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If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.



what would you do

I'm likely going to play some live games. Blackjack, 3 card poker, and roulette. I wouldn't put 10k all in 1 hand, but I would be playing $50-100 hands to start and see where the session takes me. You could go more risky and try spinning some slots for large amounts per spin but you might not do so well that way. You have less control on slots.

I'll just probably go with roulette, I mean the risk is high if you go for a single bet, but if you got lucky and one that number is hit, huge pay-out.

Or do baccarat too, used martingale system or at least aim for 3 wins, double your money.

If I will go for a slots, max bet right away and see how it goes, if you get to the bonus run or just win big in normal spins with lots of wildcards to boot.

I'd stick to sports betting and just wait for games that I know fully and bet on them. IMO it's way safer and the risk can be handled even better on a lot of matches. Also, the bet amount that I will be using is conservative if the game that I placed a bet on is something that I'm not a 100% certain, whereas on games that I am confident about the outcome I can go ham and bet as large as I can. Sports betting is, IMO, the only safer way to get that 10k btc further towards the 65k btc mark.

But then I can always disagree to do that on behalf of my friend.

Not really a fan of big bets, so I'd probably go slow, and across various games, I like such as Blackjack, poker, crash, and maybe some roulettes here and there every now and then. It'd probably take months for me to do so unless I go crazy and did a really big bet when I'm feeling lucky. If possible, then sports betting is also an option as well, but then again I'd only ever bet on big tournaments of Apex lately, which is still in June (I only watch the championships most of the time). 

On one hand, though, I'm more likely to make it 0 than even double it based on my experience.

That is a huge amount, but probably I will play dice games or card games since he can coach me and see if we are losing or not. Try also sports betting if there are any live games that you could watch and both enjoy. Any game as long as you both enjoy it and try to win some games so that both of you can earn profit, though it is not guaranteed since that is gambling.

I would tell him, just save that $10k worth of BTC until next bullrun and try another way to earn money, keep as much as cash he can. Then try to timing in the market when every altcoin got dump because of fear 2023 ressession then buying solid ALT like ETH & BNB.

How could i take that much money in gambling which the result still unpredictable? 10k to 65k is you need to win 6.5x from that amount.

I'd go poker, skill-based, takes longer, but the chances to win are higher if you know what you are doing.
Is the $10k from the friend a "no blame game" if you lose it?
If it is, then I'd try slots too.
The problem with this kind of "play for me" thing is the one doing the playing will not try really hard because it is not his money especially if it's okay for the manager to lose.
He'd just spend it without even thinking twice unlike if it's your own money.

Too much waiting 3 or 4 yrs. gambling is entertaining.

How are you sure you can win the game easily, doesn't playing in the casino really depend on luck, then what if the value of your friend's money decreases to 5k because you fail to win the game. I would turn down offers to play for him, the stress and guilt would come over me when I failed to make any more money even though he didn't mind if it ran out.
I will let him play alone while accompanying him, if he is lucky, he will get 65k from his own effort. But if he loses, there is no guilt in me.

if it was my friend's money and asked me to play for him and double his money with a win, I would not play.
but if he gives me some to play what I like, I'll put it in for a bet at the sportsbook. although I also play craps and slots. but I prefer my luck at football betting.
to be honest, playing with money that we don't have ourselves, doesn't feel very comfortable. too risky even though the one asking is our friend.

Winning a blackjack hand 47% chance if you know how to play.

winning a roullete with 10 number  around 27% chance.


is not that bad.  I can see me make 6x my money like this

1. I will reject his offer since most people can't accept they loss and will blame the other party, so it will ruin my friendship because of gambling.

2. If he's force me to gamble with his money, I will write a contract with a stamp duty with a terms, risk and solution if it's goes wrong. So my friends doesn't can make any excuse if he lose all of his money through gambling.

Anyway I will play on sports since it's full of analysis and prediction, not like lucky based games.

That sounds to me like a perfect way of losing a friend and the money.

Very difficult to get a 6.5X return in gambling, you're more probably going to lose it all while trying. It's just maths.

I will wait for those matches in sports betting where i have more chance of winning. Where I can have a better idea of the match. I don't want to bet large amounts at first. First i compare my prediction with my strategy to see how reliable it is. If there are positive results then I will bet on select few matches. Although there are no guarantees in the betting world, hopefully i will be able to raise it from 10k upwards but definitely have to take risks to move in that direction.

In such a hypothetical situation, I would not be focused on the bet amount, but the probability of profits within a certain number of game rounds. With $10k, one assumes to have a very big bag and it would take lots of efforts to not splurge. I would rather take a cut of $500 and see what I can do with that, if I am able to make a profit, I will give my friend back the $500 capital and continue the stake with the profits.

I would likely stick to sports betting, as that is what I am more familiar with, with some rounds of roulette.

- Jay -

Yeah sort of that. Next bullrun happening after next bitcoin halving on 2024, which the bull run will start on 2025 (NFA). But i think it's better to wait instead gamble that huge money like that, unless you already rich enough to lose that money and can earn that again in a month or short time.
Gambling is entertaining when you won, but never when you lose it .

Of course it's not that bad, and you can make that kind of money, if you have that luck at your side. Hopefully, your friend or you just will gamble the money that both of you can afford to lose. I usually don't play blackjack though, so I might go with roulette with single bet or an even money outside bets, the color black or red bet.

Also to make the odds a bit better for you, choose a roulette with a single 0.

What if those $10k in bitcoins were all lost on the gaming table? Is he going to sue us to return it? I will not rush to agree because there must be terms and conditions from your friend. That is big money, so there must be something behind it.

If no terms and conditions apply from your friends, maybe the only opportunity you have is just to play in a skill-based gambling game. But unfortunately, I'm not very good at playing skill-based gambling so I guess I'll decline it ;D

I don't want to take any risks playing gambling using other people's money, including my best friend's money. He might be able to accept if I lose all his money, but the people around him might not. That's the problem.

I prefer to bet on roulette and baccarat to double the money you hold.
but for roulette I prefer the dozen column which has a bigger chance than choosing 10 numbers. because we can see the statistics on the previous 500 game rounds and we have a great opportunity after seeing these statistics.
well even though the dozen column only has a 3x multiplication but the chance of winning is greater.
but in roulette you have to be patient to double your wins because if you are too greedy you will sometimes lose.
stop for a while and when the time is right do max bet

I would tell him to go get a job.

Gambling is not something where you can  multiply your money magically. Let's say you accepted his offer and played dice with these funds and lost. What would you say to your friend? ... that you are sorry, you made a mistake, you lost his funds? Because that scenario is among the possibilities an it is not a small possibility.

This is not only for gambling, trading is the same too. Never ever try to manage other people's money.

I would most likely call my friend "idiot" and refuse to play. ;D
Always gamble with your own money. Not anybody else's money. Not borrowed money. Your OWN money. That's my golden rule for gambling.
You could've simply just asked "How would you make 65K from 10K with your own money?" ;D To be honest, I don't know. If there was a proven strategy on how to make 65K out of 10K all the gamblers in the world would've been rich and all the casinos would have been bankrupt and out of business by now. ;D  Things doesn't work that way in real life. The casino always wins.

I might go $2k to slots with 1k for bonus buy and 1k for a base bet with $10 wager per spin. The rest I play it on blackjack with a 20% bankroll bet every deal.  But before I proceed with gambling I will make sure that my friend won't blame me if our plan fails.  It is difficult to play with other's people money especially when the arrangement isn't clear.  So gonna clear all things out before engaging to gamble my friend's money.

I'll play Baccarat but won't go all in. I will use the reverse martingale strategy if i'm in winning streak with a $500 bet.

But before that I will clarify things first to this particular friend. What if I didn't win what is he going to do? If he's fine losing such amount and won't held me responsible then I will do it. Otherwise, he can do it himself to see the result. We know gambling is so risky so we can't assure anyone that we can double or triple their money no matter how confident you are.

To be honest, I think I would decline the offer. It must really be exciting and fun playing that big amount which isn't yours. But what if you lose? My observation all through these years has made me think that most friendship has monetary worth. It only takes a certain amount before it's shattered and over.

But if I were to play, it must also include blackjack and roulette and perhaps a few rounds of low buy-in poker games since I'm not that confident with my skills.

You have a valid point, but I am one of those people who wants to gamble with other people's money but under his/her supervision because if I lose, he will see it and know why. But if you can always turn 10k into 65k, then this is truly the golden ticket to becoming wealthy. I would probably take a loan because it would be a sure win that I could profit from 10k, but again, this is nearly impossible in taking this huge profit because it is gambling and you'll mostly lose it all. 

As much as I like to spend money, I value it when it comes to investment and divestment. So if a friend comes to me with a plan to gamble 100%, I would rather advise the friend that it's not the best thing to do. We would have to invest half of the money in online trading and the rest in sports betting, which I believe is wise.

