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[Rikafip]

Do you have some topics-examples maybe ?

Here is one of those review campaign done by another mixer service, Go-Overt Bitcoin Mixer review campaign. so you can see how that looks like. If you decide to start one of those, make sure to find an escrow that will hold the funds (or hire manager to do that for you) otherwise people won't join. Well, at least not experienced & reputable ones, and that's exactly who you want to join.

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[Shaker_finance]

Do you have some topics-examples maybe ?

Here is one of those review campaign done by another mixer service, Go-Overt Bitcoin Mixer review campaign. so you can see how that looks like. If you decide to start one of those, make sure to find an escrow that will hold the funds (or hire manager to do that for you) otherwise people won't join. Well, at least not experienced & reputable ones, and that's exactly who you want to join.

Thanks I guess will try this thing later, for now launching signature company

[dkbit98]

Do you have some topics-examples maybe ?

Sure I know about few examples.
This is how it all started for currently best Bitcoin mixer in the world Chipmixer, they first asked for alpha testers in 2017 and they still have one of the best campaigns in forum:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1923170.0

Mixtum had review campaign in 2019, and they are available in 2022:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140688.0

In 2020 there was testing campaign for MyCryptoMixer, but I think they are not available anymore on that address.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235467.0

Latest mixer review campaign was done by Unijoin few months ago in 2022:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391409.0

[Shaker_finance]

Do you have some topics-examples maybe ?

Sure I know about few examples.
This is how it all started for currently best Bitcoin mixer in the world Chipmixer, they first asked for alpha testers in 2017 and they still have one of the best campaigns in forum:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1923170.0

Mixtum had review campaign in 2019, and they are available in 2022:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140688.0

In 2020 there was testing campaign for MyCryptoMixer, but I think they are not available anymore on that address.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235467.0

Latest mixer review campaign was done by Unijoin few months ago in 2022:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391409.0

Thanks for those useful links. I guess will need to do this at least after we start signature campaign

Also if you have any ideas on where to advertise besides bitcointalk (better with links) would be really helpful

[dkbit98]

Also if you have any ideas on where to advertise besides bitcointalk (better with links) would be really helpful

I don't have any links like that.
Bitcointalk is probably the best place for advertising services like this, but it needs need for you  time to gain trust from customers and that is not easy, so better prepare for some harsh reviews.
I guess you could always try with bitcoin magazines and independent article reviews from people who like privacy for their transactions.

[LoyceV]

For unlimited amount - we have reserves and able to serve big amounts

Sgning is not safe

Combining those two statements is a very big red flag. Signing a message is an established method to provide proof of funds. Claiming you have "unlimited" amounts and refusing to prove even a tiny 10BTC balance doesn't inspire confidence.

I also notice the typical buzz words on your website:

Use verified solutions for standard or clean mixing.

And here too:

Trusted and safe

Those are claims customers could make after years of service, it's not something a newcomer should say about themselves.

[Shaker_finance]

Working! Visit https://Shaker.finance to mix some BTC

By the way: we claim 20 BTC not unlimited, signing is not safe that's correct, we will deposit around 40k$ soon on forum deposits, still arranging that with investors

[LoyceV]

signing is not safe that's correct

Bitcoin mixers rely on trust. Lying is the one thing a Bitcoin mixer should never do. I've seen signed messages from addresses holding thousands of Bitcoins, and they didn't get stolen.

we will deposit around 40k$ soon on forum deposits

There is no such thing as "forum deposits".

[Shaker_finance]

Probably in your world there is no thing like forum deposits, no lie. There are trusted forums like exploit, xss and others that have them, you most probably never heard of them because spend time only on bitcointalk. We will do what we consider reasonable to do and not gonna rely only on bitcointalk marketing campaign

I understand that you are serious guy trying to make 1$ advertising chipmixer with your signature but we can do good without your advice

[dkbit98]

By the way: we claim 20 BTC not unlimited

You claimed unlimited amount before, but later your changed it and lowered amount after your received feedback and suspicions from me and other members.
Now you changed it to 20 BTC in first part of post, but below for reasons you still say there are No limits for max amount, even now.

