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Title: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 04, 2022, 01:58:16 AM Shaker.finance (http://Shaker.finance)
Trusted and safe bitcoin mixing solutions After around half year of development our team is proud to show finalized project. Official project domain is https://Shaker.finance Mixer has two options: standard mix with 1-1.5 % fee and clean mix with 3-4 % fee, you can choose either one . Minimum mixing amount is 0.005 BTC, maximum - 20 BTC per transaction Standard mix This mixing mode is made for crypto holders who are looking for fast, reliable and inexpensive mixing. In this case you will receive money of people who used mixer before you. Choose that mode if you want to save on transaction fees but still remain anonymous and safe Clean mix This mode allows crypto holders receiving completely clean and anonymous Bitcoins that come from cryptocurrency exchanges and/or miners. Choose this mode if you want to receive completely clean coins with lowest available AML score percentage Why Shaker.finance ? - Two mixing modes: standard and clean, choose either you prefer - User-friendly interface: website UX and UI are thoroughly elaborated - Step by step mixing process: user can see at which mixing phase he is in - Open statistics: in the mix monitor section you can see chart & latest mixes volumes - Small min amount: only 0.005+ BTC is required to start mixing! - No limits for max amount: Send big amount and mixing will go smoothly even if it's 10 BTC! - Each address is active for 7 days: users can send coins for mix to each address for 7 days - Possibility to recover session using only link that is unique for each session - Forums topics: we are open for real feedback from real users and have topics on forums - We don't store logs! logs are deleted after mixing process has finished How to use Shaker.finance mixer ? 1. On the main page choose one of two mixing modes: standard mix or clean mix 2. Input from 1 to 2 addresses that will finally receive cleansed bitcoins 3. Send from 0.005 BTC to the service mixing address you've received 4. Wait for 1 confirmation for the mixing process to start. Mix will take up to few hours 5. Get cleansed bitcoins to the specified address/addresses, you will be notified in the website interface as well In case you have questions related to mixing pm or write to jabber shakerfinance@exploit.im (preferred jabber, not always on forum) Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: dkbit98 on July 05, 2022, 10:50:55 AM I wouldn't use or trust any bitcoin mixer on clearnet that uses cloudflare for ddos protection, like it's the case with Shaker.finance.
One more thing that makes this service suspicious is their claims that you can mix unlimited amount of coins, for new service that is highly unlikely and you didn't reveal how much funds you have in total. Second thing I noticed reading your ToS page is that you can terminate your service at any time without taking any responsibility whatsoever: https://shaker.finance/terms Registration country shows Lithuania, but I suspect this is more likely one of their bigger neighboring country: Quote Domain Name: shaker.finance https://www.whois.com/whois/shaker.financeRegistry Domain ID: 20c05d5259f743b9a5fe2d9c3b4322ea-DONUTS Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.1api.net Registrar URL: http://www.1api.net Updated Date: 2022-04-10T10:40:50Z Creation Date: 2021-12-04T17:15:12Z Registry Expiry Date: 2022-12-04T17:15:12Z Registrar: 1API GmbH Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 05, 2022, 01:11:16 PM Any service can terminate their website and they may not write it in their TOS, it's just basic TOS, we are not going to terminate it of course
For unlimited amount - we have reserves and able to serve big amounts Speaking for cloudflare - some of the online exchangers from bestchange use it successfully and there are no mitm attacks or anything else Registration in Lithuania or antiabuse is something fraudulent now ? LOL sounds funny then Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: dkbit98 on July 05, 2022, 01:43:02 PM For unlimited amount - we have reserves and able to serve big amounts There is a big difference between big amounts and unlimited amounts.So far I haven't seen anything that proves you hold substantial or any amount of coins, and I think it's high risk using something that can be gone and terminated tomorrow. Speaking for cloudflare - some of the online exchangers from bestchange use it successfully and there are no mitm attacks or anything else BestChange is not exchange nor it is used for mixing of coins, so it's totally different use case, and they are also available on Tor.Registration in Lithuania or antiabuse is something fraudulent now ? LOL sounds funny then Did I use the word ''fradulent''?No, I didn't, and it's nothing funny about that ::) Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on July 05, 2022, 11:41:41 PM Speaking for cloudflare - some of the online exchangers from bestchange use it successfully and there are no mitm attacks or anything else The difference between them and your service is that they are exchangers (some of them are AML complaint) and yours is a mixing service. You do realize that when you start mixing coins, Governments and law enforcement agencies could start surveilling your service?How do you guarantee that your customers are safe from surveillance when your service is using Cloudflare? Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 06, 2022, 12:14:49 AM Speaking for cloudflare - some of the online exchangers from bestchange use it successfully and there are no mitm attacks or anything else The difference between them and your service is that they are exchangers (some of them are AML complaint) and yours is a mixing service. You do realize that when you start mixing coins, Governments and law enforcement agencies could start surveilling your service?How do you guarantee that your customers are safe from surveillance when your service is using Cloudflare? Blender.io was using cloudflare for years. Plenty of Russian darknet forums use or used cloudflare. If you have some other alternative but cloudflare let me know Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: LeGaulois on July 06, 2022, 11:16:11 PM I believe, the code could be improved
line 382 Code: <p>Haжимaя нa кнoпкy, вы дaётe coглacиe нa oбpaбoткy <a href="#">пepcoнaльныx дaнныx</a></p> and line 364 Code: <div class="modal__title"> they both seem not needed. About the piece of code below, how that come the stats are static? You edit them everyday, or? It should be dynamic. Sorry for the question but I started to wonder "this guy added random numbers to make it looking 'active' Code: <div class="monitor__table"> Good luck with your service. More mixers coming, better it is. Are you planning a Tor version? Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 07, 2022, 12:23:38 AM I believe, the code could be improved line 382 Code: <p>Haжимaя нa кнoпкy, вы дaётe coглacиe нa oбpaбoткy <a href="#">пepcoнaльныx дaнныx</a></p> and line 364 Code: <div class="modal__title"> they both seem not needed. About the piece of code below, how that come the stats are static? You edit them everyday, or? It should be dynamic. Sorry for the question but I started to wonder "this guy added random numbers to make it looking 'active' Code: <div class="monitor__table"> Good luck with your service. More mixers coming, better it is. Are you planning a Tor version? Those are stats from our tests. Try to make mix you will see that they're dynamic. The problem is that we almost don't have users yet that's why stats are fixed atm For those comments thanks will take a look Also let me know if you have problems with site loading because to my point of view this .gif is too way heavy and I'd remove it but maybe users don't have problems with site loading tor version is coming soon Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: hugeblack on July 07, 2022, 02:20:24 PM Blender.io was using cloudflare for years. Plenty of Russian darknet forums use or used cloudflare. If you have some other alternative but cloudflare let me know How will you ensure the privacy of customers or that their IP addresses will not be recorded or exchanged with third parties? We have seen many sites effected by massive DDOS attacks, but at least some of them have a Tor version, Hope to see it ASAP How long does the mixing process take? Is it constant or random and if it is random is it predictable? What is the source of the coins, meaning that you will mix the user's coins, or does the mixing process begin before depositing? Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: SFR10 on July 07, 2022, 02:22:13 PM In this case you will receive money of people who used mixer before you. Choose that mode if you
Personally, I wouldn't label it as "safe" if it's going to create a bridge between someone else's previous history and the other user!want to save on transaction fees but still remain anonymous and safe This mode allows crypto holders receiving completely clean and anonymous Bitcoins that come from I had a brief experience with a few analysis software tools in the past and IIRC, "most" exchanges returned with medium-risk ML scores!cryptocurrency exchanges and/or miners. Choose this mode if you want to receive completely clean coins with lowest available AML score percentage - Open statistics: in the mix monitor section you can see chart & latest mixes volumes If I were you, I'd remove that section completely [it's not that hard to connect the dots if everything you've listed in there is accurate]! - Unlimited max amount: Send any amount and mixing will go smoothly even if it's 10 BTC! A signed message would be nice :)Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 07, 2022, 03:17:46 PM Blender.io was using cloudflare for years. Plenty of Russian darknet forums use or used cloudflare. If you have some other alternative but cloudflare let me know How will you ensure the privacy of customers or that their IP addresses will not be recorded or exchanged with third parties? We have seen many sites effected by massive DDOS attacks, but at least some of them have a Tor version, Hope to see it ASAP How long does the mixing process take? Is it constant or random and if it is random is it predictable? What is the source of the coins, meaning that you will mix the user's coins, or does the mixing process begin before depositing? We don't store logs, it's mixer policy Mixing process takes up to few hours, starts once there is 1st confirmation on the blockchain. In the standard mix mode user will receive coins of previous mixer participants, in the clean mix mode - clean coins from exchanges In this case you will receive money of people who used mixer before you. Choose that mode if you
