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Title: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on July 13, 2022, 08:45:47 PM
Straight to the Discussion.

Overtime, I've read a lot of posts on ideas, comments, suggestions, or maybe I've posted a few myself, on features that should be implemented, or shouldn't be implemented, removed from Bitcointalk to make it better for all, this ideas, suggestions are either supported by many and rejected by a few, or rejected by many and supported by a few, still does not make any difference because Bitcointalk continues to remain as it is , lol  ;D.

But today, I want each and every one of us to be the Boss, its a simple question, Assume yourself as the boss who oversees all the affairs of this forum,
-How are you going to make this forum better than it currently is?
-Are you going to implement new features? what would it be and how would it benefit the community?
-Are you likely to remove a feature or two? what feature would you remove and why would you remove it/them?
-Will you redesign the forum?, what color(s) and designs do you think would suit the forum better?
-Will prefer to change the way the forum is being moderated? what would be the new mode of moderation by you?
-Or would you rather leave(run) the forum as it currently is ?

The above are just question templates, use it or make something entirely new.

To begin the Discussion--

If I was the Boss seeing over the affairs of Bitcointalk, I would implement a non-custodian Bitcoin wallet to the forum.
Reasons:-
-Bitcointalk is strongly part of Bitcoin's History,  this meaning that the history of Bitcoin cant be discussed without mentioning Bitcointalk, so i feel its not out of place if Bitcointalk has a Bitcoin wallet built into it.
 -Since a lot of Bitcoin transactions happen amongst the forum users everyday, having this feature will make sending and receiving Bitcoins amongst forum users very convenient.  

So what about you ? How would you make Bitcointalk better if you were the Boss ?


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Stalker22 on July 13, 2022, 09:26:35 PM
So what about you ? How would you make Bitcointalk better if you were the Boss ?

In the first place, I would make it more accessible for mobile platforms. No matter if it's just a responsive design or a dedicated app, this forum needs to keep up with modern technologies.
I am aware that this is very hard, considering the scale of this forum and how many users it has, but I think that it is possible.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Z-tight on July 13, 2022, 10:01:35 PM
Maybe bitcointalk just works fine the way it is, if i or any other member were the boss we probably might have made big changes, or set hard rules that will run the forum down and decrease its traffic, i know Theymos doesn't make changes too often, but that might be a good thing for the seamless running of the forum.

If i were indeed the boss i do not think i'd be able to make bitcointalk better than it already is, without ruining a lot of other things in the process, so no need.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Igebotz on July 13, 2022, 10:43:12 PM
-Are you going to implement new features? what would it be and how would it benefit the community?
Yes! After 6 months, derank banned accounts and return all earned merits to their original source.

To prevent merit abuse, implement a merit cap for legendary members.

Post jail for detrust members having 10 red tags automatically restrict you from posting; this is the only valid way to fight scammers since it is not moderated and the only way to stop puppets promoting scam projects.

Create a mobile BTT app.

Create at least one African local board. Bitcoin is for everyone.

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-Are you likely to remove a feature or two? what feature would you remove and why would you remove it/them?
So many things to remove but I would rather not say.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 13, 2022, 10:50:10 PM
Me, I'd start handing out bright red MBTCTBA hats and play a snazzy tune (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zNG63rf9LQ) as my anthem, probably as one of those midi files or whatever they were in the late 90s/early 2000s that were embedded in websites and had to be manually turned off. 

Then I'd get to work snuffing out the shitposters and bring back the Old Scammer Tag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=330472) system and probably newbie jail too.

In other words, you wouldn't want me as the boss of this forum.  And I have to say, after thinking about the question for a while I give a lot of credit to Theymos for not micromanaging the forum--I don't know what kind of guidance he gives the mods, but since everything is pretty chill around here and rules aren't exceedingly restrictive, I think he probably gives them a lot of leeway in terms of what they can do.  So props to Theymos for that.

-Bitcointalk is strongly part of Bitcoin's History,  this meaning that the history of Bitcoin cant be discussed without mentioning Bitcointalk, so i feel its not out of place if Bitcointalk has a Bitcoin wallet built into it.
It is a big part of bitcoin's history, but not to the outside world.  By that I mean when articles are published about the origins of bitcoin, they usually never mention bitcointalk.  I saw it mentioned in Digital Gold (great book, BTW), but even there it was simply to describe how Satoshi and the early bitcoiners communicated.  The 10,000BTC pizza thread was mentioned as well.

As far as the wallet idea goes, if it were a web wallet I wouldn't offer it.  But if it was a downloadable wallet that was just a bitcointalk-branded one, I think that would be a neat idea.  There are so many bitcoin wallets out there already, though.  On the other hand if I was the boss man, I might be inclined to use some of that donation money in the treasury to create something like that.  I certainly would hire a team of coders and fix a ton of fucking issues that members keep bringing up and which die faster than a dime store goldfish.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Benkbeny on July 13, 2022, 11:52:13 PM
Straight to the Discussion.

