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Title: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Flyingjack123 on September 21, 2022, 08:11:49 AM
I was scouting through internet and i came across this very interesting post on if Satoshi deserve a Nobel prize.
Infact many forums had discussed it
Infact a professor  Bhagwan Chowdhry at the University of California in the United States presented the proposal of Nobel prize for Satoshi stating that technology presented by Satoshi is the most significant development of the 21st Century and will have immense implications in the way finance will be conducted in the future

Personally i believe that Satoshi do deserve nobel prize for his work.
Especially after recent Ukraine crisis when we saw how donations could pour in in bitcoin. We saw how bitcoin can help people in events of war when banks were either closed or had frozen accounts.. People were homeless and short of money. We saw how bitcoin helped war affected people to overcome financial barriers and this showed the true potential of bitcoin and how it can support financial support and financial inclusion of poor and needy.

I believe for such a great contribution to science and humanity Satoshi do deserve a price, even when he is anonymous.

I request members to express their opinion as well.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Kemarit on September 21, 2022, 08:15:24 AM
I don't know, we even don't know who Satoshi in the first place so how can we award him the Nobel prize? Is he just a single individual or group of person who created Bitcoin?

I guess it will be better if we leave it that way, we don't need to attract more attention. It has accomplished what it needs to be done in the last 10 years and it continue to grow. For sure Satoshi might not in favor of this one as he really doesn't want to be in the limelight.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: NeuroticFish on September 21, 2022, 08:22:04 AM
Personally i believe that Satoshi do deserve nobel prize for his work.

Indeed, Satoshi deserves at least one Nobel prize for his work.

But there's a "logistics" problem. Satoshi's identity is not known, even more, the world is full of Satoshi impersonators/wannabes. And I would not be surprised one of those will try to go to get the prize. And such development has the potential to end up badly for both the bitcoin community and the organizers too.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: romero121 on September 21, 2022, 08:39:31 AM
Satoshi deserve Nobel Prize, even after a decade no one is able to find the identity. Even if the organisers and jury take this into consideration the prize won't be received by the respective person. Each and every member of the forum will have the same thought and wish he gets Nobel Prize.

For now we can't do anything more to get him Nobel Prize. For now we can add a Nobel Prize badge to his Bitcointalk account through which he made his discussions. Maybe in future if the identity gets revealed, community can work for the real Nobel Prize.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Out of PATIENCE on September 21, 2022, 08:40:21 AM
If anything, Bitcoin should get a nobel prize, not Satoshi. Certainly Satoshi deserves credit, but he doesn't want it, doesn't need it, and had plenty of help along the way. Makes more sense to give the prize to Bitcoin. It can be done, irregardless of Nobel prize requirements - which I'd add would be perfectly in line with Bitcoin's nature of breaking through traditional requirements of finance. ;)


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: DeathAngel on September 21, 2022, 09:17:11 AM
He does deserve one but these awards usually are only granted posthumously. Also, I don’t actually know how it would be given to Satoshi as he’s anonymous & it most likely isn’t even his real name. It’s a great idea & I would love him to get the recognition he deserves but I don’t think it’s possible. He probably also doesn’t even want it as part of the reason why bitcoin is so good is because there is no CEO, no owner.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: 348Judah on September 21, 2022, 09:27:35 AM
I believe for such a great contribution to science and humanity Satoshi do deserve a price, even when he is anonymous

The only thing he deserves from us that is mkre than a noble price is the adoption of the use of bitcoin and helping others through the same process to have their freedom back in handling their finances, just as you've said, he's anonymous and how can you present a gift to an anonymous person without seeing him, but rather he expect us to build on the foundation he had laid and maintain it to generations, bitcoin has serve us a general and unique purpose inbthe world entirely and everyone has felt it impacts in one way or the other and we must ensure we defend it to remain decentralized away from various people claiming to be fake Satoshi just as the news is trending.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: mindrust on September 21, 2022, 09:29:43 AM
Nobody knows his real identity so I don't think it is possible. They won't give the prize to someone they don't know anything about. At least that what makes sense. We don't even know if satoshi is a person or a group of people. Satoshi don't even need that prize anyway. Receiving or not receiving nobel prize don't make any difference for us or him. So many crypto people won't even care.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Lucius on September 21, 2022, 10:20:54 AM
Why does anyone think that the Nobel Prize is relevant at all after it was awarded to Barack Obama, who at that time was the president of the US for only about eight months and did not in any way contribute to peace in the world? Satoshi was (or still is) an honest man who does not deserve to have his name anywhere near the Nobel prize.

The biggest reward for him is that Bitcoin managed to survive despite all attempts to destroy it, and that is much more valuable than any award from the old corrupt farts from the Nobel committee.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: yazher on September 21, 2022, 02:41:34 PM
He maybe gets a Nobel prize but he might put his life in danger because of the number of people coming to get him or they might force him to do some bad things about Bitcoins. The guy already chooses to leave all of the fame and compliments from the people all around the world, maybe for him, it's enough to see that people appreciate his works and the most important thing is, the goal of why he created bitcoin is now recognized and slowly become reality.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: mk4 on September 21, 2022, 03:04:33 PM
He maybe gets a Nobel prize but he might put his life in danger because of the number of people coming to get him or they might force him to do some bad things about Bitcoins. The guy already chooses to leave all of the fame and compliments from the people all around the world, maybe for him, it's enough to see that people appreciate his works and the most important thing is, the goal of why he created bitcoin is now recognized and slowly become reality.

Lol as if Satoshi would actually break anonymity solely due to whatever prize. Like, all that tight opsec out of the window for a gold medal and $1m. Assuming Satoshi is alive, he definitely has enough funds to live comfortably for multiple lifetimes.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: un_rank on September 21, 2022, 05:16:58 PM
He does deserve one but these awards usually are only granted posthumously.
That is incorrect. Nobel peace prizes are to the fact, only awarded to those who are alive[1]. AFAIK, only once has it been awarded posthumously.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/science/2011/oct/03/nobel-prize-awarded-dead-scientist

- Jay -


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: darkangel11 on September 21, 2022, 06:06:13 PM
If anything, Bitcoin should get a nobel prize, not Satoshi. Certainly Satoshi deserves credit, but he doesn't want it, doesn't need it, and had plenty of help along the way. Makes more sense to give the prize to Bitcoin. It can be done, irregardless of Nobel prize requirements - which I'd add would be perfectly in line with Bitcoin's nature of breaking through traditional requirements of finance. ;)

AFAIK it's the inventors that get awarded not inventions.

There's really no way to contact Satoshi and let him know about it, also no way to send him the reward if he ever wins.

Chowdhry has thought about the logistics, saying he’d be happy to accept the prize on behalf of the mysterious Nakamoto
https://qz.com/545949/satoshi-nakamoto-anonymous-creator-of-bitcoin-is-nominated-for-a-nobel-prize-in-economics/

This guy's making himself a proxy for someone he doesn't know and never contacted.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: m2017 on September 21, 2022, 06:49:29 PM
~snip
Surely many who come into contact with the sphere of cryptocurrencies (not only developers and other specialties, but also ordinary investors) share your opinion that Satoshi Nakamoto undoubtedly deserves the Nobel Prize. But I can’t imagine how the award process would take place (as some in this thread have already noticed this). Maybe in absentia? Of course, no one will come for the award, but if this award did occur, it would undoubtedly have a positive effect. Presenting an award of this magnitude would mean almost official recognition of bitcoin and would certainly attract the attention of people who have not even heard anything about bitcoin.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Z-tight on September 21, 2022, 07:11:14 PM
Not that the Nobel prize would mean much for the bitcoin community, but even if they could give it to an anonymous personality, can Satoshi receive or earn it? Because as far as i know, the Nobel prize award is a yearly or annual award, so the winners are people that met their criteria for the award the previous year, Satoshi's invention was created about 13 years ago, and didn't receive too many positive recognition in the beginning phase, until after a few years later, so if Satoshi was ever eligible for the Nobel prize award wouldn't it have been in 2010, that is if bitcoin had met their criteria the preceding year of creation.

