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December 27, 2022, 03:08:49 PM
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I would have refused if he had asked me to play his money in the casino. I'd better advise him to keep the money because there's no guarantee we'll make any money gambling. Especially if it is a roulette game, we know that the game is based on luck, and if we don't have luck, we will lose and spend all the money without recovering it. It wouldn't be good if he saw defeat and lost all his money or only lost half of all his money still wouldn't make him feel good. And that can trigger him to try to recover his losses by placing another bet.
sometimes even though we accept it there is an awkward and uncomfortable feeling for our friends if in the end they lose and lose money, even though our friends can use the money to invest in crypto don't use it to play gambling because we are not completely lucky sometimes we also don't know our unlucky day
That's what I don't want to happen between us because that's what will happen even though we are best friends. Maybe he won't ask for his money back, but as friends, we feel bad for him and will say we'll give him all his money back. That is why I refuse to use the money because there is a risk of losing it, and I will never know how much money will be spent on gambling later.

I would have refused if he had asked me to play his money in the casino. I'd better advise him to keep the money because there's no guarantee we'll make any money gambling. Especially if it is a roulette game, we know that the game is based on luck, and if we don't have luck, we will lose and spend all the money without recovering it. It wouldn't be good if he saw defeat and lost all his money or only lost half of all his money still wouldn't make him feel good. And that can trigger him to try to recover his losses by placing another bet.

Without luck the outcome will always be on the favor of the house, better to advise not contnue or use his money instead and let him enjoy whatever the outcome instead of letting him force you to play in hs behalf, roulette is something that you might win again if luck is there to back you up, but if there's none then expect to suffer and lose your capital.
Precisely. The house is bound to take all its money from the losing gambler. And we imagine if we lose all the money and our friends grieve over the loss of the money. We will surely feel sad and sorry for him because we are also a part of it. We also never know when our luck will come. Therefore, we better refuse to use the money.

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December 27, 2022, 04:02:37 PM
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That's too risky and for sure that there is no guarantee that you will win, and it is a bit of luck if you ever won. The question is if you are really an experienced gambler and have tactics for winning the game. Also, what if you lose the money? What would be your excuse?

Eventually the person will lose the money, and the friend.

It's a no win situation, I wouldn't do that at all.

Everyone should gamble whatever they want, without involving other people, that's just asking for trouble.
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December 27, 2022, 04:31:04 PM
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They always say that we shouldn't involve gambling and money in friendship because it could easily ruin relationships. That will be a risky offer and your friend might only blame you if every you'll lose in gambling. Let him decide on his own and never get involved in it. As a friend, you can also advise him not to risk a huge amount of money in gambling if he aims to make a profit. Never decide for your friend's fortune in gambling.

And as I posted before, that it would be very risky to risk money that is not ours. the reason is, in the OP thread story a friend offered to stake 10k and wanted to double it to 65k with a luck based type of gamble. if we win we are very lucky, if we lose maybe what you say could happen. hence, why we refuse to get involved. as a friend, i will not forbid him with what he is planning.

maybe, I will provide input for playing just for fun without targeting large amounts of wins. Oftentimes, someone who targets high winnings from gambling will end up losing. moreover, gambling based on luck. i like to play roulette, blackjack, baccarat, or any other kind of gambling. but just just for fun, nothing more. so, from what the Op asked in the thread. I will choose to bet with personal capital, rather than having to bear the burden and risk of losing.

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December 27, 2022, 05:37:46 PM
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That's too risky and for sure that there is no guarantee that you will win, and it is a bit of luck if you ever won. The question is if you are really an experienced gambler and have tactics for winning the game. Also, what if you lose the money? What would be your excuse?

Eventually the person will lose the money, and the friend.

It's a no win situation, I wouldn't do that at all.

Everyone should gamble whatever they want, without involving other people, that's just asking for trouble.
I am on a different opinion here, it's not a big deal to ask for help, especially from a gambler you know that is more experienced than you. It depends on the situation, it's only when you and the friend are equal in gambling skills that I would have preferred your own disposition about this. A friend had helped me out with a football betting ticket before that worked better than I could have played it. So we should know our level of gambling before being rigid about this.

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December 27, 2022, 06:22:59 PM
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I do not need to be a genius to know that gambling other people's money is always a bad idea.
At first I would try to convince my friend not to gamble that much but rather invest it, if he insisted I think I would try to go for live poker. I would try to learn more and improve my technique first, since it has been a long time since I played it.

The other options would be dices, but that would be too risky, in my opinion.

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December 27, 2022, 06:32:34 PM
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That's too risky and for sure that there is no guarantee that you will win, and it is a bit of luck if you ever won. The question is if you are really an experienced gambler and have tactics for winning the game. Also, what if you lose the money? What would be your excuse?

Eventually the person will lose the money, and the friend.

It's a no win situation, I wouldn't do that at all.

