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September 22, 2022, 03:05:52 AM
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Even if we intend to give one, two and three Nobel Prizes to Satoshi, but unfortunately no one knows his identity, and I also believe that Satoshi never expected that.
The great work that he has created by him will continue to be remembered by anyone involved in bitcoin, but also not a few who doubt his success, therefore it may be very right that his identity is unknown to others.

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Satoshi Nakamoto indeed deserves it but we are still not sure if Satoshi Nakamoto is only one person or a group of people, we will not know this at the moment. And another thing is can we award a noble prize to a person that is anonymous or unidentified?
Overall, whoever and whenever Satoshi Nakamoto now is, he/they are really proud on Bitcoin now.

That is the main issue really:

The prize, as in this instance, the Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Science in Memory of Alfred Nobel, is never awarded anonymously nor posthumously.

It seems that Satoshi Nakamoto has been nominated already:

Although UCLA Professor Bhagwan Chowdhry chose to nominate the pseudonymous creator of Bitcoin, Satoshi Nakamoto, for the Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, it appears The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences will not consider the nomination unless the legendary Nakamoto were to reveal his identity.

I think it's safe to say that Satoshi will forever remain anonymous.

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September 22, 2022, 04:28:18 AM
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Satoshi Nakamoto does indeed deserve a nobel prize in economics for the discovery of next-gen money. I think he has given the people part of their freedom back and that is worth so much to me that its indescribable. If we knew his identity he probably would have already gotten one. But I do not think that faceless anonymous people with fake names get awarded nobel prizes. Which, is a wrong way to think. I would want to honor Satoshi Nakamoto either way. Even if he is just a "decentralized being".

If you really think about it, shouldn't we all be striving towards his attitude of "I don't need nor want fame, power or wealth. This invention is for the people Do what you will with it".

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September 22, 2022, 04:35:51 AM
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That professor did the right thing and he knows the true value of what satoshi did. Satoshi whoever he or they are deserves a Nobel prize. There are many categories for which they can award that Nobel prize and Satoshi's work did disrupt fintech. Although it's been seen before but on his time, it really made a lot of buzzes and until now his work keeps on going on. Do we need to make those online signatures for them to accept the proposal of that professor for nominating Satoshi?

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September 22, 2022, 06:06:10 AM
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Satoshi deserves a Nobel prize, but he would refuse to take it, because this is against his beliefs.
Most of the Nobel prize winners in the Economics category were fanatic fiat money supporters. They were pro-establishment, while Satoshi wanted to create an alternative to the fiat financial system, which means that he is anti-establishment.
Even if Satoshi was nominated for a Nobel prize, the Nobel committee would never pick him as the winner in the Economic science category.
We don't know about Satoshi's views on the current state of Bitcoin. Does he like what he created or is he disappointed with Bitcoin/crypto?
I'm not sure, but I think that he might be disappointed with the transformation of Bitcoin into a speculative investment asset.

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Especially after recent Ukraine crisis when we saw how donations could pour in in bitcoin. We saw how bitcoin can help people in events of war when banks were either closed or had frozen accounts.. People were homeless and short of money. We saw how bitcoin helped war affected people to overcome financial barriers and this showed the true potential of bitcoin
I just think for this fact beyond all other reasons is enough for Satoshi to have been given an award had he not been  anonymous for inventing Bitcoin, because the war between Russia and Ukraine really made us to understand how useless fiat currency was to Bitcoin, because according to research, i was made to understand that while banks and other payment gateways was deactivated, Bitcoin was the only means through which over $54 million donations was made as support to Ukraine war victims against Russia


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September 22, 2022, 07:32:39 AM
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Satoshi really deserves the Nobel Prize for what he/she/they invented, and it is indeed the greatest invention of the 21st century.
The problem is who will receive the award? Craig Wright? Ohhh hell No!!! Just don't nominate Satoshi if Faketoshi-t will be the one to receives it if Satoshi will be the winner.

Although UCLA Professor Bhagwan Chowdhry chose to nominate the pseudonymous creator of Bitcoin, Satoshi Nakamoto, for the Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, it appears The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences will not consider the nomination unless the legendary Nakamoto were to reveal his identity.

I think it's safe to say that Satoshi will forever remain anonymous.
Identity over security.
If I were Satoshi, I'd rather keep myself anonymous rather than showing myself in public just to get the award. In the end, Satoshi will be popular because of Satoshi being anonymous the whole time.

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There was already a nomination submitted by Chowdhry himself. Unfortunately, it was to no avail. One of the primary reasons probably why that was rejected was the fact that there's no one who is Satoshi Nakamoto. If the Nobel Prize won't even accept a posthumous nomination, I guess it wouldn't also accept a nomination of an anonymous person or group. However, I think there are probably a number of much deeper reasons why Satoshi isn't awarded with this prestigious prize.

