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I always consider gaming as gambling I have seen many gamblers spend a lot of money for their character and to level up their account for future profit, like selling their stuff and their character.

If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?

Which game he would transition to online games though, that is the question, if the individual is like looking for slot games or anything that doesn't need any skills at all so it will be very smooth transition.

And as you have said, the elements might be also present in both world, competition and the end result of it all - win and rewards.

With that said, might be easier shift in terms of mindset, game rules and motivation.

In this way, gamers are very different from gamblers. Gambling is also beyond just gaming, it can extend to real life sport events. If not gone beyond interactive games like video games and skilled card games, not playing with money makes it very different. But being a gamer makes casino games very easy if such a person want to start gambling on casino sites, but he has to learn the rules of gambling because being an expert in gaming does not mean the person is an expert in gambling. Nobody is an expect if compared to the sites that are providing the gambling services.

It's easy, you don't have to start all over it. Being a gamer, you understand logic already that you can see in the casinos, so, don't stop yourself if you want to try to gamble, just do it.
There's no difference of motivation and mindset from being a gamer and a gambler, all you have to think is the same and that's to become stronger and for you to win, none other than that.

It's an easy transition compared to a first-timer in casinos, I once read a thread here about a newbie finding the best strategy of doubling up in a dice game or a martingale strategy, only to find out that martingale is a big trap as the house edge always makes them win, gamers already have ideas on what to expect from casinos, they know the basic applies here but that does not mean that a good gamer will become a lucky gambler, the factor of winning is very much different in gambling then in gaming.

I am not a full-time gamer but I have a lot of friends who are full fledge gamers and they have an easy transition from being a gamer to gamblers, from creating an account to managing their dashboards, if ever they encounter issues and problems they just check Youtube and reviews to check, just like what they do while they are on their gaming dashboard, the motivation, and mindset they told me are all the same, the level of excitement is also the same, you are paid to be entertained on both sites.

Hmm, I think it's easy in terms of games? Most famous games right now are rather puzzle-oriented story games and action, fast-paced games so I don't think they'd have a hard time playing casino games. Heck, they might even bore themselves to death at some point if they don't really enjoy gambling that much. Imo what differentiates a gambler from a gamer is that gaming directly gives you that enjoyment experience through games, while gambling is enjoying the game together with the thrill of winning more money (mostly the latter though tbf).

Gambling machines have basically a similar design than games. You want to keep the person entertained there as much as possible, and also you want the person to come back again, so you get some addiction design thrown in.

Similar things that work in game design work in gambling apps, so that's why they might seem like the same thing, or very closely related. The main difference is that at least in gaming you go back to it by trying to have fun(although lately this has changed a bit with companies trying to up-sell everything in games), whereas in gambling you go back to try to win money(or recover what you've already lost).

I believe that both are similar in many ways, but they are things that need to be very well divided.
gambling is made to lose money playing, a game was made to invest money in order to evolve your items/characters to get more advantage and not more money or profit.
As much as many players have as their main objective to evolve to sell cheaper, I believe that this is not the essence of this type of game and should never be confused with gambling.

I don't think it would be an easy transition. A gamer is not a gambler. A gamer plays games. He doesn't play with his hard-earned money. A gamer in your description is playing hard in order to make money. And there's not a high risk with it. He just needs to level up and once reaching a certain level, he could just sell his account with a profit. That's for as long as there are buyers. That's not what's gambling in casino is all about. Gambling right from the start means risking your money. There's no guarantee whatsoever that there will be profit in the end. Most likely, there will instead be losses.

For me it's just the same, if you play games and you have the competitiveness in you then when you play or gamble, you will almost wanted to win. Of course, the difference is that most probably gamers doesn't involved money, there are are also a lot games right now that is being played online and there are bets if I'm not mistaken. So there is an easy transition, just a question whether what will they choose, stick to gaming or just go and play online games and go with big money.

Even in terms of this, it is far from the same. A gamer plays to win. A gambler plays to win. But a gamer plays with nothing else but his skills and whatever his account or character reached in the game. In casino gambling, a player normally has no control whatsoever as to how the game ends. A gamer could turn down a challenge if the opponent is of a very high level and the match isn't fair. In gambling, the match will always be unfair because the house will always have the advantage or the upper hand. The house is always at an advantageous position to win. That's not the case in gaming.

Gamers also are exposed to gambling as they also watch esports.

Gamers are risk takers too just like Gamblers. It's not very unusual to see gamers turn to gamblers, especially with the influence of new technology and peers. It's just like Basketball stars who become a gambler in the casino, I'm sure the basketball players are also betting within the team.

Do you also know that you can't be a gambler without being a gamer?
Yes!
This is very possible, all gamblers are gamers and it's from gaming the interest and love to gamble begins to arose from by which he or she is constantly winning in every game and in any predictions he made between players. Although most people must not be a gamer to have interest in gambling, naturally some persons love gambling where they could do it for fun and also make new friends around.

So it's to gaming, most people do go to play station to compete with their fellow gamers to know if they are improving or not at that point the gamblers might used such opportunities to place a bet among the two gamer which they might not know some people over there have already placed a bet upon their gaming.

I think it must be different because the motivation and mindset of a person must also be different.
Gamers who are used to playing games and start trying to play gambling in casinos may find it strange because there is a money factor at stake in the gambling game.
And it will be different from what they are used to but if those gamers play Esports, it might not take long to get used to it.
But someone who plays games and plays gambling can become addicted because both can make someone addicted to playing them.

I am not so sure about this one, in my opinion gambling is different from most times of gaming. It depends on which kind of games you play and enjoy. Let's say you enjoy sport games like Fifa or NBA, there is no character or items progression than you could use to sell in the future and make a profit. Same goes for non main stream shooters. The real value is in big games like Dota, CSGO, etc. with millions of active players. I also think that most of the gamers are not looking for ways to make profits out of gaming and don't want to sell their accounts. If you spend a long time grinding and leveling your account up it becomes personal and in terms of profit it mostly not worth it compared to the hundreds of hours you put into the account. Most games need you to have good reflexes, they are not about evaluating risks like in gambling and have a good stomach to endure big down swings.

IMO, i don't think there's much profit in selling stuff and including your character after a long time of grinding in an online game. I myself was an MMORPG gamer. I spend like $200 every month just to sustain whatever needs necessary to level up my character. The internet and electricity consumption and expenses is not included of course. After many months I decided to sell my character and you know how much it cost? Just around $500-$600.
Most stuff in an online game you sold for money might never be enough to cover your monthly expenses.
Expensive stuff usually requires expensive premium items to boost your character.
Therefore, I cannot consider gaming as gambling.
In gambling your only asset is your money, once it's gone you'll never take them back and make money out if it again.
Also, gambling and gaming as it's own level of excitement and enjoyment when you're playing.

Regular gamers like anyone is doing it for fun can be exposed to gambling as well because both are similar in many aspects but I am not convinced that their gaming urge can be satisfied with traditional casino games like dice, slots, roulette,etc since its cery simple and people attracted towards this games are more looking to try their luck and get the results whereas gamers keep themselves into the games like more intensive real world like experience, levelling up,etc so it really depends on every individual and what is their purpose of playing.

I don't agree that gaming and gambling are similar. Gaming may have some gambling-like situations but eventually its nearly completely about problem solving. Gambling on other other hand is more like you already has multiple answers to a problem but you are trying to pick best one to reach best outcome. Gamers can indeed turn into gamblers but it takes bit of different type of skills to develop.

I think not necessarily as I am still a gamer and I was a gamer since an young age,when I was 5 I was playing NES (Nintendo Entertainment System) games at that time which were popular then I transitioned to any other system until to PC game which I still play this days.However the fact that I am also a gambler does not come from the fact that I was and am a gamer,I like to gamble for entertainment purposes which can become even dangerous when we lose money and that is why I gamble in the first place.I never spent money on leveling up or building up my character,I preferred to do it for free although it would take longer,always for free,so based on my experience there is no real co relation between these.

Gaming and gambling are totally different concepts.

Gamers usually have always postivie expected returns because their only expense is their time. The more they play, the more wealthy they get but of course since everybody does the same thing the items/gold they collect in the game isn't worth much in terms of USD.

Gamblers on the other hand wager real money. They may get poorer at the end of the day. Because of the risk they take, the potential gains are far bigger.

The result in gambling is very much dependent on luck, and the result of playing online games is a waste of a huge amount of time on pumping your character and your gaming skills. Any gamer can easily switch to gambling, but not the fact that he will have the same success as in gaming, because they are completely different things. If a person can make money from online games, then I would suggest that he turn his attention to play-to-earn. This area is just beginning to develop and if you make the effort, you can make good money on it during the next bull cycle.