Everyone should gamble whatever they want, without involving other people, that's just asking for trouble.
That is why I would ask him first for no complaints in case of losing the bankroll entirely or partially. If he agreed with this condition I would be fine in going ahead and gambling some traditional games like crash, mines, dice, limbo, blackjack, plinko until reaching his goal or until going busted. However, if he expressed any discomfort with the loss possibility, I would tell him to find someone else to gamble with his funds or to gamble by himself. Anyway, from 10,000$ to 65,000$ is a long road to pass through and the chances of succeeding are minimal.

A better idea would be to go from 10,000$ to 15,000$ or 20,000$ only. Probably I would try to convince him about it as well.

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December 27, 2022, 08:31:57 PM
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I do not need to be a genius to know that gambling other people's money is always a bad idea.
At first I would try to convince my friend not to gamble that much but rather invest it, if he insisted I think I would try to go for live poker. I would try to learn more and improve my technique first, since it has been a long time since I played it.

The other options would be dices, but that would be too risky, in my opinion.

If you can position yourself that way with your friend then it is much better, I agree that convincing him to invest is far better than to risk his money into gambling, it's a bad idea if you or your friend value his money, but if he doesn't care for those two options that you have may be good but always remember that it's luck that will let you win, maybe some strategy but more on the influence of luck.
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That's too risky and for sure that there is no guarantee that you will win, and it is a bit of luck if you ever won. The question is if you are really an experienced gambler and have tactics for winning the game. Also, what if you lose the money? What would be your excuse?

Eventually the person will lose the money, and the friend.

It's a no win situation, I wouldn't do that at all.

Everyone should gamble whatever they want, without involving other people, that's just asking for trouble.
That is why I would ask him first for no complaints in case of losing the bankroll entirely or partially. If he agreed with this condition I would be fine in going ahead and gambling some traditional games like crash, mines, dice, limbo, blackjack, plinko until reaching his goal or until going busted. However, if he expressed any discomfort with the loss possibility, I would tell him to find someone else to gamble with his funds or to gamble by himself. Anyway, from 10,000$ to 65,000$ is a long road to pass through and the chances of succeeding are minimal.

A better idea would be to go from 10,000$ to 15,000$ or 20,000$ only. Probably I would try to convince him about it as well.

getting the approval will give you the go signal to whatever games you prefer, but having a good control is your responsibilities with your friends money, still hard to take it up even he won't blame you for real if you lose the money but regret will always be there.

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Eventually the person will lose the money, and the friend.

It's a no win situation, I wouldn't do that at all.

Everyone should gamble whatever they want, without involving other people, that's just asking for trouble.
That is why I would ask him first for no complaints in case of losing the bankroll entirely or partially. If he agreed with this condition I would be fine in going ahead and gambling some traditional games like crash, mines, dice, limbo, blackjack, plinko until reaching his goal or until going busted. However, if he expressed any discomfort with the loss possibility, I would tell him to find someone else to gamble with his funds or to gamble by himself. Anyway, from 10,000$ to 65,000$ is a long road to pass through and the chances of succeeding are minimal.

A better idea would be to go from 10,000$ to 15,000$ or 20,000$ only. Probably I would try to convince him about it as well.
This would seem like a good choice but I doubt it will work at all, this is because people accept all kind of things without even thinking about it, but once they have to face the consequences of their actions they try to avoid them and blame everyone but themselves about it, and this market is a good example of this, how many times we have warned newbies to not invest in coins which are cams in the forum? Many times I suppose and the newbies simply say that they have everything under control and that nothing will happen to them, but once it does they get mad about the results they get even if they were warned about them, and they try to push the blame on someone else, so I think the same will happen here even if you warned them about the possibility of losing their money.
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December 27, 2022, 08:56:21 PM
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Acually I don't have that kind of friends who will give me 10k usdt for playing in casino. Still if someone ever gives I think, then I will first divide it into several parts and especially I will invest a good amount in sports betting than in casino. Even then there is also more options games in casino what I like is blackjack , poker and some slot. And I also don't invest all funds at once .


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Acually I don't have that kind of friends who will give me 10k usdt for playing in casino. Still if someone ever gives I think, then I will first divide it into several parts and especially I will invest a good amount in sports betting than in casino. Even then there is also more options games in casino what I like is blackjack , poker and some slot. And I also don't invest all funds at once .


Really impossible right? Even be given out $10 would really be hard if you do ask me basing up on real situation which it turns out to be unrealistic kind of scenario or moment which someone of your friends would really let you bet on the amount which is considered to be big already without having any conditions or something agreement.Even if he's a rich guy then there's no way for a certain person would really be just too confident
on making their 10k to be bet by someone even with your closest friend or even with your siblings which it cant really just be possible.This is why if ever this one do happens
and what if's then there are lots of games and types which you can play.

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Acually I don't have that kind of friends who will give me 10k usdt for playing in casino. Still if someone ever gives I think, then I will first divide it into several parts and especially I will invest a good amount in sports betting than in casino. Even then there is also more options games in casino what I like is blackjack , poker and some slot. And I also don't invest all funds at once .



I also don't have a friend that will give, let me borrow, or even let me risk a generous amount for a bet. This is because this subject matter is a really risky one. The moment the supposed player messed up, then it's all over. The friendship will be gone and so is the money if ever the result would be consecutive losses.

