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As a first post I wanted to try and motivate people in the community. If at least one person will be motivated by this post, it is a win for me!

Clearly, by the LUNA fall and then we are experiencing a bear market. No one can deny that.

I have been in the space since 2017 - I wasn't just too bored to write here, since now  ;D - and I have seen a lot of ups and downs from the market all this time.
It is obvious that people are losing attention when the market is down and they try to grab opportunities from serious even from scam projects during a bull market.

I just want to say to all the members that will read this that a bear market doesn't say anything about your investment. In the long term you are going to reap profits from the coin you have selected, especially if your coin is a well established one with developers with experience and passion for crypto evolvement.

A hint for that is the growth of Bitcoin through the years.

https://imgur.com/a/lHlwUsB

Bitcoin ROI is at 13820.78% right now, cosindering the fact that the price is pretty low right now it can still explode.

Keep accumulating crypto and you will reap the rewards in the future!

You are welcome to bitcointalk.

There are some coins that do not reach all-time-high after bitcoin hit all-time-high in 2021. People should be careful, those that invested on some altcoins when their price was very high may not achieve the aim, expecting the price to increase and reach the price when they invested it, they may be disappointed after they have waited for years, expecting the coins to reach the price when they invested on it but remain unrealized loss when bitcoin reach all-time-high. I will advice people to invest in bitcoin.

Some would say better late than never, but 5 years visiting the forum and not writing a single post is really too much - don't be so lazy ;)


I won't write about any percentages, but when there is no profit in sight, most people are not interested in cryptocurrencies - that's how it was in the past, and I don't believe it will change in the future. Scams are always present, maybe even more so in a bear market when various projects try to sell the idea that they are better than others for some reason.

Their methodology is very simple, and it plays on one of the most widespread human traits, which is greed. If someone invests in Bitcoin today and hopes for x5 in the next few years, it's not something most people consider a great opportunity - but those who promise x50 or x100 are much more interesting, especially for inexperienced beginners.

Keep accumulating Bitcoin rather than crypto. That's the best choice and also the safest. But forget about 13,820.78%. Bitcoin at this point could only multiply a number of folds. Although it's unfortunate that we haven't known it when it was only a cent, it's probably good enough that it would x5 or even x10 with a relatively low risk.

Altcoins are risky. Terra (LUNA) was a great choice as far as altcoin investment is concerned. It was the best until it wasn't. If an altcoin as big as Terra (LUNA) could fail, the rest of the tens of thousands of smaller altcoins could also fail.

We can't just keep accumulating anything that comes our way OP, there are differences between a altcoin project and many other altcoins, you should rather advise people to keep accumulating strong altcoins with large volumes on exchanges, many altcoins won't survive in this bear market, you said you've been here since 2017? I expected you to know this already.

Same advise but it totally depend on someone apetite for risk. There are some investors who are soft hearted when they saw their investment crampled and sell at a loss. But thats normal having doubts isnt something you can easily erase. 

Invest on altcoins and surely youll definitely experience loss but also has a greater chance of earning much more than btc. Of course that depend on which coin you choose. Pick a good and establish one and you are good. Avoid some shitcoin these are short to medium period only.

It’s just a price movement, its won’t make any sense going at ine direction all the time we should accept when it’s going down as much as we love seeing going up, i have been in the market for so long now and what i learned is to not regret because if you feel guilt and let your emotions control you it going to destroy your good point of veiw and may keep you away of crypto and you will start not believing in it, use crypto as a way of payment and alternative of banks and then you may get benefits of trading. It’s more than just an investment it’s a game change for all the world. Bear and bull market won’t stop you just choose the right time to take the train

Economy goes in cycles. And bear market is a healthy part of the economic cycle.

I believe bitcoin is crashing just like everything else, this is a bitcoin crisis or just another crypto winter. This is a world economic crisis.

Bitcoin always have bear and bull markets, like everything else.

https://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/coindesk/VBV7QYU5MZDLHHFR7AQJZG3CBA.jpg
https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2021/04/30/with-bitcoin-bear-markets-like-these-who-needs-the-bulls/

In a stock market crash, you will most likely make money because sp500 and other indexes will most likely recover. However,  as much we all believe that bitcoin will recover , this is not as probable. Be aware of the risks when investing your money, and we may not have seen the bottom yet!

today the ROI of bitcoin has reached= up 14000.10%  
ATL % = up 29000,20%
ATH % = down 72%

the majority of beginners would expect bitcoin to increase many times over in a short time but they don't want to fight when the bitcoin price goes down. the current bitcoin price is heavily discounted from its ATH, after all, it is a good opportunity to continue buying, don't hesitate or be afraid just because of the volatility of Bitcoin because market bulls will happen later.

I won't buy this your last piece of advice because you started well giving strong warning on the recent Luna scam that loom away assets that cannot be counted for and now at the end you're still suggesting to go for the other brothers of Luna? Altcoins in general is risky, why not go for bitcoin and use the historical record from it to build a credible speculation about the price and take good advantage in this bear period to enter than looking for another Luna to run someone lunatic at the end of the show, what do you think?

Not all coins you selected(invested) will be profitable in the future. Some coins have no potential to increase whether the bull run is around or not. The advisable thing to do now is to accumulate more bitcoin than crypto. Don't go into bitcoin if you don't have a long-term vision of holdling it till 2024 cause this year and next year will be bearish seasons in the crypto market. If you ought to invest in crypto, invest with your spare money. 

It's amazing, your first post aims to motivate everyone who reads this thread. There's nothing wrong as long as it's good and useful.

But have you implemented what you describe in this thread?

If this is one of the first steps you implement, it will be very good and will reap the benefits if you continue to persevere.

I also always collect bitcoins that I get from various sources. Holding on long term until it reaches that latest ATH is my goal.
Keep accumulating crypto for the long term, and you have to be consistent if you can survive.

It ain't that simple as it depends in what you invested. Vast majority of coins won't either survive bear market or even again reach the previous all time high, just like it happened previous time. Another thing that people often do is that they hodl for too long and they don't have guts to sell with the loss and instead they end up being bag holders. It doesn't even matter if its "well established with experienced developers" as that won't help them much since they don't have any real utility ( Cardano is good example of that).



Let me fix this for you: keep accumulating bitcoin and you will reap rewards in the future.

The chart caught my attention, though. I think there is some different opinion in regard to the condition of the market between 2018 and 2020. Many, including, consider it as a bear market. Not a mini-bull market in between. Bitcoin hovered between 3,000 to 10,000 for a very long time, way below the 20K all time

People differ, opinion also differ and people's way of life are totally different. I cannot lurke for more than one month without joining or losing interest in a particular group. It's somewhat surprising to me to understand that someone has been in the guest mode for more than 5 years without joining the forum and is still motivated to at least finally make an appearance and post. It is something worth celebrating  ;D

OP, welcomes you to the forum and I am happy that you are not coming as a newbie in crypto, rather as what they call a professional newbie. It could be that you have gotten the knowledge of this forum more than my myself because I am bearly 1+ years here.

Cool, at least you have the decency to share your opinions and experiences in this community since I also joined here in 2017. And so we have seen the rise in 2017 and then in 2021.

And with that we've learned our lessons, specially on bitcoin market, bear market is not something that we should not like or afraid of. It's the time wherein we should accumulate, the price of bitcoin is like -70% down for it's last all time high. So if you look at it, still very cheap at this point. We just need to be patience and DCA and wait for the next bull run. And who knows, it could be around 6 digits figures.

Choice is critical.

Don't say crypto in general because there are some crypto that are not worth to be accumulated because they're bound to be dead soon and that's what we don't like to see from other investors accumulating.

That's why the choice is very critical and we've got the best of it from owning bitcoin and the other altcoins that are still alive today. Because in the next bull run, we don't know how many of them would be dead as good and can no longer recover.

That's the spirit and welcome to the party hope to see more of you around here.

There is nothing more than a bear market that scares hodlers more than this right here, and how do I know this....This is through the experience of trading and gambling! We people tend to hold on to losers more but can't hold on to winners for a long time. But for crypto people arent holding on to their losers, they are panic selling.

Love the advice but let us call a spade a spade, Btc investments aren't the answer to some kind of get rich quick scheme although people have had some luck on their ROI in a short period  :P. We all need to know BTC investments will have good and bad days and we ought to be ready for this to avoid panic selling.

These numbers look good on paper and sad truth to this is if you want to have such a ROI by now its either you have sold most of your coins or lost access to these coins altogether, being a hodler ain't easy ::).

Totally true and fully agree with that.
However, in most of us something sparkled the interest in cryptocurrencies. The freedom. the technology, anonymity etc. we didn't come here for the profit in the first place.
Profit came afterwards, let me say, as a reward for being involved to something new. Personally, I am not in favor for people who seek the easy and fast profit without knowing anything about the crypto space.

People are losing attention in the market because they are busy saving themselves from ever-increasing losses.
And if they don't see it as a way to collect coins that are promising and have the potential to improve, they will miss the bull run and the next season of altcoins.
The bear and bull markets will still exist in the crypto market and no one can be sure when it will start and end, and all we can do is be prepared for all the possibilities.
So if we are still in a bear market now, we can start making a list of potential coins to buy to get big profits in the next bull market.

You won’t say that pretty low word if you are really in to crypto space since 2017 because the current price is the previous All Time High of the last crypto cycle which you claimed that you started. You should knew very well that the current price is the last major support before it will go down again to the next major support which is 15K to 10K. I really like the encouragement to newbies but I hope that it will be backed with some analysis that will convinced newbie to keep buying on this current market condition.

Yes, DCA is the right approach on this kind of bear market but the current global economy conditions makes me question whether it’s right to accumulate now or wait for a good buy signal such improvement on global economy. It’s better to minimize loss since you have an edge that price will go up because of fundamental that backing it rather than just hold on the price projection like Bitcoin rainbow chart.

There are always exceptions, but most are not interested in technology, or even in understanding the basics. Some members have been here for years and still have problems defining Bitcoin and blockchain, or coin address versus private key.

It seems to me that the majority of new members spend most of their time in altcoins boards and participate in bounty campaigns, and this is not surprising considering that this forum is known in some third-world countries as a platform where you can make money just by posting social media links promoting various shady projects.

If you stay active on the forum long enough, I'm sure that some things will become much clearer to you through interaction with other members.

The bear market is where the real crypto money can be made, either BTC bottom is in or not you have nothing to worry about if you are using the DCA technique.

Not all altcoins deserve your money, most have no potential and they did well in the last bull season because of hype, be careful when choosing altcoins.

I believe that Metaverse and Play to earn still have some role to play in crypto space coming years, so much hype around this use cases.