I definitely agree! I myself had a share of story about role-playing games when I'm a bit younger and it's not that profitable unlike what other people thinks. I can't also say if it's an easy transition if you're a gamer into being a gambler or vice versa, gaming and gambling is two different things, and it's incomparable in my perspective.

I think a lot of the same "Feel good" chemicals in the brain are released when you participate in both gaming and gambling. That is why so many people get addicted to "gaming" too...  ;)

Also, both of these activities are a form of entertainment... so the transition from being a "gamer" ..to being a "gambler" should be an easy shift. (There are a common misconception that only underage kids are playing games.... loads of adults are still huge gamers)  ;)

The transition from a gamer to a gambler is quite easy because you are already aware of the risks. They're the same in some aspects and differ when it comes to challenges.
Both are addictive but when abused, gambling can cause chaos and might ruin lives unlike gaming, you might purchase or spend money for characters but the risk of losing most of your assets is a bit lesser compared to gambling.
Both can be entertaining but gambling for me is broader than gaming because gambling has many types and compare to gaming, it can provide good profit and higher losses at the same time.

IMO, there are two versions in the world of gamers, there are lovers and only play for personal pleasure, even though it costs a lot of money to buy, items, skins, levels. there are also those who make the game a profession, to sell items, or other items that have a selling value.  however, gamers and gamblers are different.
both land-based casinos and online casinos, are purely gambling and luck. and this is what underlies the difference between gamers and gamblers, in my personal opinion there is no transition from gamers to gamblers.
you can play both if you want, and basically gamers and gambling games have the same definition, namely games that are entertaining and very fun.

It's an easy transition since you already have an idea given that both have their own similarities. I believe a gamer is like a gambler since you have this eagerness to win the game. The difference is if you're a gamer it's more on entertainment while in gambling you have this goal to win not only because you're enjoying the game but because there's a real money involved that you put at stake. Both can be addicted too thus it still depends how you control yourself.

Most of gamers don't mind about the business because they're enjoying about the games and some of them want to achieve higher rank to become a pro player. They may trying to gamble on online casino, but not all of them will enjoying gambling just like they enjoying to play games they liked. I think it's an easy transition from gamer to gambler considering most of gamers are introvert and spend most of their times on online.

When a gamer has gained a lot of experience in the gaming world, the gamer is very excited if he gets a casino game according to his former gaming experience. He may think that this is the easiest game for him. If he plays the game then he has a great chance of winning. On one hand he will get pleasure from playing the game and other there is a chance to win money. As a result, a gamer can easily convert to gambling.

If you are into competitive online gaming, say, MOBA—obviously not so much on MMORPGs—it's easier to transition since you already know tons on the teams that are usually playing the game and you already know the strategies, the meta, and all of that stuff. You'll base most of your predictions or bets on your knowledge on the team, the things that they usually do, and their opponents that I'm pretty sure you also know about. Gamers are somewhat fast to analyze things and can make judgments on the fly, hence it will be easier for them to start betting on the game that they play on but for other games/sports, it will take some time before they get the hang of it.

Today, gaming and gambling is already attached to each other.

As much as we can see, every fan of a sport knows how to gamble but not all of them. Anyone you ask about it, he/she knows that there's a certain gambling within that sport.

Traditional sports and esports are the most common this day. So, if you're doubting yourself if it's going to be a problem, you won't even have to itch yourself about it as long as you know the sport you're about to bet.

If someone is already a gamer before he enters the gambling world, I believe that it would be much easier for him because he already know the basics of gaming, and therefore he will easily understand the rules and regulations inside the casino or gambling website. The transition will be smoother because he has a knowledge already compared to those other people who don't really have a background to rely on.

Although gambling is different from gaming alone, but you have the grasp of what the gamblers are doing such as using techniques and strategies and of course, knowing that there will be other teams or group of opponents in which you can compete with, in gambling side, it's the house and the other bettors. Perhaps what they will take some time to familiarize are the jargons used by the gamblers, but it'll be easy to remember once they get used to it while learning and playing at the same time.

It will be an easy transition, but you should not expect to always win in gambling, because in gaming if you have the skill and the knowledge of the various level you have a chance to win, in gambling, especially in casinos everything depends on luck, even if you reach a level of experience in gambling, you will spend money on both but there's a chance of return on gambling more than in gaming, the excitement is both the same and you will not notice that fly fly away on both gaming and gambling as both are addictive.

I guess gaming and gambling are different things because some gamers don't spend a lot of money to buy certain characters and level up their accounts. Even if they buy a certain character, if the goal is to reach the top spot in that game, that's not gambling either.

But we know that gambling always uses money and the results will always be two, namely losing or winning. From here, I think the difference is clear; maybe those who play will feel that they are not gambling. But I don't know, but I don't think it's an easy transition if a gamer tries to gamble at an online casino.

I think those who develop a character in a game in order to later sell an account or this character (in other words, they are engaged in grinding) have nothing to do with gambling. I've done this sort of thing myself and it's business as usual - basically you spend time on a service and then you sell it.
Another thing is if we are talking about loot boxes and the like - this is very close to gambling, and if you open loot boxes, then you get a feeling of excitement. Perhaps this can be a transitional link to regular gambling.

If you examine both gaming and gambling, the words can often be used in reference to one another. Say we about to gamble for the winner of a bet via a game, I can say; Let us "game", instead of let us "gamble", which sounds very inappropriate for some.

It will be easy for someone already who is a gamer and normally can spend to level up their account to switch into real gambling, Casino gambling involve playing games, so it shouldn't seem like something too different.

Gamers already know how to deal with every aspect of gambling games. They already know the cons and pros of the possible moves that they will make in gambling since gamers can easily adapt the game rules but it comes to taking the risks, they could be quite different. Gamers don't need to risk money but rather time and effort only but in gambling, they need to have the capital and the courage to face the possibility of losing.

I do not consider this as gambling but as an investment. You are putting money in the hope that it will be more valuable in the future. For me, gambling is when you put money hoping that you will win the money of others.


There are maybe some traits of a gamer that can help him cope better in gambling but that does not mean that you can be a good gambler if you are a good gamer. For one, as a gamer, you are used to long hours sitting and playing. Gamblers do that also, especially if they gamble in card games or slots. But as a gamer, sometimes you can lose your cool and there is no real consequence but lose a game. But in gambling, if you lose your cool, you can be gambling your life away. You can be cleaned by the casino if you do not control your emotions.

I played several online games and was in "rich" clans where people spent several thousand dollars to level up a character/account. But I have never seen it make sense from a business point of view - roughly speaking, if you spent 10k dollars on an account, then you can only sell it for 1k. Such a loss is quite similar to the loss from gambling, but it is unlikely to attract anyone  ;D

If you're a gamer and you enjoy playing the game over and over again starting from scratch then selling your old accounts then thats fine because that is something you enjoy. There are also gamers who would freak out and have a mental breakdown over having to start from scratch because they enjoy their progress and do not wish to lose it. It really depends on the person in question. Same thing goes for gambling. If you are a gamer transitioning to gambling, you might find a lot of things similiar and enjoyable. But it could also be troublesome learning new concepts.

As someone who has gamed all his life since he was a little kid, to a grown man who still games every single time he can find some free time, I can tell you that it all depends on the game. Like we literally have fake casino games these days, obviously those would be alright and we would definitely find something common because we are just not doing it with fake money but real money that’s the only difference, but playing call of duty and then go play some gambling wouldn't be relevant at all.

So, it all depends the type of game that you could play and that will be actually a good result for sure, would definitely help everyone gamble better if they can find a relevant game.

I think im a gamer before because I spend most of time playing a video game but that didn't lead me easily to try and completely switch from gambling so my answer would be no. Two of them are in a different category even though most of the games today are gacha type and has an in game purchase included although both can possibly provide an entertainment.

For the hardcore gamers the graphics of the video games and it's gameplay are more richer than on the gambling games but the only advantage of gambling is that if you get lucky you can win money on them easily which cant be experienced by working on a regular job.

Just common sense, it would really be a different thing when you do make out such transition because dealing up with online games literally to a game or gambling ones then you would really be seeing the difference
but somehow when you are already a gamer then you would really be finding yourself to be able to easily adapt in between transitions.Although when it comes to risk taking and the fast pacing spending of money
would be entirely be different and you would be surely noticing it when you do step your foot into another venture.The only advantage when you do make out some transfer is that you
do know on how to make yourself be that knowledgeable on online transactions and how gaming works easily.

And the thing when they try to gamble is that there are no new concept to learn, you just put your money and play and play and that's is. And maybe the gamer will enjoy it better that just the old concept of building your character in the game you play and try to make a progress overtime. Gambling is different although it could be as a addicted as a let's say rpg. But in the end, if their mindset is to compete then they could easily move without any problems in gambling.

