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June 11, 2022, 08:09:41 AM
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Maybe but I think people don't spend a serious amount in slots because they know that the house edge is very high.

per : https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/10/study-busts-popular-myth-that-gamblers-can-sense-differences-in-house-edge/
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The house edge for slot machines typically falls between 5% and 10%..........

So still think that biggest market which is sportsbetting has a lot of gamblers addicted to it.
People usually gets addicted when they are challenge, in slots it's not challenging because you only win by luck while in sports betting you can win by your skills.

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June 11, 2022, 08:53:00 AM
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I don't really play slots so I can't really answer your question but this is a very informative thread. also, I guess aside from what was explained in the original post, slot machines being easy to understand and play helps to attract new gamblers.
Nowadays the slot is growing very rapidly, even many agents send me offers to join. They sent Watshap messages with beautiful profile pictures, out of nowhere they have my number. At the moment I'm honestly not interested in slots. It seems like slots are very easy and only require luck to win. But I also heard a lot of slot players are willing to have a lot of debts to the point of not being able to return them. In the end they chose to commit suicide. It looks like playing slots is already on the program from there for the win.
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June 11, 2022, 08:55:23 AM
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I think slot is not the only gambling game that can cause gambling problems but I admit that slot is one of the gambling games that many people like. But that does not mean a slot is the gambling game that causes the problem. And with so many gambling games, including crypto gambling games, that attract many people who will make the games their favorite gambling games. People like to play slots because of the easiness of playing without learning more skills or creating strategies to win because slot games will depend on their luck.
I believe that the trouble and the difference is that you get to gamble with slot non-stop if you want to and many people and that is the issue. I have to admit that I was one of those people, I gambled slots a lot at one point, not gambling there so much anymore but that was a type of game that would get my attention a lot.

Even in our phones, we have slot "games" where you gamble and win something but you could literally buy chips there, which is saying you can lose real money but can't make any real profit at all. This is why I believe that we shouldn't really focus on this at all, it wouldn't be fair. So slots could be a bit more riskier in that sense.
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June 11, 2022, 09:14:49 AM
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According to research on online gambling behavior by GamblingAware,  slot gaming is more likely to cause problem gambling than sports betting and is heavily skewed towards the most deprived area.[1]
That is because Poor people are mostly to be wanted to gamble for easy money , this is the main objective and yes they are successful on that matter and now ? it is the time for the government to look unto this because there are so many cases happening to the people now that instead of gaining? they are continuously losing and yes , their life is becoming more miserable because of Slot machines and other form of gambling .









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June 11, 2022, 09:18:21 AM
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I think you somehow deviated from the point that OP mentioned.

While sports gambling can be addictive, slots can be associated with more addiction due to its very simple nature and convenience on the player's end. In addition, slots are designed in order to trick the brain into winning the whole jackpot since they show figures that a player can potentially receive.

While complete data is provided (like OP mentioned) to show that the odds of winning a slot machine jackpot is so low, people still opt to choose this kind of gambling method. I hope the government creates some sort of regulation or at least provide more disclaimers about slot machines in order to avoid addiction more.
Not deviating from what OP post is what is more important, this should be more about what is practical. As far as I know, people are addicted in gambling in general, be it any gambling type they choose. In the environment that I live, most addictions are from sport because people in my area like betting on sport most and very well, especially football. You like it or not, if someone do not discipline himself or herself, the person will likely be addicted to any gambling type, I do not know why only empathizing on slot when in real life, all other types can be addictive.

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June 11, 2022, 09:19:47 AM
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Maybe but I think people don't spend a serious amount in slots because they know that the house edge is very high.

per : https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/10/study-busts-popular-myth-that-gamblers-can-sense-differences-in-house-edge/
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The house edge for slot machines typically falls between 5% and 10%..........

It looks like the article you linked clearly contradicts your statement.

So still think that biggest market which is sportsbetting has a lot of gamblers addicted to it.


We have the right to our opinion but statistics can't be denied. Can we have the statistic link for this?

People usually gets addicted when they are challenge, in slots it's not challenging because you only win by luck while in sports betting you can win by your skills.

This reply clearly contradicts your statement.  

It makes sense really because addiction is mostly the result of repeated behavior, except for cases of chemical addiction. Once you form a habit by playing a game like slots a thousand times, you start to become conditioned to want the same. As there is no element of skill involved, you're not trying to outwit or outplay an opponent so your mind simply ends up on autopilot. This is one reason to stay away from such zero skill games, besides the fact they are guaranteed money losers over the long term.