Overtime, I've read a lot of posts on ideas, comments, suggestions, or maybe I've posted a few myself, on features that should be implemented, or shouldn't be implemented, removed from Bitcointalk to make it better for all, this ideas, suggestions are either supported by many and rejected by a few, or rejected by many and supported by a few, still does not make any difference because Bitcointalk continues to remain as it is , lol  ;D.

But today, I want each and every one of us to be the Boss, its a simple question, Assume yourself as the boss who oversees all the affairs of this forum,
-How are you going to make this forum better than it currently is?
-Are you going to implement new features? what would it be and how would it benefit the community?
-Are you likely to remove a feature or two? what feature would you remove and why would you remove it/them?
-Will you redesign the forum?, what color(s) and designs do you think would suit the forum better?
-Will prefer to change the way the forum is being moderated? what would be the new mode of moderation by you?
-Or would you rather leave(run) the forum as it currently is ?

The above are just question templates, use it or make something entirely new.

To begin the Discussion--

If I was the Boss seeing over the affairs of Bitcointalk, I would implement a non-custodian Bitcoin wallet to the forum.
Reasons:-
-Bitcointalk is strongly part of Bitcoin's History,  this meaning that the history of Bitcoin cant be discussed without mentioning Bitcointalk, so i feel its not out of place if Bitcointalk has a Bitcoin wallet built into it.
 -Since a lot of Bitcoin transactions happen amongst the forum users everyday, having this feature will make sending and receiving Bitcoins amongst forum users very convenient.  

So what about you ? How would you make Bitcointalk better if you were the Boss ?
To me, I don't see need for having bitcoin wallet embedded into the forum reason is because bitcoin transaction is cheap and cost less and wallet already available. Forum here more like other social media platform whee people with specific goal meet and chat over a topic.
If you ask me, This ecosystem is wide and there a lot to be considered here;
1: Bounty Area need concentration, a lot of company coming go host project need to be screen because a lot of them are scams and they end up bringing negative feedback on the forum.
2: Merit Earning: Before anyone can earn merit this day it's seems the person need to be identified with any higher rank that can give merit. Because I have come to discovered people don't longer give merit or either people sell it or greedy with it or does this mean people are no longer interested in reading peoples post?. I urge theymo to look into that
3: it's true this forum have over stayed and it's high time for us to have web Application build on playstore.
4: I think there is abuse of the forum maybe as result that it cost nothing to create an account.
So to avoid traffic and illegal use of the forum I suggest there should fee to attach to everyone new account creation.
5: Newbie are not longer given positive attention rather all they got is negative feedback and these scaring. If I am the Boss I will remove that barrier and rather make users with high rank to read newbies post in other to give them merit.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: SquirrelJulietGarden on July 14, 2022, 12:57:31 AM
Does Boss equal to Lead Admin like theymos, Cyrus ?

Me, go ahead
- Require all user to learn about Bitcoin and force them to sign a Bitcoin message, for ownership proof, stake it in an official topic of the forum
- Use the ban hammer on plagiarism and don't ignore plagiarism.
- Alternative bans for users with plagiarism but has good net effects: ban from posting a month, 6 month. Signature ban 6 month, 1 year, 2 year.
- Transit the SMF forum to Epochtalk forum software. We are waiting for the new forum
- Require altcoin projects to run their bounties with Bitcoin, not with their tokens

Check the to-do list and rework: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4893744.msg44432901#msg44432901

If I was theymos, I would turn off my computer when I see this list. Headache  :-\
I'm not going to respond here in detail to all of these ideas. It'd be extremely long. I will classify them as OK/maybe/no:

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• A newbie welcome message or link to a welcome thread upon sign-up explaining the basic rules and links to everything they need to know including the full forum rules, helpful guides and FAQs etc. No excuses for not knowing the rules then.
• Dedicated sub board mods for most boards that don't have any mods or non-global mods already assigned (Bitcoin Discussion, Beginners & Help, Off Topic etc).
• More patrollers/mods who just handle sig spam or farmers.
• Restoring the memberlist search and stats (very useful for finding huge farming abuses).
• Enforce the sig campaign guidelines. If a campaign is spotted that is doing little to nothing and is abused en mass by spammers, farmers, bots and copy and pasters they are warned. If nothing changes then they are punished with such things as bans, threads trashed, signatures blacklisted site-wide etc.
• A 'bump button' for the marketplace that only allows you to bump your thread once every 24 hours. Manually bumping by posting will then be disallowed. As mentioned above, posts by lower ranked accounts could not be able to bump threads thus curbing potential abuse.
• A report queue for reported messages. Currently every global and admin are spammed by any reported message and half of the time when you go to handle it it has already been handled, thus wasting everybody's time.
• More admins or demi-admins added to help with account recoveries and other admin duties.
• A captcha added to a user's first post or two/three etc to curb bot usage (purchasing a Copper Membership could remove these).
• Require email verification for new accounts.
• Require email verification first before passwords/emails are changed.
• A Beginners and Help board for the Alt Coin section (the bitcoin one is mostly swamped with alt coin and bounty-related issues).
• Add badges as a reward for high reporters and/or merited users (some perks would also be nice). Maybe we could have a 'most merited' user of the month badge. Prizes or awards could be given at the end of the month/year for the biggest rats/grasses/ass-kissers merited users or reporters.
• More options for self-moderated threads (being able to limit participation to certain ranks ie no Newbies or Juniors etc or banning certain users from being able to post in your thread at all to stop trolls and personal attacks etc).
• Signature bans. Bans that remove the signature for x amount of time or even permanently (actually proposed by theymos but never followed up on). Being able to blacklist an entire campaign's signature would also be helpful for those campaigns that refuse to do anything about spam.
• Certain sub boards shouldn't count to post count or activity (Bounties, Games & Rounds and possibly Off Topic).
• Awarding merit doesn't take you to a new page. Clicking the merit button multiple times could pump up the merit one by one. This would make awarding merit much swifter and less annoying.