I do believe about these metaverses have something to play in the market and could give profit to the investors but I was not sure about these P2E gaming platforms as their time is likely over. I'd see they are very progressive last year as the bull season hits the market but unfortunately, they are losing their potential, in fact, a lot of P2E investors and participants leaving this platform because they are not earning a profit anymore and losing their time as well. In these days, invest and hold those project that we know it will survive from the dip like Bitcoin and Ethereum.

That is why never entrust into altcoins your hard-earned money particularly on the new projects that are out in the market because they bring the highest risk. Focus on bitcoin and maximize your investment on it. That way, you will be safe from scamming, and you could make huge profits in the long run if you can start buying bitcoin this time and hold it patiently for long term. If others have succeeded in bitcoin, then we can always do it too with focus and determination.

Is this a financial advice? I personally think it should not be, because this is part of the reasons we have many people running away from crypto-currency claiming that it's a scam or a financial trap that only extort them of their capital.
I don't tell people to accumulate crypto-currency all because they want fast earning or they want to get faster and better returns on investment.
Rather I advice then to accumulate more Bitcoin because it has more potential in terms of helping with all of the financial issues that has come to be a tradition using Fiat.

It’s normal to get emotional sometimes and feel fear when it comes to investments because all investments have their own risks. But when you invest for altcoins, though some are exceptionally good and profitable, but most of them still end up not valuable at all especially for shitcoins and meme coins. The reason why we need to put trust more on bitcoin because it’s the most prominent asset and even has the highest risk but the biggest returns as well.

My best advice is to never be afraid of taking risks. Even if the market is in a bearish condition, that won’t stay forever. As they’ve said, there’s always a rainbow after the rain. So never stop accumulating bitcoin especially when the price drops more, as the more you have bitcoin, the higher the profits you will achieve. Also, always have a positive mindset because that will be a great motivation to keep you going.

Unfortunately, this is the part people forget so easily, they would prefer to ride the market instead of buying now that there is a bear market, the fumbling part I do see and hear from investors is that they are still waiting for the bottom, they feel that the bottom isn't in yet and that will be how they will all miss the entire opportunity while waiting for the opportunity that may not come.
DCA is the best for anyone who is doubtful about the state of bitcoin, buy little sats by sats, you have nothing to lose at the end even if it dumps further, it is safer to have a sats at some fair price than never having anything at all, they most likely end up buying at a new time high and cry that crypto is not good for them.

Altcoins are good investments too but they are only good for short term profitability, so if you are looking for long term profitability that will make your future brighter, then stick to bitcoin which is the most prominent coin in the market. History has proven it more safe and secured despite of the uncertain and unpredictable market.

Being afraid is human nature. Sometimes, it is unavoidable.
We know that investing in crypto coins has a big risk because of their volatility. And there is no guarantee of profits although we choose the top coins. It is not only about confidence or bravery, but how we have sufficient knowledge and experience. I agree that we must be optimistic and never feel worried to buy more when there is a big decrease in crypto prices. However, we don't know when the next pump/big raise. Also, we are sometimes afraid that after we bought coins, the prices are getting drop more.

This really shocked us all. But it also reminds us that no matter how good it is, altcoins are still very risky and have a higher level of risk compared to investing in Bitcoins. There are no altcoins that can guarantee, although that is top altcoins.

This also doesn't guarantee that a certain project will not fail or scam. One of them is the team LUNA, they are a strong team that includes all professional people inside. They also have experienced, but after one thing, they failed at.

Bitcoin is the most promising crypto investment for the future, especially if we meet the Bullrun after buying them in this kind of bear run. No matter what, Bitcoin is still the worthiest, although this also still has risks.

I think DCA is very appropriate for investment choice during bear market, the influence of global economic conditions will not bring down the crypto market even the crypto market has increased during the pandemic where every economy has fallen at that time, so not always other factors can be associated with crypto market conditions, so I prioritize the DCA method during bear markets to accumulate assets in a long-term portfolio.

Although that there would be uncertainties, empty promises or guarantees about the future price of Bitcoin, it was believed that the best time to accumulate is that when things are going quiet like what we are right now in the bear market.

I do DCA with Bitcoin and recently with Ethereum as long my extra “not beer” money can afford. So yeah I just keep accumulating as much as I can to prepare for the “big rain”.

Thanks for the advice, howerver, there are some coin who never go back to their all time high. one should be careful of which coin to buy rn

Cryptocurrency investment is not just to buy any coin but to take your time to seek for the best coins/token so if you wanna investment make your proper research look out for the best coin, maybe top 7 coins which could give you what you want maybe before the bear you would have make out something, then during next you acquired more. Sometimes bitcoin is more much valuable to hold than altcoin and most focused on the areas of either long or short term investment this will help maintain your portfolio.

I guess the majority of people loosing interest in the market right now are mostly new investors to the space, I was once at the shoes when I newly got into the crypto space, don't know anything about Bitcoin and bought my cryptos at the top of the market and then the market crashed on me, I waited for about six months plus hoping that market was gonna recover, rather we got another leg down, never had about HODL and I sold at huge lost. How I wish I found myself in this Forum then with the information I've gotten now.

Therefore the bottom line is, any investors here loosing hope in the market should HODL to next cycle. The market moves a in cycle, You should get more interested when the space is getting so bored , because this is when there is usually biggest opportunity in the market.

I saw this and I felt you've been around since 2017 and never made a post, thought it must have been really scary for you not until I checked your profile and noted your space to mean cryptospace and not on the forum as I thought with your account being created dats back. Anyway, your welcome on the forum and I hope to see more of an experience Newbie of you, lol...

Interest in the crypto market often comes with the  bull market as everyone hopes to gain something from the pumps but the best way to that gain would have been buying during the bears but, the fud of a crash won't let them. Its just said to have them think this way!

I think the only people that should panic about the current market condition are the newbies, they are the once that really need the advice because most of them haven't experienced that kind of market condition before, I believe they will definitely panic because is not really easy seeing your money reducing on a daily basis, but for people that have been in crypto space for long term, the current bear market is not new to them, so I don't think they should be disturbed. The bear market gives people opportunity to accumulate more bitcoin.
We all saw what Luna did this year, am sure any altcoin can also do the same at any moment so we have to be very careful when investing in altcoins, seriously I always discourage people from investing in altcoins, the only coin I do recommend for people to invest in is bitcoin, just buy and hold your bitcoin and you will have rest of mind.

We can't just keep buying everything that comes our way, OP. There are differences between a particular altcoin project and a lot of other altcoins, so you ought to advise people to keep buying strong altcoins that trade in large volumes on exchanges instead. Many of them won't make it through the current bear market. You claimed to have been here since 2017. I assumed you already knew this.

Your advice regarding bear market is really appreciated. In dear market we need to accumulate with a lot of good projects. And bear market is necessary to enter the crypto market or to fill the bags with crypto. So we should research by own in this bear market before taking any decision.

Past performance alone is not a good argument for anything. Shitcoins and ponzi schemes also have amazing ROI, until they collapse. A better argument is that Bitcoin's fundamentals have not changed, so this bear market is just a period of speculative cooling off. There are no good reasons to think that Bitcoin is in bear market because something is wrong with it.


Buying random "crypto" is a good way to lose money. Altcoins are losing their value in the long run. They are crated to generate hype, get money from investors and market manipulation, and then the devs move on to a new flashy project with the same formula.

The bear market present a great buy opportunity, most here know this.  However, for some reason, the typical masses prefer to buy in during bull market, missing out on significant and at times astronomical gains- don't be this.

It's always strange for me to see schadenfreude about the fall in the bitcoin exchange rate for example. It seems like something between envy and unwillingness to get out from under a stone. Cryptocurrencies area living organism, it reacts sensitively to events in the world and the crypto world. But that is why it is subject to the same principle - growth follows recession, and decline follows growth. You need to be able to wait and react in time.

Agree, in the long term we will get profit, I once bought bitcoin when the price was rising at around $52k, had a chance to sell when the price was $69k but I think that the market will continue to rise, and I'm optimistic 2 or 3 years from the price can reach 2x than what I've ever bought.

Buying during a bull market is of course because they have been exposed to FOMO that the market will continue to go up and up, whereas when they start buying in a bull market, a dump will immediately occur and this will be a willing trap that can be very detrimental.

The truth is buying in a bear market as it is today, Bitcoin price is still quite cheap if we look at bitcoin's last ATH. and buying when bearish must also be with a strategy, don't do all this because it will be dangerous. it's better to buy gradually when the price drops. leave some money in reserve in case the price continues to fall.

^ I think anytime you can enter the market as an investor either a bull market or a bear market, if the price continues to go down you can do purchasing in a DCA way if the price keeps declining just continue purchasing, and the last one is doing the math and calculate it to determine your goal of making a profit. As long as you are not selling under the price where you purchased, you are safe. Keep in the long term if the market falls down, there is nothing to lose once you did not sell it. We have seen different advice and I hope we can able to apply it to ourselves.

This sounds simple to do but it's no doubt that the majority are having difficulty doing this and that's the reality.

There are valid reasons though why it's hard to accumulate more even on the bear market:

- Anticipation that the price will decrease more
- No signs that a possible bull run might happen that's why still observing the market
- Not much money to risk especially if the purpose is to hold for long
- Not all people like to hold. Some try to take advantage if there's a price swing
- Others just follow on hype before accumulating more

If it's only simple for some people to just accumulate during the bear market for the purpose of holding long, we should see many of them rejoicing on good profits once a bull trend now starts to kick-off but it's not most cases we are seeing.

Long term investment will always be the best choice. Only Bitcoin and not crypto.
Crypto won't be as promising as you say. Terra (LUNA), which is considered a potential altcoin, has made many investors go bankrupt. That's a real thing with altcoins.

If you want to reap beautiful results in the future? collect Bitcoin little by little.

That's why we should use diversification methods when investing in altcoins. If I invest in 10 altcoins then there is a chance that 3 of them will cross their all-time high. Most of the altcoin is 98% down so only 3 projects reaching in target can recover all the losses. It is a risky part so if someone wants to stay safe they should have stayed in BTC only as its history of breaking ATH is consistent.

On the other side, diversity is good, but I wouldn't put like 10 altcoins in my portfolio, majority will be bitcoin and the rest are solid altcoins, the most I will have is just like 5, like ETH, BNB and ADA.

But bitcoin will be like 60% of my portfolio, yes I would agree that altcoin tends to give returns in the next bull run, but it was not an assurance, and the risk is very high as compare to bitcoin.

Bitcoin could be volatile, but if we look at it's past history, chances are in the next bull run we might be seeing 6 digits, at least $100k minimum and that will be huge.

I have often seen, people panic and complains a lot during the bear market. Rather they should treat this as an opportunity to grab more coins. Bear markets are just market cooldowns which are caused due to the big bulls manipulating the market. So if you are a person who has done long term investments, then you shouldn’t panic at all. Bear market is the beginning of a bull run, so as soon as a bear market ends, be ready to see price hike in all the coins. OP’s advice also delivering the same meaning.