I can say both sports betting and slots are addictive but according to the given articles, slots produce more addicted players.

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June 11, 2022, 09:26:15 AM
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We know that slot games is one of the most known in the gambling because of the images, patterns and prizes of it shows because slot is like lottery that base in the luck but today we have the slot have a higher RTP that's why the player really like to play more because of the odds. Now it depends on the player how they will focus with it because this is not the only gambling games mostly of them because of the jackpot price.
Always manage your risk and if you think your luck is not in the slot try other more games.

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A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?

If you say losing $10k in slots while my reasoning is fully aware that I shouldn't do that during the game session is considered uncontrollable urge then I can say yes to the first question.  I have that money reserved for something  else, but busted them all in a slot games.  I still regretted it until now coz life would have been a bit easier if I had put it where it should be.  I am glad it is all ok at my end now since I am able to recover that $10k from other means(job, investment, trading) though it took me more than a year to recover that fund.
I considered myself lucky because I am able to wake up from the hypnotic attraction of slots.  Maybe the lack of fund partially helped too since I have to stop before I made anymore mistake.  Staying away or giving myself a break is one of the method I use to keep myself sane.
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So still think that biggest market which is sportsbetting has a lot of gamblers addicted to it.
People usually gets addicted when they are challenge, in slots it's not challenging because you only win by luck while in sports betting you can win by your skills.

The Challenge to winning is not the same as the desire in winning, you are challenged not because you are addicted you are challenged in pursuing things you like and the game will be challenging if you are using skills to certain games, but the desire in winning I thing that is certainly near from being addicted, Slot games doesn't require skills but only luck, there is no challenge in that game because you are not using your skill, while Sportsbet may need some skills, and analysis in certain teams and the game it self it will give you the edge in winning while Casino gambling like slot, will just be base on pure luck,


Nowadays the slot is growing very rapidly, even many agents send me offers to join. They sent Watshap messages with beautiful profile pictures, out of nowhere they have my number. At the moment I'm honestly not interested in slots. It seems like slots are very easy and only require luck to win. But I also heard a lot of slot players are willing to have a lot of debts to the point of not being able to return them. In the end they chose to commit suicide. It looks like playing slots is already on the program from there for the win.

Totally that was for the extreme, and if a gambler ends up like that he or she might be addicted to it, In my opinion, it is easy to play slot, but it is very hard in winning it, what I am saying is it is pretty much easy to play slot because you just pull the levers and let your luck do its thing, it has the easy method in playing it, but the catch is it is very hard to win or your win will be random and will purely base on luck alone,

And getting debt in any form of gambling is dangerous and could lead to frustration, or loaning to gamble is surely what I recommended, but desperate people always do it, out of desperation they will loan a sum of money and play gamble with it, people might already be addicted to it,
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June 11, 2022, 10:12:25 AM
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That is because Poor people are mostly to be wanted to gamble for easy money
Everyone wants to earn easy money but in terms of this reason, gamblers are not choosing any status in life. But it's not really a hidden secret that the higher percentage from the poverty line is into gambling because that's what they think is the way to earn easily and get out of poverty.

this is the main objective and yes they are successful on that matter and now ? it is the time for the government to look unto this because there are so many cases happening to the people now that instead of gaining? they are continuously losing and yes , their life is becoming more miserable because of Slot machines and other form of gambling .
Most countries are okay and have a go signal for gambling and that's why it's legal to operate as long as the casinos are registered and has a permit to operate. And what the casino and the government has to do is to remind everyone to gamble moderately.

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That is because Poor people are mostly to be wanted to gamble for easy money
Everyone wants to earn easy money but in terms of this reason, gamblers are not choosing any status in life. But it's not really a hidden secret that the higher percentage from the poverty line is into gambling because that's what they think is the way to earn easily and get out of poverty.

It was too unfortunate that many poor people wish to have luck in gambling. And instead of keeping that money to feed their families, they gamble it and lose.

For me, slot and any form of gambling is not a problem and will not cause any harm, what makes this becomes a problem is the mindset of the people. They rely on luck to improve their lives instead of working hard. They really think that easy money really exists in the real world.

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June 11, 2022, 11:19:58 AM
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That is because Poor people are mostly to be wanted to gamble for easy money
Everyone wants to earn easy money but in terms of this reason, gamblers are not choosing any status in life. But it's not really a hidden secret that the higher percentage from the poverty line is into gambling because that's what they think is the way to earn easily and get out of poverty.

It was too unfortunate that many poor people wish to have luck in gambling. And instead of keeping that money to feed their families, they gamble it and lose.