Although if I would have, I probably would also allot much of it to sports betting because that is what I'm inclined to compared to casino games. Strategy and knowledge, together with good smart guessing and gut feeling are what you need in sports betting that will make your chances of winning higher if ever you possess more or all of it.

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10k in BTC to make it $65k? I will tell him to shove it up his ass. First things first, how much will I get if I ever make it happen?
Next thing I want to know is why would he trust me with that amount? Where did he get the money? Is he stupid enough to let me handle such a big amount just to gamble it?
What if I lose?
I'd say, there's no such thing as a friend and if ever there is and he don't care how much will be gone in his pocket then I'd pick any and just put it all in.
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I would have refused if he had asked me to play his money in the casino. I'd better advise him to keep the money because there's no guarantee we'll make any money gambling. Especially if it is a roulette game, we know that the game is based on luck, and if we don't have luck, we will lose and spend all the money without recovering it. It wouldn't be good if he saw defeat and lost all his money or only lost half of all his money still wouldn't make him feel good. And that can trigger him to try to recover his losses by placing another bet.
sometimes even though we accept it there is an awkward and uncomfortable feeling for our friends if in the end they lose and lose money, even though our friends can use the money to invest in crypto don't use it to play gambling because we are not completely lucky sometimes we also don't know our unlucky day
That's what I don't want to happen between us because that's what will happen even though we are best friends. Maybe he won't ask for his money back, but as friends, we feel bad for him and will say we'll give him all his money back. That is why I refuse to use the money because there is a risk of losing it, and I will never know how much money will be spent on gambling later.
yes, even if we refuse, it's like we don't appreciate his good intentions, but on the other hand, we also don't want him to spend money and lose money that could possibly be used and useful for his family's needs, refusing in a subtle way or giving a little advice to our own friends that the dealer will always win

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If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.



what would you do

Damn that is some huge amount of money to gamble with. At first I would deny him to play with such an amount.
But if he still insists then I would go for my favorite games which are crash and dice.
Also, we could bet together on some sport matches and get the thrill of winning those bets.

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If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.



what would you do

I basically don't know what to say because I will have to know the terms involved and associated with the funds first before making any attempt as we all know that gambling is risky and nothing is assured In the industry.

With that been said, I think staking morenon soccer and possibly just a single match with more odd and be at peace.
I will do more of soccer betting and that's a win win for me because I feel it might be more safer and less risky as compared to every other ones
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If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k.
First off, I would ensure my buddy understands that gambling is high risk and I could either walk away as a winner or big loser and to save our friendship from crashing after this they need to really have to consent to this.
You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?
what would you do
Casino games not my biggest strengths but for a 6.5X growth some lightening roulette would be my best best otherwise sportsbetting would be my choice of games as this is low risk for me.

 
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December 28, 2022, 06:31:29 PM
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If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.



what would you do
They always say that we shouldn't involve gambling and money in friendship because it could easily ruin relationships. That will be a risky offer and your friend might only blame you if every you'll lose in gambling. Let him decide on his own and never get involved in it. As a friend, you can also advise him not to risk a huge amount of money in gambling if he aims to make a profit. Never decide for your friend's fortune in gambling.

I understand what you're trying to say but hear me out first.

Surely that said friend of yours won't come at you to play on his behalf worth 10k of bitcoins if he/she knows that you have no experience when it comes playing at the casino. I don't really think that your friend is that dumb to trust that huge coins if you don't have any experience at all or idea how casino works, but the thing is your friend came at you, so that means that he/she trusted you and that he/she knows that you have some experience when it comes to betting. Anyway, the OP's question depends really on our own perspective.

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 #139

Who told you that winning is certain in gambling? If I was the one being asked to play for his/her money, I'd refuse. Winning is never certain in this industry and if I'd play that money, the blame could be on me (even if he/she's the one to ask the favor). Another thing is some sort of regret perhaps you'd win from that amount; think of your gain if that was your capital. So just to be safe from any negative outcome, prevent it in the first place. To those people who'd say "why would he blame you if that amount would loss if he/she is your friend?". Please grow up. It is money we are talking about and it is something which has value. Again, never think that gambling is a shortcut to being rich. Think of how many people gone broke because of this activity.

For that situation by OP, I think we should just let them have their fun. The fact that they are even willing to risk that kind of amount means they are ready to let go of their money. But I think that story won't happen for real not unless that guy is really rich and money is just a piece of paper on him lol.

Sometimes, the worst experience is really necessary to happen for those people to understand what gambling can brings.

I just hope that in case of a worst-case scenario, they will learn afterward, at least.

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December 28, 2022, 07:49:53 PM
 #140

If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.

what would you do
Turning 10k into 65k is equally not a easy task, as it involves big risk that if you aren't careful, you may end up regretting if it doesn't go as planned. So for me, in other to avoid stories that touch the heart, I will likely carefully gamble on soccer matches that already has the potential of winning or betting on the team that is already winning in it's second half with an interval of 2 goals who has an odd of either 1.1 to 1.5 repeatedly like 10 times, just to be on the safer side.

And please, this is not a financial advise, don't try this at home. Thanks

 
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