So you are concluding the LUNA fall or scam was the reason of the bitcoin bear market? I don't agree with this. The bear market was already in effect and this LUNA drama acted as a nail in the coffin.

Secondly, if we see the price history of bitcoin from 2009, we will see that bitcoin always rises and gives the highest return on investment and lowest holding time. It is a maximum of four years we may have to hold and see another all time high bitcoin price.

The advice you gave to choose Bitcoin and implement it in the long term is not wrong, because Bitcoin has been proven to be good for more than ten years and many people already know about it. But for the case experienced by altcoins like Luna, I don't think it's worth taking it as a basic reference for other altcoins. Because other altcoins have different stories, developments, and support from Luna, there is no need to assume that cases like Luna will happen to other altcoins.

I agree with this, because it is very appropriate to choose Bitcoin and collect as much as possible if you want to feel the beauty in the future. But that will only happen when the price of Bitcoin is getting more and more expensive and the increase in Bitcoin can happen continuously without obstacles from other things such as inflation and war.

Yeah I totally suggested relatives who invested in Bitcoin to totally forget that their money exist. If we are in bear it means it will end one day. Especially Bitcoin as pioneer of these markets will always return and strike back from bottoms of ocean. This never changes. Altcoin investments are really vulnerable its undeniable but Bitcoin is safe and solid as stone. I plan to invest some point right before bull run to multiply amount of Bitcoin I hold. I am waiting for golden opportunity. I suggest same to everyone.

you cannot think that just doing hodl the person will have a guaranteed profit, I said this in the thread before this one, that a person can buy today for the price of 20,000$ and stay for 2 years and the price will be at 20,000$ and then the price will go up a lot and the person doesn't sell anything, but months later the price drops a lot to the point of falling below 20,000$, then that person would have stayed 2 or 3 years doing hodl and not see profit, on the contrary, there would be a loss, that's why you should having a good plan when it comes to making hodl in the long term, it's not just taking a loan and going to buy acryptocurrency and then being in harm's way and coming to complain here on the forum

for example:

investing in altcoins is a big loss, most old altcoins are losing value against bitcoin

You wont really be saying off these things if you've been here on this market for a while but when you are noob then  you would definitely saying most of these wrong perceptions and beliefs but on the time that you

had gained up knowledge and experience then you would definitely be able to tell the other side of things.When it comes to bear market then it is really a normal condition or trend on which a market does have.

Just like the rest been saying that this market cant really be called a market if we would be only seeing on direction of price movement which it would really be that common sense that,
the best time to purchase or buy is on the time where prices are declining or decreasing and not on that fomo moment.

That's true. Investing in altcoins are more risky compared to investing in Bitcoin, though it's not bad if you like to diversify. But you need to dig deeper in order to find a good coin, and unlikely to have the same fate as LUNA.

And it's never too late to accumulate specially now the price is still cheap. Investors who are used to seeing the price turning up and down are aware on what's the best thing to do in times the market is in bearish. When the bull season occur, investors who bought during cheap price will realize that it's worth the wait. Of course the risk is still there, so invest only the money that you can live without.

It is a brave thing to recommend to relatives to invest in bitcoin. Not everyone can morally easily survive a bear market. For me, a very good example was 2018, when many people, like you, thought they would get rich, but the price kept falling and people ended up with weak hands. If things were mentally easy, everyone would be rich now. But only a few managed to hold on to the next bull market. And those who are in a bear market no longer have confidence in cryptocurrencies. And no one knows when the reversal will come.

Bear market complainers are newbies buying bitcoin at high price and they are panicking because their investment has dropped more than 70%, 80% in value, they had never experienced bear season before so it was understandable to panic. But for us who have been through bear seasons before, we know that this is really the time to start buying and preparing for the coming bull season. The market will always exist two extremes, there will be winners and losers.

You are 100% right, since the price is low right now that means we still have a lot of time that we could end up buying and that means people should be going in right now before it’s too late. I know that a lot of people are afraid of the current price but that doesn't mean that they should stay away from it as much as possible, they should be getting in even closer if they are afraid.

The reality is that the "scary" prices are the real place when you should buy because when people are scared that means it’s at low and good price, when they are happy that means it's already too late and many already bought it. That’s the very distinctive difference between low and high prices.

This is one of the greatest ironies of this market, I see a lot of people always claiming that the secret to succeed in this market is to buy low and sell high, and yet when they are given the opportunity to buy at one of the lowest possible prices they can possible encounter for months they refuse to do it because they are afraid the price will go even lower, but that should not matter at all as we know the price of bitcoin will not only recover but it will surpass its previous ATH too.

That's because altcoins are not a single coin like btc but there are still alts that are trusted like btc such as eth, bnb, xrp (only to name a few). People shouldn't compare luna to other trusted alts because the people who created luna are not trusted even at the start. They only use the people and they make them believe that luna is a top coin but the truth is, it was a scam coin.

What is good about btc and the crypto market is that they are volatile and there are two cycles on here. One is for selling or the bull and one is more accumulating or the bear. Those who entered recently or haven't entered yet shouldn't think that they are late but they themselves can also buy at a cheaper price if they want to or as long as they can wait for the prices to drop.

Saying other people don't understand about bear market conditions is also not very good in my opinion, because there are some people who have bought before and have not made a profit. So they have to be patient because they may not have more other money to buy more on the next drop like what is happening right now in the market.

If you still want to make purchases for now because you still have more money, that's a very good thing even if you've bought before, but there's no need to conclude that other people don't understand this bear market.

The correct understanding is, most people can't really take advantage of a bear market to buy because they are waiting for the price to drop or the market to recover. That doesn't mean they don't have money, but they just don't have the guts and decision-making skills.

A few minutes ago, the price of bitcoin fell back to the level of $17.1K. If they are able to take advantage of this situation, then they will certainly benefit when the market recovers. In fact not everyone is brave, this is a fact.

Let me throw more light in cryptocurrency, because i believe that cryptocurrency during the bearish market or season every investor who are knowledgeable actually knows what's is obtainable, because i sense it as only duration or time an investor can make positive profit via investment, indecencies that you will purchase at a lower price and sell higher price, but what i want you to know is that, any long investment during bearish time supposed to be careful, because investing in altcoins you have to know exactly how supportive is the coin, because what luna did to investors should be a primary example of anyone investing in cryptocurrency.

At the core this is their main problem, there are certain moments in life in which you cannot delay to take a decision, you need to be resolute and take the risk whatever may come your way, and the price we saw yesterday is one of those examples, the price was very close to the 16k level and it was a perfect opportunity to enter the market, now the price is above 17k and it is still a very good entry point but many people will simply waste the opportunity to invest now as they are simply afraid of taking the wrong decision, but that fear will also stop them from taking the right decision as well.

Or they are afraid because they think that if they buy the price will go down even further, so they will lose again. So they don't take advantage of bear market, but they are more fearful.


Even further down, at $15k'ish, we have seen the lowest low. Majority says that the bottom is in when we touch $17,500, but we are all wrong it.

But we have a few bounce, in the last 24 hours, I've seen the price over $18k, and then it dive again to $17k-$17,300.

What do you mean buy some kind of crypto today and reap the heyday.

If that's the point, Yes, I've seen someone say that speculation is worth considering, basically we don't know which type of crypto will reap the next cycle of movement, other than Bitcoin, maybe I agree to hold some type of crypto that is lower in price today to reap the rewards the next day, if I'm lucky.

Maybe this can be a baseline.
We know Bitcoin is experiencing growth from year to year especially after the halving happened, I believe the current bear market will be the best moment for crypto users in the future, especially those who invest in several types of crypto that are of good value in the market.

It is a huge mistake for any investor to leave the opportunity to invest in the bear market that is still going on and start buying tokens at their highest levels. The price of most tokens is currently in a downtrend, but every investor, if he wants to invest in these bearish times, must keep his nerves and not be affected by market conditions, and not rush to choose a token without researching it, and he must stay away from panic and FUD so as not to sell at a loss, success in a bear market also depends on patience and the investor must have a long-term perspective and believe in his tokens and instead of leaving it idle he can do a stake for it and earn passive income.

Whether a decision is correct or not depends on many factors, for example even if the price of altcoins is very low I would not risk to buy a single one of them as I have no idea which one is going to disappear next, since we are seeing some of the most popular coins in the market to disappear almost overnight, however if we are talking about investing in bitcoin then this is the perfect moment to do it, as we know bitcoin is solid enough to resist this bear market.

You seem very totality for bitcoin and only bitcoin. That is something great which is actually understandable on my part. Obviously no one will blame you for your preference for which asset choice will be most profitable for you in the long run, but of course this will differ from each of us.

I have bitcoins, and I also have altcoins. I have 70% investment in bitcoin while the other 30% is in altcoin. This is a strategy I consider for long term investing because actually anything that is currently believed to be good can change overnight including bitcoin. Bitcoin and altcoin in fact both make gains and losses, but no one can blame you if your portfolio is only for bitcoin.

Not really, while almost all my investment in this market is in bitcoin I have some small holdings on ethereum, however I have no problems if other people decide to invest more heavily in altcoins, my problem is if they do it without understanding the consequences of doing so, this is because we have a lot of newbies which come to this market looking to become rich in a short amount of time, and for someone with that ambition their only choice is to invest in altcoins, but since they do not know what they are doing it is not rare for them to end up being scammed.

At the end of last September, I made a BTC purchase at the end of the month from 20% of my earnings, and this month is my third month keeping BTC in my wallet. I plan to do it consistently during a bear market.
for other cryptocurrencies, I have no interest in investing other than BTC, ETH, and BNB.
what happened with Dokwon and SBF made me even more uncomfortable and doubtful about Altcoins.
I have seen and felt a very long Bear Market a few times and finally Bullish again.

"Winning is for those who take risks"

I remember the days when we could collect lots of bitcoins from that faucet. But sadly, I used up most of the amount, especially when the bitcoin price increased in 2017 and left some in my wallet and I sold it again at the end of last year when the bitcoin price reached $69k. And now, the time to buy has come again and it's a great opportunity we should seize before things change. Let's hope it doesn't take us 3 years to see the price reach $100k or more ;D

And when the market is in a bear condition like it is now, many people have bought more to hold while waiting for the price to go up again.

It wouldn't be wrong if right now there are people who want to hold Bitcoin as long as possible or at least three years as you suggest, but when there are different conditions in the market before three years, I also believe there will be more people selling Bitcoin. Especially when he saw that there were more profits he got when he sold, and I think that is a very logical thing too because considering the profits and patience in storing Bitcoins, they are starting to run out.