I don't feel there is a suitable field to categorize Satoshi's creation under the different fields in which the award is giving, if there was an award in the field of 'finance' or 'technology', then i probably think that will suit bitcoin.
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The Nobel prizes are a series of annual awards given in the fields of physics, chemistry, medicine, literature, and peace.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: rby on September 21, 2022, 07:36:07 PM

I don't feel there is a suitable field to categorize Satoshi's creation under the different fields in which the award is giving, if there was an award in the field of 'finance' or 'technology', then i probably think that will suit bitcoin.
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The Nobel prizes are a series of annual awards given in the fields of physics, chemistry, medicine, literature, and peace.

Satoshi deserves every award giving him or proposed for him, even if there is no category to put the award, a category should be created for him. He deserves whatever award. Another question should be who will recieve the award on behalf of Satoshi, since he is anonymous?
That is where I'm seeing a little challenge.
With good thinking, it will also not be a problem because I have seen where Satoshi statue was raised, even without knowing who Satoshi is.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: crypto_curious on September 21, 2022, 07:54:24 PM
Personally i believe that Satoshi do deserve nobel prize for his work.

Indeed, Satoshi deserves at least one Nobel prize for his work.

But there's a "logistics" problem. Satoshi's identity is not known, even more, the world is full of Satoshi impersonators/wannabes. And I would not be surprised one of those will try to go to get the prize. And such development has the potential to end up badly for both the bitcoin community and the organizers too.

Impostor Craig Wright would be first in line to get it.  ;D


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Yogee on September 21, 2022, 11:01:46 PM
I don't think highly of Nobel prize anymore but why not give it to the pioneers or founders of cryptography first before thinking about Satoshi? That doesn't mean he doesn't deserve such recognition - no doubt the creation of Bitcoin is great - but there are aldo people like David Chaum who received multiple awards throughout his career but never Nobel right?

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Impostor Craig Wright would be first in line to get it.  ;D
No doubt about that hehehe. He wouldn't let anyone else be identified as Satoshi.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: GreatArkansas on September 22, 2022, 12:17:17 AM
(....)
I believe for such a great contribution to science and humanity Satoshi do deserve a price, even when he is anonymous.

I request members to express their opinion as well.
Satoshi Nakamoto indeed deserves it but we are still not sure if Satoshi Nakamoto is only one person or a group of people, we will not know this at the moment. And another thing is can we award a noble prize to a person that is anonymous or unidentified?
Overall, whoever and whenever Satoshi Nakamoto now is, he/they are really proud on Bitcoin now.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: DapanasFruit on September 22, 2022, 03:02:39 AM


Considering the impact that the blockchain technology and Bitcoin both created for many people today and into the future, yes I think Satoshi Nakamoto deserves a Nobel prize but I am not sure if the body governing Nobel can be able to award a recognition to someone who is generally an anonymous. I think Nobel can award to someone who is already dead but am not so sure with a person whose details are not so clearly verified. Well, am hoping that at the right time Satoshi Nakamoto can get this most prestigious award but then again the man is not really after such a recognition...the current popularity of the blockchain and Bitcoin is enough for the man wherever he is.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Fara Chan on September 22, 2022, 03:05:52 AM
Even if we intend to give one, two and three Nobel Prizes to Satoshi, but unfortunately no one knows his identity, and I also believe that Satoshi never expected that.
The great work that he has created by him will continue to be remembered by anyone involved in bitcoin, but also not a few who doubt his success, therefore it may be very right that his identity is unknown to others.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: nullama on September 22, 2022, 03:19:06 AM
~snip~
Satoshi Nakamoto indeed deserves it but we are still not sure if Satoshi Nakamoto is only one person or a group of people, we will not know this at the moment. And another thing is can we award a noble prize to a person that is anonymous or unidentified?
Overall, whoever and whenever Satoshi Nakamoto now is, he/they are really proud on Bitcoin now.

That is the main issue really:

The prize, as in this instance, the Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Science in Memory of Alfred Nobel, is never awarded anonymously nor posthumously.

It seems that Satoshi Nakamoto has been nominated already:

Although UCLA Professor Bhagwan Chowdhry chose to nominate the pseudonymous creator of Bitcoin, Satoshi Nakamoto, for the Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, it appears The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences will not consider the nomination unless the legendary Nakamoto were to reveal his identity.

I think it's safe to say that Satoshi will forever remain anonymous.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: goldkingcoiner on September 22, 2022, 04:28:18 AM
Satoshi Nakamoto does indeed deserve a nobel prize in economics for the discovery of next-gen money. I think he has given the people part of their freedom back and that is worth so much to me that its indescribable. If we knew his identity he probably would have already gotten one. But I do not think that faceless anonymous people with fake names get awarded nobel prizes. Which, is a wrong way to think. I would want to honor Satoshi Nakamoto either way. Even if he is just a "decentralized being".

If you really think about it, shouldn't we all be striving towards his attitude of "I don't need nor want fame, power or wealth. This invention is for the people Do what you will with it".


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: passwordnow on September 22, 2022, 04:35:51 AM
That professor did the right thing and he knows the true value of what satoshi did. Satoshi whoever he or they are deserves a Nobel prize. There are many categories for which they can award that Nobel prize and Satoshi's work did disrupt fintech. Although it's been seen before but on his time, it really made a lot of buzzes and until now his work keeps on going on. Do we need to make those online signatures for them to accept the proposal of that professor for nominating Satoshi?


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: davis196 on September 22, 2022, 06:06:10 AM
Satoshi deserves a Nobel prize, but he would refuse to take it, because this is against his beliefs.
Most of the Nobel prize winners in the Economics category were fanatic fiat money supporters. They were pro-establishment, while Satoshi wanted to create an alternative to the fiat financial system, which means that he is anti-establishment.
Even if Satoshi was nominated for a Nobel prize, the Nobel committee would never pick him as the winner in the Economic science category.
We don't know about Satoshi's views on the current state of Bitcoin. Does he like what he created or is he disappointed with Bitcoin/crypto?
I'm not sure, but I think that he might be disappointed with the transformation of Bitcoin into a speculative investment asset.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on September 22, 2022, 07:10:02 AM
Especially after recent Ukraine crisis when we saw how donations could pour in in bitcoin. We saw how bitcoin can help people in events of war when banks were either closed or had frozen accounts.. People were homeless and short of money. We saw how bitcoin helped war affected people to overcome financial barriers and this showed the true potential of bitcoin
I just think for this fact beyond all other reasons is enough for Satoshi to have been given an award had he not been  anonymous for inventing Bitcoin, because the war between Russia and Ukraine really made us to understand how useless fiat currency was to Bitcoin, because according to research, i was made to understand that while banks and other payment gateways was deactivated, Bitcoin was the only means through which over $54 million donations was made as support to Ukraine war victims against Russia


Ukraine raises 54 million as bitcoin donations surge amid Russian war (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/03/03/ukraine-raises-54-million-as-bitcoin-donations-surge-amid-russian-war.html)


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: LogitechMouse on September 22, 2022, 07:32:39 AM
Satoshi really deserves the Nobel Prize for what he/she/they invented, and it is indeed the greatest invention of the 21st century.
The problem is who will receive the award? Craig Wright? Ohhh hell No!!! Just don't nominate Satoshi if Faketoshi-t will be the one to receives it if Satoshi will be the winner.