As a professional in the field of online earning, I will rather reduce the stake in gambling if we must gamble at all. Of course, Duelbits would be my choice for gambling and sports betting, and we would plan a low-risk betting style only.

I will not accept such responsibility, if a friend of mine could afford to bet so much money I will be glad for them as this means they have a lot more money saved, but even then I will refuse to gamble on their name.

And this is because if I happened to lose, and with my luck that is exactly what it will happen, I do no want to be blamed for the loss and then lose a good friend over a series of events which could have been easily avoided by simply refusing such an odd request.

The main question is, how if we will lose all the $10k while trying to make $65k? Making 10k into $65k is a big target, as it is 6.5x of the initial bankroll and I'm sure it is something really hard to achieve. It will be more reasonable to have lower target such as double or triple the initial bankroll. However if I wont take any responsibility for any loses, I'd use it to play slot games. $5k for bonus buy (5x bonus buy worth $1000 each) and the other $5k to play normal spins with $10-$25 base bet.

This is a huge amount to gamble for someone so I will decline the offer despite this is really tempting. Unless the friend will sign a contract that I will not liable for the loses then I’m in.

I will play on craps with 100$ to 500$ single bet one at a time until I win. Craps is the safest game for me next to blackjack because of its low house edge. Playing poker is only top choice if I have a poker skills which I don’t.

I would say no to this. I would explain to my friend that he is likely to lose his $10k. Much more likely than to get $65k profit, anyway. You see, if you want to turn $10k into $20k, it's basically 50/50 chance of succeeding. And then the more profit you want to get, the higher the probability of losing it all before reaching the target.

But if $10k were nothing to him, and he could easily afford to lose it, I'd play poker tournaments with $100-$200 buy-in.

I would simply tell him "honey, you don't quite understand how it works in casinos" ;D

I wouldn't play for him, it wouldn't be "educational" and I would simply risk losing my capital.
Maybe I would use this figure in some betting sites to try some bets on sports (normal odds, nothing crazy like a @6)
I would suggest investing in some sites that offer staking to build up their bankrolls, but no I would never play with his money because I don't think he understood some basic concepts of this industry (see house edge)

Hell NO!

I would never recommend taking such risky action suggested by your friend. It would be much wiser for the friend with $10,000 in Bitcoin to hold onto his investment, especially now that the price is down. It's much more realistic to expect to potentially triple the value of the investment by holding onto it rather than gambling it in an attempt to make $65,000. There is a significant risk of losing everything if they were to gamble with such a large sum of money, it's not worth taking that risk in my opinion.

Come to think of it, except you are the kind of gambler that has enough funds, why would you set $10k BTC into gambling, it would be better to invest 80% of the amount and set aside the remaining 20% for gambling, it is better that way to reduce your risk, if you failed in gambling, your investments may be your backup, don't put all in a single risk.

If he will force me to play with his money then I will just play in simple games like dice and blackjack and bet small amounts so I would know if I would get my luck. But as much as possible, I would decline it because I don't want us to have a conflict in case I lost because I don't want to have our friendship to be ruined because of money. I would also advise him not to use all his funds in gambling but rather teach him other ways to maximize it without taking huge risks like gambling.

I would first confirm if there is no obligation to win because this is gambling and no guarantee of winning, its for fun and entertainment but of course we'll always do what we can to win


I'll go for $5k for Dice with various martingales no guarantee but sometimes it works= $15k, $5k for crash game winning with x10 = $65

I wish I have a friend who'll invite me to do this play for fun with no obligation to win.

before playing I will warn my friend first because it is very likely that the money will run out and lose, if he agrees about the risk I will choose to play poker by looking for a balanced opponent or playing Crash games or betting on sports

The chance of doubling 10k to 65k is 50-50 in any of the game you choose to bet on. You can still lose the whole money,the reason is that,gambling is a game of luck,most gamblers loose more than they win.

Why gambling ? Is it that he wants the money through a fast means ? I will not go into such deal with him,I will only advice him to invest his money in bitcoin,if he is patient enough to invest in a long term bitcoin hodi,he might make more than 65k when bitcoin hits the bull market.

   - It's a bit challenging for me if I'm the one playing, but I won't be held responsible if I ever lose playing gambling and we must also agree on what percentage we will share.

And my game pattern will probably be playing slot games because winning here is quite realistic based on my experience. Since this is also gambling, we never know when we will suddenly get lucky while playing.

I believe you would have better chances of that happening by avoiding games that basically rely upon luck. That is why I would certainly go for betting. At least, for me, that would be the wisest decision, as I usually can get some profits out of sports betting, especially soccer. I do hold excellent knowledge of soccer and am used to betting, but it would take time to turn 10k into 65k. It is not an easy task.

One, no one should accept a gamble game when someone doesn't even know what they are capable, since it's a complete lose.

Two, if it's a dare or something but based on the scenario of OP, it's not a dare since it seems like he knows what the players are capable of or what skills they have. It's like finding your best team or player before you make a bet about it.

And lastly, it's not that some luck based games isn't worthy but majority of the game the players want to play are those games that based on luck. It's like gambling to a high risk, high reward bet.

Of course that's something interesting, if a friend has $10k in funds, I definitely don't want to risk losing money, even though he said betting to be able to double it to $65k, I would tell a friend to bet that $10k myself, i don't want to get involved in gambling that friend's money.

There are interesting things if I read the way you bet.
For example, the trick or method you want to do.
if your method works why don't you try it yourself, maybe you can borrow $10k from a relative, bank or loan/pawnshop, if you can multiply it to $65k, if you have the courage.

Talking is easy, doing is difficult, you know gambling, the risk is bigger than imagination, advice: gamble as much as you can, greed will destroy you, remember it's gambling.

With an offer like this I will play several games and will not put all the capital in one game because the risk will be greater, so I will choose poker and Blackjack because in these two games it will be easy to get 65k from 10k capital, and we can also play in sports matches because there we are easier to predict to win each game, but all also require experience in every bet.

I'll decline, I will refuse to play for him.

But instead, I'll offer that I'll go with him wherever he goes and he'll be the one to play for it. I don't have an appetite to gamble with others' money because I don't want to.

I don't feel that I should gamble with someone's money and I don't want to carry that regret if ever I'll lose that much money even if he'll say "win or lose, it's okay".

Gambling for someone to make money shouldn't be done, because we can't expect the gamble to be successful all the time. In such situation I'll try to avoid gambling, and if he's of a type to consider it in funny way then I'll go with Dice. Because I've managed to make some wins over the past and though my complete wager is on the negative side.

We will gamble together and have fun, I just want to make things clear to him that I cannot promise to make profit for him but I can make sure that we will have fun together and getting a profit is just a bonus for us. Probably we will play on a casino, on every table because that's a lot of money for me already and we can enjoy that much with that money. Making it a 600% profit is quiet not easy in gambling, it will take a lot of luck for sure.

A gambling enthusiast is someone who is already addicted to a bet or game and losing all the money playing or betting in a match is not what crazy gamblers think about.
They are unlikely to have a feeling of disappointment about this because they can feel their own pleasure and satisfaction from betting and gambling.

It's not a matter of getting money in a nutshell, but it's become their habit.
As it would be very difficult to be able to advise a gambling enthusiast to stop betting and playing.
What's more, it suggests investing in bitcoin, whereas a gambler has greed and greed and is impatient because basically investing is a decision made by someone to save their money with the aim of getting profits in the future and it takes quite a long time. also.
I'm not sure I can do it myself.

If the same situation was given to me, I would first ask my friend to first think that there is no guarantee that they can make 65K from 10K. This is all about luck and probabilities, which means that we can lose even 10K while our wish was to make 65K. This is how uncertain gambling and no one can give surety of the outcome of the result in gambling.

I would start with roulette but will spend less amount of funds on each game. This way we may not reach 65K quickly but the risk becomes low as we won't be losing 10K in one or two games.

What I will do is to make sure that the friend is with me when I will do the betting for him. I won't allow him to give me the money to bet in his absence but he will be there to see for himself even though he has given me the power to bet for him because it is a game of luck so that he won't think I cheated on him. So about the games I will go for, I'm going to bet on dice game. I will also bet on soccer but I will select very few games not higher than 3 games at a bet or I can bet single games to reduce the chances of not winning because now that I have such huge money, I will rely on adding more money per bet.

Maybe we could try sports betting, I don't want to make give a big bet fast I need to make sure that even though we lost it will be minimal that's why sports betting since I just need to make a research for it and check always the odds, maybe I could bet in both teams if the odds are slightly similar to each other but then if I will be given a chance to play it would be sports betting, I just don't want to make a promise to have 65k in an instant.

