is the last chance I am giving to this competition. I have a nice double Portugal + Spain and I am counting Portugal as a win already :)

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I am very surprised to see the result of this match. I did not expect Spain to lose against the Czech Republic 2:1,and now the match is in favor of them. I do not think that Spain will be able to return to the result!!!

Many players have already indicated that they are not looking forward to playing in the Nations League. The Netherlands gave Belgium a beating, and seemed to be a mediocre country. Many players may not have felt like it at all. But the Netherlands may also be better than people think. I think we can conclude that Belgium no longer has the golden generation as they have been called in recent years. The decline of France was of course the pinnacle and can now be forgotten by the group winners.

Well at least i scored my first point in this pool, this its getting really tough.

I cant belive how Spain allow Czech Republic to score two goals. When they draw the match i thinked they can win easily but that clearly not happen.

I went for my first draw with Portugal vs Switzerland and then Spain to win, but neither of it happened. You really just can't predict these teams, I've not seen any of the games, probably that's having an effect, perhaps watching a few of the games might help me make better decision but not as much as going for Czech draw or a France losing to Denmark right ?

Portugal won convincingly over Switzerland with a score of 4-0. Spain, which was predicted to win over the Czechs, was only able to achieve a 1-1 draw.

Portugal dominated the game against Switzerland with 15 shots. In my opinion, João Cancelo played very well. He is able to do a good job of helping Cristiano Ronaldo in attack and not forgetting to help defend.

Portugal takes this tournament very seriously, in contrast to Spain who seem to underestimate Switzerland despite their superior possession of the ball.

Yes but its very very strange to see Switzerland defend so bad, if Switzs have any good its defense so i dont know why they play so bad in defence in this match.

Nobody waits for a landslide.


I dont know what to excpect really for the next games.

Portugal 4-0 Switzerland

Portugal drew 1-1 with Spain in their previous match. Ronaldo was not in the squad. But against Switzerland, I was almost certain that Portugal would win. Although Switzerland is a good enough team. But I bet Portugal's victory because Ronaldo was in the squad. But I thought Portugal would win 1-0 or 2-1. However, they got a remarkable 4-0 win.


Czech Republic 2-2 Spain

The performance of the Czech Republic surprised me. They possessed only 21% of the ball, and in 90 minutes they made a total of 3 shots. However, they managed to draw the match 2-2. Although we saw the dominance of Spain in the whole match, they could not win.

Terrible outing for most people but I guess we all scored the point in Portugal, but look at SwordsRex and MoSala guessing the draw for Spain correctly! I get haunted by seeing all the familiar names like MoSala appear again and again in all the pools  ;D but who is SwordsRex by the way?

Anyway now you guys who did not watch know how bad it is for us who never get the chance to watch most games. Like we are literally relying on reports to predict  ::)

Yea, the Czech Republic was very efficient last night. But one should consider that they focused on defense after their early lead and Spain is a team known for their usually high ball posession %. They defended well and even were able to get a 2-1 lead again. In the end Spain was lucky to go home with a point, even though looking at the overall game they would have deserved a win.

In the next days are some more interesting pairings:
Croatia vs France
Italy vs Hungary
Germany vs England
Belgium vs Poland
Wales vs Netherlands

People did and do complain about the Nations League, but it does produce nice pairings ;)

Yeah, only 2 guys got points from the first 2 games in the new round. Really not pleased I picked the wrong games for draws, it was always going to be tight for Spain but I thought their young 'uns would run circles around the Czechs, seems I was wrong.

Definitely did not see the big scoreline from Portugal coming. Ronaldo even getting 2 and the assist by the time I stopped paying attention.

So far no discernible pattern for me. BTTS, Under/Over are all really evened out.

Yeah we have nice pairings on paper but then the games start and half of teams look like they don't really wanna be there and play these mostly pointless games.

Only pattern I see in these games is lost tickets  ;D No matter what I pick it ends as loosing ticket for me.
I said I will not bet on it anymore and already placed 4 tickets that will be loosing by the end of the day.

Yeah, so far it's so difficult to predict results, at least in League A. I doubt that we would see so many upsets in EURO or World Cup qualifiers.
Though, can't complain much about betting, so far it's been profitable. Not ML, but other markets. And in League B, C and D things is way more predictable.

The UEFA Nations League has been really like a disaster for me so far. All of the betslips I made lost already. Because of this I don't think of making any bets until the leagues start or maybe even until the World Cup starts. :D Even though the results of the matches haven't been as we expected, we can still see good matches in terms of being watchable. Good luck against France today. :)

I don't bet on it - mostly because I really feel that the players don't care about it after the end of the season and in a year in which we will have the World Cup.
In the predictor I got 2.5 points from 10 games - which shows how good that decision not to bet on these really was ;D

Today Croatia is playing France - with both teams losing the 1st games to inferior opposition. I did bet on France here - the odds were simply too good.

You are not alone,we have almost all here lost money in the Nations League,some of us also said in a radical way that we are not going to bet a single ticket anymore on the Nations League,I also said something similar yet here I am placing bets on Denmark to win and France to win.The gamblers do not imagine life without a form of gambling,especially when big events like this one are ongoing it is only natural for us to gamble and watch the game with emotion,otherwise we would not be gamblers.

I guess for each lost bet there is one that was won  ;D
Somebody that consistently put their money on the weaker teams probably made a nice profit by now, even though there is no guarantee that this will continue in the next round of games. But it seems that the "strong" teams are not very motivated, whereas the less stron teams see their chances to get good results against the teams with the big names.

yeah, there are few upsets in lower divisions, but way less than in League A
for me, pool is a booger, had exact score in first match and all red since then, but had few good picks so far (do not follow profitability in betting, it is beer money anyway, but I think that one good ticket so far is enough to keep me above the line)

tonight, Croatia and France looks as goalless draw, although I picked France to win in a pool

The quotes by bookmakers are more equally distributed in tonight's games, it seems they also learned from the games in the last days.  ;)
Croatia vs France is at 3.3/2.95/2.3 (20min into the game, score 0-0). I think France will win, they need to give some retribution after their loss
Austria vs Denmark is at 2.9/3.5/2.4. Given the fact that Denmark bet France, they are not hugely favored against the much weaker Austria. Denmark should be able to at leat not lose tonight.

Ronaldo brace against Switzerland and Messi scored a glut against Estonia. The both great GOAT have proven again and have show their impressive performance individually for their country. Perhaps we are still waiting to watch them play in the Qater World Cup. There will incredible and brilliant performance from the two world great GOAT, they have been topping for over a decade and the two high level players are even some young lads play model in the football world. Let's see what they Cristiano Ronaldo and Leo Messi will bring up in the Nation league.

It is usually a case of higher motivation in weaker teams. They always want to prove something while heavy weights just want the season to end so they can rest and be at their maximum for new season and upcoming World Cup.

But there was so many strange results this time around that I am really stumped. It is normal to see a couple of those surprises but almost all favorites loosing does not happen very often.

I'm back on track - 2 exact predictions in a row and I'm 3rd now, up by 7 places  8)
Austria - Denmark game was delayed by 1.5 hour, but it was worth waiting because it was entertaining game to watch. Austria had so many moments to score and achieve draw, but failed to do it. And did you saw what huge mistake Schmeichel did? It doesn't happens often with him.
Didn't watched Croatia - France game in full, but from what I saw 1:1 result reflect game.
On Tuesday we have big game between Germany and England. And Hungary will face Italy. Can they make another upset?

I keep being a shit in this tournament hahaha.

I put the two exact score today, but with a little detail, in the incorrect matches hahahaa. I put 1-1 to Austria - Denmark and 1-2 for Croatia France. So i still in the bottom and maybe i destroy my chances to win the big price with this start.

Well done well done!

I am just so glad I got 1 exact, cannot believe France made such a dumb draw but it seems a lot of people knew that was going to happen. Croatia beaten by so many goals and then draw to France, how is this a match against one of the World Cup favorites?

I hope Germany trounce England and wake them up they look so so bad.

Congrats,I had France to win 0-2 and that penalty destroyed my hopes for a correct score.However in the next game I got the exact score,finally a good result for me in this pool so far.I think many people got Denmark right here so quite some people climbed positions yesterday in the standings.Unfortunately for me I had both France and Denmark to win in my bet and I lost the bet but at least seeing France played well and also Denmark doing great again and leading the group has reinstated in me the fact that I can bet again now as not always the big teams lose in Nations League.

I should be making money with all these upsets but no, I know the minute I start betting on the Hungaries of this tourney, the tide will turn and I'll lose everything.

Maybe I should bet $1 against all my predictions here though. Get them all exact.


Denmark + France looked like such a delicious pairing, did they not?

Definitely stay away. I'm actually getting better performances in Afcon games right now.

Really pissed about Nations League, worst ever percentage of wins for me in last 15 years, that is saying something.

Now it gets to the point of pride to just get winning ticket but I will definitely drop my stakes on this tournament.

My tip for the day, both to score on Germany-England. Germany doesn't look so good in defence and England has strong bench to refresh the team. Should be goals.

I thought I finally got one win after France took the lead and Dalić took both Modrić and Kovačić off. Of course we had a double successful VAR check and a penalty was given to Croatia.

I can't even be happy about it, this Nations League is killing me after such a long season. I can't even imagine how the players are feeling and I would not have even watched the game if I did not bet on it.

Really crazy results all around - I'm skipping it from now on, otherwise this is happening to me as well:

In today's group A Nations League matches, I bet on the victories of the hosts. England quite unexpectedly lost in the first match against Hungary, and Germany is an opponent a class better. I do not believe that Hungary will made a second surprise within a few days and get any points in match against Italy.

Pool is now officially closed. We are all in and everybody has paid. We have little less than 61 mBTC for rewards and they will be as follows:
Rewards:
1. 28 mBTC
2. 15 mBTC
3. 10 mBTC
4. 5 mBTC
5. 2 mBTC
we have almost 1 mBTC reserved for fees and everything that is left will get added to 5th place reward. If it is not enough (it should be way more than enough) it will get taken from 5th place reward.

I upped 5th place a bit from last draft since we got one more participant and updated the OP as well.

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Have fun guys and I feel bad for not creating this topic as self-moderated. I never had problems with outsiders before in our traditional pools but this one seems to attract them. Sorry for that but I really don't like the power to delete posts in democratic community but I guess it will be a must in the future.

Yes the prizes are quite good and everybody so far has a chance to fight up to the third place without problems,we will have daily games like 2 of them everyday,it looks like ILuckyGuy is moving away but there are a lot of games still so we are still early in the pool and as I said everybody so far has equal chances to fight for that third place (in theory also for the first one but that one looks like far away).

I like the democracy like you said but I never ever post in a pool thread which is made for a certain event,for example at your pools Trofo like Serie A,La Liga and I don't remember how many you have but I never post there at all,this should be the case with everybody else.Everyone insider or outsider should respect the rules of the pool.

It's so funny how my morale for the tournament have dropped drastically over just few matches into the competition, it's almost as though the players aren't even interested in these games and would rather have their summer somewhat free and perhaps camping for club friendlies in some nice cities, because I don't want to imagine the results would have been the same if it were to be a world cup that's going on. Going for an upset in the pool is just harder when you can't decide if you should go for a draw or the favorite to lose, the draw would seem more probable, but you get to drop points against almost all other participant of the pool if the favorite should win.

I know exactly what you mean about pride, some inane desire to prove to myself I can get one big win out of this. It's not like I've got anyone to prove myself to either. I don't think it's my worst streak (that's many years ago getting to know Liverpool heh) but it's certainly one of my most humiliating performances this season overall in recent years, now just carrying over to post-season.

I'll take your BTTS and pair it with a double chance Hungary.


Go Hungary, that's my double chance (https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/c51ccf6f-7bb3-4835-8917-4e857f996abd), and if I lose at least I get the superbru points ha...

another win would be great for Hungary in this group, that is really kicker for them
although one more win would not mean that they will pass into next round

I think that Italy vs Hungary should not be goals, not sure about final score, and Germany vs England should be a draw in the end
nevertheless, my picks are terrible so far

If the World Cup wasn't organized in Qatar this year, the World Cup was going to start on Friday. Organizations like the World Cup and EURO are really very important for football lovers not to let the summer slip by. I hope that Fifa don't make this kind of ridiculous decisions anymore just to have more money. As @buwaytress took Italy on, we can see a favourite team winning comfortably tonight . ;D

Excelent confirmed prices and a lot of places available to win a price. Sad for me with this bad start.

Oh man dont remember that, i really hate this world cup calendar, but well lets think in the positive way and think when we are in November we have the World Cup.

Germany vs England ended in a 1-1 draw. England needed an 88th muntine penalty kick to rescue a point for England at Germany. Meanwhile, Italy defeated hungary 2 goals to1. These results made me lose 4th place down to 7th place to see today if Belgium and Holland can achieve victory :-\

Yeah, something I actually forgot about, the World Cup. See how they make us quickly forget once they've shelved things around?

Oh and yes, thanks everyone for supporting my bet. Which actually ticked off 2/3 legs except the Hungary double chance. Hooray! You 3-pointer exact scorers can thank me personally.

Not related to this thread perhaps but related to the whole fiasco of Nations League and internationals, I just got f'd up by Qatar Air moving flights in summer. They say it's an airport issue but I bet you it's the whole World Cup prep thing. So now instead of a 22 hour flight with one layover I have a fantastic 48+ hr hopping time across the Asian continent. Compensation? Nada. Considered refund and rebook but flights are 60% up since I last booked. And not getting cheaper.

If anyone doesn't need to fly this summer/winter. Don't. Cost to fly return to my nook of the world is over 200% costlier than in 2020. I blame Covid yes, but also World Cup as I idiotically took the route that goes past there.

Still happy that I got a close score, although Italy scoring the own goal shouldn't have happened, otherwise 3 exact for me, but I would have preferred to see 3-1 so at least more people would get close than a few exacts, otherwise the fight for me is over lol

Muller should have won it 2-1 for Germany but seriously, England, where are all your attacking firepower? At least EURO they could score from open play right?

