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October 08, 2022, 01:38:16 PM
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If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?

I was involved first in heavy gaming before gambling. In my experience, I don't encounter any problem transitioning to gaming from gambling because, in the first place, I do gambling not because I will stop gaming. There's no transition that happened but rather I just want to try them both.

I also don't see why it would become difficult to shift from gaming to gambling since of course, I have different purposes why I tried both.

Just enjoy both while being responsible whether gaming or gambling.
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October 08, 2022, 02:29:38 PM
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Their won’t be huge difference between the gamer and gamblers much

I have to agree with this.

Coming from a gamer I don't see that a person will have a hard time adjusting to the phase of gambling. It's not that it's a totally new environment but these gamers might just want to test how's the feeling of winning money in gambling. I do both that's why I can say that. I do gaming or gambling for pleasure and fun but for the latter, I'm targeting winning money in return.

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October 08, 2022, 02:48:38 PM
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I always consider gaming as gambling I have seen many gamblers spend a lot of money for their character and to level up their account for future profit, like selling their stuff and their character.

If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?

A game is merely for entertainment purposes, it is enjoyable and even more so when you have nothing to lose. However, as soon as money is involved, your mentality, emotional state, and capacity for accepting defeat change.
It is easier for a player who is accustomed to playing poker to apply their newly acquired skills and focus that energy towards the gambling mode, but you should be aware that gambling is a completely new experience. You can use gambling to predict events and place bets, if your prediction comes true, you win, if not, you lose. So, a player who is new to gambling may find it difficult to accept a loss, but they will have the advantage to win the games if the house is fair and honest.

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October 08, 2022, 03:32:59 PM
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This translates that not all gamers will be so easily introduced to gambling, those more used to Call of Duty, MMORPGs, Gacha, Counter Strike, etc would.

And if such cases that these gamers will tried to do gambling, there would be no such thing that they will not adopt easily the idea of gambling. These games you have mentioned also have a sort of gambling thru purchasing an in-game item where in return, a good item is expected to be received.

These gamers will truly be aware that they are risking money too in the usual gambling and they will take it seriously.
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October 08, 2022, 04:07:49 PM
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When you open loot boxes in CS or any game in which the gameplay is related to your skills and skill level, how does this negate the fact that the very opening of a loot box is gambling? If we are talking about the game and account development, then it is obvious that this is not gambling, but an ordinary game where someone plays well, and someone plays badly. But if we evaluate such things as loot boxes separately, then this is very close to gambling.
I don't know about loot boxes in CS but in MMO it depends on the rarity of the box and how much your luck is to gain the best drop you can get.
Then, the system will provide what will be the content of the loot box.
It's not a gamble, it's success base and luck base.
I'd rather compare gacha games where you pull items from wishes where it's mostly paid to be a gamble than the former.
In MMO, you didn't really pay, you are grinding which means even a free to play gamer can receive the same.

I understand what you are talking about, but it seems to me that we are not discussing grinding in games - where everyone is equal at a distance, that is, roughly speaking, if you grind for 100 hours, then on average you will get 2 S things, 10 A things, etc. We are talking about buying additional boxes from which you can get items that are not otherwise available in the game. And this is very similar to gambling. Because there is no "buying a sword for 100 dollars" but there is buying a lottery ticket to get a sword and in the end the price of the sword can be several thousand dollars if you are unlucky and let's say 5 dollars if you are lucky. How is this different from gambling?
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October 08, 2022, 04:27:42 PM
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When you open loot boxes in CS or any game in which the gameplay is related to your skills and skill level, how does this negate the fact that the very opening of a loot box is gambling? If we are talking about the game and account development, then it is obvious that this is not gambling, but an ordinary game where someone plays well, and someone plays badly. But if we evaluate such things as loot boxes separately, then this is very close to gambling.
I don't know about loot boxes in CS but in MMO it depends on the rarity of the box and how much your luck is to gain the best drop you can get.
Then, the system will provide what will be the content of the loot box.
It's not a gamble, it's success base and luck base.
I'd rather compare gacha games where you pull items from wishes where it's mostly paid to be a gamble than the former.
In MMO, you didn't really pay, you are grinding which means even a free to play gamer can receive the same.

