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I haven't looked into the content of the site yet, but I recommend hiring a manager who can manage the announcement. This way it comes across as simple and cheap. Players are very critical, this way you run the risk that players choose not to visit the site because the announcement looks too simple. I assume they are new to the forum, so I think they still have every chance to make a nice project out of it. Has anyone played on the site yet?

Euphoriabet.io NO KYC Crypto Esports Betting  and Roulette

For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed

Just using up that NO KYC word just for the sake of getting some attention on this forum or the community?

I haven't really looked into the content of the site yet, but I recommend hiring a manager who can manage the announcement. This way it comes across as simple and cheap. Players are very critical, this way you run the risk that players choose not to visit the site because the announcement looks too simple. I assume they are new to the forum, so I think they still have every chance to make a nice project out of it. Has anyone played on the site yet?

Good snip!

This might be just those typical casinos that we do have today but the thing that they arent making claims or announcement on having no KYC because mentioning out this word should really be applied
and shouldnt be seen on terms and conditions.
Just using up that NO KYC word just for the sake of getting some attention on this forum or the community? You would rather get bad impressions on boasting up something but totally
opposite on whats stated on TOS.
Lastly, site design isnt that too good plus those fonts been used does hurt my eyes.  8)

5. AML/KYC POLICY
"Know Your Customer" and money laundering policy (hereafter the AML/KYC policy) is intended to prevent possible risks of the Website becoming implicated in any type of illegal activity.

Verification is not required on our site, but in some cases we may request it

International regulations require the Website to implement effective internal procedures and mechanisms to prevent money laundering, financing terrorism, trafficking narcotics or people, distributing weapons, corruption and bribery or the participation of the User in any other suspicious activity.

The procedure for identity confirmation demands that the User provide the Website with reliable documentation or information (ID card, driver license, passport, bank correspondence or service bill). Requested documents must be sent by User during 3 days since request made if no third-party services are involved (e.g. Bank, payment system). For the purposes of the AML/KYC policy, the Website has the right to gather and process the User's personal information.

The Administration has the right to check the identity of the User on an ongoing basis, particularly in cases in which the User's personal information changes or suspicious actions are performed. In addition, the Administration has the right to request updated documents from the User regardless of the fact that the User has confirmed he's identity in the past.

The User's personal information will be collected, stored and protected in accordance with the Privacy Policy. After the User's identity is confirmed, the Service has the right to absolve itself of potential judicial responsibility in situations when the Site is used to perform illegal activity.

For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed

This is the reason why we should always check ToS because if they are claiming to be KYC free there are still chances that those data can be collected in no time which is not ok to many. Being dishonest at first can lose the confidence of many, it’s sad to see a supposed good site to have this bad impression at first. Let’s see if they make things clear here, having an eSports is one of the bets I’ve tried before, this can be good though.

For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed

For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed

You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service (https://euphoriabet.io/terms) - (archived (https://archive.ph/wip/KyJmZ)) and Privacy policy (https://euphoriabet.io/privacy) - (archived (https://archive.ph/y5sfm))
https://i.imgur.com/9W4c6u4.png

https://i.imgur.com/LugAPcc.png

The title is misleading if they are asking KYC based on their policy, it's contradictory and misleading if players are not going to look in the TOS and believe what they promote in their title, they will be in trouble sooner,, its a trap to put a no KYC in the title of your thread here and then you have it in your policy, you have to explain it or better take that NO KYC to promote your casino.

Thanks for saving me time to read about their ToS because it's clearly misleading to see "No KYC" in the OP.

In any case, we have another casinos here, and the competition is going to be tough for new ones because some casinos have established themselves.

Nevertheless, it will be a challenge to the new ones like Euphoriabet.io. Although they are more focused on Esports and I don't think majority here are into it.

Why do you say there is NO-KYC when on your website you claim that you are collecting phone numbers, ID cards, addresses, and other documents from your customers?
I don't see that you have any gambling license and I think there is high risk of using any new gambling website like this.

I join the concern of notblox1, and others who have commented on the contradiction about KYC.

You can't headline this thread with a capital NO KYC, when your TOS and privacy service talk about KYC and AML as on many other sites.

There are many complaints on this forum from people who are upset that after winning a certain amount, the casino requires KYC, and it is partly their fault for not having read their TOS, but the title of this thread is totally misleading.

Now, I don't agree that not having a licence makes a casino less reliable. Freebitco.in doesn't, to give one example, and others. Plus in the past many have operated without a licence and without scamming anyone.

For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed

You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service (https://euphoriabet.io/terms) - (archived (https://archive.ph/wip/KyJmZ)) and Privacy policy (https://euphoriabet.io/privacy) - (archived (https://archive.ph/y5sfm))
https://i.imgur.com/9W4c6u4.png

https://i.imgur.com/LugAPcc.png

Looking at the site, you”ll see the matches right away and it’s really good to have a site that focuses more on the Esports. This site looks interesting, I’ve been following the Esports recently since I’m a player too, and having this site can help me think if I’m going to place a bet or not. Any chance to add other crypto as an option? I also suggest to have a marketing campaign here which can boost this site.