But I'm a little less sure that times like the past or as you describe can be repeated again in Bitcoin, because the influence of some bad conditions as we've seen so far is the thing that can cause a stalled increase in any cryptocurrency including Bitcoin. I just hope that market conditions can improve as soon as possible so that Bitcoin can increase faster without having to wait long, because waiting too long also does not guarantee that you will get more profits even though you have felt this in the past.

It is funny how things change, I remember that back when I became a member of this forum I saw the amount of money people could get with faucets and I though those people were wasting their time as it was just dust, but now that I think about it if those people were constant on their efforts to claim from faucets and they kept holding their coins then it is likely they made some very good profits out of it, this shows how incredible the growth of bitcoin has been and how life-changing it can be as long as you are wiling to work hard to obtain some bitcoin.

In the market and especially during the time of bearish market, any decisions you want to take most be contradictory to your research or personal observation in the market, because i believe that cryptocurrency is something you most make sure that what ever you do for it's investment you be careful extremely, i believe that cryptocurrency is a very technical in investment, so you have to understand the concept first before your investment can start, because without observation you might end up in loss

DYOR is no longer very effective, I mean if you DYOR on FTX before, sure you think that you have made the decision, but when it collapses, then what happen to your own research? So now in this bear market, it's very hard to look at where to really invest our money, or what project will not collapse because the people that supposed to handle it didn't do their due diligence. So even if we understand the concept and educate our self, it is not not enough to save us from this kind of collapse like Terra Luna or FTX or whoever is next in the future.

I think people that invest in FTX do also did their research and found out that the exchange is legit but they forgot the dangers of storing funds inside a centralized exchange. We always been told that not your keys not your coins so why they didn't follow it? They lose but it was their fault on why it happened. Like they say, anything is possible in crypto.

Once again it was proven because who would have taught that once a trusted exchange, have turned into a fraud? This was the same to luna coin and others. Sometimes DYOR cant give us a guarantee that we will be safe forever. If it's our time to lose, we will always lose. We should accept that and move on.

During a bearish market many challenges do face investors and if tgey are not careful of investment of cryptocurrency they will fall into the victim of wrong investment of cryptocurrency, so i believe that cryptocurrency investment many people are being very careful, but their is one important thing in cryptocurrency, during the bearish market two things are being involved into the market, because it's either you benefit or you lose due to your understanding over cryptocurrency.

The main deal with a bear market that lasts this long is durability, don't get focused on the price for November or December, be sure to last the course for whole years if you can at all.  If people can stay interested and involved over the years they'll do far better, none of us can say when the bottom is now or next Feb or we take the entirety of next year before the gloom lifts.  Its really a test of patience, I can see a second leg to the economic fall out so I don't know if that will also play out in crypto or not tbh.

Patience + Emotion handling + Stick with your plans + Discipline

These are the traits or behavior which you would really be needing on handling up yourself on a very long bear market which you cant really be able to determine
This is why you should really be mindful with these kind of traits and act according on what you had experienced.
Make up some steps which you do seem that it would really be that relevant for you to do so.Every step does have certain risk and you
should accept for whatever outcome it would happen.

The first thing and most important when we invest is to know the risk, do not just be tempted by the promise of a big profit even though there is a success story from others, and after we invest and lose then never blame anyone, as long as we are sure for profit then do the technique, And in my opinion Bitcoin is a simple investment, buying and then holding and waiting for profitable prices.

If we have experienced a difficult time like now we should not be surprised, the market drop is common because many reasons, and in my opinion the complicated is the issue of many exchanges that manipulate data so that when investors want to withdraw assets in the wallet then exchanges cannot carry out because of the funds stored used for the benefit of the exchanges.

That is the sad part of crypto investing , when there are good coin to put on we tend to buy shitcoin or scam coins but as we have known this  can happen yet we gamble our money.
what? 13 thousand percent ? what a ROI  ;D congrats in advance specially when the price hits 6 digits.


I will and forever be , buying bitcoin in my advantage is what i do since the start of my journey here though sometimes I am selling if badly needed.

Investing in Bitcoin does look simple, but the risks are not so simple that it is true as you say that everyone who invests must be able to understand how the risks are and how to do it well. Apart from that, if you want to keep investing in the long term to get more satisfying profits, then look at other assets that are also better even though they are not in the crypto space.

After all, investing in multiple directions can also be very profitable. Because when one of the investments that we make does not provide a profit, then we still have the opportunity to get a profit on another investment even though the profit can only cover the losses incurred from other investments, but in general we have not experienced a loss because we can immediately recover it through another investment.

Not to trivialize and generalize all potential Altcoins, but my mind says that other than Bitcoin, nothing else is a good investment. LUNA and FTX are just examples that further reinforce our thinking that Altcoins are not as hedge investments as Bitcoin.
If someone says investing in Bitcoin is also full of risks, then that is also true. Investing in Bitcoin is not short term, but long term.

This is not the first time I hear this and I think the main reason why people can say this is because btc is already running over 13 years I think if I am not mistaken. There is no other crypto that have run that long and still didn't turned into a scam. I think it's safe to say that the founder of btc is not corrupt and greedy just like the other coin developers out there.

The rumours about satoshi hodling thousands of btc and then plans to sell it might be fake. He never want to make a profit but he only want to help the people to have some freedom and have a control of their money. Not just btc but all cryptos have a risk but it can be lessened out the more the knowledge and experience we obtained.

This is still an old story and there is no clarity until now because we don't even know that this is true or false, moreover this is only a handful of information that is still floating with various speculations that exist.
But on the other hand, we also cannot fully believe or completely do not believe in something like this because all possibilities are still there and all we have to do is continue to be here carefully, so in my opinion this is enough.

The fact the this industry doesn't even know his true identify, falsifies this idea. The market value of cryptos are solely depending with the demand from the community. With that being said, the risk itself is how will the interest of people towards this technology, change. It could either be for the better or the opposite, as years are going by. More countries are now adopting this industry as a mode of payment but demand is still the same. The reason behind this is market volatility. Most of the people are more interested with using this technology as an asset and no longer as a currency. Therefore, the breakthrough would rely on how will this industry be accepted in the future.

Going back with handling bearish market, an investor is free to sell if he really chooses to. We have different circumstances and those who are selling simply cannot endure the market behavior, and that is just valid. But to those who can, no matter how many times you heard it, avoid selling. Losses are temporary as long as you won't liquidate your assets which should be enough for you to be firm on downtimes.

I think that if Satoshi really was real or alive, as there is a high probability that he would be Hal Feeney, we would probably notice some movement of these huge sums. But that hasn't happened for a very long time. Accordingly, I personally think that these bitcoins are lost forever and can be ignored in the total issue. As for risk, any financial investment carries risk. Of course, cryptocurrencies are an increased risk, but now it is minimal.

We keep facing the risk here forever and are never taught it will change the view of Bitcoin. Whatever the real name of Satoshi or whether he is still alive or not, I would say that he never imagine this thing will come and will happen to the market. If people could never understand and are unable to manage themselves, we have no surprise that many still suffer the consequences.

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Be sure that we are ready enough before coming in here because nothing could save us but just ourselves. We know the risk already and the behavior of the market so we already have planned for what we gonna do next.

Today I have a reserve of money for me to invest in crypto to continue increasing my investment assets. While the market is still very supportive of my desire to acquire the asset at a low price, given the other downside possibilities, I am inclined to think about DCA.

Regardless of whatever issues are discussed, Luna or FTX then I think we really have to look at the best opportunities in the market where bitcoin is still good enough to be considered a long term investment asset. I don't want to get bogged down in that situation, so my focus now is to invest and buy as much as I can afford.

This ROI is for those who bought BTC when it is very cheap.  You cannot say that to those investors who invested when Bitcoin is on its ATH or close to its ATH.  It should be price growth not ROI.  Anyway, I agree that Bitcoin can still explode, since its history has recorded 3 times of price explosion in its entire market history.  So it is best to accumulate Bitcoin at the current market situation because it won't be that long before we find Bitcoin started to recover again, we might missed out on the biggest discount sales of Bitcoin this cycle.

It's really going to be very difficult for the majority of us, but I guess sooner or later we will forget about the Luna or the FTX issue in our ecosystem.

Good for you if you can continue to increase your position thru DCA because that is the best strategy for bitcoin, buy cheap month after month and then hold.

We just have the desire and look for long term, it will be a challenge but if we have been in this position before, it will be easy because what we are looking is the end goal, - to make a huge profit in the next bull run of 2025.

But of course you should always set out those risk management and dont really have that gambler like mind when it comes to investment even though we do speak about Bitcoin.There's no assurance that everything

would come or would happen on whats into your plan.Bear markets is really just on the opposite of bull where it is really just normal that we do really have these kind of cycles which is something that cant really

be avoided.Thing here is that you do know on how to ride up with the waves and be wise on when you would be buying and be wise on when you would be selling.It is really a common reaction
for people who had been dealing with this unpredictable market on being that emotional due to these movements.

While I appreciate the OP, I also wanted to look at this from a different angle. I am a bitcoin holder/fan yet human's life is not all about bitcoin. So my advice concerning bearish market is try to appreciate other things in life, regardless whether they are small or big, like new friendships, hobbies, travel etc. Otherwise, the bearish market may become too stressful not only for a new but even for a seasoned investor...

That is exactly what I believe as well. He was one of the leading people and somehow the first one to connect with satoshi as well, making it a bit suspicious.

It could very well mean that he is not him because the first person would be too obvious so it would be like "why would he show himself as teh first person" at first, but then at the same time it is genius because it also shows that we wouldn't think he would be the one for the same reason and that could be a problem that we are having. I believe he was satoshi, or at the very least if satoshi was a group, he was the first one to oust himself while stay hidden, and unfortunately we will never know.

Yeah, but it's already given, I mean with the market so volatile, the risk is very high in crypto market.

One thing to consider is how your investments will be, long or short term? if you have answer this then you will know how to approach and you already set your mind on how discipline you will be. It takes the mind to learn so if we tell it to go long term and buy and hold and sell at bull run then everything will be ok or very easy and simple for us. But for those who are going to say that they are here for short term, then the strategy and mindset will be different.

A centralized based altcoin will never survive , they will always fail and explode as something shameful into crypto space as a whole , that time ... the bear started and it's the greatest time to grab opportunity to get some more bitcoin at a huge discounted price.

As long as you stick into bitcoin vision which it's for the better financial system , you are in a safe place no matter it's bearish or bullish.

I see you are not consistent. After you say this, you are no longer writing.

Investing in crypto will certainly have its ups and downs. Sometimes we can make bigger profits, there are also sudden losses. If we want to invest in crypto, we have to think for the long term. We should be able to make Bitcoin's growth record a guide in our next investment. But in this case we must be able to choose the right asset before investing. Not all crypto will grow like Bitcoin. A lot of crypto is dead even though it was the best part before.

