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Looking for more crypto casino options,used to play on stake but had kyc asked over,is there any that has absolutely 0% chance of that being asked ?

ps: if you are a winning player (i know its rare or impossible) or won a big jackpot on any crypto casino, i would like some tips if you can,i can pay for your time,my telegram is @ ellieljonzz

I'm afraid I can't name any casinos that don't require KYC, but I can assure you that I respect your desire for privacy and that KYC is only used by licensed casinos. So, even if you win more money, I doubt you'll be compensated on the unregulated ones.

I wish you luck in your search for reputable companies that do not require KYC.

KYC is requested based on the action of the player if you did nothing wrong and you are following the forum rules then you are good to go, if you win a big amount and you are requested to do KYC it's just meant that they want to be sure that you will pass their criteria that you are not playing in a country where they restrict it and you are of legal age.
It's better to undergo KYC at a reputable casino than at casinos with a bad reputation because reputable casinos make sure that your information is protected because they are compliant.

You don't need to pay for someone just to tell you that every casino will do that based on the terms and agreement that you've signed up for.

I guess some decentralized casinos won't really ask you for that and that's what you need to look for. But if it's managed and owned then it's not guaranteed that they're decentralized and still, you'll be asked for kyc if they have to.

And that's based on the circumstance that you'll face depending on your results and usually if you're getting big wins then you have no other option to be verified and asked.

I have heard about decentralized gambling sites before but that has just been in theory and not in real life, or am I missing something? Can you name any decentralized gambling site that you have ever known of? Before I joined this forum, I played on betting sites like bet365 and some others but which are all centralized. Also after I joined this forum and I tried some gambling sites, they are also all centralized, but though using cryptocurrencies as a payment means.

Decentralized casino would work in a way that every money used to stake will be directly deducted from your noncustododial wallet, have you seen any gambling site like that before? I doubt that.

"Decentralized" is misused by a lot of platforms and that includes casinos offering crypto as a payment option. It's enough for them to call it as such if users can access the games with their non-custodial wallets. They don't consider the fact that they use centralized servers and they still have the "power" to block certain wallets from signing in.

One reason for Nitrobetting and Betcoin being ranked so high is that they don't do KYC unless you use a VPN.

KYC requirements comparatively
0 = never
5 = mandatory


"A" rated books
1 nitrobetting.eu (http://nitrobetting.eu)
1 betcoin.ag (http://betcoin.ag)    
1 playbetr.com (http://playbetr.com)        

"B"rated books
1 mBet.io (https://www.mBet.io) Horse racing..
3 stake.com (https://www.stake.com)

"C" rated books
2 fortunejack.com (http://fortunejack.com)
3 anonibet.com (http://anonibet.com/)  
3 sportsbet.io (http://sportsbet.io/)  
3 cloudbet.com (https://www.cloudbet.com)
2 Bitsler.com (http://Bitsler.com)
5 Btb88.com (http://Btb88.com)

For sportsbooks but they also have casinos.

It's just a KYC based on the action of the player. The casino rules allows you to play with high limits and win large amounts of money and that's the reason why they want to know who is behind their high limits games

It's not a risk for some casinos (probably), but the majority of them has it in their terms and conditions. Most of them don't specifically ask for it upon signing up though BUT they do "reserve" the right to ask for KYC whenever they want. This "whenever" is literally that since you can't really identify whether something really happened or their random "sussy" detector just somehow managed to actually hit you for no actual reason.   Well most of the time KYC happens if you win big or VPN was detected so just don't do those if you don't want KYC.

There's no risk on KYC that casinos are asking to some of their players, you'll be asked to undergo KYC if they think you are abusing or you won a huge amount of money and they want to verify your location and your legality in receiving your winning, its already stated on the majority of Cryptocurrency based casinos that they will be asked you to undergo KYC at circumstances that they set up, they are not asking KYC when you sign up only under circumstances they specify.

but their ToS says otherwise. betcoin.ag mentioned that they have the right to ask for KYC, but they never mention(or I might have missed it) anything about they'll only ask you for KYC if you use VPN. as for nitrobetting.eu, they simply said that they have the right to ask for KYC from any players.

If you don't win much money from the casino, I don't think the casino will ask you for KYC. But if you win a lot of money and want to withdraw the winning money at once, maybe they will ask you to do KYC. The risk of doing KYC at the casino will exist. For example, the casino can't keep important and confidential data from its members or run away with member data or others.

If you don't mind KYC, you can just register at multiple casinos and do KYC while continuing to gamble. However, you will bear the risk and responsibility. So it is your choice.

They all have it in their TOS but some rarely use it. Both Betcoin and Nitrobetting have been around since 2013 and seem to only ask when someone is using a VPN. Most likely to prevent a person from using multiple accounts to collect bonuses.

KYC is done only when your activity in the site triggers the safety system of the site.
This might happen when you win big or by any means you try to cheat the site.
KYC is also asked only by licensed casino, so it’s 100% safe to share your details with them, as there is no chance that they gonna leak your documents to anyone.
Moreover at the current situation, each and every reputable casinos are asking for KYC one you reach there minimum threshold to withdraw the money. If someone is claiming that they do not require KYC, then it only proves that the site isn’t trusted enough.
Rest is up to you OP.

KYC information is leaked all the time. Employees illegally sell databases. They are very valuable. If you get contacted by a gambling site that you never played at, someone sold your information.

You might want to check this thread.
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0

Just to clarify, the phrase "if needed" means that the casino isn't requiring their players to submit KYC, unless otherwise you are crossing a specific guideline as stated by their terms of service. So you are better-off reading those if you want to avoid any inconveniences in future.

As you have been told, KYC is not an all-or-nothing issue nowadays, there is a graduation. In some casinos, if you don't do anything unusual, don't use vpn or don't handle exorbitant amounts, you won't be asked for KYC. Casinos with no KYC at all are a thing of the past, it seems to me, as things stand.

There's no casino offers 0% guaranteed no KYC if they have a license since that's the requirements of AML before they can get there license. Your best chance to find that kind of casino are those completely decentralized and you don't need to create your account in able to play.

Directbet.eu is one of them but they are not operating anymore. Maybe you can browse on the Dapps part on different blockchain that focus on casino.

OP in specific have requested about the KYC on Stake. With Stake you get access to play without KYC to certain limits. When the amount is high the player will be requested to submit KYC. On the other side, the first level of KYC is the personal details, the second level is the proof of identity submission, the third level is the proof of address verification, and the last level is the details regarding the funds used for gambling. So, until and unless there arises an issue on the fund being used you won't be asked for KYC.

First of all it's better that everyone replied to you here and not personally on the telegram. Secondly there is hardly any casino which will allow you to withdraw very big amount of jackpot without the KYC. Maybe if you withdraw in small chunks you might be lucky to get away with the KYC. If you won big amount you can give your KYY to window that amount. I think it will be okay for you.

Try playing with just few amount of BTC, those casinos will not ask for KYC. But if you go to  more than what they think needs KYCing, you'll need to comply.

There are few that they consider to be "decentralized" casinos, like the exchanges that also claimed decentralized you can do transactions but you just can't trust any KYC to any platform. You would rather be going to the known licensed casino like stake if you are to send KYC.

The casino has a threshold for not asking KYC when withdrawing a fund that came from winnings.  If you win big time and the amount exceeds their non-KYC withdrawal then they have to manually verify your withdrawal that requires submission of KYC.  Aside from that, even with small wins, if the casino suspected you of fraudulent activities it will also require you to submit your KYC to verify if the person owning the account doesn't multi-account.  It is rare to find a Casino that does not require basic KYC nowadays.

Well, Freebitco.in has not asked any KYC details yet, so you can try them.... but they have very limited games to play. The problem with most of these non-KYC casinos are this :

1. They start out with zero requirements for KYC verification and once they acquired a good bankroll or user base, they dump the "illegal" players and they swap to a regulated environment. (So they are just using non-KYC gamblers to fund their goals to become legitimate)

2. A lot of scam sites do not implement KYC verification, because their final goal is to "exit scam" and they do not need the heat from regulatory authorities when that happens.

There are casinos on the market that declare that they do not require KYC, but in most cases, when you read carefully into their Terms of Service, you will find an option where they can request KYC verification. This is certainly the case with all casinos that have a license. My advice is to register with real data and then you will avoid problems in the event of a big win.

You said you will pay for their time? I'm sure many user here will going to spam you claiming that they are professional gambler but they are only after your money please don't believe those users even if they show a screenshot as they can easily edit, it is much better if you did not indicate that you are willing to pay for their time and just ask questions here directly as I am sure many players or experienced players here will answer your question.

In regards with the KYC, it is a form of security for the gambling site to verify their players and also for the player's security. Some gambling sites offer good promotion to verified users, the risk of giving KYC is giving your information away to them which they can be used to any malicious acts (Not all) so it is better to give your KYC to reputable gambling sites rather than to newly opened or unlicensed casinos.

OP another piece of advice you need to take into consideration is:

Never put your money in the casino that is in @Erdogan's signature because they are big scammers, you can lose all your money if you put money in that casino that is in @Erdogan's signature

Other advice:

If you want to use a casino then be prepared to do KYC, do not be fooled that there will be some casino that in the future will not ask you for KYC

Reputable casinos always ask for KYC especially if you win some big amounts on their platform. They ask for your identity to make sure you are not a criminal and in the right age to do gambling. Your information is only at risk when you submit it on a not well-known platform, their promotions and better chance of winning could just be a bait for them to get your identity then sell it on the black market or use it for their bad intentions.

Bear in mind that illegal data selling happens anywhere and reputable casino cant guarantee that their employees wont do that. Once you do KYC, no matter where you do it then you should be ready for the risk. It applies not only in online gambling, but in any online service including in your official government website where the data might be leaked.

Most of old time casino are been ask to require this to their platform users so its really good for many gamblers that they should accept this kind of requirements ask by a casino since the industry is evolving and their's a law will be implemented to monitor on what's happening on this industry. That's why picking up the most trusted casino is the best option so that we can lessen up our worries about possible risk on providing our KYC details to random people on internet.

I believe, we can't avoid this anymore in most licensed crypto casinos.
But this is better, rather than casinos disappearing or shutting down without a trace.
As the casinos are getting licensed, they need to abide the rules set by their gaming license.
But in some casinos, they still have the leeway not to require KYC if you are not exceeding their certain withdrawal/deposit amount.
If the OP wants to have at least peace of mind, just send your docs to casinos that you think are reputable in the community.

AFAIK only Freebitco.in is the only one casino without KYC and trustworthy so far for many years, there are many casinos that didn't ask KYC, but after someone won a jackpot, the casinos are disappearing since they don't want to pay the gambler. Any license casino will ask KYC, even though the license is completely useless since it doesn't protect the gamblers if the casino turn become scam.

Your personal information is at risk at big reputable casinos because the database is worth a lot of money and is sold. It's best to play at casinos without KYC.

Thanks for the replies guys,so about stake or any other casino that has those kind of "kyc triggers" is there a specif value that make them ask for kyc ? above $10k or something like that ?

It's different at each casino but the guide in post #7 shows how likely you are to get KYC.

Kyc is normal and legit on casino, people should not just deceive themselves think they are going for no KYC casino sites, they can one day ask for KYC, they can also ask for KYC at any point in time, just like you said, if large amount is won, the gamble site may be more hesitant to released the money or not release it easily and KYC is one of their tools.

You can give examples of betting site that are decentralized like decentralized exchanges, people said they are existing but they are not naming any.

Stake request for KYC during deposit, not during withdrawal.

don't worry we answer you as we can, just keep your money safe.

this Is for example: if you have a gambling site (let's try to be the owner) and your customer wants to withdraw a big amount of money, and for this situation, you still doubt if this is really your customer (because you frequently hear hacking gambling site), so what can you do?, cancel the withdrawal or do for complete KYC?.