For me, slot and any form of gambling is not a problem and will not cause any harm, what makes this becomes a problem is the mindset of the people. They rely on luck to improve their lives instead of working hard. They really think that easy money really exists in the real world.
Because they want to realize false hopes, only to get rich who only rely on luck, and that's how they play slots or online gambling, slot gambling is very easy to play even by poor people as well as children and minors.
but actually they didn't realize how much they won, it wouldn't be greater than their loss due to defeat.
Slot gambling is very popular including in the country where I live and where I am there are definitely slots that people play and that look like poor people.

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June 11, 2022, 11:50:23 AM
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That's because they see examples of their friends who play gambling and can win some money through gambling. Maybe if they change their mindset and don't risk losing money through gambling, they can still save the money for tomorrow. They also do not try to gamble and will stay away from it. Playing slots and other gambling games is okay as long as we can control ourselves so we don't get addicted.



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June 11, 2022, 12:32:56 PM
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That is because Poor people are mostly to be wanted to gamble for easy money
Everyone wants to earn easy money but in terms of this reason, gamblers are not choosing any status in life. But it's not really a hidden secret that the higher percentage from the poverty line is into gambling because that's what they think is the way to earn easily and get out of poverty.

It was too unfortunate that many poor people wish to have luck in gambling. And instead of keeping that money to feed their families, they gamble it and lose.

For me, slot and any form of gambling is not a problem and will not cause any harm, what makes this becomes a problem is the mindset of the people. They rely on luck to improve their lives instead of working hard. They really think that easy money really exists in the real world.
It's a mindset that's hard to change and we understand why they're thinking like that. It's due to the poverty that they've been experiencing. Everyone wants to get out of it so quick so they take risk through gambling but I hope that many of them have a long term vision of themselves working in a better place and as well as having a business and when they reach that success, they'll lie low on gambling to focus on the things that they're working for to get out of it and remove that easy money mindset.

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June 11, 2022, 12:44:38 PM
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That's because they see examples of their friends who play gambling and can win some money through gambling. Maybe if they change their mindset and don't risk losing money through gambling, they can still save the money for tomorrow. They also do not try to gamble and will stay away from it. Playing slots and other gambling games is okay as long as we can control ourselves so we don't get addicted.

As for me, it isn't the game that has a problem, it's the gamblers who can't control themselves from playing too much without noticing its negative effects on them physically and mentally. Slots will never be a problem as long as a gambler enjoys them positively and knows how to control themselves from greed and overplaying.
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June 11, 2022, 01:38:32 PM
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A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time?  How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?

I think there's no need to ask the slots players if they ever felt they can't control themselves playing at slots as the answer is obvious. Although the second question is more appropriate to ask since ways of managing to become responsible vary with each player.

For me, I don't consider slot as the most addictive gambling game in the industry. Is there any research done for that?

I do play slots before but it not really catches my attention as I'm more of doing sports betting. After all, we all have our own preferences.
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from my observation (I'm not saying the research guys are wrong or not) I see that sports betting and card games (poker and other card games) are the games that people get addicted to, in the case of sports betting I have seen the guys who like tennis and basketball as the biggest addicts, then we have the guys who bet on soccer, I'm not basing it on any research, this is something I've observed. Slot games get people addicted to the real world, they are like lottery that rely on luck, and tend to create more stress on people playing, also this is something I've observed, I'm not basing it on any research

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June 11, 2022, 02:36:44 PM
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It looks like a pretty detailed study but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen such a detailed study that gets it wrong. And I don't know if they are focusing on the right thing, because what is clear is that instant betting is what people are hooked on much more than it was 30 years ago. Nowadays you can bet on practically anything, at any time of the day from your mobile phone, that's what gets people hooked. Not like 30 years ago when you had to physically go to a place to bet.


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June 11, 2022, 02:38:51 PM
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Music is addictive, watching porn is addictive and everything can be addictive in someway for someone sonwe can't simply generalize the things and target particular game. Personally when I okay slots I just keel on going but I have seen people eho drown in the sport betting as well so it really depends on what kind of game they love.









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Slots are probably the worst type of gaming you can do. Terrible odds and is way too quick.  A lot of bets take a while to play out where as ots takes all of about 10 seconds to win/lose.  It's also very personal, on a group table you make different decisions than if you just play alone at a slot.  Worst part is the "possibility" of hitting the big one like a lottery.  Instant change in life effects people negatively in tes of Ampang up their addiction.  Terrible game.

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