OK in principle, would require thought/adjustment/implementation. Many of these things are more complex than they look at first glance.

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• Charging ICOs a fee to make their ANN here. You could even get rid of the ANN board completely and give them their own sub once they've paid the fee. If there's no Ann board then there will probably be no paid bumping because it will be useless, but let them spam away in their own slum and squalor.
• A dedicated Marketplace for the Alt Coin board that would be used for currency sales/exchanges and advertising/requesting services etc (the current one has no description and is being used as catch all for anything and everyting and not what it was intended for).
• Requiring manually whitelisting of all new accounts before they can post. All new users will essentially be shadowbanned until they've been verified by a mod. This will eliminate 99% of bots and spammers before they even start. Spam threads can be trashed on sight before they even become spam megathreads.
• Press board locked/archived as it's served its purpose
• Some local boards have Press and Off topic subs. They should be removed as they're hotbeds for account farmers/spammers and are not necessary here.
• Warnings in red displayed to lower ranked users when they go to post alerting them to the most commonly ignored/broken rules.
• A sub board for highly merited users to encourage constructive topics only by users who have proven their worth here over time (or make the Ivory Tower merit requirement much higher [OMG ITS LIKE SOVIET RUSSIA GULAG]).

Maybe.

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• A publicly displayed 'banned' rank under a person's username for permabanned accounts (people are wasting both theirs and staffs time reporting already banned users and bots).
• Implementing a redirect notice/landing page for when users click an external link urging them to double check the url for phishing and possibly warning them of the dangers of buying things from autobuy links and that they should likely use a trusted escrow etc).
• Require at least one merit to become a Junior Member (bots will never rise past Newbie status then and can be nuked once spotted).
• More donator ranks such as Silver and Gold Member that come with additional perks such as avatars and Full/Hero member-sized signatures etc (which will severely curb account farming and sales). You could also even have an expensive premium 'Platinum' rank (bling bling) that comes with further benefits (for example: image banner in signature, animated gif avatar, custom title, ability to change username etc).
• Remove signatures completely from everyone (or everyone only has a basic signature) and to get one you either need a very high amount of activity & merit or:
B) Buy them via new donator ranks (theymos did initially comment: "This may be a good idea. Though I do think that people who don't pay should be able to get a small signature." [though Newbie signatures have been removed completely since this comment was made]).
• Posts from lower ranked accounts don't bump ICO threads to the top (which would then render paid bump spam useless).
• Two report buttons/queues: one for sig spam and low quality posts and one everything else that is more urgent (hundreds of reports on spam posts are currently burying more important reports).
• A new member rank after Legendary as it is becoming far too common now and will only become more so as time passes. I would suggest fixing Legendary at 960 activity and the new rank is double that at 1920. You could also make the merit requirement very high for this rank so it's only for the crθme de la crθme of users [OMG NAZI RANK ITS LIKE THE RICH KEEP GETTING RICHER].
• Additional perks for Legendary accounts or a higher rank if added (for example: custom title, image banner in signature, clickable link in personal text, access to exclusive sub board etc).
• A captcha added to deleting a post.
• Disallowing lower ranks from posting in Off Topic (this is bitcoin forum, why would they head to that board straight away other than to easily farm their accounts (alternatively, posts not counting towards postcount or activity there would also work).
• If a post is removed then so is any merit awarded (I think some users are deleting posts to hide evidence of abuse).
• More advertisement slots. This forum is badly under-monetised in my opinion and we likely lose hundreds of thousands in lost revenue to signatures and lack of ad slots and visibility.

No. Or not yet. Or the idea would need to be significantly modified.



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Your account was created 2 days ago and all 7 posts are in Meta (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3490455;sa=showPosts). All posts are about Trust, moderation, merit, account security. What


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: mk4 on July 14, 2022, 07:13:37 AM
I'll keep it simple: a nightmode option. Yes, we can install plugins to edit the CSS and all that, but I don't like that it somewhat encourages installation of unnecessary browser plugins.