Here is archive of you post:

Minimum mixing amount is 0.005 BTC, maximum - any
...
Unlimited max amount: Send any amount and mixing will go smoothly

https://ninjastic.space/post/60503669

Probably in your world there is no thing like forum deposits, no lie. There are trusted forums like exploit, xss and others that have them, you most probably never heard of them because spend time only on bitcointalk. We will do what we consider reasonable to do and not gonna rely only on bitcointalk marketing campaign

What happened with your news section and why you removed that other exploit forum link?
I would never consider any forum like that to be trusted, and they can often be operated by the same individuals.
If nobody can verify that deposit it means nothing for rest of the people.

I understand that you are serious guy trying to make 1$ advertising chipmixer with your signature but we can do good without your advice

1$ really?!  
I don't know how you made those calculations, but I don't think your math is good.
I think you need to understand us, we saw so many scam mixers that it's only healthy to be a bit more suspicious about any new service like this.

[Shaker_finance]

By the way: we claim 20 BTC not unlimited

You claimed unlimited amount before, but later your changed it and lowered amount after your received feedback and suspicions from me and other members.
Now you changed it to 20 BTC in first part of post, but below for reasons you still say there are No limits for max amount, even now.

Here is archive of you post:

Minimum mixing amount is 0.005 BTC, maximum - any
...
Unlimited max amount: Send any amount and mixing will go smoothly

https://ninjastic.space/post/60503669

Probably in your world there is no thing like forum deposits, no lie. There are trusted forums like exploit, xss and others that have them, you most probably never heard of them because spend time only on bitcointalk. We will do what we consider reasonable to do and not gonna rely only on bitcointalk marketing campaign

What happened with your news section and why you removed that other exploit forum link?
I would never consider any forum like that to be trusted, and they can often be operated by the same individuals.
If nobody can verify that deposit it means nothing for rest of the people.

I understand that you are serious guy trying to make 1$ advertising chipmixer with your signature but we can do good without your advice

1$ really?! 
I don't know how you made those calculations, but I don't think your math is good.
I think you need to understand us, we saw so many scam mixers that it's only healthy to be a bit more suspicious about any new service like this.

We are not on exploit yet, they asked for deposit and we still arranging that, once we have deposit will be reopened. I also have profile on exploit since 2016

And yes I understand your concerns, claiming unlimited and 20 BTC was actually the same to us, later changed that thing

Speaking for 1$ - signature campaign posts cost 1-2$, I have one at the moment and they're around those prices we pay for posts

By the way: we claim 20 BTC not unlimited

You claimed unlimited amount before, but later your changed it and lowered amount after your received feedback and suspicions from me and other members.
Now you changed it to 20 BTC in first part of post, but below for reasons you still say there are No limits for max amount, even now.

Here is archive of you post:

Minimum mixing amount is 0.005 BTC, maximum - any
...
Unlimited max amount: Send any amount and mixing will go smoothly

https://ninjastic.space/post/60503669

Probably in your world there is no thing like forum deposits, no lie. There are trusted forums like exploit, xss and others that have them, you most probably never heard of them because spend time only on bitcointalk. We will do what we consider reasonable to do and not gonna rely only on bitcointalk marketing campaign

What happened with your news section and why you removed that other exploit forum link?
I would never consider any forum like that to be trusted, and they can often be operated by the same individuals.
If nobody can verify that deposit it means nothing for rest of the people.

I understand that you are serious guy trying to make 1$ advertising chipmixer with your signature but we can do good without your advice

1$ really?! 
I don't know how you made those calculations, but I don't think your math is good.
I think you need to understand us, we saw so many scam mixers that it's only healthy to be a bit more suspicious about any new service like this.

Speaking for exploit, if you think it's not trusted that doesn't mean it's not trusted, people have 0.5-1 mln $ deposits here, you may register and take a look yourself. If you don't understand something that doesn't mean this doesn't work or doesn't exist

I offer doing next way to stop this discussion because I don't like it: we wait until funds are deposited on forums, someone of people who has accounts on forums for example exploit, xss, wwh or other and who is trusted here proves deposits are real and legit and that's it, enough for proofs. I can't say how much time to wait, summer at the moment and part of the team at the vacations. Will be deposited around 30k$ for sure, maybe more

Signing is useless either because any time mixer owner is able to do scam exit and all your signing won't help, otherwise in case you have deposits you will loose them

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[dkbit98]

We are not on exploit yet, they asked for deposit and we still arranging that, once we have deposit will be reopened. I also have profile on exploit since 2016