The first thing I will do is to tell my friend to stop that crap of making that amount target as a purpose why should we gamble. Instead, I will told him that we will try to maintain winning as much as possible without aggressively trying to reach any target.

Second, I will give him a disclaimer that in case of being sh*t, don't blame me for losing that much.

Next, before starting the actual gamble, I will ask this question several times,"are you really sure?".

Moving forward, I will play it on several slots with a $1 bet as a minimum and since I can't control the flow of the game, I will just hope that luck would come to me. I will also consider choosing casino games where the buy-in feature seems worth spending on.

Lastly, hope for the best.

I might accept the offer but their will be terms and conditions, if I accept the offer incase if I lose in the process of gambling then I won't pay back, not that if I lose in the process of gambling you will be asking me to refund your money for you. I can't assure win in gambling, if am even gambling under pressure I don't always win, I always keep on losing, anything that will make me collect money from my friend to gamble for him, I might endup losing all the money I collect from him since my aim is to multiple the money he gave me.

Firstly I'll ask how much I will get if I managed to get what he want and I'll also ask how if I lose all his money?
It is important to ask these 2 question because it can be something wasting time for me to play with other's money but I do not get anything if I win something with the money.
It is also important to know about our risk, unless he said that he is OK if the worst case happens.
So if I'll get something if I win and if he is OK with loses, I will do play some different games but probably I'll play Plinko.
I will play plinko with 15 row which has 620x max multiplier, I'll start with smaller bet first and increase the bet frequently.
Frankly, I do not like to gamble with other's money, but if there is a chance like this and there is no risk at all for me, I'll do it.

With that amount of money in wager, I would definitely try my luck in various card games and I would definitely avoid slots or anything that absolutely revolves around luck.

While gambling overall is all about luck, there are certain games where you can lessen the risk of absolute luck, like card games where it also involves some skill in order to win. Again, with that amount of money on the line, I would definitely exercise all the means to lessen the risks of the odds going against me.

It's really not gonna be easy. Once that amount of btc gets into your hand, your working strategies will begin to fail. Do you know why? Your Staking power has increased but your confidence hasn't increased yet.
In this situation I will go to what I know better and where I think my hardworking of research and past knowledge can help. That is sports betting.
I can really know the clubs that Manchester City, PSG can win with over 1.5 goals.

I'd try to play but I'd do it with him by my side and tell him something like this: man, we can stop at any time, if you feel uncomfortable at any moment just say it. Also, I'd recommend we split it into 2 5k batches and play together at the same table. We'll see who does better and if one of us wins the hand some of the money lost by the other guy will go to the other, which mitigates the risk a little bit.
Playing like this doesn't do as much if we both put 5k each on the line, but if the money belongs to 1 guy and we split, it's a big difference if we play the same table.

If I were in that situation I would basically reject the invite. I personally don't like to play with other people money since I know it can ruin your relationship if things go worst. But if I have 10k and trying to make it 65k, I would normally start at lower bets. I've tried big bets before but I prefer small bets like 10-30$ that make me last in the table for long and enjoy my time with it. 10k is big enough for me to play in different gambling games such as blackjack, poker, roulette and even crash game.

Since I am not an avid gambler and especially do not consider myself lucky, I would not agree to participate in increasing the amount of $10k available to a friend with the help of gambling, I would just try to dissuade him from this idea.

I do not completely trust in my gambling ability to double my own money talk less of someone's money. I take it my friend understand that his 10k in BTC may be lost. I hope so, so it does not end up destroying our relationship. To try to win more, I will consider what I think I am better at which is sports betting above every other option. I will not sports bet on many games, just a few game like three with very good odds which I have studied the previous statistics of either the team or the player. That's my option.

Casino you say? Then I'll prefer to spend those coins in sports-betting platform where I somehow have any advantage rather than playing a luck-based game. I know that online or offline casinos can double or triple those said coins quickly, but what if it's the opposite? Because as I said, it's just a two-way bet without any data needed and the faster the game, the faster those coins will move, so I'll just take my time to bet on sports.

I wouldn't play with his money, wouldn't want the friendship to end like that. There's a rule that you don't do business with friends, don't employ them in your company, don't borrow money from them unless you're in deep shit and don't gamble against them, unless they're very chill about it and it's not a lot of money.

If they gave me the money and said you win- you share with me, you lose it's your loss, I gave you the money, it's yours to do what you like, I might do it. If they said "gamble for me" I wouldn't.

I value my friends too much to risk them blaming me for their loss and I'd feel like I have to compensate them somehow.

As if its that easy  ;D ;D
If it was this easy, i bet you that several casinos will be shutting down their business everyday due to not being able to pay winnings.

I would probably go for some in-house games like dice, keno and the likes, I wouldn't trying playing roulette since that could be me taking a really big risk, reasons being that I am a complete novice to roulette, and also blackjack, I've played this games a couple of times, but based on my knowledge of it so far, I am not ripe enough to take it on, on a professional level.
So I would go with dice and keno, crash is the worst in-house game I've played on casinos so far, I only play crash with money i am absolutely ready to lose, so i wouldn't risk such an amount of money playing such games.

if i have a friend who says this to me then i will immediately play the money to multiply it and the game i choose is Bonanza Slots, i really love slots, and most of the time i am lucky while playing the Bonanza Slots game.  i won x100 several times, and who knows i'll make that $10k in BTC to $100k or more in just a few hours.

Maybe when you play with your own money, you'll be experiencing less pressure than playing with others money. Everytime we can't predict ourselves to be successful in gambling and shared about his success. I'll try this with Dice, Crash as they're very familiar with majority of the gamblers.

As long as I’m not liable for any loses, then I will accept the offer and I will just the usual strategy I’m using every time I gamble. I can put some money on a sports betting, and use some for a poker game. I will not gamble in an instant, I’ll ask for my friend to give me at least a week to make some profit with this money and whatever the result is, he should be more happy and never blame me for any losses I have made.

I believe everyone should pick an option that they are most comfortable with to have an upper hand even if it means you will have to play longer to get to the target. It is not the time to try out your skills on roulette or blackjack or any other game that you know you are not very good at yet. So, to try getting profit play the game you know best to play. I do not have a game that I can be proud of my skills with, so I will turn down my friend, I will not want to be trying just my luck with her money.

It is a proposal devoid of realities, btw there is have to consider telling your friend the ROI could be zero.

In any case, since I like poker, I think it's the place to go, and where by the way this type of "sponsorship" is common, it's something that only professionals should do.

The famous phrase "don't bet money you can't afford to lose" includes this type of offer for common, even frequent players.

In this aspect you will first observe the kind of game you play before you can playing the game. Theirs one thing i observe concerning this, the thing is that focusing on increasing your money or doubling your fund in gambling is another thing that push people into lost because of they are curious in need of spamming,

Better to have that mindset letting go of the amount that you are willing to spend and not to allow yourself in chasing back if ever you already lose your entire bankroll. Playing dice or crash mostly based from how luck will permit you to win, if you stay longer time the chance of losing everything is possible while if you are just after with some roll and if you are also conservative which you don't want to lose a lot best to quit either you are still in green or you already spent portions of your capital and just call for the day.

Before my friend can suggest such to me and even go ahead to entrust such sum, it means he must have seen me display a skill set in gambling that he would come to such an idea. First question I would have to ask would be if the money is not refundable, in case it is lost while betting.
Well, seeing I don't really do display so much skill with poker and slot as I would have loved to, I doubt any friend would come to me with such an idea, am not even going to try out such if it was my money, because my skill set right now is still in developing stages.

I would try on my favorite slot machine,I know that it can be done there,you just need to hit the jackpot and by playing with like 10-25 dollars as a single bet in for example games which gives you x100 multipliers in their bonus round or feature game can have big possibilities to win huge if I get to hit the x100 maximum prize for example with a 2500 dollars bet as that would be 25x100 multiplier and get 2500x100 best prize meaning to win a 25.000 dollars to add up to my balance and then continue in another slot.

If I see that I am not winning anything during my first 5000 dollars then I am going to quit and try a couple of 1000 dollars parlay in sport betting,this I think to be the best strategy.

Turning $10k through gambling on casino games to $65k... I think my first question to my friend would be,

What happens if we get to loose it all?
Why don't you just play by yourself? And that's my friend I am referring.

I would get my friend to understand that, this is gambling and it could go both ways. A lose or a gain and that's where we could begin.
I would be a lot more comfortable with sportsbook but for casino games, I rely more on luck to do the trick.

Which ever games I'll be goi g for, I'll surely ensure I'll split our capital to between $10-50-100 and have my go at the games. If need be, we might just not have to gamble all day.

but you can only go to sports betting if at least you have one particular sports that you are very familiar of. otherwise, you are also playing by luck. but in the OP's scenario, turning 10k to 65k via gambling is hard especially if you are into luck-based games. the chance of losing is higher than winning. i don't think i will agree to my friend regarding this proposition. a war with your friend is imminent if you lose it all.