If we are talking costs, then spread some blame towards war in Ukraine and its impacts on oil & gas industry. It was just a matter of time before all transport costs shoot trough the roof. I would actually not be surprised that your hopping is a result maximizing plane loads and minimalizing fuel consumption.

To get back on topic, finally one game that went as I expected with Germany and England playing out a scoring draw.

Damn that penalty removed me of a close result for the Germany game which I had predicted 2-0 a win for Germany.I also got an exact result from the Italy game so not that a bad day overall for me and in the last two days I got two correct scores which brought me back in the top 10 not far away from that 5th place,the last of a prize.I checked the schedule and unfortunately the games were not up to 23 June as I thought,they finish much early at 14 June the last games of this first big round of the Nations League and then we will be back on September.

LuckyGuy did it again. Got exact points on both games and thanks to England who now has my Kane as the second-highest English goalscorer in internationals.

Of course did not able to watch the game,,, but from the readings it seemed like the draw was a deserved outcome for both teams. Tough point away at Germany  8)

The match between Germany and England was pretty entertaining to watch as both teams were able to create a number of good chances to score. I have to say that i was surprised that Germany was able to control the pace of the game for the most part yesterday, because England should have more confidence after their strong performance in the Euro last year, but they pretty much just waited for mistakes of the german team to then initiate a quick counter attack too. This is also a valid strategy of course but i think that England has so many strong players that they could easily try to control a game too.
In the end i think the draw was ok for both teams. The penalty was very unlucky for Germany as it was basically just an accident and not an intended tackle or something but in the end he touched Kane and therefore it was a penalty.

Yeah, I'm very cheerful about predicting two exact scores on the same day again.   :)

Normally it is really hard to predict the exact results of these games but my luck is also still helping me. I just try to make my prediction according to what I feel. I had a big difficulty in doing it for the Germany - England game actually because I thought of the possibility of Germany's win here too. But thankfully I chose a 1-1 draw for it. As for the Italy - Hungary game, many people thought of Italy to win by not conceding any goal. I was also afraid of it but Hungary managed to score and it ended exactly the same as I predicted.  :D

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In today's games of group B of Nations League, I bet on the victory of the hosts. Ukraine has played two tough matches in the qualifying round for the World Cup in recent days, so they will surely feel tired. After losing to Wales, the team's morale has certainly suffered as well. That is why I am betting on the victory of Ireland. Scotland should win against Armenia.

I take it I'm already too late to join?

I think Trofo can let you win but you are 22.5 points behind the leader of the standing,sure Superbru can give you a couple of default picks (although I am not sure about this) so you have a mountain to climb.If you are looking though to just get a place in the top five that is doable I believe as long as Superbru provides you some default picks which give you 1 point each.The 5th place is just at 12.5 points so there are a lot of other games to be played and you can have a chance to get a prize but your chances are slim.If you still want in I am sure Trofo will have no objections about this but he can give you the final answer.

I guess you did not put the scores in Superbru for the games so far?

Pool is officially closed but if you really want to join I will alow it and give you the points of the last person on leaderboard at the moment. That way nobody who is currently in the pool can complain. Since that points are added manually in my head you are automatically loosing any tie breakers if you make it into the prizes.

Not much of a deal, but best one I can offer without damaging other participants chances for prizes in unfair way.

Huge rewards for such a low-importance tournament, well done for organizing this on time Trofo!

I still can't really hit anything - everybody is playing with B or C lineups and in weird formations. Still, at least I'm tracking the results and watching an occasional game - otherwise I'd fully skip this.

I don't really know why Wales/Ukraine are playing today, they had a qualifier a few days ago. I think Wales might get hammered by Netherlands.

It's probably safe to assume that the coaches are trying out other possible tweaks ahead of the World Cup. I know it's still way to too early for that, but it sure looks like a the best opportunity to make a few trial and errors without any consequences or backlash from the fans.


I don't think it's weird since it's still the same amount of games other countries have played within the same timeframe, just that the importance of the games are significantly different.
I have the Netherlands to win but it wouldn't be surprising if that doesn't happen, as that as been the case with me so far in this competition.

@icopress I'm happy to let you join as Trofo suggests, I even don't mind giving my position's points as a starting base but agree, you'd have to join at last position to not risk anyone being sad heh.

LuckyGuy's the bastard to beat though.

Anyway. I wanted to wait till after the game tonight to mention my hedge against the shitty Hungary double chance win, and if Netherlands again pulls it off, I will have my first winning ticket since... 3 weeks? Amazing huh, even will get insurance if I lose.

But see, needed all the AFCON games plus World Cup to get it right, Italy really only scraped through.

If NL scores first and I happen to be online, you bet I'm hedging with a Welsh handicap!

Edit: my usual image sharing site down but it's a 12.85 ticket: Cape Verde, Zambia, Australia, Italy + Netherlands ML.

lack of proper football lately "forces me" to place tickets in the international Nations friendly League

https://i.imgur.com/YNaJANU.png
Surely, Belgium will bounce back after that defeat the other day, right? surely the #2 NT in the FIFA world rankings won't lose two games in a row at home, right? 🙄

you hit the nail on the head
too bad superbru didn't add League B or League C because almost all the favorites in those leagues (Turkey, Finland, Serbia, Norway, etc) are winning their games. Understandable since those teams take the Nations League way more seriously because of the Euro 2024

Don't worry. I have decided to stop LuckyGuy today. I have made bets on both of the scores he predicted on Superbru. Maybe a Nations League with full of surprises could be waiting for us today.  ;D ;D

https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/0673571e-bb81-40c1-9a77-1e2a4bbd0a6a

@icopress I would also like to see you joining the pool. Our points are going to be nearly the same then. Even though I'm not very hopeful for the leadership, I think that we can still fight for the top 5. :)

Haha. I'm feeling the pressure now bro.  ;D  I have no idea about how much I can keep going like this but I'm trying my best. It seems like I won't be able to predict the exact score of the Wales - Netherlands game now as the first half has ended up with a 0-0 tie.  ;D  However, I still have a chance for the Belgium - Poland game as the current score is 1-1 now. I'm just begging Belgium to win this game by 2-1, haha. Its probability is not low though but it's still very hard to predict the games of this kind of big teams.


You're doing a good job by trying to stop me now but you might fail as for the Belgium - Poland game because I still have a good chance to predict the result of it.  ;D

What, again What?, i stop seeing Belgium - Poland when they are 3-1. But recently i go to check and.... 6-1 what pass to Poland defence? Poor guy who bet on handicap to Poland.

Clearly nobody cant predict that result.

In other things i make a step foward  from 21 to..... 20 hahahaha, take care. Im gaining pace

I'm not even checking the pool leaderboard, knowing how shitty my picks have been, but I'll try to get better, lol.

After Poland to the lead, I said "shit, here we go, again", but it was a complete turnaround, I wonder what the odds for Belgium would have been around the 40th minute into the game.

first round that brought expected outcomes, at least for me
did not saw six pieces in Poland net, but Belgium was a favorite to win, obviously

Wales and Netherlands played interesting few minutes overtime, and brought all goal bets to life, from over 2.5 to both-to-score, otherwise pretty boring match
will push for more unexpected results in following rounds, so far really bad pool results for me

If they added those leagues I am sure we would have had strange results there as well :)

First normal day in Nations League and my first winning ticket. Nowhere near to get back from all the looses but good enough to try and balance the books once again tomorrow.
https://i.imgur.com/qMeleOg.png

Watched the Belgium game and they really turned the heat on Poland after minute 30. It was just a matter of how many goals they will score but beginning was quite bad for them. When Hazard missed that 100% chance and then they conceded I was already thinking here we go again :)

Damn, Belgium, from being destroyed by Netherlands 1:4 just few days ago, now they they completely destroyed Poland 6:1.Poland scored first, despite that Belgium played better. But what was going on in 2nd half, Belgium completely dominated. Though, I think that 6:1 is probably too big score. And it's one of the most disgraceful defeats in Poland history.
Also, took nice @2.30 LIVE Netherlands ML bet.

I wanted to place a 5-1 prediction for Belgium in the first thinking but then I changed to a more realistic one to the 3-1 which I thought it was going to be the case but in 17 minutes Belgium scored another 3 goals,impressive.I knew that when they would play fully focused with De Bryne and company there is no team stopping them and yesterday this was just the case.The pool is becoming interesting with a lot of people from 3rd to down positions being divided by only a couple of points,today difficult games ahead but I think both Portugal and Spain should win.

kinda worked, eh? 😂

lol two favorites winning their games, feels like a breath of fresh air lol

Portugal - Czech Republic today should be a good game, the latter have been playing really good football so i'm a bit surprised to see the moneyline @9 odds in SB, are they gonna rotate the squad or something? Czech Republic to score one goal @1.8 smells like good value

Yeah happy days for me too! Finally, bagged my first big win in a long long time. Even had time to make a hedge on Wales at 4.3 when NL led... so you can imagine my disappointment at the 92nd min equaliser. Nice to hear it also turned out for you Trofo!

Thank you tall Dutch men who can head the ball...

but phew the game was horrible to watch until around minute 85... de Jong de licht all of them passing like England League One clubs. Not that the Welsh were any better.


It's all luck in the end (some skill for sure but how to you say the guy who predicted 2-1 is twice as good as they guy prediction 3-1 right?).

I'm rooting for you, honestly, I like seeing a new guy come in and show us all how it's done.

You literally shot yourself when you said you had a good chance at predicting Belgium-Poland though ha, but nah that's you being a true sportsman and allowing the rest of us to try and catch up ;)

What are we playing today? I am thinking Spain is due a win already and they have very wide bench which should help when games are played every 3 days. Switzerland also has some injuries in defense so that should help as well. Odds are actually really good @1.98 and if it wasn't this cursed competition I would have already placed a big bet on it. As it stands just small stake coupled on multi with some tennis.

Guys thank you so much for all of you responded, I did not expect anything else from you. When I wrote my question, I counted on the fact that I would join, but today my plans have changed significantly and there is even less free time. I will miss this event but we will definitely see you in the Premier League Prediction Pool, Serie A and La Liga!

for me, Spain is a draw, would not put a bet on that, but Swiss is actually pretty hard to be beaten, and they already scored two loses in competition, third would be a surprise for me
nevertheless, Portugal on handicap is on my ticket, combined with Kyrgios from 0:1 to win (it is an off-topic, but this could actually be his Wimbledon, looking at his form on grass, he just needs consistency)

I made a betslip like this today. I also think that it is time for Spain to win a match. @LuckyGuy, I won't hinder you today but I will reconsider this decision if you continue to open the gap more. @icopress, I'm also going to be in those pools absolutely. I hope that everyone in the pool can have a lot of fun next season and all the people on the forum can make good amount of money thanks to bets.

https://i.hizliresim.com/73jgwnj.jfif (https://www.hizliresim.com/73jgwnj)

edit: Today, both of two representatives of Iber Peninsula managed to win. For the last two days, favourite teams started to win their matches in the UEFA Nations League. Tomorrow, I think that France are going to win against Austria. I don't have any idea about what can happen in the Denmark-Croatia match. Whatever happens in that match, I wouldn't be surprised about it.

I managed another good result tonight with a correct score for Portugal and a close one for Spain,4.5 points out of two games I consider this a very good results.On another note we see the favorites winning games in these last two days reinstating in me and I believe many others the belief that finally the teams are starting to play like they should and favorites winning,giving us good returns for our bets.

Austria vs France tomorrow should be finally a win for France and in the game between Denmark vs Croatia it should be a Denmark double chance win or draw but a win from Croatia would not surprise me at all.

That Sarabia goal for Spain looked like it was offside, no? The commentators on the stream that i was watching thought it was offside, fans in the stands after being shown the replay were pissed for sure. Looks offside from the stop-frame, the line is drawn to Sarabia's foot which appears to be ahead of the ball, maybe it's inconclusive idk...:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/14/P7NKCKgc2aea399ace3a2b9.png

Offside or not that's three points for Spain, i thought they played a lot better vs. the Czechs in their previous match and deserved to win. The high defense line though almost cost them this match as well but Seferovic/Embolo couldn't figure out how to score into an empty net in the final minutes.

I started to get a feel for this bastard competition. Or maybe it is better to say that results started to look normal. No matter, I will gladly take another winning ticket. Just a few more to upset all those losses.

Croatia playing today, I am very tempted to go big on Denmark.

Strange results in all those early games but finally,,, we have 2 nights in a row where the favorites won it, not easy to be sure for everyone except Belgium, but definitely also not as hard as the small margin scoreline makes it out to be.

2 exacts, 1 close and 1 result from the past 2 nights makes me happy. But it is really not easy!

Trofo I will go big on Croatia then so one of us can win something  ;D

I would not be surprised as Denmark is already at the top of the group and this is not going to change for the moment even if they lose the game of tonight.Croatia played well against France although they only managed to equalize with a penalty kick.The most common sense result here is a draw based on what the team quality is and how the above facts impact each team.

Personally I have gone for a prediction of Denmark win but maybe throughout the day I may change it although I don't think I will do that.

I literally did it man.  :D  However, I assume that so many people weren't expecting a result like that for the Belgium - Poland game. Belgium played like a goal machine and Poland weren't able to stop them I'm afraid. The stoppage time of the Wales - Netherlands game was really interesting and enjoyable at the same time by the way. Wales were nearly stealing a point from their tough competitor.


Yeah, we have had really unexpected results in many games so far but it seems like favourites have finally started to win more often. From now on, I will take it into consideration too while I'm making my predictions in the pool.  ;D

The Austria - Denmark game seems to be the most difficult game to predict today I guess.

Could this be a trick to get us to spend more money or is this now the national teams finally understanding again how to play football I wonder?

Still not betting any money, but Spain is always calling out to me, just I guess too bad I couldn't capitalize on that. Maybe next one?

By the way I notice there is also Nations League in America, is that related at all to this current tournament or they're using a same name?