2: Merit Earning: Before anyone can earn merit this day it's seems the person need to be identified with any higher rank that can give merit. Because I have come to discovered people don't longer give merit or either people sell it or greedy with it or does this mean people are no longer interested in reading peoples post?. I urge theymo to look into that

Or that.. maybe.. most people just post a lot of crap in the hopes of earning merit. There's literally no incentive for us to not give out merits because it doesn't help us financially anyway; but giving out merits willy-nilly will just increase spam because of the undeservedly leveled-up accounts joining campaigns.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on July 14, 2022, 09:58:49 AM
Literally just enforce the rules, particularly the signature campaign rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0).


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: OgNasty on July 14, 2022, 06:58:32 PM
Literally just enforce the rules.

Agreed or at least follow through on his word.  He says one thing or gives orders and then completely backs down or refuses to accept responsibility when his threats fall on deaf ears.  Then he uses the libertarian free speech excuse when he doesn't feel like handling problems he created.  Not to mention making assumptions and flinging insults or even encouraging trolling.  I'm sure not everyone here has had the pleasure of working with him though, so his word still carries value here.  I know I went a year without getting paid and then was called tacky for going above and beyond for him.  I just chalk it up to being inexperienced and in above his head.  


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Upgrade00 on July 14, 2022, 07:47:57 PM
Right away, the only features I think I will add is the newbie welcome message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.msg46088206#msg46088206) and build up activity for official forum profiles around different social platforms.

Besides that, everything works okay for me. There might be changes here and there over time.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 14, 2022, 07:59:56 PM
I would implement KYC so all you fu****s leave the forum 😉
Give a break to the Theymos man.

Anyway,
1. Remove cloudflare
2. Remove the annoying captcha
3. Add a new rank for the monsters
4. Add a bitcoin price ticker at the top



Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Welsh on July 14, 2022, 08:01:43 PM
Two factor authentication would be my priority, although I understand implementing that within the current forum software is probably going to require a lot of work. However, other than that I'm happy with the current implementation of the forum. Maybe, adding some categorisation of the Altcoin section. Not only to organise it a little better, but also to encourage a bit more discussion related to certain topics.

I'd like to hear what others think about the sections that require more moderation? I've got spare time, and I'm willing to put some time into reporting again. Gambling Discussion, and Altcoin Discussion are the one's on my list at the moment. Are there any other particularly troubling sections?

A somewhat off topic remarks, but I'd also like to see the community reporting how it was a while back. We've seem to have slumped pretty hard recently.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Igebotz on July 14, 2022, 10:35:42 PM
I would implement KYC so all you fu****s leave the forum 😉
Give a break to the Theymos man.
Lol, I mean this forum has no monetary value so why would anyone submit KYC  >:( isn't that against decentralization?

2. Remove the annoying captcha
It's always fun I won't lie

3. Add a new rank for the monsters
This will affect the low rank members.

I'd like to hear what others think about the sections that require more moderation? I've got spare time, and I'm willing to put some time into reporting again. Gambling Discussion, and Altcoin Discussion are the one's on my list at the moment. Are there any other particularly troubling sections?
Visit B&H that place is a burning hell.

It's very difficult to report while browsing with mobile phone! theymos fix this.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 14, 2022, 10:46:23 PM
I would implement KYC so all you fu****s leave the forum 😉
Give a break to the Theymos man.
Lol, I mean this forum has no monetary value so why would anyone submit KYC  >:( isn't that against decentralization?
This was a joke brother. You did not notice the emoji. The moment the forum will ask KYC (does not make sense even we are talking about it) the principal of the forum will disappear. Although it's fine to ask on the 1st April 🤣

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It's always fun I won't lie
Fun? Have you even been in the situation when you do not have your bypass link and you are trying to login from tor? Try.

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This will affect the low rank members.
It does not LOL
I was talking about those 10k merit earners
Fuck them! 🤣


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: decodx on July 14, 2022, 10:53:48 PM
Two factor authentication would be my priority, although I understand implementing that within the current forum software is probably going to require a lot of work. <...>

Speaking of which, do you know how long we'll be stuck with the current forum software? It's really outdated by today's standards.
What happened to Epochtalk? Why haven't we had any updates for ages?


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Igebotz on July 14, 2022, 10:59:43 PM
I would implement KYC so all you fu****s leave the forum 😉
Give a break to the Theymos man.
Lol, I mean this forum has no monetary value so why would anyone submit KYC  >:( isn't that against decentralization?
This was a joke brother. You did not notice the emoji. The moment the forum will ask KYC (does not make sense even we are talking about it) the principal of the forum will disappear. Although it's fine to ask on the 1st April 🤣
I got the joke sis! I mean, I left Binance when KYC became ridiculous; the way things are going, they'll demand marriage certificates and 10 finger prints for verification. It's insane. Satoshi must have pissed someone on Cannabis Island.