We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

You should know better, all casinos will ask for KYC if they violate the rules and are suspected of cheating but they are not promoting themselves as a no KYC casino, if you're promoting as a no KYC it's literally no KYC, the readers will take it as it is based on your title, you will just invite cheaters in your site because you promoted your casino as no KYC, but if they know that there is an exception then they will think twice joining and cheating the casino.

We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

Good point, there should be no KYC at all when a site claims to have NO KYC. For me it sounds like a marketing strategy only because maybe OP know that most people in this forum against KYC, so he use that words to attract people. Yes it can be misleading because most people do not read ToS or T&C before joining a platform. In fact KYC might be asked for some specific reason as stated in ToS. Basically it is the same with most other reputable casinos in this forum. They do not implement mandatory KYC and they have a term related to KYC but they do not claim to be "no kyc" casino. 

Its like fooling around once they implement KYC since they supposed to be a non KYC compliant as they claim that on their thread. So if they ask this then maybe this is a red flag because they can make this as an excuse for people who doesn't want to provide it to hostage their money if they don't do this procedure. But anyways let see how they can serve quality experience to their bettors.

We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

Welcome euphoriabet to bitcointalk.  :)

It is best to familiarize yourself with the rules of the forum. This prevents problems from occurring.  ;)
 Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.msg7955645#msg7955645)

Are there countries from which we are not allowed to play? I did not find this information on your site. Do you plan to organize competitions or a signature campaign here in the forum?

Welcome to the forum. Yes, indeed, your KYC policy is disclosed in the relevant section of the TaC and if the player does not abuse it, he may be able to avoid the KYC procedure. Are you going to expand the sports betting section by adding real matches or will you limit yourself to esports only?

https://i.imgur.com/7C2mCou.jpg

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We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

We accept all countries

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Hello OP good day and welcome to the bitcointalk forum. This is one of a great announcement threads created by newcomers here in the community because you do some effort and buy a copper membership in order to post images to become more professional in looking. Promoting your casino here in forum is a good option because here there are a lot of gamblers and for sure if your services is okay then you will gain more customers. Good luck OP and to your casino.

welcome to bitcointalk
op you said no need kyc for your casino site . this sound is really cool but i seen many details talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service . what do you mean actually about this ? i don’t know why your site keep kyc and AML policy on  terms of service but you ask no kyc on this topic headline ?

Do you have any plans to add more type of games in the next coming months/years, like live games and slots? Currently, I am only seeing sports and eSports betting on your site. I couldn't find the roulette, isn't it launched yet?
For your design, I would suggest to add a drop-down feature which can view less and view more.
Welcome to the forum!

Your site has a simple appearance, making it easier for users to have no trouble, the wagering prize promo is also not bad for a new site. At there already roulette but is it fair? No KYC does not same with the policies listed on your site, which the community has highlighted about it, so that for now also doubts to me. But anyway welcome to the forum euphoriabet !

We do not plan to add live games and slots

Roulette link https://euphoriabet.io/roulette

We do not require KYC any of the players  if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

though gamblers have the responsibility to read the casino's ToS, it would still be better to clarify the KYC rule from the start. I've seen gamblers complain about being asked about KYC usually when the gamblers try to withdraw when the gambling site states "NO KYC".

Yes we are sure of it, the amount does not matter, violation the rules is the only case when we can request it

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Just like the rest.They have the same or identical terms and conditions which they would really be asking for some verification whenever they do see suspicious activity on a certain user which is something not that shocking and any platforms that we do have today could really asked out those verifications if ever they do see those things.Its not misleading just like on what others been saying
because majority of platforms that we do have in the market doesn't ask out verifications before you can play.You could directly play without sending out various informations
but on the case where there are things which arent right then they do have the full rights on doing so.

Hello OP good day and welcome to the bitcointalk forum. This is one of a great announcement threads created by newcomers here in the community because you do some effort and buy a copper membership in order to post images to become more professional in looking. Promoting your casino here in forum is a good option because here there are a lot of gamblers and for sure if your services is okay then you will be gain more customers. Good luck OP and to your casino.

We do not require KYC any of the players  if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

In the near future, we will provide you with evidence of the fairness of roulette

We do not plan to add live games and slots

Roulette link https://euphoriabet.io/roulette

is your casino licensed?

We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

Just to drop my view on the KYC issues that have triggered a discussion on this thread, I think that a gambler should read through the terms and conditions of the casino before creating an account on the casino to avoid any confusion when the site demand KYC later on.

Most casinos ask for KYC from gamblers especially when there is a suspension of abuse of any kind.