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September 22, 2022, 08:34:46 AM
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I was scouting through internet and i came across this very interesting post on if Satoshi deserve a Nobel prize.
Infact many forums had discussed it
Infact a professor  Bhagwan Chowdhry at the University of California in the United States presented the proposal of Nobel prize for Satoshi stating that technology presented by Satoshi is the most significant development of the 21st Century and will have immense implications in the way finance will be conducted in the future


It's true that satoshi deserves a Nobel prize but would he get out of the dark to show his face to the majority of people, I don't think so.
Satoshi could've shown us his face long before if he was interested in getting the attention.

Personally i believe that Satoshi do deserve nobel prize for his work.
Especially after recent Ukraine crisis when we saw how donations could pour in in bitcoin. We saw how bitcoin can help people in events of war when banks were either closed or had frozen accounts.. People were homeless and short of money. We saw how bitcoin helped war affected people to overcome financial barriers and this showed the true potential of bitcoin and how it can support financial support and financial inclusion of poor and needy.

I believe for such a great contribution to science and humanity Satoshi do deserve a price, even when he is anonymous.

I request members to express their opinion as well.


It's not for you or I to decide whether he deserves the prize for his work, I'm sure satoshi would want to stay anonymous no matter what even if it means not accepting nobel prize.
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It seems many of you are facinated about Satoshi. Some you have become genuine fan of Satoshi. But the truth is few of you actually do not want Satoshi to be publicly known for some private interest.

If you want Satoshi to be publicly known and nominate him for the Nobel Prize candidate for contribution to economic nd monetary science, then why not ask Satoshi to publish his identity ? 

If Satoshi publish his identity and get a Nobel Prize, I am sure Bitcoin value will go to the moon over night.
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He does deserve one but these awards usually are only granted posthumously.
Judging by this source, they can not be awarded posthumously. The only exception is if satoshi were to be nominated and then he dies before he receives the award. But since satoshi is an anonymous character or even a group of people, you can't nominate someone like that. Satoshi sits on a treasure worth billions of dollars that he doesn't touch. I don't see him caring for prizes and rewards. 

I am sure that a certain Craig would love to claim the award.

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It seems many of you are facinated about Satoshi. Some you have become genuine fan of Satoshi. But the truth is few of you actually do not want Satoshi to be publicly known for some private interest.

No one is "facinated" as you say, but some may be fascinated (some much more than they should like you) with who Satoshi is, and they forget that what he did is much more important. It is not your decision or mine whether Satoshi will ever reveal his identity, but exclusively his personal matter which should be respected.

If Satoshi publish his identity and get a Nobel Prize, I am sure Bitcoin value will go to the moon over night.

Probably the exact opposite would happen, because Bitcoin would somehow become centralized and various experts would immediately start speculating about his alleged 1 million BTC and what would happen if he tried to sell it. My opinion is that Satoshi left because some close associates started calling him out for making too many decisions independently, but also because it was the only way for Bitcoin to become what it is today.

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I don't know, we even don't know who Satoshi in the first place so how can we award him the Nobel prize? Is he just a single individual or group of person who created Bitcoin?

I guess it will be better if we leave it that way, we don't need to attract more attention. It has accomplished what it needs to be done in the last 10 years and it continue to grow. For sure Satoshi might not in favor of this one as he really doesn't want to be in the limelight.

Satoshi used this name to remain anonymous. How come he will come out in public for this award?
Seeing the growth of Bitcoin, is an honour and respect for him.
For him, seeing the popularity of Bitcoins which is his own creation is more than any noble prize.
And yes Satoshi also never wants himself to get credited for the growth of the Bitcoins. Bitcoins have reached this high popularity due to it’s users only.

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September 22, 2022, 02:00:09 PM
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I don't know, we even don't know who Satoshi in the first place so how can we award him the Nobel prize? Is he just a single individual or group of person who created Bitcoin?

I guess it will be better if we leave it that way, we don't need to attract more attention. It has accomplished what it needs to be done in the last 10 years and it continue to grow. For sure Satoshi might not in favor of this one as he really doesn't want to be in the limelight.

Satoshi used this name to remain anonymous. How come he will come out in public for this award?
Seeing the growth of Bitcoin, is an honour and respect for him.
For him, seeing the popularity of Bitcoins which is his own creation is more than any noble prize.
And yes Satoshi also never wants himself to get credited for the growth of the Bitcoins. Bitcoins have reached this high popularity due to it’s users only.
There are many credits and awards or ciatations that wanted to address to Satoshi even before but despite of BTC Success he didn’t show interest to come out since he wanted BTC to be as unanimous as possible and it starts by not involving himself in whatever BTC gets. We don't know his whereabouts and for sure he will keep himself unknown no matter what happens in BTC. It's enough that people acknowledged him as creator of BTC but not to the point he will exposed himself, though many artist,scientist or inventors really aims to win nobel prize for their invention or discoveries.