It depends on the style of gaming that you like because OP says something about leveling your account. This is typical for RPG games and MOBAs. I used to play a lot and in hundreds of titles that I've tried you had no leveling at all and no gambling features. For instance, I played shooters a lot like battlefield, old  CS and such, and you had no gambling in there and there was nothing that you were playing for but pure pleasure.

In gambling you put things at stake, you can gain or lose. In gaming you can relax and all the achievement that you're getting is a scoreboard at the end of a match.

But to play videogames is different from gambling. When you play videogames you face challenges, overcome them, improve your skills and in the end you are rewarded by your effort and time spent. Moreover, you can fail several times on the videogame, but you won't lose money for that and you can always try again for free until you reach your goals.

Although both are games' categories, they are totally different from each other.

Gamers and Gamblers exist in two separate cloud. Even their elements has no resemblance whatsoever. Transitioning from gaming to casino gambling is very rare but from casino gambling to gaming i think that will be possible. Gamers spending so much money improving their character is not really gambling in my own definition, I think they are only improving their elements even when they sell out those characters i still don't see it as gambling its pure business

It is possible that someone can be a gamer and never get involved in gambling but the tendency of becoming a gambler as a gamer is very high. Most games give non-monetary benefits that motivate the players to play better or more which is very similar to gamble's monetary reward. Gaming helps people to develop gambling skills such as attention to detail and spending hours online.

You might not need to start all over again to learn about gambling if you are a gamer. Just recently my sister-in-law was surprised to discover that her eldest son who is just 15 is stealing her money for gambling. Everyone knows my nephew is an addicted gamer but we never knew he has started gambling. Nobody in their home has ever gambled, hence they were very sure that he learned it from playing games. The difference between gaming and gambling is very thin and sometimes insignificant.

In my opinion is not easy, because I have a friend who always plays an android game called Domino which has a list slot in game selection, so when I invite him to play a real slot on a gambling site, he always lost and stiff, he said different with he used to play that make lost his money, and continue play.

The difference is from the thoughts of, the gamers they will not consider gaming is like a gambling and I think they will think gambling is bad habits while gaming is not even though both activity spend money.
The difference in my opinion is that gamers make money from streaming while gambling makes money based on the winnings that they get even though they can also earn from streaming but usually that is not the initial goal.
The transition will not be difficult because the terms are almost the same there is to play the games

Yes, it is true that both are almost the same, and there is no need to start from scratch again because almost everything in the game is also in online gambling.
we are motivated to win and enjoy the game we are working on, which is different if you lose you lose money in online gambling.

not all Online games are are gambler and not all Online games can bring you profit , though you can gamble in Dueling or related stuffs inside , Have played multiple games in the past but I never made any profit but of course the fun and friendship  I gather inside for years.
wrong , In gambling you will Bet then play in Gaming you need to Level up , to understand the game deeply and to  gather armors and weapons first before become competitive .

In my opinion if it's quite different with the game. In the game you can grinding to leveling up your level easily while in gamble you must wager some amounts that will increase level from your account. Both were different but im sure if that's a bit similar like you are doing play to win in gaming. Gambling is about accumulation from your bet and that will determine level for your account. Both are different things and you must know this.
You can't compare playing or leveling in the game with playing in the gambling. It's about how much you have been wagered

I don't like combining gambling with gaming.
Something you enjoy at daily grinding is different from something you do daily where your money is put at risk.

Gambling is not hard and the instructions for learning it are way easy. It's the money that you will have to be wise with.
Unlike in gaming, you have to learn the strategies to progress into the game especially when you are playing MMORPG. Then, you will need the help of other players to make it come true.

I can relate on this , specially when I start playing NFT games last year because there are similarities in gambling and game way and this is to invest or use Money to earn , though the time frame is longer than gambling yet same way to lose or win.

But this is how we wanted to divert , from our gaming habits turning to gambling activities .

This. The main core of most popular games nowadays, whether they have amazing or simple graphics is their complexity. They're games filled with puzzles, strategies, basically, stuff that make you progress by relying on your thinking, Casino games are much simpler than those, and they're mostly reliant on luck. I'd consider games close to being complex would be card games like poker, blackjack, but they're rather simple after you learn the rules, unlike other games that are ever evolving most of the time.

When you open loot boxes in CS or any game in which the gameplay is related to your skills and skill level, how does this negate the fact that the very opening of a loot box is gambling? If we are talking about the game and account development, then it is obvious that this is not gambling, but an ordinary game where someone plays well, and someone plays badly. But if we evaluate such things as loot boxes separately, then this is very close to gambling.

I think some of the gamers who opens loots boxes encountered a gambling website that offers loot boxes and you can turn them into cash. Its also easy for gamers to transition into a gambler because most of the crypto gambling websites, doesn't require KYC they can easily register with just an e-mail.

Probably if you ask in the chatroom, I reckon that most of the people in there do play games.

I don't agree with you. Online gaming and gambling are completely different things. In online games you can play for free, not spending money on skins, weapons, and pumping up your character, and long and hard free to pump up your character. At the same time, enjoy the process and the achievements. Gambling requires you to have money. If you are gambling with fake money, the excitement is lost. So I think there is a huge difference between these games.

I don't think so, gamers are those who have an aspect just to pass the time just for fun. maybe they will not be addicted to gambling because the aspects in the games they play are no more than mere entertainment and if they buy some items, they may have more money because in any game to reach a high level, it can be solved as long as they play consistently. it is impossible for gamers to fall into gambling pits if it is not an invitation from their closest friends. I think these two items will not cause an interest in gamers to gamble and vice versa.

I find it hard to gamble in real casinos, as I am scared of being embarrassed (by doing something wrong or not understanding what people want from me) or from doing something stupid. While gambling online, I can always pause or read help. While in casino, playing slots for example, I am shy to ask "I've got 3 apples, and a worm, what should I hit next, everything is flashing and distracts me".

I remember when I was younger and played blackjack. A friend of my or dealer offered me to split. While playing online, I have only use hit and stand. Split? Yes split. No. I was so embarrassed that moment, because I did not understand what dealer wants, and I wasnt sure that "no" will be a proper answer (like answering no to a "whiskey in rocks or snifter glass")

I remember that feeling, my first few times in a physical casino I waa afraid to make mistakes and people would laugh. That is why I only played roulette, betting on red or black. Nothing can go wrong there. My friends were a bit more experienced and they also played other games. It took me a while to get used to the whole casino atmosphere. The good thing about casinos is that people are usually very friendly and you can ask questions, also you are not required to gamble constantly. You can spend a whole night without betting at all and only observe other gamblers. A good friend of mine who doesn't like gambling still goes to the casinos with us, only to enjoy the drinks and place one bet every time right before we leave. In the end we put most of the pressure on ourselves and the other gamblers are so busy with their own game that they won't even notice us.

Casino games are deliberately designed to be simple to make the game easier but maximize the betting features that are specifically for gambling. In contrast to games that are specifically for games with detailed and more specific graphics. But now the graphics of casino games are also getting better and not inferior to games in general. for the level of complexity of course has been adjusted. Many casino games that can be played and will not be bored with a large selection of game categories.

There are hundreds of types of games circulating on the internet today such as: Dollar-Producing Games, Play Play Games, Hago Games, Mobile Premier League and many others, generally online games are detected in the form of gambling, while you can access smartphones and laptops that are connected via the internet.

Talk about Transition or language is easier to understand i.e. transition or game moving place to casino, so, what kind of game do you mean easy to Transition to casino.

Whether you've ever played Zynga Plus Poker or Zynga Plus Casino games, both games have now switched from developers and positioned themselves as online bookies, their goal is to make fiat money in poker, to be honest I didn't find the point of the question, I hope my answer can slightly answer what you are asking.

Yes and sometimes in gaming it will give more thrill if you will have some betting who will in a match, it will be fun and really challenging to compete not because you need to win among your friends but more likely you will earn more by winning it. Most people who are born to be a gamer or a gamer by time tend to be a gambler because they are competitive and maybe the find gambling a good way to practice their minds.

It really depends on that person if he enjoy the games that are offered on gambling casinos. I'm a gamer myself and I don't find gambling to be enjoyable the same as when I'm playing computer games. There maybe some elements that can be seen as gambling when playing those computer games but spending money on those are very optional. You can still get those powerups just by actively playing unlike in gambling where you don't get the satisfaction of it if you don't spend money.

Gaming and gambling are actually two different concepts, of which thou they could have similarities but they can't be the same, as people who play game do that for fun or for entertainment, while gambling involves money or staking something of value at a risk of gaining on the outcome of a game. So by that it means gaming is the origin or bedrock of which gambling activities exiast, because without games, there will be no gambling, because for you to gamble one need to have good knowledge of a particular game. Which means that a good gamer might equally be a good gambler

they are two different things. You spend a lot of your time and money playing games. what are your hopes? accounts, abilities, or attributes that you could sell in the future?
Gambling will be riskier, because you are risking your money, and it can disappear. unlike the assets in your game. Playing at the casino is more tiring than playing your online games.

if you are a gamer and want to play at the casino. I think you should learn about online casinos first. especially for the rules of each different casino.