Each casino do have different price would trigger their system to ask KYC, the bigger casino is, the bigger amount they will ask it. Since Stake is really big casino and you get asked to provide KYC, I'm 100% sure other online casinos will ask your KYC even your wager are less than in Stake.

good analogy.

OP, should now know how important KYC is in casinos. Even using the same IP and device can also be categorized as suspicious behavior for some casinos.
I don't know why the OP is afraid to give his data to the casino. but if you feel uncomfortable playing at the casino because of KYC, I hope, you will find a place to play gambling that suits your passion.

I'm curious why you desire a casino that when you win big then you get get your profit as expected because of delay with excuses trying to cheat you? I understand also that the nature of cryptocurrency is suppose to have everything decentralised but this is about playing for doubling your money. Any reason for this or you don't mind if they cheat you?

I have not heard of a single crypto gambling site that doesn't require KYC at all. They usually ask for KYC for various reasons which is why it's very difficult to find one that will never ask for KYC op.

However, you can try using betting exchanges like Fairlay which will never ask for KYC and won't care if you win consistently since they earn their profit from commissions on player bets.

The risk of doing kyc on crypto casinos is pretty much the same as doing it on any other website, not just for online gambling. Although some online gambling websites are sketchier and shadier than others.

There are a few good online gambling websites that do not ask for KYC. But I think if anything were to happen to your funds, good luck proving its your money and nobody elses...

So its a double-edged sword as you see. But I still would not feel comfortable with giving random strangers my private documents.

That being said, this entire thread looks like an attempt to fish out and identify people with large amounts of money. I would not recommend anyone to contact OP on Telegram or anywhere else. There might be a chance you get scammed.

Any casino that requests user personal data completes KYC when an activity is deemed suspicious. Casino compliance with the rules is number 1 to keep them operating as planned. Decentralized crypto casinos don't require you to be KYC compliant if: you're in a non-banned location, if your bet doesn't exceed the max for non KYC members, if you don't use multiple accounts, if you don't abuse promotions and so on.

So no need to pay someone for this kind of thing, make sure you really read all the rules that apply.

did you want to strictly tell me that without KYC with the any casino game then you will not be able to withdraw all your game or all your entitlement. I know where that I don't play casino like that what I have the play knowledge or understanding is soccer betting sites they don't have to do any KYC before you cash out or withdraw your money so all those sites that have kyc verification i might say they are entitled to patterned with because of security function

I'm okay with casinos imposing KYC as long as it's not intrusive and as basic as it can get. Advanced KYC should be imposed on players with huge jackpots only for verification purposes and that's it. I'm wary of giving out so much information to a third-party even if they say that they won't sell what they received. Read a lot of issues concerning this topic over the past few years and it certainly isn't helping in any way to renew people's confidence on KYC.

Passing KYC is always risky.Be it gambling site or any other site. However, it is more risky if it is cryptocurrency related. Your documents should be kept as secret as possible. If you do not make large transactions.  And if it does not exceed the limit of kyc verification. Then always avoid kyc. But if it is mandatory for you.  Then you are obliged to do so if you want to use the services of that site

Most of the big casinos are going to ask you for the KYC, it might be because of security reasons or it might also be for government policies as well therefore i won't recommend you going around looking for casinos without KYC, choose good casinos and see if they have options of no KYC, you can also go to blackjack.fun and see and play there, they would let you play without KYC as well, other than that what are the chances of you actually finding a winning player! It's all about luck, go to the sports section and you would be able to see many people who profit out of it as well and are quite regular in the meta threads.

Well, the thing is that there are actually some casinos I know of that doesn't require kyc, at least, they have never asked me for kyc since I started playing there, but another thing is that I've never won any big amount of money, so i cant really say for sure because I know that most casinos don't ask for kyc as long as you keep winning small amount of money, but they always turn out to ask for kyc verification as soon as you win big amount of money.
My only advice is that you shouldn't trust any casino that tells you they don't require or ask for kyc, this is because this thing they say is nothing but one their marketing strategy, so always get your documents ready incase you win a big amount of money and they ask you to pass kyc verification before you can withdraw.

KYC had been major problem why gamblers are not always interested in many of the gambling platforms I know because especially the rich gamblers that do not like giving out their identity on net for nothing. Gambling platform without KYC will have more costumers than the ones that do require KYC especially if they have the same features and reputations.

IIRC, edgeless and earnbet were the known ones before but I don't know where they are right now and if they have sticked to that status of being decentralized.

And to tell about decentralized as a description for a casino. If you go and search for it, they'll show you the centralized ones. I guess these reviewers have already that knowledge that when people tell decentralized then it means to them that it's about blockchain.

There's that misunderstanding on that part and that's why some articles won't be helpful enough if someone really tries to find one these days. And I think that's also the same as before that when we believe that a casino was decentralized, it's all just about the description but not the actual.

What you needed to understand here is that we have two categories of casino games which are basically the kyc and non kyc casinos, what you want now determines the fate of your choice taken, many fails to understand the need for kyc as an unnecessary demand sonce many gamblers would love to protect their identity even while enjoying the beauty of the games played, once a thorough research is carried out on a casino to know weather it requires kyc or not thennit should be able to suit the gambler desired purpose.

I don't think is every player that KYC is requested from as some casino only requires verification from certain users who may either violate their rule or want to withdraw a big amount which needs to go through some verification. But if you are clean without any criminal behavior you should care less about kyc.

The problem is that the person will KYC in an anonymous casino and where the owners of the casino are anonymous and the person does not know where his document will be kept, and if one day the casino sells his documents and if a criminal buys the documents and commits some crime? I think this KYC question should only be used in serious cases where someone is suspected of having too many accounts and would be abusing bonuses. because someone's documents are something very sensitive and should be handled in a very responsible way

Isn't the risk same with us doing KYC on other platforms besides gambling?
The security of our data is questionable and whether they guarantee it.
Moreover, there is a lot of negative news related to data sales, data hacks and also security systems on certain platforms.
Not only that, there are many people who want to do Gambling without knowing their identity, but with the existence of KYC, this is not in line with expectations, right?

But, unfortunately, many trusted and reoutable gambling platforms right now need KYC due to hthe policy terms and TOS.

that's the dilemma of some users, where will their details will end up with. we can never tell what's gonna be after few years from now. can be sold in the darknet or who knows where.. anyway if you trust the casino, you won't be too worried about what will happen to your private details. but as much as possible, just send your kyc in casinos that you truly trust and has very credible reputation in the community.

In the early beginning of crypto-casinos and till a certain time there was lot that don't require KYC nor any personal information, this was kind a criteria..  But this was before government started regulating crypto-currencies, then all institutions had to comply with AML AMF laws.

a simple example of a technique that can be used for launder money is placing bets on all results of a event with equal odds, of course not from the same account, even in different bookmakers.. as there's equal odds you sure to recover your money minus bookmaker fees.. then you can claim that you won that amount by gambling !
 
So following the regulations when exceeding the threshold limit they have to register your informations and save them  for the authorities.





 then but..  that mean that "YOUR" funds are keept restricted from you,  so the question is do when you play and lose money it is all good, till you win ! ??

 In addition that some users are just not comfortable with providing personal informations to any service they want to use and so

 Thing understandable following the risks behind this, especially the fact anyone that can access the database, (from inside,  from a hack .. ) can have a fraudulent or non-consented use of your infos and documents !


 So I'm wondering why there is not such unique aggregated service where you can register/verify your ID and infos and provide you with a unique key/identifient for identifying in those casinos / services ..  !?

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 Writing this message and I remembered the very old site ( https://777coin.com (https://777coin.com) ), they don't seems requiring any KYC or personal info yet !  Thing surprising!  :o    ( and they have pretty good games :) )

If someone is interested registering under my refferal just PM me !   ;D (nevermind, just a little wink to some moderators of this boad) :P

You might be too cautious on your data privacy when providing KYC documentation on a gambling platform. However you must also understand why the platform requested you to do it as there are rules and banning on certain countries that might get their platform on jeopardy. Just as you've mentioned, there are some platform that really doesn't require  KYC as long as you will not be subjected to suspicious activity such as huge bets, usage of VPN and other activities whereas you might have violate the platform's rule.

Also, I doubt that the platform will not be liable in case that you will be able to prove that they've used or sold your documents without your knowledge.

Is there any particular reason why you don't want to use KYC? I am not sure if there is a 100% guarantee that a casino will not ask for it. In case the casino notices some red flags with your account they will always ask for some documentation, it's to protect them. KYC became the norm for many casinos when doing larger withdraws, I kind of got used to it. As long as it's a trust worthy casino that has been around for some time, I don't mind sharing my data. So far I had never any issues with it.
What kind of tips are you looking for? Strategies for slots or dice? I would be careful with paying someone for such general games, there is a high risk you end up being targeted by a scammer who only wants to take your money. There is a lot of randomness and luck involved in gambling and there is not the one perfect strategy.

You should avoid asking people here to PM you in telegram  because for sure more on Scammers that will come your way than legit one, and also if you wanted some tips , then best to ask here directly and let the answers comes here than in private messages.

and about KYC? no one can assure you of something here because all gambling site will ask you whenever there is a chances so let it be there  and you will encounter such  maybe not now but in the future.

- Yes, it was too hard to trust people sending you PM via telegram, this is what I worried about to OP. Possible he might fall into the wrong hands.

-Well, to say how KYC is a big issue not only in gambling but also in exchanges. Something like people hate this too much but guess what, I'd find this helpful on their end to catch abusive players and take advantage of given bonuses. Maybe we have to embrace the fact that we need to comply with KYC but if not, I guess we move on and stop online gambling.

so still not 100% certain that they will not ask for KYC for some reason. also, maybe there have been cases where they ask for KYC not just because the gambler used VPN and it was just not reported. anyway, it'll be up to OP if he considers your suggestion, I just pointed out that their KYC never mentioned that you have to use VPN in order to be asked for KYC.

Not all casinos will ask KYC when you create an account. Some casinos will only ask KYC if your account is suspicious of something illegal or not allowed on their casino and also when you are a big time gambler on their casino. Reason why they ask KYC is to avoid money laundering which I am sure you know that it is illegal. You can read it on their casino why they require KYC. Try to check this thread and see if you find what you are looking for. Here's the thread Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0). Good Luck from Nakamura12.

Like what you said above , it is rare or impossible if you are a winning player so by any chance you already knew that there is nothing we can mention because all online casino will require you KYC in whatever they wanted to ask and that is the situation in gambling since the abusing and cheating take place, casino nowadays are more vigilant and monitoring each accounts activities for possible abusing.

When casinos pay out jackpots or huge prizes, arent they obliged to give such information to tax authorities? Sure they need to point such winning in their own declaration, otherwise they would have to pay huge income tax. Without information about the winner, the chain of information wont be full. That is why, if you aim to get rich via gambling, get ready to lose anonymity. Or risk gambling in partly white, partly shady casinos.

That's right because they need to have that to get proper documentation on the winners side so that they will not get penalized for not reporting a huge win happen to their casino  that's why gamblers should prepared about this since we might encounter this to some casino since this is already becoming normal now on several trusted casino's. If we want to play gambling we should also include the KYC requirements because we cannot get away with it so pick the best casino to avoid any risk of identity theft issues.