Although UCLA Professor Bhagwan Chowdhry chose to nominate the pseudonymous creator of Bitcoin, Satoshi Nakamoto, for the Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, it appears The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences will not consider the nomination unless the legendary Nakamoto were to reveal his identity.

I think it's safe to say that Satoshi will forever remain anonymous.
Identity over security.
If I were Satoshi, I'd rather keep myself anonymous rather than showing myself in public just to get the award. In the end, Satoshi will be popular because of Satoshi being anonymous the whole time.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Darker45 on September 22, 2022, 08:19:56 AM
There was already a nomination submitted by Chowdhry himself. Unfortunately, it was to no avail. One of the primary reasons probably why that was rejected was the fact that there's no one who is Satoshi Nakamoto. If the Nobel Prize won't even accept a posthumous nomination, I guess it wouldn't also accept a nomination of an anonymous person or group. However, I think there are probably a number of much deeper reasons why Satoshi isn't awarded with this prestigious prize.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: worldofcoins on September 22, 2022, 08:34:46 AM
I was scouting through internet and i came across this very interesting post on if Satoshi deserve a Nobel prize.
Infact many forums had discussed it
Infact a professor  Bhagwan Chowdhry at the University of California in the United States presented the proposal of Nobel prize for Satoshi stating that technology presented by Satoshi is the most significant development of the 21st Century and will have immense implications in the way finance will be conducted in the future


It's true that satoshi deserves a Nobel prize but would he get out of the dark to show his face to the majority of people, I don't think so.
Satoshi could've shown us his face long before if he was interested in getting the attention.

Personally i believe that Satoshi do deserve nobel prize for his work.
Especially after recent Ukraine crisis when we saw how donations could pour in in bitcoin. We saw how bitcoin can help people in events of war when banks were either closed or had frozen accounts.. People were homeless and short of money. We saw how bitcoin helped war affected people to overcome financial barriers and this showed the true potential of bitcoin and how it can support financial support and financial inclusion of poor and needy.

I believe for such a great contribution to science and humanity Satoshi do deserve a price, even when he is anonymous.

I request members to express their opinion as well.


It's not for you or I to decide whether he deserves the prize for his work, I'm sure satoshi would want to stay anonymous no matter what even if it means not accepting nobel prize.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: DigitalMonk on September 22, 2022, 09:07:41 AM
It seems many of you are facinated about Satoshi. Some you have become genuine fan of Satoshi. But the truth is few of you actually do not want Satoshi to be publicly known for some private interest.

If you want Satoshi to be publicly known and nominate him for the Nobel Prize candidate for contribution to economic nd monetary science, then why not ask Satoshi to publish his identity ? 

If Satoshi publish his identity and get a Nobel Prize, I am sure Bitcoin value will go to the moon over night.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Pmalek on September 22, 2022, 09:20:23 AM
He does deserve one but these awards usually are only granted posthumously.
Judging by this source (https://www.nobelprize.org/frequently-asked-questions/), they can not be awarded posthumously. The only exception is if satoshi were to be nominated and then he dies before he receives the award. But since satoshi is an anonymous character or even a group of people, you can't nominate someone like that. Satoshi sits on a treasure worth billions of dollars that he doesn't touch. I don't see him caring for prizes and rewards. 

I am sure that a certain Craig would love to claim the award.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Lucius on September 22, 2022, 10:22:24 AM
It seems many of you are facinated about Satoshi. Some you have become genuine fan of Satoshi. But the truth is few of you actually do not want Satoshi to be publicly known for some private interest.

No one is "facinated" as you say, but some may be fascinated (some much more than they should like you) with who Satoshi is, and they forget that what he did is much more important. It is not your decision or mine whether Satoshi will ever reveal his identity, but exclusively his personal matter which should be respected.

If Satoshi publish his identity and get a Nobel Prize, I am sure Bitcoin value will go to the moon over night.

Probably the exact opposite would happen, because Bitcoin would somehow become centralized and various experts would immediately start speculating about his alleged 1 million BTC and what would happen if he tried to sell it. My opinion is that Satoshi left because some close associates started calling him out for making too many decisions independently, but also because it was the only way for Bitcoin to become what it is today.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Nrcewker on September 22, 2022, 01:52:46 PM
I don't know, we even don't know who Satoshi in the first place so how can we award him the Nobel prize? Is he just a single individual or group of person who created Bitcoin?

I guess it will be better if we leave it that way, we don't need to attract more attention. It has accomplished what it needs to be done in the last 10 years and it continue to grow. For sure Satoshi might not in favor of this one as he really doesn't want to be in the limelight.

Satoshi used this name to remain anonymous. How come he will come out in public for this award?
Seeing the growth of Bitcoin, is an honour and respect for him.
For him, seeing the popularity of Bitcoins which is his own creation is more than any noble prize.
And yes Satoshi also never wants himself to get credited for the growth of the Bitcoins. Bitcoins have reached this high popularity due to it’s users only.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Eternad on September 22, 2022, 02:00:09 PM
I don't know, we even don't know who Satoshi in the first place so how can we award him the Nobel prize? Is he just a single individual or group of person who created Bitcoin?

I guess it will be better if we leave it that way, we don't need to attract more attention. It has accomplished what it needs to be done in the last 10 years and it continue to grow. For sure Satoshi might not in favor of this one as he really doesn't want to be in the limelight.

Satoshi used this name to remain anonymous. How come he will come out in public for this award?
Seeing the growth of Bitcoin, is an honour and respect for him.
For him, seeing the popularity of Bitcoins which is his own creation is more than any noble prize.
And yes Satoshi also never wants himself to get credited for the growth of the Bitcoins. Bitcoins have reached this high popularity due to it’s users only.
There are many credits and awards or ciatations that wanted to address to Satoshi even before but despite of BTC Success he didn’t show interest to come out since he wanted BTC to be as unanimous as possible and it starts by not involving himself in whatever BTC gets. We don't know his whereabouts and for sure he will keep himself unknown no matter what happens in BTC. It's enough that people acknowledged him as creator of BTC but not to the point he will exposed himself, though many artist,scientist or inventors really aims to win nobel prize for their invention or discoveries.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: seoincorporation on September 22, 2022, 02:29:28 PM
Just as Linus Torvalds get his Technology Nobel in 2012 for creating the Linux operative system, i think Satoshi deserves that Nobel too.

Satoshi was nominated in 2016 for this prize, but he didn't win it. I think the problem is the anonymous fact and all the disputes about who is Satoshi. What if Craig becomes Satoshi by the legal way even without proof? How does the community will feel watching Craig getting that prize? i think that would be terrible bot the crypto community.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: The Cryptovator on September 22, 2022, 03:24:30 PM
No doubts Satoshi deserves more than a Nobel. But wondering how and who will accept? Likely in case, Nobel authority accepts Satoshi then there would be a Satoshi foundation that will take care of Nobel. I am not much aware of a Nobel deserve person who doesn't exist physically.

What if Craig becomes Satoshi by the legal way even without proof? How does the community will feel watching Craig getting that prize? i think that would be terrible bot the crypto community.
Faketoshi won't be Satoshi anyway. So it won't happen. Even Court decline his claim so how Nobel authority will accept him as Satoshi?