I managed to get a correct score for the Portugal match last night while Spain kicked me in the back made me lose my bet, I think at the moment I need some rest so I will not bet today because predicting who will win the matches Denmark and Austria seems a bit difficult so I will just Setting my billiards predictions in the hope of a close result.

I finally managed to get a few of these correct and 5 points away from 3rd looks decent compared to the fact that I started with 2.5 points from the 1st 10 games.

Most of us will probably pick the same winners today - especially in the Austria - France game. I also feel that Denmark is in a much better moment than us so will both choose them in the pool and bet on them against Croatia.

It is weird constantly betting against your country though. But I recently feel that the world is kinda overestimating our quality.

World is totally overestimating our qoulity. Did you see how our back line will look today?

Vrsaljko (did not play all season, wrong side), Erlić, Šutalo, Juranović (how many of you guys know the last 3 defenders?). Than add to that a fact that Modrić and Kovačić are also not playing and our management already crying how they can't play every three days like other teams are not in the same position.

I placed everything I had on bookies on Denmark today. Go big or go home :)

Deschamps went with the B team the other day against Croatia so, we could see their main starting XI today with Benz, Kylian, Coman, etc so yeah i don't think many ppl expect Austria to win today. I'll wait for the confirmed lineups but i like France -1 @2 odds.

Denmark - Croatia, after reading Trofo's post, sounds like Denmark ml @1.9 is a no brainer, odds seem a bit too generous  :D

Well finally i started to make my head up a little in this pool.

And yes like leea said, this last matchs were more normal than the previous.

Yes maybe France needs to put more effort if they want to qualify to the finals , because if you still losing points when you want to recover maybe you can be so far from the top.

I assume Trofo and Cryptofrka must be knowing Croatia's current condition much better than all of us. Frankly, I predicted a draw for this match in the pool however I don't think of giving this match a place in any of my betslips as I still can't predict anything that can happen about this match. If France start the match with their main starting eleven against Austria they can get a win by a big score gap.

@Ulven the games are becoming too difficult to win lately, you stake two games hoping to win big but at the end one team will mess it up that's not funny haha, maybe you should be taking a single bet especially if your sure about the correct score, the Portugal game ended well but I was hoping that Spain could score up to 3goals but it didnt come out to be so. I am going to see what the bookmarkers have today so I can try my luck.

While Croatia were obtaining an unexpected victory against Denmark, France also turned this day into a nightmare for bettors by getting a draw against Austria. Frankly, it wasn't a very big surprise for me to see that Denmark couldn't win. But France's not being able to win their match caused my betslip to lose.

Well that just shows how much we know :) Kidding aside our prediction were spot on for the line ups and state of things in first half. Denmark should have done much more in that time.

In second half when Modrić and Kovačić came on, it was totally different game. It was very obvious we are now the stronger side. I lost my initial tickets but managed to more than recover all that with nice bets placed around 55th minute. Cashed them out for nice profits since I was afraid of late goal.

https://i.imgur.com/c7lS1JF.png

I think the odds for France to win @ around 1.80 issh was probably and indication of what to expect, It's not as if I didn't have France included in one of my betslips, I felt there would be some improved performance given their recent poor performance but then, it is what it is.

Still no sign of life in the pool for me, I'm still yet to record an exact score, while being way down the pecking order.

it is good that I do not have much time for gambling last few days, it is basically daily saved money
did not expected Croatia to win last night, but it is based only on last results, they have better side than Denmark, generally speaking

Austria and France completed this with a draw, that puts France down in a moment, they will need more wins in last three rounds to secure next stage

I think that was the case for almost everyone in the pool yesterday,I just saw only Ulven making a position up and all the other top 5-10 I don't think they got important points,the top 5 in fact is largely unchanged which means no one was expecting the results of yesterday night.I thought France to win against Austria but now they did not secure a single win in these first 3 games which makes it hard to believe for me that they can win the remaining games.

For tonight though at least we have 4 beautiful games and hopefully we will get points.

Trofo! I cannot believe Croatia won it! I got a nice bet win, and that is after a long time for me too not taking this kind of bet, and somehow they made me happy. Just only,,, too bad I did not go bigger with the bet.

Of course it still does not help me in the pool and I think it did not help many of us, but the more important question,,,


Is what is the hell wrong with France? Bookmakers even put them as the favorites before this and if you are the guy defending the title why do you field a team that does not play with your best talents?

Count me as one of those rektd by France. And Spain (well once anyway). And England. It's really turning out to be a tournament of luck. We had that good day on thursday but now I suspect the weekend will bring more bad results for the favorites.

Denmark not winning or at least drawing actually also is a bit of an unexpected one, I mean Croatia's team is pretty weak, Modric alone isn't enough (like Bale with Wales and they even have more better attacking wingers).

So, the big Saturday upset will be ... ? I think Italy could be a good contender for upset of the day,, bit of a special match for both England and Italy after their last meeting in the Euros. England have a score to settle, but Italy are showing some signs of improvement in the last couple of matches

I watched the match. Modric completely changed the game after he came on, truly amazing to see how big of an impact one of the greatest midfielders of all time can have as a sub. Kovacic was immense too.

You benefited from following the match live a lot as it seems. A 6.20 odd is really good, congrats. There are going to be four matches to be played today. Frankly, I think that the match people are waiting curiously for is England-Italy. I see British as one step ahead. By the way, you can think of giving a place to Turkey too in your betslips. We've made a really quick start in the League C.  ;D

Don't forget the match will be played at Molineux without fans, as England is serving a two-game ban from UEFA:

source: https://metro.co.uk/2022/06/11/england-vs-italy-why-will-there-be-no-fans-in-attendance-at-molineux-16809446/

Regardless, it's a lineups check for me before i put any money on Italy...don't trust them too much, even though visiting teams tend to perform better when matches are held behind closed doors...

closed door or not, I do think that England will be motivated to win, due to EURO final loss
this competition is not worth much, and teams are playing shabby football, no matter line-ups, some players that usually play great for National teams are playing better, but most are just trying to work this out

is Poland set for another 3+ goal loss against Netherlands, they play their first home match, after two away wins

It's coming home! Lol

Italy starting center-back pair is a Serie B player (Gatti from Frosinone) + 34-year-old Acerbi who can bearly walk/run. Unlikely to be the upset of the day.  :D

I got watching the Netherlands game as it's the one shown, so much lol and they're behind, just now thanks to Matty Cash (I keep forgetting he's Polish!). Thankfully, skipped them on my ticket, though none of the 3 on mine are ahead (England, Germany, who allowed Hungary to score hahaha, and Turkey).

Yeah, I know Turkey's not in Group A but if they can't win, I'll never bet on them again for a year.

regarding Netherlands, I put goals on my bet, although thought that home win is more secure, but odds were low
now it should pass goals (over 3.5), if they win in the end

regarding Turkey, I would not underestimate Luxembourg, they are solid squad at the moment, with two wins (agree that Lithuania and Faroe Island are not prominent teams), but Luxembourg being bookie favorite as away team against anyone made me to look at their squad, and it is solid, far from recreational team that I thought, their keeper is actually from runner-up in Belgium league, Union SG

Yeah the games so far started pretty badly for us,I had Netherlands 2-0 a clean sheet in the pool prediction and also Germany as 0-2 also a clean sheet,both crushed within just some minutes after the game started.I think that England vs Italy may as well end 0-0 or 1-1 like it happened in the finals of the last Euro cup which Italy were the winners.Belgium I think it is going to win but they have taken things slow as they think Wales is no threat to them.

I hope Netherlands turn things back together with Germany otherwise we are going back to the first days of the Nations League where these kind of results were the "normal" ones.

The first half of the Netherlands - Poland game was quite interesting. Netherlands had a quite big dominance against their competitor but this still didn't help them much. Poland are still 1-0 ahead at the end of the first half. I made a prediction like a 3-1 Netherlands victory for this game and I'm having high doubts about it now.  ;D  Actually Netherlands can find one or two more goals when they score the equalizer but we will see. They need to keep this performance level at least.

What a coincidence I would say for tonight games,all of them ended in a draw.This most probably crushed out on the bettors and bookies won a lot of money tonight by these results.Netherlands had a great chance to score with a penalty in the additional time of the second half but one of the best players of the Netherlands missed it.In the pool prediction I doubt anyone made a lot of points here unless he got against all odds and did predict a lot of draws tonight,I personally only got right the Italy vs England game which I got a close 1.5 points as I had them 1-1 as a prediction.

4 draws today. Four

didn't know about this. I would've dropped some money on Italy but at the end i decided to go with Germany moneyline, would've ended the same way tho, just me losing another bet, ffs lol

honestly, this should be the Nations League anthem in every Group A match https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg also, the players from the big team should wear oompa loompa costumes and do the Carlton dance,, that should be a good preview of what's to come

i'm so salty right now 😂 but, props to the brave souls in our pool who went for draws today 👍

Yeah this was quite bad night for betting, to make matters worse I went with both to score and almost cashed out big. Just needed goals in England - Italy match and there could have been a few without much problems. Some incredible misses, especially on England side.

Ah well, my winning streak has come to an end after just two days. What is worse, I now believe I can win on Nations League games so I am in perfect position to loose some more in days to come :)

As it stand, I'm out of the pool, I'm really just putting in picks just for the sake of it. How more unpredictable can a competition get, lol. I wasn't even this terrible in the La Liga pool, I just can't seem to get anything right.

I had some money on France yesterday, Germany and Belgium looked like some real value to bet on today, but it's just a different day, same old shit. This is making me almost not look so forward to the World Cup like I was a few weeks ago.

Fortunately I decided not to bet for a week, it seems difficult to predict the results of the league matches for this group, especially since most of the participants in the pool were not able to score points. Tomorrow we have two matches worth watching Portugal and Spain I will start guessing from now there may be an unexpected surprise so I will focus more on Spain vs Czech Republic

I was doing more or less fine in betting... until today. 4 draws in League A. From all these games Hungary draw with Germany is biggest upset. Though, it's already not first time when Hungary proved that they can play with big teams. Netherlands draw with Poland isn't surprise for me. IMO, Poland was understimated too much, especially after that huge lose against Belgium. Yeah, Poland after scoring 2 goals defended most of time and Depay failed to score penalty on last minutes.
England - Italy game wasn't most sciting to watch, I expected something more. Final result relfect game very well.

Don't worry about world cup, that will be much more in line with expected results since all teams will play with their absolute best. In Nations League we have a strange combination of top teams just going trough the games and maybe testing some players while smaller teams look at this as their opportunity to beat the best. That is a perfect storm for upsets.

Congratulations on your new campaign, I hear it is one of the best :) And it is run not by one, but two very handsome managers, what more can you ask?  ;D

And somehow, in the end, you were the one who got this bet, England/Italy/Germany all managed to crap on me, while Turkey, the one I was least certain of, ended up with a comfy win.


Started and ended badly. Didn't really see the leaderboard but it seems to have not changed at all so I guess we all went for the favorite wins and died.

11 times only people in this pool won points in all 4 games last night, what a riot! That's less than 10% games predicted correctly!

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Oh and nice going on the new campaign too Harko, definitely two very good looking managers, can't do wrong!

Not for the first time this year,,, last year or years before. It will not be for the last time to be sure either,,, the master practically carried Real to both titles this season, along with Benzema of course, but you feel like he used up all his credit for 2018 Ballon and then suddenly now he is so good people are looking away.

I wonder why.

Honestly, that'd probably be the case, It's however funny that to some points except chancing ML and Handicaps, the tournament have produce quite a lot of goals and BTTS that are of great value, just that there is always one team ruining the trend, could be bet worthy to parlay them on doubles or triples, and today's fixtures looks pretty decent for some BTTS bet. what say ya ?


Indeed, what more could be asked for, Thanks.

I'll be joining in later today after my current one ends :D

My parlay lost yesterday because of England. Actually, I really wasn't expecting to be at the last position in the pool. All of the matches in the League A ended up with draws and this was a really interesting incident in my opinion.


Two very handsome managers are managing my campaign as well. But don't go out with them, ever! Because girls don't look at your face because of being interested in them.  :'(

that one yes, but with four draws it is almost impossible to take money
Hungary ruined my hopes, they are obviously playing with more motives than competition from the group

nevertheless, I do think that mostly favorites will proceed into next round and last rounds will bring all expected results

Swiss is my pick today, they had been all down so far

It will be difficult for them against a Portugal in top form lately.They,Portugal will most likely win,if Switzerland scores a goal I will call it an achievement.Spain against Czech Republic should be a good game to watch but most probably Spain should have an easy win tonight.I don't expect any surprise in today games because I think this is normal now after 4 unexpected results yesterday out of 4 games or at least 3 out of 4 games were unexpected results.If surprise results happen tonight then Nations League is going back to the first nights of the tournament.

We still struggling with the underdogs performing well and the big teams dont doing what they supposed to do.

Hungary are going to make feel proud of his legends like Puskas Kocksis and other with this performances fighting hand to hand against the big names.

Yes they didnt score a ton of goals like before, but great performance.

Yeah I'm actually really liking the Swiss against Portugal today for no other reason than for them to try and get one good win under their belt -- in a tourney where the big guns have been really shy. Yes, they got hammered a week ago by 4 goals but time for some Swiss revenge and a brace of goals/assists from MLS's highest paid player, don't you think?

That's my bet anyway, still going with a draw or win in pool.

Portugal are still struggling a lot against Switzerland. I wasn't expecting this to happen honestly because I hoped a comfortable win for Portugal. I didn't know that Ronaldo wasn't going to play in this game also but I would still pick this 3-1 win for them in the pool even if I knew. We are entering the last twenty-minute period of the game and I'm just hoping to see a silver lining as soon as possible. However, I guess that it would be too much to expect such score at this point.

I just started watching the game 15 minutes ago and Portugal is much better side. Maybe there isn't enough time for that 3:1 but I expect them to score at least one goal. They had a couple of solid chances already but Swiss keeper was able to stop all that.