We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

This website is the least secure one I've ever seen.
After finding a serious vulnerability, I reported it to their team.
I obviously can't expect bug bounty rewards when the website doesn't have such a program, but this is the first website I've ever bug hunted on that didn't pay ANYTHING.
The vulnerability made me able to generate infinite USDT+BTC.
My advice is to avoid this site. You could easily lose your crypto due to a malicious actor (If the site bankroll is cleaned).

leaving a bad review by not playing on the site just because you were not paid a reward for pointing out a bug is ridiculous, no one forced you to do it, you did it voluntarily

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leaving a bad review by not playing on the site just because you were not paid a reward for pointing out a bug is ridiculous, no one forced you to do it, you did it voluntarily

I totally agree that leaving a bad review just because I wasn't paid isn't fair.

The point of my review is to let potential customers know that a bug has been found (And fixed), and that their funds might not be safe.
The reason I'm saying their funds might not be safe, is due to how easily I found the vulnerability. If a malicious actor had found the vulnerability (And not me), then they could've slowly stolen your bankroll over time, and users wouldn't be able to withdraw what they'd won.

That said, I welcome you to the gambling scene.

Pro tip; Start a bug bounty program. Paying people to find bugs is a lot better than people finding bugs and exploiting them.
Also, make the roulette provably fair :)

just like every casino ? so you best say that you will not ask KYC upon depositing but will do in Withdrawal , because most of the casino (specially those who had a scam profie) says this anyway that they will not ask KYC but when they need to withdraw? some will be accused of being cheater and violating their rules.
though i am not literally called you as one , but best to not Put that Capitalized word "NO KYC" when the truth is? you will ask anyway.

This website is the least secure one I've ever seen.
After finding a serious vulnerability, I reported it to their team.
I obviously can't expect bug bounty rewards when the website doesn't have such a program, but this is the first website I've ever bug hunted on that didn't pay ANYTHING.
The vulnerability made me able to generate infinite USDT+BTC.
My advice is to avoid this site. You could easily lose your crypto due to a malicious actor (If the site bankroll is cleaned).

And also you made a warning message here after you report the bug to the admin. Meaning that they are already aware and probably fixed so your warning here is already not valid. Your negative comment is an obvious retaliation for not paying to your volunteer service.

About kyc, we have answered this before several times, if you want to find an answer, read other posts, do not ask the same question 10 times

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For starters, why claim to be a "no-KYC" casino when you can actually request KYC verification from any player at any time? Second, who gives you the legal right to collect any user personal information? What is your company? Where are you registered? Which jurisdiction?

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If you feel the questions have already been answered, please direct me to the post in which they were discussed. I would really appreciate it.

We do not require KYC any of the players  if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

^ I also wanted to know regarding this matter, it is very important if OP gives these details so that users of this gambling casino will lessen their doubt regarding the KYC. Because it will probably be possible a loophole when they saw a NO-KYC but when they withdraw it will ask KYC, it seems very frustrating if that will be on my side. Op just answer this question publicly so that you will know if your gambling casino is worth entrusting our fund not to become a scam.

^ I also wanted to know regarding this matter, it is very important if OP gives these details so that users of this gambling casino will lessen their doubt regarding the KYC. Because it will probably be possible a loophole when they saw a NO-KYC but when they withdraw it will ask KYC, it seems very frustrating if that will be on my side. Op just answer this question publicly so that you will know if your gambling casino is worth entrusting our fund not to become a scam.

Finding answers wont really be that hard as OP had already mentioned about KYC.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5414541.msg60994403#msg60994403

Just like the rest of the current gambling platforms nowadays does have this kind of similar terms which they could ask out potentially for verification or KYC
if they do saw something fishy.

I looked at all your posts carefully, but I can't find the one where you answered these questions:

If at all there is KYC at whatever time and for whatever reason then the casino should not have used the term NO KYC on their title because that will confuse some players who may think that the casino is a KYC free and will not take the time to read the T&C thereby making deposits and when KYC is demanded at whatever time they will raise questions as to why the casino us asking for KYC. So to make it simple, there is no need to write no KYC on the title of this thread since the site can request it at whatever time.

Afaik most of new casino like this usually don’t invest much on public bug bounty program so what you are doing is just a volunteer work and you don’t need to demand them to pay you.

Meaning that they are already aware and probably fixed so your warning here is already not valid. Your negative comment is an obvious retaliation for not paying to your volunteer service.

Basically, anyone can deposit, play and withdraw under normal conditions without performing KYC.  So I think there is no problem announcing that they don't do KYC.  It is also part of the marketing, telling people one of the unique features of the casino.  KYC will be implemented when they found an account suspicious.  So it is part of an investigation when the situation isn't "normal".

The above post is the statement of the team towards KYC.
So at the moment, they are not requiring KYC, unless they suspected you from violating their ToS.
However, with the scenarios that we have observed in a lot of gambling sites, they sometimes require KYC even if you haven't violated any of their protocols,
but just because you got big winnings. Now, up to you how you will trust the site about their statement on this aspect.