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: uneng on September 22, 2022, 03:34:25 PM
Personally I think the most important recognization Satoshi has already achieved without Nobel prize or any other honorable mention by authorities or centralized organizations, groups of power and interest. Satoshi has the respect and acknowledgment from common anonymous people of the world who have adopted bitcoin and changed their lives considerably thanks to the decentralized blockchain's ecosystem. After all, that is what really matters and confers him the assurance he accomplished with his duty in this world for a good cause that impacted hundreds of thousands of people positively and will reach many more yet.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: m2017 on September 22, 2022, 04:15:17 PM
Just as Linus Torvalds get his Technology Nobel in 2012 for creating the Linux operative system, i think Satoshi deserves that Nobel too.

Satoshi was nominated in 2016 for this prize, but he didn't win it. I think the problem is the anonymous fact and all the disputes about who is Satoshi. What if Craig becomes Satoshi by the legal way even without proof? How does the community will feel watching Craig getting that prize? i think that would be terrible bot the crypto community.
When reading this topic, I also had a concern that Craig might appear for the Nobel Prize, if  Satoshi wins it and and reading your post, I could not resist commenting. This will be an unpleasant surprise that will affect newcomers who will believe this and buy his shitcoin. It worries me that people who don't know the whole truth about faketoshi may be deceived by this award. The bitcoin-community knows who Craig really is, so they will avoid this fate.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: fullhdpixel on September 22, 2022, 07:14:52 PM
Personally i believe that Satoshi do deserve nobel prize for his work.
Indeed, Satoshi deserves at least one Nobel prize for his work.

But there's a "logistics" problem. Satoshi's identity is not known, even more, the world is full of Satoshi impersonators/wannabes. And I would not be surprised one of those will try to go to get the prize. And such development has the potential to end up badly for both the bitcoin community and the organizers too.

Impostor Craig Wright would be first in line to get it.  ;D
But that is if he could get it :D because everyone knows who is him. I don't think Satoshi will reveal himself only to get the award because so many years have passed already and he still choose to be anonymous. I see that there is a website for this noble event where they display the bio and the image of the awardee.

Even if Satoshi didn't receive his physical prizes, they can always put the logo of btc in that site or maybe a faceless image with some btc images on it? And then they put his bio if who he is and what is his contribution. If ever Satoshi is there, he will be proud of that already and this gives an extra exposure for bitcoin.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: famososMuertos on September 22, 2022, 08:32:07 PM
I don't know! perhaps in your suggestion there is a bit of ignorance on the subject, maybe you think that this is like one of those MTV awards that are given for popularity , etc. In any case, like any serious award, the Nobel is, but without a doubt it is the most bureaucratic that exists and in a certain way prejudiced.

These qualifications do not take away the value and recognition they have for the scientific community, for example in the Nobel Prize for Physics, where without discussion sometimes prizes are awarded to those who truly deserve it, we must add the literary ones where perhaps it begins to be some overtones of subjectivity, then there are the economic awards where we can begin to have winners where subjectivity grows even more, and so on, anyway getting into the circuit for a nomination is quite complex and full of requirements.

Einstein, for example, would surely have won due to gravitational waves, things that in the end could be demonstrated just a few years ago but he is dead, on the other side are those who should have won a Nobel in life but the arbitrary questioning and bureaucracy to access to a nobel prize are uphill, Vera Rubin is one of those absurd cases that the Nobels have to give a prize to who really deserves it.

This great woman and scientist said these great words when she was asked about why she was never awarded a Nobel Prize and I think they are useful in the case of SN:

"Fame is fleeting, my numbers mean more to me than my name.
If astronomers are still using my data years from now, that is my greatest compliment. "
Quotes by Vera Rubin

:https://physicsworld.com/a/how-vera-rubin-broke-barriers-and-convinced-the-astronomy-community-that-dark-matter-exists/


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: suzanne5223 on September 22, 2022, 11:33:39 PM
I was scouting through internet and i came across this very interesting post on if Satoshi deserve a Nobel prize.
Infact many forums had discussed it
Infact a professor  Bhagwan Chowdhry at the University of California in the United States presented the proposal of Nobel prize for Satoshi stating that technology presented by Satoshi is the most significant development of the 21st Century and will have immense implications in the way finance will be conducted in the future
Yes, Satoshi deserves the Nobel prize award for combining his ideas, and all the research done by some Universities and in the cryptography community to create what we called Bitcoin and blockchain today.

Personally i believe that Satoshi do deserve nobel prize for his work.
The creation of Bitcoin is not all own his work. Read the Satoshi session (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5092492.msg49020535#msg49020535) written by Theymos


I don't know, we even don't know who Satoshi in the first place so how can we award him the Nobel prize? Is he just a single individual or group of person who created Bitcoin?
I believe Satoshi is just an individual but he works with a lot of C++ and cryptography professionals anonymously.

I liked dealing with Satoshi when I did (which wasn't all that often), and I respected him a great deal. He had an incredible amount of "arrogance" in the sense that he saw seemingly-impossible challenges and believed (correctly) that he could conquer them, but yet he had zero arrogance in the commonly-understood sense. He was willing to give help to and accept help from people who knew and accomplished far less than him on the whole. He treated even me with respect, even though I was a 19-year-old excessively-individualistic idiot in 2010. I tend to remember Satoshi as a person who figured out what needed to be done, used all of his aptitude to get it done, and rarely got distracted by human failings like pride or fear. (Of course, this perception may well be more of a symbol in my head than an accurate image of a real person.)



Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: budi691 on September 23, 2022, 06:59:01 AM
for his discoveries in the 21st century Satoshi Nakamoto undoubtedly deserves the Nobel Prize. although it didn't receive too much positive praise in its early stages, but the impact that blockchain technology and Bitcoin has created for many people today and in the future, eventually everyone recognized it. I think whoever Satoshi deserves the Nobel prize even though it's still a mystery the satsoshi nakamaoto is anonymous


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Lucius on September 23, 2022, 01:25:22 PM
How does the community will feel watching Craig getting that prize? i think that would be terrible bot the crypto community.

In Colombia, Faketoshi is recognized as the real Satoshi, although it doesn't really mean anything - but I believe that everything is possible in this crazy world, including Faketoshi winning the Nobel Prize, which would only be a confirmation that something is very rotten in the Nobel Committee. As I already wrote in the previous post, that award no longer represents absolutely nothing to me - and as far as I'm concerned, those who make decisions can award it to themselves.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: kryptqnick on September 23, 2022, 03:43:06 PM
I think that Satoshi deserves a Nobel in Economics. It's first an foremost and economic innovation, and it's innovation of the kind that changed the world in many aspects, created a whole new industry, revisited what money is, what its essential traits are, and how it can be otherwise, and demonstrated in practice that a decentralized unregulated currency is not only possible but can also be attractive for a significant number of people around the world. Of course, since Satoshi's identity is unknown, they wouldn't know who to give the prize to, and it would be terrible if they gave it to Craig. So Satoshi is unlikely to receive this recognition.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: dezoel on September 23, 2022, 08:24:51 PM
There are categories of Nobel prize, in which category do we think that he deserved it? There is a finance Nobel prize for example and that means he should have won it long time ago if you ask me, he did an academic research on blockchain and online money and created bitcoin out of it and I agree that it is definitely something amazing and deserves a Nobel prize.

But, if we are talking about any other category, peace prize, or any other thing like physics or chemistry etc, obviously it is not okay because we are talking about something he did not contributed to. Finance would be the only one that's okay and I am not sure if it would be easy to decide or not. Because it was long time ago.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: KingsDen on September 23, 2022, 08:45:47 PM
I think that Satoshi deserves a Nobel in Economics. It's first an foremost and economic innovation, and it's innovation of the kind that changed the world in many aspects, created a whole new industry, revisited what money is, what its essential traits are, and how it can be otherwise, and demonstrated in practice that a decentralized unregulated currency is not only possible but can also be attractive for a significant number of people around the world. Of course, since Satoshi's identity is unknown, they wouldn't know who to give the prize to, and it would be terrible if they gave it to Craig. So Satoshi is unlikely to receive this recognition.