Spain looking good for a clean win finally. Was about time they click into place and start collecting points.

Switzerland is winning with what I would call a lucky goal as I call lucky goals every goal that is scored right in the first minute of the game.If you see the statistics it tells you that Portugal tried all the game to equalize things but couldn't because of bad luck and a great performance from the Switzerland goalkeeper.There are exactly 8 goalkeeper saves from the part of Switzerland,the game is in additional time and most probably will end with a win of Switzerland,this is one of those kind of games I call lucky wins nevertheless 3 points are 3 points whatever the case.

Spain I had it to win 2-0 in prediction from my own mind but then I have recently upgraded to Premium in Superbru and believed the Insight there and changed to 2-1 as a result of that.Still happy with 1.5 points from two games.

in the end, it was more luck than good game, but Swiss win it for statistics
brought me joy to have one more green light on a losing parlay (it was Northern Ireland miss all along), but 3 points in a pool as well

letting go is pass, with two exact scores from today, I am going up in the pool, beware top positions, Spain was favorable for 2:0 win, and it came easy

I just cannot believe it that I got both scores wrong yesterday. I risked to get a Spain draw and that is such an expensive move as I now went out of the Top 5 and further away from LuckyGuy.

But I guess we should offer congratulations to casperBGD for getting TWO exact scores,,, I can see the yellow cap coming to rest on his head pretty soon :)

Still can't believe Portugal did not manage to at least score one goal and get away with a draw. They were much better side in second half and they were creating opportunities every few minutes. Granted there wasn't that many clear cut chances but still more then enough for couple of goals on another day.

I needed just x2 to land my last multi and even that did not pass. Time for players to go on holiday and stop taking my money  ;D

I actually expected a Spain win but perhaps a tight one as I went for 2-1, I did the same for Portugal, but after I saw the Portugal's line up, I changed my pick to 1-1 draw, I really felt that would hit after the early goal from the Swiss team, but I watched time slip away gradually till the end, I really don't know how some people came up with the idea that Portugal will lose the game.

I can't understand that either after seeing Portugal playing against Spain and Czech Republic no one with a sane mind would place a bet on them to lose.As I said they won because of a lucky first minute goal and then Portugal completely dominated the game but were unlucky to score a goal in that avalanche of opportunities they created.

For today games I finally expect France to win a game,they were winning against Croatia in the first game but were equalized with a penalty,I think this will not happen tonight and France will get a narrow win.

As for Denmark I expect them to repeat the success against Austria again.

TBH, France is a pick of the day, they will probably not risk going down to League B, and with another winless match, it will not getting easier for them
Croatia is playing with Modric, but I cannot see them taking point or win today

but more from that, and better odds are on Denmark, they are in good form, and win over Austria, with expected France win will put them into position to be as close to play-offs, as one team can be, so I will play them, instead of France

Seems like not only in the A league of the Nation Leagues we have surprises results. Also in C league a shame for Slovakia lose against Kazajistan and surely cant go to B league.

Well 5 minutes and Frances its already losing.

France are really not showing a satisfying performance in the UEFA Nations League. They don't seem like they will win against Croatia too now. As the players look at the UEFA Nations League as a preparation tournament, I think that they are still one of the biggest favourite teams of the World Cup. It is just the bettors who are sad now.

Croatia is always better against stronger opponents and we are really hyped to win against France. We played I think 8 times and we never won. We managed to get draw 3 times if I am remembering correctly. Very bad H2H and that works wonders on our mentality. I am always afraid when we play against teams like Austria, where it seems like it is an easy match and they actually have more then enough quality to make it hard for you.

That being said, France is playing with both Benzema and Mbappe so they want a win and there is a reason we never won against them. They play just the version of controlled football we hate and they have enough quality to always score against us. That early goal could be very important.

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I'm livid that France are losing, I felt it's going to be an all out win for them, Even though they've been the better side here so far, but they've need to get level and Mbappe is being such a great threat, however it's the goals that matters.

I've got them to win either halves for the sake of them not being consistent, but that might also be a mistake on my part.

user PL Guru (also known as jim carrey lol) was the only who predicted 1-0 Croatia... congrats 🤝

the magic of the Nations League. Pure disbelief  ;)

Deschamps is very lucky the WC is right around the corner and that everyone downplays the nations league, otherwise, they would've sacked him last month... Croatia though are looking great lately (except for the 0-3 to Austria, a glitch in the matrix, tbh), really hope they make it to the Nations League Finals

I'm very happy that there is going to be a break of two months in the UEFA Nations League after tomorrow. I wasn't expecting to be the champion while I was participating in the pool though. But I thought that I would be able to stay in the competition. We have created a big pool with 21 people and I have been at the last position for a long time. It is shameful. :D

I got both picks wrong again, lol.

I'm just barely above you on the 20th position, with a single point. I've never been this worse in any pool, I'm glad about the break too. it's a lost cause in the pool for me anyways.

Another loss for the French national team. What a shame. I think about the performance you will give there in Qatar if they do not change the way the plays. I think they will leave the World Cup in the group stage.
I am happy that I got a close result against Denmark, but despite this I lost two places again

Well done Croatia, a really solid performance overall and our first win against France in our history.

At first I felt the penalty was a bit soft but after seeing it from multiple angles, there was a stomp and definitely enough contact for it to be given.
After we took the lead we basically controlled the game well and although France did put us under some pressure throughout the game - we really defended well.

Shame we lost against Austria in the 1st game, we would have been on top with a win there.

Haha totally totally pure disbelief. France was 1.55 to win this game and come on, that was supposed to be amazing value because the French desperately needed to win and Croatia was supposed to be lucky in the previous win not playing at their full strength.

Unfortunately for me,,, I did not continue to bet on Croatia but I should have. Really disappointed I went the other way AGAIN for a favorite and lost.

I also had France to get a narrow win but I think that Croatia deserved the win,in the last two games they are turning back to their normal being,a great team and they can beat anyone now.Denmark I think is the head of the group and without a doubt will continue to be so until the end of the competition.

No one can say that Croatia is or was lucky,yesterday night they completely dominated the game and the score maybe could have been even better.Most probably they will make it to the Nations League finals which as far as I know are planned for 2023.

I'm only a bit upset I haven't been taking bets like these, really. Forgivable offence at the start of the group games even if I always say that's the time to bet on upsets, but it's criminal not to be taking advantage of the shitty English/German/French/Italian football. So much about the "Big Five" leagues.

I've been getting a LOT of joy from the lower groups though, yesterday picked Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan (who won both as the underdogs) but just too bad I insist to put Group A on my tickets. Like leea said, France 1.5x was just too good to ignore on an acca. BAD choice. All my fault.

congrats on a win, early penalty made things difficult for France, and Croatia knew how to keep the score

nevertheless, my bet was on Denmark, that secured another win, and Croatia has a chance to put them down from top spot at home, will be interesting
France will probably push Austria into B groups, but that will be interesting as well, it is basically top France team four matches without a win, will it be different in September?

They're not the only ones to be ashamed in this tournament so far but I totally agree their team is just way too full of talent and famous superstars to be not winning at least one damn game.

I think we can say Denmark/Croatia deserve to be the top 2 in this group. I got some points anyway after getting wooden spoon last round, so I live and breathe in 7th position.

So, who will screw our tickets tonight? I am thinking it is time for Belgium to drop some points, probably Poland looking for revenge. England should probably win tonight if they want any chances of final tournament.

Germany - Italy should be the beauty of the day and I am expecting Germans to take all the points here. This new Italy squad looks really limited to me and I don't see them scoring in most matches against top teams. Maybe 1:0 for Germans could be a correct score for me finally.

Agree. I'm going to go out on a limb here and place a bet against NL today... Wales 65/10. Small bet, just to scratch my itch, everything else is just way too unreliable.

BTW the Caucasus and Central Asia teams have been really playing well... now Armenia took lead against Scotland (but just conceded and then JUST scored now heh). Could it be they see this as their best chance for international glory? Georgia, Armenia, Kazakh, Azerbaijan, damn. They're trouncing the traditional "lesser powers".

Belgium is hardly a winner tonight, even the odds are not favorable, and it is not the difference to Poland, six pieces in first match were hardly realistic
Netherlands should be a winner

regarding Germany, I agree, 1:0 is a pick for me too, although both teams are not playing great
nevertheless, my pick for tonight is Ukraine, they are playing this competition as it is World Cup, and I am certain they will join League A in the end, and Ireland lost from Armenia

Seems England is going to be dark horse for today, again! Currently trailing by a goal to Hungary, should they lose the game, that be the 2nd consecutive loss to Hungary in a less than 10 days, so much for expecting a revenge.

I wasn't expecting much from Italy though, I've got them to lose 2-1 in the pool, and got a btts in a betslip together with the Netherlands.

I understood why I shouldn't trust England in this tournament while they were playing against Italy. I think that Italy are the weakest team of the group considering their lineup in these matches. I don't think it is a big surprise that they are not even making their presence felt today against Germany.

LOL, I don't know what is worse? Getting crushed at home by Hungary 0:4 or destroyed by Germany 5:2. Probably first one :D. But both Italy and England were so awful today and such results resembles game. Who could have thought that Hungary after 4 games will lead group with Germany, Italy and England. It's likely that Italy and England next game will be fight for place in League A.
When I already thought that I lost my ticket, Nethlerlands managed to score and win game in next attack after Wales equalised score.
And from lower league, Montenegro winning big away against Romania 0:3 is another big upset.

Losing to Germany still seems fair in my book, but England getting trashed by Hungary is unacceptable to me, They even failed score at least a goal over the two fixtures against Hungary, how worse could it have been ?

I went all 2-1 into pool, that means a couple of close result and 1 result, except 0 points from England, did anyone from the pool actually backed Hungary ?

Awful to see what has happened to England and Italy this evening. It is ridicolous to see that this two historical team has taken one 5 goal and another one 4 goals.

This Nations League Seems so strange. I can understand England maybe, they aren't interested at Nations League because of World Cup, but italy no.

losing 4-0 to Hungary. Worst defeat at home since forever. Absolute humiliation. People will defend Southgate because he rotated the squad, but tbh that B side should smash Hungary easily, ffs!  3-0 down and Southgate brings Maguire on to try to stop the clown show, but a few minutes later it's 4-0 lol

Can England make it out of the group stage in the WC? 🧐

anyway, this is it, no more football for a few months. It's gonna be rough, folks  :-X

Better no football than this type of football, at least for my betting balance. Now I can focus on tennis and Esports :)

Losing away to Germany can happen, even to the best teams. We all remember how Brazil fared against them in WC after all. But a team like England loosing to Hungary at home is embarrassing, even more so when it is 4:0 defeat and Southgate brings on Maguire to stop conceding more :) Proper clown show as you say.

Well i have to auotquote me. I say this in 1 of june after Italy lost against Argentina. And yes the first game against germany they can go with a draw (i dont know how) , but today what i say before comes to reality. Italy its a disaster right now.


This its incredible, i write a few comments up that Hungary seems like the old Hungary of Puskas without goals (for playing against the bigs), and now they put a 4-0 against England.

A tottaly shame for England and i dont blame Southgate because a B or C team of England its also better than a Hungary team in names.

The players has to have a little bit of shame after this performance. And was a B team with A team players so not fully rotation.

And like Toma says its the worst defeat ever in England soil, the worst? 5-1 in and read...... 1928 against Scotland 5-1 but was a friendly game.
So this its the worst in a tournament game.

And for the pool..... no words.

England do not deserve their reputation. Italy do not deserve either.
Finalists of Europe.
Both the leagues I spend the most time on.

Shameful!!


Oh no I did not say Croatia was lucky that last game against France, but perhaps the one before that, a few fine moments and they were in. On the other hand I would not see any group stage result as an indicator of finals performance.

So you say Denmark will be winning the group, but Croatia will make it to finals? Which one? Only group winners in League A go to the finals ;)

The biggest surprise of yesterday was without a doubt England which I believe everyone in the pool missed it,it was a humiliating defeat for England which is the finalist of the last Euro Cup.The other games for me ended as expected because I expected Germany to win against Italy but surely not with that score while Netherlands and Belgium just made their homework by winning.

It was the last game of the pool until September now and I closed on sixth place,I didn't expect to be this high but I am sad now that no more games will be available in the pool for a couple of months,hopefully these holiday months will pass really fast and we fast forward to September.

What the hell, England? ;D

This is really an insane result - no matter the fact they played with a mixed lineup.
Funnily enough - this is the first time England has conceded 4 goals at home since 1953 - when Hungary beat them 6-3.

Italy can send them a thank-you note, otherwise their 5-2 loss to Germany would be the topic of the day.

what came in a bit unnoticed with an England meltdown from Hungary is Netherlands and Wales

both matches finished in a same way, Netherlands had a lead until overtime, Wales scored for a draw in 90+2, but Netherlands scored a minute later to secure a win
probably one in years to have two matches between two teams, with that similar finish

Netherlands have great team, as seems now, maybe they can surprise in Qatar

UEFA Nations League this season looks not friendly for England country trough passed four games just getting two points with two games getting draw and have lost twice from Hungary on home and away. I think England need to give warning for manager Gareth Southgate what his achievement so far although UEFA Nations League is not priority, but several time bad achievement become warning how he can improved level for England national country team. I think England have loss opportunity can pass to next round on UEFA Nations League after collecting two points only right now, left two match not enough to get points with Hungary have getting 7 points and looks difficult chance because left match against with Italy and Germany.

After all, 5:2 score doesn't looks so bad, but the way how Germany played they were able to score 7 or 8 goals.
Embarrasing isn't strong enough word to describe England performance. Yeah, it's just Nations League, but it doesn't makes it less shameful. It was biggest England defeat since 1928!

As I said anybody can loose to Germany with big score, and 3 goals difference isn't really that much. Hell, Brazil lost 8:1 or whatever in world cup when stakes were much higher and Germany visibly moved the foot of the gas in second half of that game. It was also an away game.