Most casino games are easy to play so even if you're not a gamer the transition should still be quick enough. When it comes to one's motivation and mindset it's probably best to start over again instead of carrying over that gaming mindset because I also agree with the other replies as they're not the same as most online games rely on improving your skills and that might work on a few casino games but there's a limit knowing most casino games rely on luck.

Easy or not will always be depending on ourselves, if you dont like gambling at all then it will be hard for you to be gambler even if you spend a lot of money as a gamer.
I'm not a gamer so I do not really understand the motivation of gamer and I also believe there are some different motivation among gamers.
Friend of mine like to buy low level gaming account, he played with it until leveling up then sell it.
I do not see it as a "gambling" in general, but it is like an investment by maximizing gaming skills to make profit.

It will lessen the stress and struggle to learning gambling if you're a gamer, playing games could help your gambling lifestyle in a lot of ways but we must not forget that they are two different things, if you do play games, it helps you havea good understanding of how those games are in reality and the techniques you can adopt in playing them on games, gambling is the reality of games being played, here you face the actual play that has to involve your money, most of the gamers are also good in gambling because some play station do have gambling point also for those interested, if you are the types that plays game alot then gambling will not be a difficult task to you because by then you might have developed a thicker skin having sone funds with you that you can use to gamble, but honestly nowadays it's the highschool students that often play games unlike matured adults who have the money to gamble, but at one point or the other, we all started from gaming and end up being a gambler.

Unfortunately this would be a very bad combination and a recipe for disaster, as gamers will try to see a pattern in everything they do and unfortunately casino games are far from patterns though in some instances this could play out in your favor and should be regarded as luck! If this transition is going to work, the gaming mentality has to remain behind and gamble in peace :)

Gamer can become more greedy when they start to gamble since as a gamer you already have the attitude to keep on going and spending with items before might be one of the reason for you to continuously playing. The games might be different but I’m sure gamer can easily adopt the system of gambling, the only problem is controlling your emotion which is normal to experience some problem with this if you are just a new gambler. 

When you are a gamer then you do really have that kind of behavior which you would really be aiming for being a winner or thriving out to be the best.When you do make a switch from gaming to gambling then it is

likely that you would really be making use of those behavior which i could say that it wont really be a good thing if you do tolerate it.Gambling is a game of chance and pure luck.
If you do have that kind of mindset and impression then it would really be just ending up on a disaster unless if you are that extremely lucky.

You could really make out easy transition and easy to understand which is related to game since you do have the idea on what it is at least but
not on 100% but adapting is easy.

Not every games have got the elements to turn a gamer to a gambler. Games like Rummy, which is popular in specific countries have got the elements of making a gamer to try it with money. In my country we've got a big number of Rummy game providers and applications that supports player2player gaming access. Initially playing for fun makes them give a try and ends up losing/winning.

I would say that a transition from gamer to gambler is not hard since games are a bit similar to gambling which you spend money for a chance to win cool skins, items or whatever it is that you will buy for your character. Some may say that a gamer may be much greedy than gambler but I don't think that's entirely correct. I am a gamer and also a gambler but I didn't spend too much money just for gambling and the amount I would spend didn't even reach $500 even $400.

When it comes to technicality, I believe gamers can easily understand gambling by just reading the instructions and beside gambling games is not that hard compare to what they are playing already. If you are a gamer you only need to focus with your motivation and mindset since gambling is a whole different environment and it involves a lot of money which can be a problem later on if you gamble carelessly. I know some gamer that are doing good with gambling right now, it make a lot of practice and analysis before you can be good in gambling though.

I rather consider the opposite, gambling as part of gaming industry.  Since no one can be involved in gambling if it doesn't involved gaming, besides gambling is already defined as a game of chance.  ;D


It always feels good to satisfy our curiosity.  So basically, gamers who is curious about gambling can easily transition to a gambling habit.  Besides most of the games have these so-called Loot boxes or Gacha which resemble gambling activity.  so it isn't a piece of news for them if they wanted to transition to gambling games.  Gamers don't have to start all over again because gamers are already used to gaming and risks.

I'm a heavy gamer and also a gambler at the same time. I don't think that "transition " is the right word since gaming and gambling have a different environments even at the bottom line, we are spending money on those.

You don't need to have any movitation to do gambling coming from being a gamer. It depends on our interest.

Don't make that too technical.

In gaming, people got obligated because they want to have more improved items in the game and have cool skins and sets some of the games have perks to have and at the end of the day they can sell it again, but in terms of gambling it is all or nothing risk there's no possible return might happen instead just have the 50/50 chance that you will win the game or bet you make or lose all the assets you invested in just to play that's why it is good to make a gambling management and set an amount and strategy when playing.

I think it is definitely easier for a gamer to succumb to gambling due to the nature of gaming itself.

Nowadays, tons of online games have introduced different payment schemes for the gaming company. Some games have "loot boxes" where you get the chance of a specific and overpowered item at a given rate. With this in mind, a gamer would most likely spend money getting that >1% item drop with cash cash as the main currency for it. With this in mind, gamers are technically gambling but behind a smokescreen of gaming.

That is why, I definitely believe that a gamer has all the chances of becoming a gambler.

Yeah. Gambling is more on money satisfaction while gaming is just for pure entertainment and enjoyment by spending money on it without any expectations for a possible profit. This is the thin line separating gaming to gambling since this activity has different goal and each players of this activity has different intention when they play both gaming and gambling.

I’m both gamer and gambler. I spend a lot on my character account to show it off to my friends which satisfied me while I’m only gambling because I want to have another source of fun by increasing my money on risking it on gambling games.

Yes, it’s quite easier for a gamer to turn into a gambler as the skills are already there and developed. Unlike those who decide to be a gambler without even expertise on different games, that would be more risky for sure. However, once a gamer becomes a gambler, then he should learn to manage more of his funds and only gamble  the amount that is allocated for gambling and not for other means. That way, losses will always be controlled and would not resort into gambling addiction.

It also depends much on the kind of games and genre the person plays the most. These last years the retro and arcade genre has increased significantly in popularity, I am talking about games and platforms which do not the require the player to invest anything beyond the purchase of the game itself and the console.

In this matter, Nintendo has a wide playerbase many exclusive games which do not have microtransactions implemented on the most of these.

This translates that not all gamers will be so easily introduced to gambling, those more used to Call of Duty, MMORPGs, Gacha, Counter Strike, etc would.

Real gamers will please themself by just playing games without thinking if they will earn money or not. But those who wanted to earn some money will absolutely do gambling, not to say it was hard for the transitions but of course, it takes time as well for some adjustment knowing that gambling is a different environment than just playing games where there is no money involved in normal games that mostly played as you have mentioned.

Exactly, Gamer games are not the same as what you play on casino games or gambling games. Most or All of the games played on a casino are luck-based games such as Dice and Slot Games unlike what we mostly play as a Gamer which requires logic, strategy and accumulation of stats to get better.

There's no need to compare normal games to what those on the casino as those are entirely different.

While it is true many games today have aspects which are very close to what we call gambling I do not see how anyone will have any problem making a transition to gambling games, gambling games are very simple and you can learn the rules in a matter of minutes and the optimal way to play in a few days at most, also most games while they have some slight variations they are so small that most people never put any attention to them, so if you are a gamer and you want to try to gamble then I do not see how you could have any problems adapting yourself to it.

I think its more on additional mindsets, like the hardest thing here is chasing your losses which is very tempting to do when you win a huge amount and then suddenly you've lost it, especially for new players, other elements are just the same like getting or creating an account, not resorting to cheating and understanding the games by just looking at it as some games on casinos are already on gaming, compared to gaming the risk is double and you are under very strict rules, so gamers should be aware of the rules of casinos because there's a lot of difference in their terms.

They have different mentalities but similarities can be found if you look closer. Gamblers gamble for profit while having fun but gamers just try their best to enjoy the game process to get rewarded with higher achievements on level-up. Finding the differences is easy, addicted gamblers are dangerous but I can't say the same thing for addicted gamers who spend their time mostly playing the same game for hours. Gambler leaves the table when he runs out of money/bankroll but they come back to chase losses, gamers can restart the game whenever they want.

In my opinion, it will be very easy in fact too easy to transition. This is because the mechanism of incentivization. In addition, there's a thin line between gaming and gambling. For example, gaming is addicting just like gambling because in most games, you are rewarded for your victories with items that can be traded for real money, but in order to increase your chances, you buy in-game items. Isn't this almost the same elements in gambling?

