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Title: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: lionheart78 on June 10, 2022, 07:39:37 AM
According to research on online gambling behavior by GamblingAware,  slot gaming is more likely to cause problem gambling than sports betting and is heavily skewed towards the most deprived area.[1]

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Insight into Online Gambling Landscape
Carried out by the National Centre for Social Research (NatCen) in collaboration with Professor David Forrest and Professor Ian McHale from the University of Liverpool, Patterns of Play analyzed online gambling data between July 2018 and June 2019 from seven major operators and a total of 139,152 online gambling accounts across bingo, live and virtual casino games, poker, slots, and sports betting.

The research sought to provide an insight into the online gambling landscape by answering four questions related to the basic patterns of play, the patterns’ variance for different types of people, patterns’ variance among different products, and types of behavior associated with problem gambling or at-risk gambling.

The NatCen data showed that online bettors with the largest losses were men around 40 and coming from economically deprived areas, while women dominated online bingo with 62%, in slot games female participation represented around one-third of all, while in casino and poker, similar to online betting, women’s share was less than a quarter.

More details about the research are here.[1]




But Why are slots so addicting?

In this article[2] we can read about the Psychology of Slots.  This tackles that slot machines is responsible for the greatest percentage of revenues in America's gambling capital in Las Vegas.  It also stated that the reason behind this success lies in our brain.


Cognitive Dissonance – The Psychological Phenomenon That Helps Us Gamble.
Just like how smokers disassociate from the well-known evidence that their smoking is killing them thru a psychological phenomenon called cognitive dissonance[3] Similarly, slot machines provoke cognitive dissonance amongst players.
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Every licensed slot machine in a land-based casino or online has a Return to Player (RTP) percentage that players can easily access.
This tells players on average, how much money they can expect to lose from every $100 spent wagering. Despite this figure proving to players that they will lose more than they win on average, people continue playing.
In much the same way that the nicotine rush of a cigarette makes the risks seem worth it, the chances of a big win help gamblers forget that they will on average, lose more than they will win.


Dopamine – The Brains Reward System

Whenever we do something that our primitive brain finds to be good or beneficial, such as eating, procreating and exercising a neurotransmitter called Dopamine is released in our brains. This chemical messenger is synonymous with pleasure and when it is released, we can often feel a sense of euphoria.[2]

Here are the factors stated on the article[2] why slots machine produce a high level of dopamine in our brain.
  • Video in slots machines
         Slots videos are designed to deliver great highs[4] and waves of euphoria to players.  Matching it with money rewards, huge amount of dopamine is released into the human brain.
  • Association of slot machines  with the intense feeling of pleasure
         This is the reason why continue playing slots machine even though they are losing, they keep on searching for the dopamine rush that a win can trigger
  • Designed to constantly offer small reward to keep players engaged
         This is specifically designed to activate the reward system in our brain as we begin to associate slots with pleasure, we will likely continue playing.


Interactive Controls – Increasing Control

Slot machines are designed for interactive controls.  This makes us feels that we are in control of every action we make thus giving us a sense of certainty ignoring the fact that winning and losing are really uncertain.
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every time you push down on the ‘spin’ button on a physical slot machine or an online slot, you are taking control in a way that your brain views as positive. Each time you press the button, the visual whirlwind of colours and shapes in front of your eyes release Dopamine in your brain.
No matter how many times you push the button, the same thing will happen, the reels on the slot will spin. This simple yet effective feedback loop boosts feelings of control amongst players which encourages them to ignore the uncertainty of winning or losing and play on for longer.


Visual & Audio Cues – Making Memories


Another factor why slot machines is addicting is its Visual and Audio Cues.  Whenever we win something, it retains in our memory because of these factors.  The more winnings we got from slots, the more prominent it will be in our minds.  It is because of the visual and sound effects we witnessed every time we win.
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Wins on a slot machine game are often followed by the sound of coins dropping from a height, flashing dollar signs on the screen and an array of flashing lights on the slot terminal. This makes a win on a slot a full-body experience that is not only intensely pleasurable and rewarding, but memorable too.

When these wins become etched on your brain, your Dopamine reward system is more likely to be activated whenever you think of slot machines. This helps to keep even the most casual of gamblers interested in slots for a long time, potentially even years after spinning the reels.


Summing up on  why Slots is very addicting

Slot machines aren’t a trick, nor have they been designed to deceive you and appeal to your primitive brain. Rather they are enjoyable distractions designed part by intention and part by accident to engage you for as long as possible.[2]


Add on:

Gambling Problem Possible Solution/Avoidance:

If ever you feel that you are in a borderline of being a compulsive gambler , you can refer on these list of link for ideas on how to deal with it.

  • The 10 most successful ways of overcoming gambling urges (https://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/memberarticles/the-10-most-successful-ways-of-overcoming-gambling-urges)
  • Gambling Addiction and Problem Gambling (https://www.helpguide.org/articles/addictions/gambling-addiction-and-problem-gambling.htm)
  • How to Help Someone With a Gambling Problem (https://www.psychguides.com/behavioral-disorders/gambling-addiction/how-to-help/)
  • How to Stop Gambling: 7 Helpful Tips (https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/process-addiction/compulsive-gambling/how-to-stop-gambling/)
  • Gambling - advice for family and friends (https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/gambling-advice-for-family-and-friends)


Sources and references:
[1] Research on Gambling Behavior Raised Red Flags around Slots (https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/research-on-gambling-behavior-raised-red-flags-around-slots/)
[2] The Psychology of Slot Machine (https://untamedscience.com/blog/the-psychology-of-slot-machines/#:~:text=Dopamine%20%E2%80%93%20The%20Brains%20Reward%20System&text=Because%20money%20is%20at%20stake,these%20intense%20feelings%20of%20pleasure.)
[3] Cognitive dissonance in tobacco smokers (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/030646039190028G)
[4] How Video Gaming Could Improve Your Cognitive Health And Skills (https://www.dumblittleman.com/benefits-of-video-gaming/)



A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: _act_ on June 10, 2022, 07:53:21 AM
Slots is not only the existing gambling, generally both sport and casino and other types of gambling can be addicting, that is why it is good to use the amount of money you can afford to lose to gamble. The problem of gambling is when someone is using large sum of money which is beyond his capability. It is not only slots that are addictive, all other gambling means are addictive. But what makes it most addictive are people that think they can make a living, earning, profit from gambling which will not be what will happen as the person continues gambling.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: gunhell16 on June 10, 2022, 08:10:49 AM
A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?


 First and foremost, not all the players in the slot machines are addicted unto it. Although in this topic you posted was too informative and helpful as well to everyone who are always in the gambling site. In fact, through this discussion you feed me about this things regarding  the cause of gambling problem. Now back to this question you asked, my answer is yes! I really felt uncontrollable, and I don't want to elaborate that's my experienced during the time I was addicted to slot machine I can't deny that things.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: TravelMug on June 10, 2022, 08:23:46 AM
A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?

I would say it's very very hard specially in the beginning wherein you first taste winnings, what we call beginners luck. And then you become hook up to it and becoming your favorite even though you know the odds are really not going to be in your favor in the long run and it's based on pure luck.

I don't know how I overcome it. maybe when I don't have money to gamble was the main reason. So at least I recover my insanity although from time to time I still play slots but not like those years and as I learn to control myself, I just gamble to have some fun.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: serjent05 on June 10, 2022, 08:50:05 AM

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A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?
 

I found the slots game to be very entertaining.  It is always the game I looked to play whenever I register to an online casino.  During my session I always prepare myself, making sure that I will be in control.  It often does the trick but sometimes when I am too engrossed in playing, the uncontrollable urge appears.  Maybe because I have funds in my hand, and many strategic (non-sense) ideas pop up and wanted to try them if they will work.  In short, curiosity triggers this uncontrollable urge but once I have done them it just dies down.


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How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?

I always keep myself educated on gambling fallacies.  I also think of the effect on my family if ever I went out of control and become insanely addicted to gambling.  Considering the pros and cons, the destructive result to my financial status, keeping responsibilities and pleasures in check.  Keeping oneself disciplined in the face of great pleasure is really hard but thinking of my family and goals in life keeps me from giving in to the addictive pleasure of slots.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: coin-investor on June 10, 2022, 09:00:05 AM

According to research on online gambling behavior by GamblingAware,  slot gaming is more likely to cause problem gambling than sports betting and is heavily skewed towards the most deprived area.[1]

...Another factor why slot machines is addicting is its Visual and Audio Cues.  Whenever we win something, it retains in our memory because of these factors.  The more winnings we got from slots, the more prominent it will be in our minds.  It is because of the visual and sound effects we witnessed every time we win.


I'm not a big fan of slots but dice are also as addictive as the slot machine, they have the same effect on players, all the other luck-based games that excite you will have a lasting effect even hours after you are out of your session, that is why casino operators like their interface attractive and unique from all the other dice games, because gamblers are visually excited at the sight or memory of something that always excites them, I believe it's not only on the slot but all the other luck based game like Dice and especially crash game.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Baofeng on June 10, 2022, 09:10:36 AM
I guess every games is really addicted, from slots to baccarat to dice and black jack. Every game has its own way to make people come and want to play more. Specially slots, those operators study the psychology, from the graphics to the sounds, they all put together to make it very attractive hence, addicting.

It just grown on me though, just tired of it when I go to land base or even online base casinos. Although there are a lot of new games, but it's just the same to me. And maybe I just had a lot of up and down, love and hate against slot machines that it is not the first option for me to play now.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: dothebeats on June 10, 2022, 10:06:09 AM
Every gambling game invented causes your brain to trigger the release of dopamine which, in turn, helps you get addicted to the game. You'll crave for it, your brain will always look for that pleasure you're getting regardless of the game you are playing. Slots, well, they are the easiest game you can get your hands into, and also probably the easiest to get your hopes up for. That's why the research ended up naming slots as the main culprit in this study, because of how simple and easy it is to get hooked in playing it.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Smartvirus on June 10, 2022, 10:26:38 AM
This research is some worth limited to slots bases of addiction and I think that shouldn't be. It pretty much applies to every game that is gambled on, be it Casino games or spots betting. The definitive nature of it is based on individual understanding, acceptance and liking towards a particular game to gamble upon. This is exactly how you get to build an addiction especially when you feel you know the game too well already and associate your trier frequencies to a win.
Slots and many other Casino games might seem this way compared to sportsbetting due to, the timing and how many go you could go in hours over the games you are particulate about bit the same doenst go for sportsbetging and I say this without considering the virtual reality aspect of it. So yeah, it's pretty much every game in the gambling industry.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: ralle14 on June 10, 2022, 11:17:15 AM
This reminds me of the time when I played slots regularly and the experience was frustrating since it's one loss after another eventually you have to come to a realization and draw the line or else it'll continue even further. It took me a while before I broke my habit and it started when I found a different hobby during my free time eventually it became a daily activity for me and it kept me busy so I have no time to start a gambling session. Even though we can be addicted to other games as well, I have to agree with the article as slot games definitely have the factors that trigger a lingering feeling to come back and play again.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: serjent05 on June 10, 2022, 11:18:16 AM
I'm not a big fan of slots but dice are also as addictive as the slot machine, they have the same effect on players, all the other luck-based games that excite you will have a lasting effect even hours after you are out of your session, that is why casino operators like their interface attractive and unique from all the other dice games, because gamblers are visually excited at the sight or memory of something that always excites them, I believe it's not only on the slot but all the other luck based game like Dice and especially crash game.

In terms of graphical representation, the dice and crash game is a bit monotonous which is why it gets boring as time passes by.  Aside from that it doesn't offer small rewards, it is either you win or lose and that is where slots attract more players.  With a variety of graphics, combinations, and possible rewards in every bet, players tend to have more interactive time with slots.  If you read the OP you can see the reasons on the quoted content
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Every licensed slot machine in a land-based casino or online has a Return to Player (RTP) percentage that players can easily access.
This tells players on average, how much money they can expect to lose from every $100 spent wagering. Despite this figure proving to players that they will lose more than they win on average, people continue playing.
In much the same way that the nicotine rush of a cigarette makes the risks seem worth it, the chances of a big win help gamblers forget that they will on average, lose more than they will win.
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every time you push down on the ‘spin’ button on a physical slot machine or an online slot, you are taking control in a way that your brain views as positive. Each time you press the button, the visual whirlwind of colours and shapes in front of your eyes release Dopamine in your brain.
No matter how many times you push the button, the same thing will happen, the reels on the slot will spin. This simple yet effective feedback loop boosts feelings of control amongst players which encourages them to ignore the uncertainty of winning or losing and play on for longer.
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Wins on a slot machine game are often followed by the sound of coins dropping from a height, flashing dollar signs on the screen and an array of flashing lights on the slot terminal. This makes a win on a slot a full-body experience that is not only intensely pleasurable and rewarding, but memorable too.
When these wins become etched on your brain, your Dopamine reward system is more likely to be activated whenever you think of slot machines. This helps to keep even the most casual of gamblers interested in slots for a long time, potentially even years after spinning the reels.

These three quoted content makes slots more addicting than any other gambling game.  Sure all the gambling games are addictive but research says the number of players playing slots, makes it the most addicting game on the gambling game arsenal.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: LodisMcguire on June 10, 2022, 11:19:04 AM
Many people in my city are addicted to this slot gaming on their phone.Even if they always lose,they still keep playing and deposited more and more money to their account.While there are some people that win big,but they lose it eventually.As long as there are money,they will keep tapping their phone till it become zero balance.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: AicecreaME on June 10, 2022, 12:07:59 PM
Slots machine is addicting because it's easy to play, people love it, of course you could make money on it easily if you are lucky. People love to earn big amount of money in an easy way, that's why slots is one the games that could be the key to make wealth overnight. However, most of the population of slots players are losing too much money because they can't stop, unless they hit the jackpot already, maybe they will stop for a while and enjoy their fortune.

Gambling addiction is a very serious disease that should be treated right away before it's too late. It's sad because most of them don't want to be help, since they don't admit that they are addicted in the first place.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Jating on June 10, 2022, 12:13:32 PM
Slots machine is addicting because it's easy to play, people love it, of course you could make money on it easily if you are lucky. People love to earn big amount of money in an easy way, that's why slots is one the games that could be the key to make wealth overnight. However, most of the population of slots players are losing too much money because they can't stop, unless they hit the jackpot already, maybe they will stop for a while and enjoy their fortune.

Yes, it was design to be very easy, no need to learn, just press the button and off you go. But the bad news is that it is a luck base game, so chances are very slim and yet more people are addicted to it because of the huge windfall they can get once lady luck is on their side, and many of us are willing to take that risk.

Gambling addiction is a very serious disease that should be treated right away before it's too late. It's sad because most of them don't want to be help, since they don't admit that they are addicted in the first place.

That's the key, gambling addicts should admit it first before they can be treated. And I would agree that slots are one game that can really make a person be a addict and have a gambling problem.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: swogerino on June 10, 2022, 12:17:02 PM
I was once addicted to slots,now I play them once or twice per week as a maximum and I have already set aside the budget not being more than 500 USD monthly in total.At first I play because I want to relax from every day stress from work and life in general and I start playing with minimal bet but it is here where the slot machines can deceive you big.I was winning like 100 USD with a very short amount of time and with minimal bet and that made me believe I am going to hit it big today so I raised the bet 10x and it was immediate the losing of all the money.Slots have the ability to keep you hooked as they offer insanely huge prices like x5000 up to x30000 your total bet winnings and people hope in such winnings which come true only less than 0.00000001% most of the time.Based on this yes slots can make you addicted without you realizing it before you know it is already late now.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Welsh on June 10, 2022, 12:18:36 PM
See, I've never been one for slot machines. I don't know, I like to enjoy a game of football, knowing I've got a bet running on it too. Even with teams I wouldn't ordinarily be interested in, I find it more enjoyable. Slots, you're basically doing the same thing over, and over. Whereas, at least with sports betting there's many variables despite that, you can also tip the house edge, because there isn't any, so you're sort of more in control. Plus, slots you can spend a lot of money in a quick amount of time due to how basic it is, football games or sport games usually take at least a bit out of your day, you you aren't losing as much money as quick.

I'm still surprised though, I honestly thought sports betting would be the most addicted, what's more addicting than watching the team you support win, and win you money?


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Wexnident on June 10, 2022, 12:23:19 PM
It's not only slots really, crash, dice, and other simple but visually appealing games are the types of games gamblers are most likely to play in greater quantity, compared to say games like poker with complicated a f rules (in comparison to slots anw). It's addictive in a sense, but in the end, I wouldn't blame slots in general for it, but rather gambling in general (and the user ofc, for falling for it), cause see, even if poker was complicated people can still easily fall addicted to it, so blaming the game for all the fault is kinda wrong imo.

I still prefer poker though, or sports betting even. I just enjoy watching or seeing well, MORE than something spinning in my face for the next hour or two.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: lionheart78 on June 10, 2022, 12:39:45 PM
I'm still surprised though, I honestly thought sports betting would be the most addicted, what's more addicting than watching the team you support win, and win you money?

Same here, I actually thought that sports betting would top as the most addicting gambling game but research says it is slot.  And looking into the difference between these two, I see that slot games are available to play anytime unlike sports betting that is scheduled.  That alone may be the reason why slots beat sports betting as the most addicting gambling game in the industry.  

but in the end, I wouldn't blame slots in general for it, but rather gambling in general (and the user ofc, for falling for it), cause see, even if poker was complicated people can still easily fall addicted to it, so blaming the game for all the fault is kinda wrong imo.
No one is blaming the slots game, it is just a collective study and research on which gambling game is the most addictive. In terms of fingerpointing, it would be ourselves, that we lost our self-control, at fault for whatever addiction we had.  Gambling game is there to entertain us, it is not intended to make us addicted.



Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: ChiBitCTy on June 10, 2022, 12:48:13 PM
I think this certainly has to do with the fact that there’s more slot machines than any other types of gambling outlet out there. Here in the US there’s a slot machine of some type in nearly every type of establishment from gas stations to hotels. Plus when you’re just putting in a few bucks at a time it doesn’t seem like a lot, but of course it adds up.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Despairo on June 10, 2022, 12:51:41 PM
I'm still surprised though, I honestly thought sports betting would be the most addicted, what's more addicting than watching the team you support win, and win you money?
Same here, I actually thought that sports betting would top as the most addicting gambling game but research says it is slot.  
I guess because of how easy to play slots and how the maximum multipliers they offer for you especially you buy the bonus feature, you don't need to think anything about any strategy to play, just spin it until your hit the jackpot. But since hit the jackpot isn't easy and you have limited bankroll, this make you want to keep deposit until you got it, you're thinking if you hit it, it can recover your losses. That's why slots is most addicting game IMO.

However I'm not saying slots is bad and slots should be blamed due to cause gambling problem, but it's depends on the gambler who can control himself or not.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Saisher on June 10, 2022, 12:59:47 PM
I thought it was the crash game that is why I veered away from it because I get too excited about it and the first week I tried it I have t in my mind, I l always think of the rocket and how I got busted so many times when I have just split seconds away from tripling or even winning ten times of my bet, it's more addicted to me and I find it more exciting than any other luck-based game, I guess it depends on who is playing and how it made an impact on his betting.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Ulven on June 10, 2022, 02:13:08 PM
I am a sports betting fanatic because I mostly win and play regularly. I always bet an amount that I don't regret if I lose. As for slot machines, my experience with them was bad because I didn't make any income from them. Every time I joined them I lose the entire balance. and one day I placed a multiple bet through it. I won $1400 so I said let me try my luck on the slot machines and I lost all the winnings from that day I don't want to join it anymore because as you mentioned in your thread with the sound effects and colors you can lose control. So I avoid it so as not to get addicted to it and ruin my life.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: famososMuertos on June 10, 2022, 02:31:14 PM
...//::::

A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?
First of all thanks for the articles, any documentation that can be read it is always very helpful, then it is up to everyone to persuade their gaming habits.