4:0 at home, against team like Hungary shouldn't happen even if they have 2 players more on the pitch. That is proper embarrassment, but I always like to see England struggling a bit since they are usually very arrogant and they have double standards for their own players. If opponent attacker tried a dive like Kane to get penalty in that game they would have it on front page of every newspaper but when their own players do it, conveniently fair play gets forgotten.

Wow, it's been a really rough time period in the Nations League pool. I was doing a very nice job at the beginning but now the competition is fired up much more. I was really worried about losing the lead by the last games. Because I was able to make my predictions while there was a little time left for the games to start. I couldn't check the lineups because of that. If I checked the lineups, I wouldn't definitely predict a draw for the Germany - Italy game.  ;D  I saw Italy's lineup after the game started and I directly started to think Germany would get an easy win. Anyway, somehow I managed to keep a good gap again in the standings.

It's really great to be a part of this pool no matter I'm in the lead or not. I hope that we can continue to enjoy this tournament by the next games which are in a few months.  :)

I don't know if anyone else noticed but the remaining are just like 16-17 games max and they are in a consecutive week day by day from 22-27 September.There are only 51 points in total before the tournament ends so these are really just 5-6 days of games and then this pool is over.I believe this to be the shortest pool beside the Euro and World Cup ones or Afcon ones which are just one month long.Nevertheless this is showing to be one of the most interesting pools so far,personally although I am sitting 6th I don't expect that in the end I will be one of the 5 winners of the pool.

Same here. Kane is my man at Spurs so of course it hurts to see him on the losing side,,, just as it hurts to see Son lose with South Korea but if I have to choose any time I prefer to see him lose with England than with Spurs.

English players there are some humble ones but overall as a team they just feel so overrated. I do not really get it too,,, super talents players but put them in 11 and they play like junkies.


So we are halway through but we have to wait like 3 months,,, but right after that World Cup so we are all good ;)

Only a selective few them are good players, vast majority of the rest are average players that are just overhyped by the English media and EPL being very popular league where we get to see these guys play week in week out, we tend to believe they really are good players, quite a number of them wouldn't even get called up into some national team if there were to be from another country.



The EPL would also even have commenced for more than a month before then.

Indeed,,, they do have world class players but so does every national team,,, since being national is the very definition of world class but a true generational talent they maybe have Kane but I am biased him being from Spurs and even I would say just Trent as a standout rightback but he does not even play the same formation or style. Midfield I think Gerrard and Lampard were way better.

Totally overhyped and worse,,, they cannot play properly in a team for some weird reason!

The England national team has a bad history of such happenings.They had talents like Michael Owen and a couple of others some years ago and even at that time which for me personally the players were of better quality compared to the ones now the England national team suffered from the same mishap.Together they could not be a concrete team,they missed a lot of chances just because they thought to themselves there is time to score and we are one of the best teams,it seems this mentality is the one who needs to be fought.They need to think like we are not a super team but a normal one and with each passing minute we risk to lose the game or get eliminated from the tournament,I think is the mentality that needs to be fixed.

By the way, I did not mean to say bad things about England only,,, after all I do like many of the players AND my favorite team is English and from London no less. I reread the stuff I said and it seems I am such a hater but that is funny in sports, in a way. I find that watching football with friends I am the worst cussing at my own team, and I can watch other teams and comment positively but at my own team cussing so much people have asked me am I really a fan or what  ;D

But true about the mentality. It was fixed to a certain extent in the past few years but again now there are some players who get too bigheaded like maybe Grealish so I totally support why he is dropped sometimes, and other players too. Their egos too way ahead.

Well, there is something that we cannot control, and that is that in football, as in any sport, anything could happen, in this case we see the case of Italy and England, which are countries that are icons in football, but they also fall, this it means that the other countries are not doing so badly, because nobody passes by pure good luck, they have to have something more, however I like to see that new countries are becoming very good in football, this means that for the next qualifiers for the World Cup, the powerful countries have to increase their style of play because this is becoming more and more competitive, I like it.

this is a warning for Gareth southgate where until now the England national team has not been able to achieve maximum results where England are currently slumped at the bottom of the standings by only collecting two points in the four matches they have played.even though this is only a friendly tournament but the performance is outstanding.England was shown to be very.disappointing, especially as they had to swallow the bitter pill at home when they were humiliated by their visitors Hungary with a score of 0-4, Gareth Southgate must immediately improve to determine their best composition ahead of the world cup next November

Actually, there is a reason why this is happening. You know, Football has changed a lot over the years and now football has basically become a game of fast running.
In the past everyone expected the great players to make some great runs and score some unbelievable solo goals.

But now football has become everything about passing. The mentality has also changed. It's basically like if you can just pass the ball to a player who is making a run for a through ball, why are you going to even bother making the run with the ball yourself. And this has changed very quickly in recent times. So the teams that are being able to adapt to this are doing well and others are not doing so well.

Actually though I saw some statistics I cannot remember where now someone posted on the forum at the end of the last season and EPL is actually NOT the fastest running or even the most distance covered, it was not even in top 10 in the world, if I recall correctly Spanish, American (USA and South America) teams have the most running and distance covered.

But this is the same places where you still have players expected to make great runs and do solo performance.

I agree about the passing though. Now it is not just passing back and forth, but also making the movements to get the pass.

Used to be about 1 or 2 really good passers now everyone has to pass well and also to make movements to help create the pass.

I still do not really see the correlation with why teams like England play shitty though because they have the most evolved forms of club football now.

Don't forget that Nations League resumes this week  :)

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Thanks for the reminder. I'd have lost my place if I forgot about making predictions.  ;D

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That's nothing, just go for all the suprise results and look how your ranking in the world goes up. Nothing to lose and I am sure there will be quite a lot of surprises.

I would have forgotten about this one if not for the money on my escrow wallet. This way I get suprised every time I check it  for La Liga or Serie A pools  ;D

Good thing my betting bank is already low so I will not loose much during international break.

And just like that we're entering the last two Rounds of this pool. Just checked the full leaderboard and it looks like everyone's still in the race for the top 5 & rewards, that's cool, should make for an entertaining and nail-biting end to our pool (:

Now, who do you think is going to get relegated to Group B? England or France? I think both NT are going to get relegated but England will continue their miserable winless run, i just don't see them grabbing the 3 points against Germany or Italy  :-X

lucky you.
The international break arrived right after i made a new deposit lol  ;D

I have almost forgotten we still have an existing pool for the nations league, I guess that's because of my position in the pool... This has got to be the worse international break I wanted to see, It came at the time where all other competitions is getting really interest and with most of the national teams is just a break and nothing significant to play for, going by how the bookies wrecked bettors over the weekend, it's probably bound to be an extended holiday for them >:(

So THIS is why I had urgent reminders from Superbru... entering my picks using pure gut here, 18th position out of 21? I definitely have nothing to lose. Thank you Nations League and World Cup for making this season so congested.

Feel free to follow my sure-win picks ;)

Belgium-Wales: 3 - 0
Croatia-Denmark: 2 - 1
France-Austria: 0 - 2
Poland-Netherlands: 0 - 3
Germany-Hungary: 1 - 3
Italy-England: 0 - 1
Czech Republic-Portugal: 0 - 3
Spain-Switzerland: 3 - 0

Seems that I'm not alone who completely forgot about this pool, so, thanks for reminder. When you play in so many pools, it's easy to forget something, especially after such long break. It was nice surprise for me to see that I'm on 3rd place.
@buwaytress, some bald predictions, I completely disagree about Poland - Netherlands prediction, but I think that backing Hungary makes sense, considering situation in group.

Looking at those games I don't see many markets for me to exploit. Only thing from above list I would be comfortable putting my money in Croatia both to score and maybe handicap on Austria if they offer good enough odd for it. Something on the line that Austria will not loose with more than 1 goals difference but I would prefer if they give +2.5 for some solid odds.

Maybe both to score on Germany game and Netherlands ML could also be considered. As I said, good thing I am low on betting money at the moment since I see a lot of red tickets in near future  >:(

It looks like it starts this Thursday and is a pool I am looking forward to,not because I am expecting to win anything out from it but because it is one of the pool where I have done relatively well so far and we are only waiting this last round,this week of games in order to choose the winners,it is the shortest pool in a time span I mean compared to the other pools yet it was a good one.Only 16 games to finish this pool and it looks like in the upcoming games there is some money to be made especially Belgium game which looks like the easiest from all the others.

Im doing a bad performance in a lot of polls and this its not the exception hahaha.

I just complete the results only for fun, i dont think i ahve a chance in the rest of this pool, lets prepare for the WC pool..... i mean we gonna have a WC pool no?

I hope that will be a really big one.

is Livakovic first choice for Croatia keeper?

will put picks in the pool tomorrow or on Wednesday, did not started well, and would probably finish that way also
looking at pairs it does seem that there is nothing to play on betting market, but Belgium should be goals against Wales, maybe BTTS as well

Livaković is the the first choice unless something unexpected like injury happened. But if it did I am almost sure I would have heard of it since our media loves to put those kinds of news out as soon as possible.

If you are asking about the bet, my choice isn't cause of keeper, we just had problems defending set pieces recently and did not look compact at the back in most games. We are always good for one goal in attack so both to score on Croatia games is usually my choice.

Some good discussion going on here so let's make Round #5 a little more interesting and award a 2 mbtc Free Bet to the Yellow Cap winner  :)

That's more than an incentive to get me interested in the round, I was already hoping the next ~10 days would rather just go by so pretty fast  ;D

I'd have made my picks regardless anyways, but I was already having the notion of going rogue with my picks, because I have probably nothing more than being a couple of places from the bottom of the table to lose, and I can expect the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd placed users to get more conserved and not chase wild points with wild predictions.

Poland is only because of Lewandowski. I backed NL in the last Nations League edition, and that went really well for me. They've got an amazing team individually and VVD was in god mode then, even captaining and scoring so many times, Memphis as well, among others. They seem to be out of sorts this time around though but should still get some good goals in.


Austria yeah, not even 9/1 at the moment against mighty France (I'll take it if/when I find 10/1), though it does reflect on the French weirdness of past several years (to my observation). Full of talents, and yet in the past needed to rely on old guards to get them through... talking about Giroud, now even Benzema, which is something you expect from Croatia maybe but guys like Mbappe and Pogba have not been pulling their weight at all.

Thanks jeremy and SB.

Nice little bonus to make it extra interesting to those gravitating to the bottom of the pool. Now I am torn between picking upsets in effort to close the gap to the top or to go with expected and try to get this bonus. Probably gonna end picking some upsets but choosing the games totally wrong and earning myself a nice wooden spoon in the process :)

it was about fantasy football, to have him or not in the team (although I do not have many other options for International breaks, tough to maintain team in times when there is no club football)


great news from Sportsbet, it will be more interesting, especially for participants that hardly can go up in the pool

Made a mistake, thought Scotland was the first game on our round, that shows just how much I actually remember or follow with this tournament that I'd forgotten we were only doing League A games.

Also made sense I couldn't find the game showing!

GL tomorrow, bastards.

Wanted to make fun if you but I am too honest for that. I was driving home yesterday and I sow Scotland game started and thinking to myself, fu... you idiot, how do you forget to make picks in your own pool  ;D

Too make things even worse, still did not make them and would probably have the same reaction today if it weren't for my fantasy chat on Sportsbet and Croatia playing tonight. Not even I can forget trough that.

Last round starting today,I was also a bit surprised when I didn't see Scotland vs Ukraine in the Superbru app  ;D but soon recalled that A league thing.Tonight games sound like really easy on paper and we should have four victories.

Belgium game is the easiest one as I am sure they will beat Wales,Croatia is a strong candidate to win too together with France and Holland.I don't expect any surprise tonight but even if they happen I will not be surprised also as these teams has not been playing from a couple of months so they time to find themselves again.

I'll do my best to show up this time! Be curious to see what other people think. I think at least 2 draws tonight, and 0-0 and clean sheets... but no result will surprise me tbh.


I swear Scotland and Ukraine were top tier but I can't for my life remember how the tourney went, so they either got relegated or this was a seeding problem, whatever haha.

France is marvellous to bet against... I did promise only to bet on Austria if odds went 10/1 but I went ahead and put something on it almost 9/1.

Good luck. Lineups confirmed and odds got slashed to 6/1, France will play with only 5 stars from the best starting XI, didn't expect this many injueries so i had to make a small change to my superbru prediction  ;)

can't be more expected than current results, all favorites are up, and would probably stay that way
France would be on a relegation to group B danger without this win, so I expected them to put through today

will be interesting tomorrow for England, they are in similar situation with relegation to lower rank, but much more difficult, since Hungary is not relegating, so they have to push Italy or Germany down

I was very indecisive between picking 2-0 or 3-0 France win and I chose 3-0 at the end. Now it is 2-0 but it is really worrying for me at the same time. Because if it ends by this score Hoody Hoo, LTU_btc and MoSala all can catch up with me a little more.  ;D

I have similar feelings about the Belgium game also as I picked 3-1 Belgium win for that. 2-1 is not good for me at all. There is still enough time for both matches to see the goals I've been waiting for. The thing is France can score the third one but I'm having high doubts about Belgium. Because they have only 2 shots in the second half and none of them was on target. They are still dominant but this isn't enough for scoring a goal when they can't increase their goal attempts.  :(

A lot of people did very well for this round where the guys in the front lacked a bit,not all of them but a couple.This pool is becoming very interesting as about 9 positions are only divided by less than 9 points,I am talking about the top 9 and in there the last 5 are divided by like 2.5 points so this pool remains anyone guess,personally I don't believe to make it in the top five despite being near,I never won something in any pool so I am not expecting this to be different.

Tomorrow games are delicate ones and may cause big upsets and big difference in the standings,let's see how these unfold.

I fell short of 3 different exact picks too, so I could have had 12 flawless points, but I in the end got just 6, I had 2-0 Belgium and I thought Croatia would draw against Poland, but after Poland were to equalize, it took just a few minutes before threw the game away again.

