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Title: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: moonlabs on July 21, 2022, 11:53:16 AM
Hi guys!

I am proud to announce that our small team is almost finished with the development of a silent, tiny, powerful, energy efficient, Mac mini-sized Bitcoin miner - Moon Miner! Ideal for striking Crypto Gold in Solo Mining or just for experiments with Bitcoin.

We are planning to start manufacturing two variants, with the same design / power consumption but different hashrate (and power efficiency).

Moon Miner v1:

  • Power consumption: up to 300W on the wall
  • Hashrate: up to 4 TH/s
  • Size: Mac mini-sized device
  • Price: TBD

Moon Miner v2:

  • Power consumption: up to 300W on the wall
  • Hashrate: up to 8 TH/s
  • Size: Mac mini-sized device
  • Price: TBD

We are finalizing the designs, and hope to provide photos/logs from real devices within ~1 month.

Please feel free to ask any questions you might have in the thread below or via email hello@moonlabs.company.

Welcome to our website https://moonlabs.company (https://moonlabs.company) where you can join our mailing list for the product launch announcement.


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on July 21, 2022, 12:22:13 PM
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. The few specs you released seem reasonable.


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: SFR10 on July 21, 2022, 12:58:07 PM
our small team
Does it mean you're not a registered company?

silent
I'm not sure if you already have a prototype, but I'm interested in knowing the noise/dB levels on them.

Mac mini-sized Bitcoin miner
~Snipped~
We are finalizing the designs,
Are you implying that you might also alter its size?
- I think it's going to be a bit tricky to manage the temps on such a small device.


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: moonlabs on July 21, 2022, 03:55:19 PM
Does it mean you're not a registered company?
Company registration is in progress right now, I'm expecting to have the company settled right before sales start.

I'm not sure if you already have a prototype, but I'm interested in knowing the noise/dB levels on them.
I'll provide the measurements once the near-production design is up and running.

Are you implying that you might also alter its size?
- I think it's going to be a bit tricky to manage the temps on such a small device.
We have an engineering sample with a 15 x 20 cm PCB size and will try to not be significantly bigger than Mac mini casing :)


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: Skot on July 21, 2022, 09:54:19 PM
this sounds cool! I like the emphasis on home solo mining.

What ASIC chip are you using? The website says the v2 uses 5nm process, which is pretty fancy! The efficiency (0.0375 J/GH) seems about right when you count cooling, controller and power supply.


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: stompix on July 21, 2022, 10:32:28 PM
Are you implying that you might also alter its size?
- I think it's going to be a bit tricky to manage the temps on such a small device.

It all depends on how the cooling will be done, it's not that small if we talk about volume, the specs tell 2520 cm3 while the Apollo is ~1500 cm3, but it does have 100W extra so it matches somewhat. Note that it says Mac Mini size but it's 200mm x 90mm x 140mm so, I guess it will be 14 cm in height, unlike the mini who is flatter and wider, probably because of the fan. Without being an expert I would say it's doable, the noise...that is something else.



Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: yxt on July 22, 2022, 10:11:44 AM
interesting, I'm looking forward to more info.


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: sidehack on July 22, 2022, 02:44:31 PM
Nuts, beat me to the punch. I've been working on something similar.


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: moonlabs on July 30, 2022, 11:51:16 AM
interesting, I'm looking forward to more info.
Thanks! I'll post the photos and test report here soon.


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: yxt on July 30, 2022, 11:55:42 AM
looking forward to it


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: moonlabs on July 30, 2022, 11:58:22 AM
Nuts, beat me to the punch. I've been working on something similar.
Oh, that's cool! It would be great to get some details about your project!


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: moonlabs on July 30, 2022, 12:06:45 PM
this sounds cool! I like the emphasis on home solo mining.

What ASIC chip are you using? The website says the v2 uses 5nm process, which is pretty fancy! The efficiency (0.0375 J/GH) seems about right when you count cooling, controller and power supply.
For v1 I managed to purchase the 14nm chips from Bitfury, but for v2 I'll be able to provide details about the chip on the launch date (in ~1 month).