If there's no string attached and just for fun only I'll go for a crash game and cashout after I reached 10 times my bet or if I want it longer I'll go for mine games and go for 11 hits for 12.51 profit on a crash game, these two are high-risk games but if you're lucky and there's no string attach I'll go for these two games and patterns.

If all is clear and my friend a 100% consent and won't blame me for any losses, then by all means I will play 50% of the fund on high-volatility slots.  It is a free bet considering my friend is sponsoring my gameplay, it is best to bet it on high volatility slots, since if we got lucky then will reap more than the planned amount of profit. And the other 50% to skill-based gambling games such as poker or blackjack.  I will try the slots first then the skill-based game for recovery and eventually for the win.

As he asked you to gamble with his own money, probably he is aware about the risk and knows that anything can happen with hid money since gambling is not guaranteed. Slot machines seems to be the easiest game to deal with since it doesn’t require any skills at all and with that, I will also spend most of the funds here. Though if my friend asked me to gamble only with the skill based games, then I have no choice but to follow it, so poker will be my choice.

I might go with it but through sports betting and before any bet I make, I'll make sure that I've gathered information and did my research before placing huge bets on it.
I think the odds for me to win with huge amounts on it is really big and that's what I'm going to do if ever a friend of mine would have a deal like that of course signing of papers that if it's entirely gone, no twists, no plots just money gone.

As long as we agree that there will be no blaming game in case of losing, then I'm fine playing casino for my friend.

I will play these gambling games; slots and sports betting. Why slots? Bet on our luck as big multipliers thru free spins, scatters, wild, bonus games, etc. can be found here and that's good progress of accumulating profits "if I will hit those".

My pattern would be;

a) play in a slot and switch if not hitting good reels
b) sports betting - odds between 1.7 - 1.8 with bets ranging from $50 as a minimum.

I would be thinking twice about this, but if he guarantees that it is perfectly all right to gamble that money win or lose and he won't even blame me for my losses, then I'd be happy to play slots with it with high multiplier jackpots, among other games of course. There is also baccarat, poker, dice, and blackjack which I would also like to play. I would also be betting on some sports matches.

But more than this, I would also be definitely telling him that his 10k is more likely going to 0 than 65k, just so he's aware of what gambling is really all about.

Yes, whether it is small amount being spent or big amount we don't have any guarantee of winning. It is better to prepare his mind for the worst and feel happy if things happen good. On such condition I'll go with sports betting, because the bets placed will let me win or loss and in between I'll get the opportunity to cashout and limit the loss.

It is very risky and I have to say that no one will advise you directly.  Because here you want to use many of your dollars as an investment, but online gaming, gambling, casino, betting, dicing, pokering, and other related games have many risks as well as profits.  Moreover, there are many scamming sites in which there is a possibility of getting completely cheated if you invest.  So you can do whatever you want, you must research very well before investing in online casino, gambling, casino, betting, dicing, pokering.

The truth is, I would convince my friend not to bet that money in the casino, rather let's find a safer way to multiply the money, one option would be sports betting on what I know best and that is soccer, maybe that's what you see Yes, we could be very successful, but not in a casino, because it is very easy to lose everything, however, I would also convince him to do some trading to see if we could have more luck there, because it is more about knowledge than luck that happens there. I wouldn't be, but leaving everything in a casino would be something very big and I think he would see it as something irresponsible on my part.

but at least it is safer than risking it to gamble, though I can see that you are good in this area but many of us isn't that good so the chance of losing is higher than gaining.
Maybe letting it to gamble  isn't the best idea for me and I would suggest to be invested for crypto than to make it to gambling.

Since we are talking about friends, of course, we need to take it as if it were ours and carefully invest it in some safe investment rather than playing with that huge amount of money. If my friends trusted me with that much of his money, then I will not gonna use it to play games, I will gonna convince him to try some other method of multiplying it for safety method. Others might think that money is probably just for entertainment but for me, I will gonna be careful about spending it and consult him about every move I am about to make with his money.

I would have refused if he had asked me to play his money in the casino. I'd better advise him to keep the money because there's no guarantee we'll make any money gambling. Especially if it is a roulette game, we know that the game is based on luck, and if we don't have luck, we will lose and spend all the money without recovering it. It wouldn't be good if he saw defeat and lost all his money or only lost half of all his money still wouldn't make him feel good. And that can trigger him to try to recover his losses by placing another bet.

I don't know maybe you do lose whenever you are playing Bonanza slot game? I don't think their will be any way you will be gambling that you won't be losing money sometimes, you might be lucky always, but what if you are not lucky after collecting money from your friend? If you end up losing most of the money you collected from your friend what will happen? Also you will be gambling under pressure so your chances of you losing money will be kind of high, you shouldn't be over confident when gambling, their is no assurance that you are going to win.

I'll first explain the risk and tell him that there's no guarantee that I can multiply the money until it reaches $65k if it's ok for him and he wants results right away any game in a casino can do that I'll go for crash game set the winning to 6x of the amount bet its high risk but you can result under a minute if you're lucky you can instantly win ten times of the amount, the most important here is he's ok with whatever decision you do with the fund.

Playing a casino game for a friend is one thing I wouldn't do for no reason because it's a very risky game,and if I don't win his money for him,or in the process of playing I lost,he wouldn't take it likely with me,he would want me to refund his money even when he knows it's not my fault loosing.He would forget the fact that casino game is a game of luck,and if luck is not on your side that day,you are definitely going to loose.
The day I made that mistake playing game for my brother,we had problem for a long period of time,just because I didn't win with his money.I was just unlucky that day,and wasted his money due to casino game.I can't try it for anybody again.

It's risky and I don't think it will gonna work.

Let's say you and your friend are successful make $65,000 from $10,000, then it will comes to how you both will share the prize and it's need to be fair? You will say let's divide the winning prize, so $55,000/2 is $27,500, you will get $27,500 while your friend get $27,500+$10,000 (initial deposit). But your friend say it's not fair because if he doesn't have the initial deposit, you wouldn't get anything and your friends winning more than you, so he only want to reward you 5%-10%. You will mad and angry to your friend since it's not fair.

I think going all-in in blackjack is too risky even if you are sure about your ability but your pattern in roulette seems more winnable because you are scattering your bet in to 10 numbers instead of one. Why not go with roulette first? Once you win and build some balances, that's the time you can bet/play slowly in the blackjack game.

I have no skills in roulette or in blackjack but I have some experience already in a dice game so I will only use this game. As for the pattern, I think I will be using a martingale strategy because I think this one is more safer than playing the default way. Trying to win $65k starting from a $10k capital seems pretty achievable as long as we don't rush things.

I'll talk to my friend first if he knows the risk of entrusting someone with gambling funds. I will play it my way if he understands the risk, but I won't promise that I can make it to $65,000 or even win since gambling is risky. I will play it in small bets using martingale with dice, blackjack, or any card games. Spend some of the money playing slot games and other live games since there's a lot you can do with $10,000.

The most probable thing to happen is that you will lose the money, nothing personal, just maths.

And when that happens, you will end up without the money and without the friend, unfortunately.

sometimes even though we accept it there is an awkward and uncomfortable feeling for our friends if in the end they lose and lose money, even though our friends can use the money to invest in crypto don't use it to play gambling because we are not completely lucky sometimes we also don't know our unlucky day

If there's no other choice and I can't decline, I'll divide it into different scenarios, games, and allocations. Well, it will depend on how will be the first outcome of my game.
My first choice will be in sports betting which I know of but honestly speaking if I'll be entrusted with that amount I'll talk to my friend instead of gambling it.
We have another option but it's way slower but have more chances of growing his money and that is investing, and the first choice of where it will be allocated, none other than bitcoin.

To stressful to handle especially if the money is not yours so maybe I will clarify first if he can afford to lose that and he will not blame me if unfortunate things happen since we are not lucky everyday  then we might lose all the funds he give to us. If he can handle this then I will use this money to play poker since I'm half confident that I can handle this one. Also I will split some amount to use on sports betting since this is what I am familiar with and have good chance to win.

In this case I would first ask my friend to accept his ricks as I will never take responsibility for his money if it is lost. Because gambling is a very risky thing . If he takes the risk and own responsibility.  So I'll go to the live games first to bet and play dice and play blackjack . I will try to increase his money through these

Without luck the outcome will always be on the favor of the house, better to advise not contnue or use his money instead and let him enjoy whatever the outcome instead of letting him force you to play in hs behalf, roulette is something that you might win again if luck is there to back you up, but if there's none then expect to suffer and lose your capital.