P?: No. P2?: Since I answered no to the first one, that makes me sane in the second one.




Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 10, 2022, 03:04:45 PM
I think slot is not the only gambling game that can cause gambling problems but I admit that slot is one of the gambling games that many people like. But that does not mean a slot is the gambling game that causes the problem. And with so many gambling games, including crypto gambling games, that attract many people who will make the games their favorite gambling games. People like to play slots because of the easiness of playing without learning more skills or creating strategies to win because slot games will depend on their luck.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: aioc on June 10, 2022, 03:13:55 PM
I think slot is not the only gambling game that can cause gambling problems but I admit that slot is one of the gambling games that many people like. But that does not mean a slot is the gambling game that causes the problem. And with so many gambling games, including crypto gambling games, that attract many people who will make the games their favorite gambling games. People like to play slots because of the easiness of playing without learning more skills or creating strategies to win because slot games will depend on their luck.

I share the same opinion it's not only slot, although OP mentioned interface and sounds all the other luck-based games have their own sounds and interface that can easily attract and lingers on the mind of the gamblers, the simple the interface and sounds the more it lingers in the mind of the players, but I also have one casino where I play a dice game where I am attracted on the sound of dice when it's rolling, and it keeps playing in my mind, it's not only the visual but the feeling we have on these games that makes gambling addiction easily developed.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: fiulpro on June 10, 2022, 04:02:07 PM
There are slot machines which works on basically a penny so people think that these penny slots won't matter and they keep playing it again and again in a chance of winning ultimately leading up to collapse because at the end they don't realize that all these pennies made 100's of dollars, then again the probability of winning at a penny slots is much higher so they usually let it slide, but I do think that there are other games which are more addictive:
1. Crash, which such high rewards you are for sure gonna have this need to play it again and again
2. Dice, since you can change it's probability and also set the area yourself, you can try and have low loosing percentage but at the end would still end up loosing a lot and getting addicted to it.

-Dopamine is everywhere in every game or that piece of dark chocolate that you had so slots must just be an extension of it just like how other gambling games are.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: panjul07 on June 10, 2022, 04:07:51 PM
IMO gambling problem is not from the type of the game we play, but it is more about ourselves.
It does not matter what kind of the game you play, you will be addicted if you cant control yourself.
The same as when we are talking about other addictions such as alcohol and cigars, no matter what is the brand of the alcohol/cigars, you might get the same problem or make you addicted if you can deal with it wisely.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Strongkored on June 10, 2022, 04:33:05 PM
A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?
It is undeniable that slot games are always tempting, there are many types from various providers so we can always choose which one we think is very interesting. Especially when we can get a win winning image that is displayed into something that is always fun to see and also show it.
So far, I can still control it, although sometimes it's difficult, especially if there is still a balance in my gambling account or when I get a payment from the sig camp. But when a gambler becomes addicted then the problem is from the gamblers itself, not the type of game or the type of gambling that is done


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: yazher on June 10, 2022, 04:39:45 PM
Because it can be accessed easily and there are lots of slots gambling games out there. unlike any other gambling activity, this one is the most popular since it has lots of varieties and unfortunately almost everyone can play with it. This is the picture back then, we have in our village something like that where it is distributed by the gambling whale here throughout the city. If caught, they only confiscate the item, not the owner that's why it keeps getting more and more players each day. It won't stop until they remove the stem from its roots.

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Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: acroman08 on June 10, 2022, 04:56:53 PM
I don't really play slots so I can't really answer your question but this is a very informative thread. also, I guess aside from what was explained in the original post, slot machines being easy to understand and play helps to attract new gamblers.

Because it can be accessed easily and there are lots of slots gambling games out there. unlike any other gambling activity, this one is the most popular since it has lots of varieties and unfortunately almost everyone can play with it. This is the picture back then, we have in our village something like that where it is distributed by the gambling whale here throughout the city. If caught, they only confiscate the item, not the owner that's why it keeps getting more and more players each day. It won't stop until they remove the stem from its roots.
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is this Video karera? they used to be rampant in my area. it is also one of the reasons why a lot of debt-related fights happened in my area when I was still living there. fortunately, no deadly fight happened when I was still living there.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: YOSHIE on June 10, 2022, 05:12:55 PM
A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?
Of course the urge and desire to play for a long time in slot betting is definitely there, of course anyone who is involved in slot games thinks that slots have a good collection of dominance games to bet on, such as: various jackpots, gacor slots, bonuses and also have a very high RTP value, as well as the opportunity to win big, no wonder slots are one of the causes of gambling addiction in general.

Many people think that slots feel comfortable and safe in betting, on the other hand, slot games are easy and the benefits are also large, the bonus offer is also different from other games/bets, for that what you said I think it makes sense slot games that make users want to stick around in the long run.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Doell on June 10, 2022, 05:16:49 PM
A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?
Slot gambling is indeed very interesting, the dynamic design is like being hypnotized when I play this game, to be honest even now there is a feeling that pushes me to gamble on slots. It wasn't even just me, my friend who went crazy if he didn't play any slot in a day, but the solution would always be there and he went to play with a demo account. It's not a matter of money anymore but dependence when you become an addict.
How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?
Work being a basic diversion, also entertainment can diversion slots between watching PS VR game streamers or something else. Self awareness is very important and fortunately I can keep it stable, well every human being has self awareness and will appear over time, some are short or long, so back to each human will stop or ....!


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: masulum on June 10, 2022, 05:30:34 PM
IMO gambling problem is not from the type of the game we play, but it is more about ourselves.
It does not matter what kind of the game you play, you will be addicted if you cant control yourself.
The same as when we are talking about other addictions such as alcohol and cigars, no matter what is the brand of the alcohol/cigars, you might get the same problem or make you addicted if you can deal with it wisely.


Exactly, we need to controls by ourselves, but for slots we feel different things, when compared to dice or other gambling, I tend to get addicted to slots more easily. The thing that makes slots easier is because most online slots resemble traditional games that are fun but provide rewards from betting. So, when we feel a win, the desire to play becomes higher. As for dice, it will be easier to get bored because the challenges given are not the same as in slots, including the game UI to improve the gaming experience for gamblers.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Boristhecat on June 10, 2022, 05:39:14 PM
It seems to me that slots are more addictive and more dangerous, even without these studies. You can play slots in any condition and at any time of the day, while if you are a bettor, it is unlikely that you have a round-the-clock opportunity to bet on the sport where you are well versed. In addition to this, when you lose in betting, you feel a blow to your ego (your analysis was bad) and thus it somewhat cools your ardor to continue betting right away.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Sterbens on June 10, 2022, 05:39:48 PM
A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?
I would be lying if I answered "no". Almost all gamblers feel that whether intentional or not, uncontrollable moments are a normal feeling for every gambler especially in playing slots. Slots are designed to intrigue the curious to get a much larger multiple of what is shown in the title and thumbnail. Indeed that is the purpose of the casino so that you are always curious and keep putting money into it.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Fatunad on June 10, 2022, 05:46:53 PM
A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?
I would be lying if I answered "no". Almost all gamblers feel that whether intentional or not, uncontrollable moments are a normal feeling for every gambler especially in playing slots. Slots are designed to intrigue the curious to get a much larger multiple of what is shown in the title and thumbnail. Indeed that is the purpose of the casino so that you are always curious and keep putting money into it.
As a business then you would really be thinking on different ways or methods on  how they would be hooking up players even on means of those good or catchy thumbnails which
i could say that it is really that effective plus having those big multiplier kind of advertisement which you could possibly hit on playing slots then thats do really adding up the
interest and curiosity thats why we do really ending up on trying it on our own and do lose up in the end if you arent lucky enough.We know the odds and chances of winning slots
where it is really low and when your emotion burst up then this is where addiction starts to come out.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: ryzaadit on June 10, 2022, 06:32:06 PM
Winning is the problem cause gambling problems. ;D
- Winning a game.
- Make an assumption: Really easy while can win like these, then gonna gambling again
- Winning again: Raise the base bet
- After that, lose the bet.
- Deposit back to recover the lose before
- Then, you are on lose position until your money empty + debt.

I don't think, slot is problem. We all know the problem of gambling addiction started from winning the money and make you think can earn easy money with gambling.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: KTChampions on June 10, 2022, 06:36:14 PM
Slot gambling is indeed very interesting, the dynamic design is like being hypnotized when I play this game, to be honest even now there is a feeling that pushes me to gamble on slots. It wasn't even just me, my friend who went crazy if he didn't play any slot in a day, but the solution would always be there and he went to play with a demo account. It's not a matter of money anymore but dependence when you become an addict.

Rightly pointed out. I have always been surprised by this paradox - on the one hand, slots are one of the most degenerative types of gambling (you just need to press a button or even just select automatic button pressing), but on the other hand, watching the game gives some kind of relaxation and it is very easy to get used to it. Therefore, I prefer intellectual gambling like poker or betting (dice in a pinch) and avoid slots.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Quidat on June 10, 2022, 06:44:17 PM
Winning is the problem cause gambling problems. ;D
- Winning a game.
- Make an assumption: Really easy while can win like these, then gonna gambling again
- Winning again: Raise the base bet
- After that, lose the bet.
- Deposit back to recover the lose before
- Then, you are on lose position until your money empty + debt.

I don't think, slot is problem. We all know the problem of gambling addiction started from winning the money and make you think can earn easy money with gambling.
Agree on this one.

Whatever games you are dealing as long you are expecting or anticipating or being boost up with those wins then you would definitely be creating such emotion
which would pushes you to play even more.I dont know on why Slots is being that too getting attention yet there are other games which do generate the same
feeling or outcomes too.Somehow its truly understandable on why slots is much more emphasize because of the  fastness pace of the game
which emotions is something that relevant.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: fullhdpixel on June 10, 2022, 07:04:22 PM
According to research on online gambling behavior by GamblingAware,  slot gaming is more likely to cause problem gambling than sports betting
That is because slot is more like an active game while sportsbetting is a passive game because you will just bet and comeback later for the results, no wonder why slots is more fun and addicting. The potential to win huge in slot games are also much higher than in sportsbetting due to the multipliers equipped on this game.

On the poster of gambleaware it says " when the fun stops, stop" that is understandable, it means that when we lost our money we should quit and never try to redeposit again on the same day. I just thought of another saying because of that, it goes like this > "when the fun seems doesn't stop, stop" it means that when we win, we need to stop before something bad happens to us.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: bitbollo on June 10, 2022, 07:34:13 PM
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However I'm not saying slots is bad and slots should be blamed due to cause gambling problem, but it's depends on the gambler who can control himself or not.

I have seen several research that explains how "slots" are designed to force people to gamble...it's really hard have self control with this kind of games.
And probably this is true, but if you see in the long term it's really easy get hooked and have a bad addiction for this kind of games most often respect other types of games.
I play just few cent some times for pure entertainment but after a while it become really repetitive / boring and because I can't to nothing for "change" the results I stop to play after few rolls.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Renampun on June 10, 2022, 08:02:31 PM
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A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?
to be honest, i love slots the most (compared to card games and sports betting)...

The thing I like about slots is the interesting animations that are displayed (such as olympus gate, bonanza etc.), I always feel like playing and getting jackpot (because the animation is interesting). luckily I have a partner who always controls my addiction to playing slots, he always reminds me of the dependents we now have and keeps an eye on my savings :D


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Finestream on June 10, 2022, 08:19:00 PM
A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?

I would say it's very very hard specially in the beginning wherein you first taste winnings, what we call beginners luck. And then you become hook up to it and becoming your favorite even though you know the odds are really not going to be in your favor in the long run and it's based on pure luck.

I don't know how I overcome it. maybe when I don't have money to gamble was the main reason. So at least I recover my insanity although from time to time I still play slots but not like those years and as I learn to control myself, I just gamble to have some fun.
Once addiction hits you, it will be totally hard to control yourself not to gamble. Especially if you have maximum wins than loss, you will think of gambling all over. Fortunately, i was not hooked on that type of game, as i'm into another kind of gambling. But yes, its always like a casino, the house will never let you takes all the win. This is probably based on pure luck, and if you're not lucky that day, prepare yourself for a loss.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: BITCOIN4X on June 10, 2022, 08:20:50 PM
A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?
It's hard to explain how we can control ourselves not to play this game if we are really addicted. This is an easy game, involving no skill and just betting on luck. Sometimes it will be great fun, but most occasions will end in defeat.

I'm a slots player, so I know how hard it can be not to play it 2-3 in a week. This is a game full of mystery, but I'm sure there are many people who prefer to play it over other games.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Kasabus on June 10, 2022, 08:27:26 PM
I guess every games is really addicted, from slots to baccarat to dice and black jack. Every game has its own way to make people come and want to play more. Specially slots, those operators study the psychology, from the graphics to the sounds, they all put together to make it very attractive hence, addicting.

It just grown on me though, just tired of it when I go to land base or even online base casinos. Although there are a lot of new games, but it's just the same to me. And maybe I just had a lot of up and down, love and hate against slot machines that it is not the first option for me to play now.
I think majority of the gambling games are designed to make the players excited and be entertained. Otherwise, they can't attract players at all. And having these slot machines is something that will make you gamble even more. Even if you know that the odds of winning is very low, yet you still want to continue hoping that you will win in the end. Not only in slots, but in most types of games, the chances to win is always low. Except for sportsbetting as you can always win if you know the teams well.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: SirLancelot on June 10, 2022, 08:29:16 PM
This research is some worth limited to slots bases of addiction and I think that shouldn't be. It pretty much applies to every game that is gambled on, be it Casino games or spots betting. The definitive nature of it is based on individual understanding, acceptance and liking towards a particular game to gamble upon. This is exactly how you get to build an addiction especially when you feel you know the game too well already and associate your trier frequencies to a win.
Slots and many other Casino games might seem this way compared to sportsbetting due to, the timing and how many go you could go in hours over the games you are particulate about bit the same doenst go for sportsbetging and I say this without considering the virtual reality aspect of it. So yeah, it's pretty much every game in the gambling industry.
The author or the researcher of this article may be a fan of slot and is having a a sign of being addicted with it. They did not know that other people does not play slot but are addicted with other games, most especially in sportsbetting.

If you know the game the most, you will have a good time playing with it and it can make you addicted but there are some that can get addicted to a game that is still new to them because they get curious with it and they also experience a fun. It's normal to get addicted if we are exposed to the game for a long hours but for me to resist it, I just think about my other expenses. It is hard but it is working well on me.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Kelvinid on June 10, 2022, 09:01:05 PM
I guess every games is really addicted, from slots to baccarat to dice and black jack. Every game has its own way to make people come and want to play more. Specially slots, those operators study the psychology, from the graphics to the sounds, they all put together to make it very attractive hence, addicting.

It just grown on me though, just tired of it when I go to land base or even online base casinos. Although there are a lot of new games, but it's just the same to me. And maybe I just had a lot of up and down, love and hate against slot machines that it is not the first option for me to play now.
I think majority of the gambling games are designed to make the players excited and be entertained. Otherwise, they can't attract players at all. And having these slot machines is something that will make you gamble even more. Even if you know that the odds of winning is very low, yet you still want to continue hoping that you will win in the end. Not only in slots, but in most types of games, the chances to win is always low. Except for sportsbetting as you can always win if you know the teams well.
Well, it has going to understand the design of gambling. Many had become addicted to this because of a huge jackpot price attracting people to gamble like slot games and lottery. As compared to sports betting, that was different as this is suitable for sports enthusiasts but yes, the chances of winning are higher if you are always following the games. Some people gamble and put bets on their favorite team but the good thing is that never brings you to addiction, unlike how these cards and slot game does.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: boyptc on June 10, 2022, 09:26:28 PM
Most of them are addictive, it just so happen that there's a basis for the explanation as to why it's addictive.

All of those are facts but the effects of most games are just the same to all of us especially to a gambler that's too easy to be attached with the games he play.

The psychological effect of it behind gambling games is for us to get back again and have some other bets regardless of the game that we've chosen.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Vaculin on June 10, 2022, 09:38:52 PM
Every gambling game invented causes your brain to trigger the release of dopamine which, in turn, helps you get addicted to the game. You'll crave for it, your brain will always look for that pleasure you're getting regardless of the game you are playing. Slots, well, they are the easiest game you can get your hands into, and also probably the easiest to get your hopes up for. That's why the research ended up naming slots as the main culprit in this study, because of how simple and easy it is to get hooked in playing it.
This game is probably the easiest to play but certainly the fastest way to make you lose. So if you keep yourself playing on it most of the time, then you will have a lot of losses than your winnings and that's for sure. This is why gamblers should also be practical somehow, than seeing themselves gets more excited and yet late to realized that addiction has already kill their finances.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: robelneo on June 10, 2022, 09:51:32 PM
According to research on online gambling behavior by GamblingAware,  slot gaming is more likely to cause problem gambling than sports betting and is heavily skewed towards the most deprived area.[1]

A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?

I don't argue with this because its a study but have they done a comparison with dice games or other luck-based games I am playing both and I know some of my friends are also playing both and we all show the same results that both are addictive and can develop an addiction, the longer you interact or play the game the more likely that you're going to get addictive to it,
all the findings that are in the slot are also present in other luck-based games, I don't see much difference in it.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: johhnyUA on June 10, 2022, 09:59:26 PM
According to research on online gambling behavior by GamblingAware,  slot gaming is more likely to cause problem gambling than sports betting and is heavily skewed towards the most deprived area.[1]

Yep, we need more researches about obvious things. I thought is a well known truth, that more simple gambling games a far superior to more complicated in terms of addiction

A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?

This the same as with heroine: "You don't wake up one morning and decide to be a drug addict. It takes at least three months" (c) William S. Burroughs


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: serjent05 on June 10, 2022, 10:20:08 PM
A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?
Slot gambling is indeed very interesting, the dynamic design is like being hypnotized when I play this game, to be honest even now there is a feeling that pushes me to gamble on slots. It wasn't even just me, my friend who went crazy if he didn't play any slot in a day, but the solution would always be there and he went to play with a demo account. It's not a matter of money anymore but dependence when you become an addict.

This is probably because slots have the most ingredients in triggering the brain's secretion of dopamine.  From the interactive and in-control mind settings, the reward system, and visual to the audio presentation, that slowly inculcates memories in our brain.  The law of diminishing return doesn't apply here rather it heightens the excitement every time we got that slot's little to huge reward.

This research is some worth limited to slots bases of addiction and I think that shouldn't be. It pretty much applies to every game that is gambled on, be it Casino games or spots betting. The definitive nature of it is based on individual understanding, acceptance and liking towards a particular game to gamble upon. This is exactly how you get to build an addiction especially when you feel you know the game too well already and associate your trier frequencies to a win.
Slots and many other Casino games might seem this way compared to sportsbetting due to, the timing and how many go you could go in hours over the games you are particulate about bit the same doenst go for sportsbetging and I say this without considering the virtual reality aspect of it. So yeah, it's pretty much every game in the gambling industry.
The author or the researcher of this article may be a fan of slot and is having a a sign of being addicted with it. They did not know that other people does not play slot but are addicted with other games, most especially in sportsbetting.