Yes, using vpn is not a problem on gaming sites. But if they do not claim kyc for deposits and withdrawals then the service of the site can be enjoyed using vpn. But it should be noted that large amount cannot be deposited and if large amount is won, it should be withdrawn from there immediately for safety

Actually, it is a problem to the platform if they VPN user is from a restricted country where online gambling is illegal and prohibited. Some Gambling platforms may not require they're users to do the KYC process however they are obligated to do so once the platform require you too especially if they have detected suspicious activity on your account such as usage of VPN. But still if you're on an unrestricted country then you have no problem doing KYC as they'll let you off the hook and continue playing.

As long as a casino site is reputable and trusted, you don't have to doubt or feel bothered if they require KYC. You can check their trust rate and legitimacy to see if they're reputable so you can entrust your personal details. If you aren't really comfortable with it, you can look for casinos that aren't strict when it comes to KYC but you still have to check their legitimacy.

Not all casino but mostly, but I do recommend the OP to pass that KYC because that's for his/her own good and the casino is just making sure that their rules are strictly met and you're not just a random kid who's way below the legal age to play in casinos. Anyway, you won't have to be afraid if you're not guilty of something. Just be careful giving your details though, and if KYC is asked, make sure it's a reputable casino so that your information is safe.

I don't know exactly how important it is to do KYC where you will be betting on the gaming side There are some sites where you are offered KYC compulsory. If KYC is done, the betting site seems to be very strong. And if you win your own jackpot, then of course you can do KYC and then take the jackpot in hand.There are various sites besides KYC where you do not need to verify any KYC.

I played on some casino that is advertised as decentralized and luckily till now I haven't got a KYC request from them. I've seen some "decentralized" casino that is asking for KYC after a player win a large amount of money from them, I think a casino who is advertise as decentralized only ask KYC when there's a system flagged a certain player.
It's hard to find a true decentralized casino with 0 chance of asking KYC but this list posted can help and also make sure to and follow their TOS you agreed before you play so you can dodge that KYC request. 

I don't know what you mean by huge but I think there should be a limit for non-kyc accounts instead of asking for papers that you will submit and still reject it, so that you wouldn't be able to withdraw the winnings, using exchanges for example that doesn't require KYC usually limit withdrawal limit of 100 BTC within 24hours and after that, you have another reset time to redraw more continuously. If exchanges can do that, why wouldn't casinos do the same or is it because gambling is subjected to luck and excess winnings? exchanges have turned ordinary $100 to thousands and don't request for additional documents when customers feel to withdraw their money.

You may find one that will not ask you KYC, but the reputation of that casino is questionable, reputable casinos that asked for KYC are compliant with their license, they asked this randomly for people who they think are cheating their system and they also ask this for huge winnings and questionable deposits to make sure that you comply to their terms


There are a lot of tips that you can use it's available on Youtube and articles online but it's never a guarantee that you can win, those huge winners still rely on luck to win you're just wasting your money on tips that will not work 100%.

Any online gambling casino which is dodging laws and regulations concerning how their gambling casino must be run can obviously only be considered dodgy. What if they run away with your money? What if the government takes them down and freezes your funds? There is too much risk involved in non kyc casinos. And even more so if the casino is new and has absolutely no reputation yet whatsoever.

Personally, I do not like KYC. But only because I have a very distrustful nature and do not want to show strangers my official documents.

That's some risk to consider. Apparently, you've got to pick a side where you walk and the strategy to which, you could be about and be safe while operating on certain platforms. I haven't considered most of what you stated on the negativity that could amount to non kyc enabled casinos. Although, this has very much not been an issue as, its often a requirement backed by the terms and conditions should matters to its necessity arise. Be that as it may, one is more frequent than the other and that is in terms of hack and abuse that eventually turns some platforms to scams. KYC doesn't go so well to me and I avoid having huge funds where it doesn't need be.

Some of the gambling casino required a KYC verification for the users who deposits at the same time of current playing makes a gain a huge amount and then want to make an immediate withdrawal I suggest not to make it withdraw already because they think there's a suspicious activity with it. Also besides from stake, there is another platform here in the forum that does not require a KYC. In the same way here I don't like having a KYC because the identity and information are more valuable than a small number of funds.

If you do deal with pure crypto casino then theres no asking about kyc or verification but you should mind that it is included into their terms about possiblity of been requiring whenever they do see some shady or irregularities of some player in terms of their gambling activity.We know that even gambling casinos we do have today are centralized and regulated which does simply means that they are really indeed abiding some certain rules plus they do have the full rights on doing something according or in line with their terms so don't get
Surprised.

If I'm not mistaken, freebitco.in does not implement KYC. It's just one among very few casinos that are said to implement absolutely no KYC. Although I don't guarantee that they don't really implement KYC whatever happens. After all, they are still legally operating business entities.

The rest of the casinos don't really demand KYC as a matter of basic requirement. It is just that they all have KYC triggers. These triggers vary from one casino to another and they also ask different information.

Also agree on this point , the casino site needs clarification for this as they need to pay tax and have also some incentives for that same matter.
the problem only here are those people tend not to understand the meaning of KYC instead they keep attacking the system or the casino that implement this but where in the world that there is a Legit Business that does not pay taxes?
people nowadays need to understand the points and not just looking for tricks from casino sites.

I am not 100% sure, but difference between gambling and exchanges lies in licenses. From bookkeeping position, any huge amount can not be put in "other short term liabilities" or into similar "other assets". Any auditor will ask for a detailed decoding of that, detailed info of creditors. They cant put just "user12345" or "Cookdata" there. I know that casinos use KYC to put on pause withdrawal or even to cheat a gambler. Passing KYC there is stupid. But passing KYC in a reputed casino is something that looks ok to me, but I will try to avoid doing that at any cost.

When you buy groceries at a grocery store, the store has to pay taxes. You don't have to give them your personal information although many want that information. Even if a book is reputable, if they have a lot of players, that player list will be sold because it's worth a lot of money.

I believe that the reasons for KYC is not only to determine the country one is playing from. Whether it is restricted or not. Some people access these casinos through vpn or Tor browser. But if you use this method and win big, and by mistake some of these casinos understand that your country is restricted, they will capitalization there and deny you payment.

Another reason for KYC might be to regulate multiple account opening as opposed to the rule of casino . So any company that doesn't apply kyc may find it difficult to regulate some certain conditions. Yet some say they use kyc to determine the age of the gamblers. All things together, yet there are companies that doesn't apply kyc.

Yes, and those are one of the reasons why freebitcoin has so much traffic, but if they can, why don't others try to go that way, maybe right now it doesn't matter much for people to leave their data on these platforms, but I'm totally sure that in the future there will be a type of law that forces these sites to implement KYC, this is where the weight of every site will be seen to what extent it is capable of resisting any type of snatch that they want to do to it, maybe the site for being one of the oldest they allow that detail, but I see it difficult, depending on how everything is going, I think that anonymity and privacy are going to be extinguished, it is something dark, but everything goes in that way.

These are very good points. Don't use a VPN and make withdrawals from the same IP that you use to deposit and make most of your wagers. Some casinos will never bother you if done this way. Others will hit you with KYC sooner or later no matter what you do.

There are tons of gambling websites that do not require any KYC in their system.

Generally, gambling websites do not request for KYC documents as this would somehow ruin and damage the number of potential gamblers registering under their website. Though this may be the case, these casinos that require KYC are mandated by their respective laws to provide such for their protection and regulation. But generally, these websites that require are far more secure and relatively safer compared to other gambling websites that do not request for such.

Check the gambling boards and ask around their respective boards if they require KYC on their website.

Many crypto casinos don't require KYC, but they aren't among the most popular sites, consequently I can't say with assurance how safe and legit it is to play on them, except freebitco.in that is constantly active on this forum, runs a signature campaign, is working since 2013 without issues and has millions of users on the website.
It makes me believe it might be a good option for you, although there isn't variety of games and the house edge is superior to another gambling sites. You may take advantage of the promotions that are launched every few days, though. Check their twitter for recent updates.

That was indeed the case in the past, when you could gamble at almost every crypto casino without complying with the KYC rules. Unfortunately, the rules are now stricter. I think you can only get out of KYC if you join a betting site based in Costa Rica. If you play at Curacao, Malta or UK commission you can set your own schedule to be subject to the KYC sooner or later. But, there are exceptions of course for gambling sites that do not ask this.

Basing on the current situation here on crypto gambling space then majority of sites or platforms doesn't really ask out for some verification aside from Roobet or others which do ask out some light kyc but still not really that appealing for most people who do really value anonymity but basing on the number of sites available today then we could still have lots of options to take but expect those things in upcoming years where everything will be more strict since these platforms are centralized.

Yes, I do notice that even if some of these casinos have Curacao gaming license or other gambling license, they are not very strict of requiring KYC.
However, as a gambler, particularly those high rollers, you should expect that the casino may ask KYC any time.
So before you enter your details, make sure those information are the same with your valid ID, if in case the site will ask in the future.
Because if not, that may cause trouble on your part. And you may not get your funds, if there's any, if your info submitted doesn't match with your valid ID submitted.

First, a gambler needs to decide before registration at any casino whether or not their ok with KYC not, but the most decentralized casino does not require KYC that is when your withdrawal is in small amounts but KYC may be demanded when the withdrawal is above $5k.

I'm not sure what you mean about other short term liabilities but I know very well the difference between exchange and gambling. However, they all have to do with financing and thus, regulations will always want to know every details of what happened behind the scenes.
We have exchanges that are globally experience, well known but doesn't request for KYC and allow inflow and outflow of money without request of any kind of documents though it's limited, why can't some casino build the same thing. There should be freedom to gamble, not as if physical gambling house do request for information before they allow people to play, as long as you win, you will get paid with out foul play.

If a gambler won in one of the best licence reputable casino and asked for the KYC verification I think it's normal to undergo KYC because of some private information but not too much. If I am won a big money in most reputable and legit casino then it's okay for me to answer their KYC, but in the new casino without any assurances that we can get our profit even if we answer their KYC for me I don't take a risk.

Not all Stake.com players are being asked it's not mandatory its when they detect something unusual on your account, or if you win a huge amount and want to make sure that you are not underage and you are not located in a restricted area, it is an industry practice and every reputable casino adhere to this policy of their license issuer.


You can do that on sports betting but on luck-based games, I don't think there are tips that guaranteed you to win, the winner will just tell you if you are lucky

Nowadays even you're not a big time gambler, there's always a possibility for casinos to ask for kyc, so expect it to happen anytime. Like if you win huge amount, they might ask for kyc to be certain you got it legitimately and you're not playing in restricted area. Its a must to submit a real information to avoid getting problem incase they'll ask for your IDs for verification.

It is not a problem if we choice a trusted and popular Casino. Then we can pass KYC . Then there will be no fear of KYC Documents being stolen. But we should not pass KYC in the new Casino. Who is casino come on the online for few days. It has a risk for us. They can do business by selling our KYC documents on black market

Wrong mate, Yeah they might not ask for a while or when you are just depositing and playing but when you experience Winning specially when the amount is high ? then the problem will start and even decentralized casino will ask for your details before letting you withdraw .
and sometimes this has been used to prolong your waking money so they can use the funds for other support.
so never rely in any site that does not ask KYC because eventually surely they will.

Or at casinos based in nowhere (casinos without licenses to operate)... That is the case of some crypto casinos I have found when searching if they really existed, but I think it doesn't worth to mention their names at all, otherwise I'm going to give them more visibility among gamblers (that is actually pretty low). It's safer to stick with crypto casinos which have built their reputation along the years side by side with the gambling community. Unknown casinos without advertisements and feedbacks are dangerous to deposit money, that even if they don't ask for KYC, it isn't an advantange after all.

No one is forcing us to conduct KYC because we can choose for tons of gambling sites  to play  so if you wanted a KYC verification site then join and play in those sites , but if not then go to another as simple as that.