The right one is Bitcoin and so far I don't think there is another crypto that is more appropriate if it is to be invested in the long term. That's why the initiative to choose Bitcoin as a long-term investment in my opinion is very appropriate and very good, because profit is the target of every investment and it is always obtained by those who are patient in investing.

For new cryptos or those other than Bitcoin I don't think you need to invest in the long term and if you like crypto other than Bitcoin, try to just trade with it on a daily basis because other cryptos are not suitable for long term investment.

If talking about long-term investment, I also only invest in bitcoin and should not invest in altcoins even though it is a good project, Luna and FTT are also considered as two potential projects until collapse.

I also like to invest in altcoins as it sometimes gives bigger returns than bitcoin, but it is only suitable for the short term, and it is advisable to invest in altcoins only during the bull season, not now. The bear market is not over yet, and there is no guarantee that the rest of the altcoins will not crash, so bitcoin is safer.

Not always in the long run you will make a profit. It is very easy to take losses, which most often happens. For most coins are garbage, which can bring profit in the initial stages, but in the long run will be unprofitable for their investors. This rule that in the long run the coin will be profitable only works for btc. So far. The rest, even like eth, are still in doubt, because it is not known what will happen to this one in a year or two. Your example from luna is a confirmation of this. But you are absolutely right about one thing, that if you look at many years ahead, then the current bear markets can be neglected, because bitcoin will still wait for the bullish growth, which will demonstrate the correctness of your investments in it.

People live in doubt because of the volatility of the market. Yes, it was really hard to find a sustainable project where profits keep on flowing because most of the projects now are just good at the beginning but they turn into scams later. Very unfortunate and it cost a lot, the trust is really affected and people easily got worried when hearing about scam issues. That is why it is not surprising that many investors are selling their coins during the bear market, they just look for their security rather than taking more risks upon holding long.

Yes of course, If lucky is a sentence where we doubt it because we don't know what crypto will become legit later, in the end, the concept of gambling is listed here.
If you have chosen one or two of the cryptos that you take as a place to invest, make sure you only use a small portion of the investment funds you have, because still we have to be careful in crypto, don't be too tempted by abnormal returns or don't be too greedy against something uncertain because it will harm your portfolio, and also make sure you are ready to lose it.

When it's a bear market, the best thing is to reduce online time and check prices once a week, there are no big changes when a bear market occurs and like the previous trend that a bear market can occur for more than a year and we'll see again in 2023 or to be precise in the middle of Q1.

Yep, maybe this is good because if you continue to pay attention to price movements continuously it will cause stress if prices continue to stagnate or without results or even make a loss.
But checking once a week or month is recommended for investors who hold bitcoin, why is that? because those who hold bitcoin are safe even though they experience extreme declines, but it's different from people who invest in altcoins, they have to interact with news and prices every day especially if they use large enough funds, which will make someone worried about their money.
So for bearish times like this, Bitcoin is the most appropriate to buy.

Could be, but if you are somewhat battle tested, I mean you have been in the market and has experienced the last bear market, you won't be affected by the price change. Bear market build a lot of good and strong holders. So with that, even if you look at the price every minute, I guess you won't be affected because you have your long term goals.

Maybe this advice is best for those who are new in the market, not sure what to look or when to check the price and then panic.

But believed me, if you passed this bear market, then nothing can affect you even if there is a significant drop in prices.

Agree to that, experienced builds strong understanding and huge trust to the industry that you are into, with those bear market that tested experienced traders, you might have that decision to keep buying and not be bothered to check the value as you understand that you needed to take advantage of this current situation to make sure that you can bag more while waiting for the bull run.

Different people do have different takes regarding to this situation, but like what you said, strong nerve to continue to hold and not being bothered with the continuous downfall.

Not every person who says it will take any time is only like that.   
The bear market is not an opportunity to get profit, and when the market moves to where it is, the market has shifted from a downward trajectory and not in a good direction.

Some novice for cryptocurrency investment likely to invest in bitcoin when the price is higher and expecting that since Bitcoin price is having positive in the market its the best time to purchase bitcoin for investment, but I stand to tell everyone that both purchasing bitcoin during the bearish and bullish market or season is good, but it depends on the duration of your investment, but I normal proportion or conditions, its advisable that you purchase bitcoin during the bearish against the bullrun, when you purchase low and bullrun meet up your investment, its obvious that you will make a sufficient profit, so therefore, I believe that no condemnation of investing in bitcoin during the bearish because its the best time to invest.

Many people predict that the increase at the beginning of this year is a trap because the market will experience a difficult period again, if this happens of course we must be optimistic and don't panic, a bear market will occur and often repeat itself, but if we can be patient and take advantage of opportunities to buy then we can get big profit.

According to the data from CoinMarketCap, there are more than 23,000 cryptocurrencies on the market so far, most of which have very low trading volume and acceptance, and there will have many scam projects. But Bitcoin is exceptional from all these cryptocurrencies. Which is at the leading position worldwide.

Bitcoin is favorite among investors for several reasons one of them is its market capitalization. Bitcoin has larger market capitalization than any other currency and have much liquidity, allowing it to be easily bought and sold without significantly affecting the price. Currently, there are various initiatives based on Bitcoin. Some countries have already recognized Bitcoin as a legal currency. As a result Bitcoin is now a naturally high demand cryptocurrency. But before investing here an investor must give importance to the timing. This must be a scheme for rich people who can hold bitcoins for a long period of time.

Since cryptocurrency is highly volatile, its ups and downs should be taken with ease. Those who simply accept the bearish and hold on to the bullish period will be the successful. Just remember that bearish market is the source of energy for bullish market.

Here you use the words "continue to collect crypto", I will make it simpler by "continue to collect Bitcoin". Bitcoin has become the most popular investment medium among other cryptos and when Bitcoin made it to the moon to achieve ATH of all time, some of the other cryptos didn't even have a significant impact from the increase experienced by Bitcoin.
In terms of investing in crypto assets, I prefer to use the portfolio management method to achieve investment goals, of course Bitcoin is my top choice, the rest is filled with other cryptos that have been tested on the market.

Bitcoin is a digital currency that is perfectly work online as a means of payment and also trading and investment as it applies, Bitcoin is an asset which has more opportunities to invest now, for a future usage. Bitcoin is exceptional from all these cryptocurrencies. Which is at the leading position worldwide. And the most popular investment medium among other cryptos. But if we can be patient and take advantage of opportunities to buy then we can get big profit. The price of bitcoin always do fall and rising. Only the people that hold for long term regain the price of the market.

Totally depends on what you've been holding because there are coins which are supposed to be dumped and forgotten or simply would be needing to cut lose but there are ones which are really that worth on holding on. This is why you should really be that wise when it comes to choosing on what assets or coins you've been dealing with and on the time that you would be having negatives on some good coins, then it would really be just a paper loss. It wont be realized as long you wont sell completely and this is where you would be ending up on being a holder if in case the price wont really be recovering.

Bear market is a really common cycle on this market on which it would really be indeed teaching up those people who arent aware on what it is and be realizing that this market cant really be just shooting up
its price into the moon and wont really be having any pullbacks or corrections which is really that very wrong. If you are that aware on what you're doing then
you do know on how to handle up yourself into this very volatile market.

The bear market is not over because the price is hard to go up or pass $30k, the best thing for us to do right now is to be patient and wait, we have to be sure that a new ATH will happen again, according to predictions of many new ATH will happen in 2024 when halving day occurs .

That's true and most members in this forum know about phenomena like FOMO or Panic Sell, while many newbies don't. But don't overestimate our understanding or underestimate theirs neither: buying in a bear market requires a really great dose of patience that most people who invest in cryptocurrencies don't have. Not all of us have strong hands to hodl for several years without the certainty that another good cicle will come.

Usually newbies simply want to make fast and easy money, and this only happens during a FOMO phase. We all know how this ends: people is too greedy and holds for too long, and after the last ATH the price collapses and they get trapped. But this is the only (very risky) way to make the fast profits that many people is looking for.

There are many coins that will never reach their all-time high again and in the past few years the only few coins that have do tremendously well than bitcoin is BNB and Ethereum, I mean they keep making new all time high, but majority of the big projects like Cardano never surpass their old all time high again.

This makes Bitcoin the true long-term hold winner, right from the beginning Bitcoin has always made a new all-time high and this has proven that Bitcoin is the best long-term investment that anyone can get into.

To make big money out of altcoins right now you have to abandon all the old projects in crypto space that have tasted a bullrun and focus on new projects that are just getting released right now.

I think there are like 40 projects on the market, rest are beyond my scope and would never invest. People who invest out of top 40 projects are people who are taking risks that are not worthy and shouldn't do that. I have seen people invest into projects that are not even in top 1000, that is a stupid move and should be avoided if you could and yet they still did it for some reason, no idea why they did that. Long story short, bitcoin is something I can agree with, that is the best coin and will stay as the best coin and will do as well as hoped for.

People who are acting as if bitcoin will not make them "enough" money do not realize that there are people who got rich off stocks, if stocks can go up that much, bitcoin can go up even more without a doubt, there is still enough potential left.

When we regret not buying at a cheap price then when the bear market is a good opportunity to buy, the advantage of a decentralized system is that when there is a bear we can buy more and cheaply, don't ever think that the highest price that occurs will not go down because of things that Usually the price sometimes goes down.

Yes, the 3 top crypto assets never failed the long term investors, as the value continue to reached a new high when the strong bull pump up and create a good rally, which really favoring those who bougth during the bear season and hold till the new bull come back and push the price up.


No doubt and until now it will stay as top asset especially if you have decent amount of capital invest, waiting is a good way to maximize your potential benefits.


You need to do a good research to find the new asset to buy and hold, make sure that you are ready and willing to take the risk.

We cant really say that its a stupid move just because they didnt go into much less risky side on investing on Bitcoin or focusing into it since they've been risking out their money into something much lower rank

then it doesnt mean that they arent aware on what they are doing.It is really just that there are people who could really make out that kind of risks taking because we do know that earning something more than
x2 could really be that possible specially into those low ranking coins specially if its been pumped up by some whale then it would potentially giving out that kind of probability and this is where they would be
hoping for and this is where they would be trying to achieve it out.

This is why we do make out this kind of choice because, who doesnt really want to get that huge multiplier? This is where people who would be diving into such decision and really
just crossing out their fingers for it to hit the right spot.

I don't understand what you are trying to explain. However, it is true that the bearish season is a good time to buy Bitcoin or altcoins because the prices of crypto coins are at low rates. Some crypto coins even created ATL (all-time low) during the bearish season, which means the lowest price ever for those coins. It is very unfortunate if we don't take advantage to collect many crypto coins in this bearish season. But sometimes we have a problem with our funds, we can't buy many crypto coins if we have limited funds only.