It isn't the case that the writer is a slot fan.  It is supported by statistics if you happen to click the article. And if you read the whole post of OP.  It clearly states the factor why slots are more addicting than any other gambling game.  Whether gambling game is addictive or not is out of the question, all of them is.  Even drinking cola is addictive too but more people are addicted to smoking than drinking beverages.




Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: TopT3ns on June 10, 2022, 11:10:32 PM
I think slots are one of the gambling games because slots have random value guesses that you can't know you can win at what number and when your guess doesn't match then the money capital you use will of course disappear instantly, from the flow of this game we already know that slots it is gambling. From the observations that I experienced when playing this slot game it made my heart beat faster than doing sports gambling because all the money was at stake without me knowing what percentage of the win I got from the slot.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: uneng on June 10, 2022, 11:34:34 PM
Interactive Controls – Increasing Control

Slot machines are designed for interactive controls.  This makes us feels that we are in control of every action we make thus giving us a sense of certainty ignoring the fact that winning and losing are really uncertain.
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every time you push down on the ‘spin’ button on a physical slot machine or an online slot, you are taking control in a way that your brain views as positive. Each time you press the button, the visual whirlwind of colours and shapes in front of your eyes release Dopamine in your brain.
No matter how many times you push the button, the same thing will happen, the reels on the slot will spin. This simple yet effective feedback loop boosts feelings of control amongst players which encourages them to ignore the uncertainty of winning or losing and play on for longer.
I have the perception slots is one of the gambling games we have lowest control over the gameplay. There isn't much freedom to configure the game as you want. It's different from a dice game, where you can bet from 1 satoshi on, while playing with the odds as you wish. Slots work 100% in function of extra/bonus spins which you can buy for hundreds or thousands of dollars. Without those special spins which boost your rolls with extra multipliers, you just lose money.
In my opinion, the visual aspect is the main reason why people feel so excited and tempted to play these games, added to the huge multiplier bonus, since it looks fascinating  withall those colors, icons and brights alive on your screen.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: qwertyup23 on June 10, 2022, 11:49:58 PM
Slots is not only the existing gambling, generally both sport and casino and other types of gambling can be addicting, that is why it is good to use the amount of money you can afford to lose to gamble. The problem of gambling is when someone is using large sum of money which is beyond his capability. It is not only slots that are addictive, all other gambling means are addictive. But what makes it most addictive are people that think they can make a living, earning, profit from gambling which will not be what will happen as the person continues gambling.

I think you somehow deviated from the point that OP mentioned.

While sports gambling can be addictive, slots can be associated with more addiction due to its very simple nature and convenience on the player's end. In addition, slots are designed in order to trick the brain into winning the whole jackpot since they show figures that a player can potentially receive.

While complete data is provided (like OP mentioned) to show that the odds of winning a slot machine jackpot is so low, people still opt to choose this kind of gambling method. I hope the government creates some sort of regulation or at least provide more disclaimers about slot machines in order to avoid addiction more.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: AmoreJaz on June 10, 2022, 11:54:23 PM
Slots is not only the existing gambling, generally both sport and casino and other types of gambling can be addicting, that is why it is good to use the amount of money you can afford to lose to gamble. The problem of gambling is when someone is using large sum of money which is beyond his capability. It is not only slots that are addictive, all other gambling means are addictive. But what makes it most addictive are people that think they can make a living, earning, profit from gambling which will not be what will happen as the person continues gambling.

I think you somehow deviated from the point that OP mentioned.

While sports gambling can be addictive, slots can be associated with more addiction due to its very simple nature and convenience on the player's end. In addition, slots are designed in order to trick the brain into winning the whole jackpot since they show figures that a player can potentially receive.

While complete data is provided (like OP mentioned) to show that the odds of winning a slot machine jackpot is so low, people still opt to choose this kind of gambling method. I hope the government creates some sort of regulation or at least provide more disclaimers about slot machines in order to avoid addiction more.

i believe gamblers know their chances when it comes to slots, and yet, they still play for their own satisfaction. because they know the odds of winning in slots and that is not high by any means. a lot are getting addicted because you don't need to think while playing this game. whereas, if you are into sportsbetting, you should at least be knowledgeable of the sports you selected and you have vast info about its players. but if you play with slots, you are just basically sitting and let the game rolls as you please.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: agustina2 on June 10, 2022, 11:59:39 PM
Actually, we don't need this too much technical detailed explanation on why slots will cause more gambling problems than sports betting. Luck-based games, not just slots are purely based on luck. How can we even beat the house in the long run? That's something not possible for the majority of gamblers.

Sports betting on the other hand are manageable. We can minimize our loss here with the right analysis even if matches are not predictable.

But we have to remember that gambling is not an easy activity to do. Regardless if we do sports betting or casinos, both can bring a gambling problem.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Dave1 on June 11, 2022, 01:05:05 AM
I think slots are one of the gambling games because slots have random value guesses that you can't know you can win at what number and when your guess doesn't match then the money capital you use will of course disappear instantly, from the flow of this game we already know that slots it is gambling. From the observations that I experienced when playing this slot game it made my heart beat faster than doing sports gambling because all the money was at stake without me knowing what percentage of the win I got from the slot.

It's called luck for short. Random numbers and you don't know when it is going to hit. And that's why the odds are stack up against you when you play them. But it's so addicting that even if you know you are going to lose anyways, you are going to play it. And that's how we all fall for it, as we can't control our emotions because of the whole psychology and the effect on slots machine in our minds. Others can compare it to drugs regarding the effect on our brain.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: lionheart78 on June 11, 2022, 07:39:21 AM
Actually, we don't need this too much technical detailed explanation on why slots will cause more gambling problems than sports betting. Luck-based games, not just slots are purely based on luck. How can we even beat the house in the long run? That's something not possible for the majority of gamblers.

This is probably why you missed the point of this discussion.  The main focus of this thread is why Slots is the most addictive gambling game in the industry and the reason why we need scientific and technical analysis to back up the claim.  I am too was in doubt about that article until I dig deeper and founds the aspect and reason why slots are more likely to cause gambling problems.  This isn't about beating the house or something that has to do with that.

Sports betting on the other hand are manageable. We can minimize our loss here with the right analysis even if matches are not predictable.
It looks like you agree that slots are more addicting than Sports betting.

But we have to remember that gambling is not an easy activity to do. Regardless if we do sports betting or casinos, both can bring a gambling problem.

Gambling is easy to do as long as we have funds.  That is why it is considered a relaxation tool[1][2][3].  You can't relax if it is too hard as an activity.


[1] Why does gambling help you relax? (https://www.hardwaretimes.com/why-does-gambling-help-you-relax/)
[2] Why Playing Online Slots is a Great Way To Relax (https://www.spieltimes.com/casino/why-playing-online-slots-is-a-great-way-to-relax/)
[3] How Online Gambling Can Help To Relax Your Mind (https://trans4mind.com/counterpoint/index-gaming/online-gambling-help-relax-mind.html)


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Fortify on June 11, 2022, 08:09:31 AM
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A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?

It makes sense really because addiction is mostly the result of repeated behavior, except for cases of chemical addiction. Once you form a habit by playing a game like slots a thousand times, you start to become conditioned to want the same. As there is no element of skill involved, you're not trying to outwit or outplay an opponent so your mind simply ends up on autopilot. This is one reason to stay away from such zero skill games, besides the fact they are guaranteed money losers over the long term.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Distinctin on June 11, 2022, 08:09:41 AM
Maybe but I think people don't spend a serious amount in slots because they know that the house edge is very high.

per : https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/10/study-busts-popular-myth-that-gamblers-can-sense-differences-in-house-edge/
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The house edge for slot machines typically falls between 5% and 10%..........

So still think that biggest market which is sportsbetting has a lot of gamblers addicted to it.
People usually gets addicted when they are challenge, in slots it's not challenging because you only win by luck while in sports betting you can win by your skills.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: AakZaki on June 11, 2022, 08:53:00 AM
I don't really play slots so I can't really answer your question but this is a very informative thread. also, I guess aside from what was explained in the original post, slot machines being easy to understand and play helps to attract new gamblers.
Nowadays the slot is growing very rapidly, even many agents send me offers to join. They sent Watshap messages with beautiful profile pictures, out of nowhere they have my number. At the moment I'm honestly not interested in slots. It seems like slots are very easy and only require luck to win. But I also heard a lot of slot players are willing to have a lot of debts to the point of not being able to return them. In the end they chose to commit suicide. It looks like playing slots is already on the program from there for the win.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: RealMalatesta on June 11, 2022, 08:55:23 AM
I think slot is not the only gambling game that can cause gambling problems but I admit that slot is one of the gambling games that many people like. But that does not mean a slot is the gambling game that causes the problem. And with so many gambling games, including crypto gambling games, that attract many people who will make the games their favorite gambling games. People like to play slots because of the easiness of playing without learning more skills or creating strategies to win because slot games will depend on their luck.
I believe that the trouble and the difference is that you get to gamble with slot non-stop if you want to and many people and that is the issue. I have to admit that I was one of those people, I gambled slots a lot at one point, not gambling there so much anymore but that was a type of game that would get my attention a lot.

Even in our phones, we have slot "games" where you gamble and win something but you could literally buy chips there, which is saying you can lose real money but can't make any real profit at all. This is why I believe that we shouldn't really focus on this at all, it wouldn't be fair. So slots could be a bit more riskier in that sense.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Reatim on June 11, 2022, 09:14:49 AM
According to research on online gambling behavior by GamblingAware,  slot gaming is more likely to cause problem gambling than sports betting and is heavily skewed towards the most deprived area.[1]
That is because Poor people are mostly to be wanted to gamble for easy money , this is the main objective and yes they are successful on that matter and now ? it is the time for the government to look unto this because there are so many cases happening to the people now that instead of gaining? they are continuously losing and yes , their life is becoming more miserable because of Slot machines and other form of gambling .


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: _act_ on June 11, 2022, 09:18:21 AM
I think you somehow deviated from the point that OP mentioned.

While sports gambling can be addictive, slots can be associated with more addiction due to its very simple nature and convenience on the player's end. In addition, slots are designed in order to trick the brain into winning the whole jackpot since they show figures that a player can potentially receive.

While complete data is provided (like OP mentioned) to show that the odds of winning a slot machine jackpot is so low, people still opt to choose this kind of gambling method. I hope the government creates some sort of regulation or at least provide more disclaimers about slot machines in order to avoid addiction more.
Not deviating from what OP post is what is more important, this should be more about what is practical. As far as I know, people are addicted in gambling in general, be it any gambling type they choose. In the environment that I live, most addictions are from sport because people in my area like betting on sport most and very well, especially football. You like it or not, if someone do not discipline himself or herself, the person will likely be addicted to any gambling type, I do not know why only empathizing on slot when in real life, all other types can be addictive.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: lionheart78 on June 11, 2022, 09:19:47 AM
Maybe but I think people don't spend a serious amount in slots because they know that the house edge is very high.

per : https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/10/study-busts-popular-myth-that-gamblers-can-sense-differences-in-house-edge/
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The house edge for slot machines typically falls between 5% and 10%..........

It looks like the article you linked clearly contradicts your statement.

So still think that biggest market which is sportsbetting has a lot of gamblers addicted to it.


We have the right to our opinion but statistics can't be denied. Can we have the statistic link for this?

People usually gets addicted when they are challenge, in slots it's not challenging because you only win by luck while in sports betting you can win by your skills.

This reply clearly contradicts your statement.  

It makes sense really because addiction is mostly the result of repeated behavior, except for cases of chemical addiction. Once you form a habit by playing a game like slots a thousand times, you start to become conditioned to want the same. As there is no element of skill involved, you're not trying to outwit or outplay an opponent so your mind simply ends up on autopilot. This is one reason to stay away from such zero skill games, besides the fact they are guaranteed money losers over the long term.

I can say both sports betting and slots are addictive but according to the given articles, slots produce more addicted players.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Peanutswar on June 11, 2022, 09:26:15 AM
We know that slot games is one of the most known in the gambling because of the images, patterns and prizes of it shows because slot is like lottery that base in the luck but today we have the slot have a higher RTP that's why the player really like to play more because of the odds. Now it depends on the player how they will focus with it because this is not the only gambling games mostly of them because of the jackpot price.
Always manage your risk and if you think your luck is not in the slot try other more games.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: BitcoinPanther on June 11, 2022, 09:45:28 AM
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A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?

If you say losing $10k in slots while my reasoning is fully aware that I shouldn't do that during the game session is considered uncontrollable urge then I can say yes to the first question.  I have that money reserved for something  else, but busted them all in a slot games.  I still regretted it until now coz life would have been a bit easier if I had put it where it should be.  I am glad it is all ok at my end now since I am able to recover that $10k from other means(job, investment, trading) though it took me more than a year to recover that fund.
I considered myself lucky because I am able to wake up from the hypnotic attraction of slots.  Maybe the lack of fund partially helped too since I have to stop before I made anymore mistake.  Staying away or giving myself a break is one of the method I use to keep myself sane.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: YuginKadoya on June 11, 2022, 10:00:59 AM

So still think that biggest market which is sportsbetting has a lot of gamblers addicted to it.
People usually gets addicted when they are challenge, in slots it's not challenging because you only win by luck while in sports betting you can win by your skills.

The Challenge to winning is not the same as the desire in winning, you are challenged not because you are addicted you are challenged in pursuing things you like and the game will be challenging if you are using skills to certain games, but the desire in winning I thing that is certainly near from being addicted, Slot games doesn't require skills but only luck, there is no challenge in that game because you are not using your skill, while Sportsbet may need some skills, and analysis in certain teams and the game it self it will give you the edge in winning while Casino gambling like slot, will just be base on pure luck,


Nowadays the slot is growing very rapidly, even many agents send me offers to join. They sent Watshap messages with beautiful profile pictures, out of nowhere they have my number. At the moment I'm honestly not interested in slots. It seems like slots are very easy and only require luck to win. But I also heard a lot of slot players are willing to have a lot of debts to the point of not being able to return them. In the end they chose to commit suicide. It looks like playing slots is already on the program from there for the win.

Totally that was for the extreme, and if a gambler ends up like that he or she might be addicted to it, In my opinion, it is easy to play slot, but it is very hard in winning it, what I am saying is it is pretty much easy to play slot because you just pull the levers and let your luck do its thing, it has the easy method in playing it, but the catch is it is very hard to win or your win will be random and will purely base on luck alone,

And getting debt in any form of gambling is dangerous and could lead to frustration, or loaning to gamble is surely what I recommended, but desperate people always do it, out of desperation they will loan a sum of money and play gamble with it, people might already be addicted to it,


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: blockman on June 11, 2022, 10:12:25 AM
That is because Poor people are mostly to be wanted to gamble for easy money
Everyone wants to earn easy money but in terms of this reason, gamblers are not choosing any status in life. But it's not really a hidden secret that the higher percentage from the poverty line is into gambling because that's what they think is the way to earn easily and get out of poverty.

this is the main objective and yes they are successful on that matter and now ? it is the time for the government to look unto this because there are so many cases happening to the people now that instead of gaining? they are continuously losing and yes , their life is becoming more miserable because of Slot machines and other form of gambling .
Most countries are okay and have a go signal for gambling and that's why it's legal to operate as long as the casinos are registered and has a permit to operate. And what the casino and the government has to do is to remind everyone to gamble moderately.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Rufsilf on June 11, 2022, 10:31:25 AM
That is because Poor people are mostly to be wanted to gamble for easy money
Everyone wants to earn easy money but in terms of this reason, gamblers are not choosing any status in life. But it's not really a hidden secret that the higher percentage from the poverty line is into gambling because that's what they think is the way to earn easily and get out of poverty.

It was too unfortunate that many poor people wish to have luck in gambling. And instead of keeping that money to feed their families, they gamble it and lose.

For me, slot and any form of gambling is not a problem and will not cause any harm, what makes this becomes a problem is the mindset of the people. They rely on luck to improve their lives instead of working hard. They really think that easy money really exists in the real world.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: bitzizzix on June 11, 2022, 11:19:58 AM
That is because Poor people are mostly to be wanted to gamble for easy money
Everyone wants to earn easy money but in terms of this reason, gamblers are not choosing any status in life. But it's not really a hidden secret that the higher percentage from the poverty line is into gambling because that's what they think is the way to earn easily and get out of poverty.

It was too unfortunate that many poor people wish to have luck in gambling. And instead of keeping that money to feed their families, they gamble it and lose.

For me, slot and any form of gambling is not a problem and will not cause any harm, what makes this becomes a problem is the mindset of the people. They rely on luck to improve their lives instead of working hard. They really think that easy money really exists in the real world.
Because they want to realize false hopes, only to get rich who only rely on luck, and that's how they play slots or online gambling, slot gambling is very easy to play even by poor people as well as children and minors.
but actually they didn't realize how much they won, it wouldn't be greater than their loss due to defeat.
Slot gambling is very popular including in the country where I live and where I am there are definitely slots that people play and that look like poor people.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: ipanks on June 11, 2022, 11:50:23 AM
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That's because they see examples of their friends who play gambling and can win some money through gambling. Maybe if they change their mindset and don't risk losing money through gambling, they can still save the money for tomorrow. They also do not try to gamble and will stay away from it. Playing slots and other gambling games is okay as long as we can control ourselves so we don't get addicted.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: blockman on June 11, 2022, 12:32:56 PM
That is because Poor people are mostly to be wanted to gamble for easy money
Everyone wants to earn easy money but in terms of this reason, gamblers are not choosing any status in life. But it's not really a hidden secret that the higher percentage from the poverty line is into gambling because that's what they think is the way to earn easily and get out of poverty.

It was too unfortunate that many poor people wish to have luck in gambling. And instead of keeping that money to feed their families, they gamble it and lose.

For me, slot and any form of gambling is not a problem and will not cause any harm, what makes this becomes a problem is the mindset of the people. They rely on luck to improve their lives instead of working hard. They really think that easy money really exists in the real world.
It's a mindset that's hard to change and we understand why they're thinking like that. It's due to the poverty that they've been experiencing. Everyone wants to get out of it so quick so they take risk through gambling but I hope that many of them have a long term vision of themselves working in a better place and as well as having a business and when they reach that success, they'll lie low on gambling to focus on the things that they're working for to get out of it and remove that easy money mindset.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Cling18 on June 11, 2022, 12:44:38 PM
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That's because they see examples of their friends who play gambling and can win some money through gambling. Maybe if they change their mindset and don't risk losing money through gambling, they can still save the money for tomorrow. They also do not try to gamble and will stay away from it. Playing slots and other gambling games is okay as long as we can control ourselves so we don't get addicted.

As for me, it isn't the game that has a problem, it's the gamblers who can't control themselves from playing too much without noticing its negative effects on them physically and mentally. Slots will never be a problem as long as a gambler enjoys them positively and knows how to control themselves from greed and overplaying.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: goinmerry on June 11, 2022, 01:38:32 PM
A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?

I think there's no need to ask the slots players if they ever felt they can't control themselves playing at slots as the answer is obvious. Although the second question is more appropriate to ask since ways of managing to become responsible vary with each player.