It's always fun I won't lie
Fun? Have you even been in the situation when you do not have your bypass link and you are trying to login from tor? Try.
Lol I will try.

This will affect the low rank members.
It does not LOL
I was talking about those 10k merit earners
Fuck them! 🤣
Lol add a Silver coin to the gold ones.  >:(

Two factor authentication would be my priority, although I understand implementing that within the current forum software is probably going to require a lot of work. <...>
Speaking of which, do you know how long we'll be stuck with the current forum software? It's really outdated by today's standards.
What happened to Epochtalk? Why haven't we had any updates for ages?
Obviously nothing is going on! Don't expect anything mate.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: mk4 on July 15, 2022, 03:22:47 AM
Lol, I mean this forum has no monetary value so why would anyone submit KYC  >:( isn't that against decentralization?

I mean.. (BitcoinGirl.Club joking aside) — to be fair, Bitcointalk was never meant to be decentralized. It's a lot more of the typical single-person owned online business than the Bisq-like decentralized platform.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: LogitechMouse on July 15, 2022, 04:06:14 AM
So what about you ? How would you make Bitcointalk better if you were the Boss ?
-Security would be the top priority so maybe 2FA or some OTP that will be sent in the email would be the first one. I've experienced my account getting hacked already without any notifications whatsoever and luckily I got my account back after a week or more. This will prevent hackers hacking accounts here especially those high ranked ones.
-Maybe a mobile app would be nice as well. Though we can still access the forum through our phones, having a mobile version of it would be better :).
-A local forum for each nationality would be nice as well.
-Maybe a section where users can be updated with what is happening with the crypto world. On that section, we can put some sub sections like for Bitcoin and some altcoins where we might put articles or videos out there like documentaries. It might help newbies as well since they can watch documentaries at read articles there.
-Users with negative trust will not be able to wear signatures. Well, there are some exceptions to it like for example, the user who put negative trust to you permanently left the forum forever. I think this might be hard but I think it's doable.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: abel1337 on July 15, 2022, 04:45:05 AM

But today, I want each and every one of us to be the Boss, its a simple question, Assume yourself as the boss who oversees all the affairs of this forum,

-Are you going to implement new features? what would it be and how would it benefit the community?

Probably add 2FA for additional security layer, Add Bitcoin and major altcoin price tickers

-Are you likely to remove a feature or two? what feature would you remove and why would you remove it/them?

I've been here for a long time now and on the past years, captcha during log in become pain in the a** especially when you are using a mobile device. On desktop mode it's somehow fine with me but this is probably the one I will be removing or changing. Changing it to failed multiple login attempts then having a incremental cooldown would be sufficient.

-Will you redesign the forum?, what color(s) and designs do you think would suit the forum better?

Adding night mode would be enough I guess. If we need to be fancy, Adding such user-preferred color changing schemes would be nice just like what google chrome browser customize profile colors.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: SFR10 on July 15, 2022, 10:18:42 AM
How would you make Bitcointalk better if you were the Boss ?
In addition to other comments, I'd do the following things:

  • Add "list of topics link" to "Additional Information" part of our profiles (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5201464.0)
  • Add more sub-boards, even if there aren't enough threads to fill up the entire page.
  • More local boards.
  • An undo button [I don't think I'm the only one who has deleted certain posts by mistake].
  • An algorithm that helps in picking/delisting merit sources every month [it might come in handy in covering more ground].


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 15, 2022, 07:24:57 PM
Fun? Have you even been in the situation when you do not have your bypass link and you are trying to login from tor? Try.
Lol I will try.
You haven't ever? F*** you! 😘

I got the joke sis!
🤣
I will let you stay confused LOL

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Lol add a Silver coin to the gold ones.  >:(
Big man will find something if he wants.

It's a lot more of the typical single-person owned online business than the Bisq-like decentralized platform.
It runs of Apache and has a phpMySql database. Theymos can remove the data anytime if he wants. The domain could be sold and the files could be removed.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Welsh on July 15, 2022, 08:01:19 PM
Speaking of which, do you know how long we'll be stuck with the current forum software? It's really outdated by today's standards.
What happened to Epochtalk? Why haven't we had any updates for ages?

I have no idea. I don't think there's been any official announcement publicly or privately to staff users. There might be some staff that are more in the know than others, but as far as I can gather most are out of the loop. I've approached it with the attitude that it'll happen when it happens. Like I've said, I'm not all that keen on the change, since I've come rather accustomed to Simple Machine Forums.

Plus, I'm generally not a fan of the more modern type websites, and from what I've seen so far I like the additional functionality considerations, but the look of the Epoch I'm hoping changes when we do change over to it. I guess there's always custom CSS.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Stalker22 on July 15, 2022, 10:06:50 PM
Plus, I'm generally not a fan of the more modern type websites, and from what I've seen so far I like the additional functionality considerations, but the look of the Epoch I'm hoping changes when we do change over to it. I guess there's always custom CSS.