Personally, I wouldn't label it as "safe" if it's going to create a bridge between someone else's previous history and the other user!want to save on transaction fees but still remain anonymous and safe This mode allows crypto holders receiving completely clean and anonymous Bitcoins that come from I had a brief experience with a few analysis software tools in the past and IIRC, "most" exchanges returned with medium-risk ML scores!cryptocurrency exchanges and/or miners. Choose this mode if you want to receive completely clean coins with lowest available AML score percentage - Open statistics: in the mix monitor section you can see chart & latest mixes volumes If I were you, I'd remove that section completely [it's not that hard to connect the dots if everything you've listed in there is accurate]! - Unlimited max amount: Send any amount and mixing will go smoothly even if it's 10 BTC! A signed message would be nice :)For the standard mix mode it's relatively safe, you won't get your coins but will get someone else coins that's the idea [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Little Mouse on July 07, 2022, 06:15:17 PM I had a few minutes spent on the website and found a few spelling mistakes. Don't you think a professional business would cross-check a few times before launching the website? I don't think we are dealing with a professional team. At least, the website says so.
For unlimited amount - we have reserves and able to serve big amounts What's the maximum amount you allow? 10 BTC or 100 BTC or above? Never mind, would you mind signing from an address with a balance of 10 BTC? That would increase your trustworthiness. You don't have to share with me. In this case, you can trust LoyceV and I'm sure LoyceV won't share the PM with anyone else.Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 07, 2022, 08:08:17 PM I had a few minutes spent on the website and found a few spelling mistakes. Don't you think a professional business would cross-check a few times before launching the website? I don't think we are dealing with a professional team. At least, the website says so. For unlimited amount - we have reserves and able to serve big amounts What's the maximum amount you allow? 10 BTC or 100 BTC or above? Never mind, would you mind signing from an address with a balance of 10 BTC? That would increase your trustworthiness. You don't have to share with me. In this case, you can trust LoyceV and I'm sure LoyceV won't share the PM with anyone else.20 BTC per mix maximum at the moment Let me know for spelling mistakes where are they, we just launched and fixing them would take few mins Sgning is not safe, we will deposit soon around 40-50k$ on forums deposits, including wwh-club, exploit, xss and some others where we have advertisement or planning to have it, arranging this moment with project investors Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: dkbit98 on July 07, 2022, 08:58:08 PM Code: <p>Haжимaя нa кнoпкy, вы дaётe coглacиe нa oбpaбoткy <a href="#">пepcoнaльныx дaнныx</a></p> Shaker_finance I would suggest that you create and sponsor small campaign for testing your service, maybe some people will find bugs and examine how your website works. Similar mixing service have done something similar in past, and it could be good for everyone in future. Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 07, 2022, 09:00:33 PM Code: <p>Haжимaя нa кнoпкy, вы дaётe coглacиe нa oбpaбoткy <a href="#">пepcoнaльныx дaнныx</a></p> Shaker_finance I would suggest that you create and sponsor small campaign for testing your service, maybe some people will find bugs and examine how your website works. It's Russian language, this is fixed within few minutes, we will fix those things within 1-2 days. Launching signature campaign on bitcointalk for now Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: dkbit98 on July 07, 2022, 09:06:35 PM Launching signature campaign on bitcointalk for now Signature campaign is fine, but I was thinking about creating something like honest review campaign and testing from experienced forum members.It's not easy for people to trust new mixing service and it takes time to get trust from people, but at least we can compare your service with other well established mixers. Another thing you could do is to have open bounty reward for anyone who finds flaws in your website. Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 07, 2022, 09:08:30 PM Launching signature campaign on bitcointalk for now Signature campaign is fine, but I was thinking about creating something like honest review campaign and testing from experienced forum members.It's not easy for people to trust new mixing service and it takes time to get trust from people, but at least we can compare your service with other well established mixers. I will consider this thing, need some reviews in fact Do you have some topics-examples maybe ? Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on July 07, 2022, 11:13:01 PM Blender.io was using cloudflare for years. Plenty of Russian darknet forums use or used cloudflare. If you have some other alternative but cloudflare let me know Also, Blender.io "went MIA" all of a sudden.How come the US Authorities decided to sanction them (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5397593.0)? I am pretty sure they were surveilling them, and even they knew how the Korean hackers mixed the coins through the mixer. About the alternatives, that's your work to do, my friend. I am just helping you look at things from different angles, so you can improve on your service where necessary. Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 07, 2022, 11:47:10 PM Blender.io was using cloudflare for years. Plenty of Russian darknet forums use or used cloudflare. If you have some other alternative but cloudflare let me know Also, Blender.io "went MIA" all of a sudden.How come the US Authorities decided to sanction them (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5397593.0)? I am pretty sure they were surveilling them, and even they knew how the Korean hackers mixed the coins through the mixer. About the alternatives, that's your work to do, my friend. I am just helping you look at things from different angles, so you can improve on your service where necessary. It was probably scam exit after the case where money suddenly disappeared from their Blender wallet, you may read about it on the web Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: SFR10 on July 08, 2022, 05:50:28 AM For the standard mix mode it's relatively safe, you won't get your coins but will get someone else coins that's the idea Yes, I understood that part before and that's exactly why I think it's not that safe! Essentially, it'll lead to fusing two different digital footprints together [even if there's a single hop in-between] and that could go wrong in various ways [e.g. when an analysis company traces those transactions, there'll be collateral damage].Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Rikafip on July 08, 2022, 06:10:43 AM Do you have some topics-examples maybe ? Here is one of those review campaign done by another mixer service, Go-Overt Bitcoin Mixer review campaign. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267826.0) so you can see how that looks like. If you decide to start one of those, make sure to find an escrow that will hold the funds (or hire manager to do that for you) otherwise people won't join. Well, at least not experienced & reputable ones, and that's exactly who you want to join.Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 08, 2022, 06:14:45 AM Do you have some topics-examples maybe ? Here is one of those review campaign done by another mixer service, Go-Overt Bitcoin Mixer review campaign. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267826.0) so you can see how that looks like. If you decide to start one of those, make sure to find an escrow that will hold the funds (or hire manager to do that for you) otherwise people won't join. Well, at least not experienced & reputable ones, and that's exactly who you want to join.Thanks I guess will try this thing later, for now launching signature company Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: dkbit98 on July 08, 2022, 10:49:40 AM Do you have some topics-examples maybe ? Sure I know about few examples.This is how it all started for currently best Bitcoin mixer in the world Chipmixer, they first asked for alpha testers in 2017 and they still have one of the best campaigns in forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1923170.0 Mixtum had review campaign in 2019, and they are available in 2022: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140688.0 In 2020 there was testing campaign for MyCryptoMixer, but I think they are not available anymore on that address. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235467.0 Latest mixer review campaign was done by Unijoin few months ago in 2022: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391409.0 Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 08, 2022, 07:09:46 PM Do you have some topics-examples maybe ? Sure I know about few examples.This is how it all started for currently best Bitcoin mixer in the world Chipmixer, they first asked for alpha testers in 2017 and they still have one of the best campaigns in forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1923170.0 Mixtum had review campaign in 2019, and they are available in 2022: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140688.0 In 2020 there was testing campaign for MyCryptoMixer, but I think they are not available anymore on that address. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235467.0 Latest mixer review campaign was done by Unijoin few months ago in 2022: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391409.0 Thanks for those useful links. I guess will need to do this at least after we start signature campaign Also if you have any ideas on where to advertise besides bitcointalk (better with links) would be really helpful Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: dkbit98 on July 09, 2022, 10:55:38 AM Also if you have any ideas on where to advertise besides bitcointalk (better with links) would be really helpful I don't have any links like that.Bitcointalk is probably the best place for advertising services like this, but it needs need for you time to gain trust from customers and that is not easy, so better prepare for some harsh reviews. I guess you could always try with bitcoin magazines and independent article reviews from people who like privacy for their transactions. Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: LoyceV on July 11, 2022, 11:45:05 AM For unlimited amount - we have reserves and able to serve big amounts Sgning is not safe Combining those two statements is a very big red flag. Signing a message is an established method to provide proof of funds. Claiming you have "unlimited" amounts and refusing to prove even a tiny 10BTC balance doesn't inspire confidence.I also notice the typical buzz words on your website: Quote Use verified solutions for standard or clean mixing. And here too:Trusted and safe Those are claims customers could make after years of service, it's not something a newcomer should say about themselves.Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 12, 2022, 01:12:47 AM Working! Visit https://Shaker.finance to mix some BTC
By the way: we claim 20 BTC not unlimited, signing is not safe that's correct, we will deposit around 40k$ soon on forum deposits, still arranging that with investors Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: LoyceV on July 14, 2022, 11:21:47 AM signing is not safe that's correct Bitcoin mixers rely on trust. Lying is the one thing a Bitcoin mixer should never do. I've seen signed messages from addresses holding thousands of Bitcoins, and they didn't get stolen.Quote we will deposit around 40k$ soon on forum deposits There is no such thing as "forum deposits".Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 14, 2022, 01:31:12 PM Probably in your world there is no thing like forum deposits, no lie. There are trusted forums like exploit, xss and others that have them, you most probably never heard of them because spend time only on bitcointalk. We will do what we consider reasonable to do and not gonna rely only on bitcointalk marketing campaign
I understand that you are serious guy trying to make 1$ advertising chipmixer with your signature but we can do good without your advice Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: dkbit98 on July 14, 2022, 05:03:47 PM By the way: we claim 20 BTC not unlimited You claimed unlimited amount before, but later your changed it and lowered amount after your received feedback and suspicions from me and other members.Now you changed it to 20 BTC in first part of post, but below for reasons you still say there are No limits for max amount, even now. Here is archive of you post: Quote Minimum mixing amount is 0.005 BTC, maximum - any https://ninjastic.space/post/60503669... Unlimited max amount: Send any amount and mixing will go smoothly Probably in your world there is no thing like forum deposits, no lie. There are trusted forums like exploit, xss and others that have them, you most probably never heard of them because spend time only on bitcointalk. We will do what we consider reasonable to do and not gonna rely only on bitcointalk marketing campaign What happened with your news section and why you removed that other exploit forum link?I would never consider any forum like that to be trusted, and they can often be operated by the same individuals. If nobody can verify that deposit it means nothing for rest of the people. I understand that you are serious guy trying to make 1$ advertising chipmixer with your signature but we can do good without your advice 1$ really?! ::)I don't know how you made those calculations, but I don't think your math is good. I think you need to understand us, we saw so many scam mixers that it's only healthy to be a bit more suspicious about any new service like this. Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 14, 2022, 05:25:06 PM By the way: we claim 20 BTC not unlimited You claimed unlimited amount before, but later your changed it and lowered amount after your received feedback and suspicions from me and other members.Now you changed it to 20 BTC in first part of post, but below for reasons you still say there are No limits for max amount, even now. Here is archive of you post: Quote Minimum mixing amount is 0.005 BTC, maximum - any https://ninjastic.space/post/60503669... Unlimited max amount: Send any amount and mixing will go smoothly Probably in your world there is no thing like forum deposits, no lie. There are trusted forums like exploit, xss and others that have them, you most probably never heard of them because spend time only on bitcointalk. We will do what we consider reasonable to do and not gonna rely only on bitcointalk marketing campaign What happened with your news section and why you removed that other exploit forum link?I would never consider any forum like that to be trusted, and they can often be operated by the same individuals. If nobody can verify that deposit it means nothing for rest of the