For me, I don't consider slot as the most addictive gambling game in the industry. Is there any research done for that?

I do play slots before but it not really catches my attention as I'm more of doing sports betting. After all, we all have our own preferences.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Slow death on June 11, 2022, 02:04:08 PM
from my observation (I'm not saying the research guys are wrong or not) I see that sports betting and card games (poker and other card games) are the games that people get addicted to, in the case of sports betting I have seen the guys who like tennis and basketball as the biggest addicts, then we have the guys who bet on soccer, I'm not basing it on any research, this is something I've observed. Slot games get people addicted to the real world, they are like lottery that rely on luck, and tend to create more stress on people playing, also this is something I've observed, I'm not basing it on any research


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on June 11, 2022, 02:36:44 PM
It looks like a pretty detailed study but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen such a detailed study that gets it wrong. And I don't know if they are focusing on the right thing, because what is clear is that instant betting is what people are hooked on much more than it was 30 years ago. Nowadays you can bet on practically anything, at any time of the day from your mobile phone, that's what gets people hooked. Not like 30 years ago when you had to physically go to a place to bet.



Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: jrrsparkles on June 11, 2022, 02:38:51 PM
Music is addictive, watching porn is addictive and everything can be addictive in someway for someone sonwe can't simply generalize the things and target particular game. Personally when I okay slots I just keel on going but I have seen people eho drown in the sport betting as well so it really depends on what kind of game they love.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: wheelz1200 on June 11, 2022, 02:44:51 PM
Slots are probably the worst type of gaming you can do. Terrible odds and is way too quick.  A lot of bets take a while to play out where as ots takes all of about 10 seconds to win/lose.  It's also very personal, on a group table you make different decisions than if you just play alone at a slot.  Worst part is the "possibility" of hitting the big one like a lottery.  Instant change in life effects people negatively in tes of Ampang up their addiction.  Terrible game.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: serjent05 on June 11, 2022, 05:06:31 PM
That is because Poor people are mostly to be wanted to gamble for easy money
Everyone wants to earn easy money but in terms of this reason, gamblers are not choosing any status in life. But it's not really a hidden secret that the higher percentage from the poverty line is into gambling because that's what they think is the way to earn easily and get out of poverty.

It was too unfortunate that many poor people wish to have luck in gambling. And instead of keeping that money to feed their families, they gamble it and lose.

For me, slot and any form of gambling is not a problem and will not cause any harm, what makes this becomes a problem is the mindset of the people. They rely on luck to improve their lives instead of working hard. They really think that easy money really exists in the real world.

These poor people bet instead of saving the money is due to the mindset that what more they can lose since they are already broke but if they win, it may be a life-changer for them.  I don't favor that mindset but that's the reality. 

Taken as an example, I play dice for a purpose of hitting the jackpot.  I spend around $6 worth of BTC every session, that is 0.0003 or 30k satoshi BTC @ $20k per BTC back then.  I bet with 100 sats just to qualify for the Jackpot, left it on auto bet while doing sig campaign posts. When I  came back to check the dice page,  I found out that I hit the jackpot worth 0.9xx BTC. For me, $6  won't get me poor but the jackpot of $18k+ can give me a decent life for years considering where I live.


It looks like a pretty detailed study but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen such a detailed study that gets it wrong. And I don't know if they are focusing on the right thing, because what is clear is that instant betting is what people are hooked on much more than it was 30 years ago. Nowadays you can bet on practically anything, at any time of the day from your mobile phone, that's what gets people hooked. Not like 30 years ago when you had to physically go to a place to bet.

The more reason slots will more likely to cause addiction, because, you can access it anytime, anywhere, without the restriction of scheduled gameplay unlike sports betting.

Music is addictive, watching porn is addictive and everything can be addictive in someway for someone sonwe can't simply generalize the things and target particular game. Personally when I okay slots I just keel on going but I have seen people eho drown in the sport betting as well so it really depends on what kind of game they love.


True that, we have our own preference, while you probably are drown to sports betting but I am more interested in a slots game, even I favor dice than sports betting probably because I hate scheduled game  ;D, I play when I wanted to play and that's it.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Gianluca95 on June 11, 2022, 05:10:59 PM
As you said slots is really a bad way to gamble.

Why? Because slots creates to the human brain the same sensation as when a human being assumes Cocaine.

There are other way to gamble, like dice, play cards, sportsbook ecc. try to avoid in every way the use of Slot.



Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Falconer on June 11, 2022, 05:20:43 PM
As you said slots is really a bad way to gamble.

Why? Because slots creates to the human brain the same sensation as when a human being assumes Cocaine.

There are other way to gamble, like dice, play cards, sportsbook ecc. try to avoid in every way the use of Slot.
Good or bad game depends on how a gambler does it. I think slots are still a good game in any casino and it seems like a mandatory game for casinos because the appeal is quite high. I'm not assuming that slots are a bad game just because gamblers are more likely to get addicted, it's a risk to anyone and of course only the gambler should be held responsible for whatever he suffers.

There are a few things to note if you don't want to get addicted to certain games, you have to have control and not be greedy. If one does not want to be addicted and fear to addicted then never gamble, it is the best option for them.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Gianluca95 on June 11, 2022, 05:26:07 PM
As you said slots is really a bad way to gamble.

Why? Because slots creates to the human brain the same sensation as when a human being assumes Cocaine.

There are other way to gamble, like dice, play cards, sportsbook ecc. try to avoid in every way the use of Slot.
Good or bad game depends on how a gambler does it. I think slots are still a good game in any casino and it seems like a mandatory game for casinos because the appeal is quite high. I'm not assuming that slots are a bad game just because gamblers are more likely to get addicted, it's a risk to anyone and of course only the gambler should be held responsible for whatever he suffers.

There are a few things to note if you don't want to get addicted to certain games, you have to have control and not be greedy. If one does not want to be addicted and fear to addicted then never gamble, it is the best option for them.

Oh yes sir, what that you say is true, but you should also note that to be this you should play responsible. If you become addicted from this games, you'll not have any type of control, really hard to have that when you're

addicted, so, just stay away from this kind of game especially if you are a subject that could be "addicted" in future.



Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: KTChampions on June 11, 2022, 05:50:39 PM
I have the perception slots is one of the gambling games we have lowest control over the gameplay. There isn't much freedom to configure the game as you want. It's different from a dice game, where you can bet from 1 satoshi on, while playing with the odds as you wish. Slots work 100% in function of extra/bonus spins which you can buy for hundreds or thousands of dollars. Without those special spins which boost your rolls with extra multipliers, you just lose money.
In my opinion, the visual aspect is the main reason why people feel so excited and tempted to play these games, added to the huge multiplier bonus, since it looks fascinating  withall those colors, icons and brights alive on your screen.

I think that the main element of attraction and the appearance of the desire to spin again is that visually the player gets a picture where he sees that if he got a slightly different symbol (or a couple of symbols), he would win a lot of money. This creates the illusion that a win is near and forces him to keep playing. Although in fact he was not even close to winning and his further attempts have the same low probability as the first ones.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Fatunad on June 11, 2022, 05:57:09 PM
I have the perception slots is one of the gambling games we have lowest control over the gameplay. There isn't much freedom to configure the game as you want. It's different from a dice game, where you can bet from 1 satoshi on, while playing with the odds as you wish. Slots work 100% in function of extra/bonus spins which you can buy for hundreds or thousands of dollars. Without those special spins which boost your rolls with extra multipliers, you just lose money.
In my opinion, the visual aspect is the main reason why people feel so excited and tempted to play these games, added to the huge multiplier bonus, since it looks fascinating  withall those colors, icons and brights alive on your screen.

I think that the main element of attraction and the appearance of the desire to spin again is that visually the player gets a picture where he sees that if he got a slightly different symbol (or a couple of symbols), he would win a lot of money. This creates the illusion that a win is near and forces him to keep playing. Although in fact he was not even close to winning and his further attempts have the same low probability as the first ones.
So those near winning patterns are the triggers? Possible but wont really be that precise because emotion and mindset will surely mix up which would go along with those patterns which would really in result
on having those impulsive reaction and perception towards slots gaming.I cant really deny that it could really give out that boost of emotion even just on simply spinning.
Gambling problem is something that wont precisely be blamed off on a single game in the market but rather in overall i should say.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Sterbens on June 11, 2022, 06:34:00 PM
As a business then you would really be thinking on different ways or methods on  how they would be hooking up players even on means of those good or catchy thumbnails which
i could say that it is really that effective plus having those big multiplier kind of advertisement which you could possibly hit on playing slots then thats do really adding up the
interest and curiosity thats why we do really ending up on trying it on our own and do lose up in the end if you arent lucky enough.We know the odds and chances of winning slots
where it is really low and when your emotion burst up then this is where addiction starts to come out.
Even now, I still see people closest to me who started gambling complain for the umpteenth time. Spend their money just being lulled by thumbnails and also messages coming in from casino promoters. Marketing techniques that are very addictive, they are difficult to avoid when slot gambling gives curiosity as well as addiction. Self-control especially for beginners who fall into slot games has really become a rife phenomenon in the surrounding environment.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: panjul07 on June 11, 2022, 08:24:21 PM
As you said slots is really a bad way to gamble.

Why? Because slots creates to the human brain the same sensation as when a human being assumes Cocaine.

There are other way to gamble, like dice, play cards, sportsbook ecc. try to avoid in every way the use of Slot.

I'm quite sure you are experienced user in this gambling board as you managed some gambling campaign in the past, but this post make me confuse as you talk like you are a newbie.
The sensation is not created by the game, but the gamblers themselves who create the sensation in their brain.
If the other games like dice, cards, sportsbook, does not create the sensation as you are talking about, then why there are so many people also being addicted to these type of game?


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Viscore on June 11, 2022, 11:30:04 PM
A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?


 First and foremost, not all the players in the slot machines are addicted unto it. Although in this topic you posted was too informative and helpful as well to everyone who are always in the gambling site. In fact, through this discussion you feed me about this things regarding  the cause of gambling problem. Now back to this question you asked, my answer is yes! I really felt uncontrollable, and I don't want to elaborate that's my experienced during the time I was addicted to slot machine I can't deny that things.
It’s not surprising that a lot of gamblers fall into slot machines addiction as they can be enticing and very exciting to play. Even myself I can attest to that. However, if you have discipline and set limit on your gambling activities, even to your losses, I can say that we can fight that addiction. Slot machines are only good and profitable at the start, along with some beginner’s luck but I won’t advise it for long term activity as it could create more losses on your wallet than seeing your gains.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: ipanks on June 12, 2022, 02:41:45 AM
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That's true because the game is just a game while the gamblers are various and many of them can't control themselves when they play. Many are affected by the negative effects of gambling because they lose control of themselves and do not know how to control it. Slots are just like other gambling games, which are fun to play but we must completely control ourselves. Otherwise, we will lose a lot of money and in the end, we will get addicted to gambling.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: South Park on June 12, 2022, 03:47:31 AM
I have the perception slots is one of the gambling games we have lowest control over the gameplay. There isn't much freedom to configure the game as you want. It's different from a dice game, where you can bet from 1 satoshi on, while playing with the odds as you wish. Slots work 100% in function of extra/bonus spins which you can buy for hundreds or thousands of dollars. Without those special spins which boost your rolls with extra multipliers, you just lose money.
In my opinion, the visual aspect is the main reason why people feel so excited and tempted to play these games, added to the huge multiplier bonus, since it looks fascinating  withall those colors, icons and brights alive on your screen.

I think that the main element of attraction and the appearance of the desire to spin again is that visually the player gets a picture where he sees that if he got a slightly different symbol (or a couple of symbols), he would win a lot of money. This creates the illusion that a win is near and forces him to keep playing. Although in fact he was not even close to winning and his further attempts have the same low probability as the first ones.
Without a doubt slots is a gambling game which has been very carefully designed to cater to the needs of gamblers and as such there is a higher chance to get addicted to it than in other games, after all unlike poker or blackjack which require a great deal of knowledge in order to play correctly slots is a game so simple that anyone can play it, as you only need to deposit some money and pull a lever, which is one of the reasons why slots occupy most of the physical space of a casino, so they are incredibly popular due to their simplicity.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: lienfaye on June 12, 2022, 03:56:48 AM
As you said slots is really a bad way to gamble.

Why? Because slots creates to the human brain the same sensation as when a human being assumes Cocaine.
I enjoy playing slots before. But I chose to switch playing to other games. I find it hard to win in slots and sometimes I tend to exceeds to my budget for wanting to hit a high multiplier and somehow get back what I lost.

There are other way to gamble, like dice, play cards, sportsbook ecc. try to avoid in every way the use of Slot.
Well, I think it depends for every gamblers. Because any gambling games if you dont have control can be addicting. I know some gamblers who like to play slots but not becoming addicted, hence it depends.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Bitinity on June 12, 2022, 06:48:20 AM
There are other way to gamble, like dice, play cards, sportsbook ecc. try to avoid in every way the use of Slot.
Well, I think it depends for every gamblers. Because any gambling games if you dont have control can be addicting. I know some gamblers who like to play slots but not becoming addicted, hence it depends.

Absolutely correct, it depends on the gamblers. Slot is one of my favorite gambling games, I played for few years but am I addicted? I'm not, I can prove myself that I can stop it although I have not stopped it 100% but I have reduced my gambling session a lot than before. If I have to say I was 100% slot gamblers, but now maybe I'm 20% only. It is a real proof from my own experience that the game is not main factor of the addiction.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: iv4n on June 12, 2022, 07:48:16 AM
Well, slots are crazy! A huge collection of different slots, in-slot features... they can give a lot, they can take even more! I like to play slots and I play them when I can and when I have money for that! The thing is that slot can eat the balance in minutes if we don't get lucky with bonus rounds! Unlike betting on sports where we need to wait for games we wish to bet on, slots are available 24/7! As I said, there are so many slots, so I like trying them, trying to hit bonus rounds with some higher bet, we always hope for some big or max win... so I guess that is the part why slots are more likely to cause gambling problem!

And playing slots is not cheap! For most providers and for most popular slots minimum bet is $0.1, and many of them have even higher minimum bet! That affects people to spend a lot of money on slots... I guess $500 is nothing if you play with $1 bets and higher! Definitely, slots are not for people who don't have some control!


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Poker Player on June 12, 2022, 08:46:09 AM
The more reason slots will more likely to cause addiction, because, you can access it anytime, anywhere, without the restriction of scheduled gameplay unlike sports betting.

Yes, well, that's true compared to sports betting but nowadays you can play roulette or say 24/7. The physical slots have some sounds that are made to hook people, and in online they are similar but the other online casino games also emit that kind of sounds. They are sounds that enhance the excitement of gambling and it is the emotions that hook people. So it is clear that slots are more addictive than some types of betting such as sports betting but compared to other casino games I am not so sure.

I remember years ago seeing a person spend all his paycheck on slots, who knows  to how many people this will happen today playing online.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Apocollapse on June 12, 2022, 08:49:22 AM
Unlike betting on sports where we need to wait for games we wish to bet on, slots are available 24/7!
Though slot are available for 24/7, but you aren't allowed to play 24/7 without any break, because AFAIK some casinos accuse the account using a robot or any kind software since they think it's not a human.

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And playing slots is not cheap! For most providers and for most popular slots minimum bet is $0.1, and many of them have even higher minimum bet! That affects people to spend a lot of money on slots... I guess $500 is nothing if you play with $1 bets and higher! Definitely, slots are not for people who don't have some control!
Yeah, 500 spins are still not enough because the chance to hit the high multipliers are low except you're really lucky. Usually I play using $100-$200 with $0.1 per bet, so I spins 1000-2000 that's enough for me.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Kakmakr on June 12, 2022, 09:13:53 AM
The thing that gets most people are the small rewards that Slots give people during their playing session. They think that Slots will pay a big Jackpot, if they keep on playing for long enough, but for most people that never happens.

They also see "Paid" Streamers playing a Slot until it pays a big amount and they think that they can do the same thing. Those "Paid" Streamers can do that, because they use a casinos money to do it.... so you cannot emulate that, because you do not have that amount of money.

                                                                "Responsible gamblers know when to stop"
 


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: serjent05 on June 12, 2022, 10:30:41 AM

The sensation is not created by the game, but the gamblers themselves who create the sensation in their brain.

Before the creation of sensation, there are what we called triggers.  These triggers are the ones responsible for the brain's creation of dopamine which is responsible for allowing us to feel pleasure, satisfaction, and motivation.  Without these triggers, the human brain will not produce dopamine and there will be no sensations whatsoever.

So what are these triggers?  One of these is playing gambling games.  For this example, we will use slots.  Then we can refer to the OP specifically the topic on Dopamine – The Brains Reward System[1] for the explanation.


Unlike betting on sports where we need to wait for games we wish to bet on, slots are available 24/7!
Though slot are available for 24/7, but you aren't allowed to play 24/7 without any break, because AFAIK some casinos accuse the account using a robot or any kind software since they think it's not a human.

The casino has some tools to verify if the player is a bot or not. They will check it through the verification process from time to time if they suspect that a bot is playing instead of a person.


[1] Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5402047.0)


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Jemzx00 on June 12, 2022, 01:16:47 PM
The thing that gets most people are the small rewards that Slots give people during their playing session. They think that Slots will pay a big Jackpot, if they keep on playing for long enough, but for most people that never happens.

They also see "Paid" Streamers playing a Slot until it pays a big amount and they think that they can do the same thing. Those "Paid" Streamers can do that, because they use a casinos money to do it.... so you cannot emulate that, because you do not have that amount of money.

                                                                "Responsible gamblers know when to stop"
 
Only a few number of people could be called as responsible gamblers as most of us are easily get hook to winning especially with slots and other simple gambling games like dice.The emotions we feel when gambling and the thrill of winning keep us on betting.
Those bets you've mentioned that are made by streamers are probably for advertising and yes, the bets they're doing are paid by the casino.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: molsewid on June 12, 2022, 01:38:10 PM
The thing that gets most people are the small rewards that Slots give people during their playing session. They think that Slots will pay a big Jackpot, if they keep on playing for long enough, but for most people that never happens.

They also see "Paid" Streamers playing a Slot until it pays a big amount and they think that they can do the same thing. Those "Paid" Streamers can do that, because they use a casinos money to do it.... so you cannot emulate that, because you do not have that amount of money.

                                                                "Responsible gamblers know when to stop"
 

And responsible gamblers knows how to manage their emotions as well. When it comes to trading and gambling there's no big difference at all, people would likely to spend more if a well-known or an influencer promotes a certain website. But any form of gambling game can be addictive , we need to learn how to manage this emotion so that it could not make harm to us, sometimes this neurotransmitter make us to bet more for us to feel more alive and bet more to make us feel happy.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: KTChampions on June 12, 2022, 05:46:46 PM
I think that the main element of attraction and the appearance of the desire to spin again is that visually the player gets a picture where he sees that if he got a slightly different symbol (or a couple of symbols), he would win a lot of money. This creates the illusion that a win is near and forces him to keep playing. Although in fact he was not even close to winning and his further attempts have the same low probability as the first ones.
So those near winning patterns are the triggers? Possible but wont really be that precise because emotion and mindset will surely mix up which would go along with those patterns which would really in result
on having those impulsive reaction and perception towards slots gaming.I cant really deny that it could really give out that boost of emotion even just on simply spinning.
Gambling problem is something that wont precisely be blamed off on a single game in the market but rather in overall i should say.