By the way, basically, the price of crypto coins is unpredictable. There is no guarantee that the price will always rise up or it may drop again in the future. So, always use safe money to minimize the opportunity for big losses.

Depends on the alternative coin you bought. Not all altcoins survive the bear market that follows the bull market.  Many projects fail because they lack a solid team and an active community that will continue to show their support for the project.

As it always stands in the crypto space, the best long-term investment plan to have is bitcoin. Having altcoins as a long-term investment plan is very risky and it can only be good in having them for short-term profits. If you checked on CMC, many of the altcoin that existed few years, are no way to be found in price in today's crypto market

Coins that survive in a bear market situation have the potential to be quite good in other respects they have strong market capitalization and a strong community and the concept of the project is already running or has been adopted by other projects. Indeed, it all depends on each other's choices, but I believe more that a bear market situation is something for us to examine the toughness of a coin in that situation.

No doubt many coins have experienced a sharp decline because they do not have a strong community or other things, their products cannot compete with other projects.  Other than that I think btc is a special thing to have in any crypto person's portfolio.

Survival of the fittest and this one does indicate on projects which does have solid community which even if the worst bear market hits, it cant really be totally die and pass out on this market.

We cant really be just having a bull market or keep on rising kind of market because we know on how market works and what are those typical movement we could see or those cycles which we do have.
Therefore, on the time that you had stepped your foot into this market then be prepared on what are the things that you would encounter or able to experience along the way.

Just dont make yourself that get impulsive on what ever price volatility you would be able to step in. Bear markets is normal or something that the price is on the floor because
this is the time on which after all those people had been taking out their profits when that bull run hits. It do always comes after.

You are right people loss attention on crypto when bear market begin and when bull market begin people will become very agresive in buying, there are investors that is very hard headed and sometimes i did not understand them, it is maybe because the market is very unstable and very hard to understand also and it leads everyone to loss the end only one thing i can say never invest during bull market you need to have a big capital unlike when we buy on bear season we only need small capital to get big amount of coins.

Actually, to buy is not only about taking advantage of the bear market, but there are other things that need to be known even though it is difficult because often the regret is not because they did not buy in the bear market, but because they cannot know the percentage of the bear market itself so the feeling of regret it may arise because they do not buy at the lowest price.

Likewise, when someone who wants to sell it after buying in a bear market, he also will not know what percentage of the increase will occur so that even those who sell can experience regret when he sees a high increase starting to occur but he has already released his assets into the market.

For me for long term investment is Bitcoin because bitcoin is the most established and stable and this is my handle to be a good choice for long term investment. Therefore, if you want to reap good results for the future, buy bitcoin little by little instead of buying altcoins which may not necessarily make you good in the future.

For example, as you said about LUNA, which has bankrupted investors even though they have a strong development team and innovative products, and have a large and loyal community that supports the project but can go bankrupt too. It's true that it doesn't mean that all altcoins will have the same fate but for me for long term investment it remains the right choice collecting as many bitcoins as possible.

this one is the most important thing, bearish market is such a good opportunity for making an investment indeed but that doesn't mean every coin will just have some rally when the bullrun comes.
many coins right now that might have lost its value could easily vanish into thin air if they don't have enough or even sufficient trading volume, getting delisted from exchange only spells that these coins are done for and in bearish there are many that got delisted.
so it's always essential in choosing best of best coin out there for investment not just investing in every coin you see that has lose majority of their value, usually investing in coin that is ranked 100 and up is good way to know that your investment not gonna be vanishing into thin air.

If talking about the long term, bitcoin is the safest, it is indisputable. But if your goal is profit, don't be too rigid to focus solely on bitcoin and ignore other opportunities with altcoins. In the long term, you can also consider ETH, it's not more secure than bitcoin, but long-term holding is not bad either. If I remember correctly, it was created in 2013 and is by far the top altcoin, which is enough to prove that long-term holdings are also very good and its returns outperform those of bitcoin these days. Many people are crazy about bitcoin to the point of forgetting about the opportunities with altcoins, although there is nothing wrong with being loyal to bitcoin, and everyone has a different investment perspective.

I think they always have no patience when investing in crypto, actually the problem of a bear market or bull market is something that usually happens in crypto and will continue to repeat things like this. because impatience will obviously cause losses to occur by taking actions that don't really need to be done but are done, so it's not surprising that many experience this. Indeed, everyone hopes to buy during a bear market, not during a bull market, because at that time the price is falling. but it can be meaningless if you don't have the patience to wait for the market to reach its peak, only to want to sell and buy again when the market drops.

It's true. An investor has to look the coin's history he is buying, what the coin proposes to do or to solve on practice, who the adopters are, if there is any important platform or sponsor behind it, total supply, how the rewards are distributed on the network and if there are high price peaks between highs and lows (what would mean it's a heavily manipulated cryptocurrency).

Moreover, a cheap coin isn't always synonym of a good deal. There are many cryptos you can acquire for few satoshis of BTC each, but that are already dead and won't recover, doesn't matter how magnificent the next bull run is going to be!

People should really be stopping this kind of idea or things that they do have in mind on where they would really be that considering on putting up some funds on shit coins and believing that they could earn x100-1000x
with their investment.Well there are really projects could really still able to give out that kind of possibility but hitting the right spot isnt something that you could easily pull off and usually people do really
end up on on which they are really diving any single new projects in the market and having those kind of impressions that this one could make them rich.

If you are really that a certain investor who do have this kind of mindset then you would be likely losing up lots of funds just because you would really be keeping on searching or you would really be that
doesnt really like to miss out every single coin. We should really be that sensible in towards your investment decisions if you dont like on getting being wrekt up.

that is wrong belief mate, because people are more giving attention when there is a losing price because we are waiting for the perfect timing to buy again.
maybe you wanted to say is that people lose buying chances , and that is not about attention because Pump or Dump people are aware and yes people are   giving attentions.

Bear market is a good opportunity to buy more, if we have known about bitcoin for at least 4 years then we will understand that the price pattern will go up every 4 years, if we dare to buy during a bear market then it is a good opportunity to buy because you can get cheap price.

The 4-year cycle is not too strange for many investors, but it seems that people don't want to wait and they just want to get rich quickly from bitcoin. If you notice, most of the discussion about bitcoin price on the forum, most expect bitcoin to recover quickly, even many people believe bitcoin will hit ATH this year, but there is no basis for those predictions. If we all accept the facts and be patient with the market, then obviously, this is the golden time to accumulate bitcoin, not sit there daydreaming about the impossible.

Correct. many hope that a miracle will come quickly, even though if we see that if the selling continues, the resistance wall will not be broken. my mind will have to wait for the whales or institutions to intervene for this where it is said that BTC users have grown and are large and I agree that this is the golden time to accumulate bitcoin as you said but the progress seems different.

Besides having the courage to buy in a bear market, everyone who wants to buy in a bear market must also have sufficient capital to be able to get a bigger profit because if you only buy in small quantities, the profit will not be much. So in terms of taking advantage of the bear market moment, it does not only include one's courage, but anyone who wants to buy again at that moment must provide other capital as well so that the profits obtained will also be very balanced with the capital they use.

Precisely! you should have a decent amount to allocate for this investment if you think that it's perfect timing to collect those cheap assets that currently experiencing downfall, with a good amount of capital the potential profits will be bigger, but always do your diligence to research and study the market movement before deciding, there's time that we already anticipate that it's already the down but it can go and slide for more, you need to use that spare money so you can keep your asset as it is without being affected of more dump to happen.

You are correct, mate. Quite a lot of people who have been taking advantage of the Bitcoin bear market have definitely secured a good fraction or a good number of Bitcoin, which became possible because they understood the best way to invest in Bitcoin. Not like many people who consider themselves to be very late to Bitcoin, as such they feel discouraged to get involved in Bitcoin purchases, but rather they chose some shitcoin coins because of the lower price, and they feel they can easily buy those coins and make some 100x profit. They also fail to realize that altcoins are not seasonal like Bitcoin; they don't have a bear or bull market. What they have is the opposite of a bear and bull market, called a pump and dump. If you buy and get lucky that the token was pumped before you can make any profit, otherwise your investment is wasted. When someone steadily buy Bitcoin and it accumulates gradually even before they realize it, they will have a large profit during the bull market.

It seems that if their goal is to get rich quick in the world of cryptocurrencies they will fail when they cannot control their ambitions, actually in the current situation it is better for them to control and at least make purchases to add to their assets, because in the future they will get more than they expected , because Bitcoin will definitely remain bullish in its time.

The bear market is still not over and makes us have to be more realistic, today the market dropped again around 2% and made many people's predictions that the price will fall below $ 25k become more real, we have nothing to do but be patient and wait for the market situation to improve again if we want to sell and profit.

Investments that are carried out with reserve capital will be saved more when an investor faces a bad situation such as a decline in prices in the market, because the owner of the investment will not feel panicked by a downturn because he does not use his daily capital to invest so he can keep the investment well until see the best conditions in the market. Because every investor always targets quite a lot of profit in the long term with a more logical time scale.

I do not deny what you say and it is true whoever he is, whether an investor or other concept, is always aiming for quite a lot of profit in the long term with a more logical time scale in investing. however, if you look at market trends such as current conditions, short patterns are highly recommended. This pattern is strongly supported by several major events at the moment which make sellers or individuals still pessimistic in the market and the direction is back to the bearish trend. yes, this is temporary in nature, maybe used for this week only if it is effective, so continue while waiting for bullish momentum.

Well, that might not be entirely wrong since the market mostly consists of small and mid-level investors and all these investors have either bought already when the price was pretty high and they thought it won't dip more or have bought just recently and now if the price drops more, these investors become more concerned about the market than anyone.

One more thing is that there is basically no perfect time for buying Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency. You will probably only miss out on the best buying positions if you simply keep waiting for the right or perfect time.

I don't really understand the meaning of the daily capital that you mentioned in the post, but I agree that an investment budget should be a budget that is free from a daily use plan to make ends meet. Reserve fund or savings fund are two budgets worth investing in compared to the money you still need each day. Investment is for long-term plans, so using savings or reserve funds should be safer in the face of price fluctuations.

For me bitcoin is one of the long term investment assets, but if you expect returns in a shorter time frame then pay attention to how the price cycle works. There is a profitable cycle between 1 year before the halving and 1 year after the halving, so if you understand it correctly you will get return from it.

Expect returns in a shorter period of time then use the Scalping or day trading trading method. But it must be done quickly with a time frame of under 5 minutes.
But this requires high volatility as it takes advantage of rapid price fluctuations. If you only rely on Bitcoin, price movements will not be fast, unless Bitcoin is in a good trend.
Bitcoin is indeed more suitable to be used as a long-term investment only. and now could be a good time to start buying and holding bitcoins.