I understand what you are talking about, but it seems to me that we are not discussing grinding in games - where everyone is equal at a distance, that is, roughly speaking, if you grind for 100 hours, then on average you will get 2 S things, 10 A things, etc. We are talking about buying additional boxes from which you can get items that are not otherwise available in the game. And this is very similar to gambling. Because there is no "buying a sword for 100 dollars" but there is buying a lottery ticket to get a sword and in the end the price of the sword can be several thousand dollars if you are unlucky and let's say 5 dollars if you are lucky. How is this different from gambling?
Yes of course, it also falls into gambling. If the sword could not be sold after being bought for money or could not sold for more profit then it would not fall under gambling. Currently you have to invest in such gaming sites which is directly correlate with gambling. From here a gamer can be easily transmitted to gambling.

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October 08, 2022, 04:46:35 PM
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I always consider gaming as gambling I have seen many gamblers spend a lot of money for their character and to level up their account for future profit, like selling their stuff and their character.

If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?
it's a different field mate if we will make a comparison between online games over online gambling especially when it comes casino and other game luck wherein very unpredictable even you have build a good strategy. Lol there's a big difference tbh and there's a big adjustment for gamers if they will gonna enter on online gambling..
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October 08, 2022, 05:43:53 PM
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Yes, seen from my glasses a real gamers will try many games, so it's not difficult to play gambling because they have a lot of experience, but gambling is not about strategy and smart. In gambling a required must be dare to take risks, if the gamers do not dare then maybe basic strategy only is not enough. Gambling also has a different higher sensation than any game in general.

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October 08, 2022, 10:27:56 PM
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It's easy, you don't have to start all over it. Being a gamer, you understand logic already that you can see in the casinos, so, don't stop yourself if you want to try to gamble, just do it.
There's no difference of motivation and mindset from being a gamer and a gambler, all you have to think is the same and that's to become stronger and for you to win, none other than that.
Mostly, a good gamer will also likely to be a profitable gambler. Although there's no guaranteed profits in gambling, but if you have skills in different games, then most likely your chances of losing is less. Just keep learning new strategies in every game because that will make you a pro in gambling. However, always gamble on an amount you can afford to lose to avoid future regrets. That way, your funds will never be in danger.

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October 08, 2022, 10:39:33 PM
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Which gamers do you refer to? Online gamers?
Of course, it will be easy for online gamers to adapt to casino/gambling games because those are online games as well.
But if we consider the motivation or mindset of gambling games, it is a bit different. A gamer cannot think to play casino/gambling games as often as possible because it requires money. It is not the same as free online games, we should have good time management and money management for casino/gambling games.
A gamer usually has a good idea about gaming. If he continues the process of online gaming then ‍at any of the moment he may be transmitted to gambling. Because game and gambling are two clauses word. In a sense, the word gambling originates from games. It is true that if the gamer makes a positive impression on gambling then it will be transmitted to gambling in the future. Because now gambling is very easy in everywhere.
If they can control themselves in gambling, this will become a very good idea to have gambling activities. But, this will not be the same if someone is controlled by the game themselves. We may try to avoid how gambling addiction, but sometimes, we are not aware that we are under the condition of gambling addiction. Activity in online gambling is exactly very easy to reach, moreover we can find so many online gambling platforms everywhere, we can watch the advertisement every time ad wherever we are, moreover on online activities. We can see so many gambling adversitsement.This will probably change the situation? Well, nobody will excatly know.

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October 08, 2022, 10:43:10 PM
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Their won’t be huge difference between the gamer and gamblers much

I have to agree with this.

Coming from a gamer I don't see that a person will have a hard time adjusting to the phase of gambling. It's not that it's a totally new environment but these gamers might just want to test how's the feeling of winning money in gambling. I do both that's why I can say that. I do gaming or gambling for pleasure and fun but for the latter, I'm targeting winning money in return.

I am a gamer, been playing games in my entire childhood until now. I don't find it hard to transition from being a gamer to gambler.  Actually it is very easy since gambling as stated is also part of the gaming industry.  There is a sense of games when a person is gambling which is relatable to gamers.  Most gamers is triggered by fun and excitement and gambling gives way more than that because of the involvement of money.

It is really easy to transition, it is that some gamers avoid gambling because of its effect.  But given a chance, being a gamer already has this risk-taker mentality which is present in the gaming world via the PVP system where duel and item bet exist or the PK game system where the possibility of item drop is available.

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October 08, 2022, 10:47:20 PM
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This translates that not all gamers will be so easily introduced to gambling, those more used to Call of Duty, MMORPGs, Gacha, Counter Strike, etc would.

... These games you have mentioned also have a sort of gambling thru purchasing an in-game item where in return, a good item is expected to be received.

These gamers will truly be aware that they are risking money too in the usual gambling and they will take it seriously.