I am sure that I saw Bitcointalk and Exploit forum links posted on your website (Exploit is now removed) and you already posted your jabber exploit contact before, so it looks someone is lying here.
This was posted by you on July 4:

In case you have questions related to mixing pm or write to jabber shakerfinance@exploit.im (preferred jabber, not always on forum)

Speaking for exploit, if you think it's not trusted that doesn't mean it's not trusted, people have 0.5-1 mln $ deposits here, you may register and take a look yourself. If you don't understand something that doesn't mean this doesn't work or doesn't exist

I don't trust something if I can't verify it, especially when we are talking about Bitcoin.
You can deposit all your coins to ''trusted centralized exchanges'' and you could still lose it, let alone some russian forum that is dealing with exploited information.

I offer doing next way to stop this discussion because I don't like it: we wait until funds are deposited on forums, someone of people who has accounts on forums for example exploit, xss, wwh or other and who is trusted here proves deposits are real and legit and that's it, enough for proofs. I can't say how much time to wait, summer at the moment and part of the team at the vacations. Will be deposited around 30k$ for sure, maybe more

I don't know how anyone can prove that $30k (currently only around 1.4 BTC) is really deposited to forum owners... I guess they would have to trust their scout's honour word.
You can do anything you like, it's your business, like it or not.  

Signing is useless either because any time mixer owner is able to do scam exit and all your signing won't help, otherwise in case you have deposits you will loose them

And $30k held by some forum owners will help?
Please give me a break...
Signing your address is not some magical trick that prevents scam, it's just a way to proved that you really own enough Bitcoin at the moment.

[Shaker_finance]

We are not on exploit yet, they asked for deposit and we still arranging that, once we have deposit will be reopened. I also have profile on exploit since 2016

I am sure that I saw Bitcointalk and Exploit forum links posted on your website (Exploit is now removed) and you already posted your jabber exploit contact before, so it looks someone is lying here.
This was posted by you on July 4:

In case you have questions related to mixing pm or write to jabber shakerfinance@exploit.im (preferred jabber, not always on forum)

Speaking for exploit, if you think it's not trusted that doesn't mean it's not trusted, people have 0.5-1 mln $ deposits here, you may register and take a look yourself. If you don't understand something that doesn't mean this doesn't work or doesn't exist

I don't trust something if I can't verify it, especially when we are talking about Bitcoin.
You can deposit all your coins to ''trusted centralized exchanges'' and you could still lose it, let alone some russian forum that is dealing with exploited information.

I offer doing next way to stop this discussion because I don't like it: we wait until funds are deposited on forums, someone of people who has accounts on forums for example exploit, xss, wwh or other and who is trusted here proves deposits are real and legit and that's it, enough for proofs. I can't say how much time to wait, summer at the moment and part of the team at the vacations. Will be deposited around 30k$ for sure, maybe more

I don't know how anyone can prove that $30k (currently only around 1.4 BTC) is really deposited to forum owners... I guess they would have to trust their scout's honour word.
You can do anything you like, it's your business, like it or not.  

Signing is useless either because any time mixer owner is able to do scam exit and all your signing won't help, otherwise in case you have deposits you will loose them

And $30k held by some forum owners will help?
Please give me a break...
Signing your address is not some magical trick that prevents scam, it's just a way to proved that you really own enough Bitcoin at the moment.

I posted link that we're on exploit, topic was opened then moderators leaved it for review until deposit is sent. So only you lie here, I say how it works
30k$ held by some trusted forum will help, you can go for arbitrage and receive those 30k$, that's what for forum deposits are used. But you won't even go and check it because it's easier to flame on my topic and get 1-2$ for advertising chipmixer lol...

Enough talks here, find someone who is from exploit or xss and who have trusted acc here and ask them wether those forums deposits value or not

[dkbit98]

I posted link that we're on exploit, topic was opened then moderators leaved it for review until deposit is sent. So only you lie here

I lied about what exactly?!
You just publicly confirmed eveything I said, and you had that link for exploit forum.

But you won't even go and check it because it's easier to flame on my topic and get 1-2$ for advertising chipmixer lol...

One more lie coming from you.
I did check exploit forum that is why I could ask you that question, and Chipmixer is not paying 1-2$ for advertisement, so please do your own research before posting some crap like this.
I am considering Shaker finance mixer to be high risk and potential scam, until proven otherwise.