Ulven with 3 exact score and 1 close score is very impressive to be honest, it looks line easy score line to go for, but have them all correctly is never easy, good job man! 👍🏾

After collecting six points today nothing has changed for me and I'm still at the last position in the leaderboard.  ;D

Croatia - Denmark was the only match I predicted the exact result of. It could have been the same for Belgium and France matches as well if they both scored one more goal. And it looks like I overestimated Poland for this match. I thought that they would make difficulties for Netherlands again. As you remember they started their previous head-to-head by getting 2-0 ahead. I tried a draw for this match as a result but Poland couldn't even score one goal. Netherlands didn't let them have many chances throughout the match.

Damn Ulven, not bad. All my picks went to purgatory and I did miss out with Austria (not a bad scoreline really and still value can't deny) but surprisingly, ended up well in the positive with all my bets on Sportsbet placed during or right after the Fantasy chat Trofo had. 1 out of 2 upsets is really not bad.

To top it off, my 5-leg acca had 3 legs all hit (Netherlands, Andorra, France -1) so I already am comfortably set up tomorrow. How nice for me...

But Trofo will be the happiest!

Damn! You cocky clairvoyant, that was so slick man!

I didn't see that multibet offer though, I surely would have taken the offer for such kind of valuable odds.

But the Azerbaijan win vs Slovakia bet is something I wouldn't gone for at around 8 Odds, for Azerbaijan that prior to win against Belarus in the last game, they've not won any of their last 13 games. Crazy guts!

Yeah, I guess we're almost in the same situation, getting the same amount of point but somehow not changing the position in the leaderboard. I went with all the favorites which was slightly easy to do yesterday because all favorites had odds below 2 (when I was making the picks) but today will be a bit more difficult like with Italy-England game, England is 2.8 and Italy is 2.5 but I believe that the home advantage is the one making it problematic.

it is one of those rounds, you guessed all the picks, and slided on leaderboard, because you do not have exact picks, since all participants have all four picks, and more exact scores

but, it was great day for betting, almost all was in, expect BTTS for Poland, thought that they will score a goal, Netherlands defense is far from great

will be interesting today, my guess in on England to win

I am generally happy how this first day went, all 4 games went as expected for me and i had some nice bets. My main one Croatia both to score passed thanks to Eriksen, never was happier when my team conceded  ;D Even better that we scored another just a minute later.

I just needed Poland to score one goal for perfect day, that would make all my multi bets winning and got me an exact score in the pool.  As it is I now have a big free bet thanks to Sportsbet insurance.

I also needed Poland to score to make another exact score beside France which I guessed,I also needed Croatia 1-0 win to nil for the perfect score and I thought when they were leading 1-0 now I got another exact score but things changed pretty dramatically there,also had Belgium 2-0 as I never thought Wales to score a goal but Belgium is not playing that well in defense.

For today I have got for a draw between England and Italy but maybe to change it to don't know what,for Germany I think they will win tonight and they will not get another humiliating draw with Hungary.

Haha, thanks, yeah the specials are back to what they used to be... a couple of years ago? I don't seem to see them in notifications any longer, but if you check out the Specials (almost a bookmark for me now) they have a new one every few hours, starting from afternoon GMT.

I did spring it in Clubtalk chat too so if you're there, the regulars do alert us to specials every now and then.

Re Azerbaijan, I mentioned a couple of times before in Nations League that I've been backing Central Asian + Caucasus teams quite a bit when paired up with East European teams -- obviously there must be a lot of betting action with the actual European teams, but Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, they've been performing in Nations League. Don't take them when odds are bad, but away especially, it's not like Slovakia is super reliable either (lost twice to... guess it, Kazakhstan!).

I take same approach in Europa and Conference now UEFA membership is really expanding! This will be super value for several more years.

interesting tactics, did not thought it through, but it does look compeling
central Asian states that are now playing in European competition are a bit undervalued by bookies, and underestimated by general population

when Serbia loses to Azerbeijan, it is looked as catastrophe on that, and when we lose to Slovakia, it is ok, they play football as well
and Azerbeijan took some solid players in their squad, Kazakhstan as well, not sure about Georgia dough

Germany is screwing up again against Hungary and this time in their home field,if they don't manage to win this they will get a devastating humiliating result for them,Hungary is a normal team and Germany should be well prepared before starting the World Cup just one month after the Nations League ends.If they can't beat Hungary in their relatively difficult group at the World Cup they are going to have a hard time qualifying there.Beside this they also screwed up my perfect score in the pool as I predicted 2-0 win to nil for them because I thought playing before their fans should make them get an easy victory,bad night for me in the pool so far.

Germany have really been a huge disappointment for me too so far. I have no problem with their conceding a goal actually because my pick was 3-1 Germany win in the pool. However the biggest problem now is that Germany can't even score one goal after leaving one hour behind in the game.  ;D

They have increased their dominance even more in the second half but Hungary are still resisting them very well. Actually Werner made me happy for a short time but it turned out that the goal was disallowed due to offside. Considering the current situation of the standings in the pool, it might be better for this game to end like this for me. Because it doesn't seem like Germany can score three goals in a row in the remaining time period. Italy - England also isn't going on in favour of me as I picked 2-1 England win.

Germany lost. England are relegated to second division League B

me:
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at least i got 3 points from Italy 1-0 (expected shitfest from England), but Germany, ffs!! no wonder Brazil are the main favorites to win the next WC

That should be enough for you to go in the winning spots and congrats for such choice,everyone,the bookies were thinking of a narrow England win or a draw,I did got for a 1-1 draw and in the 96 minutes England had a huge chance but they just hit the ball over the bar.For Germany I can bet my house that they will not qualify further than the group stage in the World Cup,I saw the second half very carefully,only few occasions were created to score goals and German team looked a lot like a tired team,I don't know why Muller still continues to play for Germany while in today game he was nonexistent.

What a horrible night for me in the pool with 0 points.

Are we in 1954? Hungary had recovery his memorie, well no and yes at the same time. They are again fighting against the big but doesnt have the goals of that time, now they need a kind of Puskas, Kocksis to destroy the other teams, and be again the Great Hungary.

England.... great time to have a downshift. B ut better now and not in the WC.

The whole europe seems pretty bad against Brazil and Argentina this time, but this its football so.... nobody can know what can pass in the WC

It is a very strange group, in the Group 3, Hungary was supposed to be the walkover team for other teams in their group, but they've grabbed 5 points off Germany in two games, and they also got all 6 points off England too, They've lost just one game so far and it was to Italy.

How stranger can football get, If Hungary should progress to the next round ahead of England, Germany and Italy all combined, All the Hungarian national team needs now is a draw against Italy to make a grand history.

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No goals from open play for England so far in the tournament after 450+ minutes, i mean that's quite the accomplishment right there.  :o

Being relegated from group A also means they won't be in POT 1 for the Euro 2024 draw!

...off to Montenegro and Albania in the next Nations League cycle!  :D

England making a real mess of things, will be very popular next season when they play in Tier 2. Probably gonna be very proud when they finally manage to win against somebody. Couldn't happen to more humble nation :)

Fair play to Hungary, they really put those big names in the place and showed them that you actually have to play good football to collect points. I did not watch the match but anticipated something like Germany with 20 shots and unable to score but it seems it was a really even game according to the stats. Could be a strange world cup.

heh, 1950's vibes when they won the WC and the Olympics. Puskás would be proud 🥲 Hopefully Szoboszlai, the next star of the team, will be spearheadingd Hungary's new golden era

nah, they're totally gonna shit the bed in the WC... i'm already looking for this market in the bookies: "England to NOT make it to the Knockout stage", gotta jump on it fast before the odds go down to 1.20 or something 🤣

Who could have thought that Hungary with one round remaining already will have guaranteed themselves 1st place in group of death. On the other hand, it shows  attitude of some teams towards Nations League. I hope that @buwaytress  made some nice money backing Hungary :).
It wasn't bad day for me. Spent my 1 mBTC freebet on Georgia win and also had Italy win. So, recovered after yesterday's loses.

Does winning B League counts as trophy? If yes - football is coming home.

Fuck sake! I wish Hungary would seal that top spot by all means, I mean they've freaking deserve it! And to think of what the average England squad value is estimated to be worth, with Kane, Sancho, Sterling and Foden and all the likes of folks they've got in the midfield, they could only score 1 goal from those 5 matches so far, and conceded 7 goals down that stretch, I don't even know what to make of this going into the world cup, I get that would be a different ball game, but then aren't these games what we first get to judge them by ?



That might be way the go, but England are paired against Iran, Wales and USA, the odds for them not to make the knockout stages should be nothing less 10 odds, if not way more than that.

So much for my hopes, 2 wrong guesses on the matches last night. Firstly, whoever picked Hungary has a witchcraft to do, and whoever picked Italy, you know England so well lol


I love that guy, even before what happened to him. He will have many more years in making people happy ;)

Still can't believe not more people chose Italy to win 1-0!!

It counts but I don't think football is coming home with B league  ;D.Judging from their performance though it will be extremely difficult for them to win even league B,they seemed a much different team than the one who got to the final of the Euro Cup and which they nearly won it just a couple of months ago.They need to improve the performance of the new players and synchronize them well with old ones like Harry Kane and other attackers,England yesterday was suffering from creating dangerous attacks and I doubt it was Italy defense that did not let them,it was more themselves confusion.

England played 5 games in this competition and did not score a single goal from open play. With players like Kane, Sterling, Rashford, Sancho, Foden and who knows who I am forgetting here I would get rid of Southgate asap. That is not bad luck that is criminal performance.

And then you lose both games against Hungary and to make it even worse you lose 4:0 at home, at Wembly. How do you think opponents feel after coming to Wembly now? Well I guess they are all thinking, if Hungary can score 4 against this team we can do at least double :) Sort of like playing against Leicester in PL, all the opposition attackers getting on the pitch with smile on their faces.

It is really funny to see Hungary topping the group including England, Germany and Italy. It has to be said though that it is well deserved - they have the best offense (tied with Germany) and by far the best defense record in the group.
Conceding only 3 goals in 5 games in a group like this really speaks volumes.

I will cheer for them in what appears to be one of the easiest games of the group - Italy at home. A draw is enough for them to finish the group on top.

England relegated, they deserve to be, really. I can smell all sorts of value bets against them there.


Yes and will continue to be so, to the point you could almost play blindly (don't take my word for it) and just use H2H, form and odds value to pick winners haha. Physically, these teams are on par or perhaps even slightly better overall, when compared to some European leagues, at least to my observation.

Georgia's clubs have also won me quite a bit of money in UEFA comps, same as Armenia (and arguably Azerbaijan is just next door) -- they're robust, physical.


The way the likes of Germany and England play? Guess plenty. Pointless backing that kind of huge underdog in the pool I only got 1 point from doing that haha.

Nah, unfortunately I didn't take anything on them, not even sure what the odds were. Already had a nice bet riding that hit with Estonia/Georgia wins, and didn't feel like ruining my night. Should have just gone with the flow huh?!


Couldn't agree more, this is criminal. Southgate got a loooot of goodwill for what he seemed to do (bring the English together after decades of infighting) and last big final, but time for a refresh methinks.

I have a feeling we're going to see an upset today,, hmm

I think England will be humbled in the WC. Iran are a tough side in the World Cups. Sure they never make it past the group stage, but they know how to put up a fierce fight. I remember in 2014, Argentina had a really tough time vs Iran. And in 2018 both Spain and Portugal also faced some troubles against Iran. Wales and USA can't be underestimated, 50/50 games for current England. Grim

Sack Southgate and change the group dynamics and tactics two months before WC? Sounds risky. FA will keep Southgate and weather the storm. I'm pretty sure that even if they reach the wc final after a miracle run, the fa will still sack Mr. fancy waistcoat

Btw, "Performance 'step in the right direction', says Gareth Southgate" (https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/63013107)  Just trust the process, bruv 💪

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After having a poor day yesterday the competition for the lead has heated up even more. Maybe it might even change tonight and I wouldn't be surprised about it. Trusting the favourites didn't help me at all yesterday. But I can't hold myself about repeating this. Even though I know that big teams generally don't care about the Nations League much I still continue to make my predictions depending on their current condition.

This time I hope that Spain and Portugal won't upset me about my picks. Technically they both need wins today to keep fighting for the playoff round. Portugal might seem risky as they are playing away. Czech Republic's performance against Spain here was really good. If they become that much effective again very stressful minutes will be waiting for me.  ;D

So after the first night where all games went well,yesterday games didn't go according to plan and was a huge surprise from Germany losing to Hungary,it is still continuing tonight with Switzerland surprising Spain and leading right now,again my pool looks like I will get 0 or almost 0 points here as I had predicted a clean sheet for Spain,hopefully it does not end the same like Germany yesterday.

The lead will keep heating if surprise results happen and some of the users predict them in a bid to try to go all in or all broke,if these results come true then most probably the daring person will be at the top of the standings as just 8 games beside the ones of tonight remain for this pool.

Also Spain lost today it's first place in the group so a lot of upset and important teams who lost points in last 2 days but it's kinda normal with WC approaching and UCL and internal competitions are having an impact on every player but not on Portugal it seems as this squad is working like clockwork and I if they keep this pace for WC they might have a deep run. 8)

yeah, WC is certainly a priority for all national teams that qualified for that, so they are not under pressure for Nations league
but, you would expect from England not to relegate to B level, but they did just that

Switzerland is a good team, did not expected from them to win over Spain, but Spain was not looking good on attack last night, Portugal used that to the max against Czech

I was surprised by how badly Spain played,the only good thing they did is to get that over 70% ball possession but which in the end served for nothing,they were extremely confused when they were near the goalkeeper zone and they made a lot of mistakes.Switzerland on the other side was really good at creating dangerous actions and the most dangerous actions for the game were from them and they deserved the win yesterday.Portugal 0-4 I believe no one expected this big win from them especially against a team which had 0 loses before this one when playing at home.

Ripping all of my bets for the weekend, I was so so confident of them I decided to put them in several multibets and lost everything, ML lost, score over 1.5 lost, even lost a booking point item as they somehow didn't get even a yellow card lol.