I understood your point correctly and I don't have any problem with that either, kyc is only requested when there is suspicion with the account and the account is under investigation that way kyc can be demanded for, and this is the practice with most casinos this days so that is understood that kyc is somehow part of the site but not mandatory to all players unless under strange behavior from the player.

I think it very much is misleading and honestly false advertising as well. If a casino says that they do not do KYC then thats that. No KYC. Saying "We do not do KYC" but then saying "Surprise! Do KYC or we will not give you your funds back" is very much misleading. Personally, I would not trust any online gambling casino that advertises like that. It does not seem like a serious casino to me. More like a copy/paste casino with misleading advertisments.

I would rather have a KYC casino than a dishonest casino.

Any chance to add other crypto as an option?

Why do you say there is NO-KYC when on your website you claim that you are collecting phone numbers, ID cards, addresses, and other documents from your customers?

I make deposit, and money not come.
btc and usdt....
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1AyWkosqGYSVPGsNhkNKKjyRwqMA43hSAd

We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

I make deposit, and money not come.
btc and usdt....
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1AyWkosqGYSVPGsNhkNKKjyRwqMA43hSAd

Welcome to the forum mate.
The site’s design and colour theme is great, and seeing “NO KYC” making me more anxious to try the site.
Regarding the 100% deposit bonus, what are the wagering requirements? You should have mentioned that in the OP.


Is your balance credited till now? Have you tried to contact their support at site? It’s really not cool if the deposits and the withdrawals are not automatic.
Please update us with your deposit status mate.

We accept all countries

I believe KYC should be mandatory for all sites of this nature. It would not be much effecting and attractive for new members without KYC. Also, I would OP buy a copper member account as well. Running a market campaign would also be mandatory for your site. I hope you can understand my point.

I am personally not interested on this site yet . coz i am still worried when i will deposit and win a big jackpot then they can ask kyc from me. i haven’t any problem to pass kyc if they ask it before deposit but i am not interested to pass kyc verification if they ask when i will will win a big jackpot . it will totally unfair

I am personally not interested on this site yet . coz i am still worried when i will deposit and win a big jackpot then they can ask kyc from me. i haven’t any problem to pass kyc if they ask it before deposit but i am not interested to pass kyc verification if they ask when i will will win a big jackpot . it will totally unfair

I believe they had answered the question. And one of the replies even pasted their TOS clause regarding the KYC. I even quoted that clause too.

As we know, only regulated casinos and gambling sites have to follow KYC and AML requirements. Euphoriabet.io is an unlicensed and unregulated gambling site. As such, there are no legal regulations in place that require KYC from players, and there is no legal protection of our personal data on such a site. When we share personal information with unregulated gambling sites, there are no guarantees that our information won't be sold to or used by criminals. Unlicensed and unregulated gambling sites are not held to the same legal standards as licensed sites, which means that you can never know for sure what their intentions are, or if they will stay in business. In the end, the choice is up to you, but I personally do not recommend divulging your personal information with unlicensed gambling sites.

As we know, only regulated casinos and gambling sites have to follow KYC and AML requirements. Euphoriabet.io is an unlicensed and unregulated gambling site. As such, there are no legal regulations in place that require KYC from players, and there is no legal protection of our personal data on such a site. When we share personal information with unregulated gambling sites, there are no guarantees that our information won't be sold to or used by criminals. Unlicensed and unregulated gambling sites are not held to the same legal standards as licensed sites, which means that you can never know for sure what their intentions are, or if they will stay in business. In the end, the choice is up to you, but I personally do not recommend divulging your personal information with unlicensed gambling sites.

This is practiced by most of the casinos, even most of the reputed casinos. We have seen this a lot of times here. I won't be really surprised because casinos want to confiscate users' money if they win big lol. I wouldn't recommend you use this site or any other site but if you are not going to give it a try, you won't know how they are. I don't try new sites unless they are offering very much attractive and lucrative bonuses.

You can say it is unfair if they have no terms related to KYC but if there is a term related to KYC, it is completely fair.
As what said by Little Mouse above, it is common thing in casinos where players are asked for KYC for huge win especially if the win come with low wagering activity.
If you say it in general perspective regardless the existing of the terms, means that you want to say that all casinos are unfair. Is it what you wanna say?

I believe KYC should be mandatory for all sites of this nature. It would not be much effecting and attractive for new members without KYC. Also, I would OP buy a copper member account as well. Running a market campaign would also be mandatory for your site. I hope you can understand my point.

It's already been six pages of comments in this thread but the title still says "NO KYC" even though it's been pointed out already. I know you said it's only required on certain cases but let me repeat that it's still not a "NO KYC" platform. You probably placed it there for marketing since bitcointalk gamblers loves privacy and anonymity. Don't you have anything else to use than a misleading title?