[Shaker_finance]

I posted link that we're on exploit, topic was opened then moderators leaved it for review until deposit is sent. So only you lie here

I lied about what exactly?!
You just publicly confirmed eveything I said, and you had that link for exploit forum.

But you won't even go and check it because it's easier to flame on my topic and get 1-2$ for advertising chipmixer lol...

One more lie coming from you.
I did check exploit forum that is why I could ask you that question, and Chipmixer is not paying 1-2$ for advertisement, so please do your own research before posting some crap like this.
I am considering Shaker finance mixer to be high risk and potential scam, until proven otherwise.

I told you that we had topic opened, after few days it had gone for review until they get deposit, what's not clear here ??!!!!! You lie here only and try to interpret my words absolutely other way for some reason

You are piece of shit spamming on my topic, that's what is going on now, and yes I try to be polite with people but not with assholes

Okay don't use Shaker.finance mixer because it won't sign address but stop this bullshit flood on this topic



We don't want to argue with anybody but try to behave like normal people with normal questions, we are opened for your questions and explain things until you start behaving aggressive

[Little Mouse]

We don't want to argue with anybody but try to behave like normal people with normal questions, we are opened for your questions and explain things until you start behaving aggressive

Before starting a business, you should learn to be professional. I have told you that you have few spelling mistakes in the website, there are still few mistakes I can see.
You could provide a signed message from an address which have the balance of maximum amount allowed for mixing in your website. In this way, you could increase the trustworthiness. You are not the first mixer who denied to sign a message, you are not the first mixer which have been asked to sign a message. I have seen other mixing threads where community asked for signed message and they provide signed message. This mixer still exists for years and have no bad reputation.

You didn’t follow anything, nor you have behaved professionally with forum user.
I don't think your mixer is a good one, nor would I recommend to anyone to use this.

[Shaker_finance]

We don't want to argue with anybody but try to behave like normal people with normal questions, we are opened for your questions and explain things until you start behaving aggressive

Before starting a business, you should learn to be professional. I have told you that you have few spelling mistakes in the website, there are still few mistakes I can see.
You could provide a signed message from an address which have the balance of maximum amount allowed for mixing in your website. In this way, you could increase the trustworthiness. You are not the first mixer who denied to sign a message, you are not the first mixer which have been asked to sign a message. I have seen other mixing threads where community asked for signed message and they provide signed message. This mixer still exists for years and have no bad reputation.

You didn’t follow anything, nor you have behaved professionally with forum user.
I don't think your mixer is a good one, nor would I recommend to anyone to use this.

I don't care what you think at all and I'm professional until people start behaving way aggressive. All things were explained with pros and cons. We are open for questions but not when people behave that way. Toxic commentators are nowhere welcomed

[Little Mouse]

We are open for questions but not when people behave that way.

You are open for questions. Okay.
Let me start from the begining.
Do you have enough fund to allow people mix 20 BTC? Please be straight forward on your answer. Also, if you have 20 BTC, how do people know that? How do they trust you?

All these questions are toxic to the people who are not planning to operate the business actually. I really hope that you are here with business purpose, not for scam but I doubt that since you are not behaving/acting in a way which shows some trustworthiness.

[Shaker_finance]

We are open for questions but not when people behave that way.

You are open for questions. Okay.
Let me start from the begining.
Do you have enough fund to allow people mix 20 BTC? Please be straight forward on your answer. Also, if you have 20 BTC, how do people know that? How do they trust you?

All these questions are toxic to the people who are not planning to operate the business actually. I really hope that you are here with business purpose, not for scam but I doubt that since you are not behaving/acting in a way which shows some trustworthiness.

Read again what I've written before, I've mentioned forum deposits that we are gonna place soon around 40k$, trust or not - up to you, we don't make anyone trust

[Little Mouse]

Read again what I've written before, I've mentioned forum deposits that we are gonna place soon around 40k$, trust or not - up to you, we don't make anyone trust

There are trusted forums like exploit, xss and others that have them, you most probably never heard of them because spend time only on bitcointalk.

Your shared forum deposits or whatever it is won't work for you, man. Apart from that, you can still scam 20 BTC since the forum deposit is $40k. Thanks for your shit lie. I'm out with the same impression I had earlier that yopur mixer is most likely a scam. Anyone dealing with this mixer is at great risk of l;osing the fund for sure.