Is this OP still alive in the forum? Because the last active Date was October 24, 2022. And he registered on that the same October 21, 2022. And he has done only 7 post. Probably he is busy with office works that he has no time to come to the forum or the forum rules has fished him out.well it is a good advice for the newbies who are just joining the system. Acquiring bitcoin in the bear market is the best and you can sell it out in the bull market.

We must be always realistic to determine our goal/target whether it is in a bearish or bullish market, mate. We Shouldn't be too greedy and set unrealistic targets to reach, it may end up with losses. Regarding the current price, it still survives above $26k and seems to increase a bit more. Even if it drops to $25k, I think we shouldn't be worried because it is probably temporary only. Instead, we should be happy since we have another chance to buy Bitcoin at a cheaper price. Just wait for the next month, I assume there will be a green market again in the next month. So, just be patient and keep more buying!  ;)

Lol, he could be just one of the statistics that just created an account here and then left, and he is probably part of  Forum Menbership- 3.5m registered only 56k members survived?..... Why? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5453521.0), by @Igebotz.


I'm on the different side here, if there will be huge movement, it will come to average joe like you and me, it's not from the whales per se. As far as I understand, whales in the market is already set, what we just here is that they are just constantly moving their BTC to a wallet that is safe. And with that, if we will see a massive run, then it's us that is moving the market.

Nevertheless, I will agree with the notion that it is still a period of accumulation. Meaning even though the price is $26k and it could be expensive for the majority of us, we can still buy and save and just HODL. We can used the old strategy of DCA when trying to buy Bitcoin.

We still have a year to go, and maybe in the next bull run, a conservative $100k could be the price next and the new all time high will be big and obviously there will be profits for us. But it should start now, continue to accumulate as much as we can. It doesn't mean whole BTC per se, it might be just a couple of sats here and there. The game plan is we should go for long in Bitcoin.

Cryptocurency isn't like a get rich quick market, those who think they can get rich quick gets destroyed in market. If you chase after the hype, it'll only end badly for you because we have different trends in the cryptocurency market and they shift from time to time

We can only get rich be investing for very long term and that's not just for the 4 year cycle of the market. You should hold more than a decade so when you sell, you sell your assets with big profits. Bitcoin is very bullish in the long view as the price is going to be high.

All markets will come and go so we shouldn't be scared of the bear market because it won't last forever. We should use this opportunity to buy more Bitcoin and hold because soon we'll be out of the bear market and the bull market will begin.

Yes, if you have that certain perceptions and you are more willing to wait and learn the process, the chance of getting decent benefits is good but if you think that you can take the advantage of this certain market fall, the chance of getting trick and being stuck is also possible, losing out of fear will eventually triggered your investment.

You will find yourself losing instead of earning from this venue of investment. Be very vigilant and be careful with your decisions.

So far I don't expect fast returns on bitcoins because I have a long term investment plan. I think collecting as many bitcoins as we can afford is best given the current market conditions which tend to be sideways, but I also agree one can take advantage of short term price volatility for quick profits especially if they are good at trading.

Day trading or scalping can be used if you are able to control yourself in a very volatile market. The time frame must be considered in the trading plan, but this strategy can also allow traders to lose money if they are not experts.

Perfect timing can come rarely so yeah why not? But we shouldn't rely only on those times since we can miss a lot of opportunities as investing can still be done even if the price does not dip heavily. What we are going to look for instead is how high can the coin go. There are so many cryptos in this market already and it might confuse us, so again your suggestion of making a research does make sense to know if which of these coins are truly worthy to invest in.

Studying the market might still be needed because a good coin is still subjected to falls other than the increases and there are so many factors which can affect the market of crypto so make sure to identify them. Spare money or not, we can still be affected by the market movements. The best way to be immune with it is to leave your investments for a while.

Thanks to the high volatility of the market, it can be said that cryptocurrencies are a quick money market, but to get rich quickly, we also need to pay a very high price. The higher the return, the higher the risk.


The market is only 14 years old and has already made many people rich, holding bitcoin for the long term is good, but not necessarily holding for a decade, as you say. That's a very long period of time and I don't think many people will do it.


In the end, I agree with you. I even get excited when the bear market lasts because I have enough time to accumulate everything on the cheap. Once we invest in cryptocurrency and fear the bear market, we will never succeed.

Bitcoin's Long-Term Performance,Bitcoin has indeed been a successful long-term investment for many individuals. It has shown resilience and has gained mainstream recognition as the first and largest cryptocurrency. Its historical performance and market dominance make it an attractive option for investors seeking stability and a store of value.

I guess you are also correct from that part where even good coin can still fall as the market condition mostly affects how investors and traders react, and knowing that there are whales who can also influence the market. You need to make sure about your investment and how willing you are to go deep if ever that the market will not favor your side and your investment amount slowly decreasing it's a matter of how you will handle those kinds of situations when using spare money or allocated money for this business.

No one forced us to buy a full one bitcoin, so it can't be called expensive when we are at $26k. If you invest a large amount, you will get a more significant profit, if you invest a small amount, you will also receive a return corresponding to your capital. I mean, ROI will be the same if we buy at the same price and sell at the same price.
So let's invest what we can, and get rid of the idea that we invest 10k$ but want to get the same return as investors 1 million or 2 million dollars. It is because of that mindset that many newbies refuse to invest in bitcoin and go to altcoins and lose everything.

I think you should specifically say invest in Bitcoin rather than "crypto." When you generalize it to crypto, that means you are not talking about one coin or token alone, which can give individuals the thought that all cryptocurrencies really have bear and bull seasons, as it's only mostly regarded for Bitcoin because so many altcoins are just dependent upon pump and dump. Although some of those cryptocurrencies can follow the trend of the Bitcoin bull season, after they get pumped, many will get dumped, and the price can never recover again. But the Bitcoin bear market is certain, as is its bull market too, but not for so many other cryptocurrencies.

Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺

This may serve as reminder and advise for all crypto investors that the need to earn is the need to understand the waiting .
there is no easy money mate and yeah we all must understand that because if not? then best to not engage in crypto ever.
this is a market when we need to be waiting and treat our investment to be long term profiting .

Indeed, your first Post has motivated many users in this Bitcointalk because there are many holders in the community who are seriously worry about the bearish market that is about to take a long time in the market like last year 2022. I believe, the bullish market is very close to holders because the price of Bitcoin has increased to $27,857 few hours ago which there is a hope that the price will hit $30,000 before the end of this month for people to get ready for massive bullish. I think, this year will be a better year to long term holders and short term holders based on some researchers that carry out their research early this year to advice crypto holders to exercise patience with their holding.

A bear market can happen at any time, and if we count from the highest position it has been happening for almost 2 years, this makes us have to be patient, selling at a low price is of course a bad choice because of losses, successful investors of course prefer to wait so they can get profits on target.

Did actually laughed on the image given or shown above.

Its true that there's no such thing about easy money because we know that this isnt how this market works or behaves on which it would really be just that right that it would really be having those bear 
markets or simply with those cycles which it would really be just that right that you should really be wary on what are the things that you should really do on times like this.
We cant really be having a market to have that single way or path to take on which it would really be just that normal that there's dips and ups afterwards.
This is why you should really be that wise on taking up decisions whether you would really be that buying or selling on a particular point. You should really be that
sensible on what are the things that you must do.

A common feature of trading market is that there will be both bearish and bullish and another common thing is that as everyone waits for bullish market. As it is expected so an investor must be patient to catch it. Those who can't accept the bearish will never succeed in the high bullish movement. It is said that success in crypto market requires patience and long-term planning. Some investors cannot survive in a bearish market. Many sell their assets during the period when patience is needed and reinvest when the market is bullish, so there is no profit except loss. It is best to prepare for long term investment by exploiting the bear market.

there are people waiting for the bearish to come and also some people don't want the bearish to come, it's only natural when there are people who have entered and people who want to enter.
as we have known for a long time that the movement of the Crypto market is quite volatile and the occurrence of decreases and also increases in a short and sharp time is not something new, therefore we must be prepared for this and the thing is that some people are impatient, they are those who fail and lose in crypto investments.
preparing for a long term investment is a very good suggestion, I totally agree and I have implemented a long term investment as we have known from the beginning Bitcoin in particular is always able to create its highest price sooner or later, and in the future I believe it will happen again.

You need to have that good understanding with how to handle both bull and bear season, with proper knowledge and good analysis you will be able to enjoy the possibility of gaining benefits, but just like how you describe those different perspectives inside the market that chance are different and opportunities depends from how you adopt and how you manifest your set up plans.

Trading is a venue where opportunities depend on how you adjust and how you plan with proper executions of your set positions.

You should really be that versatile when it comes to this manner specially if you are aware that this market isnt something that would be having that predictable movement of price.It would really be just that right that you should really be that prepared at least on about volatility. If you arent really that prepared then you would really be that impulsive when it comes into your plans on which it would really be easily be changed up on the time you do see that the price goes opposite on what you are speculating and anticipating.

This is why its really that ideal that you should really be that able to easily adjust on whatever conditions that you would be able to encounter.Dont make yourself that impulsive and dont make yourself
that too emotional because this would really be a disruptive behavior on which it would really be causing that kind of bad decisions which is something that really need to be stopped
or not really be that tolerated because it would really be bringing up that kind of possible negative impacts or effects.

Investors who want to wait for profits after buying and investing are investors who know that the assets they are buying are very good assets such as Bitcoin. Because there are also those who prefer to sell at a loss because their patience may be running low and what they are doing cannot be used as an example by novice investors.

And I believe that investors who dared to buy when the decline occurred last year and are still not selling at this time because they are still patiently waiting for a much higher price will also get bigger wins in the future, especially if they might already know about the halving that will happen to Bitcoin, so there is an opportunity for them to find greater profits through increasing the price of Bitcoin in the market.

Historically, the price of Bitcoin has always increased every 4 years, but for 2024-2025 I don't think there is a guarantee for the price of Bitcoin to increase.
For those who have had investments from 10 years ago, indeed they have obtained a very high ROI, but if you start now,
of course you really have to have a strategy if the Bitcoin price is different from what we expect.

Many analysts believe that the market will rise at the end of the year because it is close to the halving, if we have a lot of money then it's a good opportunity to continue buying, if we prefer daily trading then don't use all bitcoin, it's better to save 50% for long term investment or at least when the 2024 halving happens.

The problem with this is that these analysts will never be held accountable for what they say today, because when the assets you buy on the market don't go up as you expect, of course you can't blame these analysts either. So if you are quite optimistic about what the analysts have said, you don't need to feel sorry or blame anyone when the asset you bought doesn't increase in price as you expected today. So stay wise in taking and making decisions based on research and knowledge that you already have.