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of the current Epoch look either. Maybe I will just have to get used to it.
My only wish is that we could get at least a responsive design for the forum, as it is really difficult to use the current version on mobile devices.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Welsh on July 15, 2022, 10:16:41 PM
Honestly, I'm not a big fan of the current Epoch look either. Maybe I will just have to get used to it.
My only wish is that we could get at least a responsive design for the forum, as it is really difficult to use the current version on mobile devices.

I'm usually function over fashion though, and I do appreciate the direction of the extra functionality. SMF is really showing its age in terms of functionality. While it's decent, and we've got quite a bit of custom functionality added to it, it's written in PHP which is notoriously annoying to do anything with. PHP is quickly becoming redundant as developers look to alternatives which basically just simplify, and therefore increase productivity. So, I will admit we will likely have to move on at some point, and that will be met with some reluctance, but if we want to further the forum, and continue adding things as time goes on, it'll be necessary.

I imagine that was one of the main motivations for theymos. PHP is annoying, and they likely have plans which are quite difficult to achieve without breaking a ton of things.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: KingsDen on July 15, 2022, 10:37:30 PM
If I am theymos, I would do one major thing, though it could be wrong to some community members but I believe that majority would like the initiative.

If I were the boss,  I would not allow known or proven scammers happily use the forum maybe just having few stashes of negative trust and then permanently ban user who copied some stuffs from the internet and forgot to insert links.

Well, plagiarist would be tagged while proven scammers would be banned.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on July 15, 2022, 11:57:19 PM
If I were the boss,  I would not allow known or proven scammers happily use the forum maybe just having few stashes of negative trust and then permanently ban user who copied some stuffs from the internet and forgot to insert links.

Well that'll go against the whole idea of a free speech community. Everyone should be welcomed here, and the caught scammers already have tagged and flags that display on any thread they create so if a users still falls victim after all the warnings made available to them it's on them and not the forum.  We should learn to make security our first priority in keeping ourselves and funds safe and secure in this industry instead of depending on the third party for protection.

Majority of those that plagiarism has the intention of claiming that information that they're about to pass across as an original and received reward for them. The reward could be merit, monetary value from signature campaign they're enrolled in or a reputation for been a valuable (contributive) member therefore their punishment are well deserved.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: SquirrelJulietGarden on July 16, 2022, 12:05:36 AM
Majority of those that plagiarism has the intention of claiming that information that they're about to pass across as an original and received reward for them. The reward could be merit, monetary value from signature campaign they're enrolled in or a reputation for been a valuable (contributive) member therefore their punishment are well deserved.
Plagiarism rule and ban nowadays are no longer in effect.

People can copy, paste 10 posts, get paid (if no one detects it) and no ban in any kind (post, signature, account).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5405070.msg60503952#msg60503952


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Ahli38 on July 16, 2022, 12:55:09 AM
If I were the boss of this forum. then I will maintain the rules that already apply. because so far I like and comfortable with the existing rules. ( for now. )

next

I will be adding or recruiting some Mods to be placed on the Board of Economy and Speculation. or on some boards that don't have a special mod yet.

and one more addition that I will add a special badge for users who have merit above 10000 merit. or it could be by adding a special Rank level for users above 5000 merit.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: yahoo62278 on July 16, 2022, 02:37:32 AM
While it is in the forums best interest to keep the policy of staying out of scams, I would change that policy. If something is found to be a known scam, all accounts with said scam are perma banned as well as any and all threads related to said scam locked.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: so98nn on July 16, 2022, 04:00:01 AM
As boss I would introduce one of the important feature on bitcointalk forum and that’s (Send) and (Receive) buttons alongside our posts, helpful articles that someone posts, or something unique is done by specific user and we wish to donate them for the hard work.

Besides that, it could work as payment model on the forum. For example, paying out Service Providers on their threads. Like someone is offering Artwork, social media services, or even signature campaigns. One should get button just below their profile pic and be able to send one click money.

To make it far easier I would implement in-built forum wallet to store my bitcoins and be able to send it on one click option.



This would be great help in the lending section also.
Once the transactions started to build up it would show the transferred amount of bitcoin for that particular and which will in turn help clients understand how much worth trust they could have on them.

For example, Dark Star as lender would top the list and can be shown under his profile based on transactions.

All of this in association with building modern forum features. I know many of them will say I can just go through my wallet and send money and shit but think about it as if you are working here and transaction features become way handy.

This might also help escrow service providers.



Being forums leader I would restrict the number of sign ups that happen every 24 hours. This is to avoid junk accounts being created all the time. Though timing wont help much but it would slow down the process at basic level and mods would be able to track down similarities between two accounts on faster route. This is just to keep the forum as clean as it could be.




More for the Forum Members:

As boss I think I must keep forums engagement to high adrenaline! Like I would host more competitions, challenges, and shows which will help forum members to gather and compete and play with it. This is to encourage the members to understand the crypto world since all the completions would be associated with the same.