It depends what "taking seriously" means. Some players may opt not to expect to get some money back from their in-game purchases, because they may want just some cosmetics. while others could as well get into financial trouble due to buying too many loot boxes in the seek for a rare skin, which happened to an Twitch streamer who ended up asking his subscribers for money, etc. I am sure you have read about that case some weeks ago.

I am not sure how difficult it would be to become a profesional gambler on games in comparison to traditional gambling, but at least within the video game industry there is a possibility to become a professional player thanks to one's own skills rather than only focusing on loot boxes yield.

In short some see their purchases as a risk, because they expect something.
While others (who do not care) take it as an expense to enhance their appearance, at least a bit.


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October 08, 2022, 11:05:53 PM
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It's easy, you don't have to start all over it. Being a gamer, you understand logic already that you can see in the casinos, so, don't stop yourself if you want to try to gamble, just do it.
There's no difference of motivation and mindset from being a gamer and a gambler, all you have to think is the same and that's to become stronger and for you to win, none other than that.
Mostly, a good gamer will also likely to be a profitable gambler. Although there's no guaranteed profits in gambling, but if you have skills in different games, then most likely your chances of losing is less. Just keep learning new strategies in every game because that will make you a pro in gambling. However, always gamble on an amount you can afford to lose to avoid future regrets. That way, your funds will never be in danger.

besides, you need only common sense for most of the gambling games. unless, you are playing poker, which of course needs at least experience and skills to get the most out of it. but talking about casino classics such as crash, dice, roulette, hi-lo and others. you don't need prior experience just to play these games.
most gamers actually are dealing more complicated games so these casino games would be very easy for them.
with this consideration, i believe it is very easy to become a gambler from being a gamer. they don't need extensive lesson just to go into gambling games.

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October 09, 2022, 08:18:56 AM
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When you open loot boxes in CS or any game in which the gameplay is related to your skills and skill level, how does this negate the fact that the very opening of a loot box is gambling? If we are talking about the game and account development, then it is obvious that this is not gambling, but an ordinary game where someone plays well, and someone plays badly. But if we evaluate such things as loot boxes separately, then this is very close to gambling.
I don't know about loot boxes in CS but in MMO it depends on the rarity of the box and how much your luck is to gain the best drop you can get.
Then, the system will provide what will be the content of the loot box.
It's not a gamble, it's success base and luck base.
I'd rather compare gacha games where you pull items from wishes where it's mostly paid to be a gamble than the former.
In MMO, you didn't really pay, you are grinding which means even a free to play gamer can receive the same.

I understand what you are talking about, but it seems to me that we are not discussing grinding in games - where everyone is equal at a distance, that is, roughly speaking, if you grind for 100 hours, then on average you will get 2 S things, 10 A things, etc. We are talking about buying additional boxes from which you can get items that are not otherwise available in the game. And this is very similar to gambling. Because there is no "buying a sword for 100 dollars" but there is buying a lottery ticket to get a sword and in the end the price of the sword can be several thousand dollars if you are unlucky and let's say 5 dollars if you are lucky. How is this different from gambling?
Just like I used in the example it's like gacha games where players are pulling items or wishing for them with the use of their money. Yes, that's almost gambling because of the risk and money that was involved.
Sorry that I have no idea about the example you used but it seems it's near what I have stated, maybe you just missed reading that part.
Yes, we are going far from what the OP is trying to ask. It is about the transition.
I think it's easy to be a gambler after being a gamer because you have been through different types of risks.
As I said in my earlier posts, gambling is way easier to learn than games with lots of tutorials and instructions to learn.

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October 09, 2022, 03:17:50 PM
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When you open loot boxes in CS or any game in which the gameplay is related to your skills and skill level, how does this negate the fact that the very opening of a loot box is gambling? If we are talking about the game and account development, then it is obvious that this is not gambling, but an ordinary game where someone plays well, and someone plays badly. But if we evaluate such things as loot boxes separately, then this is very close to gambling.
I don't know about loot boxes in CS but in MMO it depends on the rarity of the box and how much your luck is to gain the best drop you can get.
Then, the system will provide what will be the content of the loot box.
It's not a gamble, it's success base and luck base.
I'd rather compare gacha games where you pull items from wishes where it's mostly paid to be a gamble than the former.
In MMO, you didn't really pay, you are grinding which means even a free to play gamer can receive the same.
Actually, items from loot boxes and gacha games are often limited and most likely pay to win items as they have greats stats and you can't really received or get them just by continuous playing or grinding.