I tend to play in gambling site that has KYC verification like Roobet because it is a trusted site for me and had been plating in that site for more than 3 years now and still not experiencing any issue.

but what can we get from that? denying KYC will only prolong the process and in the first place , Why need to play in new casino and risk this withdrawal when we can just choose playing in reputable and long running casinos?
this is the problem if we love exploring gambling places and come to new sites in which there is assurance   of what we can take from them .
just focus in  playing in legit casino and try to prevent from dealing in new one.

Many gambling platforms are using KYC to deprived gamblers of their high wins where by they would demand for KYC and if the gambling does not want to submit KYC, the fund will be withheld from them. I don't really like Casino that do request for KYC because they can use it against us anytime. I prefer now KYC gambling platform where our identity would not be required. It makes things easy for everyone.

KYC may be applied if the gambler wins a large amount, which is already the case in many casinos. We have seen that many of them have to submit documents to the casino to exceed the limit set by the casino. If you don't really like casinos that ask for KYC, I think you should be able to limit yourself to not going over the limits of the casino. It is natural for casinos to ask for KYC from gamblers who want to withdraw big money from their place.

Due to prevent suspicious activity some of the gambling casinos required a KYC for the users they think it is something that happens such as getting a huge amount of winning after making the first deposit and would like to immediately request a withdrawal. It is more ideal if don't make a immediately withdrawal because of course the gambling casino think you might abuse their system.

As for me - KYC is not a problem for the most of the gamblers. It can become problem if you are breaking the law, but in such situation everything can become a problem. But you have positive moments due KYC. The casino can`t freeze your withdrawal "because you is a strange man" for example. And with big money KYC mostly helps you and defends you.

Exactly, casino usually require it also for check if you aren't a bonus abuser. More often this happen, that a user do more registration and try to abuse on a bonus in way to have as many advantages as possible. That's why

a lot of gambling sites ask for a KYC. And also, as you've said, in case of big winnings (In case of big winnings I'd give with many pleasure my ID  ;D)

There are general requirements for legal gambling platforms and companies operating in this industry are legally required to verify user data, such as identity, age, address, source of funds, in order to protect their users and the platform from fraud, as well as to prevent money laundering. In addition, many online casinos want to be able to flag suspicious users, users suffering from gambling addiction and to prevent the creation of multiple accounts.

Misuse of multiple accounts to get signup bonuses is strictly prohibited on various gambling platforms, I think that is a very logical part of one of the reasons it is prohibited to use multiple accounts. Maybe Implementing KYC in casinos does not reduce the value of account anonymity as personal data is only for internal verification of the casino platform team, so you should be selective in providing KYC to casinos you trust and many members are active gamblers.

Any legitimate casino today requires some form of KYC. You can't really escape it unless you are willing to play with some less reputable, shady casino. Not just 'take KYC or scram' attitude but this is for your own good. You wouldn't want to be in a casino where bots are infested and abuse ref, promotion program.

KYC covers both the safety of the users and the casino site. Others are seeing it as a risky thing because of the thought of an information breach but so far, I haven't heard any complaints about those who complied with the KYC requirements on reputable sites. As long as we are not breaking their TOS and we're on the trusted site our KYCs are safe.

That's right. A player must think about the security of his/her fund and account. There are many reasons why gamblers are not interested in doing Kyc. Many people are interested in kyc for fear of personal information being leaked for any reason. Because crypto users always want to avoid kyc, so they prefer to go the other way. But gamblers should also keep in mind the benefits that can be found in a reputed casino, you won't find that in those low quality, risky casinos.

Right now I only know 1 casino that doesn't ask for KYC and that one is Just-Dice, there you can depo and withdraw any amount without any problems, and since it uses clam coin which has 1-minute blocks the deposits and withdrawals are really fast.

The only problem is they only have dice as the game, so, if you want to play slots or bet on sports you will have to be ready to give your credentials in other casinos.

KYC is the main skepticism crypto users have to take if they want to enjoy a centralized service like a licensed casino.

Answering the question in the title, the obvious main risks (from the user's side) are abuse and privacy. The abuse I mean is that even though the casino says the collection of user identities will be used for the purposes stated in the policy, they don't really guarantee that every element of the company can comply with the rules. I have heard several times about cases of selling user identities by an employee at a large company.

As for privacy threats, we need to revisit the true features of crypto which are decentralized and uncensored. To be honest when the concept of bitcoin was introduced, casino players were like getting a drop of water in a barren desert. Especially for those where gambling is prohibited in their country, bitcoin is a (at least) risk-free solution to betting without being recognized. Slowly KYC began to be implemented in crypto casino companies which indirectly (slowly) removed the freedom of gamblers.

KYC is not a problem if manage properly but you can't speak for every gambler because the last time i checked some gamblers still make privacy their top priority.
Meanwhile, almost all casinos are implementing KYC now and it is all because of their master license holder rules and regulations.

Like i said if managed properly and thats KYC can still be a problem if the user doesn't break any law. What i am talking about is the users data falling into the wrong hands or there's a data breach just like the one that happened to Ledger wallet.

KYC is introduced to help the casino stay out of trouble with the authority and to prevent them from supporting online theft.

Correct. But have you tried to buy items in a grocery store for 2000 EUR at once? I dont know how things are done in your country, but in my, if you buy an item that cost +1000 EUR, you will be asked to provide your ID. Dont know real reason why they ask to do that, maybe due to carders "pwning" shows with stolen cards.

I will repeat - if you aim to get a jackpot or win hundred thousand or millions, get ready to pass KYC and it absolutely ok for them to ask for KYC. But if you win 10 bucks and forced to pass KYC, screw this casino :D

You are right, as long as the casino has a pretty good reputation and you as a user don't violate the applicable rules then I also haven't found any serious complaints regarding the misuse of data from casinos after they have complied with KYC. People preferences will definitely vary because not everyone likes KYC and it is more principled to remain anonymous. But over time, every operating casino gets legal advice to enforce KYC in order to minimize the abuse of fraudsters.

Most online casinos that are regulatory compliance have mandated their members to go through kyc processing which is a result of rampant money laundering and misuse of the casino bonus system, so if you have a good and reputable casino your identity is safe with them and you have nothing to worry about kyc.

What I know is that stake don't mandate a kyc but why you are being ask to do so anyway? Have you won a big jackpot lately? Or maybe you have done something which isn't right according to their tos? Stake is a licensed casino so there's a possibility that they will be asking it even if they didn't state it on their rules but you can try playing on an unlicensed casino although the risk of being scammed is also high as the majority of them are not rated or they are unpopular.

If I were you I will just faced it. Just do a kyc if you believe that you are clean. This site is trusted so you don't worry about your kyc, they won't leak or sold it elsewhere.

I think that the risk of KYC is always present not only in casinos but also in any business that has to comply with the financial regulations. You have to provide quite personal information to a number of institutions for many usual things in life and if they leak, there may not even be a way to determine where the leak came from. I tend to mark passport pictures with a watermark, so if they end up the dark web, there is a chance to know the origin.

^You have a good point here the same on some exchanges that I encountered when submitting my ID as a part of the KYC verification.
It indicates there the name of the exchange or company and the date when your picture was taken. Probably in that case you are safe from a possible leak in the future because your documents cannot be sold on the dark web because it has a watermark. Submitting your personal documents online is always a risky part, if you are a high-profile person, probably don't go for KYC.

Yes, it is. The same time we gives our personal data to huge quantity of companies without any fears and doubts and after that hears that our data were stolen. Of course KYC in noname casino can be used just to get you data, but i think we are talking about big casinos.


As i answered @Cling18 - you everyday give your personal data to different companies that sometimes being hacked, but no one speaks about it - everyone talks about KYC.

A lot of reputable casino are asking for KYC. But most of them do not implement it to every user they have.
Some of the reasons they would ask you for KYC is because:

• Your balance came from a bonus and you won bigger than usual from it.
• Even though you did not get any bonus from them, and were able to win a huge hit and decided to request a withdrawal of also a large amount.
• You deposited large sum of money and lately request a withdrawal

some people don't want to KYC in the crypto sector because their profile is associated with "big" crypto transactions, or they were active during early days. maybe they have not a single satoshi (nowadays), but they are "well known" as whales ::) and this can be a potential issue.

In the past there have been cases of kidnapping or violence against individuals who fell into this category.
It is normal that there is a certain reluctance to provide personal information about it, or at least to limit as much as possible the information that is provided even to companies with a certain reputation.

No, people do talk about it, and if not the OP of this thread won't have asked the question. I guess people seem to accept the fact that KYC will come into the picture when cryptocurrency gets more exposure.
Having said that, doing KYC is not the problem but user private data falling into the wrong hand is the major problem, and my advice to people is that if they must do KYC it must be with a reputable casino with good history.

Just find the homeless in your city with id, give him 20 bucks and bam u r verified

from my aspect of reasoning the important of KYC verification in any platforms is to sincere know each of the customer documentary, if really they  are guine. In my own aspect of understanding what is kyc I know that kyc it's when you verify account and if you happen to win a large amount of money there will be no doubt not to forget you the amount of money you needed or you win so that is to show you that you are the original person to be credited 3 kyc document verification we will be officially known

That is the last and worst thing you would want to do, and I will list the reasons why.

1- The person that provides you with the documents can always claim back the account by proving his identity to the casino and you are at the risk of not just losing your account but also any balance and winnings.

2- The casino might ask for further verification like skype call or selfie and you would struggle to get that arranged from the homeless man, unless you have some kind of subscription deal and paying him every month lol

3- In case the person sells his ID to someone else and by chance he creates an account on the same site as you already did, you are a toast.

It's always better to take a stand and either provide your own documents or just stay away from those asking for KYC verification. Using someone else's documents or trying to evade the process will only land you in more trouble, sooner or later.

It's always good to read the TOS of the casino before joining to understand whether or not KYC can be requested and when. Mostly casinos don't ask for KYC unless you have managed to land a humongous win or you have cheated the casino in any way be it glitches, bugs or some kind of money laundering involvement.

I would recommend you to check BTCGOSU, a really nice review site that clearly mentions whether a casino requires KYC or not and you can find out without having to go through the long T&C.

Nowadays more and more crypto casinos are asking for KYC and that may have to do with the increasing licensing and regulation of the crypto casinos. Earlier when only a handful of casinos existed like PrimeDice there was no need for KYC ever. There used to be directbet that allowed gambling without any account so KYC was never an option in such times but now things are getting more and more regulated.

There is always a risk of KYC eventually being required. You will find that most casinos start off small and are a little bit flexible, they draw in customers by being under the radar of regulators. They use zero KYC as a selling point and it helps because they don't necessarily have the means to validate them anyway. However once these companies reach a certain threshold, if they start using certain payment processors or third party systems (like support or security) then they will realize that KYC is essential to grow. At that point they will jettison the certain group of users who adamantly avoid KYC in return for the legitimacy it offers when trying to move into certain markets. Even if it just means they can advertise on a big scale in a country which they don't operate in, you're talking big money at stake.

This looks easy but seriously it is still not safe especially if the site asked for other legal documents and you might be on a bigger trouble later on. Using other information just to register on that site doesn’t look safe for me, because they can have the chance to access your account and of course you can’t raise concern right away because its not your own identity. KYC is risky for a new site, but if the gambling site is reputable I guess passing the KYC level 1 is not a problem anymore.

Yes unfortunately, many casinos right now need KYC. They do it not only based on restirctions for certain countries. But also to decrease the frauds.
But,, KYC in all things are risky. We are not sure that they will keep our data exactly safe. We cannot believe them 109% that they will not use our data for certain significance. Or we are also afraid that our data will be stolen and used for crimes.
That is why it is better to find non kyc right? I think that FreeBitco is one of them that doesn't need KYC. And this is a big site, right?