If that happens to me, I would prefer to keep his 10k Bitcoins in a decentral wallet for long-term purposes, because 10k Bitcoins is not a small amount of money for me. And again, gambling is not a place to multiply money, even though not a few people get returns that are more than their expectations. although also for the sake of fun it's better to use money that isn't in bitcoin, the bad thing that can happen is that 10k Bitcoin can disappear in a matter of hours or even minutes, so I need to remind my friend, for the safety of money my friend.

To be honest, I would refuse it. I don't want to be burdened with the hope of winning the gamble. especially if the gambling we play is luck-based gambling. I think it's too heavy for me to bear the burden, especially if I lose. of course, the disappointment that we will get. I am not used to it, after all the probability of a big win we have in luck based gambling is very small. however, if you are lucky, of course, it will be greatly multiplied, maybe more than what was previously targeted.

Regardless of the context of this thread, if my friend could do some gambling and make a gamble for himself. why do I have to get involved, I can even play with my own capital without the burden and risk of losing afterwards. however, if I want to double 10k it becomes 65k. chances are I'll bet on a sportbook, yes sports betting. I can choose the type of parlay mode for soccer bets with 3 or 4 matches. if I lose, it is part of the risk. if i am lucky i will win my parlay bet slip.

Luck is the deciding factor in gambling. It is always good to play with one's own fund. We don't have assurance of winning a bet, if it is our own money whether we loss or win it won't disturb us. When we play with friend's money, if we win it brings happiness. If the bets loss, it'll surely make our mind get disturbed even if the friend didn't take it wrong.

even though it's not my money but $10k is not a small amount of money in my country and surely I wouldn't easily accept a friend of mine spending all that money on gambling.


martingale is a very risky strategy, I will not do it even if I have large capital or I use my friend's capital and I would avoid gambling based on luck. I will definitely advise my friends to put all that money into sports betting and football is the best option, betting on what we are good at will give big winning chances.

First of all I think it will never happened to me and one more thing I am not that kind of hardcore gambler, even then my opinion will be ask him to accept the risk first that I can't take any responsibility for it then split it into several parts and gamble on them part by part not at once.
Moreover, I have another idea in my mind that 10k dollars is not a very small amount, if I hold bitcoins for long term with this amount, then maybe it will be possible to withdraw that money, because if my friend gives me 10k, then he has to take this responsibility that it can be completely lost  ;D

I feel this way too because I have seen alot of cases where money ruined friendships and also of how people refused to accept loss when they loose in gambling. The friend can deny he said something like that if he is the type who can not stomach losses if it happens. But if there is a written agreement on that I can go ahead. I will choose sporting betting like football and tennis. These are sports I can be very confident to bet on but it has to be gradual bets in bits, no like putting all the cash on a single bet.

One we have ti know is that gambling is something that a gambler supposed make up it mind to gamble without anyone description in gamblling, believe that sometimes we gamble because what come to our mind in gambling not following another person direction, because if you happen to lose nobody will agree to say it's the one that gives you channel or encouragement to gamble, but when you win you will see many people who will come and say that they made you what you are.

Gambling is more risky when we gamble with huge amount so probably I will also wait even for quite long as long as I can assure that I will have my best best and that bet will have higher probability to win. Otherwise, betting for just some chance and luck will only lose them all in the end. And I won’t allow that to happen since the amount I am holding is definitely big and it would be insane losing them all in the long run.

You have target winnings, I do not think that martingale is the most effective way of reaching the target.  Imagine if you do a martingale strategy, you can only double your initial bet after several rolls and risk.  It isn't worth it at all except if you do reverse martingale where you double your winning every win but you need a reset your bet every x win to be able to pocket the winnings else if you just let your bet roll, you will never profit and will end up losing your fund.




This should be the answer but it will hurt your friend's feelings because he thinks he is doing something in good faith and yet you refuse it.  I think there is no problem playing your friend's money as long as it is clear that he won't blame you if ever you lose it all.

To be sincere with you, I would also do the same, that is reject the offer, this I forgot to mention in my previous comment, I will never gamble with a friend's money, not even my own brother, except we are going to do it together, that is sitting side by side starring at the computer and deciding which game to play, how to play it and what amount to bet on.
This is the only way I would accept such an offer,  if it be that my friend wants me to take the money and gamble with it on my own, I would will not accept and it doesn't matter whether he feels bad or not, friendship does not mine we wil accept and do things for each other all the time, even the impossible..

This is what gambling is described in the dictionary - take risky action in the hope of a desired result.
So in gambling, there's always a chance to lose. Never put all your money in one game. And one thing that is highly suggested is don't invest what you can't lose. If you have only that asset, then I should say, don't put them all in gambling. Try other way and put only that amount which you are willing to lose.
And if the money belongs to someone else, just DON'T

I think roulette is the best in here but for simplicity I guess dice is the best choice of gamble you need to play with a friend. There are diverse games in a casino and you can vote for each to decide the best course of action, if your friend knows somehow a game he loves to play, just take that chance he might be lucky on that.

You would really be getting that blame for sure even if they would say that it is really just fine but they are really that expecting something from that amount.It is really just that impossible that
someone on your friend would really be just giving you 10k and let you handle or play with it.Why not they cant just make it for themselves? rather than on letting others bet from it.
Just like other people been saying that this isnt a small amount which you could just simply let lose in a short span of time.If ever there are ones who do ask out on
 making bets in behalf of him them roulette or dice would really be that something good to test on.

i will bet on sport match because if i bet at the casino the house will always win and i don't want to disappoint my friend, i will analyze every game as much as i can to bet all the money untill reach $100k profit

Their discussion looks like a chill one. If the agreement is clear and no such thing as in the event of loss, there will be one to blame, they are good to push their plan on gambling that kind of money. As long as they understand that gambling is not a joke, they can gamble the hell of their money even how much it is, and just mind their own business.

Since gambling requires some luck especially playing casino games, I just hope that luck will guide them lol.

If your friend will be hurt if you denied his offer, then I don't think that you should really be accepting it on the first place. Imagine how high the responsibility that you will have to carry if you lose his money and not be able to reach the goal, he had set.

Even if there is no string attached whether you lose it or not, but it will still somehow affect your mental health thinking that you have lost your friend's money.

Too much pressure, right from the start I feel obliged in some way to my performance not open ready relaxed, free and easy.     I feel I would lose under such a weight to perform, ironically and ideally you wouldnt give a dam because then I think people would be more lucky if trying to win consistently without being scared to play or lose.
   Its a bad idea, I know hypothetical but play for yourself imo this only how you lose a friend in my experience.

I agree. Even your friend is fine incase you lose his money, still, it doesn't feel good knowing you're the one responsible why it happened. So, much better to let him gamble his money if he really want to, then just accompany him as your support. People changed when it comes to money hence don't put yourself into a hard situation facing the consequences of your decision to gamble the money that is not yours.

This is just for discussion purposes, it'll be hard to find such a confusing offer. I don't think any friend of mine would offer such a proposal, but if any does, I'd ask him what he wants? and remind him that it's gambling and not an investment, if he actually wants to stake the money whether win or loss. To clarify he is right with his decision, they should be a witness around that'll testify what happened in case things go wrong and he wants his money back. Following the easy route, a dice game will be fine, though, it'll be a long play as I won't go all in. But, its certain he won't loss all his money and I may not hit his target.

And you'd have about 10% chance to reach that goal because we're talking about a 10x win, so you'd really have to be good at this and very lucky.
Most likely you'd win a small sum or lose it all, and then what? No 100k and no money for your friend?

Some of you don't have a lot of fears when it comes to this. It's like you turn off thinking when it comes to money. What if a friend told you to take their 1 million dollar car for a ride? I'd be afraid because my first thought would be "what if someone crashes into me and for the rest of my life I'll be the one who destroyed his car?" It wouldn't matter that it wasn't my fault. In social gatherings I'd be the shit driver that wrecked the expensive car, the guy who you don't trust with expensive things.

Who told you that winning is certain in gambling? If I was the one being asked to play for his/her money, I'd refuse. Winning is never certain in this industry and if I'd play that money, the blame could be on me (even if he/she's the one to ask the favor). Another thing is some sort of regret perhaps you'd win from that amount; think of your gain if that was your capital. So just to be safe from any negative outcome, prevent it in the first place. To those people who'd say "why would he blame you if that amount would loss if he/she is your friend?". Please grow up. It is money we are talking about and it is something which has value. Again, never think that gambling is a shortcut to being rich. Think of how many people gone broke because of this activity.

I'd probably go for sports betting because it requires knowledge about the sports and team record to be able to place a nice bet. The probability of winning lies on how you assess the information you have at hand. So you have the edge if you know how to assess and analyze things. The better chance of winning if you have a good sense of prediction and gut feeling. Since luck also plays a role in sports betting aside from utilizing what you already knew.