I think yes. As for colorful pictures and music, in fact, after the 100th spin (and for some even earlier), they only cause irritation. For example, I turn off the music immediately. Naturally, the attraction pattern does not work in one game. All games are made in such a way as to create the impression that the win is close. This is how the entire industry works.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Fatunad on June 12, 2022, 07:59:40 PM
As a business then you would really be thinking on different ways or methods on  how they would be hooking up players even on means of those good or catchy thumbnails which
i could say that it is really that effective plus having those big multiplier kind of advertisement which you could possibly hit on playing slots then thats do really adding up the
interest and curiosity thats why we do really ending up on trying it on our own and do lose up in the end if you arent lucky enough.We know the odds and chances of winning slots
where it is really low and when your emotion burst up then this is where addiction starts to come out.
Even now, I still see people closest to me who started gambling complain for the umpteenth time. Spend their money just being lulled by thumbnails and also messages coming in from casino promoters. Marketing techniques that are very addictive, they are difficult to avoid when slot gambling gives curiosity as well as addiction. Self-control especially for beginners who fall into slot games has really become a rife phenomenon in the surrounding environment.
Expect about those ads and other marketing aspects which you might able to encounter.On having that accessibility that we do have today then its likely you would really be getting exposed
into these things which it isnt really that surprising that you would really be making yourself to get involved if you arent really that good enough on your emotion and self discipline on dealing with something.
Addiction in gambling wont matter on what kind of games you are dealing with whether on dice/slots/roulletes or sports betting because addiction do share up with the same form
and those anticipations and hopes are just the same.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: seleme on June 12, 2022, 08:35:32 PM
Any form of gambling can be addictive and gambler is the person who should be in charge go control such urges to chase losses or deposit too much. Slots have higher house edge, so it is logical to say higher house edge games will go dry longer than original house games standing 1% house edge. Especially some promotions require catching 100x+ on particular slots but I have personally spun over 4k spins without 100x bonus round on base game hit on slot.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Sirait on June 12, 2022, 08:38:42 PM
Music is addictive, watching porn is addictive and everything can be addictive in someway for someone sonwe can't simply generalize the things and target particular game. Personally when I okay slots I just keel on going but I have seen people eho drown in the sport betting as well so it really depends on what kind of game they love.
Addiction to something happens because the sufferer feels comfortable, full of satisfaction (dopamine effect) when doing that. slots feature amazing animations and also great prizes easily if the player is lucky. I don't like slots but for lottery and soccer betting, I really love and feel addicted ;D


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Oshosondy on June 13, 2022, 07:38:06 AM
And responsible gamblers knows how to manage their emotions as well. When it comes to trading and gambling there's no big difference at all, people would likely to spend more if a well-known or an influencer promotes a certain website. But any form of gambling game can be addictive , we need to learn how to manage this emotion so that it could not make harm to us, sometimes this neurotransmitter make us to bet more for us to feel more alive and bet more to make us feel happy.
When I gambled responsibly, I saw no emotions involved, when I was gambling irresponsible before, emotions and losses were involved. Let me say I have $500 as my weekly salary (though not that amount as I collect lesser than that), I take 1% which is $5 to gamble, until the following week, how can I have emotion about losing $5 from $500, it is not possible. No emotion involved in responsible gambling in my opinion.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: bittraffic on June 13, 2022, 07:46:49 AM

Especially for the women. Not to judge all women but its just that I have already heard form Joe Rogan interview about women got addicted to gambling and most of the time they started with slot machine, just drinking their coffee beside it while playing slot machine. And then eventually just keep doing it every night til they upgrade to cards.

Music is addictive, watching porn is addictive and everything can be addictive in someway for someone sonwe can't simply generalize the things and target particular game. Personally when I okay slots I just keel on going but I have seen people eho drown in the sport betting as well so it really depends on what kind of game they love.
Addiction to something happens because the sufferer feels comfortable, full of satisfaction (dopamine effect) when doing that. slots feature amazing animations and also great prizes easily if the player is lucky. I don't like slots but for lottery and soccer betting, I really love and feel addicted ;D

Easy to win with slot machines, not sure why is it that every person will wins during their first play with slot machine.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: yazher on June 13, 2022, 01:27:02 PM
Addiction to something happens because the sufferer feels comfortable, full of satisfaction (dopamine effect) when doing that. slots feature amazing animations and also great prizes easily if the player is lucky. I don't like slots but for lottery and soccer betting, I really love and feel addicted ;D

Just because it's easy to do doesn't mean you need to play it every day and that's what most people became after they suffered such addiction from playing slot machines. some of them are buried in debt because of these small matters that they could have avoided if they remained patient about their life. Slots are addictive because the environment where they put them has lots of people enjoying what they are doing at the moment but in reality, most of them are soon to suffer some serious depression when they lose everything they have in this tricky game.
 


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Slow death on June 13, 2022, 01:44:19 PM
talking about slot games, these days ago I went to the market in my neighborhood and entered a slot machine, I asked the owner of the machine: " aren't you afraid of the government asking you and giving you a fine and taking that machine away from you?" and he said: " I'm not afraid, they don't show up here ". then I left but I couldn't get the image that was in my head of last month when the government of my country started to collect all the slot machines that were illegally on the street, curious about all this and that doesn't get out of my head and that when the government of my country started to collect the illegal slot machines that were on the streets, when they opened the machines they found a lot of money, but the machines were located in very poor neighborhoods. ie? people took all the money they had to play. slot and the kind of games that can easily create addicts


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Mauser on June 13, 2022, 02:16:08 PM
A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?

Oh wow that's a big surprise to me, had no idea slot machines where so addictive. If you had asked me before I would have said that sports betting is much more addictive. Personally I like to do both but wouldn't say that I am addicted to either one. If I had to choose between the two I would probably pick sport betting because it's more fun and also more profitable. Slot machines are very common in my country, you can see them in many bars and every time I go drinking with friends with we spend a couple of Euros on them. The thing with slots is that we never really take any profits, if we win something we just spend it on more spins. In sports betting it's different, I like to take profits and save them. The idea is to one time win the jackpot on a slot machine, whereas the winnings on sports you already know when placing the bet. In my country I see many more people outside of the sport betting places than at a slot machine.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: serjent05 on June 13, 2022, 03:15:11 PM
talking about slot games, these days ago I went to the market in my neighborhood and entered a slot machine, I asked the owner of the machine: " aren't you afraid of the government asking you and giving you a fine and taking that machine away from you?" and he said: " I'm not afraid, they don't show up here ". then I left but I couldn't get the image that was in my head of last month when the government of my country started to collect all the slot machines that were illegally on the street, curious about all this and that doesn't get out of my head and that when the government of my country started to collect the illegal slot machines that were on the streets, when they opened the machines they found a lot of money, but the machines were located in very poor neighborhoods. ie? people took all the money they had to play. slot and the kind of games that can easily create addicts

The problem with this illegally placed slot machine is that most patronizers are childrens.  Children who go to school, save their meal budgets and rush to the slot machine when school ends.  People who work don't have free time to play, I bet they rather spend their money on booze and relax than play in that kind of environment.  Maybe adult bystanders or people who really love gambling.  Government must really crack this kind of illegal placements of slots machine in the neighborhood because it is slowly destroying children's future and at the same time it steals the supposed revenue of the legal gambling operators and the taxes.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: ReiMomo on June 13, 2022, 03:22:54 PM
I am sure, we will have huge number of games like slots in future. Market is focusing on how to bring in people to their platform. They do all kinds of research to convince people on their products by all those graphics and lightnings and etc. They make the environment in such a way, every unique personality gets attracted to it. Like, slots, casinos, jacks, betting sites and etc, we will have more stuffs where people will invest and get addicted to it. So slot is another step forward in bringing in more people.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: iv4n on June 13, 2022, 06:23:18 PM
Unlike betting on sports where we need to wait for games we wish to bet on, slots are available 24/7!
Though slot are available for 24/7, but you aren't allowed to play 24/7 without any break, because AFAIK some casinos accuse the account using a robot or any kind software since they think it's not a human.

I meant to say we can play slots at any time, is it a day or night, Monday or Sunday... slots are always available, an extensive choice of slots! We can't say the same for sports games, League games are primarily on weekends, and big cups have their timing... you can decide to bet on sports on Monday at 2 am, but on what choice of games can you count? I hope you get me now..





Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Tumanggor on June 13, 2022, 10:04:03 PM
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In terms of casinos, slots are the most popular casino game in the three English-speaking countries of the US, the UK, and Australia. The latest estimate is that this is the preference of 53% of all casino players

These are the statistics I read. besides slots, the second most played is the lottery. slots are the easiest and most profitable of all types of games in the casino (as opposed to crash game and dice)

I really like slots and lottery but not really addicted to it


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Quidat on June 13, 2022, 10:40:40 PM
Unlike betting on sports where we need to wait for games we wish to bet on, slots are available 24/7!
Though slot are available for 24/7, but you aren't allowed to play 24/7 without any break, because AFAIK some casinos accuse the account using a robot or any kind software since they think it's not a human.

I meant to say we can play slots at any time, is it a day or night, Monday or Sunday... slots are always available, an extensive choice of slots! We can't say the same for sports games, League games are primarily on weekends, and big cups have their timing... you can decide to bet on sports on Monday at 2 am, but on what choice of games can you count? I hope you get me now..




A wide variety of slots we do have currently in the market today with different providers and its true that you could play anytime and anywhere you do want which means that
accessibility is there and totally different if you do deal up with sports betting.When it comes to gambling problem then it would really vary because it wasnt just right
that it would only be only took on the blame on  slot games only considering  that entertainment and thrill could be both felt on different type of games
that we do have in the market today.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: tabas on June 13, 2022, 10:49:29 PM
Any form of gambling can be addictive and gambler is the person who should be in charge go control such urges to chase losses or deposit too much. Slots have higher house edge, so it is logical to say higher house edge games will go dry longer than original house games standing 1% house edge. Especially some promotions require catching 100x+ on particular slots but I have personally spun over 4k spins without 100x bonus round on base game hit on slot.
On this reason why slots are more addictive is because there's a science behind it and I think we can't argue with that. I agree about the visuals and audios of it. They truly are addicting and you're likely to look for it again and again after you've just played. But you are not wrong too, anything can form addiction depending to the gambler and how he's exactly making himself entertained from playing any of those. There's also science with it because of the emotion that each play gives to us. Some are for interaction like for poker, some are for the quick results and automatic bets for dice and so on and so forth. The differences that we've got for our own thoughts to be entertained and the research and studies connect it all especially we're more enjoying with those musics, there's really science behind those background music for each game.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: lixer on June 14, 2022, 06:28:11 PM
A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?
Oh wow that's a big surprise to me, had no idea slot machines where so addictive. If you had asked me before I would have said that sports betting is much more addictive. Personally I like to do both but wouldn't say that I am addicted to either one. If I had to choose between the two I would probably pick sport betting because it's more fun and also more profitable. Slot machines are very common in my country, you can see them in many bars and every time I go drinking with friends with we spend a couple of Euros on them. The thing with slots is that we never really take any profits, if we win something we just spend it on more spins. In sports betting it's different, I like to take profits and save them. The idea is to one time win the jackpot on a slot machine, whereas the winnings on sports you already know when placing the bet. In my country I see many more people outside of the sport betting places than at a slot machine.
Really? big surprise? But, I think it was a no-brainer that slots are considered to be one of the addictive gambling games because one is it was so easy to play and second is its catchy graphics and sound, third is this is classic. On most places slot machines where scattered but now it is revolutionized thanks to the internet and cryptocurrencies.

We can think that the game that we are hooked on are much more addictive than to slots because why would we become addicted to it in the first place? Not only the jackpot but it's also possible to win big on slots. That is if you bet more.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: ipanks on June 15, 2022, 05:53:46 AM
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That's obvious. Casinos will provide or add other games to attract gamblers to always gamble at their casinos. But slots are not the only gambling games that can make people addicted to playing them again because sports betting, blackjack, poker or other gambling games can also make people come back and become more addicted to playing them. But we should admit that slots with so many different looks do make people addicted to keep playing them and with small bets, people can play for a long time.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: johhnyUA on June 17, 2022, 09:55:00 PM
Slots are probably the worst type of gaming you can do. Terrible odds and is way too quick.  A lot of bets take a while to play out where as ots takes all of about 10 seconds to win/lose.  Terrible game.

Agreed with you.
But for some reasons a lot of people prefer slots and dice to something more complicated (like poker). At least in the online .and western world. In Asia there is a little bit different story with all of this. 
The game is really too quick, you can lose all your bank in few minutes (especially in online casinos, where the probability to win is extremely low). In offline slots, with 75 % prob of winning (Las Vegas, where it all highly regulated) there is a little different story


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: paxmao on June 17, 2022, 09:57:37 PM
Yes the nature of that game is such that it may create addiction much easier than other because the lights, the sounds, the fight against the machine tends to attrack player that somehow get hooked on it, despite of being an extremely simplistic game and well know because there is no real way of winning in the long term, not like poker or even some blackjack in certain cases.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: romero121 on June 18, 2022, 01:09:52 AM
Slots are probably the worst type of gaming you can do. Terrible odds and is way too quick.  A lot of bets take a while to play out where as ots takes all of about 10 seconds to win/lose.  Terrible game.

Agreed with you.
But for some reasons a lot of people prefer slots and dice to something more complicated (like poker). At least in the online .and western world. In Asia there is a little bit different story with all of this. 
The game is really too quick, you can lose all your bank in few minutes (especially in online casinos, where the probability to win is extremely low). In offline slots, with 75 % prob of winning (Las Vegas, where it all highly regulated) there is a little different story
Maybe there is such a difference in the winning probability on the Western nations and the Asian part. Lot of people prefer Dice and slot which is all because of the chance of winning in big multiple. Quite often we can see big hits from slots on livestream, which too a reason for being more addictive than other games. In my view slot is not for the small level gamblers, it is for the users who prefer to gamble with high bankroll.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: hunterXride on June 18, 2022, 04:20:35 AM
A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?
I answered slot gambling for me is just like playing games to entertain myself in my spare time.. I've been playing slot for a long time but I never expected a win from slot, if I get a win I think it's just a bonus from playing games.. if I lose I also never the emotion to continue to deposit to continue the game. so I can still control my control by assuming gambling is just a game to fill my spare time


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Peanutswar on June 18, 2022, 10:16:14 AM
Slots are probably the worst type of gaming you can do. Terrible odds and is way too quick.  A lot of bets take a while to play out where as ots takes all of about 10 seconds to win/lose.  Terrible game.

Agreed with you.
But for some reasons a lot of people prefer slots and dice to something more complicated (like poker). At least in the online .and western world. In Asia there is a little bit different story with all of this. 
The game is really too quick, you can lose all your bank in few minutes (especially in online casinos, where the probability to win is extremely low). In offline slots, with 75 % prob of winning (Las Vegas, where it all highly regulated) there is a little different story
Maybe there is such a difference in the winning probability on the Western nations and the Asian part. Lot of people prefer Dice and slot which is all because of the chance of winning in big multiple. Quite often we can see big hits from slots on livestream, which too a reason for being more addictive than other games. In my view slot is not for the small level gamblers, it is for the users who prefer to gamble with high bankroll.

Slot games is one of the most riskiest game it is all about a small chance of winning but these winnings can be a large profit of course, and it will depend on the risk of the amount for a bet the larger the profit, if you want to have a lesser risk i guess having a players interaction is the most ideal one such as the sportsbook and table top games like cards with that still at your own decision not base on the luck of the rotations.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: rahmad2nd on June 18, 2022, 03:12:49 PM
nice and interesting post for knowledge.
I totally agree with the research references on slot machine gambling.  I was once in a position that was very addicted to slot gambling.  to be able to divert a player's mind so that they can control their every desire to gamble is very difficult, I've experienced it.  according to the research description you describe dopamine is one of the factors many gamblers become highly addicted to.  In my opinion and experience, to be able to control slot gambling addiction in order to reduce its activities, one should look for transitions in other forms, for example: playing games that do not contain gambling, doing activities with family, busying themselves with work.  otherwise the player will find it difficult to control to stay sane, now for you members of this forum, the referral link on how to prevent addiction or get rid of addiction is highly recommended


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: lionheart78 on June 20, 2022, 10:48:38 AM
Here is another supporting article on why slots is more addictive than sports betting.

"Studies[1] by a Brown University psychiatrist, Robert Breen, have found that individuals who regularly play slots become addicted three to four times faster (in one year, versus three and a half years) than those who play cards or bet on sports."[2]

The article stated the reason that fast face and continuous wagering rhythm of play dampens the player's awareness of space, time, and monetary value which leads to addiction.



[1] Rapid Onset of Pathological Gambling in Machine Gamblers (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1014580112648)
[2] Slot Machines Are Designed to Addict (https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/10/09/are-casinos-too-much-of-a-gamble/slot-machines-are-designed-to-addict)


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 20, 2022, 03:23:23 PM
A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?
I answered slot gambling for me is just like playing games to entertain myself in my spare time.. I've been playing slot for a long time but I never expected a win from slot, if I get a win I think it's just a bonus from playing games.. if I lose I also never the emotion to continue to deposit to continue the game. so I can still control my control by assuming gambling is just a game to fill my spare time
That's great if you think that way because, at the very least, you're not chasing wins and just entertaining yourself in your spare time. That's what we have to do in playing gambling so that we won't be too eager to chase wins or even recover losses because it will be difficult to get. The victory we get from the game is just a bonus from luck coming to us so that we can win. And remember, if we can win some money, we should be able to quit and leave the casino. Otherwise, we can use the winning money to continue playing and there is a possibility that we will experience defeat.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: danherbias07 on June 20, 2022, 03:35:01 PM
Here is another supporting article on why slots is more addictive than sports betting.

"Studies[1] by a Brown University psychiatrist, Robert Breen, have found that individuals who regularly play slots become addicted three to four times faster (in one year, versus three and a half years) than those who play cards or bet on sports."[2]

The article stated the reason that fast face and continuous wagering rhythm of play dampens the player's awareness of space, time, and monetary value which leads to addiction.



[1] Rapid Onset of Pathological Gambling in Machine Gamblers (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1014580112648)
[2] Slot Machines Are Designed to Addict (https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/10/09/are-casinos-too-much-of-a-gamble/slot-machines-are-designed-to-addict)
I agree. Playing slots is a non stop game, there's no summer vacation in it. Unlike sports gambling which is where I am hooked, I don't mind taking the break if there is no game on Sunday or if it's the end of the season. There's no urge to make a bet on those times and I like that more to be busy with other things or learn more about how I can increase the chances of winning when the season restarts.
Continous type of playing leads to addiction and I think that's where the problem begins, it becomes a habit. No fun. Just like what is said on the OP.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Ebede on June 20, 2022, 03:42:05 PM
When you say slots gambling so I get confused or method of gambling you talking about. I think that the different gambling we have is casino and spa gambling but with the reference of what you write I have to show that some of us don't know some gambling because of the country will belong to so some gambling as mentioned is not co existing in everywhere


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: KTChampions on June 20, 2022, 03:53:50 PM
Here is another supporting article on why slots is more addictive than sports betting.