For complying the law it means that most of them are regulated so we can assure that our data is safe if we play on government compliance casino. That's why picking a trusted and long time running casino is vital so that we will not fall on a small ones fishing only the identity of the people. If we are afraid to all of this we better stop gambling since its a sign that we don't accept the risk beneath on what we are doing.

to limit your exposure to possible unseen circumstances, make sure to submit your kyc in very few gambling sites that you think worth sending your details because you will be an active player on their site. don't just send your docs because of your impulsive decision. weigh your options and much better if you will only submit to selected casinos. as we have no clue where will our data will end up with, we only hope that they will not be used to other purposes.
yes, freebitco doesn't need kyc up until now. but don't know if they are requiring their high rollers. but haven't read anything about it.

^^
The problem here is that even if the casino can be trusted and we are one hundred percent sure they are not going to sell our documents or use them for bad purposes, there is still the possibility the casino website get hacked and its database alongside with our documents gets leaked.
I would recommend only sending your documents to a trusted website and make sure they know how to keep them safe (by encrypting them for example).

This is unlikely, casinos know that players do not want to go through KYC as the majority of them put a huge value on keeping their privacy, however this does not mean that you are not going to eventually face a KYC request as maybe there is a suspicious activity in your account, you are using a VPN, you are suspected of having multiple accounts or simply your bets are too big and casinos are forced to verify your identity, however the majority of gamblers out there have never faced any KYC request as they do not fall into a single one of the categories which will require them to go through such a verification process.

In all the countries where casinos are legalized, the government collects taxes from the casinos. If anyone gets a jackpot or big amount of money, they usually have to pay tax to the government. That's why KYC is mandatory in all those casinos especially for well know casino. I think a professional gambler should do it. But of course it is better to do KYC in a good quality casino where professional gamblers information will be protected.

Some gambling casino does not use this kind of KYC mandatory to the people who make a huge win if they are actively playing but if the player just created an account and make a hit of jackpot they will think it is ideal to submit a KYC because might probably abuse like bonuses to the new accounts and make a huge win because of the first games of them. Also KYC has a lot of benefits to the player for their security and transactions there's no limiting of it because they are verified.

That's what casinos want, so they ask their members for KYC, especially those who won a lot of money and want to withdraw it. Casinos don't want to get involved with any illegal cases. Hence, they do that because regulators also supervise casinos and maybe casinos should also report them to regulators if they find illegal activities in their casinos. So that's why casinos ask for KYC but if you don't win a lot of money, casinos don't ask for KYC right now but maybe sometime in the future.

Not easy as it sounds though, yes, there could be homeless people around by do they have id to begin with?

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So it's either you don't want to send your personal info for KYC and not circumvent on it, or just look for other options, casinos that don't require KYC. For sure there are still that exist, and maybe just a phone number to verify (you can buy disposable SIM card) and your identity is still protected.

There is None mate as Far as i understand , and  besides if you are not contented in one of the oldest casino here in Crypto in which STAKE.com  then what else can we offer you?

So you know and understand what is the situation then , so accept the fact that there are no casino that we can mention in which will never ask for KYC in all time, because for sure in one thing or another they will ask you  still.

If the law in some country says that gambling winnings must be taxed, it doesn't matter if it's a big win or a small win, just all winnings have to be taxed. In my opinion, a KYC verification request at the time of a big win is made with the hope that the user has provided false data and the big win will not have to be paid out.
If the casino has the option to require KYC verification in the regulations, then in my opinion it should be clearly specified during registration, if it is not, then hiding it and asking for verification in the case of a big win is not fair in my opinion.

Some casinos will clearly stated it that they require KYC in their policy and privacy while some once you hot registered they will bump you a continuous alert pop up on the screen that " in other to be able to perform higher transaction and increase your withdrawal limit, complete the verification process" then one will have to go through thelat process which is the KYC requirements, therefore in cases like this there should not be any unrest after making a win because it shouldn't have been a new thing to the gambler, while those information provided should not be altered and can be used for reference purpose in other subsequent user's request for wager or withdrawal as the case maybe.

So get ready with KYC, especially if you win a lot of money because the casino will ask you. It is less comfortable for us if the casino asks KYC because we want to withdraw the money but cannot do anything and are forced to obey the casino's request. If the casino is a trusted casino and has a reputation, we can believe it but it will depend on our comfort in sending our documents.

Is that the case?

I have seen it mentioned many times in the forum but I have not checked if it is so, since I mainly play poker on fiat sites and I have only tried the odd crypto casino with pennies.

I suppose that the argument that the casinos will give will be a matter of security, but there are those who could see bad intentions in:

1) You lose a lot of money: I do not ask for KYC.
2) You play a lot and win $20; I do not ask you for KYC.
3) You play, win and request a withdrawal: I ask you for KYC.

risk of kyc on crypto casinos ?
"risk" has a connotation of probability, that is, there is a margin for yes or no, this is obvious, but your 100% has to be on some side of the yes or no, there can be no doubts.

So the question is, How sure are you that either of the 2 answers will occur... yes(!?) or no(!?).

Look for casinos that offer the closest possibility to that 100%, everything else is doubt, and if your doubts make you be in a kyc that you do not want, that is easy; next casino.

The Kyc is a nuisance, without a doubt, we are on "crypto mode" to avoid having to submit documentation, but it is something that for whatever reason is not 100% secure, although there are casinos that are, but I like the margin of 99.99% that small probability of 0.01% is latent, so starting to win starts with things like being clear about where you deposit.

Yup, we can't do much about it as casinos are also forced by the authorities to request KYC especially if ever we won big amounts. Also, they are also making sure that the winner is not some random under age kid who accessed their site and if we are not hiding something then KYC is not something that we can be afraid of, that's if the casino is reputable and already trusted.

This is what happens often and makes more sense for the OP to pay attention to. You have explained it in a simple and uncomplicated way. The fact is that when we only bet small and make small profits, there is no need to worry about KYC. Because the withdrawal limit is still under KYC requirements. Therefore, I further limit the bets in each casino so as not to exceed the maximum limit for further verification.

Not all the times if they  do ask out for some verification do pertains about verifying about the age of a certain big winner which some of them are just trying to get hold and trying not to give out such win which is

really something very shady to be done by some casinos thats why its really always be that ideal on sticking with reputable and known casinos so that you would really make yourself a little bit confident whenever you

do play on a certain site and do knows that you are dealing with the right place and in case there are people who do make up some big wins including you then you dont have any doubts that you would really get paid.
KYC could neither be asked or not but most of casinos now doesnt really ask and pay out directly unless if you are dealing with fiat casinos.

 That's right,
 so if it is about age they let so childs under the age of majority put money by playing until they win ??

They do just love to play safe as we can say. :D

They do let those kids deposit until the last drop of their money and wont really be having any complaints yet they do know that it would really be still on their advantage but on the time that some kids do able to make

some big hits then this is where common modus or something that counters which could result into denying into those payments.Well, we do have terms and conditions but they should have applied it from the start
on not to let any of those minors to hang around and just waiting for them to win and declining their withdrawal.

Age play a major role for casino to demand for KYC from a player, most of the regulatory compliance casinos must comply with the under-age gambling prohibition law that state that one must be above 🔞 to gamble. But aside from that money laundering is another factor that motivates casino sites to demand KYC. So if one is not ready to face all this kyc demand you have to limit yourself to playing only in casinos that do not demand identity verification.

Could you explain us in which circumstances Stake has asked you a KYC please? Because I don't think it's honest to say we don't ask any KYC to play at our casino and then asking one once the player has sent funds there or has made some winnings. If they just care about that when their players don't lose their funds it's a scam.

This may be one of their season for asking LKYC in certain platfor,m especially in the gambling plpatform. We know how children are now easier access gambling platform and they have been usual with this term. Although we as parents must pay attention to our kids in accessing any platform, we cannot get it 24 hours. There is still a chance for kids to join inc certain ng ambling platforms. which is why KYC may be needed. Moreover, it also relates to the restriction of countries, the platform may not risk itself to accept users that come from restricted countries because this will really break the rules and TOS of the company.
However on the other hand, can they hold and save our data very safely? the answer will be not. this will be still risky to put our data on the platform. but once again we sometimes have no idea to do KYC if we want to gambling in certain platforms.
There is always pros and cons about this, weakness and strength

There is no guarantee that you will never be asked to comply KYC on an online casino even if there is no mandatory policies regarding registration, or withdrawal because every regulated casinos has their terms and rules where you can see people and residence from certain countries are not allowed to play there so if someone is winning a huge money then they have all the rights to ask about you didn't violate any of their rules to win the bet(s).

 If the problem is about age, then they should ask for verification upon registration to establish effective restrictions for childs,, If a child need to provide KYC verification to can do profit from some decent winnings, then he can just tell everything to his parents (or ask someone else) for they complete KYC in his place!


 The question is more about AMF restrictions, the casino can't provide importants amounts without keeping tracks to show to the authorities.


 About this, and as providing personal informations can have many bad side effects.. Why not creating central services aggregated by the authorities where you register you informations at one single time, and they provide you with a kind of numeric ID that you can use then to complete verifications even without sharing your informations!
 

This is the truth these days. Before, we saw those casinos that were okay with no compliance prior to KYC. But today is different, everyone will be subject to it especially if you've got huge withdrawals and they'll have to ask you those certain information that they need to verify you as the genuine owner of that account and as well as them complying to their rules of operation. We'll never see today a casino that don't have the rules about questioning a user for kyc suddenly or the rights to ask the user a kyc.

Maybe that's the problem. Try to notice if someone wins a large amount and that person is not a long time ago or is an old member of the casino, the casino can ask for KYC. Frankly, I also haven't tried it, especially by using big money to gamble and win a lot of money because I'm too afraid to see a lot of losses. But I'm just trying to think that if I were a casino owner and there was a member who could win a lot of money, would I let that person withdraw the big winning money without me knowing who that person was?

If I were a casino owner, I would want to find out more about that person by asking for KYC. This is a gambling business where the casino wants to make a lot of money and not all owners will let their members withdraw huge amounts of money.

Of course. Casinos can do little against pressure from the authorities. Casinos will try to comply with the authorities' regulations and ensure everything is still under their control. That is why casinos implement KYC, which may apply to all casinos in the future if the authorities want to interfere in all fiat and crypto based casinos.

All we hope is that they are only doing this for security mate but like what these 3 mentioned by you It is an obvious intention in their part to at least delay the withdrawal taken by the gambler simply by asking them to conduct KYC when it is obvious that most players go in their site because they are not asking for Verification or KYC when starting or luring players , but when the winning comes (specially when it is good enough wins?) then this obligation will be asked and if you deny the verification then you'll never get your funds.
this has been an issue from the beginning that's why many of us deny the fact that there are at least single casino site here that does not ask for KYC in any chance.

just admit that there are none of the following casino that will let you play full time without KYC presentation , yeah they will allow you short time or until you are losing but when you earn enough funds to be a literal winner then expect something changing and that is what will happen.

Gambling site are more brainy than us , we are not the one who must win but them .

The casino has now reached a stage where no player can play full time without KYC. Because in a short time you can play without personal details. Many intelligent and big rich people gamble here on this website. And they are always involved in gambling which you will be surprised to see.

Not all casinos though, there are still plenty of casinos that do not require a KYC, so if in case the current casino you are playing with starts to require you a KYC, then just leave the casino and transfer, easy as that.

We know the risk of submitting our personal information, especially if the gambling site is less trustworthy, so we should do the right thing.

Gambling is fun in crypto because of no KYC, KYC will just kill the fun.

I would suggest trying out www.blizz.io

As I have indicated before, 777coin.com (https://777coin.com) seems still not requesting any information ..

Just try it out !