Here when the gamers keep on achieving, at some point they feel of why don't we try playing with money. Here some turns successful and the rest losses. This happens with most gamers, because they've enjoyed the achievement and beyond that what they can do is to spend and look for a win out of their ability.

when we play and we have money in the game, we take all the money that is in the game to put it on our favorite character, but we do that because that is money that doesn't come out of the game, that's why it doesn't hurt to spend all of it on the character, if that was money that comes out of the game and allows you to spend it in the real world then people wouldn't spend much on the character


normal games and gambling are very different, in gambling people lose money, in gambling people who spend the whole day playing games, so that person is so poor that he sells everything he has, while normal games person can even spend the whole day playing without problems, by which I mean that in gambling the person must have another mentality

Which gamers do you refer to? Online gamers?
Of course, it will be easy for online gamers to adapt to casino/gambling games because those are online games as well.
But if we consider the motivation or mindset of gambling games, it is a bit different. A gamer cannot think to play casino/gambling games as often as possible because it requires money. It is not the same as free online games, we should have good time management and money management for casino/gambling games.

A gamer usually has a good idea about gaming. If he continues the process of online gaming then ‍at any of the moment he may be transmitted to gambling. Because game and gambling are two clauses word. In a sense, the word gambling originates from games. It is true that if the gamer makes a positive impression on gambling then it will be transmitted to gambling in the future. Because now gambling is very easy in everywhere.

It's almost the same but the thing that makes it different is once you have owned your item and it can be sold again for money while when you are doing gambling and you are taking the risk like you win or lose, that means you will be doubling your item or lose your item. This makes gambling a bit different compared when you are playing the game. The game item can be traded between the players. that's why the risky in gaming is far smaller compared with gambling.
I think that this is the main concern but any gamer can easily go to the gambling. The only problem is if when they were new players and they have zero knowledge about anything.

I don't know about loot boxes in CS but in MMO it depends on the rarity of the box and how much your luck is to gain the best drop you can get.
Then, the system will provide what will be the content of the loot box.
It's not a gamble, it's success base and luck base.
I'd rather compare gacha games where you pull items from wishes where it's mostly paid to be a gamble than the former.
In MMO, you didn't really pay, you are grinding which means even a free to play gamer can receive the same.

I don't know about you but gaming(as in playing online games, etc...) and gambling are two different things. while there is some element of gambling in video games/online games like loot boxes or something similar to it, I don't think you can really compare it to gambling in the casinos. anyway, as for gamers transitioning to gambling, this will differ from person to person.

Agree. Gaming and gambling are very different; even though they involve money, they are still different. Playing games uses the money to buy something that may be useful for users in playing. While gambling games use money to bet and win or lose money. I guess if those people weren't curious about gaming or gambling, they wouldn't have turned to anything else. Curiosity is something that makes people move on and try new things.

Also it is worth keeping in mind that while people play games that do not involve gambling or transactions of any sort, they are not aware whether they have a natural fixation to gambling/thrill seeking. An initial transition is necessary before they getting more involved and gamble actively.

I believe that is one of the objectives of loot boxes and other similar type of monetization within the video game industry, to slowly introduce players to gambling, or at least those with an affinity to it. This is something what would have not happen in previous generations when video games and entertainment itself were disconnected off internet.

Their won’t be huge difference between the gamer and gamblers much.The people who making games for the entertainment alone is an gamer.His full mindset to have entertainment from the games and pass the time with the unique games.But gamblers encourage the involvement of money and like the way of betting their own money.The gamblers like the money multiple techniques.They like to speared the time from the thrill they get from all the game.Some gamblers worry on the game losing and most of the people will not worry about the loss at any sense.The people with less knowledge in gambling use to loss most of the time.They play the game only using the luck based.It’s not a potential gambling,because losing money make all the people to worry instead of some smile on a face.

I was involved first in heavy gaming before gambling. In my experience, I don't encounter any problem transitioning to gaming from gambling because, in the first place, I do gambling not because I will stop gaming. There's no transition that happened but rather I just want to try them both.

I also don't see why it would become difficult to shift from gaming to gambling since of course, I have different purposes why I tried both.

Just enjoy both while being responsible whether gaming or gambling.

I have to agree with this.

Coming from a gamer I don't see that a person will have a hard time adjusting to the phase of gambling. It's not that it's a totally new environment but these gamers might just want to test how's the feeling of winning money in gambling. I do both that's why I can say that. I do gaming or gambling for pleasure and fun but for the latter, I'm targeting winning money in return.

A game is merely for entertainment purposes, it is enjoyable and even more so when you have nothing to lose. However, as soon as money is involved, your mentality, emotional state, and capacity for accepting defeat change.
It is easier for a player who is accustomed to playing poker to apply their newly acquired skills and focus that energy towards the gambling mode, but you should be aware that gambling is a completely new experience. You can use gambling to predict events and place bets, if your prediction comes true, you win, if not, you lose. So, a player who is new to gambling may find it difficult to accept a loss, but they will have the advantage to win the games if the house is fair and honest.

And if such cases that these gamers will tried to do gambling, there would be no such thing that they will not adopt easily the idea of gambling. These games you have mentioned also have a sort of gambling thru purchasing an in-game item where in return, a good item is expected to be received.

These gamers will truly be aware that they are risking money too in the usual gambling and they will take it seriously.

I understand what you are talking about, but it seems to me that we are not discussing grinding in games - where everyone is equal at a distance, that is, roughly speaking, if you grind for 100 hours, then on average you will get 2 S things, 10 A things, etc. We are talking about buying additional boxes from which you can get items that are not otherwise available in the game. And this is very similar to gambling. Because there is no "buying a sword for 100 dollars" but there is buying a lottery ticket to get a sword and in the end the price of the sword can be several thousand dollars if you are unlucky and let's say 5 dollars if you are lucky. How is this different from gambling?

Yes of course, it also falls into gambling. If the sword could not be sold after being bought for money or could not sold for more profit then it would not fall under gambling. Currently you have to invest in such gaming sites which is directly correlate with gambling. From here a gamer can be easily transmitted to gambling.

it's a different field mate if we will make a comparison between online games over online gambling especially when it comes casino and other game luck wherein very unpredictable even you have build a good strategy. Lol there's a big difference tbh and there's a big adjustment for gamers if they will gonna enter on online gambling..

Yes, seen from my glasses a real gamers will try many games, so it's not difficult to play gambling because they have a lot of experience, but gambling is not about strategy and smart. In gambling a required must be dare to take risks, if the gamers do not dare then maybe basic strategy only is not enough. Gambling also has a different higher sensation than any game in general.

Mostly, a good gamer will also likely to be a profitable gambler. Although there's no guaranteed profits in gambling, but if you have skills in different games, then most likely your chances of losing is less. Just keep learning new strategies in every game because that will make you a pro in gambling. However, always gamble on an amount you can afford to lose to avoid future regrets. That way, your funds will never be in danger.

If they can control themselves in gambling, this will become a very good idea to have gambling activities. But, this will not be the same if someone is controlled by the game themselves. We may try to avoid how gambling addiction, but sometimes, we are not aware that we are under the condition of gambling addiction. Activity in online gambling is exactly very easy to reach, moreover we can find so many online gambling platforms everywhere, we can watch the advertisement every time ad wherever we are, moreover on online activities. We can see so many gambling adversitsement.This will probably change the situation? Well, nobody will excatly know.

I am a gamer, been playing games in my entire childhood until now. I don't find it hard to transition from being a gamer to gambler.  Actually it is very easy since gambling as stated is also part of the gaming industry.  There is a sense of games when a person is gambling which is relatable to gamers.  Most gamers is triggered by fun and excitement and gambling gives way more than that because of the involvement of money.

It is really easy to transition, it is that some gamers avoid gambling because of its effect.  But given a chance, being a gamer already has this risk-taker mentality which is present in the gaming world via the PVP system where duel and item bet exist or the PK game system where the possibility of item drop is available.

It depends what "taking seriously" means. Some players may opt not to expect to get some money back from their in-game purchases, because they may want just some cosmetics. while others could as well get into financial trouble due to buying too many loot boxes in the seek for a rare skin, which happened to an Twitch streamer who ended up asking his subscribers for money, etc. I am sure you have read about that case some weeks ago.

I am not sure how difficult it would be to become a profesional gambler on games in comparison to traditional gambling, but at least within the video game industry there is a possibility to become a professional player thanks to one's own skills rather than only focusing on loot boxes yield.

In short some see their purchases as a risk, because they expect something.
While others (who do not care) take it as an expense to enhance their appearance, at least a bit.

besides, you need only common sense for most of the gambling games. unless, you are playing poker, which of course needs at least experience and skills to get the most out of it. but talking about casino classics such as crash, dice, roulette, hi-lo and others. you don't need prior experience just to play these games.
most gamers actually are dealing more complicated games so these casino games would be very easy for them.
with this consideration, i believe it is very easy to become a gambler from being a gamer. they don't need extensive lesson just to go into gambling games.