Portugal are so far the only "big team" to look like they enjoy scoring goals, and they're Spain's next opponent so I feel the odds are quite unfair as they're still the favorite?

Problem is Portugal is pragmatic team and draw is enough for them. They will defend and wait for opening, if it comes great, if it doesn't, main thing is to keep clean sheet.

Couple of solid bets today for me, I believe France and Croatia are much closer to wins today so I decided on tripple with x2 on those two games plus both to score on Netherlands - Belgium match.

Looks we are on the same page,I also believe France to win and also Croatia as lately they are in top form so I would only expect for them to continue to behave at such level.The sure choice to get the win is to bet on both teams to score in a game which I predict to be a festival of goals in Netherlands vs Belgium game as that has always been the case when the two teams have played each other lately.

For me this is the critical night to decide at 90% the winners of the pool as after this night we have only two other nights but those nights will have 2 games each so I don't think that many changes to happen in the last couple of games.This was a very interesting pool so far.

Austria - Croatia is important for both teams. Winning this game will be enough for Croatia to reach next round. I believe that they can be victorious in this one. They won their last three games in the group and this helped them take the lead before the last games. Croatia defeated an even more difficult opponent like Denmark before this game. I know that Austria defeated them 3-0 away at the beginning. But Croatia are not the same now. They are more effective in terms of defending and attacking both.

Belgium are on a very difficult duty now. Because winning this game by any score isn't enough for them to take the lead. Because after equalizing the points they need to be better against Netherlands in terms of head-to-head games also. Netherlands beat them 4-1 before so Belgium will need to win by this score difference at least also to steal the playoff ticket from them. But it feels like Netherlands won't even lose this game and we might see a draw at the end.

In my opinion, there are actually some fixed games with very good odds today. For example, Turkey will win against the Faroe Islands and the odds are >1.3 and higher  ;D

So if the Nations League today also delivers strange or false results today, I'll give up betting  :D

eight more games till finish line
Denmark is my pick for tonight, France won over Austria to overcome them on the table, but still not secure from relegation, but other way around, Austria need to win over Croatia to get over France, in case France does not win

and most probably Croatia will win over Austria, which put France on rest, and Denmark do not need this win, but will try to get scalp of big team

Netherlands should proceed from other group, but expect goals, I cannot predict outcome of their duel with Belgium

50/50 game, imo. Fun fact: head-to-head record since 2012: five consecutive draws  👀

Generous odds for Turkey playing against part time dentists and bricklayers. -1.5 handicap look tasty at 2 odds... Turkey have secured promotion to League B in the previous match so today they're going with a B team in the starting 11, still, it's a winnable match

I just checked out the starting players and most of the players are actually good ones. Therefore I see a handicap result for Turkey as realistic. I'll be watching with interest, I've already placed my bet on Handicap!

Austria Croatia is also interesting from the odds because I expect Croatia to draw or win. double Chance for croatia is maybe a good idea  ;D

Lovren is starting for Croatia - which probably means that Dalić is still on the fence and unsure whether it will be him or Šutalo alongside Gvardiol in Qatar.

I don't like how our team is set up for the game - but it is still a team that should dominate against Austria. We have lost the first game against them in a disappointing way, I think we won't underestimate them again. After all, a win takes us to the semifinals.

France maybe cannot do anything to get to the top of the group but a win can do good to them for the World Cup starting in November.I know Denmark needs the win more as they maybe thinking a win from them and a draw from Croatia would put them to the top of the group but this is a double edged sword,once they go hard in attack they are left behind vulnerable and France doesn't make mistakes in such situations they usually score,they have big names in their team compared to Denmark that is why I have got for France tonight.

Netherlands should win but as I said a lot of goals are predicted.

I've literally given up at least at this point on any other fixture from this break, I'd probably just see a few of them more but I'd be having no dime on the line, way too many inconsistencies to keep up with.

I've seen a couple of people talk about the potential upsets that might happen in the upcoming World Cup, I might have to add this, I'm all ready for it, there's no big team out there right now that is worth putting the cards on.

So I really have nothing to say, Faroe Islands are 2-0 up and I'm really wondering if I should just stop betting?  :D :D :D

Many people will probably have missed it, but in league C Faroe Islands are ahead against Turkey with 1-1. That is one of the lowest ranked countries worldwide. Not even semi-pros. This will be a shame if Turkey doesn't win this. And a draw is also quite a let down actually. Maybe Turkey doesn't take it all that seriously and meanwhile we still don't see many goals tonight. France is also still 2-0 behind, so I don't think a win is possible anymore. They will be happy if they pull out another 2-2 draw. You don't go to the World Cup with a good feeling like this.
EDIT: I see Turkey is now 2-0 down. What would be the odds for that?

Denmark - France is going on very surprisingly. Denmark are still in the lead by 2-0 thanks to the goals they scored in five minutes in the first half. I was expecting a clear France win in this one. Because technically there is still a possibility for Austria to leave them behind and get rid of relegating. It is still very difficult for Austria to win against Croatia though. France still have a big chance to stay in League A.

Netherlands - Belgium match still continues to be the most boring match of the night unlike the expectations.  ;D  It is still the only match there is no goal in. It doesn't seem like Belgium really want the lead. I must have thought very positive about them that I picked a 3-1 win for them in the pool.

There were 24 corners in Denmark-France and that is crazy because it means around 3 corners on every 10 minutes ...and whoever had bets in corners , I'm sure that he is more than satisfied. Overall, Denmark played better today and deserve to win but Mbappe had 2 great scoring chances in order to make it draw but Schmeichel is a great goalkeeper and we can't deny it. Also Erikssen did a huge game today as he ran a lot and also had great positioning and creating space for his team.  8)

I didn't expect Poland to win and I thought a draw would come in as a minimum,they ruined my night otherwise I would have got near 5 points but now I got only 2.5 points,I don't care much as I knew I would not finish in the top 5 finishing positions but I thought Wales should have been able to equalize.

France what a shameful performance,having players like Mbappe in your team should make a difference while clearly it did not here.I got at least two results the Croatian win and the Netherlands win.It is finishing now but the Nations League showed really bad football from the so called top teams.

Probably I should stop betting on Nations League - I had 4 bets today and lost all. I had under 2.5 in Austria - Croatia game and when 2 goals in 9 minutes were scored I already knew that it will not pass. Over 2.5 in Netherlands - Belgium and there is just 1 goal scored. BTTS in Denmark - France and France failed to score. Slovakia ML against Belarus and they failed to beat team which didn't even played football today. Didn't made bet on this game, but c'mon, Turkey losing against Faroe Islands... Can't wait until end of international break.
Strangely I'm not doing that bad in predictor, I even managed to get up by 1 place, despite that I forgot to leave picks on Saturday's games and now I share 1st place with @ILuckyGuyI

Aren't France the world cup champions ? and Aren't they the 2nd favorite to win the world cup this year ? so what does it mean that they lost multiple matches ended up placing third in their group against not really big teams considering the fact that France are the world champions.

I'm very regretful about changing my 2-1 Poland win pick.  :'(  There was some kind of a feeling inside me later that Wales would get a dramatic win by the same score but it wouldn't be enough for moving on in the same league. But Poland didn't leave their job to chance and defeated them 1-0. It cost me 1.5 points as a result.

Netherlands - Belgium match was another shocker for me as I believed in Belgium to get a win here even if they wouldn't manage to qualify for the playoffs. They actually had many opportunities to enter the match again but were able to score none of them. Even a 1-1 draw would be useful. Now I understand why bookmakers were favouring Netherlands instead.

I had conflicting feelings today, wanted my Croatia to win so we get to that final four but at the same time I wanted France to drop to lower tier. They did not deserve to stay up with performances like these and it would be sort of poetic to give England company in lower division.

I believe everybody is aware that France national team is worth more then teams of Croatia, Denmark and Austria combined but to put things into even better perspective France has 2M registered football players just on men's side. That is half of the whole Croatian population so it is probably fair to say that they have same amount of footballers like we have men in our country.

My mistake was putting Spain on everything, I just felt the way Barca was playing would translate enough into their players, but then didn't realize as a team would be so shit lol

I got Spain to win in World Cup but they are not the favorites, which team do you think? Big underdog?


Did not realize that about Spain/Portugal wow. Maybe I should put a draw down on them on a bet...

And Turkey B team lose to bricklayers, I wouldn't have been shocked to see A team lose!


So a draw it is for Spain ;)

France are shit, Croatia winning games and scoring, Belgium cannot score against weak Holland team?

It means that they did not took it that seriously the Nations League.Despite losing so many games they will still be in league A in Nations League even for the next year while Austria will be relegated to league B and Croatia will move further to the play offs.

I understand your frustration and it is the same as mine as I did bet on France to win the game yesterday and despite Mbappe having really flagrant chances to score twice he missed both of them.If the game between Denmark vs France was to be played for a World Cup event I am sure the result of the game would be much different.This result shows that big teams don't care much about this competition.

Today I am putting extra big bet on England - Germany both to score. This game means nothing to either of them, England is relegated and Germany can't win the group. But England must show something to improve the mood before World Cup while Germany would be happy to add few more nails to their coffin.

Really need one win in this competition to offset all the loses   ::) stll can't belive Belgium or France didn't score yesterday.

A lot of friends and people I know are all predicting a draw with goals for this game but seeing the last game of Germany makes me wonder if they can score.Then I think of England pathetic performance so far where they conceded 7 goals so this should make sure that Germany will be able to score against them.I wonder if England will score though as they have only scored one goal in this league but the funny thing,they have scored it against Germany,this means your bet should be an easy win.

The pool is on fire with 3 candidates to fight for the top spot and a couple of others for the remaining ones while only 4 games remain including these two of tonight.

Belgium was a killer yesterday, 1 goal on that match was really unexpected

France was not that unexpected, Denmark win was best part of my betting yesterday

regarding England and Germany, not sure, but Italy @1.95 looks interesting, Hungary had their moment, but it is coming to an end

England has a very good-looking squad, but their performance in the current National League is shockingly bad; they haven't won a match since the start of their group stage, have only two draws, and have lost three of their five opening matches.
Germany is not at the top, but they will hope to win in order to gain more points if Italy loses to Hungary.


They need a win against their world cup preparations as well as to inspire confidence in their fans ahead of the world cup letter this year.

I also had 4 bets and lost 3. Only one I won was Faroe Islands. There was obviously something hugely wrong with Turkish National team. I even heard they might lost on purpose so the Turkish football federation people would resign, nevertheless this is an extreme thought. This Nations League is not so welcomed by players, I think. Most of the teams have had weird results, of course weirdest would be Faroe Islands. And I also lost my bet on France. Denmark once again showed that the Euro 2020 semi-final was not a coincidence. They managed to beat France in both matches in the group. I was expecting France to be the better team in that game and I failed.

And here comes another drama unfolding, Germany looking likely to steal the win with a 2 goals lead early enough into the second half, but what could be worse than Germany giving it all up within just 10 minutes, now England have all the advantage to finally get their first win of the tournament. Crazy game!

At least you won your bet!

EDIT: I guess I was rather too hasty with my post, it's 3-3 now!

We've barely witness goals for majority of this nations league, but today goals seems to flying all over, I feel bad enough for Hungary, I really wish they'd secure that top spot, kudos to Italy.

I had it a draw for the game between England and Germany but just two minutes before changed to a England win,I don't regret doing it,England completely dominated the game and it was 2 times errors from MacGuire and one time error from the goalkeeper that they conceded three goals while the goals of England were much more spectacular.I won the bet though as I had it both teams to score like all the world predicted a 1-1 draw for this event so only the pool is lost so far for me.

Italy just did their job and I knew they will have an easy win against a Hungary which showed nothing in their last game where they won against Germany.Italy in the play offs,well deserved.

same feeling about Hungary, but hedged it with bet on Italy, so both outcomes make me happy
Hungary had good run, won some remarkable matches, but it was clear that they are not going to make it today, they are simply low quality team, and this was like final for them (and they even not needed to win the match, just to pick the draw)

England and Germany provided goals in the end, Kane converted one more penalty, would be interesting to see penalty percentage for his goals

Such an insane game by England and Germany tonight!

They made us experience every kind of emotion tonight.  :D  England's comeback was unbelievably awesome! While you are 2-0 behind and defensively weak it isn't easy for you to pull yourself together and fight for the win still. But England did it in a very short time period. But this was still not enough to cover their weaknesses in defense. This time because of Nick Pope's mistake Germany found the equalizer and didn't let them win 3-2.

Maybe Maguire and Pope didn't deserve the win but the rest of the team deserved this after turning the game around superbly. But they had to make do with a 3-3 draw I'm afraid.

well, it was really fascinating to see the live reactions of England fans on social media tonight... everyone went from "this team is a disgrace" after the 0-2, to "It's coming home, lads!!1" after the big comeback,, and then again "absolute disgrace!" with the 3-3. What a roallercoaster  ;D

it was a fluke. 1.3 odds not hitting, meh it is what it is, happens to best of us. No reason to stop tbh, as long as it is money you can afford to lose, keep going and you'll hit the next one  ;)

hell of a game! Not the best result but at least it'll boost the morale of England NT and the fans,, Sure the team failed to put an end to the winless streak, but at least they were able to find the net, they showed some good bits of exciting football and there's some hope that this team can improve.

Today I made short break from betting after bad run. And seems that it wasn't bad decision. It already looked that England will have another disgraceful performance, but they managed to make comeback from 0:2 to 2:2 and even took a lead. Not for long, Pope made big mistake and let Havertz to score easy goal. Any way, today's game showed that England is capable to play.
I put draw on Hungary - Italy game, but somehow I didn't realized that Italy still have chance to take 1st place in group and win for them would be important today. And they did it.
Interesting, inside drama in Turkish team isn't something new. But this time I guess they simply didn't looked into game seriously, after they alread had guaranted 1st place in group.

LOL :D. Typical England fans.