When you talk about great men in Economics, I have forgotten their names. The ones that discussed about the law of demand and supply, the ones that talked about insatiable nature of man, the ones that talked and about fixed and variable factors. They all did wonderful works, but Satoshi came with an exception, he didn't bring theory but practical and created a strong community around the world without government support.

Satoshi brought about liberty and freedom, as such needs award in Macro Economics and also in humanity. Even if no one receives the award, let it be reserved to the name "Satoshi Nakamoto".


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Issa56 on September 24, 2022, 12:27:48 PM
Satoshi is indeed a create man, he really deserves to be honored, Satoshi really deserve a noble prize but nobody knows him so I don't know how that will be easy, I believe Ukraine president should create a holiday which he should name it (Bitcoin free day), because am sure bitcoin really helped them during the war against Russia. Not only Ukraine president should do that am sure other presidents should also do that just to honor satoshi. If I have opportunity in my country, I will create a public holiday and it will be named bitcoin free day, I might even name some Higher institution in my country after satoshi, I think those are the ways we can honor him, he can't be given any award because nobody knows him.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: satosatanaka on September 24, 2022, 09:50:25 PM
According to the rules ‘ A prize may not be shared among more than three individuals’.

So if the team behind bitcoin was greater than three individuals then no prize.

I don’t think an anon can win the prize either.

Regardless somewhere out there George and the gang would be happy to read this thread.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: bitbollo on September 24, 2022, 10:21:56 PM
it is an interesting idea, for sure a nice proposal.
but it seems to me really difficult that he/she/they will ever receive such recognition.
from a certain point of view this would also be a sort of "certification" of the failure&backwardness of the old FIAT system ;)


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Findingnemo on September 25, 2022, 04:21:22 AM
I was scouting through internet and i came across this very interesting post on if Satoshi deserve a Nobel prize.
Infact many forums had discussed it
Infact a professor  Bhagwan Chowdhry at the University of California in the United States presented the proposal of Nobel prize for Satoshi stating that technology presented by Satoshi is the most significant development of the 21st Century and will have immense implications in the way finance will be conducted in the future

Personally i believe that Satoshi do deserve nobel prize for his work.
Especially after recent Ukraine crisis when we saw how donations could pour in in bitcoin. We saw how bitcoin can help people in events of war when banks were either closed or had frozen accounts.. People were homeless and short of money. We saw how bitcoin helped war affected people to overcome financial barriers and this showed the true potential of bitcoin and how it can support financial support and financial inclusion of poor and needy.

I believe for such a great contribution to science and humanity Satoshi do deserve a price, even when he is anonymous.

I request members to express their opinion as well.
He definitely deserves the reward for successfully implementing the blockchain technology into the monetary system and it worked but who will get the reward since we don't really know who is Satoshi Nakamoto and he didn't want to expose it until now so I feel let it be and still we have to see big change than what we are experiencing now.

The real world transactions are made using bitcoin, price tags in Bitcoin, people with money on their own wallets.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Jeger.Kiting on September 25, 2022, 06:56:01 AM
Many people who interact with the cryptocurrency industry (not just coders and other experts, but also regular investors) surely agree with you that Satoshi Nakamoto deserves the Nobel Prize. But I have no idea how the awarding procedure will work (as some in this thread have noticed this). maybe in absentia Of course, no one will attend the ceremony to accept the award, but if it does, it will undoubtedly have a beneficial impact. An award of this stature would signify bitcoin's official acknowledgement and undoubtedly draw the attention of many who have never even heard of it.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Asiska02 on September 25, 2022, 11:20:16 AM
Satoshi ought to be honoured for the great technology he created, which has aided many people in some way. Given that we don't even know him in person, giving him the price is unnecessary. I feel that his absence has made bitcoin what it is today, and that identifying himself will only leave bitcoin vulnerable in the hands of the government, which has all regulatory powers in the country. In his last message, he stated that "the future of bitcoin is safe," and I believe he will remain so as long as he remains anonymous to the public.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: dothebeats on September 25, 2022, 05:57:53 PM
I don't think Satoshi would even pass the initial screening. The criteria from their initial screening for nomination is strict, and also there are only a handful of entities that are allowed to nominate, and most of them belong to organizations that bitcoin isn't being taken as something good for their agenda. Sure, bitcoin may have been one of the revolutionary creations in the 21st century, but is its impact enough to be qualified into Nobel's selection process? Satoshi deserves some recognition from what they created, but I think a Nobel Prize is one that they wouldn't receive.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: nullama on September 26, 2022, 02:35:40 AM
I don't think Satoshi would even pass the initial screening. The criteria from their initial screening for nomination is strict, and also there are only a handful of entities that are allowed to nominate, and most of them belong to organizations that bitcoin isn't being taken as something good for their agenda. Sure, bitcoin may have been one of the revolutionary creations in the 21st century, but is its impact enough to be qualified into Nobel's selection process? Satoshi deserves some recognition from what they created, but I think a Nobel Prize is one that they wouldn't receive.

I think the main issue with this prize is the following requirement:

they must still be living at the time of the Prize announcement in October

Since Satoshi Nakamoto is anonymous, then that requirement will never be possible to be satisfied.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Flyingjack123 on October 03, 2022, 02:00:22 PM
(....)
I believe for such a great contribution to science and humanity Satoshi do deserve a price, even when he is anonymous.

I request members to express their opinion as well.
Satoshi Nakamoto indeed deserves it but we are still not sure if Satoshi Nakamoto is only one person or a group of people, we will not know this at the moment. And another thing is can we award a noble prize to a person that is anonymous or unidentified?
Overall, whoever and whenever Satoshi Nakamoto now is, he/they are really proud on Bitcoin now.

Completely agree with you..
There have been people who are ahead of their time like Mendel who gave the famous principle of inheritance and he was awarded noble price after his death  30 years after in died.
Before that there was no rule to award nobel posthumously.

Can we apply similar principle for Satoshi and make a rule change...


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Lewan on October 03, 2022, 02:17:27 PM
Why not?, I think the Nobel Prize can be given to anonymous people as well. Just as it can be given to people who have died, I think it can be given to people who have a name but whose identity is unknown. I loved this idea.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Codswallop on December 12, 2022, 11:07:05 AM
We don’t know whether Satoshi is a person or a group of people. And I think the Committee cannot nominate any anonymous person or group of persons for the Nobel Prize. The idea is good, but I don’t think it will happen until we figure out Satoshi really is/are.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Hamza2424 on December 12, 2022, 01:54:03 PM
This Op topic is too old and well-known so I know that this one is one of the already discussed ones. Posting again doesn't make sense. Satoshi did a revolution in the financial sector yes he deserves our honor and do honor him by adopting bitcoin not by giving him the award that means nothing to him. It will be more appreciating Nations to accept his dream, motive, and invention. It can change our lives it gives us what we need, financial freedom.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: hZti on December 12, 2022, 05:21:28 PM
Nobel prices are many times given after decades, because first they want to see if it is really useful for the humanity. So even if satoshi has not won a price by now, it does not mean he can win it in many years. Still I think it is a problem that he is not known.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Blawpaw on December 12, 2022, 05:25:28 PM
Of course Satoshi should be awarded with a Nobel Prize. Apart from creating one of the most important developments of the XXI century, Satoshi presented a gift to the world. Now, for those behind the Nobel Prize Mafia, it wouldnt make any sense as they only award the worse prople ever. Besides, why should we care if Satosi gets awarded on not? The Nobel Prize award is nothing but the get together of all the personalities that broght harm to the world.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Blawpaw on December 12, 2022, 05:26:10 PM
Of course Satoshi should not be awarded with a Nobel Prize. Apart from creating one of the most important developments of the XXI century, Satoshi presented a gift to the world. Now, for those behind the Nobel Prize Mafia, it wouldnt make any sense as they only award the worse prople ever. Besides, why should we care if Satosi gets awarded on not? The Nobel Prize award is nothing but the get together of all the personalities that broght harm to the world.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Ucy on December 12, 2022, 05:43:00 PM
Depends on where it comes from. Expecting the "system" to give Nobel prize to Satoshi is like expecting rats to give awards to inventors of rat poison. They will think it will legitimize Satoshi idea/ideals which the system considers as dangerous. If it ever happens, it will likely be given to Fakesatoshis. Fakesatoshis = those whose Bitcoin/crypto ideals run contrary to real Satoshi's ideals




Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: hZti on December 12, 2022, 06:15:36 PM
Depends on where it comes from. Expecting the "system" to give Nobel prize to Satoshi is like expecting rats to give awards to inventors of rat poison. They will think it will legitimize Satoshi idea/ideals which the system considers as dangerous. If it ever happens, it will likely be given to Fakesatoshis. Fakesatoshis = those whose Bitcoin/crypto ideals run contrary to real Satoshi's ideals




Im not shure if the nobel price comitee is really part of the establishment and would not consider giving a nobel price to satoshi. But for now the success of satoshi is not in inventing cryptography but only in giving the first ever example of a long term working cryptography coin. So I guess thats not enough for now.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: JoyMarsha on December 12, 2022, 06:47:22 PM
Satoshi is deserving of every humanitarian honor and award there is. But the problem is that anyone who identifies themselves as Satoshi exposes themselves to being tracked and watched by the entire globe. And for Satoshi to consider doing so would be foolish. Wherever he is, he will be pleased with how far what he invented (bitcoin) has come in resolving nations and people's emergencies.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: seoincorporation on December 12, 2022, 07:14:46 PM
I believe for such a great contribution to science and humanity Satoshi do deserve a price, even when he is anonymous.

I request members to express their opinion as well.

If think satoshi deserves that prize too, his contribution to society was enormous, he made from the world a better place with Bitcoin and he give freedom to the economy, And made it in a fair way for all with his decentralized project. But looks like the Novel Prizes has problems giving the prize to someone that still anonymous, maybe they are waiting to find out who satoshi is before giving the prize.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: AmoreJaz on December 12, 2022, 07:20:02 PM
Satoshi is deserving of every humanitarian honor and award there is. But the problem is that anyone who identifies themselves as Satoshi exposes themselves to being tracked and watched by the entire globe. And for Satoshi to consider doing so would be foolish. Wherever he is, he will be pleased with how far what he invented (bitcoin) has come in resolving nations and people's emergencies.

let us just be grateful of this invention. i don't think he will come out just because of this possible award. sure, he can be a part of history books, but i don't think he will aim for such recognition and risk his anonymity just to get the award. we are very fortunate to live in this generation knowing this technology. there's no need for the nobel prize just to know that we are thankful to this creation. just be a part of its continuing existence is more than enough.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: hZti on December 12, 2022, 07:26:53 PM
If think satoshi deserves that prize too, his contribution to society was enormous, he made from the world a better place with Bitcoin and he give freedom to the economy, And made it in a fair way for all with his decentralized project. But looks like the Novel Prizes has problems giving the prize to someone that still anonymous, maybe they are waiting to find out who satoshi is before giving the prize.

Can you describe in what way satoshi did an enormous contribution to society? Because I believe, the days of bitcoin are not yet there but the contribution will be enormous if governments stat to push for cashless banking systems.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: NeuroticFish on December 12, 2022, 07:55:13 PM
Can you describe in what way satoshi did an enormous contribution to society? Because I believe, the days of bitcoin are not yet there but the contribution will be enormous if governments stat to push for cashless banking systems.

His invention has a great potential to end the era of money created out of thin air and its value reduced constantly due to political decisions.
His invention has a great potential to move the banks out of their comfort zone, rethinking their services to be cheaper and better for people.
His invention has a great potential to get a good use to some of the resources that used to be wasted (and although it's not discussed much, that waste does/did contribute to green house effect).
And, let's not discuss only about money: his invention has a great potential to help you know where your clothes (or, more important, your medicines) were produced.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: RealMalatesta on December 12, 2022, 08:34:42 PM
Satoshi is deserving of every humanitarian honor and award there is. But the problem is that anyone who identifies themselves as Satoshi exposes themselves to being tracked and watched by the entire globe. And for Satoshi to consider doing so would be foolish. Wherever he is, he will be pleased with how far what he invented (bitcoin) has come in resolving nations and people's emergencies.
You do not have to give it to someone directly, it could be either post mortem which means they are dead, so you can't give it to them directly, or you could give it to someone imaginary as well, after all "someone" created it, so we know there is a human behind it all (I guess? :D) but that means you just won't give it to someone physically, that's it.

I personally believe he should get it, he deserves it, can you name a single person in any economic or many other areas that changed the world as much as Satoshi did? This dude created something that peaked at over 2+ trillion marketcap together, nobody in the world created something that huge and won Nobel before.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Ebede on December 12, 2022, 08:46:56 PM
I've not come across on this topic lifetime of food before but I believe that what you mean in this aspect it's making sense but the problem is that I don't think that satoshi deserve a price because I don't know the kind of price you are interested on whatever we get any digital currency it is the same thing as associate it only the initiator of cryptocurrency from my understanding


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: mendace on December 12, 2022, 09:29:06 PM
It is not within the purview of the Nobel Prize committee to award the prize to individuals who are anonymous, as the Nobel Prize is a public recognition and the recipient must be publicly identified. Furthermore, the Nobel Prize is typically awarded for achievements in the fields of chemistry, physics, literature, peace, and physiology or medicine, not for contributions to the field of computer science or finance. While the invention of Bitcoin has certainly had a significant impact on the world, it is unlikely that Satoshi Nakamoto would be considered for a Nobel Prize.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Newlifebtc on December 12, 2022, 10:04:33 PM
Satoshi is deserving of every humanitarian honor and award there is. But the problem is that anyone who identifies themselves as Satoshi exposes themselves to being tracked and watched by the entire globe. And for Satoshi to consider doing so would be foolish. Wherever he is, he will be pleased with how far what he invented (bitcoin) has come in resolving nations and people's emergencies.
Satoshi deserve any award for creating Bitcoin and they generally many people adopt that solution to collect all the coins that is working with bitcoin today but the problem is that since satoshi created this nobody has seen it or know who is satoshi even many people who is the following today and controlling forum have not seen satoshi before so they are what is something that he deserve what you cannot to give to him is like a bitcoin you can see it but you cannot have it or touch it with your mum


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: S_Speche on December 13, 2022, 12:58:04 AM

Is there a prize for keeping this forum without UI updates? Because that prize is mine and not theymos'. Stop bothering him with that topic.

Bitcoin has always been a cooperative group work with many people contributions crucial, specially in those early days. You should seek for them, ask them about FULL-RBF, and first seen rule. Hear those early addresses holders for advise.

12 years gone fast.