But its understandable right? As you said mostly when there is sudden changes in the activity of an account will trigger the security system of a casino which may put the account on hold until the further process comes officially, yes its bit annoying but also it can save someone's money if the account accessed without authorisation from the actual user.

As long as you use the same IP, casinos shouldn't ask for anything. KuCoin is a great exchange because of their KYC policy. Casinos should be similar.

That's what we have to think about because, with requests from regulators, casinos are forced to comply and will eventually ask for KYC from their members. If people who gamble at the casino use big money, they must be prepared to be asked to verify. But I don't think that small gamblers will be asked for KYC by the casino and hopefully, it will stay that way so that we gamblers who don't spend a lot of money can still play gambling freely.

I sense something in kyc verification I see that you cannot compare exchange platform kyc with a gambling live casino kyc I will say that exchange platform kyc is more of important than gambling site verification because exchange you don't want to verify who you are and what kind of transactions you do if your document is from original source then your account will be granted what do you offer changing it amount you needed to exchange, but casino is just it's like verification to make a withdrawal for a platform

I'd agree they aren't the same. I just think that KuCoin is the best of the exchanges as far as KYC. With casinos, people are brainwashed into thinking that they should hand over KYC. It doesn't matter how much you win at a Las Vegas casino in blackjack, craps, baccarat and roulette, you don't have to give them any information.

KYC will be in all this things that are near cryptocurrencies - casinos, exchanges, marketplaces, etc. This is reality and we have to deal with it. It works in real life business and soon in the cryptocurrencies will be the same. The casino without KYC will mean that we can`t trust them.
Private data can become a problem even when you use trusted reputable casino. But this the same with the common business - hackers can get your private data in both choices.

In the future, not all casinos or marketplace will implement the KYC/AML and it doesn't mean either that every casino, marketplace, or store that didn't implement KYC shouldn't be trusted but people have to do research about the casino, marketplace, and store they wanted to use. Mind you, there's a casino on this forum that also implemented KYC, and everybody that participated in their campaign is red-tagged.

About privacy data being a problem if private information of users gets stolen by a hacker, this can be minimized if people can maintain the KYC tier level in which only their residing information is needed to perform the KYC.

If you are going to be a professional player and playing a large amount of money then you must do KYC. This is a rule because the government can ask for your information at any time. If you get a jackpot, you may have to pay percentage of your wining money to the government. This is no need for a ordinary player. There are also some other reasons why investors may take KYC.

Your information may not be secure unless you must join a good platform before playing casino. Now a days people always try to be free that is why they are not willing to provide their personal information in any casino platform.

There are big casinos in this forum that don't require KYC to their small time players.
But it doesn't mean, they are not trusted. It depends on how they build their credibility in this community.
There are even several long-time casinos here which are not yet licensed, and yet, they have loyal patrons that are continuously playing.
But if you do happen to submit KYC to a casino, better make it worth your risk and you have done your homework.

Yes, understandable. As they're also just following the head for the rules set to them to ask their players for verifications. It's the same as the exchanges, the mandatory verification and compliance for the kyc.
True. If ever there's an unauthorized login and access from someone that the database isn't recognized, the alarm will be triggered and they have to halt any transaction from that access.

That's a really good post TimeTeller. I'd rather play at a casino with no license and a 5 year history without problems than a new book with a license. Having a license is no big deal. Giving out your name, address, phone number, passport and selfie can be a big deal.

Well, it takes time to build a good reputation. Having a license doesnt guarantee that casinos can be trusted and unlikely to turn shady as time goes by. Its just one of the criteria in choosing where casinos to play.

Thats why its a must to conduct a research on where casino to play. Its a big deal to give out your personal information since worse scenario can happen. Thus we need to make sure that the casino is trusted by many gamblers. Its a plus point if this particular casino is existing for years already and has no bad record.

I'm much more familiar with sportsbooks. Here's a list of F rated casinos. Many had licenses and stole player's funds.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0

The license gives members confidence that the casino is registered with a regulatory body so that we can report it to the regulator if anything happens to the casino or our account.
So by playing at the casino, it is hoped that we will not have problems in the future even though it does not provide a guarantee.
But indeed, before providing our documents for verification, we need to do some research so we don't choose to play at the wrong casino.
In addition, we are lucky to have already a list of casinos that we can use as a place to play gambling and become our favorite gambling.

Nothing is wrong with crypto casinos having KYC as long as the site is reputable and does have a license. You don't need to worry about your information being leaked. The security is even tighter compared to social media where you update almost all your information about yourself. So why bothered about KYC in crypto casinos.

In addition, you don't need to ask for strategies with those lucky gamblers. They are using same strategy with those losers out there. It's just they have more luck, better balance and balls.

For me having a gambling platform license is one of the reasons why we should trust the gambling platform because by this the players have an assurance to get back with those gambling if they got scammed of those platforms. Also without a gambling license is a risk because anytime soon once they got enough funds they can get back and shut down their platform easily but tons of assets came from their players. Still its players preferences and risks of it.

How many times does a governing body rule in favor of the player? Almost never. Gambling commissions aren't there to help players, they are set up to make money off the casinos. If you want help, get it from BCT, other forums or sites such as Ask Gamblers.

If I recall I experience this on an exchange after I changed my password the withdrawals are then paused for some hours it only sucks though because I urgently needed the fund that day but what can I do? It didn't come to my mind that I will contact their support to make an exemption to my account and to fasten the waiting time.

If this occurs to a gambling site I think I will feel the same, I'll be disappointed and bored if this happens after I deposit my funds because I can't play gambling since my funds are frozen. Maybe they can make this feature optional and not mandatory since many of us know what we are dealing with. Our accounts will be just fine.

As much as I do see this Anti-money laundering fighting and underage restriction, I feel it is just a measure for those who are not too exposed to the internet because KYC can be manipulated, People buy these documents online to do whatever they need to do online. We have also seen where the platform shifted from its purpose and been used for money laundering instead of users themselves and in return, they get a share from the people they offered such services, they wouldn't say it out to the public but codedly happens inside.

@TimeTeller, You totally understand my point but I believe all gamblers don't have the same viewpoint and we have some who didn't care about going through KYC. What I believe thats important now is people make sure the casino they are going to use is worth the trust giving their private information because a lot of no KYC casinos are implementing KYC this day.
@Peeps Place, just read what I said above because as crypto get more exposure the lawmaker will focus more on crypto gambling site.

I'd agree that more laws are heading for crypto-currencies but it all depends on where the casino is located since each country has their own laws. Costa Rica isn't going to change their laws on gambling. Curacao is looking to change laws but so far they have been good about allowing play without KYC.

As far as I know, when a crypto gambling player earns a lot on the casino platform and he decides that he wants to release his winnings, sometimes there are other crypto casino platforms before they allow them to release the earnings on their casino platform. they first ask for your needs before you can withdraw money and when you meet their needs, then you can withdraw your money.

and KYC has been used as weapon or accessories of casinos to take advantage of the situation as many crypto gamblers are afraid or hate KYC verification , maybe some of them are cheating or using multi accounts , or some of them really wanted their privacy to be kept .
this is the problem why people are now actually accepted the fact that KYC is a must in every site maybe not in the beginning but in the end it will be asked .

So the licensing of the platform will be like a guarantee that the casino site will be safe and have no ill will towards its users.
Suppose the casino is proven to have cheated against its users.
In that case, they can be brought to the attention of the regulators and perhaps if all are proven to be true, the casino could pay damages against the users.
But we can not avoid KYC, which may be applied to all casinos, whether it's a casino with withdrawal limits for its members or a casino that has asked for KYC from the start.
If that were to happen in all casinos, we would not be free to gamble anonymously and regulators and casinos would monitor us.

KYC is just an instrument. It doesn`t mean that KYC guarantees that the casino is trusted. And only the casino decides how to use it. I can add that KYC in new small casinos can be used to get your private data. So every time you ought to decide by yourself to give some information to casino or not, only you decide for who you trust.
And i don`t think that it can be enough only residing information - it only can help casino to decide to allow you gamble or not but not smth else.

Before signing up any casino why don't you read their terms and conditions to know if you are to undergo KYC or not. But come to think of it, why are you afraid of KYC since you wanna gamble you should be ready to pass through some verifications before withdrawal and that is the best.


I don't think anyone who thoroughly passed through the KYC system would be victimized for any reason, it's only those who are afraid of releasing their details. At times it depends on total amount which you want to withdraw from the site would required KYC.

This line of thinking is just wrong. Some of us don't want to give our personal details to casinos upon signing up simply because of the possibility that our information can be sold elsewhere. It has happened before concerning even the biggest of companies, and such platforms are not far off from committing the same offense.



If most platforms can simply just implement this, I wouldn't have any problems sending out my info if I get a huge win. But if I was asked the most sensitive KYC questions upon signing up, that's just simply a hard pass for me.

This is not supposed to be so, Crypto gambling platforms are supposed not to deprived their customers of withdrawing their fund through the use of KYC. No every persons like KYC and their are many reason why most Crypto gamblers are never interested in gambling platform that do require KYC. KYC means know your customer and not every persons will like to release their identity to gambling platforms for no reasons or so.

Well, previously I am a person who has been very jealous with my personal data, but since I live in a country that has not yet regulated BTC, if not the activity of mining has been regulated, it is worth taking care of our data , not so much because of the risk of receiving threats but how annoying it is to have a bot writing to you at any time you join a certain platform or something like that, plus the other thing is that I am not a person who owns BTC as well as many people who do, in some countries where crypto is prohibited if it is necessary that they can use VPN or be a little more cautious, in my personal opinion I think that casinos in the not too distant future will understand that people require VPN and not use KYC , because there will be casinos that will allow it and that is where their customers will go.

The problem is that we are too lazy to read the terms and conditions because they are usually composed of a wall of text and we think all terms and conditions for every site are telling the same thing but on some gambling ann threads they can state it if they require kyc or not as well as other stuffs like if they allow the use of vpn and their list of restricted countries.

We can say that it's only just a kyc so what's the big deal? But there are actually people that values their privacy more, than anything else. Yes they will only play gambling and won't do any other business so why kyc is needed? And about the abuse, it's still possible for a gambling site it to detect even without the need of kyc.

Having a gambling license is gives an assurance to the players that the gambling casino is legitimate and does not take away the funds of their player's deposit, at the same time it depends on them if they will make the KYC a mandatory thing because some of those are not required the KYC to create an account unless the player activity is quite suspicious to the casino like abusing the bonuses and other form or abusing the system of the casino that's the time they will request a KYC for the player and might hold/freeze the account for withdrawal.

I think most gamblers here do hate KYC and they value their privacy more than anything else. And for good reason, as it can be abused by a site or third-party in a bad way, so it's best to avoid it when at all possible. But if you have to go through KYC to use a site you really want to bet with, I suggest you go for a regulated one that will give you at least some protection.

Exactly, I hate KYC as well but if there's no option then I have no choice but to comply.

Some gambling sites are using the KYC requirement to cheat their gamblers, at first they'll allow you to gambler anonymously, but when you start winning big money, that's where they will impose the KYC and if you fail to comply they can just freeze the funds, it's very common nowadays, so we have to be careful in choosing a gambling site.

I chose to find a provider with simple KYC, such as only needing an email and cellphone number and already supporting large withdrawals. However, there are the only way when KYC is needed, if we manage to achieve a big win, for example up to more than 5 BTC, maybe some providers will ask for full KYC before being able to withdraw. if we still never wants to do KYC, better to makes a research about provider, asked to support team, make sure to read the TOS/TOU before we decide to register.

Very important to read the terms and do your research in finding the best fits to what you are looking, there are many available casino and those who are comfortable to provide KYC they needed to look for the house that have extra layers of securities, it's for the purpose of protecting those important information about gamblers who are using the platforms.