Just like I used in the example it's like gacha games where players are pulling items or wishing for them with the use of their money. Yes, that's almost gambling because of the risk and money that was involved.
Sorry that I have no idea about the example you used but it seems it's near what I have stated, maybe you just missed reading that part.
Yes, we are going far from what the OP is trying to ask. It is about the transition.
I think it's easy to be a gambler after being a gamer because you have been through different types of risks.
As I said in my earlier posts, gambling is way easier to learn than games with lots of tutorials and instructions to learn.

Actually, items from loot boxes and gacha games are often limited and most likely pay to win items as they have greats stats and you can't really received or get them just by continuous playing or grinding.

Anyways, Can you really call yourself a gamer if you only play gacha games or opening loot boxes on the games itself? Those are just mini-games and somehow borderline gambling (no monetary value when winning) already.

Just know the basic and you can enjoy the game, though some heavy gamers are doing deeper research and analysis thinking that they can break the code and exploit the system, but again in order to play the usual game like those you mentioned, it's only the basic that you need to know and understand then after that you will be able to enjoy or if you are into gambling in a serious manner, maybe chance of having a good luck will allow you to collect a decent amount of money out from this industry.

I knew some people who make a research before gambling. I once subscribed to that channel, I forgot the telegram channel name, he is actually good be teaches us some tricks and tips in dice but I did not maximize it since I don't have that enough money to take a trial and error. And just like the other game, gambling is very challenging and tricky as well, it will blow your mind because sometimes you will thought that you knew the pattern and then you fail.

It is an easy transition with certain types of games, it is a matter that does not change, the fact of the ability that you can take to another level.

This is one of those cases that I know of players who are successful at the poker level and before it was "Gamer":

Bertrand Grospellier ElkY
StarCraft and WarCraft III
Source:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ElkY

I would say there is definitely some overlaps in the habits that draw a gamer back and how they might react in a casino setting. However with age comes experience, sometimes a few bitter losses are necessary to fully understand how the odds are stacked against you. A real gamer is generally someone who is inquisitive and loves to constantly learn how to get better, so they should be able to identify that gambling activities are tilted in one way and they are destined to be the loser over the long term. However you can also have totally sensible gamers who are able to make a clear distinction between often spending nothing beyond the price of the game itself, simply getting pleasure from playing and sinking regular amounts into a reoccurring place like a casino wallet.

Indeed, aside from that Loot boxes and Gacha games makes a player spend more than the value of the rewards if the player luck sucks.  Just like what I watched on a YT channel when a streamer of Ragnarok online streams his activity about gacha games.  He spend $1k+ to open boxes and not a single premium item is won.  All he got was sticks and potions LOL.


Those who spend money in-game are too hook on the game, so aside from gamers they are also called spenders.

I agree with this. If you are already a gamer, there will always be a part of you that will manifest the habit and behavior of being a gamer. For an instance, in playing in a casino or gambling website, they will be keen observer and strategist to win the game. Since most gamers are critical thinkers, they might think thoroughly before making a bet and actually playing the game which is good because it minimizes the risks and the probability of losses.

There are gamers that are really flexible and willing to learn. Hence, there are already a lot of people exploring the other side of entertainment which is gambling. Each people have different attitude and behavior and you will encounter almost every different attitude there is in playing. You'll encounter a humble player who is good in playing, and you will encounter those arrogant ones that feel superior to others. They have different set of skills to offer too which they developed over their gaming years. Others aim just to get satisfaction and have a diversion, while others want to make a sideline out of transitioning in gambling on casinos.

I'm not sure what you meant here mate , but transition from Gamer to Gambler? I don't think so mate .

there are some friends in Group that is indeed gamer but they are not that good in gambling, so there is no easy way to gamble mate it is always hard because we are using our Money in this with risks .
there is also strategy and smartness needs here and that is to decide when to stop and when to run from the table .

@doell is right. It's possible for a gamer to try gambling and be good at it because the truth is that video games are more complex than in gambling, so if they understand it then why not gambling when it's only a simple game. I can say those words because I myself is also a gamer. I've tried so many games on different consoles but that was long time ago.

I am not really that active on it anymore but I am now more active in the gambling scene because my time right now is limited. Knowing when to stop and enter may be included in the strategy but the real strategy in gambling are those martingale and parole . You can also create your own strategies for other gambling games.

In my view, gaming has nothing to do with gambling. This can also be the pitfall for gamers, who think they have an advantage because of their gaming experience. If you're really going to gamble, it doesn't matter how much experience you have in gaming. We all know you're not going to make it against a casino in the end. With gaming you are in principle in control and you are responsible for the end result through your own input. That is not the case at all at a casino. There are also many gamers who have tried their luck at poker, but most without success.

When anyone starts gambling, there's no going back. There are no exceptions to whom could fall a victim or who is tryna evade the menacing grip from fun.
It's a nice expedition to some peeps that have the motive of playing for fun -- since they've realised that every effort to incure a gain is painful ; and anyone that's too eager would pay alot more for their eagerness -- but a bad one for those haven't been convinced yet that gaming isn't an easy-pizzy.

I don't think you need any new experiences as you've had enough already to show you around; except, maybe you were not a long-term gambler  then, the opposite is the case.

That isn't the case for some including me.

I already played many games and spent money on all of it especially the one that I last played before the game that I'm playing right now. I'm spending money into it but in the end, I couldn't get anything in return because I didn't sell my account just for the reason of, I'm using my personal Gmail into it, and I can't give it to the buyer. I didn't get any profit into it. We have different perspective with regards to the 2 because I don't see gaming as gambling. Maybe in those Gacha games you can say but, in some games, it doesn't.

There are certain things that you can learn when you are playing online games for quite some time that can be applied into gambling. I don't know the exact things but for sure, there are strategies and techniques that a gamer can apply when they are gambling, so I guess it's not that hard to make a transition IMO.

Actually gaming experience can be ideal too because of the e-sports betting many people keep playing with the game they want to watch too at the same time of course if you are really an avid fan with the e-sports game for sure you will chance to get a bet to the team you would like to support on so there's a chance you win profit and at the same time is enjoying the game while watching, this is the reason why some of the cryptocurrency casino now are trying to adopt with the sportsbook features.

A casino will always win over the gambler and been an experience gamer as you've said does not makes any good advantage in winning over a casino because they are two different things, playing games is not real, cwn be manipulated and also enhanced but if you're gambling, you realized that something is at stake which is your money and the skills used in playing games cannot be applicable with that of gambling.

Here it is clear that the difference between gamers and gamblers is spending money, gamers want to boost the abilities of their game characters, which are nothing but increasing the chances of winning, while gamblers increase their bets, which does not increase the chances of winning in the slightest. The two are unrelated and require a transition process from scratch. The only habit gamers can carry is that they like to spend money for nothing but the satisfaction of beating opponents. Maybe they also won't feel anything if they lose big in gambling.

Playing games is for real. Games in the casino are one of them and that's why it's real because we deposit real money and we withdraw with real money or cryptocurrencies that they support. The difference from the traditional games that we grew up, it's for fun and no money at stake although we have the same reason why we gamble these days and it's also for fun but can't deny the true thing that we're also aiming to win with those games that we play.

To play a good game you also have to pay money for it as for the game in the casino, many online games also have the opportunity to do in-game purchases.

If a person can't control himself he can spend as much money on an online game as in a casino. For the sake of interest, look how much money creators bring such games as Diablo, World of Tanks or Fortnite. So this statement is quite controversial.

And if you already understand that, you don't need to force yourself to continue playing gambling, let alone deposit more money. That probably won't give you more opportunities but more chances of losing, especially when you play luck-based gambling games. And maybe, in this case, you can choose to just play games instead of gambling because there is no risk of losing after you play unless you buy the items in the game. But buying these items is not a gamble because it can easily increase your character's performance and defeat your enemies.

In the world of gamers can be divided into two categories, there are connoisseurs, some are professionals.
I mean, there are those who play just for fun and there are also those who make gaming part of a profitable business. a gamer does not necessarily like gambling games and vice versa.
However, gamers are often identified with a very complex game. requires skill, strategy and some requires teamwork.

and this is different from gambling games, gambling games are almost purely based on luck although some of them are skill based. both have different sensations, but in essence they are both game-based to entertain.
I don't think there is a difficult transition from gamers to casino gamblers. in fact, one can play both alternately.

I don't think we've gotten off topic, Op says:


Essentially the OP is asking about games that already have a gambling element, and it is clear that the transition from games that contain a gambling element to games that are completely gambling is very simple.
If we transfer the discussion to other games where the risk is choosing strategies/counter strategies to what the opponent is doing, then this is really a different type of risk and I do not think that it will lead the gamer to gambling.