Thanks for the answer. That calms me down a lot. Too bad my other questions didn't get answered, but it's okay. Maybe they don't want to reveal anything about it yet. I can understand that.  :)

It's already been six pages of comments in this thread but the title still says "NO KYC" even though it's been pointed out already. I know you said it's only required on certain cases but let me repeat that it's still not a "NO KYC" platform. You probably placed it there for marketing since bitcointalk gamblers loves privacy and anonymity. Don't you have anything else to use than a misleading title?

For starters, why claim to be a "no-KYC" casino when you can actually request KYC verification from any player at any time?

Second, who gives you the legal right to collect any user personal information? What is your company? Where are you registered? Which jurisdiction?

But, how did you know that they will request a KYC later on? I don't think you have a crystal ball there to see what can happen in the future. Maybe they really mean it when they say "NO KYC". They are only a starter so they can start like this but if ever they change their policies later on then they better make a proper announcement in regards to that.

Don't get excited about this casino by watching the 'No KYC ' in their ANN thread title. Have you read the terms and privacy policy rules of Euphoriabet.io? 'logfiles' has already highlighted the KYC rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5414541.msg60989730#msg60989730) of Euphoriabet in the first page of this thread. Casino follow the rules of their terms when they take any decisions. You won't have the option to deny their request if they ask you to verify your identity. Euphoriabet.io is advertising in the forum with false information.

Second, who gives you the legal right to collect any user personal information? What is your company? Where are you registered? Which jurisdiction?

The NO KYC stuff is written probably because players can deposit, play and withdraw without undergoing the KYC procedure.  You cannot write the whole TOS on the title, can you?  It is also used to catch people's attention, as a marketing strategy and it is not misleading, IMO.  KYC is done to solve disputes between the Site and the player if something like that arises and it is clearly written on the
 TOS, else, the player can enjoy the site service without undergoing KYC procedure.

But, how did you know that they will request a KYC later on? I don't think you have a crystal ball there to see what can happen in the future. Maybe they really mean it when they say "NO KYC". They are only a starter so they can start like this but if ever they change their policies later on then they better make a proper announcement in regards to that.

For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed

You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service (https://euphoriabet.io/terms) - (archived (https://archive.ph/wip/KyJmZ)) and Privacy policy (https://euphoriabet.io/privacy) - (archived (https://archive.ph/y5sfm))
https://i.imgur.com/9W4c6u4.png

https://i.imgur.com/LugAPcc.png

Again they say they don't require a KYC but if they are planning to require it then they need to register their company first in a legal way and obtain a gambling license before they can do those things. Unlicensed sites that asks for a kyc is illegal and should be reported to the authorities if ever we have seen one.

maybe He missed those points or does not understand how Thread Title need to be placed?

I am afraid that he will ever change this Unless we let Him realized that it is need to be edited .

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anyway it's their choice not to address this issue and it's our choice not to pick this casino.

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The NO KYC stuff is written probably because players can deposit, play and withdraw without undergoing the KYC procedure.  You cannot write the whole TOS on the title, can you?  It is also used to catch people's attention, as a marketing strategy and it is not misleading, IMO.  KYC is done to solve disputes between the Site and the player if something like that arises and it is clearly written on the
 TOS, else, the player can enjoy the site service without undergoing KYC procedure.

I think that you are right that mate because like what other casino did they not require any kyc upon deposits but if the account has suspicious of cheating or violating the rules of regulations of the forum then they ask kyc which is needed in order to stop those abusive gamblers but let's wait for the review from other gamblers how they manage or handle their customers because we can say that casino is good if they have a good services from their customers.

The player who signed up gives the site the legal right to collect any user personal information once the requirement stated on the TOS and agreed upon by the player is met. I am not defending the site, just stating the obvious.  Though it is a red flag to not see that the site is licensed, @Euphoriabet if you are licensed by any gambling authority, please put it on you landing page (bottom of the front page where TOS and other important link is found.

I don't think I have euphoriabet.io there is a license from any authorized gambling authority, at least at the moment, it would be posted on their website, this is posted without the necessary reminders.

we no have license

we no have license

but still lets give them the benefits of the doubt mate until it happens , but of course this will be a warning if ever some of members here wanna consider depositing and playing.
i will keep an Eye about each posts from them team before considering to play as that NO KYC thing is always been a way to check their legitimacy .

Thank you for the answer, although it was visible on your casino's website, do you think that this may cause distrust on the part of potential players, maybe you should think about purchasing a license? It seems to me that this would be a good step towards the development of your online gambling platform and a guarantee for players in case of disputes.

but still lets give them the benefits of the doubt mate until it happens , but of course this will be a warning if ever some of members here wanna consider depositing and playing.
i will keep an Eye about each posts from them team before considering to play as that NO KYC thing is always been a way to check their legitimacy .