However, I will definitely make it clear to my friend that we will not undergo the blaming game once things don't go out on our favor and expectations. There should be a written agreement about the winnings and losses so that no one will have hard feelings after it's done, whatever the results are. After all, it's him who reached out, therefore it must not take a toll on my mental health and well-being after I did what I'm supposed to do.

They always say that we shouldn't involve gambling and money in friendship because it could easily ruin relationships. That will be a risky offer and your friend might only blame you if every you'll lose in gambling. Let him decide on his own and never get involved in it. As a friend, you can also advise him not to risk a huge amount of money in gambling if he aims to make a profit. Never decide for your friend's fortune in gambling.

That's too risky and for sure that there is no guarantee that you will win, and it is a bit of luck if you ever won. The question is if you are really an experienced gambler and have tactics for winning the game. Also, what if you lose the money? What would be your excuse?

That's what I don't want to happen between us because that's what will happen even though we are best friends. Maybe he won't ask for his money back, but as friends, we feel bad for him and will say we'll give him all his money back. That is why I refuse to use the money because there is a risk of losing it, and I will never know how much money will be spent on gambling later.

Precisely. The house is bound to take all its money from the losing gambler. And we imagine if we lose all the money and our friends grieve over the loss of the money. We will surely feel sad and sorry for him because we are also a part of it. We also never know when our luck will come. Therefore, we better refuse to use the money.

Eventually the person will lose the money, and the friend.

It's a no win situation, I wouldn't do that at all.

Everyone should gamble whatever they want, without involving other people, that's just asking for trouble.

And as I posted before, that it would be very risky to risk money that is not ours. the reason is, in the OP thread story a friend offered to stake 10k and wanted to double it to 65k with a luck based type of gamble. if we win we are very lucky, if we lose maybe what you say could happen. hence, why we refuse to get involved. as a friend, i will not forbid him with what he is planning.

maybe, I will provide input for playing just for fun without targeting large amounts of wins. Oftentimes, someone who targets high winnings from gambling will end up losing. moreover, gambling based on luck. i like to play roulette, blackjack, baccarat, or any other kind of gambling. but just just for fun, nothing more. so, from what the Op asked in the thread. I will choose to bet with personal capital, rather than having to bear the burden and risk of losing.

I am on a different opinion here, it's not a big deal to ask for help, especially from a gambler you know that is more experienced than you. It depends on the situation, it's only when you and the friend are equal in gambling skills that I would have preferred your own disposition about this. A friend had helped me out with a football betting ticket before that worked better than I could have played it. So we should know our level of gambling before being rigid about this.

I do not need to be a genius to know that gambling other people's money is always a bad idea.
At first I would try to convince my friend not to gamble that much but rather invest it, if he insisted I think I would try to go for live poker. I would try to learn more and improve my technique first, since it has been a long time since I played it.

The other options would be dices, but that would be too risky, in my opinion.

That is why I would ask him first for no complaints in case of losing the bankroll entirely or partially. If he agreed with this condition I would be fine in going ahead and gambling some traditional games like crash, mines, dice, limbo, blackjack, plinko until reaching his goal or until going busted. However, if he expressed any discomfort with the loss possibility, I would tell him to find someone else to gamble with his funds or to gamble by himself. Anyway, from 10,000$ to 65,000$ is a long road to pass through and the chances of succeeding are minimal.

A better idea would be to go from 10,000$ to 15,000$ or 20,000$ only. Probably I would try to convince him about it as well.

If you can position yourself that way with your friend then it is much better, I agree that convincing him to invest is far better than to risk his money into gambling, it's a bad idea if you or your friend value his money, but if he doesn't care for those two options that you have may be good but always remember that it's luck that will let you win, maybe some strategy but more on the influence of luck.
getting the approval will give you the go signal to whatever games you prefer, but having a good control is your responsibilities with your friends money, still hard to take it up even he won't blame you for real if you lose the money but regret will always be there.

This would seem like a good choice but I doubt it will work at all, this is because people accept all kind of things without even thinking about it, but once they have to face the consequences of their actions they try to avoid them and blame everyone but themselves about it, and this market is a good example of this, how many times we have warned newbies to not invest in coins which are cams in the forum? Many times I suppose and the newbies simply say that they have everything under control and that nothing will happen to them, but once it does they get mad about the results they get even if they were warned about them, and they try to push the blame on someone else, so I think the same will happen here even if you warned them about the possibility of losing their money.

Acually I don't have that kind of friends who will give me 10k usdt for playing in casino. Still if someone ever gives I think, then I will first divide it into several parts and especially I will invest a good amount in sports betting than in casino. Even then there is also more options games in casino what I like is blackjack , poker and some slot. And I also don't invest all funds at once .

Really impossible right? Even be given out $10 would really be hard if you do ask me basing up on real situation which it turns out to be unrealistic kind of scenario or moment which someone of your friends would really let you bet on the amount which is considered to be big already without having any conditions or something agreement.Even if he's a rich guy then there's no way for a certain person would really be just too confident
on making their 10k to be bet by someone even with your closest friend or even with your siblings which it cant really just be possible.This is why if ever this one do happens
and what if's then there are lots of games and types which you can play.

I also don't have a friend that will give, let me borrow, or even let me risk a generous amount for a bet. This is because this subject matter is a really risky one. The moment the supposed player messed up, then it's all over. The friendship will be gone and so is the money if ever the result would be consecutive losses.

Although if I would have, I probably would also allot much of it to sports betting because that is what I'm inclined to compared to casino games. Strategy and knowledge, together with good smart guessing and gut feeling are what you need in sports betting that will make your chances of winning higher if ever you possess more or all of it.

10k in BTC to make it $65k? I will tell him to shove it up his ass. First things first, how much will I get if I ever make it happen?
Next thing I want to know is why would he trust me with that amount? Where did he get the money? Is he stupid enough to let me handle such a big amount just to gamble it?
What if I lose?
I'd say, there's no such thing as a friend and if ever there is and he don't care how much will be gone in his pocket then I'd pick any and just put it all in.

yes, even if we refuse, it's like we don't appreciate his good intentions, but on the other hand, we also don't want him to spend money and lose money that could possibly be used and useful for his family's needs, refusing in a subtle way or giving a little advice to our own friends that the dealer will always win

Damn that is some huge amount of money to gamble with. At first I would deny him to play with such an amount.
But if he still insists then I would go for my favorite games which are crash and dice.
Also, we could bet together on some sport matches and get the thrill of winning those bets.

$10k is already damn huge for me. But if the person is very rich and $10k is dust money then I will probably test as many games as possible but with little bets. My focus is on playing dice games where the house edge is minimal. I will be using different strategies. I will also try to recommend sports betting and if it is allowed then that will be my focus since I am following some sports that I am already very familiar with.   

I basically don't know what to say because I will have to know the terms involved and associated with the funds first before making any attempt as we all know that gambling is risky and nothing is assured In the industry.

With that been said, I think staking morenon soccer and possibly just a single match with more odd and be at peace.
I will do more of soccer betting and that's a win win for me because I feel it might be more safer and less risky as compared to every other ones

First off, I would ensure my buddy understands that gambling is high risk and I could either walk away as a winner or big loser and to save our friendship from crashing after this they need to really have to consent to this.
Casino games not my biggest strengths but for a 6.5X growth some lightening roulette would be my best best otherwise sportsbetting would be my choice of games as this is low risk for me.

I understand what you're trying to say but hear me out first.

Surely that said friend of yours won't come at you to play on his behalf worth 10k of bitcoins if he/she knows that you have no experience when it comes playing at the casino. I don't really think that your friend is that dumb to trust that huge coins if you don't have any experience at all or idea how casino works, but the thing is your friend came at you, so that means that he/she trusted you and that he/she knows that you have some experience when it comes to betting. Anyway, the OP's question depends really on our own perspective.

For that situation by OP, I think we should just let them have their fun. The fact that they are even willing to risk that kind of amount means they are ready to let go of their money. But I think that story won't happen for real not unless that guy is really rich and money is just a piece of paper on him lol.

Sometimes, the worst experience is really necessary to happen for those people to understand what gambling can brings.

I just hope that in case of a worst-case scenario, they will learn afterward, at least.

Turning 10k into 65k is equally not a easy task, as it involves big risk that if you aren't careful, you may end up regretting if it doesn't go as planned. So for me, in other to avoid stories that touch the heart, I will likely carefully gamble on soccer matches that already has the potential of winning or betting on the team that is already winning in it's second half with an interval of 2 goals who has an odd of either 1.1 to 1.5 repeatedly like 10 times, just to be on the safer side.

And please, this is not a financial advise, don't try this at home. Thanks

It would be based on quite a few factors.  First I'd ask them how risky they want me to play.  Going and throwing every penny on black in roulette is extremely risky, while your odds are pretty good, It's a single bet that could end it all right there.  Next I would likely play games that I know I'm good at.  Me personally I'm good at player poker and sports betting.  Regardless I would diversify.  I'd play some poker, roulette, slot machines, sports bets and maybe one or two other things. 