But gamers will have the background, especially in the MMORPG realm like what I and @Boristhecat are discussing when it comes to the gamble of wish or pulling of premium items, in-game purchases that are paid in real cash.
One known game is Genshin Impact which is supportedly widely because of how cool the game is. I also spend some money on it thinking I could get a better item to swap my old one or better, a new character that would help me advance faster in the game.
That's a gamble. It's like rolling a dice to the unknown, then you would have to roll it again (spend more) if you won't have it at your first roll.
Thanks for pointing that out. I thought we got deeper.  :D

Hahahaha...... there's one spirit that comes with gambling. It's cultivated and cultured periodically: after sometime, any attempt to let go is useless.
What got me laughing was the fact that you explained:that gamblers wishing to quit could take up character games as that'll not hurt the characters or their funds ..... There's this inbuilt passion or say -- obsession -- that's buried in their desire to make it major from gambling &/ gain a satisfactory pleasure: some sort that video games can't give.
These satisfaction is not free: they pay heavily for 'em.

The line dividing video games and gambling has become blurred during the last years, now gambling can be enjoyed from the comfort of your own home and by using an electronic device just as video games, and now many video games have random elements in which you can use real money just as gambling, so it is very possible that many people that in the past would not have spent a lot of money in a video game now do so as they do not realize they are in fact gambling and they are not as alert as they should be about their behavior.

If I am to look at gaming in terms of the those that are conversant with a game lik PlayStation and Fifa in contrast to gambling as per sportsbook, you surely have a one way pass already.
Your already familiar with the team strength, player rankings and even the fifa ratings of each team and that is one step to look at in making predictions.
The next is getting familiar with the rules of the gambling industry as per how to place bets and the various options there in and your almost ready to go.
Transition from gamer to gambler is more swift than someone just starting from the scratch.

Might the transition is not fast but I know that was not hard for them. In fact, some online games had turned to gamble, there is money involved already. But I see there is a different approach when regards to gambling in casinos, it was more intense than you are just having fun playing games like a usual thing we do when there is money on the table.

Games are not made to lose you in the long run. In normal games, you clear up levels and attain the highest characters and powers in the game. Game developers earn money through ads and other stuff and they are not worried about your progress in the game.

Gambling is a little different, as the intention is to earn the money right for the beginning. The gamblers are more interested to gain money and are not too worried about the fun part. The fun is usually linked with the money in gambling. As long as you are winning, you will have fun.

A gambling house's main source of income is the money that you put into wagering. So they won't let you win and gambling houses are also there to make money.

Gambling is a game, its just a different background and emphasis to its gameplay.   Some games I've played you are partly gambling anyway or part of the game is a gamble though its usually around aesthetics rather then winning or losing the game.  People take gambling a bit too seriously I think, I understand wanting to win but it is a game in effect and you will pay a price to play it.  Accepting the game, its rules and the bias there is towards paying something for the experience of playing is most realistic then believing any delusion its about making money; at the very least you must master the game before considering any profit possible not the other way round.

A gamer commonly has their own management of games, having more characteristics to play a game, good management of the time, and also funds because gamers will commonly use the money to manage their performance.
I never see directly a gamer into gambling. But, if a common person can do this, gamers will probably be easier to do this, for, they may have been usual with some game management and moreover the emotion controls. Although not all gamers have good emotional control, at least they have been usual with the certain transition from losing to winning and vice versa.
Gamers are also commonly more skillful in some games and this may be good as a basic skill for gambling, although this will also depend on what game they are playing and gambling.

Even if you arent a gamer or having just only that knowledge on basic computer operation skills and awareness then you could easily switch up or able to cope up on learning gambling right away.
It would really be just depending on what type of kind of gambler whether luck based or sports betting which would be requiring knowledge and analysis.
When you are a pc gamer then it wont really be that much hard thing on making transition on making yourself a gambler.You do know the simple or basic instruction or operation
on which these things could do witch you could really easily understand.

Why? Games are different from gamble the same to a gamer from a gambler.
You can say a gambler is a gamer too, because it is really a game to bet. But saying a gamer is a gambler is different thing. Try to open a dictionary or google about what is considered gambling, a game to gambling.
Of course the transition is so easy between the two coz we are all talking about games.

I would say that they are both(gambling is a game) but you are just actually missing something because if you are a gamer you will discover everything along the way by repeating the process everytime you fail since there's no limit to how many times you will die cause you will just respawn. But when you say about gambling it's a different type of game and certainly you will discover more and more along the way too but at the cost of money unlike when you are playing you will only just abuse the given unlimited respawning.

Maybe that user is spending things in games like doing a gacha game which in fact can be treated as gambling if the desired items inside the gacha were unable to get. The items inside the gacha is not guaranteed and RNG will be applied. There are cases in online games where even after spending lots of money, still they can't their target items on gacha.

Just my thought on why that user considers games are gambling which if true, then that's gambling.

Well, on today most online games, spending things is common. You can buy items, game currencies, etc. these games are also addicting but i won't considered them as gambling. Although gacha, claw machines are considered as gambling by others and its true coz you can only play it after you spend like gambling for depositing.
But one thing not all games are gambling, unlike OP is saying.

I do see this attempt as a easy transition because the person must have been used to how the gaming world is with so much experience on how they will be able to handle gambling just like many of the gambling games that are available on many casinos. Some gambling games that are available on some casinos are just like normal game characters where we can always play and enjoy different adventures as we keep playing.
Some of the good gamblers we have now are once a good gamers before jumping into gambling where they gain more passion and earn profits since that is one of the sole reasons why many of us choose to gamble and keep playing bets.

Well I agree with what you said because indeed in the game there is a Gacha system that has to use rare coins to exchange it for something you want but it doesn't necessarily match what you want because what you get is random, a game that often do "Gacha" as an example is Line Get Rich and so on.

Gacha is commonly embedded on a lot of online games nowadays that it's becoming a tiresome thing. Back then you can buy high-class weapons without worrying about getting a shit item because of the lootbox system. It's like the entire online gaming industry is slowly turning towards a gacha-based item shop mixed with lots of microtransactions. Sounds insanely unreal but it's the direction we're heading right now unfortunately, so you can somewhat consider online games as gambling, as you're betting that you'll not get shit items from the loot box.

Loot boxes and stuffs like those are already considered as gambling. And I think there are countries that have put a ban on loot boxes if I remember correctly. It doesn't have to be for profit. If you put your money and you receive random things from a list of things that you wanted, then it is considered as gambling. And yes, those who buy loot boxes or play those game of chances will highly likely start gambling or playing in the casino than those that avoid those activities while gaming.

This is because they know that by doing this they can extract even more profits from their customers, but this is insane, I still remember the days in which you could buy a game and the game already came with all the necessary content and you did not needed to buy anything extra.

Now you are sold the game in portions and each expansion is as costly as the main game, that was already bad enough but now they added gacha to all of this, which explains why I am less and less interested in games in general.

Gambling can happen in any game that often makes them Top Up, because that way game developers have the opportunity to earn money and make the game have a long life because usually that way developers get money from their deposit or Top Up to buy game servers. so the games they play are still there, so when there are those who often do gambling in games and switch to casino gambling they will not be surprised because they are used to doing when in games.

Maybe the gamer will not realize that what they are doing is included in the gambling because they think they are depositing a certain amount of money to get certain items from the game.
But if they don't deposit money to buy those items, they will still be gamers but I think it will be difficult for real gamers if they don't update their characters to achieve top performance in that game.
Usually, a true gamer will try to get the rare items sold in the market; if so, it is not a gamble because he is buying something he wants.
And to switch to gambling or stay in the game, I guess it will depend on each person.

You mean a top up is equivalent to cash-in from the casino?
And you are comparing the frequency of money that were coming in from both the game developer/owner and the casino? And so you mean just because the game involves money, then it could also be considered gambling?
Though gaming and gambling may have few similarities, but this one doesn't make enough sense to me, If I understand you correctly.

I think the user doesn't mean the way you understand it.

If we try to be specific, if the gamer tops-up money for the purpose of trying their luck at the gambling part of the game, which is by trying the roll or spins with the chance of getting good items, then that's what we call gambling.

Generally, doing top-ups on the game does have different purposes.

Very true.
Addiction to games could also be the same in gambling. You can spend as much as you can in a casino while also spending a lot with an online game that you're hooked with.
While we play in casinos, we can imagine that it's a paid service and we're paying for the games that we play while for the traditional games, many of them are for free but with in game purchases although it's voluntary.