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September 22, 2022, 02:29:28 PM
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Just as Linus Torvalds get his Technology Nobel in 2012 for creating the Linux operative system, i think Satoshi deserves that Nobel too.

Satoshi was nominated in 2016 for this prize, but he didn't win it. I think the problem is the anonymous fact and all the disputes about who is Satoshi. What if Craig becomes Satoshi by the legal way even without proof? How does the community will feel watching Craig getting that prize? i think that would be terrible bot the crypto community.

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September 22, 2022, 03:24:30 PM
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No doubts Satoshi deserves more than a Nobel. But wondering how and who will accept? Likely in case, Nobel authority accepts Satoshi then there would be a Satoshi foundation that will take care of Nobel. I am not much aware of a Nobel deserve person who doesn't exist physically.

What if Craig becomes Satoshi by the legal way even without proof? How does the community will feel watching Craig getting that prize? i think that would be terrible bot the crypto community.
Faketoshi won't be Satoshi anyway. So it won't happen. Even Court decline his claim so how Nobel authority will accept him as Satoshi?

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Personally I think the most important recognization Satoshi has already achieved without Nobel prize or any other honorable mention by authorities or centralized organizations, groups of power and interest. Satoshi has the respect and acknowledgment from common anonymous people of the world who have adopted bitcoin and changed their lives considerably thanks to the decentralized blockchain's ecosystem. After all, that is what really matters and confers him the assurance he accomplished with his duty in this world for a good cause that impacted hundreds of thousands of people positively and will reach many more yet.

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September 22, 2022, 04:15:17 PM
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Just as Linus Torvalds get his Technology Nobel in 2012 for creating the Linux operative system, i think Satoshi deserves that Nobel too.

Satoshi was nominated in 2016 for this prize, but he didn't win it. I think the problem is the anonymous fact and all the disputes about who is Satoshi. What if Craig becomes Satoshi by the legal way even without proof? How does the community will feel watching Craig getting that prize? i think that would be terrible bot the crypto community.
When reading this topic, I also had a concern that Craig might appear for the Nobel Prize, if  Satoshi wins it and and reading your post, I could not resist commenting. This will be an unpleasant surprise that will affect newcomers who will believe this and buy his shitcoin. It worries me that people who don't know the whole truth about faketoshi may be deceived by this award. The bitcoin-community knows who Craig really is, so they will avoid this fate.

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September 22, 2022, 07:14:52 PM
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Personally i believe that Satoshi do deserve nobel prize for his work.
Indeed, Satoshi deserves at least one Nobel prize for his work.

But there's a "logistics" problem. Satoshi's identity is not known, even more, the world is full of Satoshi impersonators/wannabes. And I would not be surprised one of those will try to go to get the prize. And such development has the potential to end up badly for both the bitcoin community and the organizers too.

Impostor Craig Wright would be first in line to get it.  Grin
But that is if he could get it Cheesy because everyone knows who is him. I don't think Satoshi will reveal himself only to get the award because so many years have passed already and he still choose to be anonymous. I see that there is a website for this noble event where they display the bio and the image of the awardee.

Even if Satoshi didn't receive his physical prizes, they can always put the logo of btc in that site or maybe a faceless image with some btc images on it? And then they put his bio if who he is and what is his contribution. If ever Satoshi is there, he will be proud of that already and this gives an extra exposure for bitcoin.

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I don't know! perhaps in your suggestion there is a bit of ignorance on the subject, maybe you think that this is like one of those MTV awards that are given for popularity , etc. In any case, like any serious award, the Nobel is, but without a doubt it is the most bureaucratic that exists and in a certain way prejudiced.

These qualifications do not take away the value and recognition they have for the scientific community, for example in the Nobel Prize for Physics, where without discussion sometimes prizes are awarded to those who truly deserve it, we must add the literary ones where perhaps it begins to be some overtones of subjectivity, then there are the economic awards where we can begin to have winners where subjectivity grows even more, and so on, anyway getting into the circuit for a nomination is quite complex and full of requirements.

Einstein, for example, would surely have won due to gravitational waves, things that in the end could be demonstrated just a few years ago but he is dead, on the other side are those who should have won a Nobel in life but the arbitrary questioning and bureaucracy to access to a nobel prize are uphill, Vera Rubin is one of those absurd cases that the Nobels have to give a prize to who really deserves it.

This great woman and scientist said these great words when she was asked about why she was never awarded a Nobel Prize and I think they are useful in the case of SN:

"Fame is fleeting, my numbers mean more to me than my name.
If astronomers are still using my data years from now, that is my greatest compliment. "
Quotes by Vera Rubin

:https://physicsworld.com/a/how-vera-rubin-broke-barriers-and-convinced-the-astronomy-community-that-dark-matter-exists/

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