I'm not a threat for Bitcoin. FULL-RBF is.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Alpha Marine on December 13, 2022, 02:27:18 AM


The Nobel price is awarded to six fields; physics, chemistry, physiology, medicine, literature, and peace. I don't think bitcoin falls under any of these fields (I stand to be corrected).
That aside, Satoshi stayed anonymous for reasons like this. He probably doesn't want the implications that comes with it.
A criteria for the Nobel price is that the person receiving has to be alive. So since nobody knows the identity or identities of Satoshi how do we even know if he/they are still alive?

I don't also believe bitcoin is the most significant development in the 21st century. There are inventions like the mobile operating system. I also think blockchain is a more significant invention than bitcoin. If a Nobel prize is to be given it should be for blockchain and but then again, the idea of blockchain have always been present since 1982 first introduced by David Chaum. The first decentralized blockchain was created and used by Satoshi Nakamoto (who can be one person or a group of people) and that is what I believe deserves a Nobel prize ahead of bitcoin because an invention has to be acceptable by scientist as been able to pass the test of time. Sadly bitcoin has not done this but blockchain has.  


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: OsipBabin on December 13, 2022, 03:25:30 AM
I don't know, we even don't know who Satoshi in the first place so how can we award him the Nobel prize? Is he just a single individual or group of person who created Bitcoin?

I guess it will be better if we leave it that way, we don't need to attract more attention. It has accomplished what it needs to be done in the last 10 years and it continue to grow. For sure Satoshi might not in favor of this one as he really doesn't want to be in the limelight.

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Only when Satoshi Nakamoto announces his real identity can he be eligible for the award.

Professor Bhagwan Chowdhry proposed the idea that the bonus can be converted into bitcoins and sent to Satoshi Nakamoto's bitcoin address, but the Nobel Foundation disagreed. In other words, Satoshi Nakamoto must show up.

In terms of theoretical contributions and practical influence, Satoshi Nakamoto is qualified to win the Nobel Prize. This is also the spirit of Nobel: to reward those who have made great contributions to mankind!

Satoshi Nakamoto had a deep understanding of finance. Influenced by the Austrian school of economics. Philosophically inclined to natural evolution, like a free life. He is the founder of cryptoeconomics.

A person who wants to change the world doesn't care about the Nobel Prize. In a world with such advanced technology, it is strange not to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is.




Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: goldkingcoiner on December 13, 2022, 03:33:32 AM
I think you guys mean the Turing Award, not the Nobel Prize? Because there is no Nobel Prize for computer science. It does not exist. The Turing Award is however the "Computer science Nobel Prize" or is at least regarded as highly. If you were to ask me, I would say Satoshi Nakamoto, whoever and wherever he might be, we applaud him for his amazing achievement!  ;D ;) :D Because computer science is indeed a science. A branch of experimental mathematics, like physics but more meta, you could say. It does not get the respect it deserves due to being a new science.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: digaran on December 13, 2022, 04:17:08 AM
If only he was alive, sadly they killed him and took over.🤔


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on December 13, 2022, 05:26:10 AM
We don't think the nobel prize or anything more relevant goes to Satoshi Nakamoto, the great work he created has no comparable prize to give. Likewise with his personality, we never know whether Satoshi Nakomoto created Bitcoin alone or with his small group. One thing that I always think about right now, we need another Satoshi Nakamoto who can deliver the same masterpiece, so that humans have the option to get out of the investment system which is centralized and fully controlled by the government.

The greatest gift that we have to give him is simply to keep bitcoin to continue to grow and develop, even though the two decades that have been passed by bitcoin, have achieved extraordinary levels of success, both for promising assets and the best investments ever.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: dwminer1 on December 13, 2022, 08:10:28 PM
Speaking of satoshi - today it's been exactly 12 years since he was last active on this forum.

Satoshi's profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

https://i.imgur.com/KkCMdA1.png



Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: S_Speche on December 14, 2022, 01:35:34 PM

Is there a prize for keeping this forum without UI updates? Because that prize is mine and not theymos'. Stop bothering him with that topic.

Bitcoin has always been a cooperative group work with many people contributions crucial, specially in those early days. You should seek for them, ask them about FULL-RBF, and first seen rule. Hear those early addresses holders for advise.

12 years gone fast.

I'm not a threat for Bitcoin. FULL-RBF is.

What about my prize?


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: CryptSafe on December 14, 2022, 02:55:51 PM
I was scouting through internet and i came across this very interesting post on if Satoshi deserve a Nobel prize.
Infact many forums had discussed it
Infact a professor  Bhagwan Chowdhry at the University of California in the United States presented the proposal of Nobel prize for Satoshi stating that technology presented by Satoshi is the most significant development of the 21st Century and will have immense implications in the way finance will be conducted in the future

Personally i believe that Satoshi do deserve nobel prize for his work.
Especially after recent Ukraine crisis when we saw how donations could pour in in bitcoin. We saw how bitcoin can help people in events of war when banks were either closed or had frozen accounts.. People were homeless and short of money. We saw how bitcoin helped war affected people to overcome financial barriers and this showed the true potential of bitcoin and how it can support financial support and financial inclusion of poor and needy.

I believe for such a great contribution to science and humanity Satoshi do deserve a price, even when he is anonymous.

I request members to express their opinion as well.


Bitcoin l must say should be amongst one of the greatest achievements in the world do far. This award and recognition should have come long ago before now but I believe it was as a result of the counter argument and disagreement over the bitcoin policy that resulted to Satoshi not being recognized for his prestigious development. Now if I may ask even if he has been drafted to be given the award, do you think he would come out to showing himself to the world to accepting the honor? Do you not think it might be a bait to get at him?  If truly they had seen the effect and impart of his innovation was it today he invented it to have been recognized?  Award or no award, honour or no honour Satoshi has done more than what the award meant to the world.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: virasog on December 14, 2022, 03:02:52 PM
I was scouting through internet and i came across this very interesting post on if Satoshi deserve a Nobel prize.
Infact many forums had discussed it
Infact a professor  Bhagwan Chowdhry at the University of California in the United States presented the proposal of Nobel prize for Satoshi stating that technology presented by Satoshi is the most significant development of the 21st Century and will have immense implications in the way finance will be conducted in the future

Personally i believe that Satoshi do deserve nobel prize for his work.
Especially after recent Ukraine crisis when we saw how donations could pour in in bitcoin. We saw how bitcoin can help people in events of war when banks were either closed or had frozen accounts.. People were homeless and short of money. We saw how bitcoin helped war affected people to overcome financial barriers and this showed the true potential of bitcoin and how it can support financial support and financial inclusion of poor and needy.

I believe for such a great contribution to science and humanity Satoshi do deserve a price, even when he is anonymous.

I request members to express their opinion as well.


Bitcoin l must say should be amongst one of the greatest achievements in the world do far. This award and recognition should have come long ago before now but I believe it was as a result of the counter argument and disagreement over the bitcoin policy that resulted to Satoshi not being recognized for his prestigious development. Now if I may ask even if he has been drafted to be given the award, do you think he would come out to showing himself to the world to accepting the honor? Do you not think it might be a bait to get at him?  If truly they had seen the effect and impart of his innovation was it today he invented it to have been recognized?  Award or no award, honour or no honour Satoshi has done more than what the award meant to the world.