Also it really comes down to time frame.  How much time do you have here?

Gambling that huge amount is highly risky, but if he really insist to take the risk, poker would do but you also have to be the best poker you can be so you have higher chances of winning. Also, I see sportsbetting will also give me higher chances to win since it’s not a luck based game. But I won’t also bet in an event like football since I’m not very particular about it, but most likely on basketball and boxing where I can assure I know the game well.

I'll split it in 5 ($2K) so that makes it $10k and will have me 5 times trying to multiply it. Can't say no to that as he's the one who offered it voluntarily and willingly to share it with me win or lose.
I'll put that 5 sequences into different types of games, sportsbetting, dice, and other games that I know of. When I'm unsuccessful with a game that I've tried, that's when I'll try the other one.

My first thought would be - is this friend very rich and 10k means pocket change to them, they wouldn't care if they lost it or not. For other people 10k might be their life savings that they took 10 years to put together and it could ruin them if they lost it on a long shot gambling. If they were low on money then just tell them to go home as it'll be a waste. Otherwise I'd go for the poker tables where you have a chance of outwitting a fish, but hope that you figure out if you are the fish early on or at least play very tight because otherwise you'll lose all the money quick. No point playing games that have a clear house edge, you might as well flip a coin with a random stranger for double or nothing.

Be it putting a bet on odds ranging from 1.1 - 1.5 in 10 times or higher, to feel the profits, it needs a decent amount at stake on risks. I don't think it's wise to put a decent amount on that just to feel the profits and I'm sure that 10x bet won't be hit at all.

Just think about it, if that kind of strategy is effective, we should see the majority doing it but it's not.

It's better to take things slowly but surely by betting on a match between 1.7-1.8 with a fair amount at risk. At least, they will feel the profits and no need to undergo betting on low odds for 10x. It's more painful to see a decent bet amount losing at such low odds of 1.1, trust me.

as long as it's not your money and it's a friend's money there's nothing wrong with trying to experiment with making money with the capital provided who knows there's luck there even if it's only a little at least a loss it's not your money either

Well, I see that you have "set" a goal, but you also need to know how long you intend to reach it.

If there is no rush, I would bet on sports games, which have an outcome that is easier to predict, but with smaller winnings and would obviously take longer.

If you're in a hurry, then bet on luck, roulette, poker (if you're really good at it), slots and online games.
But even if there is A LOT OF HURRY, a very wrong decision would be to bet all that amount on big bets, the risk of losing would be immensely higher.

I don't know if your situation is real, if so, play with caution and good luck!

I suppose this is the only way to try to fulfill the goals of the friend in question, as poker is a gambling game that is played against other players and not the house, still it is not going to be easy as if the pool of poker players where you live is on the small side then they will know each other very well and they would have reached a state in which neither players losses too much or wins too much, and such an environment is not the appropriate for someone trying to multiply their money by 550%.

No guilt on me if it's not my money and it loses. But the guilt is there to not do anything with others' money but it's with permission so that's totally fine if the situation permitted so.
But the goal is quite high so the chance of losing is higher as usual than hitting the number that the friend has targeted. Too much and that's around 6.5x to grow.

I’d follow his request. But I won’t give him an assurance that everything will fall into its proper place and will end up hitting his expectations. Because gambling is game of losing, but we can always prevent that losses if we gamble with skills and expertise. And because of that, I would prefer to bet on sportsbetting than to lose them all in other games I never know that much. At least, if I can’t end up winning, then I won’t also lose all the amount that was given for me to gamble.

Yup, no guilt as permission belongs to the owner of the money. All you have to do is make your choice and try your luck. If permitted, then you will enjoy. If not, then it happens just like that, right? Nothing to worry or regret since you do your part and you just follow what your friend has from you to do.


If you feel that you are more comfortable using sports betting then why not right, the intention is to win the target amount, you can parlay or choose the underdog which might give you the equal amount of your friend's target profits, whatever it is as long as you are comfortable and you don't promise anything you can pick or choose the venue that you like.

Many times we think that if more money can be deposited and bet then it is possible to multiply the money quickly. My opinion behind this quote is 50-50. I won't say it's impossible to do. Chances are high that you can lose as well. As we know that gambling depends entirely on luck. If I have the specified amount of assets in my wallet, I will try to gamble on the games where I can get the highest guarantee. I will take a well researched bet and if it loses, take a break and try again for another game. I will give utmost importance to not losing control of myself in any way. I think betting according to these things will have more chances to reach the set goal.

You do not have to go live before practicing to awake your rusted knowledge of what you knew in the past. Practice first before throwing cash at it before you make someone loose their money. Your friend will see you as a true friend if you are able to help them increase or double their cash. But if the cash is lost you are likely going to have an angry friend blaming you for losing their cash. Be careful before leading your friend on.

Turn a 10k$ investment into 65k$? that's easy to say but hard to do, unless you hold or control your gambling luck I can still believe it.

We all know that gambling is always about luck, or if you are really an expert you can win at any gambling you choose. Besides that, we know that it is also difficult to beat the house edge or the banker in a casino. But what does the player want to play with me, I will follow what he wants but he must also accept that no matter what happens if the capital of 10k$ is lost, he should not blame me for the loss.

Well, if a friend does invite me to play games for him I would be hesitant at first because he's putting a lot of pressure and responsibility for me to bear and carry for him. Although provided that I do accept the challenge, I would probably play dice games for one, on a trusted live casino of ours to make sure the house isn't getting any unfair advantage over us, as well as a few baccarat games because I find myself quite proficient in the game. I'd play a little blackjack too for fun but I wouldn't really expect to win because I'm not that great in it, but this would be the games I will play. No particular pattern or technique as that will only complicate things with no guarantee of ever increasing your odds of winning big.

Yeah, it just happened when you have just lost that money. Don't feel guilty as the owner of the money is the one to ask you to gamble with it.
And you're lucky to have that type of friend or person that you know if they ask you to gamble with their money and want to have this 'xx' amount of money to grow with it. Just make sure that there are no twists or some special condition that will be favorable to him if ever the money has completely lost on your hands.

If 10k is an amount of money he is willing to lose based on his capacity and on account of that it wouldn't affect his standard of living then am gamed with him trying to use 10k to make 65k just maybe luck could smile at us or end up mocking us as the case might be ;D
I am more into football games, and I will look out on placing 1k on each bet playing over-2. 5  or GG with 10 selected games, am sure potential win might be around that 10k. Using this pattern at ten different times there's a possibility of hitting a  one win.

So you mean to say that if one friend ask another to risk 10K, then the friend should agree to this and should not guide the other side of gambling where people lose all their money in gambling  ???

Being friend, it is our moral duty to tell our near and dear ones, the consequences of gambling. If he does not have the correct vision, we should guide him that while making 65K, he can end up all his seed money too. Gambling is full of risk.

Gambling is all about losing, so we should not expect for our capital to double or triple even if we have the skills in gambling. Gambling offers no guarantee for money making, because it’s always designed for an entertainment, and not the other way around. So if that friend insists to gamble that huge amount, I will always do my best to win but he should also be aware that in gambling there’s always inevitable losses especially if the games are giving high edge to the house.

Honestly, the story itself is too far to happen in reality. It takes a billionaire to spend 10k btc and ready to lose them all. Because if I were to ask to gamble that amount, I would rather ask him even a single btc first before I start to gamble all the amount. For sure, I can’t give guarantees that we will make it to 65k, but if ever I’ll be lucky that day, then there will always be chances to win rather than losing everything I have. But for all we know, gambling is always uncertain, so we should not just totally rely on it.

This is a big risk which I wouldn't wanna involve myself so that in case I am out of luck, I wouldn't be responsible for any damages or loses. There is no bet that is that secure in the gambling world and that is why we keep having more gambling casinos coming live to attract gamblers to keep playing on there platform. There is no investment that is safe and it is also rate to gambling. The question here is that what if you could not reach your target or aim of gambling? Although those who uses large funds to gamble know how to get there money back even it's going to take many days or weeks.

I believe the friend already knows the consequences of gambling.  He knows the higher possibility of losing than winning.  We are not the only one who is capable of thinking you know ;D. It is even possible that they are more capable of critical thinking and decisions. I agree that if we think that they are being a stray we should remind them and lead them to what we think is the right direction.  But a friend with a fund and invited us to play gambling with him, I think do know what he is doing.


Not really, as long as you make it clear and let him know that whatever the result is, has nothing to do with you.