I would design entire section for the same. Like (Bitcointalk’s Contest). Mods, staff and boss would be the one controlling posts here, I mean creating the topics etc so as to keep everything clean and focused.

So yep, there are endless possibilities to modernise the forum though it is still welcoming as it is today.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: libert19 on July 16, 2022, 04:00:06 AM
I would add alert (mention/quotes) system and leave the rest as it is  :P



Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: BITCOIN4X on July 16, 2022, 10:34:07 AM
The first option I think of is the extra security option. There are a lot of hacked and sold accounts which later became a problem in this forum. Authenticator might be a good choice to be a security feature to be adopted in this forum.

Then from that, no newbies and jr members can access the bounty board to join and promote the altcoin project. Access will be unlocked once they rank up to a member or a higher rank. That's the limit that will probably have a big impact because it will encourage them improving the quality of posting. And one more thing, night mode would probably be a nice feature for user option.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: PowerGlove on July 16, 2022, 11:05:28 AM
1. Remove cloudflare

Do you have better way to protect this forum from DDoS attack?

A few hosting providers have native (either on or very close to their internal network) DDoS protection. It's usually a semi-expensive add-on, but (IMHO) is preferable to joining the disturbing trend of putting more and more of the Internet behind Cloudflare.

For a forum that values decentralization, I found the choice a little incongruent.

But, I suppose it's easy to be principled when you're not the one paying the bill.

Edit: After reading the relevant thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2485318.0) (thanks @ETFbitcoin) I see that this decision was not taken lightly and that @theymos dislikes Cloudflare at least as much as the rest of us...


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: ABCbits on July 16, 2022, 12:15:40 PM
1. Remove cloudflare

Do you have better way to protect this forum from DDoS attack?
A few hosting providers have native (either on or very close to their internal network) DDoS protection. It's usually a semi-expensive add-on, but (IMHO) is preferable to joining the disturbing trend of putting more and more of the Internet behind Cloudflare.

For a forum that values decentralization, I found the choice a little incongruent.

But, I suppose it's easy to be principled when you're not the one paying the bill.

Relevant thread, Moving to Cloudflare (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2485318.0). IMO it's unlikely Bitcointalk remove CloudFlare anytime soon unless someone with experience mitigating large scale DDoS give advice to theymos.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on July 19, 2022, 03:21:58 PM
First for me will be to sanitize the Altcoin Board and put a severe check on how bounties are run there by making sure mods have a meaningful presence there.

Secondly, moderate scam activities. I don't get it when users say scam isn't moderated here while every other thing seems to be.

Thirdly, create a BTT coin that will run alongside Bitcoin as a pair. Make it a stablecoin.

Create a mobile BTT app.
Seriously, I wonder why that still hasn't happened. It's weird for a savvy site like ours not to have it 🙄


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: SFR10 on July 19, 2022, 05:28:02 PM
To make it far easier I would implement in-built forum wallet to store my bitcoins and be able to send it on one click option.
Considering that there's always a possibility that our accounts could get hacked, this is a terrible idea for us and a wonderful idea for hackers!
- Why risk such things for fewer clicks?

This might also help escrow service providers.
It won't [it puts everything on the line]!

Create a mobile BTT app.
Seriously, I wonder why that still hasn't happened. It's weird for a savvy site like ours not to have it 🙄
It probably has something to do with Epochtalk being responsive in nature.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Pmalek on July 21, 2022, 01:37:24 PM
These are the four things I would change:

1. I am sick and tired of scammers being pardoned. Scammers wouldn't be welcome in my forum. The same people deciding who to ban for X and Y reason can also ban scammers.
2. I would spend some of that forum money to pay for a decent mobile app for those browsing the forum with a phone.
3. I would introduce a feature that allows switching the OP of a thread. In case OP is inactive, someone else can take over. If OP is sick and tired of moderating and updating their thread, they can give someone else mod rights.
4. Bring your girlfriends/boyfriend to the forum day.
 
- Require altcoin projects to run their bounties with Bitcoin, not with their tokens
That way they can scam the bounty hunters and not pay them any Bitcoin because the way it is now, they don't pay them any shitcoins. ;D Joking aside, I understand what you are saying and a long time ago I proposed security deposits for bounty campaigns. It didn't catch on, but I still think it's not a bad idea despite everything. You want to run a bounty? No problem deposit a security deposit in BTC or ETH with an escrow, do your thing, pay what you owe, and your security deposit will be returned. 


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Welsh on July 21, 2022, 02:12:08 PM
Does Boss equal to Lead Admin like theymos, Cyrus ?
Theoretical in it. I don't think people are thinking about specifics since it's just basically asking what do you think the priorities are.