"Studies[1] by a Brown University psychiatrist, Robert Breen, have found that individuals who regularly play slots become addicted three to four times faster (in one year, versus three and a half years) than those who play cards or bet on sports."[2]

The article stated the reason that fast face and continuous wagering rhythm of play dampens the player's awareness of space, time, and monetary value which leads to addiction.



[1] Rapid Onset of Pathological Gambling in Machine Gamblers (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1014580112648)
[2] Slot Machines Are Designed to Addict (https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/10/09/are-casinos-too-much-of-a-gamble/slot-machines-are-designed-to-addict)

It is rather strange that this took a whole study (although in any case it is interesting to know the specific difference in addiction, even if it is inaccurate), in my opinion it is obvious that it is easier to get used to slots because in 10 minutes you can make 60-200 bets, while in betting, you are unlikely to have time to make at least one bet (if you do even a simple analysis).


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: masulum on June 20, 2022, 05:33:40 PM
-snip- in my opinion it is obvious that it is easier to get used to slots because in 10 minutes you can make 60-200 bets, while in betting, you are unlikely to have time to make at least one bet (if you do even a simple analysis).
Exactly, so why people easy being addicted in slots because they can bet anytime, and limitless. Of course, the ego alos will quickly rise to be able to win the game. Then, a game that is simple, easy to use, will look so fun, so they don't realize that they are addicted to games that are played and sometimes they are forget if they are currently on bets. I have to say, really hard to going away from slots, both win or lose.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: skarais on June 20, 2022, 05:48:57 PM
Exactly, so why people easy being addicted in slots because they can bet anytime, and limitless. Of course, the ego alos will quickly rise to be able to win the game. Then, a game that is simple, easy to use, will look so fun, so they don't realize that they are addicted to games that are played and sometimes they are forget if they are currently on bets. I have to say, really hard to going away from slots, both win or lose.
I admit that slots are the games that have really got me addicted so far and slots also cost me quite a bit of money. But it is true that this game has caused great addiction for those who are not able to manage their cravings and do not have good control over gambling.

I realize this from experience, but it's certainly very unethical to blame the game and its providers because we are the ones who have taken all the risks. One of the things we should know is to be responsible for any game that allows us to spend money and is potentially addictive. So we really have to be able to control it so it doesn't cause problems.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Sirait on June 20, 2022, 07:38:41 PM
Addiction to something happens because the sufferer feels comfortable, full of satisfaction (dopamine effect) when doing that. slots feature amazing animations and also great prizes easily if the player is lucky. I don't like slots but for lottery and soccer betting, I really love and feel addicted ;D
Just because it's easy to do doesn't mean you need to play it every day and that's what most people became after they suffered such addiction from playing slot machines. some of them are buried in debt because of these small matters that they could have avoided if they remained patient about their life. Slots are addictive because the environment where they put them has lots of people enjoying what they are doing at the moment but in reality, most of them are soon to suffer some serious depression when they lose everything they have in this tricky game.
most of the people who try to play slots for the first time will definitely win, this is what spurs them to continue playing and playing until without realizing it, they have become addicted. If a slot player is able to control himself and never owes anyone else to play slots then daily slot players will be able to control their finances, but this is not an easy job.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Viscore on June 20, 2022, 07:53:52 PM
According to research on online gambling behavior by GamblingAware,  slot gaming is more likely to cause problem gambling than sports betting and is heavily skewed towards the most deprived area.[1]

https://i.imgur.com/fGLovmj.png (https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/research-on-gambling-behavior-raised-red-flags-around-slots/)
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Insight into Online Gambling Landscape
Carried out by the National Centre for Social Research (NatCen) in collaboration with Professor David Forrest and Professor Ian McHale from the University of Liverpool, Patterns of Play analyzed online gambling data between July 2018 and June 2019 from seven major operators and a total of 139,152 online gambling accounts across bingo, live and virtual casino games, poker, slots, and sports betting.

The research sought to provide an insight into the online gambling landscape by answering four questions related to the basic patterns of play, the patterns’ variance for different types of people, patterns’ variance among different products, and types of behavior associated with problem gambling or at-risk gambling.

The NatCen data showed that online bettors with the largest losses were men around 40 and coming from economically deprived areas, while women dominated online bingo with 62%, in slot games female participation represented around one-third of all, while in casino and poker, similar to online betting, women’s share was less than a quarter.

More details about the research are here.[1]




But Why are slots so addicting?

In this article[2] we can read about the Psychology of Slots.  This tackles that slot machines is responsible for the greatest percentage of revenues in America's gambling capital in Las Vegas.  It also stated that the reason behind this success lies in our brain.


Cognitive Dissonance – The Psychological Phenomenon That Helps Us Gamble.
Just like how smokers disassociate from the well-known evidence that their smoking is killing them thru a psychological phenomenon called cognitive dissonance[3] Similarly, slot machines provoke cognitive dissonance amongst players.
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Every licensed slot machine in a land-based casino or online has a Return to Player (RTP) percentage that players can easily access.
This tells players on average, how much money they can expect to lose from every $100 spent wagering. Despite this figure proving to players that they will lose more than they win on average, people continue playing.
In much the same way that the nicotine rush of a cigarette makes the risks seem worth it, the chances of a big win help gamblers forget that they will on average, lose more than they will win.


Dopamine – The Brains Reward System

Whenever we do something that our primitive brain finds to be good or beneficial, such as eating, procreating and exercising a neurotransmitter called Dopamine is released in our brains. This chemical messenger is synonymous with pleasure and when it is released, we can often feel a sense of euphoria.[2]

Here are the factors stated on the article[2] why slots machine produce a high level of dopamine in our brain.
  • Video in slots machines
         Slots videos are designed to deliver great highs[4] and waves of euphoria to players.  Matching it with money rewards, huge amount of dopamine is released into the human brain.
  • Association of slot machines  with the intense feeling of pleasure
         This is the reason why continue playing slots machine even though they are losing, they keep on searching for the dopamine rush that a win can trigger
  • Designed to constantly offer small reward to keep players engaged
         This is specifically designed to activate the reward system in our brain as we begin to associate slots with pleasure, we will likely continue playing.


Interactive Controls – Increasing Control

Slot machines are designed for interactive controls.  This makes us feels that we are in control of every action we make thus giving us a sense of certainty ignoring the fact that winning and losing are really uncertain.
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every time you push down on the ‘spin’ button on a physical slot machine or an online slot, you are taking control in a way that your brain views as positive. Each time you press the button, the visual whirlwind of colours and shapes in front of your eyes release Dopamine in your brain.
No matter how many times you push the button, the same thing will happen, the reels on the slot will spin. This simple yet effective feedback loop boosts feelings of control amongst players which encourages them to ignore the uncertainty of winning or losing and play on for longer.


Visual & Audio Cues – Making Memories


Another factor why slot machines is addicting is its Visual and Audio Cues.  Whenever we win something, it retains in our memory because of these factors.  The more winnings we got from slots, the more prominent it will be in our minds.  It is because of the visual and sound effects we witnessed every time we win.
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Wins on a slot machine game are often followed by the sound of coins dropping from a height, flashing dollar signs on the screen and an array of flashing lights on the slot terminal. This makes a win on a slot a full-body experience that is not only intensely pleasurable and rewarding, but memorable too.

When these wins become etched on your brain, your Dopamine reward system is more likely to be activated whenever you think of slot machines. This helps to keep even the most casual of gamblers interested in slots for a long time, potentially even years after spinning the reels.


Summing up on  why Slots is very addicting

Slot machines aren’t a trick, nor have they been designed to deceive you and appeal to your primitive brain. Rather they are enjoyable distractions designed part by intention and part by accident to engage you for as long as possible.[2]


Add on:

Gambling Problem Possible Solution/Avoidance:

If ever you feel that you are in a borderline of being a compulsive gambler , you can refer on these list of link for ideas on how to deal with it.

  • The 10 most successful ways of overcoming gambling urges (https://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/memberarticles/the-10-most-successful-ways-of-overcoming-gambling-urges)
  • Gambling Addiction and Problem Gambling (https://www.helpguide.org/articles/addictions/gambling-addiction-and-problem-gambling.htm)
  • How to Help Someone With a Gambling Problem (https://www.psychguides.com/behavioral-disorders/gambling-addiction/how-to-help/)
  • How to Stop Gambling: 7 Helpful Tips (https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/process-addiction/compulsive-gambling/how-to-stop-gambling/)
  • Gambling - advice for family and friends (https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/gambling-advice-for-family-and-friends)


Sources and references:
[1] Research on Gambling Behavior Raised Red Flags around Slots (https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/research-on-gambling-behavior-raised-red-flags-around-slots/)
[2] The Psychology of Slot Machine (https://untamedscience.com/blog/the-psychology-of-slot-machines/#:~:text=Dopamine%20%E2%80%93%20The%20Brains%20Reward%20System&text=Because%20money%20is%20at%20stake,these%20intense%20feelings%20of%20pleasure.)
[3] Cognitive dissonance in tobacco smokers (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/030646039190028G)
[4] How Video Gaming Could Improve Your Cognitive Health And Skills (https://www.dumblittleman.com/benefits-of-video-gaming/)



A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?
If we are fond in casinos, slots games are part of it that make us keep coming back. Although i would admit that i have been addicted to it before, but now i have come to control it and already manage myself not to fall from gambling addiction. This time, i find more interest in sports betting, the reason that i have less time spending in slots games, and when i do i only see myself playing slots games just for entertainment.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: AmoreJaz on June 20, 2022, 08:07:48 PM
Addiction to something happens because the sufferer feels comfortable, full of satisfaction (dopamine effect) when doing that. slots feature amazing animations and also great prizes easily if the player is lucky. I don't like slots but for lottery and soccer betting, I really love and feel addicted ;D
Just because it's easy to do doesn't mean you need to play it every day and that's what most people became after they suffered such addiction from playing slot machines. some of them are buried in debt because of these small matters that they could have avoided if they remained patient about their life. Slots are addictive because the environment where they put them has lots of people enjoying what they are doing at the moment but in reality, most of them are soon to suffer some serious depression when they lose everything they have in this tricky game.
most of the people who try to play slots for the first time will definitely win, this is what spurs them to continue playing and playing until without realizing it, they have become addicted. If a slot player is able to control himself and never owes anyone else to play slots then daily slot players will be able to control their finances, but this is not an easy job.

slots are indeed addictive if you are to give in! this basically will depend on the person himself to what extent he will dwell on this gambling activity. if he doesn't contemplate on what's going on with his life, he can really go deep into this game. and it will be too late before he understands that he's in terrible situation. but he needs to address his situation if it is already affecting his health, finances and his relationship with his immediate family.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: crzy on June 20, 2022, 08:54:31 PM
-snip- in my opinion it is obvious that it is easier to get used to slots because in 10 minutes you can make 60-200 bets, while in betting, you are unlikely to have time to make at least one bet (if you do even a simple analysis).
Exactly, so why people easy being addicted in slots because they can bet anytime, and limitless. Of course, the ego alos will quickly rise to be able to win the game. Then, a game that is simple, easy to use, will look so fun, so they don't realize that they are addicted to games that are played and sometimes they are forget if they are currently on bets. I have to say, really hard to going away from slots, both win or lose.
This is a simple game yet addicting because you can have more bets in just a minute and the minimum bet is los compare to other games that’s why its a game that can cause more problem to some gamblers. The more you bet, a higher chance of getting addicted because you are exposed on gambling. Self control is still a key here and no matter what the game is if you don’t have this you can still fall on that trap.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: KennyR on June 20, 2022, 09:29:49 PM
I think this certainly has to do with the fact that there’s more slot machines than any other types of gambling outlet out there. Here in the US there’s a slot machine of some type in nearly every type of establishment from gas stations to hotels. Plus when you’re just putting in a few bucks at a time it doesn’t seem like a lot, but of course it adds up.
This is how people loss big out of gambling slot machines. When it is about the online casinos, not only slots every games cause problem. Majority of the users who get into gambling have got money problem. This makes them find it a way to earn. With this mindset when one gets into gambling he/she'll continue to gamble to recover the lost money through different games. So, not only slots every games cause problem when it is considered for different purposes.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: South Park on June 21, 2022, 04:30:06 AM
-snip- in my opinion it is obvious that it is easier to get used to slots because in 10 minutes you can make 60-200 bets, while in betting, you are unlikely to have time to make at least one bet (if you do even a simple analysis).
Exactly, so why people easy being addicted in slots because they can bet anytime, and limitless. Of course, the ego alos will quickly rise to be able to win the game. Then, a game that is simple, easy to use, will look so fun, so they don't realize that they are addicted to games that are played and sometimes they are forget if they are currently on bets. I have to say, really hard to going away from slots, both win or lose.
This is a simple game yet addicting because you can have more bets in just a minute and the minimum bet is los compare to other games that’s why its a game that can cause more problem to some gamblers. The more you bet, a higher chance of getting addicted because you are exposed on gambling. Self control is still a key here and no matter what the game is if you don’t have this you can still fall on that trap.
People have different reasons for liking or disliking slots, personally I am not a fan of them for two reasons, the first is that the game is too simple, I like games in which I like to think so games like blackjack or poker are better for someone like me, however the second reason is that the expected value you can get out of slots is very low, many times lower than most other casino games, meaning that you will lose more money if you bet the same amount of money in slots than in other games.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: swogerino on June 21, 2022, 06:50:07 AM
Here is another supporting article on why slots is more addictive than sports betting.

"Studies[1] by a Brown University psychiatrist, Robert Breen, have found that individuals who regularly play slots become addicted three to four times faster (in one year, versus three and a half years) than those who play cards or bet on sports."[2]

The article stated the reason that fast face and continuous wagering rhythm of play dampens the player's awareness of space, time, and monetary value which leads to addiction.



[1] Rapid Onset of Pathological Gambling in Machine Gamblers (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1014580112648)
[2] Slot Machines Are Designed to Addict (https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/10/09/are-casinos-too-much-of-a-gamble/slot-machines-are-designed-to-addict)

I think this is a good study for people who directly dive into gambling and playing slots,for people who have some experience with other games like sport betting before,they know very well that when playing slot machines is just another game play session in which they have prepared a bankroll,a time frame as a maximum play time and don't get sucked that easily into addiction.This is for experienced gamblers,for newbies I think the study is quite accurate but not that accurate for experienced ones.

Experienced gamblers know that they have to push the spin button a lot of times and don't get confused,they have the same bankroll prepared as if they were to place a single sport bet with that amount.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Mauser on June 21, 2022, 07:57:35 AM
Here is another supporting article on why slots is more addictive than sports betting.

"Studies[1] by a Brown University psychiatrist, Robert Breen, have found that individuals who regularly play slots become addicted three to four times faster (in one year, versus three and a half years) than those who play cards or bet on sports."[2]


Becoming addicted 3-4 faster with slots is a lot. I had no idea the difference between slots and sports betting is so big. It might be due to the time spend on slots and on sports betting. Placing a bet goes usually very quick and we can just forget about it, but playing slots takes a long time. What would be interesting now is to compare the money people spend who are addicted to slots and the money addicted people spend in sports betting. I would expect people to bet a lot of more money than they play with in slots. In Las Vegas the slot machines are the games with highest RTP. So anybody who is looking to spend as little money as possible while enjoying all the free perks of the casino should stick with slots.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: madnessteat on June 21, 2022, 08:23:13 AM
-snip- in my opinion it is obvious that it is easier to get used to slots because in 10 minutes you can make 60-200 bets, while in betting, you are unlikely to have time to make at least one bet (if you do even a simple analysis).
Exactly, so why people easy being addicted in slots because they can bet anytime, and limitless. Of course, the ego alos will quickly rise to be able to win the game. Then, a game that is simple, easy to use, will look so fun, so they don't realize that they are addicted to games that are played and sometimes they are forget if they are currently on bets. I have to say, really hard to going away from slots, both win or lose.
This is a simple game yet addicting because you can have more bets in just a minute and the minimum bet is los compare to other games that’s why its a game that can cause more problem to some gamblers. The more you bet, a higher chance of getting addicted because you are exposed on gambling. Self control is still a key here and no matter what the game is if you don’t have this you can still fall on that trap.
People have different reasons for liking or disliking slots, personally I am not a fan of them for two reasons, the first is that the game is too simple, I like games in which I like to think so games like blackjack or poker are better for someone like me, however the second reason is that the expected value you can get out of slots is very low, many times lower than most other casino games, meaning that you will lose more money if you bet the same amount of money in slots than in other games.

As far as I know today the return to the player in the slots is 95-98% and this ratio can be considered average for gambling. Slots have a memorable sound and visual effects when winning or receiving bonuses, so the gambler quickly gets used to the encouragement that he can not replace anything else. Habituation to the encouragement and causes many gamblers addiction, which without the control of the player can turn into a gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Betwrong on June 21, 2022, 08:47:56 AM
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A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?

Well, there are lots of activities that can trigger dopamine release: listening to your favourite band, making love, shopping, smelling cookies baking in the oven even. So, you basically switch to one of those, and you are fine. That's what I do, anyway.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: mirakal on June 21, 2022, 06:14:19 PM
Addiction to something happens because the sufferer feels comfortable, full of satisfaction (dopamine effect) when doing that. slots feature amazing animations and also great prizes easily if the player is lucky. I don't like slots but for lottery and soccer betting, I really love and feel addicted ;D
Just because it's easy to do doesn't mean you need to play it every day and that's what most people became after they suffered such addiction from playing slot machines. some of them are buried in debt because of these small matters that they could have avoided if they remained patient about their life. Slots are addictive because the environment where they put them has lots of people enjoying what they are doing at the moment but in reality, most of them are soon to suffer some serious depression when they lose everything they have in this tricky game.
most of the people who try to play slots for the first time will definitely win, this is what spurs them to continue playing and playing until without realizing it, they have become addicted. If a slot player is able to control himself and never owes anyone else to play slots then daily slot players will be able to control their finances, but this is not an easy job.

slots are indeed addictive if you are to give in! this basically will depend on the person himself to what extent he will dwell on this gambling activity. if he doesn't contemplate on what's going on with his life, he can really go deep into this game. and it will be too late before he understands that he's in terrible situation. but he needs to address his situation if it is already affecting his health, finances and his relationship with his immediate family.

It's already been proven that slots machine are more highly addictive than playing other games in the casino, and that is because of there graphics and lights that will really stick into the people's brain, especially that golden-yellow dollar sign. But, I really do agree that even if it's addictive, it's up to us how we counter these situations and make the proper mindset before we decide to play these machines because if we just let ourselves gave in then I'm afraid that a terrible situation is already approaching our way.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: lionheart78 on June 21, 2022, 06:41:50 PM
It's already been proven that slots machine are more highly addictive than playing other games in the casino, and that is because of there graphics and lights that will really stick into the people's brain, especially that golden-yellow dollar sign. But, I really do agree that even if it's addictive, it's up to us how we counter these situations and make the proper mindset before we decide to play these machines because if we just let ourselves gave in then I'm afraid that a terrible situation is already approaching our way.

Definitely it is up to us whether to give in or not until we lose control of ourselves.  We have known better but does anyone here tries to spin one more after the auto bet finishes?  Honestly, I keep on reminding myself that I will move to another slot game after I finish a set of intended auto bets on a slot but I keep pressing 1 more spin after the auto bet finishes.  It is probably because of another kind of fallacy hoping the scatter will kick in on the next spin.  Fallacy plus being hooked is a very bad combination.  This might end up in addiction and the way I counter that is to limit myself to the intended fund that I wanted to spend playing slots.