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Yes you are right that mate let's give them enough time to prove that they are not asking More KYC in terms of depositing and withdrawal from their customers.  But as I observe maybe this casino telling the truth but its better to be more vigilant and secure so for me if I play here I use a small amount but after that if they are good in managing then theres a chance that ill put such good an out of bet.

You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service (https://euphoriabet.io/terms) - (archived (https://archive.ph/wip/KyJmZ)) and Privacy policy (https://euphoriabet.io/privacy) - (archived (https://archive.ph/y5sfm))
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Thank you for the answer, although it was visible on your casino's website, do you think that this may cause distrust on the part of potential players, maybe you should think about purchasing a license? It seems to me that this would be a good step towards the development of your online gambling platform and a guarantee for players in case of disputes.

Lets just see the fact that there are many licensed casino become scam, it means that license is not really giving a legitimate view from players. They can run the project without license, as long as they can prove themselves to be reputable and reliable casino then license is not that important. As a gambler I do not really see or feel the benefits of the license.

License are just there to prove that they are a legal business. The trustfulness will depends on the gambler, Having a license is a additional points to me if I want to play on a new casino, Though this is not a deal breaker for me especially that I honestly don't look for license intentionally. I only see license as a way of a casino to build a trust to their possible customers given that they are paying tax and they abide the law.

Well, I agree. There is no guarantee that a licensed casino cannot scam. However, when it comes to KYC and my personal information, I would never give them to some unregulated site without even a license or a legal backing. Euphoriabet.io is an unlicensed and unregulated gambling site, which means there is no legal regulation requiring KYC from players, and there is no legal protection of our personal data. There is no way to tell what they are doing with it, it could be sold on the black market or used for all sorts of illegal purposes. As they are not governed by any laws, they are free to do as they please.

hey , welcome Euphoriabet.io , I checked that at some point there is an issue about delay in withdrawal but instant in deposit , maybe better to work at this because gamblers in this market specially in this forum hates delay when it comes to withdrawing because we are depositing with confidence .
anyway Hope to see you here long time like most of my favorite casino sites.

It's very interesting when there is a site that doesn't require a kyc like this, because for me some people need privacy, or other reasons not to provide their identity card. Plus the existence of a first deposit bonus, it really attracts the attention of potential new users.

You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service (https://euphoriabet.io/terms) - (archived (https://archive.ph/wip/KyJmZ)) and Privacy policy (https://euphoriabet.io/privacy) - (archived (https://archive.ph/y5sfm))
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Nowadays you can always assume that every random site will ask for KYC at some point. I don't believe in sites that say they don't. Or you must have an older site that has lived up to that. What I think is a very bad thing is that the subject of the ANN states that no KYC is requested, but that they then mention in the general terms and conditions that a KYC can be requested. Then you have to be more open and honest with the forum and (potential) customers. In my view, this is misleading what the site is doing now. I would therefore change the subject to bring back credibility.

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It looks like you haven't been paying attention to the thread. They will request for KYC whenever they feel like under the pretext of "suspicious activity". Well, that's what most casinos do anyway. They won't request for KYC when you sign up and make deposits, but the moment you win huge and try to withdraw, KYC will be requested.

Here you go;

To be honest, this is not the first casino that claim they don't ask for kyc but when you read their ToS you find out that this is not true! I won't say they are trying to deceive their customers but they definitely need to be more precise and clear about such matters. Like saying: kyc is not mandatory but we reserve the right to ask you to verify your identity at any moment if needed.
Personally I have no problem with kyc if it's done to comply with laws. But I've a problem with casinos using it for the wrong purposes like scamming players or delaying payments when they run out of funds..

I agree with decodx that the platform has no right to ask for KYC since they are unregulated by the government.

And in this case, probably the latter will be the reason since the casino isn't complying with the law by not having a license to operate.

Well, the casino has the right to do anything they want, that's how casinos works, they sate the rules and if the users aren't agree to those rules, then they can leave the site.

By the way, a big -1 for the thread tittle, that no KYC is a lie.

But the issue is, what is their right to collect KYC when their platform is unregulated?  It is the right thing to not ask for KYC since they don't have the right legally to ask for anyone's information because they can't give an excuse like the authority asking them to.  I agree with decodx that the platform has no right to ask for KYC since they are unregulated by the government.

Well, to be fair, you also have a right not to sign up on such unregulated casinos that may collect your KYC at one point, don't you?  :D
IMO, I already detest the casino given that they put a bold claim on NO KYC in the title, yet they actually ask for it whenever they want. It's a huge trap for noobs who don't read threads or don't even read terms of service when signing up.

This issue is the same to the casinos which promise that their bonus have no wager requirement but upon checking out their terms or service, it's clearly written that each bonus must be wagered. I know it was also the gamblers fault on why they got trapped on this but I think the casino itself can also be blame here for misleading marketing.

If only they will tell the truth, I don't think there are gamblers who will complain about it because some of us gambler do also check out the thread before we play but we only avoid reading the terms or use because they are compose of a wall of text and we think they aren't really that important.