- Require all user to learn about Bitcoin and force them to sign a Bitcoin message, for ownership proof, stake it in an official topic of the forum
The thing is, as soon as you put this into the rules it almost legitimises bounties offering in Bitcoin, which isn't the impression we want to give. If we went down this route, we'll likely have to go the route of requiring escrow, and then there's the issue of which escrows, since putting it in the rules will validate certain escrows, which again is something we want to avoid.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: KingsDen on July 21, 2022, 03:57:33 PM
While it is in the forums best interest to keep the policy of staying out of scams, I would change that policy. If something is found to be a known scam, all accounts with said scam are perma banned as well as any and all threads related to said scam locked.
Happy to know that yahoo62278 share in my view. I would not romance scam for any reason. In my post I proposed permanent ban for scammers and red tag for plagiarists.
@CryptopreneurBrainboss, you said that plagiarists do so to complete campaign quota, earn glory they don't deserve or to gain merits. If 1 or 2 DT members tag the plagiarist account, his purpose of committing plagiarism would be defeated thereby rendering the account useless. It's worth it.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Hispo on July 21, 2022, 04:30:14 PM
People here have already shared some interesting proposals I had in mind, specially concerning two factor security and new ways to handle scams/plagiarists, so I would share my proposal which I believe noone has mentioned till' this point on this thread:

If I had some power on this forum I would set a maximum time threshold for ban appeals to get an answer, so people would not need to necro their appeal threads. I would be something like, giving the banned user a reply to their appeal case within 4-8 weeks, maybe even assemble a team to handle appeal cases which members would rotate/change to keep it as unbiased as possible.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: DdmrDdmr on July 21, 2022, 05:46:06 PM
I figure that it would be a question of going through the multiple suggestions made over the years, seeing what seems reasonable and feasible, classifying them in accordance to priority, and allocating the resources to do so. Having said that, which is simple bird's eye theory, I would likely initially focus on two key elements:

1.   Determining what to do with Epochtalk, and being forthcoming with a feasible high-level roadmap to deployment. If it were to be scrapped, well so be it, but one should know what software any suggestion is going to be implemented in before anything else, and avoid the development of Epochtalk from dilly dallying any functional evolution.

2.   Give a high priority to what can be done with this:  search engine optimization for local boards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170503.0). I believe a lot of growth is still feasible through Local Boards, and I’d prefer to be wrong after trying than not trying at all.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Cookdata on July 22, 2022, 04:49:58 PM
I've read a lot of proposals, and a lot of them have already been tossed in the trash. Very soon, this one will join them. I originally suggested that Bitcointalk be made open source and free to contribute to, similar to how Bitcoin features and protocol are regularly upgraded. However, I later discovered that new forum software has been under development, and I have never heard any significant updates regarding the progress.

Scams are not moderated, and making trades on the forum are high-risk activity. My best recommendation is to address this by ensuring a perfect lightning network on the forum. Users only need to create/generate their seeds outside the forum(offline manner) and use a single private key to open a channel in the forum, two people can use the channel to send bitcoin within themself without running away since two of the users are required to closed the channel, in no other circumstance would anyone else have access to the keys except when the forum becomes compromised and that is what I feared the most.
I've been contemplating this, and that's the best shot I have right now to address the problem of scams. While it would lower the incidence of forum fraud, my biggest concern is the possibility of keys being stolen. I sincerely hope there is another solutions available.


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on July 22, 2022, 04:58:42 PM
So what about you ? How would you make Bitcointalk better if you were the Boss ?

Thou, everybody have said everything i had in mind which i would have done if i was the boss of the forum, ranging from taking plagiarism seriously with automatic ban, banning accounts with more than 10 negative trust from D1 and D2, and implementing 2factor authentication and face or fingerprint recognition for logging in, and most importantly implementing the Bitcoin price feature on the top left side corner of the forum "close to the avatar", where users could easily sees the current price of Bitcoin, since this forum is all about Bitcoin, so implementing the Bitcoin live price feature will be the best idea so far


Title: Re: How Would You Make Bitcointalk Better If You Were The Boss ?
Post by: Falconer on July 22, 2022, 07:36:36 PM
if i was the boss of the forum, ranging from taking plagiarism seriously with automatic ban,
You may still have to handle with plagiarism reports on a case-by-case basis.
Plagiarism is prohibited, but what if current forum contributors forget that they have violated this rule in the past without realizing it, is the permanent ban or will you consider other things based on your interpretation?

and implementing 2factor authentication and face or fingerprint recognition for logging in, and most importantly implementing the Bitcoin price feature on the top left side corner of the forum "close to the avatar", where users could easily sees the current price of Bitcoin, since this forum is all about Bitcoin, so implementing the Bitcoin live price feature will be the best idea so far
2FA is good for security, but I think face detection is bad for security because many users really care about their privacy. Remember there are users using this forum via TOR from day one, they are privacy-concerned people, but if you ask them to apply face detection on login then that means you will kick them out from forum.

For the latter I agree, because this is a bitcoin forum so displaying bitcoin prices in real time is good as a new feature.