Well, there are lots of activities that can trigger dopamine release: listening to your favourite band, making love, shopping, smelling cookies baking in the oven even. So, you basically switch to one of those, and you are fine. That's what I do, anyway.

I agree, that is why I divert myself to other dopamine-producing activities such as playing games when I feel that I am too hooked on my gambling activities.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Google+ on June 21, 2022, 07:25:14 PM
Slots are games that are incredibly curious for anyone as well as for beginners. In my country the average slot player is 22 years old and above and they usually play slots on every site they play on. There is no particular reason for them to just be curious about multiplers and this curiosity sometimes affects their finances. so as usual to forget our defeats, we only decorate our defeats by drinking liquor to relieve stress but there are also those who play games on their smartphones to relieve stress.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Mahanton on June 21, 2022, 07:39:00 PM
Slots are games that are incredibly curious for anyone as well as for beginners. In my country the average slot player is 22 years old and above and they usually play slots on every site they play on. There is no particular reason for them to just be curious about multiplers and this curiosity sometimes affects their finances. so as usual to forget our defeats, we only decorate our defeats by drinking liquor to relieve stress but there are also those who play games on their smartphones to relieve stress.
Doesn't matter on where you do involved yourself with because any game type would definitely triggers your curiosity specially if it's your first time involving yourself on any gambling game doesn't matter if it's slots or not because it would really be just the same impression that you would able to feel out that's why I don't really believe that there's a specific games which could trigger out addiction because it could really be generalize that majority of games that involves money could really give out that kind impulsive feeling or emotions.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: KTChampions on June 21, 2022, 08:53:23 PM
-snip- in my opinion it is obvious that it is easier to get used to slots because in 10 minutes you can make 60-200 bets, while in betting, you are unlikely to have time to make at least one bet (if you do even a simple analysis).
Exactly, so why people easy being addicted in slots because they can bet anytime, and limitless. Of course, the ego alos will quickly rise to be able to win the game. Then, a game that is simple, easy to use, will look so fun, so they don't realize that they are addicted to games that are played and sometimes they are forget if they are currently on bets. I have to say, really hard to going away from slots, both win or lose.

By the way, in my opinion, it would be correct to take into account that different gambling has completely different mechanics. And if they compared just the number of bets that the average novice player makes, then naturally such games as slots or dice will always be in the lead and this will show that they are supposedly more addictive. But maybe 100 spins and 100 sports bets are equally addictive, who knows.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: cabron on June 21, 2022, 09:13:45 PM
-snip- in my opinion it is obvious that it is easier to get used to slots because in 10 minutes you can make 60-200 bets, while in betting, you are unlikely to have time to make at least one bet (if you do even a simple analysis).
Exactly, so why people easy being addicted in slots because they can bet anytime, and limitless. Of course, the ego alos will quickly rise to be able to win the game. Then, a game that is simple, easy to use, will look so fun, so they don't realize that they are addicted to games that are played and sometimes they are forget if they are currently on bets. I have to say, really hard to going away from slots, both win or lose.

By the way, in my opinion, it would be correct to take into account that different gambling has completely different mechanics. And if they compared just the number of bets that the average novice player makes, then naturally such games as slots or dice will always be in the lead and this will show that they are supposedly more addictive. But maybe 100 spins and 100 sports bets are equally addictive, who knows.

Seem what the studies shows. Slots machines make people bet continuously without interruptions unlike poker where they have to wait for card to deal. Like online dice its designed to get users addicted. For a lonely person, he can play all the time without interaction to someone.

There were studies that women starts with slot machines and get addicted like its the gateway to gambling and develop to making them play other games.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Pierre 2 on June 21, 2022, 09:19:05 PM
Honestly speaking I %100 agree with this topic. My very old grandma (who passed away like 5/6 years ago) was addicted to slot machines. By very old I mean above 80 literally. She always loved to go Cyprus to play slots machine. She even once asked me to find online casino where she could play slots. Visual appeal must be very very strong with those machines. And I know the fact she once won like 15 thousand dollar something which made her love it.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on June 22, 2022, 11:12:57 AM
A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?
I answered slot gambling for me is just like playing games to entertain myself in my spare time.. I've been playing slot for a long time but I never expected a win from slot, if I get a win I think it's just a bonus from playing games.. if I lose I also never the emotion to continue to deposit to continue the game. so I can still control my control by assuming gambling is just a game to fill my spare time

There are a lot of players in the crypto gambling who play slot games, maybe because this game was one of the easiest in the gambling industry. Actually slots was my favorite games here in cryto, but I am not doing it daily just once a week only. Win or loss its fine for me, just doing it for fun and taking it seriously to prevent stress. Meaning, if anyone is doing the same thing as mine, this will surely not going to cause of problem in the end while playing games.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: wxa7115 on June 22, 2022, 03:18:27 PM
Honestly speaking I %100 agree with this topic. My very old grandma (who passed away like 5/6 years ago) was addicted to slot machines. By very old I mean above 80 literally. She always loved to go Cyprus to play slots machine. She even once asked me to find online casino where she could play slots. Visual appeal must be very very strong with those machines. And I know the fact she once won like 15 thousand dollar something which made her love it.
It is not rare for slot machines to be so addictive, of all the gambling games that we know slots have been designed to perfection to try to keep you playing as much as possible so they are very effective at what they are supposed to do.

Now I do not think casinos actually want people to get addicted to them as this creates bad publicity, but some people are susceptible to get addicted as they do not have the same level of self-restrain as a regular person and they become addicted without realizing this has been the case.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: KTChampions on June 22, 2022, 06:29:25 PM
By the way, in my opinion, it would be correct to take into account that different gambling has completely different mechanics. And if they compared just the number of bets that the average novice player makes, then naturally such games as slots or dice will always be in the lead and this will show that they are supposedly more addictive. But maybe 100 spins and 100 sports bets are equally addictive, who knows.

Seem what the studies shows. Slots machines make people bet continuously without interruptions unlike poker where they have to wait for card to deal. Like online dice its designed to get users addicted. For a lonely person, he can play all the time without interaction to someone.

There were studies that women starts with slot machines and get addicted like its the gateway to gambling and develop to making them play other games.

If you play 12 tables at the same time, then you don’t even have time to pee, but it’s unlikely that a beginner will play poker in this way  ;D In any case, it is obvious that there is a relationship between the ability to bet endlessly and without pauses, but I would not argue that based on this one can draw conclusions that some kind of gambling is more addictive than another. Maybe the main thing is this - the ability to bet without interruption? That is, if the bookmaker allows you to make such bets (for example, on simulated football events), then this will cause the same addiction as on slots.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: virasisog on June 22, 2022, 06:53:44 PM
Honestly speaking I %100 agree with this topic. My very old grandma (who passed away like 5/6 years ago) was addicted to slot machines. By very old I mean above 80 literally. She always loved to go Cyprus to play slots machine. She even once asked me to find online casino where she could play slots. Visual appeal must be very very strong with those machines. And I know the fact she once won like 15 thousand dollar something which made her love it.
It is not rare for slot machines to be so addictive, of all the gambling games that we know slots have been designed to perfection to try to keep you playing as much as possible so they are very effective at what they are supposed to do.

Now I do not think casinos actually want people to get addicted to them as this creates bad publicity, but some people are susceptible to get addicted as they do not have the same level of self-restrain as a regular person and they become addicted without realizing this has been the case.

There are actually other addicting gambling games than slots. It just so happens that even oldies could keep playing it because it's simple and not too complex to play. I think no matter how addictive the game is, it still depends on the players on how to manage their self-control towards it. All gambling sites want us to keep playing but we should still know our limitations.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: RyanSmith23421 on June 22, 2022, 07:26:33 PM
I once saw an article that said that it takes 15 months to get addicted to gambling if you play slots


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Oilacris on June 22, 2022, 07:35:13 PM
I once saw an article that said that it takes 15 months to get addicted to gambling if you play slots
I did find some research about that 15 months and I found this
Slots highly addictive, gambling experts say (https://www.baltimoresun.com/politics/bal-md.slots30oct30-story.html#:~:text=The%20study%20focused%20on%20people,on%20horse%20or%20dog%20racing.)
Usually I don't really believe anytime or something I do read up on internet which do tell something which is out or doesn't have sense nor correlating or being realistic.15 months is too long yet addiction to gambling could even happen immediately.  :D


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Betwrong on June 23, 2022, 08:04:17 AM
Well, there are lots of activities that can trigger dopamine release: listening to your favourite band, making love, shopping, smelling cookies baking in the oven even. So, you basically switch to one of those, and you are fine. That's what I do, anyway.

I agree, that is why I divert myself to other dopamine-producing activities such as playing games when I feel that I am too hooked on my gambling activities.

Yeah, games. Great example. I forgot about it because I myself don't play video games, maybe because no dopamine release is triggered when I play, but, of course, for people who enjoy it, that would be a good substitution.

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Usually I don't really believe anytime or something I do read up on internet which do tell something which is out or doesn't have sense nor correlating or being realistic.15 months is too long yet addiction to gambling could even happen immediately.  :D

Idk, maybe they are talking about some severe addiction, and for that kind of addiction to develop it takes 15 months, but from my experience 3-4 weeks is enough for finding yourself in a situation when you start thinking, "Am I addicted?" 


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Smartprofit on June 23, 2022, 08:19:10 AM
Slots are also called “one-armed bandits”.  

Typically, slot machines (slots) are installed in places with the highest traffic of people.  
This allows you to involve the maximum number of people in the game.  

I know cases when slots were installed directly in grocery stores.  Retired grandmothers went to the grocery store, but could not resist the temptation to play slot machines.  In doing so, they lost their entire cash pension.  And they had nothing to buy groceries and household items.  Usually the slots are brightly colored and make pleasant sounds.  They create the atmosphere of a festive fair.  

Slots are created by experienced psychologists and designers.  

Therefore, in terms of such indicators as profitability, slots are in the lead.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Markinzo on June 23, 2022, 08:47:15 AM
According to research on online gambling behavior by GamblingAware,  slot gaming is more likely to cause problem gambling than sports betting and is heavily skewed towards the most deprived area.[1]

https://i.imgur.com/fGLovmj.png (https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/research-on-gambling-behavior-raised-red-flags-around-slots/)
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Insight into Online Gambling Landscape
Carried out by the National Centre for Social Research (NatCen) in collaboration with Professor David Forrest and Professor Ian McHale from the University of Liverpool, Patterns of Play analyzed online gambling data between July 2018 and June 2019 from seven major operators and a total of 139,152 online gambling accounts across bingo, live and virtual casino games, poker, slots, and sports betting.

The research sought to provide an insight into the online gambling landscape by answering four questions related to the basic patterns of play, the patterns’ variance for different types of people, patterns’ variance among different products, and types of behavior associated with problem gambling or at-risk gambling.

The NatCen data showed that online bettors with the largest losses were men around 40 and coming from economically deprived areas, while women dominated online bingo with 62%, in slot games female participation represented around one-third of all, while in casino and poker, similar to online betting, women’s share was less than a quarter.

More details about the research are here.[1]




But Why are slots so addicting?

In this article[2] we can read about the Psychology of Slots.  This tackles that slot machines is responsible for the greatest percentage of revenues in America's gambling capital in Las Vegas.  It also stated that the reason behind this success lies in our brain.


Cognitive Dissonance – The Psychological Phenomenon That Helps Us Gamble.
Just like how smokers disassociate from the well-known evidence that their smoking is killing them thru a psychological phenomenon called cognitive dissonance[3] Similarly, slot machines provoke cognitive dissonance amongst players.
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Every licensed slot machine in a land-based casino or online has a Return to Player (RTP) percentage that players can easily access.
This tells players on average, how much money they can expect to lose from every $100 spent wagering. Despite this figure proving to players that they will lose more than they win on average, people continue playing.
In much the same way that the nicotine rush of a cigarette makes the risks seem worth it, the chances of a big win help gamblers forget that they will on average, lose more than they will win.


Dopamine – The Brains Reward System

Whenever we do something that our primitive brain finds to be good or beneficial, such as eating, procreating and exercising a neurotransmitter called Dopamine is released in our brains. This chemical messenger is synonymous with pleasure and when it is released, we can often feel a sense of euphoria.[2]

Here are the factors stated on the article[2] why slots machine produce a high level of dopamine in our brain.
  • Video in slots machines
         Slots videos are designed to deliver great highs[4] and waves of euphoria to players.  Matching it with money rewards, huge amount of dopamine is released into the human brain.
  • Association of slot machines  with the intense feeling of pleasure
         This is the reason why continue playing slots machine even though they are losing, they keep on searching for the dopamine rush that a win can trigger
  • Designed to constantly offer small reward to keep players engaged
         This is specifically designed to activate the reward system in our brain as we begin to associate slots with pleasure, we will likely continue playing.


Interactive Controls – Increasing Control

Slot machines are designed for interactive controls.  This makes us feels that we are in control of every action we make thus giving us a sense of certainty ignoring the fact that winning and losing are really uncertain.
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every time you push down on the ‘spin’ button on a physical slot machine or an online slot, you are taking control in a way that your brain views as positive. Each time you press the button, the visual whirlwind of colours and shapes in front of your eyes release Dopamine in your brain.
No matter how many times you push the button, the same thing will happen, the reels on the slot will spin. This simple yet effective feedback loop boosts feelings of control amongst players which encourages them to ignore the uncertainty of winning or losing and play on for longer.


Visual & Audio Cues – Making Memories


Another factor why slot machines is addicting is its Visual and Audio Cues.  Whenever we win something, it retains in our memory because of these factors.  The more winnings we got from slots, the more prominent it will be in our minds.  It is because of the visual and sound effects we witnessed every time we win.
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Wins on a slot machine game are often followed by the sound of coins dropping from a height, flashing dollar signs on the screen and an array of flashing lights on the slot terminal. This makes a win on a slot a full-body experience that is not only intensely pleasurable and rewarding, but memorable too.

When these wins become etched on your brain, your Dopamine reward system is more likely to be activated whenever you think of slot machines. This helps to keep even the most casual of gamblers interested in slots for a long time, potentially even years after spinning the reels.


Summing up on  why Slots is very addicting

Slot machines aren’t a trick, nor have they been designed to deceive you and appeal to your primitive brain. Rather they are enjoyable distractions designed part by intention and part by accident to engage you for as long as possible.[2]


Add on:

Gambling Problem Possible Solution/Avoidance:

If ever you feel that you are in a borderline of being a compulsive gambler , you can refer on these list of link for ideas on how to deal with it.

  • The 10 most successful ways of overcoming gambling urges (https://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/memberarticles/the-10-most-successful-ways-of-overcoming-gambling-urges)
  • Gambling Addiction and Problem Gambling (https://www.helpguide.org/articles/addictions/gambling-addiction-and-problem-gambling.htm)
  • How to Help Someone With a Gambling Problem (https://www.psychguides.com/behavioral-disorders/gambling-addiction/how-to-help/)
  • How to Stop Gambling: 7 Helpful Tips (https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/process-addiction/compulsive-gambling/how-to-stop-gambling/)
  • Gambling - advice for family and friends (https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/gambling-advice-for-family-and-friends)


Sources and references:
[1] Research on Gambling Behavior Raised Red Flags around Slots (https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/research-on-gambling-behavior-raised-red-flags-around-slots/)
[2] The Psychology of Slot Machine (https://untamedscience.com/blog/the-psychology-of-slot-machines/#:~:text=Dopamine%20%E2%80%93%20The%20Brains%20Reward%20System&text=Because%20money%20is%20at%20stake,these%20intense%20feelings%20of%20pleasure.)
[3] Cognitive dissonance in tobacco smokers (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/030646039190028G)
[4] How Video Gaming Could Improve Your Cognitive Health And Skills (https://www.dumblittleman.com/benefits-of-video-gaming/)



A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?
These slot games were actually created to provide gamblers with pleasurable feelings apart from the money making aspect that's involved be it losing or winning. Some bettors or gamblers didn't just get addicted to gambling only for the sake of the money they are likely to win but also due to a certain level of pleasure they derive while engaging in it and this makes them look like compulsive gamblers to others.

As such those that knows what's involved makes sure they put in the amount of money they can easily forgo should they lose, as both winning and losing is uncertain.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: mu_enrico on June 23, 2022, 08:58:33 AM
For sure! Why? Because slots games are the most entertaining games in the casino. Probably only pachinko that has the same level of entertainment, the rest: table games, live games, sports betting, etc. are nowhere near slots. They are boring, outdated, and not graphically appealing.

Don't BS me we with "but it depends on your taste." The data said so.

Anyway, know your limit, so you can still play slots without risking your life.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: madnessteat on June 23, 2022, 10:01:55 AM
Slots are also called “one-armed bandits”. 

Typically, slot machines (slots) are installed in places with the highest traffic of people. 
This allows you to involve the maximum number of people in the game. 

I know cases when slots were installed directly in grocery stores.  Retired grandmothers went to the grocery store, but could not resist the temptation to play slot machines.  In doing so, they lost their entire cash pension.  And they had nothing to buy groceries and household items.  Usually the slots are brightly colored and make pleasant sounds.  They create the atmosphere of a festive fair. 

Slots are created by experienced psychologists and designers. 

Therefore, in terms of such indicators as profitability, slots are in the lead.

I absolutely agree with you. Remembering the time when I could visit land-based casinos I can say that it was difficult to pass by the slots as there was always a cheerful and noisy atmosphere, which obviously can not be said on the location where the poker or roulette were placed.

In my opinion, slots is one of the most vibrant and emotional gambling games, so it attracts users. At least for me it is one of the games of chance from which I get a real pleasure in the game.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: swogerino on June 23, 2022, 11:53:16 AM
Slots are also called “one-armed bandits”. 

Typically, slot machines (slots) are installed in places with the highest traffic of people. 
This allows you to involve the maximum number of people in the game. 

I know cases when slots were installed directly in grocery stores.  Retired grandmothers went to the grocery store, but could not resist the temptation to play slot machines.  In doing so, they lost their entire cash pension.  And they had nothing to buy groceries and household items.  Usually the slots are brightly colored and make pleasant sounds.  They create the atmosphere of a festive fair. 

Slots are created by experienced psychologists and designers. 

Therefore, in terms of such indicators as profitability, slots are in the lead.

I absolutely agree with you. Remembering the time when I could visit land-based casinos I can say that it was difficult to pass by the slots as there was always a cheerful and noisy atmosphere, which obviously can not be said on the location where the poker or roulette were placed.

In my opinion, slots is one of the most vibrant and emotional gambling games, so it attracts users. At least for me it is one of the games of chance from which I get a real pleasure in the game.

Exactly.You reminded me of not so many years ago or maybe quite some many years ago,15 years should be a lot of time but to me it looks like it was yesterday the time when me and my friends were staying at physical casinos until 2 Am or 3 Am trying to hit that jackpot.The atmosphere was great but the only thing I didn't like was the huge amount of smoke there and the alcohol which was offered for free,some of the friends were coming with us just to benefit from the free drinks.