There are gamblers who are not comfortable in providing KYC and they will keep on finding a site that will allow them to play

without sending those details, the catch, once they win huge amount and request to withdraw, KYC will be asked.

Some users hate KYC because they want to prevent their personal information from different kinds of people or sites. And also nowadays many tricks have been detected which is the use of other personal information to scam other people so other gamblers did not want KYC. but KYC is defended from the casino or site itself because some sites or casino strictly implemented KYC in order to play with them .

From one point of view, there is no risk here. Again lately if we see the number of data thefts increasing day by day. Now there are many scammers who steal people's information from KYC verification and sell them. So my point is that there will be no risk when that casino has a good reputation.But in my knowledge, most good casinos require KYC when a player receives a suspicious fund transfer or a big jackpot.
If you are looking for a non-KYC or KYC-required casino then you can follow the topic below
Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0)

KYC not guarantee the level of trust to have on a casino was the exact thing i said before but KYC is not decided by the casino on how to use it because everything is decide by the casino license master hold and guidelines provide by their financial service.
This is the reason why casinos hire a private company who are specialized in this field to handle their KYC activities.

 If the casino is not licensed? Yes.

KYC in casino is implemented to prevent casino been at risk or abused by online theft and any casino that doesn't have tier which require residing information of their user is misusing their power.

I have a question that has been giving me a lot of headache, what exactly is this casino license for? because in 90% of cases where people are complaining about having seen their accounts frozen by the casinos they have nothing to complain about, even though they know that the casino where they will have their accounts frozen has a license in curacao, that's why I keep asking myself these questions What are licenses for? and about KYC I also can't understand how this KYC works only on the client side and doesn't work on the casino owners side, example: how is it possible for the client to KYC in an anonymous casino?

This is a bit contradictory! First you say there is no risk then you acknowledge that there are many scammers and thiefs targeting users'p personal information!
My concern is that there are many people who still don't realize how valuable their personal information are and how scammers and fraudsters can use them in their scam schemes.

I will rather not risk my information through KYC and if a casino is a KYC complains I will simply walk away from it and just try to lay my hands on some other casino that will not request verification. Am not free with KYC and that is because I believe crypto casinos should be privacy oriented.

The best thing is to check not only the legitimacy of the site and even the track record of the owner. It also helps knowing what are the KYC third party platforms and their reputation. If I own a casino, I would not like to risk the reputation of my site nor the possible legal actions that could take place if my system is hacked. For that, there are a number of thrid party specialised companies with the right security.

It doesn't have to be a hack, it could be an inside job. The bigger the book, the more likely that the player list will be stolen and sold. A license or the reputation of a book doesn't make any difference. No one wants to buy a small player list but a big one is valuable.

Ledger was breached and one million email addresses and other personal information were leaked. If Ledger can be hacked, all sportsbooks can be hacked.

Everyone expects the privacy of crypto casinos to be different from other casinos, but many times casinos take a hard line on kyc to meet the conditions of their licenses. You will find many casinos that do not make kyc mandatory, but you also need to be aware of their reputation in advance. Because after you deposit the money, if they lock your fund and ask you to give your personal information to kyc. Then you will be in the same situation as before. So it is important to research about the reputation of the casino before making a deposit, the subject of kyc is later.

You ask a very good important question, casino license is for the casino to attract and gain the trust of gamblers because casino owners have to work in certain compliance with laws, regulations, and transparency stated by their master license holder who literally work as a casino SEC.

About frozen accounts, it's something i can not answer because we have a situation where casinos have every reason to freeze the account of users cheating or breaking the casino rules and regulations. However, we have a situation where the casino is abusing its power.


KYC also work on the casino owners side either because the casino could obtain a license they need to visit the local gambling regulator in the country where they want to operate a legal casino although some casino looking for someone to help them do this online when the problem occurs its the person that represents the casino that will be in problem.


I believe only casinos thats not licensed can be called anonymous casinos and that is the reason most gamblers always believe in a licensed casinos.

If @RILWAN is indeed determined to play to a non-KYC casino then it's much better to deposit small amounts so that there won't be a big problem to look the other way if incase the casino will lock the funds and asks KYC to retrieve/withdraw the said funds. Unfortunately, we really can't do something about these things these days because they are just following the law in exchange for their license, that's is also why it's important to find a trusted and reputable casino if ever things like these will happen and the fund is quite big enough to surrender.

Indeed, in this case there are some advantages and disadvantages of doing KYC there but for now it is clear that many people don't like this kind of thing, regardless of what KYC is one thing that seems to be the most avoided especially for gamblers who put a little money there and I also do the same thing because I still don't think it's worth it to provide personal data when gambling with a small amount that I do.

You have to consider that dealing with online betting sites which is a centralized platform involves you doing kyc, I will advise you go for casino platforms that do require kyc verification, dealing with platform that doesn't require kyc is like risking your funds, because there is a chance that you could win huge amount of money and they may demand you provide your kyc ,So take note of that because by that time your funds is already locked up.

One of the major disadvantages of KYC is the fact that your data may be compromised or get licked or sold on the dark web and used to commit crimes, but aside from this the most agreed way to reduce crime and underage, gambling is through KYC and if the casino has strong security the users are good to go even with KYC in place.

The only sites I know with 0 chances to ask KYC are not big unfortunately. But AFAIK Freebitcoin never ask any KYC even to its biggest high rollers. They are even working on a full non-custodial and decentralized casino, it should be released in the coming months. Besides that, Nitrogen doesn't ask any KYC too AFAIK, Yobit provides a dice game and few other games while they never ask KYC.

This kind of situation is one of the best thing in gambling or sites if we talk about high bettors because if you win an big amount of money from gambling then the sites ask about your self / personal information in order to withdraw your money so you must comply and pass their kyc. But not all casino doing this some of them they are letting you withdraw your money without asking to much information about yourself.

Yeah. Listening to the interests of the players, some casinos try to take advantage of the fact that kyc is not mandatory in their casinos. And gamblers deposit in that casino without verification, but the problem starts when they go to withdraw the winning money. They lock the account with various excuses and force the customer to complete the kyc. So you should deposit in any casino after researching everything. Because there are many casinos in the market in which kyc is not mandatory but they are providing good service to their customers.

What you are saying is true, but I think you should look for a reputable casino so you don't have to worry if the casino sells on the dark web. By playing at that casino, your data is completely guarded by the casino and will ensure that customer data is in a safe place. But yes, KYC is a way to limit minors from playing gambling, especially if the casino does verification online because minors will get caught if they want to cheat the casino using an adult identity.

point of correction casino gambling platform that does not require a kyc verification because kyc verification is very necessary in any online platform, which any platform I'm gambling site on betting sites that is not the point for verification it is very known that that particular platform is not verified because there is every tendency that you can loss your funds used to place bet. So kyc verification is universal for any gambling website and none of them is exempted for kyc verification I hope you have to take note on this.

Aside from scam casinos, which will invoke identity procedures in order not to give gamblers their profits, even honest gambling sites are not in their interest to spend huge bonuses to gamblers without verifying their identities due to reasons mainly related to the legal legislation in the countries in which they launch their projects.
Identity verification procedures, although not recommended at all for users, may be useful to them if they use sites that disclose their activities to the relevant authorities.

Nitrobetting, Betcoin, Playbetr, Freebitcoin are sites that never ask for KYC unless you use a VPN.

If you don't use a VPN, then some of the books/casinos will give nice bonuses without KYC.

I can only vouch for Playbetr and Freebitco,in in which yeah they are not asking for KYC or in any form .

Betcoin.ag and Nitrobetting is also familiar for me because they have been in this market for long as they also have their banner here before .

Never that I use VPN in playing  and that is the reason also why i keep gaining good bonuses and good treatment from the site ,

Good for you, VPNs are only for people who like to protect their privacy and for those who want to change their location so they will not be subjected to the ban, but without knowing the risk that the gambling site might block their account and take their money. As long as your country does not prohibit gambling, there's no reason on using a VPN service.

I am sorry for asking this question here, but I have to ask to know more in my glossary of terms. What is the full meaning of KYC and it function in casino games? I have been trying to know this term since I came to this board but no concrete explanation, some said, it means Know your customer (kyc) but I am not satisfied. I need  more on the term or acronym.

From my own initiative, there is no casino game that doesn't require kyc. Because kyc promote the casino game to the highest top and the more players you have the more popular your company becomes. All these sites they mentioned above I believe use kyc,  sites like:
Playbetr, Freebitco, Nitrobetting etc. The best way to find out his to look for reputation Casino Gambling and play.

Since when did Stake start KYC ?

I personally like gambling on BC.GAME and Freebitco.in both of which does not require KYC process.
If you are looking for more KYCless casinos then you can look out for these casinos on BTCGOSU which is a casino reviewing site.
You can also find the promotions and pros and cons of various casinos on this site.
Here's the link you can check out https://www.btcgosu.com/anonymous-bitcoin-casinos/

Actually he's asking no KYC casino not KYCless casino, the reason is he might a professional gambler who actually make money or trying to hit the jackpot has been mentioned, it will trigger Stake and requesting KYC to him.

BC.GAME also KYCless, but Freebitco.in is the no KYC casino.

Only few no KYC casino who have enough reputation, the another casino is Anonibet, but it's just not really popular in this forum.

Wait a minute. What's the difference between KYCless and no KYC casino ?
For me, both are one and the same. KYCless means there's no KYC on the site.
Even BC.GAME doesn't require a KYC. I have been with them for more than a year now.

Different people will have different experience and @OP is looking for casino without KYC completely 100%.

Why the hell in the first place you will undergo a KYC to a site that's not even worthy to put some trust. Of course, to minimize the risks, only follow KYC procedures on a reputable site or those that are in the operation for a long already.

In most gambling sites, KYC is not a mandatory thing but it will just possibly ask depending on your account activity like in most cases when you won big or something fishy is happening on the site. Shouldn't be a bad idea to undergo KYC if we are talking about reputable sites.

Don't make things too much complicated.

I like to know the reason why they have to require us a KYC if we win big? Is this even reasonable or they are just trying to investigate us so if they have a chance they will freeze our account and take our winnings? I just don't understand, because most gambling site promote anonymous gambling but they have the power to force us to comply with KYC if they want.

I was talking about Nitrogen Sports, not Nitrobetting. This is 2 different platforms even if they belong to the same company, their ToS and policy are different.
Nobody quoted them but Bitvest and 777coin are also not requiring any KYC to gamble.(Edit : Danydee mentioned 777coin)

Their reasons are many if we win big, such as for example, abuse, not following the rules, having many accounts, etc., even though we follow the rules correctly and don't blame usability, then with big wins, it will definitely be checked in more detail, it's usually like that, then from that even though their casino is anonymous but sometimes they always have rules that force KYC at any time of course we have to do it if we win big.
Maybe it's because of the regulation rules that KYC is needed because I see on average in the FAQ rules KYC is always asked if the casino needs it.

The reason why many want to go for casinos that requires no kyc issues is because of the inconveniences they put gamblers through when trying to make withdrawals especially in dealing with a big win, it's not everybody that want to reveal their identity on third party websites just for security reasons while some don't mind loosing thier privacy, i will also go against kyc because it's needless as long as if it was not required at first place then it shouldn't be a thing of demand when making withdrawals for a winning.

The same like btc-e.com (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTC-e), no mandatory KYC.. it was a very great platform..
 
 About Yobit dice game, it's with like 4% house edge?! Not very sure that here's people that will deposit just to playing that game.. regardless the fact it is not provably faire, not provide custom settings, without auto-bet bot !