Why would you need time to answer such a simple question!
If the game is fair and it uses a provably fair algorithm then simply explain how it works and how the results are being generated.
You certainly realize that many will be reluctant to make a deposit and play a game they can't verify the fairness of its results especially if it's being provided by a new casino.

As it is not completely KYC free. So I don't think it is logical to mention No KYC here.  Because here maybe no Kyc will be asked to sign up and deposit.  But when someone wins huge amounts and goes to withdraw them, of course this site will ask the user for KYC, which many other casino sites do. So how is this a KYC free casino?

For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed

You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service (https://euphoriabet.io/terms) - (archived (https://archive.ph/wip/KyJmZ)) and Privacy policy (https://euphoriabet.io/privacy) - (archived (https://archive.ph/y5sfm))
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Before using the bonus, you can check the rules posted on the main page of the site, where did you see that the bonus dont need  wager?

How can it be a non KYC site where they can ask for KYC from their users anytime?  It frustrates me because I think it's a completely disrespectful speech.  So it will make this casino run for criticism.  And I think no conscious gambler will be interested in gambling here when they understand the difference between KYC and NO KYC.

we no have license

Even if they are not licensed, they still need to take some procautions to protect their business. Imagine if some players create multi accounts to abuse one of their bonuses. How can they prove all those accounts belong to the same person if they can't force him to verify his identity?
For the moment the only thing they did wrong is their claim on the announcement thread which contradicts what's stated in their ToS. They need to fix this but I won't go as far as accusing them of planning to scam just because of it.

As a new casino site they should always have good performance and avoid some small mistakes.  As they did in the headline of this thread, they said that their site does not require KYC, but when a user sees that there they can ask for KYC at any time, they will misunderstand them and recognize them as frauds and lose trust in them.  They should stay away as they are a new site and they will act as a minus point to promote their site

Well that is a very important piece of advice, because there are players who are fascinated by their privacy and anonymity, in fact they are very demanding with it, and there are some who do not care which platform to enter in order to ensure their non-identity, and if they feel cheated, it is something that should not be done, the description is unique and I think that the worst thing is that someone suffers from disappointment in a gaming site, because he never comes back, and apart from that he tells his friends to stay away from that site already that it is not recommended, due to deceit, and for promising something that they cannot fulfill, that is something that they have to take into account.

Hello i can not login on euphoriabet.io from few days back, they are not responding to emails and chat assasults, stay aalert...

Hello i can not login on euphoriabet.io from few days back, they are not responding to emails and chat assasults, stay aalert...

Sorry, we have some troubles, with our support services. You was responded with some delay. It was fixed at this moment.

Good to hear that.

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Although this is just a small nuisance that I noticed when I open your website, the misspelling of "Payments".

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I'm not the best as far as spelling goes as well, but there could be players that will notice it and somewhat it might reflect on you as well.

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i withdraw money 9th of february 20:24 (#1046) withdrawal is still pending and none answer to mail i sent. You said withdrawal are fast but still didnt get mine or and update regarding it

my username is torovic

please check and process my withdrawal

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We answered to your mail. Your account was under review by the provider due to abnormal bets, so the response time is so long


No you didnt answer to my mail, and now i have serious doubt you are scammer bookie.

what abnormal betting? i made 3 deposit (140, 120, 100) so 360 total deposit and want to withdraw my balance 523 usdt, so only 160 usdt in plus is balance and you checking me about abnormal betting.

Please withdraw my balance or i will be forced to open thread in Scam Accusations, because now this most like look like SCAM bookie, if they make trouble for paying 160 usdt of proofite.

Plus neither of my bets werent bigger than 150 usdt

I believe you know this is a scam accusation and I would advise you create a thread for this on the scam accusations board here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0. as it is, you claim you are being scammed of your funds but here you have no evidence to back up your claims. It is or might be assumed you are not serious about your claims not until there is evidence to back up your claims because nobody would take your complaint seriously  otherwise you will be seen as a paid stunt to discredit the name and reputation of the casino which in the real sense seems right because you have nothing to hold unto as evidence that your were being scammed by the casino which you claimed you deposited the funds with.  So I would advise you to do the needful by creating a thread as link  seen above, make your complaints with your proof.

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i withdraw money 9th of february 20:24 (#1046) withdrawal is still pending and none answer to mail i sent. You said withdrawal are fast but still didnt get mine or and update regarding it

my username is torovic

please check and process my withdrawal

I post in scam.accusation thread so please resonse

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439598.0

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Nice manner, act like nothing happen, spam so next in line dont see that you are scammer bookie

none of the honest players on our site have any problems, rather you are a scammer player who breaks the rules and then pretends not to understand why his account was banned

It would be great if you keep everything transparent. Can you show us how did the player cheated at your site? Or atleast list the terms and conditions that the player has violated. It’s really hard to judge who is right and who is wrong from these plain text and conversations. Please if possible provide some visual proofs like screenshots or video, through which we can make a conclusion.