All those beautiful graphics were sure to make you at least stop by and try a little bit of action there,the music was also appealing and the sounds were sure to make you stop there.We used to lose our complete payroll of a month there at times but luckily this has changed for the good for me.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: maydna on June 23, 2022, 12:49:29 PM
In my opinion, slots is one of the most vibrant and emotional gambling games, so it attracts users. At least for me it is one of the games of chance from which I get a real pleasure in the game.
That's why many people love playing slots and keep playing with more money. I also enjoy playing slots, but I play just for fun and not after winning. But I realized that playing slots can make us forget the time and money we spend. And that is what causes many people to have gambling problems because they lose track of time and control.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Boristhecat on June 23, 2022, 01:01:20 PM
For sure! Why? Because slots games are the most entertaining games in the casino. Probably only pachinko that has the same level of entertainment, the rest: table games, live games, sports betting, etc. are nowhere near slots. They are boring, outdated, and not graphically appealing.

Don't BS me we with "but it depends on your taste." The data said so.

Anyway, know your limit, so you can still play slots without risking your life.

In my opinion, there is more excitement in sports betting because there are unexpected comebacks when the game turns upside down and the level of tension is incredible in any important match (and if we are talking about matches for winning championship, this is generally an incredible level). In slots, everything is always about the same. You can increase the excitement in slots only by increasing the amount of the bet, but this leads to great risk and potentially great losses and harm.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: lionheart78 on June 23, 2022, 02:08:35 PM
In my opinion, there is more excitement in sports betting because there are unexpected comebacks when the game turns upside down and the level of tension is incredible in any important match (and if we are talking about matches for winning championship, this is generally an incredible level). In slots, everything is always about the same. You can increase the excitement in slots only by increasing the amount of the bet, but this leads to great risk and potentially great losses and harm.

But the thing is the excitement isn't repetitive as what slots give. You can experience more excitement in sports because you are rooting for a team to win.  That is according to your reply, unexpected comebacks, championship games, etc.  You can feel the excitement because you are a fan of the team competing but if you are not, I bet you won't feel that kind of excitement.  Slots may give a smaller amount of excitement but they can give it multiple times in a single minute and it stacks.  The reason why more people are addicted to slots than sports betting.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Plaguedeath on June 23, 2022, 02:25:10 PM
Slots may give a smaller amount of excitement but they can give it multiple times in a single minute and it stacks.  The reason why more people are addicted to slots than sports betting.
Don't forget slots is a game where you can play 24/7 whenever you like and how long you can survive, while sports it's probably once on few days or week(s) this will prevent you to not gamble too much. Unlike slots you're chasing the jackpot and when you didn't yet hit it, you will deposit more and more.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: mu_enrico on June 23, 2022, 02:35:34 PM
In my opinion, there is more excitement in sports betting because there are unexpected comebacks when the game turns upside down and the level of tension is incredible in any important match (and if we are talking about matches for winning championship, this is generally an incredible level).
That's the entertainment when you watch the game, in other words, from the match itself.
I'm just saying, based on the data, why slots generate more revenue for casinos than any other games. (https://www.quora.com/Which-game-does-a-casino-generate-the-most-revenue-from-in-terms-of-quarterly-or-annual-revenue-Im-not-asking-about-odds-per-game-I-have-heard-the-answer-is-slots)

Sure, it's not for all of us. One may like sports betting more, but in general, slots are more favorable because it's easy, available 24/7, visually appealing, addicting, etc. Again, it's dangerous if you can't control or limit yourself.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: KTChampions on June 23, 2022, 06:06:50 PM
Exactly.You reminded me of not so many years ago or maybe quite some many years ago,15 years should be a lot of time but to me it looks like it was yesterday the time when me and my friends were staying at physical casinos until 2 Am or 3 Am trying to hit that jackpot.The atmosphere was great but the only thing I didn't like was the huge amount of smoke there and the alcohol which was offered for free,some of the friends were coming with us just to benefit from the free drinks.

All those beautiful graphics were sure to make you at least stop by and try a little bit of action there,the music was also appealing and the sounds were sure to make you stop there.We used to lose our complete payroll of a month there at times but luckily this has changed for the good for me.

Yes, I don't smoke and I also have such memories of gaming clubs (including poker ones) - a lot of smoke and when you come home after hanging out there, all your clothes stink. Now the laws are much stricter and smoking is not so annoying, so I almost forgot about it, but in the past it was really a huge problem for non-smokers.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Joca97 on June 23, 2022, 08:37:36 PM
Slots arent the only thing that causes gambling problems there are a lot more other machine games such as roulette and other stuff. I think its just pure luck on slot games if you win. But in longterm you will lose 100% when playing any kind of slot games


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: alpamar99 on June 23, 2022, 08:54:23 PM
In my opinion, slots is one of the most vibrant and emotional gambling games, so it attracts users. At least for me it is one of the games of chance from which I get a real pleasure in the game.
That's why many people love playing slots and keep playing with more money. I also enjoy playing slots, but I play just for fun and not after winning. But I realized that playing slots can make us forget the time and money we spend. And that is what causes many people to have gambling problems because they lose track of time and control.
Because indeed slots prioritize their visualization and without a strategy there which makes gamblers forget anything and continue playing while they still have funds in their accounts.
Suffice it to say that Slots are actually more difficult to stop and bigger in addiction because indeed I also feel the same way when playing sometimes I forget about my time and financial condition even though I bet small amounts, but if I play I forget about time, it's hard to say that I experienced victory because most still lose. but my heart is still quite happy because there seems to be something new from the fun even more so because indeed I also don't have high hopes for winning, especially in slots.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Oilacris on June 23, 2022, 10:57:37 PM
Well, there are lots of activities that can trigger dopamine release: listening to your favourite band, making love, shopping, smelling cookies baking in the oven even. So, you basically switch to one of those, and you are fine. That's what I do, anyway.

I agree, that is why I divert myself to other dopamine-producing activities such as playing games when I feel that I am too hooked on my gambling activities.

Yeah, games. Great example. I forgot about it because I myself don't play video games, maybe because no dopamine release is triggered when I play, but, of course, for people who enjoy it, that would be a good substitution.

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Usually I don't really believe anytime or something I do read up on internet which do tell something which is out or doesn't have sense nor correlating or being realistic.15 months is too long yet addiction to gambling could even happen immediately.  :D

Idk, maybe they are talking about some severe addiction, and for that kind of addiction to develop it takes 15 months, but from my experience 3-4 weeks is enough for finding yourself in a situation when you start thinking, "Am I addicted?" 
Addiction could neither be mild to severe and it do really depends on how many weeks or months you would really be having those own questions in mind that if you are addicted.Its really impossible that you wont really be

having those kind of questions in regarding with your actions which its impossible that you would simply be ignoring if ever you do find out that you are doing too much and not really that good already into your finances.

Addiction could be molded out easily when you do really have that kind of intent in mind on how to make quick bucks without putting much effort on it.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on June 23, 2022, 11:00:01 PM
Slots fall into the classification of games of chance, and their description says so, chance is the most important here, some casino games such as poker, roulette, also fall into this classification, unless it is in PVP mode That if everything changes or if I enter sports betting, the chances of winning for me are much greater.

Slots are considered games of chance where people frequent them to have fun, those who see it as a job are very wrong and yes, that way they can lose a lot, but if we see physical casinos, many people are in slots , and they last a long time, it is because they make very small bets and most of them are looking for fun.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Smartprofit on June 24, 2022, 09:27:22 AM
Slots are also called “one-armed bandits”. 

Typically, slot machines (slots) are installed in places with the highest traffic of people. 
This allows you to involve the maximum number of people in the game. 

I know cases when slots were installed directly in grocery stores.  Retired grandmothers went to the grocery store, but could not resist the temptation to play slot machines.  In doing so, they lost their entire cash pension.  And they had nothing to buy groceries and household items.  Usually the slots are brightly colored and make pleasant sounds.  They create the atmosphere of a festive fair. 

Slots are created by experienced psychologists and designers. 

Therefore, in terms of such indicators as profitability, slots are in the lead.

I absolutely agree with you. Remembering the time when I could visit land-based casinos I can say that it was difficult to pass by the slots as there was always a cheerful and noisy atmosphere, which obviously can not be said on the location where the poker or roulette were placed.

In my opinion, slots is one of the most vibrant and emotional gambling games, so it attracts users. At least for me it is one of the games of chance from which I get a real pleasure in the game.

The slots are designed by very experienced psychologists. 

Outwardly, slots look like soda machines, rides, carousels, etc.  They are brightly colored and make pleasant sounds.  There is a feeling that a cheerful clown sits in each slot and entertains you.  These are all pictures from childhood, when everything was simple and fun. 

This is another reminder that gambling is not about making money, but about having fun.  And slots create an atmosphere of childhood and joy. 

That is why gamblers are very fond of playing slots (slot machines).  The popularity of slots is much higher than the popularity of table games (roulette, poker and dice).


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Betwrong on June 24, 2022, 11:39:23 AM
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~ Addiction could be molded out easily when you do really have that kind of intent in mind on how to make quick bucks without putting much effort on it.

Indeed those are dangerous thoughts that always lead to problems, and not only financial ones.

Gambling isn't there to make quick bucks, it's for entertainment and relaxation. Even poker and sports betting should not be considered as a money making process, let alone purely luck based games like slots.

Yes, slots are addictive because it's fun to play them, and there are so many of them that you can always find a perfect one to your liking. And that's a good thing in general, but don't turn it into something more serious than entertainment.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: mirakal on June 24, 2022, 03:39:14 PM
In my opinion, slots is one of the most vibrant and emotional gambling games, so it attracts users. At least for me it is one of the games of chance from which I get a real pleasure in the game.
That's why many people love playing slots and keep playing with more money. I also enjoy playing slots, but I play just for fun and not after winning. But I realized that playing slots can make us forget the time and money we spend. And that is what causes many people to have gambling problems because they lose track of time and control.
Slots were created in the first place with the advantage of casinos and not for the gamblers so of course it would result into a not so desired outcome if we just let ourselves play that machine without setting some borderlines when to go. Don't read me wrong, slots are fun to play and makes us forget the real world but that's also the problem right there, we will lost track of time as well as our money and already too late to tell that we've spend too much.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: maydna on June 24, 2022, 03:51:36 PM
Because indeed slots prioritize their visualization and without a strategy there which makes gamblers forget anything and continue playing while they still have funds in their accounts.
Suffice it to say that Slots are actually more difficult to stop and bigger in addiction because indeed I also feel the same way when playing sometimes I forget about my time and financial condition even though I bet small amounts, but if I play I forget about time, it's hard to say that I experienced victory because most still lose. but my heart is still quite happy because there seems to be something new from the fun even more so because indeed I also don't have high hopes for winning, especially in slots.
Before you play slots, you have to make sure you have good self-control so that you won't become addicted and can quit whenever you want. As time goes on to play slots, the desire to win another will get bigger and make us play longer because we think that the next spin is our luck. In addition, many gamblers will deposit more if they lose because they can be curious about their loss and want to try playing again.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: dataispower on June 24, 2022, 04:29:38 PM
Every gambling game invented causes your brain to trigger the release of dopamine which, in turn, helps you get addicted to the game. You'll crave for it, your brain will always look for that pleasure you're getting regardless of the game you are playing. Slots, well, they are the easiest game you can get your hands into, and also probably the easiest to get your hopes up for. That's why the research ended up naming slots as the main culprit in this study, because of how simple and easy it is to get hooked in playing it.
i will said that is our own understanding of games. No game have the hundred percent guarantee of gaining or easier to play and make profit, it's our instincts that makes game of gambling to be simple to us, because we have already put our minds there and conclude that it's the good one for us to playing as the easiest game to be played. If any gamblers bring out time to study a game structure or game standards it will not take time to know that the game is simple and quiet understandable


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Oilacris on June 24, 2022, 09:09:51 PM
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~ Addiction could be molded out easily when you do really have that kind of intent in mind on how to make quick bucks without putting much effort on it.

Indeed those are dangerous thoughts that always lead to problems, and not only financial ones.

Gambling isn't there to make quick bucks, it's for entertainment and relaxation. Even poker and sports betting should not be considered as a money making process, let alone purely luck based games like slots.

Yes, slots are addictive because it's fun to play them, and there are so many of them that you can always find a perfect one to your liking. And that's a good thing in general, but don't turn it into something more serious than entertainment.
But we are seeing the different scenario yet considering on how big gambling industry had become over the past years until into the present which do really shows that people do really end up on going into that path.
which they do become impulsive and doesnt matter whether they are into slots,sports betting or poker it would really be just ending on the same intent which is to make money and some do still try on pursuing the impossible.

I know there are people who do able to sustain theirselves on playing for long term and able to make a living with gambling even though its sounds impossible but it did really happen.
All gambling games do poses such risk about those common problems specially when you are addicted, from financial till to relational type of problems which been commonly experienced.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: alpamar99 on June 24, 2022, 09:59:07 PM
Because indeed slots prioritize their visualization and without a strategy there which makes gamblers forget anything and continue playing while they still have funds in their accounts.
Suffice it to say that Slots are actually more difficult to stop and bigger in addiction because indeed I also feel the same way when playing sometimes I forget about my time and financial condition even though I bet small amounts, but if I play I forget about time, it's hard to say that I experienced victory because most still lose. but my heart is still quite happy because there seems to be something new from the fun even more so because indeed I also don't have high hopes for winning, especially in slots.
Before you play slots, you have to make sure you have good self-control so that you won't become addicted and can quit whenever you want. As time goes on to play slots, the desire to win another will get bigger and make us play longer because we think that the next spin is our luck. In addition, many gamblers will deposit more if they lose because they can be curious about their loss and want to try playing again.
This is an important factor that must be considered because even if I look at myself, even if I play this for fun, when I say far from wanting to win, it is clear that victory is something that is targeted which makes this difficult to control.
But in this case I personally make a trick when depositing I don't give too much money there and when I finish either for 1 time the game runs out or several times it runs out I always don't continue because indeed this is control for myself that makes me at a higher level. quite safe when playing so this doesn't make me one of those people who do everything for slots or gambling.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Bitinity on June 25, 2022, 05:50:34 AM
Because indeed slots prioritize their visualization and without a strategy there which makes gamblers forget anything and continue playing while they still have funds in their accounts.
Suffice it to say that Slots are actually more difficult to stop and bigger in addiction because indeed I also feel the same way when playing sometimes I forget about my time and financial condition even though I bet small amounts, but if I play I forget about time, it's hard to say that I experienced victory because most still lose. but my heart is still quite happy because there seems to be something new from the fun even more so because indeed I also don't have high hopes for winning, especially in slots.
Before you play slots, you have to make sure you have good self-control so that you won't become addicted and can quit whenever you want. As time goes on to play slots, the desire to win another will get bigger and make us play longer because we think that the next spin is our luck. In addition, many gamblers will deposit more if they lose because they can be curious about their loss and want to try playing again.

It applies for all kind of gambling games, not only slot games. That's why I said previously that the type of gambling game does not really matter as long as we have great self control. Addiction and other gambling problem comes from ourselves, not from the type of the game we play. All in all, saying this game or that game will give more chance for addiction is not completely true.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: STT on June 25, 2022, 06:12:09 AM
The most interactive game for me is poker or sports betting I think, it has the most factors and there an infinite amount of strategies when it comes to competing vs people or considering sports bets.   Slots are a game within a game, its more flashy and instant perhaps but I'd have to say its not what feels most interactive.  Its probably because of the instant feedback route, if we are talking brain waves then I guess thats the flow of cause and reward / loss is quicker but I'm lucky I need the larger factors to really be involved in something or I get bored or its not real enough I guess so I would move on etc.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: maydna on June 25, 2022, 09:02:27 AM
This is an important factor that must be considered because even if I look at myself, even if I play this for fun, when I say far from wanting to win, it is clear that victory is something that is targeted which makes this difficult to control.
But in this case I personally make a trick when depositing I don't give too much money there and when I finish either for 1 time the game runs out or several times it runs out I always don't continue because indeed this is control for myself that makes me at a higher level. quite safe when playing so this doesn't make me one of those people who do everything for slots or gambling.
If you can stop yourself when your money runs out, that's good self-control because not everyone can. Most people will try to deposit another amount of money and continue playing because they want to win some money. It is better to use gambling just for fun and not to try to win money from gambling because it is something that is not easy. We must use gambling properly so that we do not become addicted and can control the spending of our money, which is used for gambling.

It applies for all kind of gambling games, not only slot games. That's why I said previously that the type of gambling game does not really matter as long as we have great self control. Addiction and other gambling problem comes from ourselves, not from the type of the game we play. All in all, saying this game or that game will give more chance for addiction is not completely true.
Yes, self-control is a determining factor that we must have to avoid addiction problems in the long term. When we play gambling, we will feel tempted to continue playing, and slots are one type of gambling that can make us forget to stop. But we must have good self-control whatever type of gambling game we play.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: _act_ on June 25, 2022, 10:18:46 AM
In my opinion, slots is one of the most vibrant and emotional gambling games, so it attracts users. At least for me it is one of the games of chance from which I get a real pleasure in the game.
That's why many people love playing slots and keep playing with more money. I also enjoy playing slots, but I play just for fun and not after winning. But I realized that playing slots can make us forget the time and money we spend. And that is what causes many people to have gambling problems because they lose track of time and control.
I see this the other way around, I see slot as a gambling type that let gamblers to know they have only luck to win, because of these, they can use just low amount of money for it. Sport gambling will only deceive gamblers, they will think they can analyse and bet and win the bet, but if they play often, they will only noticed that gambling is gambling and no difference. I do not see the article helping at all because anyone can become addicted in any type of gambling, not only slot.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: Hypnosis00 on June 25, 2022, 10:47:08 AM
In my opinion, slots is one of the most vibrant and emotional gambling games, so it attracts users. At least for me it is one of the games of chance from which I get a real pleasure in the game.
That's why many people love playing slots and keep playing with more money. I also enjoy playing slots, but I play just for fun and not after winning. But I realized that playing slots can make us forget the time and money we spend. And that is what causes many people to have gambling problems because they lose track of time and control.
I see this the other way around, I see slot as a gambling type that let gamblers to know they have only luck to win, because of these, they can use just low amount of money for it. Sport gambling will only deceive gamblers, they will think they can analyse and bet and win the bet, but if they play often, they will only noticed that gambling is gambling and no difference. I do not see the article helping at all because anyone can become addicted in any type of gambling, not only slot.
I agree with that, if gamblers think that they can only win by luck, they will not invest a lot of time and money in order to win. They will invest more on gambling games that they think they can win with their skills and sports betting is one of the many, and if a gambler will not be able to control, most likely he will be addicted and experience the consequences of irresponsible gambling.


Title: Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem
Post by: lionheart78 on June 25, 2022, 11:11:00 AM
I see this the other way around, I see slot as a gambling type that let gamblers to know they have only luck to win, because of these, they can use just low amount of money for it. Sport gambling will only deceive gamblers, they will think they can analyse and bet and win the bet, but if they play often, they will only noticed that gambling is gambling and no difference. I do not see the article helping at all because anyone can become addicted in any type of gambling, not only slot.

Did you see anywhere in the article that only slots are addictive?  I never saw anything denying other gambling games being addictive.  Even the title itself indirectly implies that not only slots game is addictive.  The article is implying and is backed by research and survey that slot game is more likely to cause gambling problems.  Take note of more likely, it does not mean "only".



Closing this thread now since I think we had enough response and interaction here.  Further discussion will only lead to spam.  Thank you very much for all the inputs.