people. I understand that you are serious guy trying to make 1$ advertising chipmixer with your signature but we can do good without your advice 1$ really?! ::)I don't know how you made those calculations, but I don't think your math is good. I think you need to understand us, we saw so many scam mixers that it's only healthy to be a bit more suspicious about any new service like this. We are not on exploit yet, they asked for deposit and we still arranging that, once we have deposit will be reopened. I also have profile on exploit since 2016 And yes I understand your concerns, claiming unlimited and 20 BTC was actually the same to us, later changed that thing Speaking for 1$ - signature campaign posts cost 1-2$, I have one at the moment and they're around those prices we pay for posts By the way: we claim 20 BTC not unlimited You claimed unlimited amount before, but later your changed it and lowered amount after your received feedback and suspicions from me and other members.Now you changed it to 20 BTC in first part of post, but below for reasons you still say there are No limits for max amount, even now. Here is archive of you post: Quote Minimum mixing amount is 0.005 BTC, maximum - any https://ninjastic.space/post/60503669... Unlimited max amount: Send any amount and mixing will go smoothly Probably in your world there is no thing like forum deposits, no lie. There are trusted forums like exploit, xss and others that have them, you most probably never heard of them because spend time only on bitcointalk. We will do what we consider reasonable to do and not gonna rely only on bitcointalk marketing campaign What happened with your news section and why you removed that other exploit forum link?I would never consider any forum like that to be trusted, and they can often be operated by the same individuals. If nobody can verify that deposit it means nothing for rest of the people. I understand that you are serious guy trying to make 1$ advertising chipmixer with your signature but we can do good without your advice 1$ really?! ::)I don't know how you made those calculations, but I don't think your math is good. I think you need to understand us, we saw so many scam mixers that it's only healthy to be a bit more suspicious about any new service like this. Speaking for exploit, if you think it's not trusted that doesn't mean it's not trusted, people have 0.5-1 mln $ deposits here, you may register and take a look yourself. If you don't understand something that doesn't mean this doesn't work or doesn't exist I offer doing next way to stop this discussion because I don't like it: we wait until funds are deposited on forums, someone of people who has accounts on forums for example exploit, xss, wwh or other and who is trusted here proves deposits are real and legit and that's it, enough for proofs. I can't say how much time to wait, summer at the moment and part of the team at the vacations. Will be deposited around 30k$ for sure, maybe more Signing is useless either because any time mixer owner is able to do scam exit and all your signing won't help, otherwise in case you have deposits you will loose them [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: dkbit98 on July 15, 2022, 11:04:34 AM We are not on exploit yet, they asked for deposit and we still arranging that, once we have deposit will be reopened. I also have profile on exploit since 2016 I am sure that I saw Bitcointalk and Exploit forum links posted on your website (Exploit is now removed) and you already posted your jabber exploit contact before, so it looks someone is lying here.This was posted by you on July 4: In case you have questions related to mixing pm or write to jabber shakerfinance@exploit.im (preferred jabber, not always on forum) Speaking for exploit, if you think it's not trusted that doesn't mean it's not trusted, people have 0.5-1 mln $ deposits here, you may register and take a look yourself. If you don't understand something that doesn't mean this doesn't work or doesn't exist I don't trust something if I can't verify it, especially when we are talking about Bitcoin.You can deposit all your coins to ''trusted centralized exchanges'' and you could still lose it, let alone some russian forum that is dealing with exploited information. I offer doing next way to stop this discussion because I don't like it: we wait until funds are deposited on forums, someone of people who has accounts on forums for example exploit, xss, wwh or other and who is trusted here proves deposits are real and legit and that's it, enough for proofs. I can't say how much time to wait, summer at the moment and part of the team at the vacations. Will be deposited around 30k$ for sure, maybe more I don't know how anyone can prove that $30k (currently only around 1.4 BTC) is really deposited to forum owners... I guess they would have to trust their scout's honour word.You can do anything you like, it's your business, like it or not. Signing is useless either because any time mixer owner is able to do scam exit and all your signing won't help, otherwise in case you have deposits you will loose them And $30k held by some forum owners will help?Please give me a break... Signing your address is not some magical trick that prevents scam, it's just a way to proved that you really own enough Bitcoin at the moment. Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 15, 2022, 01:14:02 PM We are not on exploit yet, they asked for deposit and we still arranging that, once we have deposit will be reopened. I also have profile on exploit since 2016 I am sure that I saw Bitcointalk and Exploit forum links posted on your website (Exploit is now removed) and you already posted your jabber exploit contact before, so it looks someone is lying here.This was posted by you on July 4: In case you have questions related to mixing pm or write to jabber shakerfinance@exploit.im (preferred jabber, not always on forum) Speaking for exploit, if you think it's not trusted that doesn't mean it's not trusted, people have 0.5-1 mln $ deposits here, you may register and take a look yourself. If you don't understand something that doesn't mean this doesn't work or doesn't exist I don't trust something if I can't verify it, especially when we are talking about Bitcoin.You can deposit all your coins to ''trusted centralized exchanges'' and you could still lose it, let alone some russian forum that is dealing with exploited information. I offer doing next way to stop this discussion because I don't like it: we wait until funds are deposited on forums, someone of people who has accounts on forums for example exploit, xss, wwh or other and who is trusted here proves deposits are real and legit and that's it, enough for proofs. I can't say how much time to wait, summer at the moment and part of the team at the vacations. Will be deposited around 30k$ for sure, maybe more I don't know how anyone can prove that $30k (currently only around 1.4 BTC) is really deposited to forum owners... I guess they would have to trust their scout's honour word.You can do anything you like, it's your business, like it or not. Signing is useless either because any time mixer owner is able to do scam exit and all your signing won't help, otherwise in case you have deposits you will loose them And $30k held by some forum owners will help?Please give me a break... Signing your address is not some magical trick that prevents scam, it's just a way to proved that you really own enough Bitcoin at the moment. I posted link that we're on exploit, topic was opened then moderators leaved it for review until deposit is sent. So only you lie here, I say how it works 30k$ held by some trusted forum will help, you can go for arbitrage and receive those 30k$, that's what for forum deposits are used. But you won't even go and check it because it's easier to flame on my topic and get 1-2$ for advertising chipmixer lol... Enough talks here, find someone who is from exploit or xss and who have trusted acc here and ask them wether those forums deposits value or not Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: dkbit98 on July 15, 2022, 01:22:49 PM I posted link that we're on exploit, topic was opened then moderators leaved it for review until deposit is sent. So only you lie here I lied about what exactly?!You just publicly confirmed eveything I said, and you had that link for exploit forum. But you won't even go and check it because it's easier to flame on my topic and get 1-2$ for advertising chipmixer lol... One more lie coming from you.I did check exploit forum that is why I could ask you that question, and Chipmixer is not paying 1-2$ for advertisement, so please do your own research before posting some crap like this. I am considering Shaker finance mixer to be high risk and potential scam, until proven otherwise. Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 15, 2022, 01:25:38 PM I posted link that we're on exploit, topic was opened then moderators leaved it for review until deposit is sent. So only you lie here I lied about what exactly?!You just publicly confirmed eveything I said, and you had that link for exploit forum. But you won't even go and check it because it's easier to flame on my topic and get 1-2$ for advertising chipmixer lol... One more lie coming from you.I did check exploit forum that is why I could ask you that question, and Chipmixer is not paying 1-2$ for advertisement, so please do your own research before posting some crap like this. I am considering Shaker finance mixer to be high risk and potential scam, until proven otherwise. I told you that we had topic opened, after few days it had gone for review until they get deposit, what's not clear here ??!!!!! You lie here only and try to interpret my words absolutely other way for some reason You are piece of shit spamming on my topic, that's what is going on now, and yes I try to be polite with people but not with assholes Okay don't use Shaker.finance mixer because it won't sign address but stop this bullshit flood on this topic We don't want to argue with anybody but try to behave like normal people with normal questions, we are opened for your questions and explain things until you start behaving aggressive Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Little Mouse on July 17, 2022, 06:07:39 AM We don't want to argue with anybody but try to behave like normal people with normal questions, we are opened for your questions and explain things until you start behaving