We Turks really love chaos. People were talking about sacking the coach even before the Luxembourg match. They didn't even concede any goal in the group then. After these results this kind of talks have increased in number. In my opinion, there will be a change of coach for Turkey national team in the near future. The biggest reason for it is that the media want to see a local and more prominent name to work with the team rather than a failure of the current coach.


Yesterday Trofo made a calculation here. If I make a similar calculation there are 13985 men who are aged between 15 and 54 living in Faroe Islands which Turkey lost to. The level of the shock has been big in the country as we lost to a country that is having a difficulty in even finding people for a match on astro pitch.

Anyway, I have positive news for me. I'm not at the last position in the pool anymore. 😂

You must have felt so happy when England finally scored. After not getting a single field goal from the entire tournament they managed to get 3, but also, they let in 3. Both teams probably spoke to each other and agreed they should score many goals to make sure their bosses stayed in their jobs lol.

BTTS dangerous in Nations League.

It is very dangerous in national football to play both to score but that is why we have better odds. For instance I was quite sure this game will have at least 4 goals, even went for 2:2 in the pool and odds were 1.88. Great value and finally it passed. I was also sure France would not lose day before and I expected more goals from some other teams.

That is why I ended up so deep in red. This bet is enough to bring me close to zero, so skipping betting on this competition and waiting for club football to resume.

You can most likely rest assured that Portugal vs Spain will be a both teams to score yes as both teams will play normally and will not underestimate this game,against Switzerland Spain completely underestimated the game and they played extremely poorly,they just kept ball possession but every other dangerous stat was in favor of Switzerland which won the game.

Also I expect a both teams to score yes in Switzerland vs Czech Republic game and of course a Switzerland win after seeing their great game play against Spain.

Swiss has goal in first 15' minutes in five of last six matches home in Nations league, so should happen again

nevertheless, I have some bets on Czech to win and Spain to win, and this time I also have these in Superbru (it is last round, so nothing to lose)

Portugal is good team, but they also needed home draw to qualify to WC against Serbia, and lost, and Spain is way better than Serbia (although I would like it differently)

I agree to your comparison as Spain is better than Serbia but the problem is that Spain had a lot of difficulties in the game against Switzerland at home so Portugal in the same context comparison like you did it is much stronger than Switzerland and the fact that they lost against Serbia means the tensions were much higher than they are in the Nations League.Portugal is also the team that won this league in the inaugural year of 2019 and why not them to qualify again for the play offs phase of this league in 2022.

Good to see it end up well for you Trofo. I hate doing that, to be honest, big final bet to wipe the slate clean, but I fully understand the feeling my man, do it way too often since last season haha.

So it'll be Croatia, Italy, Netherlands and... I would say, Portugal? (I think Trofo's right, they'll play for a pragmatic draw but might even win it).

Speaking of Trofo's calculations, of course, we can't compare directly because different countries have different developmental attributes but to make it worse, France's 2 M footballers probably have even more value because of the development facilities the nation has. So we can revel in their shame!

The last time I came up with something similar was 2 Olympics ago. A kid from my village (my people's population is about 180,000 people, though we represent a much bigger country) won silver at diving... we aren't known swimmers, never mind medallists, certainly not divers, don't even have a pool to practise in, but apparently she used a deep end of a river and somehow outperformed in the finals.

Anyway I recall reading also that Chinese divers across the whole academy were over 1 million. 5 times more than my entire population. Not the type to feel proud about something I got nothing to do with but felt pretty chuffed about the kid too!

Whoops, veering off.


Welcome to the semifinals... all the bloody way in June! Missed this thread by a brainfart and wrote somewhere else initially heh. I still like seeing Lovren play, but was sweet that he got the goal too!

Did not see this post from crypofrka before. I think Lovren is 4th in the line at the moment. Both of you are forgetting Erlic who was excellent in tandem with Šutalo. Best performance from Croatia defense in a very long time for those two games against France and Denmark.

Guardiol is probably secure because of the hype and playmaking skills, while second CB will be chosen between Šutalo and Erlic with Lovren maybe in rotation for last 20 minutes when result is in our favour and we want a bit more experience on the pitch.

Another point from the game for me was the fact that Maguire managed to get into the headlines as well as almost every other goal scorer or those that impacted the game, positively. There were so many talks about him and several post advising him to try out other sport, perhaps golfing or UFC  ;D


It's looking likely to be goalless between Spain, with barely 8 minutes left to play, Spain have been better side 2nd half, despite Portugal's commendable performance in the first 45 minutes.

Congratulations to all winners,the big prize got home to Ulven,it is strange when you think that he was not between the favorites at all when the last games of this week started,this shows that playing in such pools is always full of emotions.It was for me as I was fighting for that fifth place until tonight where the scoring goal of Czech ruined my 3 points in that game and Spain winning was totally unexpected for me especially after they horrible performance against Switzerland,yet they managed to qualify for the play offs.

I enjoyed this pool and look forward to other ones,good luck everybody.

Congrats to all the winners!

https://i.imgur.com/CFbATeZ.gif

and a a big congratulations to @Ulven, managed to win the last two yellow caps of the pool  :o  totally deserves that first place

looking forward to the next pool

Congrats to @Ulven for winning Nations League pool - well deserved. As I understand @Leea-1334 managed to get into rewarded position just in last round by going up by 5 places - very well done
And congrats to myself for staying 3rd, despite that last few matchdays weren't good for me :D. Now I think I have to put money that I won asside and reserve it for upcoming World Cup pool. We will have it, right?
Congrats for our Croatian folks for reaching semifinals. 1st place in such group is great achievement. As I understand, now draw for semifinals will be made? I'm still not full familiar with tournament format :D

That was pretty stunning and duly well deserved too, I never even really check my picks for the remainder of the games, now I understand how people when you drop all the momentum very early in the pool, and it's practically impossible to play catch up except you're going literally against every expected pick with the hope it hits.

At least the bore-fest is finally and in 3 days, we'll be talking about club side football yet again 😊 and my heart goes out to the teams with a couple of players picking a knock or an injury over the period.

Nope, did not forget Erlić - I wrote about him a few posts before the one you quoted (or possibly in another thread, not sure).
They were good, I agree. I still feel that with Erlić we've seen too little to be sure and there's not much time left for further testing.

Therefore I feel that Lovren will take that 3rd spot, I just hope he won't take the 2nd.

There isn't any more time for testing but I think he already did enough. We shall see, also hope Lovren will be our option from the bench and not starter.

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Congrats to the winners, feel free to post your BTC address here. We have rewards for first 5 places and you know who you are, everything as per Superbru official ranking. I will write them officially later today when I get home, but if I already have all your addresses I can immediately send out the money as well ;)

Happy for Spain, but not sure I should be, because they will then have to play all the way at the end of next season instead of taking a break. Maybe worth it for them though especially young guys.

We were super lucky I guess.

Oh and I am in 6th position, so close and nothing. But congrats to Ulven and everyone who won prizes here!


I didn't realize this actually that BTTS is higher for national football, it's not a market I usually look at but I have to admit since discussing in the forum and seeing a lot of things from you, buwaytress, especially I find myself betting on things I never looked at before.

First of all, it's been a really great journey in the pool. Congrats @Ulven!

You made a huge comeback on the final days and won the pool. I'm sad for losing the lead on the last day but it was a lot of fun from the beginning to the end.

@Trofo  Here is my BTC address for the payment:

bc1qmxcn7j7fu38h9ugxzd7zgkaq4tjp6yv88tn7zg

I'm looking forward to joining next pool. :)

I certainly hope so! Cause I'm ready to throw money into the WC pool. Nicely done on getting prize spots on final days... I actually did alright mainly but far away from everything. I did make good money in the earlier games so very happy with NL overall haha.

Damn you Ulven!


No idea how the draw happened but I think it'll be decided later, all that's certain is the final is on 23rd June. You could get pregnant now and get your baby first before the final haha.

Lol I didn't expect that I would win first place, the game was really fun and made me taste cake. I think there are more pools I have to advance to ;D ;D
This is a winning ticket for last night
https://i.ibb.co/tpJrsk8/A2239654-BFBF-41-DB-B281-4-F23-FB2544-B0.jpg


Thank you everyone for the congratulations, and I wish you good luck in the other pools as well.

@Trofo  Here is my BTC address ;)
bc1qdcjvfl0ka86dattekjaswa6qgjn0fkcgjs6dmq

Damn, that is one fine ticket, you have league of nations in your pocket. Considering that you don't need the money now I feel like your reward should go to the fund "hopelessly lost all the tickets on fuc.... national games".

Just kidding of course, but I still can't belive you got that Spain win on the ticket. I was sure Portugal isn't loosing that one.
I expected Serbia to do well and draw would have been my pick for Ukraine game if I had to play it.

Congrats to the winners and most of all to Ulven who managed to win the last two rounds and also i see you are performing too good in the bets. Good tournament for you seems.

I cant recovery for my shit start. 0 points on firts round (idont know how), and only 5 in the second round , GG. After that i went normal to good because i was in the middle and up in the rest of the rounds but that start really kills everything.

So here is the official list of rewards and people that got them:
1. 28 mBTC - Ulven - bc1qdcjvfl0ka86dattekjaswa6qgjn0fkcgjs6dmq
2. 15 mBTC - ILuckyGuyI - ILuckyGuyI - bc1qmxcn7j7fu38h9ugxzd7zgkaq4tjp6yv88tn7zg
3. 10 mBTC - LTU_btc - LTU_btc
4. 5 mBTC - leea-1334 - leea-1334
5. 2 mBTC - Hoody Hoo - morvillz7z - 1CamuXXp3rrDiupLAW4X21cAJJaNkeeMS

@LTU_btc & @leea-1334
Hey guys please send me your BTC addresses asap so I can send out the rewards :)

congrats, you made it in last rounds
Nations league was an interesting competition, with a lot of surprises and saw England relegated in the end, but also Serbia joining top Group A, winning over Norway in last round

back to club competition, and four leagues prediction for this weekend

I got the address from LTU_btc but still waiting for leea. Just saying so you guys don't think I am slacking. Always like to get my rewards asap, so I try to pay them out promptly as well. Sent him a pm as well so I hope it will be on your wallets tomorrow.

I don't think that anyone is thinking like that. Besides, thank you very much for organizing this pool. You prevented me from staying away from football while there were national games.

By the way the last time leea-1334 was online was September 5. Because of that it might take you a long time to reach him.

I spoke with him via PM was about a month ago, and he mentioned that he was having "personal issues" or something along those lines which could prevent him from accessing the forum.
I just sent him a BruMail about you trying to get in contact with him; so hopefully he reaches out to you shortly.

I'm sorry to hear about this. I hope that he can manage to solve his problem as soon as possible. He is one of the very valuable members of the forum. I wish to see him back among us again shortly.

Yeah, he let me know as well, I rembered that, but went to chech his profile and looked at wrong time stamp in a hurry (current local time) and thought he was just here  ;D

Not a problem then, I am paying out other rewards later today when I get home and holding his until he gets back.

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Edit: Payment sent, keeping the reward for leaa until I hear from him.
Tx id: 63d5e8061d345e508dbe4a18d893cc437f6e01f24260e248c19840300d6c0601

Should be confirmed in about 10 minutes

I've got the payment, Trofo. Thank you for everything.  :)

This has been one of my first pools on the forum and it has been a great experience for me. I'm ready to allocate some amount of the prize I won from this pool for the next one. I wasn't able to join the Champions League pool because of some reasons but now I can join another pool sponsored by Sportsbet.io without a problem.  :)

Glad we have you hooked on pool action :) Most pools have started and will not be available until next season but we will have World Cup pool for sure. That one should start about one month before world cup so keep your eye on that. Maybe place Premier League pool thread on watch list since it will be advertised there for sure.

Hello everyone, so sorry about long silence,,, I have been on a very long sick leave, had to leave my job and also means I cannot go online much at all now, new life, new stuff,,, definitely still try to make all my superbru picks for everything, but even my betting is very quiet now, internet sucks here.

Thanks for the prize everyone and Trofo and Sportsbet especially. I will try to come back but I think it will be a long time more,,, have to see if can find new job with nearer distance but not easy.

I miss you all a lot  :-\

MY address: 1FS59CZvNMAMCHmn1heddqbQHBuzG1KSpj

Great to hear from you, even if it isn't the best news. Hope it will all work out for you in the end. Take care of your health first and job situation will work itself sooner or later.

Anyway, I will send you your reward later today when I get home.

Hey, good to hear from you too, even if not in best of times. I think someone mentioned earlier also you were on leave but didn't realise you'd left the forum till now.

Take it easy. As Trofo says, just take care of health and everything personal first, everything else falls into place after that. You're at your best when fit and healthy =) Forum and pools and all that are also always here (fill in the entire superbru rounds too just in case), ping if you need anything, say hello on Clubtalk if you're ever there, you big winner!

Payment sent, here is tx id: de1d77498a8e75532e0b903cde9688386046913f2e4d14a30ee44b48d28092fb

@morvillz7z
As per rewards you got entitled to spare change (~0.5mBTC) form tx fees so I sent something towards you as well. Used that address I checked with you over the PM some time ago.

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That concludes our UEFA Nations Leagues pool, hope you all had as much fun as I did

if Trofo with sportsbet.io will start a prediction pool for the new nations league season again, the respective groups were drawn today.
you can find them below - the first matchday will take place on september 05-07
there will also be a new game mode... :P

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A new game mode? Something interesting? Do share. I am bit out of the loop since it is quite busy time for me in real life so some sports have to suffer. I didn't even know group draw is being made this early.

I guess there will be some sort of the pool, but starting time is terrible. Just after all major league have already started and Sportsbet will probably already have a sponsorship of all regular pools by then.

yeah, last season it was before the season starts
but maybe seasons will be postponed as well, since we do have EURO before that, it usually does, didn't check the calendar

nevertheless, expecting to see Euro pool here, and hopefully that will be sponsored by Sportsbet as well
it will come handy when all league pools are finished