If you think that gamblers take their casino games to serious, you would be surprised how competitive and toxic high ranked games in Dota or CSGO can be. I have played both games excessively over the last 6 years and its sad how fast a normal chilled game can turn into a group of angry people shouting at each other. These are games to have fun with, there is no prize money or any other monetary benefit for winning or losing a game. And still people become extremely serious and toxic in online gaming about minor mistakes. A bad fight or losing an important round can bring out the worst in people. When it comes to gambling I can understand that people take it more serious for real money that is involved. Especially if you gamble with more money that you can afford to lose it becomes emotionally frustrating. I would say that someone who becomes easily angry at online gaming should be careful when switching to gambling. Having your emotions not under control will be even worse when you have a bad day in a casino.

Yes, it is really incomparable because in the game, the user are sometimes releasing money to purchase in-game items or avatar without a guarantee that they will earn the same amount or more if they sell their character or some items. While gambling, your money will grow further depends by the odds and lose the same amount if you'll lose but your opponent is the host because they are also their for the same reason why are you there.

If a gamer have topped-up for the sake of trying some loot boxes to win some items that has greats stats, then I don't entirely think that it will fall under gambling exactly, more like borderline gambling, especially if those items does not have any monetary value.

But still, do you consider yourself a gamer if you mostly play on minigames such as lootbox opening and gacha?

It depends on the type of game really, as many games will have a skill cap on the player - either in their ability to be faster physically than other players, through to the hardware that more privileged gamers are able to afford to even richer players being able to buy many perks without thinking twice about the real money cost. Not every game is designed equal and developers are getting a lot more manipulative in how they structure the play. I kind of disagree that gamblers are not interested in the fun part of the game, it is actually the very root of why they are playing - the buzz they got with the first few wins triggered that rush of happiness endorphins which is a feeling they are chasing every time they go back to play.

(both) I think you have a crossover on the concept/use of the jargon in the niche with word  "real" .
In any Casino there are two versions to differentiate them online and offline, in offline there is no possibility of playing with play money, you play with real money, in online casinos there are two options real money or play money.

Now, in either of the two cases, if they use the adjective "real" they must use it correctly according to the jargon, because they confuse the issue of "transition" that really has to do with the skills in one case (Gamers) + the money they earn in that niche with transferring his skills to the casino environment.

I named a player (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5415966.msg61092302#msg61092302), who became a world champion as a Gamer, they paid him for that, I also know professional Chess players who have switched to Poker, definitely in both cases it is a transition.

The issue of whether you do freeroll as a gamer or freeroll (play money) in a casino, which is the issue as they should call it because in the etymology of the word both are real games, that is, real players, regardless of the environment where it happens.

I hope you understand the point of the jargon, so this guys (gamers) they need transition based primarily on their skills in the niche to which they belong.

Then, one player "A" is not in the casino environment, "the Gamer, " so, if he does freeroll or receives payments, he needs to test if he can make the transition to casino games, and in the case of those who are already in a casino but only play with play money they also need to that transition, both in practice are players real...

Most gamers I know deposit money or buy coupon codes for the games they play to buy some items that can improve the performance of their player characters. And most of these items are very rare in the market and only a few can have it mainly because of the high price. Maybe we need the opinion of a gamer who loves the game and often buys items in the game market so that we can know whether they deposited their money because they wanted to buy those rare items or if there was indeed a part of the game that was a lootbox or box. a mystery that contains rare items that must be purchased using money. If so, that would include gambling because we don't even know what's inside the mystery box.

If I have to answer this question, yes, of course, I'm still a gamer that way.

The purpose of spending that money on loot box or gacha is to try luck in getting a good item to improve our character.

I don't see why it can't be considered a gamer just because they are taking their chances mostly on gachas. For sure while playing mostly those minigames or the same kind, they are also spending time grinding. That should be obvious.

Some people, gamers or not, are carried away when they hit their beginner's luck during a session in an online casino. Since they won right away, they will think that playing in an online casino is profitable and that making profits is just that easy.

They didn't know that those experiences are actually bait for them to continue gambling. Since they want to experience that winning experience, they won't stop chasing that feeling and that's it, the start of an addiction.

I think that gamers can easily transition to gambling if they know how to control their greediness and emotion when playing with their money. And, we know that some gamers are really good at strategy games but it's different if we are talking about getting money on the game and maybe a 1% chance of winning a gambling game.

Fair enough, logically there are those gamers especially streamers and pro players that will spend a ton of money for the sake of having those limited and great stats items to boost their account or character.

However, what I mean by my question are those rich players who seldom plays and grinds the game but are always active when there's a new Gacha or Loot Boxes available. Will you still consider this type of player a gamer?

I've encountered both types of players and I never considered the latter player a gamer but rather a spoiled or rich dudes flexing their account.

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Anyways, As for the main topic, about transitioning from a gamer to gambler, I guess one way to incentivize your gaming experience is by gambling on E-sports related matches as you'll be able to analyze better and see through the game better than a normal gambler.

Based on my understanding of the OP, this kind of transition is easy, it doesn't require much effort since the gamer has already understood how to work around the game. Such would only be gambling on what he knows unless the OP refers to another aspect of gambling that does not require a direct contention through playing games. Either one it is, proper knowledge of how to gamble is required, while the betting should be well calculated and managed under the right gambling psychology. Nonetheless, starting with a little amount that will be increased gradually is a good plan too.

What I understand is that the transition from a physical or traditional casino player to a crypto casino player, which is what brings with it everything related to technology, profits, everything that has to do with connecting to the technological tools of the site, the platforms are currently very friendly, but since there are some platforms that have so many things, that sometimes it is necessary to play in DEMO mode so that you can have control of each tool that is presented, all this has a logic and that logic is for me the biggest challenge that a player who comes from a normal traditional casino to a digital one has to learn.

I think something, both games sometimes give money, and you play for money, so here the key to all this is that every time you go to play and make a transition, you must take into account something that very few say, but It's those "customs", you know very well that some players spend a whole day glued to playing and having fun and yes, for them it is the best, and when switching to a casino system, where the games are very fast and in a way violent over time, it is something that can hit them a lot, besides the only thing that can keep them excited is that the interest will become only for money.


Well, we also have to see something, if each person is different, thinks differently, we cannot buy that we will all have the same reactions to various situations in life, obviously a transition for some will be without any kind of attachments, it will be easy, your Assimilation goes hand in hand with what they think and do, but for others it does affect them emotionally, mentally, they see that it is not the same, sociology does play a great role and even the psychology of each person, everything is very different, maybe op has a different vision of what all this could mean for a particular person or for himself, but if there is a big change in the transition, it does affect.

I think some gamers will require to make some adjustments to their attitudes they have when gaming which will make them lose a huge mount if they are gambling, and I am talking about their desire to win, people play video games for fun but gamers are beyond that, they play the game more than the average person in an effort to be better than others, and this attitude will be very unhealthy if they gamble because as we know even if you can win in the short term over the long term you will lose no matter what you do.

I honestly can not compare this two together, a gamer is different from a gambler, anything that is being done for money can not be compared to something that's been done just for passing time sake, gambling and gaming can seem similar to the ordinary eyes, but the motivation that drives the two are quite different.
On one, something(money) is at stake, while on the other, nothing is at stake.
One can make or break you, while the other can not change anything about you.
Though a gamer moving into gambling will do with some experience gained from playing games, but then, it depends on the type of game s he's going to be gambling with.

The kind of mentality that you will think that you can improve more will lead you to think that you win more instead of being contented with the amount that you already earned. This is really something that gamers have disadvantage. though in some cases they can also use it as an advantage if they have a good limitation on how far they are targeting, then quit once they already achieved it.

It can't be generalized as people have different take in controlling what they are thinking is best for their gambling and gaming activities.

I have seen these cases a lot, I think that when a player of this type of games that are more focused on adventure, of being sat for a long time and waiting a certain time to play again, it is a quite shocking process, because in a casino the games are usually very fast and it tells you at once if you win or lose, while in games that are very long, the winnings are very few and the hours of play are many, which quenches the thirst to play of a player, here things are different, the amounts of money can become considerable, and the longer you play, it will not guarantee that you win, for me these things are difficult in their transitions.
Yes, I see your point and it is something very interesting, for me personally I always think that one should improve their game, somehow this takes time and experience, in addition to knowing that we cannot be better than the casino, whatever the casino takes In five many things, first the advantage, second the type of game that is something already complicated and third that when it is played and it is about money things change and can be seen with another tint, the person in question who is the player, no he wants to lose, and he always wants to maintain his status to continue playing and having fun, he wants to win more, sometimes the competition against himself is very strong and that can be detrimental.

This is true for the average gamer but there are many gamers which are in fact gambling, and if you do not believe me take a look at MMORPGs, many of those which play those games do so for fun, but there are a significant amount of players which farm gold or items from the game, and especially in the case of those which farm items they are gambling, as they fight the same boss over and over again hoping to get a specific item, how is this any different than the gambler which keeps betting the same number on the roulette waiting for that number to appear?