aggressive Before starting a business, you should learn to be professional. I have told you that you have few spelling mistakes in the website, there are still few mistakes I can see.You could provide a signed message from an address which have the balance of maximum amount allowed for mixing in your website. In this way, you could increase the trustworthiness. You are not the first mixer who denied to sign a message, you are not the first mixer which have been asked to sign a message. I have seen other mixing threads where community asked for signed message and they provide signed message. This mixer still exists for years and have no bad reputation. You didn’t follow anything, nor you have behaved professionally with forum user. I don't think your mixer is a good one, nor would I recommend to anyone to use this. Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 17, 2022, 09:31:52 AM We don't want to argue with anybody but try to behave like normal people with normal questions, we are opened for your questions and explain things until you start behaving aggressive Before starting a business, you should learn to be professional. I have told you that you have few spelling mistakes in the website, there are still few mistakes I can see.You could provide a signed message from an address which have the balance of maximum amount allowed for mixing in your website. In this way, you could increase the trustworthiness. You are not the first mixer who denied to sign a message, you are not the first mixer which have been asked to sign a message. I have seen other mixing threads where community asked for signed message and they provide signed message. This mixer still exists for years and have no bad reputation. You didn’t follow anything, nor you have behaved professionally with forum user. I don't think your mixer is a good one, nor would I recommend to anyone to use this. I don't care what you think at all and I'm professional until people start behaving way aggressive. All things were explained with pros and cons. We are open for questions but not when people behave that way. Toxic commentators are nowhere welcomed Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Little Mouse on July 17, 2022, 09:55:02 AM We are open for questions but not when people behave that way. You are open for questions. Okay.Let me start from the begining. Do you have enough fund to allow people mix 20 BTC? Please be straight forward on your answer. Also, if you have 20 BTC, how do people know that? How do they trust you? All these questions are toxic to the people who are not planning to operate the business actually. I really hope that you are here with business purpose, not for scam but I doubt that since you are not behaving/acting in a way which shows some trustworthiness. Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 17, 2022, 11:43:08 AM We are open for questions but not when people behave that way. You are open for questions. Okay.Let me start from the begining. Do you have enough fund to allow people mix 20 BTC? Please be straight forward on your answer. Also, if you have 20 BTC, how do people know that? How do they trust you? All these questions are toxic to the people who are not planning to operate the business actually. I really hope that you are here with business purpose, not for scam but I doubt that since you are not behaving/acting in a way which shows some trustworthiness. Read again what I've written before, I've mentioned forum deposits that we are gonna place soon around 40k$, trust or not - up to you, we don't make anyone trust Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Little Mouse on July 17, 2022, 03:51:19 PM Read again what I've written before, I've mentioned forum deposits that we are gonna place soon around 40k$, trust or not - up to you, we don't make anyone trust There are trusted forums like exploit, xss and others that have them, you most probably never heard of them because spend time only on bitcointalk. Your shared forum deposits or whatever it is won't work for you, man. Apart from that, you can still scam 20 BTC since the forum deposit is $40k. Thanks for your shit lie. I'm out with the same impression I had earlier that yopur mixer is most likely a scam. Anyone dealing with this mixer is at great risk of l;osing the fund for sure. Title: Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ Post by: Shaker_finance on July 17, 2022, 03:57:01 PM You are one more retard liar asshole. So when you sign you can't take those 20 BTC ?? WTF is this bullshit you are writing. You may sign and then easily take those 20 BTC same way.
If you don't trust - stay away and don't use mixer, no one makes you trust it okay And yes once again - I try to be polite with people when they ask reasonable, normal questions but not when they start writing insults, flame and behave the way you can see on my topic.... More info on wether your personal dislike matters can be found here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5406629.0 Guys stop this flame on my topic, that doesn't help project, that doesn't help anyone. Just ask really specific questions, share your usage experience etc, enough flame, if you want to flame create other topic and do it here |