If you look at things like this, it's also not wrong if KYC is needed for the casino to be able to verify whether he or she is an asset holder or not because it's quite clear when we bring big money there or indeed get a profit there, indirectly our status will be a bit different from other gamblers.
Although there are still many who want Anonymity but I think there are some people whose goal is to be known as well and not only to gamble there.

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Not provably fair but from what I've seen their dice is fair, I'm playing dice every day there and I've never encountered weird results until now. The house edge is rather high but afaik it's the dice game with the most altcoins available of the crypto space as for now. Then it can be interesting if you have dead coins and you don't know what to do with them. There are also few other games like the pony race from what I know.

Without a doubt this is true, after all the chances that we get lucky are on the low side, but we know it could happen to us at some point and we do not want to deal with a casino that will try to somehow not pay our rightful profits, however it is a difficult balance to obtain, on one hand we want a casino that is trusted but that at the same time it will not ask for our personal information if we happened to win big, and there are not too many casinos which fulfill both of those conditions.

But only the casino decided to use KYC or not. And i think that there are some reasons to use it. No one want to spent money if he can doesn`t spent.

Everyone want to defend himself. If KYC helps to defend casino(in any way - both from cheaters and from the laws ) - they will use it. They work with money and it means responsibility. And the gambler always has a choice when he chooses casino with or without KYC.

Whether a casino needs a KYC or not most gamblers are mostly interested in getting their withdrawals without any restrictions. There are some casino that can restrict you from getting your withdrawal and at the end they we ask for KYC. If the gambler is not able to drop their KYC then withdrawal will be withhold. Once is can always withdraw my fund without difficult then I am very okay even with KYC.

If a withdrawal is not held then KYC may not be bad in your opinion, but not only that you get your withdrawal if KYC is done but what of your privacy some identities get sold on the dark web so most gamblers will not want the identity theft so they try as much as possible to avoid KYC casino.

Oh well, I never knew they had this condition mentioned on their site.
Although they don't have KYC for regular gambling on their site but this condition definitely means one can will need to do the KYC in certain situations.
In this case, I think there will only a few gambling sites which has no KYC process all together.

I suggest that you understand the terms of service to know all the detailed explanations regarding the casino site used, but if you are an active user of the BC.games casino and have no problem with the limited gambling service features, then my assumption is that the casino site has not implemented 100% KYC for users or purposes KYC may be applied at any time according to the description of the terms of service.

Even if you avoid casinos that have KYC requirements, you should consider safe and legal casinos, as KYC requirements must be applied following UKGC requirements to get a license to operate.

Well that is the fact, --if you want to use a legitimate gambling casino is should be a licensed casino but the disadvantage of the licensed casino there is a corresponding KYC implementation. But at least we are always aware that a gambling casino will warrant us this anytime and that is the time we should read carefully the term of use so that we can avoid possible violations that we will face in the future.
KYC is being a part nowadays, though there is the risk --we should choose and pick carefully the gambling casino that we use.

When choosing casino that ask KYC most of the gamblers tend to use those well-known house that really comply with licenses casinos that gamblers are protected of certain laws, if you are willing to provide your personal info in submitting KYC, it's good to pick the house that also have corresponding identities.

You can play and enjoy with lesser chance of being scam if the house are following the government laws, they are subject to everything once you file any accusations about the service, always make sure to read the terms and condition it serves as your main protections against the owners.

are you aware that any gambling platform that is in the mind of kyc verification I have licence to operate with and the itch all the gambling platforms who which is demanding verification if you can observe it and assess it very well he will know that yes those platforms I have the one I cannot make away or run away with your money as a deposit so is better for someone to have verification in a platform than for you to not have every relation to a platform that you know does not worth it. KYC is sure for good companies

That is why I don't really understand why there are some casinos that will suddenly require KYC if we win big and want to withdraw it, if they will just ask us about our details then they should've done that asking before we deposit some funds to their platform. I know that they are just following rules that were imposed by the government but I don't see that one as a reasonable thing either and I'm seeing it more as a trap to have them freeze our winnings if we won't give our details.

KYC is very important for the security of a user's money or any transaction. If you ever win a big amount in gambling then you are requested to do KYC. Because they want to be sure through KYC that you are the real person. It is better to do KYC in the casino because you do not have to face any problem in case of large transactions.

If they want to check and know that you're the real person or not a kid then they should ask KYC upon registration or upon deposit just like @Maslate have said. KYC may sounds secure though but they should try to be more reasonable and not just ask these questions if we're trying to withdraw our winnings. Although I'm not against KYC as long as that specific casino is reputable and trusted but I'm just curious on their procedure.

Stake don't require with KYC because you can withdraw your fund and deposit running well after creating account without submit KYC document, but problem faced when your account suddenly close access and try help to costumer service re getting back account. I don't know why you use your telegram account here and you need information or trying how to get access with costumer asking about KYC with Stake casino gambling. Long time in Stake never ask for KYC and withdraw could process with "tip" if account have reach more than 1% level, if active wager easy withdrawing to our friend account.

I wasn't aware of that, thank you for giving me this information. There is no ANN thread for Nitrogen Sports/Nitro Betting? Because I didn't see anything related to that matter recently. It's a little bit sad unfortunately because AFAIK policies of nitrogen sports were less strict than Nitro betting and the website was faster to load and easier to use from what I could notice.

As you have said, it is just a measurement to know your customer and the identity behind the person in your casino. There are rules laid down in every Casino, it is your duty to follow them and if you break them, you will be penalized for it and if you are found doing money laundering, you will be reported to a designated investigation department and probably prosecuted for fraud.


How is KYC now a measure for security, it doesn't come close when it comes to the safety of users rather a way of mandatory privacy showcasing at one will, it is not a compulsory aspect of casino but if they request it, you may have to provide it to enjoy other benefits and it may not be enough sometimes as they may even reject it. If privacy isn't something that you value, you can do it to avoid any problems with large transactions or be suspicious of any event but if you are doing that for security, then it is very wrong.

Cause they know if they do the KYC check upfront, most bettors would find another site to let them play without KYC first. I know, I know, sound like a predator practice but since every crypto casinos were also doing this so it become a common practice. To keep the incoming bettors in their site, not turning to other sites -> lost a potential customer, or bettor in this case.
Though I wonder if they allow kids to play it first, then ask for KYC later follow your thinking, is that still a breach of laws?

Well, I don't think there's anything to be curious about because crypto exchanges do this same thing, there are several exchanges that allow you to deposit, trade and withdraw small amount of money, anything you are ready to deposit, trade or withdraw a large sum of money, you will be asked to upgrade your account from level to level 2 or 3, depending on their tier system, and we all know that this tiers are nothing other than different levels of kyc, there are even other exchanges that allow you to deposit huge sums of money without kyc, but upon trying to withdraw, you will be asked to pass kyc verification before you can withdraw.
It's nothing different from what casinos does, casinos are even better since money you are trying to withdraw is money you won, for some exchanges like I said before, you will deposit your hard earned money without passing kyc but you will be required to pass kyc before you can be allowed to withdraw same money.

Perhaps it is more useful if players take into account in advance that casinos will always ask for a KYC. Then you can adjust to that and that way you will not be faced with surprises. Most players are already familiar with this method, with crypto it also happens more and more often. If you really don't want to participate in the KYC, I think you should do good research beforehand. But in principle, more and more sites will perform the KYC as a check. Usually only luckily once and it can also be completed quickly.

Most of them will when it's needed to be asked. But if you don't have any problem with that, just gamble and be happy as you play. And if that worries you, there's no need to think of it as it will only be required when you'll be having big withdrawals or your deposits are questionable including your wins.

There are also casinos that don't ask for it based on the feedback of many players that have played and you just really have to look for them out.

does someone really involved or try to participate in a kyc gambling site or it is the duty of the platform to give is terms and condition, I do see any gambling site that does kyc as a good site we have a people who is a gamble I can Gamble without having any disturbance so I does not condemn kyc because is to know the people who is involved in playing doubles with them

Casinos that use KYC for their members cannot be blamed because they only follow the rules given to them so we as players must be observant to choosing a casino. If we don't like KYC, we can choose a KYC free casino site, maybe they won't apply KYC for members who don't deposit or withdraw large amounts of money. It will be better for us to use it as a place to gamble because if we don't use gambling to make money, we will not worry about KYC. Joining a casino that uses KYC or not using KYC will depend on each gambler's goals and motives for gambling.

Before participating in the casino you should monitor their website carefully and notice their social media followers, if you find everything satisfactory to them, then fulfill their various conditions and do KYC. This will make them pay your dues quickly.

I want you to know this, no matter how big and user-friendly a casino is, it will never operate outside the contract signed, rules, and regulations set up by its Master License holder.
Although, we have a situation where some casino representatives abuse this by asking for unnecessary KYC and this is the reason why it is good to use a fair casino.

KYC in crypto casinos was implemented when online theft and underage player are a problem. Therefore, it prevents casino from getting into trouble with the law.

One of the things which people fear about KYC is the misuse of the KYC identities and documents. Small unknown casino can sell our KYC related documents and we might be at the risk of big trouble. However, the trusted casino also does not guarantee anything but usually, we have peace of mind that since the casino is trusted they will not misuse our documents.
No one can grantee anything once it comes to the kyc, but never perform your kyc in brand new or untrusted gambling sites.

Risk of using kyc on gambling is same risky as you feel risk on the currency exchange site. But both are safe on if you use trusted gambling/crypto exchange site. Please stay away providing KYC to those gambling site who has no licence. And if possible only try to use trusted/reputed gambing site which you can see on this board.

Indeed, there's still no guarantee at all even if we choose to play at those reputable and trusted casinos but the risk is somehow minimized because their license and name is on the line if ever (I hope not) there's some leakage of information because of that KYC we provided.
Too risky for us to jump from one casino to another just to seek privacy because we could land in a much more dangerous platform than we had the last time.

Well, you got a point right there. In fact, I've also thought of that, that KYC are just being asked upon withdrawal and not upon deposit because they are on a competition and they need to find some medium to maintain their clients in their platform. Which is still doesn't sound reasonable for me if that's just their reason.

Yea, I get that. But that doesn't answer my question though. Are you literally saying that it's the norm that's why I don't have to be curious at all and just go with the flow? Sounds to me that you're easy to be hooked on scams if that's your kind of reasoning.

The license really doesn't mean anything. Most of the time it's an employee that will sell the customer list. The casino doesn't even realize that the information is being sold. If there's a hack, then the casino knows but not an inside job. I was asked if I wanted a database for $20k USD but said no.

Your first-hand experience tells that this situation is indeed happening.
An inside job is always possible as some employees may be tempted for the money.
Some will offer to the black market and whoever has the highest bid, will get the database.
No doubt, you will receive unsolicited messages or emails, wondering how they did get a hold of your details?
Maybe, we can trust the casino, but the people or one of the staffs, will divert from his role and look for better pay.

Many people are so concerned about their personal info - which is okie. Many casinos also accepts the facts that people don't want to share their KYC
Some people like to remain low profile while the others a bit show off. Both have their own reasons. Lets respect everyone!

We already respect people's decisions because they know best for them. And about KYC, they also consider where they can submit their documents, whether on an exchange or a gambling site.

And people who don't want to submit their documents or don't want to do KYC also know where it is. But, a beginner should read and find a good gambling site for them and not just follow our advice. What is good for us is not necessarily good for them so they need to figure it out independently.

but those sites usually are trusted already , meaning most of them had been serving gamblers and users for years without serious allegation and not saving the best for last.

i think what we need to understand that not all of those can be trusted and can be given our documents .

Like always said, it is our prerogative and  and choice where to deposit and play, if we think that we are safe then why not continue?
but of course with small amount as starter for more safer experiences.