AFAIK, Gambling has some kinda "give and take" logic. It's seems you're really confident on the options you made out which could be a reason why you won't get to win at first... sometimes, it's turns out the other way.. I'm seeing gambling as a game of Chance and experience -- experience in the sense that you've known the strength and capability of tops teams already, and you've analyzed through Thier previous performances .... from that, you could easily bet on an option (but that doesn't still make those predictions accurate anyways....it matters atimes)..... What I'm seeing is just a greedy Juvenile, who's caught up in the midst of playing mind games and hoping it comes to reality...lol

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I bet his friend already knew the consequence and that losses is inevitable when it comes to gambling, but despite knowing those said facts, his friend still chose to trust him and let him play with those 10k bitcoin with the hopes that somehow it will double or tripe at the end of the day, although the chances are just slim but never know, he and his friend might be lucky in that day.

But if it's me, I'd politely decline. Playing with 10k worth of bitcoins is too much for me to handle especially after the fact that those coins are just trusted to me and the friendship is much more important as I'm sure if those 10k BTC lost, then it's safe to assume that our friendship will be too.

The question is why a friend will put us in such a difficult situation? Obviously we will want to help them as they are our friend, but at the same time we know that long term it is impossible to beat the house as the edge they have over the player has a significant effect and the more you gamble the more evident it becomes, so why does he not gamble that money by himself? Now his request could make sense if we were professional gamblers but since most of us are not then the only correct choice would be to reject his offer.

Just dont make out some assurances into your friend about on being successful with those targets because nothing could really be assured off if we do talk about gambling.
there's no way that we could really be able to be sure  that we would win on a particular situation even if your friend does tell you on spending that amount then
for sure you would really be having questions in mind on how the heck he would be allowing me to bet if he could do it on his own? Is this type of believe
that he had in mind that it might turn out to be a lucky if you do able to make others bets for you? Just make no sense.

I'll pass on dice since I'm playing it from 2014 up to now. I'll go with mines and dragon tower. I find these two very interesting when I tried them. I'm gonna choose just 1 in Mines and Easy on Dragon Tower. I'm gonna play extra careful since it's not my money and with that bankroll, pretty sure that friend will not tip me less when the outcome is good.

I'm going to accept this offer only if our relationship will be the same even if the result is not a green.

There is a possibility that you can win it, but it is only 49% likely since the chance of losing is 51%. In gambling, you are lucky if you win, but if you lose, that is really your destiny since gambling is for fun and not for profit. Unless both of you are just planning to spend that huge amount of money just for fun, The only speculation that I can think of about why he is allowing someone to play with those big amounts of money is that either he trusts his friend and wants to serve as a lucky charm, or he is just a rich guy that wants to sort of give away those funds.

That will add entertainment and enjoyment if you manage to win, though just like what we always saying there's no guarantee that you can double or more than that with your gambling activities, doing your best is on you and it's on luck that will back your gambling to bring a decent amount of profits.

Nothing else but pure luck that will give you the outcome that both you and your friend are aiming.

Keep in mind that aside from entertainment, gambling also brings stress and pressure hehehe..

You can enjoy more without feeling any pressure with you both agreed on this.
Gambling is not guaranteed though even if you think you are good on a specific game, so better not to accept the offer easily without clarifying this one. I didn't experience this one yet, but I hope my friend can trust me that much and allows me to use his money for gambling, it takes a lot of trust.

If he insists that it should be me who will play or gamble and your friend is the one who provide the funds. There won't be any pressure on my side since it's not my money but I should also be careful with what I do. Putting the funds in 1 hand is very risky and it could result in losing most of the funds if not all. Before that happens is that I would tell my friend that the result might not what he expected to happen when I started yo gamble.

I very much agree with this.

Before accepting the offer, it must be clarified first that the agreement includes all the possible outcomes of the gambling betting and plays. There must be a clear agreement of accepting whatever the results may be - whether positive or negative. This is because the friendship is the biggest at stake here aside from the fund that will be risked.

It's much better or should I say that it's the best to make a move after laying all the terms first. Trusting someone is tricky as hell nowadays. If you have a friend that is willing to entrust you his fund and be okay with whatever the aftermath will be, you have such a good companion.

Beforehand, I will make confirm if he/she is really serious and is open to whatever happen during the session. I will explain to him the odds from different games (e.g., slots, live games, in-house games, etc.)
If we proceed, I will play in both slots and live games such as blackjack and bacarrat. Might also try playing roullete.

Great, First you should clear everything to your friend like odds, risk etc.  Because your friend may blame you when you lose gambling.  Since your friend will provide the funds for gambling. So your friend must clear everything.  So that your friend can't blame you. Then you can try to profit by gambling in any medium.  And if you can make good profit to your friend then it is good for him

Poker, roulette or probably on dice. These are the games that I might choose if he will give that $10K to me and I'll play for it.

Well, let's remove the scenario where he will sue you if you lose the money and the like because in reality, no gambler will give that huge amount to other gambler and will let him/her play. That's pure stupidity if it will happen in real life.

I don't any other games aside from those 3 games and since the OP said that it's on the casino, I'll play on those 3 games. If there are sports betting, then I would rather go sports betting.

In the world of gambling we can not predict the outcome when we bet. If have given a chance go and play and A friend will give me 10k$ to spend in gambling then I will make an agreement first, like I'll Tell him or her that the outcome is unpredictable which there's a chances of losses so making an agreement that once I lost he or she will not going to mad at me as I explain to him or her already the consequences.

That is the thing about gambling, you know you shouldn't do it and you do it anyway and that's the biggest difference for most people. I mean if you could double your money that would be awesome, but most people look at it like it's something normal and not interesting, and that causes people to not really realize what they are doing and what they should do.

I believe that the best thing to do would be understanding the potential we have with crypto and if we could just stop gambling instead of trying to double, or just have fun then it would be great. I try to have fun as much as I possibly can and that is the best way to approach it for sure.

Well, I'm not a gambling/bets expert, so I'm careful not to give too many advices

But I believe this is relative, sometimes you have to bet in a rational way to not lose everything, I believe, blackjack and sports betting can be something interesting, split the money and bet, but with caution.

Easy, poker.  A game that you can determine your fate.  If good enough the odds lay in your favor.  All other games against the house the odds are stacked in the houses favor.  Playing high stakes poker is actually a lot easier than playing real cheap handed poker.  The higher the stakes and your skill level the higher probability of reaching 65k.  Most other choices like the one you describe are all long shots.

Yes, it might be best first you and your friend to clear things up before moving on the betting platform or whatever casino that you guys are more comfortable to gamble the funds with. And, let it be clear on your side that there's no guarantee that the said funds will gain huge profits at the end of the day because the truth is, your chances to win would be never that high because the advantages belongs to the casino already. So, it'll be a battle of luck.

I disagree, gambling is about testing our luck, now losing big and losing more is up to our decision.  Gambling if controlled can give us good profits.  That is quitting while we are ahead and playing again after some time for a fresh session.  I do agree that we shouldn't expect too much though because it will be a disappointment if we do since prolonging our session in gambling will oftentimes drain our bankroll.  I often experience this by having my bankroll increase to 2x and being greedy playing longer in hopes to make it x3 often ends up in an empty bankroll.  This means the control of whether we end up with a positive bankroll depends on our luck and our decision to stop.

It doesn't really matter if you start a fresh session or you gamble all in one session.

The math is still the same, and it basically means that the house will win in the long term.

You would need to win big and then never ever gamble again to actually end up positive against the house.

The issue is that the whole gambling industry is designed to keep people gambling as long as they can and coming back all the time(free drinks, food, no sign of time passing, etc), because they know that in the long term they will win given the odds they are offering.

Maybe we can do that and it's really good if our friend is someone who can understand the risks of playing gambling so he won't blame us if we lose. But not all friends can be like that because some will be angry when they see us lose and don't show it directly. We have to worry about it because gambling can result in damaged friendships already there. And maybe it's better not to use all the money because there is a risk factor behind gambling so we would say that this can trigger emotions to rise and in the end we will gamble with all the money.

I agree because when someone of my friend will ask me for gamble for him then he/she must take risk. because i will never take any responsibility for that. because when i will able to make profit then he will never give me any extra money to me. then why i should take responsibility for him money. i can agree to gamble when he will agree to take his own risk. it is only truth

I would advise him/her to try sports betting directly. I believe best payer for risk taken is sports betting in general. Other kinds of gambling are more a fun thing to me. Maybe except cards you know, cards can be less luck based if you are good at memorizing and if you have extra ordinary talent to calculate every possible move. But games like slots are best to gamble with less amount of money than usual. Because its more about having fun. Also I would warn my friend saying he should be responsible.

i agree when you say sports betting but i disagree when you say blackjack.
because for me blackjack has a bigger chance of losing compared to sports betting. Because blackjack is hard to predict compared to sports betting it is so easy to analyze which team will win.
because for me sports betting is very easy to make bets carefully. because sports betting we only need research about the team that we will place our bets on and it is very clear that if a team that has often won against a team that rarely wins, we will definitely be able to predict it.