He cant do that because i didnt cheat, they simply dont pay winnings, what kind of cheater earn 160$ and only after 3rd deposit, and what kind of bookie return just 100 out of 360 deposit.
Answer SCAMMER BOOKIE

He cant do that because i didnt cheat, they simply dont pay winnings, what kind of cheater earn 160$ and only after 3rd deposit, and what kind of bookie return just 100 out of 360 deposit.
Answer SCAMMER BOOKIE

I'm also concerned and still haven't finished thinking there are still cases of fraud like what happened to you.
Maybe you have definitely experienced disappointment because of the total amount of money you deposited, you can only take none of it 50%.
But why did you trust them so much in the past that you dared to make a deposit with this sizable amount? You should be more careful every time you want to try to play and make a deposit with a slightly larger amount.
Hopefully this can be used as a lesson for you or all of us so that in the future there will be no more cases like this.

I'm also concerned and still haven't finished thinking there are still cases of fraud like what happened to you.
Maybe you have definitely experienced disappointment because of the total amount of money you deposited, you can only take none of it 50%.
But why did you trust them so much in the past that you dared to make a deposit with this sizable amount? You should be more careful every time you want to try to play and make a deposit with a slightly larger amount.
Hopefully this can be used as a lesson for you or all of us so that in the future there will be no more cases like this.

i agree with @Nrcewker statement

at least for @torkens and @euphoriabet provide some evidence that we can see together here so we know who is wrong and who is right as @Nrcewker said.
we are in the gambling section and anyone can accuse each other of fraud but if the accusations are without proof we cannot trust anyone here.


I hope you will read before making a statement like the one you wrote.
you make that statement as if you believe in one side only. although this case is like mutual accusations, both of them did not provide any evidence. so as @Nrcewker said we will not know who is right who is wrong because both of them do not provide real evidence.


so maybe you need to understand the case a little more before writing a reply

Of course, frauds are going to happen from time to time. You can't expect that those fraudsters will stop because this is the business that they love the most. They are too lazy to grind on a legit job but all what they want is easy money. All we can do to avoid them is to always read feed backs before we join a casino. It doesn't matter if it's a new or an old one. He trust the site before because his withdrawals went smoothly but he got only screwed on his 3rd withdrawal.

I think if we are on his situation, we will hardly suspect the site. This is one of the hardest part so it's better to stick only on our limits and put your 100% trust on any online platforms that you use.

Guys dont doubt i am talking true.

I explain it all here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439598.new#new

In acussation thread,

I deposited 3 times and when i won some and wanted to check do they alow withdrawal then problems started.
Not before while i am loosing or even when winning they didnt void any of bets, his abnormal bet explanation come 5 days after withdrawal when i ask here why my withdrawal.isnt processed.

I think guys with your experience should be all clear who is scammer in this case

So basically, if you make good bets and win money, stay out of Euphoriabet because they will accuse you of arbitrage betting and steal your money!

Is it fair to call it theft of funds? I'm in no way defending them, but users get their deposits back. But thank you for describing your experience, I think it can help many users who are in search of a bookmaker platform.

I guess it's better than nothing you're right. However, wrongfully claiming a user is breaking the rules and taking away their legitimate winnings because of that is not something any reputable casino will do.

At the end of the day, they are unlicensed so they don't really have to abide by any rules sadly. It is also my word against theirs so it's hard to prove my innocence, but if needed I could go through bet by bet in my betting history and prove why it's not an arb because every single bookmaker had around the exact same odds at the time of the bet.

That is why it is important for us to always be careful and choose a trusted casino when we want to play or bet.
The license also needs to be considered in choosing a casino because in a casino that doesn't have a license we can have problems when we get big wins like you said but before that there were still many gamblers who chose to play at casinos that didn't have a license because they didn't like KYC and it was flat most casinos that don't have KYC are casinos without a clear license.
If the problem that happened to you hasn't really been resolved, I'm sorry and this can be a lesson for you so that in the future you will be wiser in choosing a casino, don't let something like this happen again to you or other gamblers out there.

Hello

I just want to advice you not to bet in this shitty place. I won some bets and then they have blocked my access to my account and confiscated my funds.

When I asked them for the reason, they alleged "arbing behaviuor". This is just an excuse because I have never done such things. I just placed some bets on top Table Tennis leagues, football and rarely Tennis.

Now, the refuse to give me my money back for no reason.

THEY ARE JUST SCAMMERS AND THIEVES

there is also other account above claiming the same issue? @torkens in which also have banned because of being accused of cheating but sadly not coming back here to update what had happened to His problem .

but about finding a legit and trustworthy site? it is our obligation to get one because this is our money and scammers will find way to attract us to play and deposit, I am not calling this site as scam but at least best to address those issue properly with proofs than just going against the accusation with words