The efficiency isn't the best, but it is not so important for a tiny device like this.


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: OgNasty on July 30, 2022, 07:16:21 PM
this sounds cool! I like the emphasis on home solo mining.

What ASIC chip are you using? The website says the v2 uses 5nm process, which is pretty fancy! The efficiency (0.0375 J/GH) seems about right when you count cooling, controller and power supply.
For v1 I managed to purchase the 14nm chips from Bitfury, but for v2 I'll be able to provide details about the chip on the launch date (in ~1 month).

The efficiency isn't the best, but it is not so important for a tiny device like this.

I was also curious about the chip used given that 5nm process ain't cheap.  Always nice to see more competition out there in the mining space.  If you need somebody to provide you with a review, let me know.  :)  Love me some home miners.  What voltage do you see these things running at?  Assuming 110v to easily integrate with typical home electricity circuits.  Right now it seems the only competition for a device like this is the Apollo miner, and this one appears to be more efficient.  Any details about how loud this will be or a ballpark on pricing for each unit?  Will it have a standalone power supply or an included one?


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: philipma1957 on August 05, 2022, 09:28:14 PM
i would want the v2 model.8th 300 watts sounds like a nice piece of gear


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on August 05, 2022, 10:17:17 PM
...
What ASIC chip are you using? The website says the v2 uses 5nm process, which is pretty fancy! The efficiency (0.0375 J/GH) seems about right when you count cooling, controller and power supply.
For v1 I managed to purchase the 14nm chips from Bitfury, but for v2 I'll be able to provide details about the chip on the launch date (in ~1 month). ...

I was also curious about the chip used given that 5nm process ain't cheap.  <snip>
Could well be using some of the Bitmain or MicroBT 5nm chips same as Sidehack uses 7nm in his CompacF. The Apollo uses Bitfury chips.

I highly doubt they could have come up with the >8million $ it costs for the litho masks alone much less design costs + Foundry production costs to roll their own.


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: CochnocherCrypto on August 30, 2022, 02:55:01 PM
Moon Labs team, just wondering if there’s any sort of update with regards to this and any sort of approximate time it might be available for purchase/pre-order.


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: cyc22 on September 08, 2022, 08:28:26 AM
  I guess v2 5nm chip is from Intel BlockScale ASIC (https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/blockchain/custom-asic-product-brief.html (https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/blockchain/custom-asic-product-brief.html)).
 
  BlockScale ASIC is guessed by adopting TSMC 5nm process. Hope to see the product soon.


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: JanEmil on September 09, 2022, 09:31:37 PM
Interesting.

Any wallet feature?


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: KingTin on September 10, 2022, 02:32:34 AM
very interesting. looking forward to see more info, would you be shipping world wide?


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: CochnocherCrypto on January 21, 2023, 08:46:15 PM
Any news from MoonLabs? or did this sort of fall off.


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: altair_tech on January 22, 2023, 01:03:23 AM
Hi guys!

I am proud to announce that our small team is almost finished with the development of a silent, tiny, powerful, energy efficient, Mac mini-sized Bitcoin miner - Moon Miner! Ideal for striking Crypto Gold in Solo Mining or just for experiments with Bitcoin.


Super Happy to see new hardware for home mining. This sector is largely ignored by the big mining companies.

Few questions for you
1. What's the background of the founders and team here? Can you guys do PCB assembly as well as your own chip design if you had the funding to fab it?
2. Are you self-funded? Anything you can share about funding and ownership helps.
3. Since you mentioned 'crypto', are you planning hardware for non-SHA256d algorithms too?
4. Any way to get early samples for testing or review?
5. Is your company and team based in US?
6. Will your design need a separate computer to run, or will it have an inbuilt controller in it?


Title: Re: At-Home miner from Moon Labs - for Solo Miners and Bitcoin enthusiasts
Post by: altair_tech on January 22, 2023, 01:17:52 AM
just realized this was supposed to come out 6 months ago. Guess this was vaporware.
Sigh!