No one will be held accountable, not even those known personalities in bitcoin market wherein they have their own predictions. It's because this is a free market, meaning just like you and me, we can make our own predictions here in  the community, others might believed your, but for sure majority won't because they know that it's hard to predict where will be our next bull run and how big that bull run will be, except that you will hear some conservatives estimates, but there are individuals who think that $200k could be achieved. So it depends on how we look at those predictions. The most important thing is that we should be ready when the bull run comes.

Which analyst?  and on what basis do they make that prediction, and why should we believe them when we all know that bitcoin is unpredictable? if they could have known what would happen in advance, do you think they would take advantage of it or be stupid enough to share it with others openly?  Once you decide to invest in bitcoin, the market is always volatile and unpredictable.  You should do your own research and analysis instead of trusting those who know nothing about the market and consider themselves experts.

hahaha, I thought at first it is laughable not until I realized the main idea of the photo in which made me support and respect .
and of course , stay calm and hold because nothing will come for those who cannot keep the faith and of course risking their investments .
actually our teachers is our experiences as we have been here for years and yes I would rather make decision in keeping than just selling at losses.

Indeed, I agree with what you said. Perhaps this is the beauty of cryptocurrency, the fact that even if we say that each bitcoin, Ethereum, Bnb and others are expensive, we are not really obligated to buy 1 bitcoin because Bitcoin is really expensive if we buy it in full. , but it's not like that, but you can buy with the budget that you only have, even if it's only 10$, you can have bitcoin in your wallet, that's why others advise to do the DCA.

I think you are very committed that the market will be bullish towards the end of the year, especially because of the upcoming halving event. Yes. maybe I agree if the strategy you suggest is to use only 50% and diversify the rest. But I think the crypto market is very volatile and this happened in these 2 days. the market is mixed by issues that if you think it's impossible but possible. that's government.

These days a lot of altcoins are red like BNB, MATIC and so on, this is what makes bitcoin's performance difficult to rise, of course a domino effect will always appear when lots of altcoins drop, making bitcoin also corrected, and the best advice is to buy more.

Bear market is a common thing because of many factors, as we know that many people make crypto trading as the main job so that when they get profit even though they are small then they immediately sell, and this certainly makes prices in the market depressed or down.

it will always happen and you can't avoid it, and you are right that a bear market occurs because of many factors that cause it, the biggest element is obviously the release of assets that have been held, including what you said profits from trading and bounties. but precisely when there is a bear market is the time to keep buying, because prices will return to normal when many people start to buy.

Anyone who wants to profit from the market sells when it comes to an affordable price. In the periods when these sales are made at the same time, there is a serious decrease. The same goes for purchasing. This is how market mechanics work. The important thing here is that the price that is suitable for one person is not suitable for another. Or vice versa. As long as there is supply and demand, sometimes there will be more purchases and sometimes more sales.

What we need to pay attention to at this stage is that if we have entered a bear market, we should make our purchases accordingly.

There are those who sell with small or big profits in the market. This is personal preference. The market may be falling because of this, but it cannot be said that this is the only effect in the fall.

Price pressure in the market is always there as long as many people sell when they see profits in sight, so that crypto asset prices don't always stay at the best level. This is of course commonplace and not wrong to do because basically everyone is looking for profit in any way, but if you can, don't make crypto trading your main job. Because this can still be used as a side job, which means that everyone can make other jobs the main thing and make crypto trading work as a support.

This will always be the best opportunity for buyers in large quantities and usually investors also take advantage of the bear market moment to buy more. So when some traders release their assets because they see profits, of course other traders will also take advantage of these conditions in order to be able to take profits in the future. So it is clear that this is something that is very common in the market, especially in the crypto market.

Yes it's true that we all have to wait for the proper timing because if we don't wait then our sudden decision will put us in risky situations which can lead us to huge loss.

I think if price increases now then waiting more will be better because next year will be halving and if one wants to get profit then surely he will wait for the best. Making investment does not guarantees your profit but if you worked hard and take decision Wisley then there is a hope that your profit will be increase more as you wait more.

If you set a very high profit target, then you have to wait longer when the price goes up high or maybe you have to be an investor who buys at the lowest price. Basically any seasoned investor knows that in the market they will get two good cycles of buying and selling. If you know when to do it, then you should be able to get out at this time to enjoy the benefits.

But there's no harm in waiting a little longer for bitcoin to find its new ATH in the coming years. I'm willing to wait a bit longer, of course because I'm optimistic about the returns I'll get from bitcoin's potential upside after the halving.

Bear markets are generally a golden opportunity for investors. If someone wants to invest in crypto currency i think he should invest in bear market. Even though many are reluctant to bear markets in the crypto space, only those who are able to understand the importance of bear markets can benefit from it. Bitcoin price is currently trading comparatively lowest price according to it's all time high. This period is very important for investors. Investing at the moment can make huge profits from Bitcoin's bullish trend. So in the bear market it would be a golden opportunity to grow portfolio. Only those who can exploit this opportunity in the proper way will be able to gain maximum benefit from Bitcoin.

You should really be able to categorize your investment on which you would really be making up some partition
which one if for long term like BTC or ETH which you would be able to set out prices which it could really be high and if you are really that preferring on making
profits in short time, then you would really be allocating some funds on making some short trades which is excluding your long term hold or stash.
Waiting up on every cycle is never been that too short on which your patience would really be mainly be tested on this one.

Bear market or cycles would be long which it would be usually be playing around on having that 4 year cycle from bear to bull and sideways.
This is why on the time that bull run kicks in then you should really know on when to take out profits so that you wouldnt really be ending up on regretting
on the time that the cycle restarts once again.

This bear market is actually a great opportunity to buy a cryptocurrency and Bitcoin at some point where going to reach a time high of bitcoin and when that happened all of the cryptocurrency on Bullrun skyrocket as well and it potentially a big amount of profit, we could easily project a good profit if we start to accumulate cryptocurrency and Bitcoin now while the market price is still below 30k$ and for altcoins blue chips altcoins that are probably guaranteed to skyrocket on the next bull run are so cheap in the market so its also a good opportunity to buy.

I mean yes looking at the History of Bitcoin this is always a cycle of bull market and bear market, we are expecting a huge pump, and probably its going to break the All time high, I was hoping for the market price to drop a few thousand dollars so that  I could get a huge discount on the bitcoin market price, there are still a pending stuff on SEC so price might be stagnant in the coming months so could possibly accumulate for before the Bitcoin halving hype.

The 4th Cyclone will happen next year in May 2024 and this is a good opportunity and only a few months away.
This opportunity should not be wasted. Collecting Bitcoin or potentially good coins from now on will be good enough to benefit when the bull run arrives.

Don't miss this opportunity so you don't regret it.
The cycle will come in 4 years and it will certainly be a different cycle again.

I only see two types of people in a bear market, and those are the negative and positive people here in the cryptocurrency or Bitcoin industry that we are in. But most of the communities here are not happy when they see reds in the market.

But for others, instead of being angry or disappointed, they will look at this as a good opportunity for them because of the belief that it is good belief in the coins suddenly fell because they know very well that this is only temporary, so they are just taking advantage of it. to buy it while it's still cheap.

Although bull and bear markets are shaped by expectations of where the economy is headed, it is extremely difficult to pinpoint a price peak or a bottom. Despite this uncertainty, we know that markets are cyclical and many of us have experienced it. I think bear markets are the accumulation season for the next bull season and we can think of it like a farmer planting a crop on his land and then getting a yield from the land. With the right investment and research, investments made in bear markets will double our investment in the next bull season. But here we assume that the market is cyclical.

No one knows when the cycle will end. If you are not patient and strong, bear markets are not for you. You have to have steely patience and be prepared for anything because you can see the value of your investment at very low levels in this market. Most importantly, i think that our goal in crypto money markets is sustainable. We can provide this situation with the dollar cost average and minimize our risk. We can mitigate price volatility by regularly buying crypto at the same price weekly or monthly. If you're new i definitely recommend this strategy.

It is true, we must research the bear market well before investing. If we invest without researching the bull market and bear market before investing, and unfortunately if there is a bear market after investing, we may lose our entire money. So we must research the investment market i.e. bear market and bull market before investing. And should invest.

Those who have enough experience with market movements can easily spot opportunities.

Well, this is what happens in the market during bear and bull markets. When we experience a bull market, the market is usually overvalued due to hype. This presents an opportunity for investors who accumulated during the bear market to enjoy significant profits. Meanwhile, during the bear market, weak hands easily dump the holdings they acquired during the bull market. Sometimes this results in undervalued conditions in the market due to panic.

Looking at the big picture, the saying 'buy during bear market and sell during bull market' is generally profitable. Therefore, if we want to make money, it doesn't need to be complicated. Just follow the market trend, and we will be alright.

Just like on what we are seeing now on which the price is going down @27k as of this writing on which not all had been anticipating for this price to happen which we are just hovering 29k a few hours ago and now

we are on this level. Lots had been anticipating that we would be able to break that 30k after some long time sideways movement on 29k but we are wrong.I wasn't aware nor even to know on what are the current
happenings or events on why the price had plummet and if there's none then its not shocking since Bitcoin is really that always having that random movement with or without any news or fundamentals around.
As for this situation or condition then to those who are experienced would really be definitely be able to see that this decrease in price would really be a perfect strategy for you to DCA or accumulate cheaper coins.

Market could really just only have bear or bull markets on which if you arent really that wary on how this market behaves then you would really be finding yourself that too impulsive or would really be that too
reactive which would really be causing up some bad decision making which would really be affecting your overall profitability on which this is something that should really be watched out.

My advice regarding bear market is similar to other people's. Usually, a pro trader buys their assets in a bear market to take advantage of the low price and make a solid profit to sell them when the market pulls back. 
More we will discuss this topic at a few key points. 
 ‣ Buy them at a lower price and sell them at a high price to get huge potential returns.
 ‣ To reduce the impact of volatility over time, consider the DCA (dollar-cost average).
 ‣ Take a long-term perspective because, in the bear cycle, long-term investment is a good opportunity to gain a profit.
 ‣ In a bear market, which assets do you have? Focus on their fundamental analysis of the projects.
 ‣ Make your strategy to seize the opportunity. I mean, use the bear market as an opportunity to reassess your investment strategy.
 ‣ To reduce the impact of volatility on your assets, diversify your portfolio to reduce the chance of loss.
 ‣ Risk management: set a stop loss for losing as much as you can afford.
 ‣ Educate yourself about market sentiment or market cycles. 
So I think these are the key points to know before investing or trading in the bear market. 
CoinTelegraph (https://cointelegraph.com/learn/bull-vs-bear-crypto-market-what-is-the-difference-and-how-to-handle-both)