The problem here is to whom we can give the award or the Nobel prize ? No one knows who is satoshi and this award cannot be given to any person who is not known.😔

These awards are given by the government and the situation here is that no government is in favor of cryptocurrencies and bitcoin. Therefore, I don't expect that government will ever give Nobel prize for creating bitcoin.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: halim50_ on December 19, 2022, 02:49:34 PM
The first thing is that none of us know who Satoshi is, whether he is a boy or a girl or an organization or a single person. so who will get the Nobel Prize.
You don't need a Nobel Prize for your good work to be recognized if you have done something good that will be published as good work.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Wiwo on December 19, 2022, 03:56:25 PM
Who is Saroshi this question have been asked a million times within the last one decade ago when bitcoin was developed and launched. So who will award the of merit be titled to, is it the multiple fake Satoshi that have parades themselves claiming to be the real Satoshi. Or the award will go to a public ledger in form of blockcain based award that could be added to the Bitcoin network and verifiable on the blockchain using.the award txd harsh,  ;D just kidding any ways but going by the privacy and identity battle of Satoshi the award is irrelevant for any one of us and Satoshi in a whole.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: inthelongrun on December 19, 2022, 04:48:32 PM
Maybe it is the first time that a winner will be given to a person who only uses a pseudonym and remains anonymous. But is the Nobel award still prestigious these days? Maybe the other categories like science? I think the Nobel is now influenced by politics. Sweden a neutral in the previous 2 world wards is joining NATO. Not saying it is a bad decision for them.

Anyways, I think the real Satoshi Nakamoto is already dead. Hopefully, I am wrong and the person is living a good life and will remain anonymous forever or at least for a hundred years.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: justdimin on December 19, 2022, 08:48:31 PM
Maybe it is the first time that a winner will be given to a person who only uses a pseudonym and remains anonymous. But is the Nobel award still prestigious these days? Maybe the other categories like science? I think the Nobel is now influenced by politics. Sweden a neutral in the previous 2 world wards is joining NATO. Not saying it is a bad decision for them.

Anyways, I think the real Satoshi Nakamoto is already dead. Hopefully, I am wrong and the person is living a good life and will remain anonymous forever or at least for a hundred years.
I think it was Hal Finney as well, and unfortunately he passed away and unless he left any proof that he was Satoshi, we can't ever know about it and it's gone, he probably ordered his items to be destroyed properly and that means we will never learn who he was. On the other hand what kind of Nobel could he win?

There are two possibilities, either economics or peace one and I am not entirely sure they would give him the peace one, he didn't do anything to bring peace to anywhere, well to be fair Obama didn't neither, he ordered killings of so many people and yet they still gave it to him, but at the very least Satoshi doesn't get it. Economy in that case? But are we sure if this was a Nobel type of invention? Or was it more like a product type of invention? That's he question we need to figure out.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Ebede on December 19, 2022, 09:20:43 PM
Only such way that I will sell that satoshi deserve and Nobel prize it is a situation where am I the technology he brought to the world is now one to replace the Fiat currency so it deserve underworld because of each methodology of thinking and the ability to know that cryptocurrency especially bitcoin profitable generally to the world


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: KINVAN e on December 20, 2022, 08:43:35 AM
Satoshi deserve Nobel Prize, even after a decade no one is able to find the identity. Even if the organisers and jury take this into consideration the prize won't be received by the respective person. Each and every member of the forum will have the same thought and wish he gets Nobel Prize.

For now we can't do anything more to get him Nobel Prize. For now we can add a Nobel Prize badge to his Bitcointalk account through which he made his discussions. Maybe in future if the identity gets revealed, community can work for the real Nobel Prize.
What if no one comes to accept the award? I actually don’t really want to know who he is in my lifetime? I hope he lives in our imagination, in which he can take countless forms. The energy is endless.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Kryptowerk on December 20, 2022, 03:08:53 PM
Never thought about it but yes, the real Satoshi would definitely deserve a Nobel prize.
However, just imagine they issue the prize to Satoshi and who shows up? Fake-Toshi Graig Wright. *pukes*

Besides that, the current committee issuing the Nobel prize is questionable at best. The prize has big popularity / publicity, but it is far from politically independant or innovative.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Thuy Anh on December 21, 2022, 08:53:06 AM
Will there be a lot of Satoshi Nakamoto...
Bitcoin is worth it. He brought so much convenience to people. As long as you can remember your password. Your money will always be there, and you won't have to worry about your country's currency devaluing or becoming useless due to war consumption. Bitcoin can give people hope.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: inthelongrun on December 21, 2022, 04:02:57 PM
Maybe it is the first time that a winner will be given to a person who only uses a pseudonym and remains anonymous. But is the Nobel award still prestigious these days? Maybe the other categories like science? I think the Nobel is now influenced by politics. Sweden a neutral in the previous 2 world wards is joining NATO. Not saying it is a bad decision for them.

Anyways, I think the real Satoshi Nakamoto is already dead. Hopefully, I am wrong and the person is living a good life and will remain anonymous forever or at least for a hundred years.
I think it was Hal Finney as well, and unfortunately he passed away and unless he left any proof that he was Satoshi, we can't ever know about it and it's gone, he probably ordered his items to be destroyed properly and that means we will never learn who he was. On the other hand what kind of Nobel could he win?

There are two possibilities, either economics or peace one and I am not entirely sure they would give him the peace one, he didn't do anything to bring peace to anywhere, well to be fair Obama didn't neither, he ordered killings of so many people and yet they still gave it to him, but at the very least Satoshi doesn't get it. Economy in that case? But are we sure if this was a Nobel type of invention? Or was it more like a product type of invention? That's he question we need to figure out.

The guy is a genius. Pretty sure everything that may connect or provide hints were destroyed. There would be no evidence left behind as he understands well that bitcoin being decentralized will fare better when its founder remains unknown.

Nobel is missing something in their awards, technology. Peace is really impossible. It will fall into the economy category, although even at the current stage, bitcoin is not yet at the level wherein it influences certain nations' economies. If El Salvador somehow continues to buy at dips and then one day a single bitcoin reaches a million dollars in price, the bitcoin founder will qualify for the Nobel nominations. Anyways, posthumous is not possible for the Nobel.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: Kryptowerk on December 24, 2022, 12:25:58 AM

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Nobel is missing something in their awards, technology. Peace is really impossible. It will fall into the economy category, although even at the current stage, bitcoin is not yet at the level wherein it influences certain nations' economies. If El Salvador somehow continues to buy at dips and then one day a single bitcoin reaches a million dollars in price, the bitcoin founder will qualify for the Nobel nominations. Anyways, posthumous is not possible for the Nobel.
Indeed, Nobel does miss a lot of categories. And more importantly, they are not a truely independant prize-award.
What I am looking forward more than any prizes is the time, when the Bitcoin whitepaper will make it into economics schoolbooks all around the globe. My guess is this will happen in around 5 -10 years.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: KINVAN e on January 02, 2023, 07:28:04 AM

[...]
Nobel is missing something in their awards, technology. Peace is really impossible. It will fall into the economy category, although even at the current stage, bitcoin is not yet at the level wherein it influences certain nations' economies. If El Salvador somehow continues to buy at dips and then one day a single bitcoin reaches a million dollars in price, the bitcoin founder will qualify for the Nobel nominations. Anyways, posthumous is not possible for the Nobel.
Indeed, Nobel does miss a lot of categories. And more importantly, they are not a truely independant prize-award.
What I am looking forward more than any prizes is the time, when the Bitcoin whitepaper will make it into economics schoolbooks all around the globe. My guess is this will happen in around 5 -10 years.
I think it is possible, and I am very supportive of it being included in textbooks, and at least some graduate courses in universities can include white papers.
Satoshi Nakamoto should not have appeared at this stage, I am worried that he is in danger.


Title: Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi.
Post by: mash23 on January 02, 2023, 08:46:40 AM
I don't know, we even don't know who Satoshi in the first place so how can we award him the Nobel prize?