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Today I noticed when loading a page that it was not the common Cloudflare page we had got accustomed to but instead a new layout of possibly another DDoS attack protection tool that I personally don't know about as you can see in the screenshot

https://i.imgur.com/fmZj88I.png

Did the forum decide to use another DDoS attack protection tool?
If yes, what's the name of the new alternative?

As far as I can tell, it's just that Cloudflare changed the design of their anti-DDOS challenge page.

I noticed that thing on different websites it seems Cloudflare change its design because I think the old one is a bit slow compared to this new design.

There is a topic about this on their Cloudflare forum here "The New Managed Challenge Page (https://community.cloudflare.com/t/the-new-managed-challenge-page-isnt-the-greatest/405127)"

Check the page at below right after Ray ID. You will see it says by Cloudfare.

Then I'm having a poor internet connection for the last few days. I came to know about the page change yesterday it was taking a lot of time. I thought the new one is a bit slow lol.

Confirmed: open any "All" thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14356.0;all) in a private window, and scroll down:
https://loyce.club/other/stillCloudflare.png

To check it yourself using your browser: Right on this page, open "inspect" ("F12" or "Right-click->Inspect") and go to 'Network' tab
Next, do some activity like clicking Bitcointalk's homepage and the Network's 'name' tab should be populated,
click on "index.php?...." and click the "Headers" tab at the right side, the server should under "Response Headers".

Check if it's still Cloudflare.

I noticed exact same page on few different websites that also use cloudflare service, so I can confirm that bitcointalk forum is still using cloudflare and that can be confirmed with their certificate.
It would be great if there was better alternative for cloudflare but I don't think something like this exist or at least it's not as effective as cloudflare for DDOS attacks.
If I was in charge of bitcointalk I would also remove google search and replace it with some better alternative that respect privacy.

Cloudflare does its job pretty well. Not to mention their CDN coverage is pretty wide.

If you're a website owner, it offers analytics and security, decent enough on their Free plan.

I noticed it accidentally few days ago, but forgot to post about it. I was almost sure that they moved from Cloudflare and I even thought that Bitcointalk developped their own anti DDOS protection.
I remember that when theymos enabled Cloudflare, he was very sceptical about for privacy issues and that it may be potentially owned US intelligence agencies, but he had no other choice. But after all, Cloudflare is doing their job well.

Cloudflare strikes again.

I was writing a post, and when it was time to click on the post, the Bitcointalk forum went down for me. It turns out to be a Cloudflare outage, affecting the entire global network. I assume I am not alone in facing the issues. My connection was dropped multiple times over the last few minutes, and I expect it to be dropped again for the next several minutes or hours. However, Cloudflare is already notifying its users through its website. If you have faced the same issue, it's not your ISP; it's Cloudflare.

Some gamba sites using CF is also down, like Betfury.

Forums operate globally, forums are included in websites with a global server network controlled by Cloudflare, situations like this often occur in global traffic networks.

So, when an unsafe situation is detected or a dangerous attack such as DDoS by Cloudflare, Cloudflare automatically secures the website or internet application under its control, Not only website forums or other internet applications are the same, the aim is to optimize, secure and speed up the website again without harmful attacks.
In essence, Cloudflare does a good job of protecting websites or internet applications so, there is no need to worry about that, if the situation is safe and optimal everything will return to normal.

Luckily for me I was away and wasn't using the internet at the time this was happening. I just came online to see many people talking about Cloudflare being down. It can be frustrating when something like this happens especially when you have finished drafting a post and you want to post it but you can't. Glad that everything is up and running smoothly again.

Likewise myself, I was away but I recieved about two different phone calls asking me why the forum was down. Even without checking to know, I told them it was cloudflare and that it will return to normalcy in a short time. I was also informed that even X was affected.
So, with my age in this forum, I already know the circumstances that will make the forum inaccessible.

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A few other threads about this attack have been bumped and they dated years back, which means this has been a re-occurring event. Unfortunately, we don't have an alternative.

I saw it earlier when it happened but I refused to panic like I knew everything is going to normalize just a matter of time, of course is nice having the forum working back again in it's usually way without interruptions, this was not the first time is happening but i observed that the one that occurred today took much more longer time to be restored compared to the previous happenings. A big pity to newbies that maybe happens to be experiencing this for the first time it will definitely raise panicking.

Plenty of websites that use Cloudflare were temporarily down, including x.com and ChatGPT. I just do hope people were not affected when opening and closing positions when trading, in case some exchanges use the service as well.

I think this is a second large scale case after AWS outage last month

However, the big issue is how powerful these services have turned into in away that once they sneeze, a big percentage of the internet catches a cold. Where in for dangerous times ahead.

Cloudflare failure again. There are others (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5564481.msg66012783#msg66012783) which can be used against DDOS.