Anyways, Can you really call yourself a gamer if you only play gacha games or opening loot boxes on the games itself? Those are just mini-games and somehow borderline gambling (no monetary value when winning) already.

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It's easy, you don't have to start all over it. Being a gamer, you understand logic already that you can see in the casinos, so, don't stop yourself if you want to try to gamble, just do it.
There's no difference of motivation and mindset from being a gamer and a gambler, all you have to think is the same and that's to become stronger and for you to win, none other than that.
Mostly, a good gamer will also likely to be a profitable gambler. Although there's no guaranteed profits in gambling, but if you have skills in different games, then most likely your chances of losing is less. Just keep learning new strategies in every game because that will make you a pro in gambling. However, always gamble on an amount you can afford to lose to avoid future regrets. That way, your funds will never be in danger.

besides, you need only common sense for most of the gambling games. unless, you are playing poker, which of course needs at least experience and skills to get the most out of it. but talking about casino classics such as crash, dice, roulette, hi-lo and others. you don't need prior experience just to play these games.
most gamers actually are dealing more complicated games so these casino games would be very easy for them.
with this consideration, i believe it is very easy to become a gambler from being a gamer. they don't need extensive lesson just to go into gambling games.
Just know the basic and you can enjoy the game, though some heavy gamers are doing deeper research and analysis thinking that they can break the code and exploit the system, but again in order to play the usual game like those you mentioned, it's only the basic that you need to know and understand then after that you will be able to enjoy or if you are into gambling in a serious manner, maybe chance of having a good luck will allow you to collect a decent amount of money out from this industry.

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October 09, 2022, 05:44:02 PM
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Just know the basic and you can enjoy the game, though some heavy gamers are doing deeper research and analysis thinking that they can break the code and exploit the system, but again in order to play the usual game like those you mentioned, it's only the basic that you need to know and understand then after that you will be able to enjoy or if you are into gambling in a serious manner, maybe chance of having a good luck will allow you to collect a decent amount of money out from this industry.
I knew some people who make a research before gambling. I once subscribed to that channel, I forgot the telegram channel name, he is actually good be teaches us some tricks and tips in dice but I did not maximize it since I don't have that enough money to take a trial and error. And just like the other game, gambling is very challenging and tricky as well, it will blow your mind because sometimes you will thought that you knew the pattern and then you fail.
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October 09, 2022, 09:02:43 PM
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It is an easy transition with certain types of games, it is a matter that does not change, the fact of the ability that you can take to another level.

This is one of those cases that I know of players who are successful at the poker level and before it was "Gamer":

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ElkY was one of the top ranked StarCraft players in the world, having placed second in the World Cyber Games in 2001 and continuing his career in South Korea in the years subsequent including a fourth-place finish in an Ongamenet Starleague. By 2002, he picked up the newly released WarCraft III: Reign of Chaos and garnered success by finishing second in the televised Ongamenet WarCraft Retail League before retiring
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October 09, 2022, 09:23:59 PM
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I always consider gaming as gambling I have seen many gamblers spend a lot of money for their character and to level up their account for future profit, like selling their stuff and their character.

If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?

I would say there is definitely some overlaps in the habits that draw a gamer back and how they might react in a casino setting. However with age comes experience, sometimes a few bitter losses are necessary to fully understand how the odds are stacked against you. A real gamer is generally someone who is inquisitive and loves to constantly learn how to get better, so they should be able to identify that gambling activities are tilted in one way and they are destined to be the loser over the long term. However you can also have totally sensible gamers who are able to make a clear distinction between often spending nothing beyond the price of the game itself, simply getting pleasure from playing and sinking regular amounts into a reoccurring place like a casino wallet.

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October 09, 2022, 09:32:01 PM
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Actually, items from loot boxes and gacha games are often limited and most likely pay to win items as they have greats stats and you can't really received or get them just by continuous playing or grinding.

Indeed, aside from that Loot boxes and Gacha games makes a player spend more than the value of the rewards if the player luck sucks.  Just like what I watched on a YT channel when a streamer of Ragnarok online streams his activity about gacha games.  He spend $1k+ to open boxes and not a single premium item is won.  All he got was sticks and potions LOL.

Anyways, Can you really call yourself a gamer if you only play gacha games or opening loot boxes on the games itself? Those are just mini-games and somehow borderline gambling (no monetary value when winning) already.

Those who spend money in-game are too hook on the game, so aside from gamers they are also called spenders.
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