Akamai
Amazon CloudFront
Indusface
Imperva
Azure CDN
StackPath
Google Cloud CDN
Sucuri
CDN77
Tata Communications CDN
Netlify
Medianova

I was replying someone and when I was done writing I now wanted to post and that was how I was not able to in fact I tried logging in but I was unable to have access to the forum, I refreshed my chrome browser over and over again but I couldn't have access to the forum and at some point I gain access and I quickly write again and posted, one thing I notice was that it was going and coming, you can login now and before you know it you can't anymore you won't have access to the forum again it was really frustrating yesterday, it was later I know it was not only on this forum that had that issue, it was an issue associated with sites that used Cloudflare so it was not a forum problem it was Cloudflare issues, I even saw a statement by Cloudflare apologizing for the inconvenience I really don't know how true that statement was but I'm happy forum is back to normal.

FYI, for those curious about what happened... Cloudflare already posted a post mortem:

Post mortem is here: https://blog.cloudflare.com/18-november-2025-outage/

TLDR: The issue was caused by a change to one of their database systems' permissions, which caused their software to fail.

They all have the same problem. You choose one, and it goes offline for any reason, and your website is toast.

I wish there was a way to combine CDNs. But I'm not sure whether that is even possible, unless you can have multiple nameservers pointing to different CDNs at the same times.

There are other alternatives but those businesses are so invested in AWS its kinda hard to make a switch without some major disruption. And back then (even now) reliability is crucial with lesser choices.

Exactly. I was active here during the Cloudflare outage, and then I couldn't post replies. I had almost nothing to do since I just came from a full, busy day and got some time to be on the forum. So I had to watch YouTube videos and continue to refresh the forum to see if I could access it. The connection dropped several times in an hour or so. I was thinking about what I would do if most of Google's services and Meta's services went offline at the same time. What would be left for us to spend our time on? A few major outages, and we will go back to the 19th century.

There's usually a baby boom 9 months after a blackout, so I can take a guess what people will be doing :P

This Cloudflare outage became such a big thing for some internet users that even platform like X were flooded with memes regarding this.

Here is link to one such article

https://www.livemint.com/news/us-news/cloudflare-went-down-and-everyone-loses-their-minds-x-erupts-in-memes-after-global-crash-11763478542855.html

Yep. And if anything those probably face more downtime than Cloudflare. The good thing when using Cloudflare and AWS is that, if your website is down because of them, nearly all the internet is also down, so you won't be seen as incompetent and your customers will have other problems since even they will also be down. ;D

These things is worrying. Last time it was AWS, now Cloudflare. It's just 2 companies. It's not good when so much of internet is under control of very few hands. Their outages causes so much mess. It's first world problems when you can't check Twitter or Bitcointalk. But globally it can big chaos, especially if outage continues longer than few hours.

"Full old school period activated"...It would be nice, you know? But, please, TikTok must be included to make it worthwhile. ;)

I hear the gist that children are always very happy when there's a power outage in advanced countries, where they hardly experience such. It's that kind of awkward feeling we want here.

Unfortunately, Gen Z will not take it lightly.

You completely ignored the single people and young people who are still under 18. We had an internet blackout in my country last year because of the dictatorial government; we were watching TV channels and playing offline games all day. Fortunately, the dictator had to flee to India due to the protests, and then the internet was restored. I recall that there was a kind of shutdown or lockdown situation, but without internet access. Unfortunately, we do not have the data if there were baby boom after 9 months :P

Oh, that's okay. Because it was a bit challenging, trying to access the forum on the said date of this change. But thank goodness it's okay now. Hope to have a better experience with the new touch.

Gen Z won't take it lightly.
The protest in Bangladesh actually spiked because the government shut down the internet nationwide, and the Gen Z population had nothing to do, so they joined the protest and made it bigger. Most of the time, these young guys spend time on social media and play games. But imagine the government shuts down the internet and the schools are closed as well, what would you do? I think most young guys will choose to protest against the government.

The same thing actually repeated in Nepal. The government decided to ban social media, and Gen Z started to protest. The government had to flee as well. So yes, Gen Z won't take it lightly.

Unfortunately Down syndrome happens
I consider Cloudflare a good service, even mentioned by some pentesters and ethical hackers


Unfortunately, problems happen, but at the moment there are no valid alternatives
The actors that I know are basically two
- akamai
- cloudflare

there are currently no other valid alternatives

There are other alternatives, brother babo.

2025’s Top 7 Cloudflare Alternatives: An Expert Comparison (https://dedirock.com/blog/2025s-top-7-cloudflare-alternatives-an-expert-comparison/)

But I don't recommend moving out of Cloudflare; it is the best and is suited for Bitcointalk. All the top sites are on Cloudflare.

Cloudflare is unbeatable when it comes to features and awards.

What's New at Cloudflare (https://www.cloudflare.com/whats-new/)

just because there are some alternatives, there always are, doesn't mean they're good alternatives

There are only two alternatives that work at the moment.
- akamai
- cloudflare

There are no other valid alternatives, work-wise, unfortunately that's how it is