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Title: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Crypt0Gore on January 14, 2023, 08:23:14 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Jating on January 14, 2023, 08:30:22 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

It's obvious, if you give your personal info and it by chance it was leaked to the public or to the bad actors then they can used it. There are cases in some altcoin projects that the personal info of some bounty hunters and their customers and investors have been breached and it went down to the black market and the hackers sold it there.

I guess it's the responsibility of the casino itself to really protect our data. Not sure if casinos are required to be like GDPR compliant.

https://gdpr.eu/


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: lionheart78 on January 14, 2023, 08:32:29 AM
It looks like it is a norm for a casino to require KYC when they are following regulation.  I believe it is wrong for a Casino to require KYC if they are not licensed since they are not subjected to the user privacy law and they can use the collected data of their userbase however they wanted.  Casino without a license is operating illegally so we are not sure a bout the security of our data.  On the other side, licensed casino are required by the regulators to do KYC for AML and I believe they are covered with privacy law which make them subject to penalty or punishment if they failed to protect their user database.  In case of hack, that is not intended but probably some cases will arise from it and at most users are compensated.

If you are not comfortable with KYC then better avoid platform that requires KYC, after all no one is pushing you to subscribe for their services and undergo KYC.

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

Giving a fake KYC is a wrong move it will lead to your account being banned in case they discover your fraud.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Johnyz on January 14, 2023, 08:40:17 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
Giving out your false information might cause you a trouble in the future, better not to put too much money on that so your account still be safe from any investigation.
If you are not ok with the KYC better not to gamble on that site at all and just go to other option since there are still site that are KYC free. KYC is slowly becoming a thing now, most of the site already requires a general information and that can allow you to gamble already there might be a limitation but at least you can start gambling by just giving out your full name.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: joeperry on January 14, 2023, 08:41:33 AM
That's definitely a wrong approach. It should be either you give right information or don't play in that casino as the outcome will definitely the same, they will confiscate your money. If you are not comfortable giving your personal information then you shouldn't play in the first place because at some point they will actually ask that one as per their terms and conditions. But what have you done is giving wrong information which if they couldn't verify then they have the rights to close your account and confiscate it.

There's nothing you can do anymore, even if you tell them the truth the one that you submitted will be their main basis if the account is yours or not.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: acroman08 on January 14, 2023, 08:58:09 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
yes, it is the wrong approach. you've been here in the forum for more than a year, I am sure you've seen posts on scam accusations and gambling board from people here in the forum about them providing wrong information on their KYC and getting banned and their funds being confiscated after being found out.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: passwordnow on January 14, 2023, 09:08:15 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
You just have two options, either to comply or to find another casino that doesn't enforce KYC until they have to. Most casinos today will have you required to comply with it.
But as long as you're not the big type of gambler and you've got a consistent yet low cash flow on your account then they're most unlikely to require you with KYC. As much as they don't want to get onto kyc for their customers, they also have no option but to do it to follow the regulatory rules that's been placed on them.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Fortify on January 14, 2023, 09:08:52 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

It's a catch-22 situation. Companies that are headquartered in places like Europe often have a legal requirement to gather such documentation from their customers in an effort to combat illegal activities, which can be good for customers because if anyone gets ripped off you have a stable justice system that can benefit the customer if things went badly wrong. However it can also be abused by bad actors who pretend to be legitimate companies in order to harvest this sort of document data which can be used by criminals to do things like take loans or credit cards out in someone elses name. Even good and bad companies can also have their systems hacked if not setup correctly, which can release these highly sensitive documents too.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Cryptomiles1 on January 14, 2023, 09:18:05 AM
One thing you should always have in mind is that, providing a wrong details will run you into much trouble. There are some platform that requires facial verifications and if it happens the details you sent to them aren't alike with your face then it could lead you to account restriction or disabling it and if you had any funds in there, then that could be the end. I suggest prefer to use your proper identity to pass kyc.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: swogerino on January 14, 2023, 09:21:17 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

It is a risk anyone should consider before joining in such entity.The casinos usually have a great technical and cybersecurity team behind them but we have seen giants of technology being breached so anything can happen even to such businesses.

There is no better solution as of yet but you should be aware that once a hacker breaches a casino all the confidential data may become publicly available for anyone to see,usually by putting it on sale in a dark web market.After you think about the scenarios do as you think then,join or not join.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: LoyceMobile on January 14, 2023, 09:31:30 AM
My name isn't LoyceMobile, and your name isn't Crypt0Gore. So it's safe to say it depends on the site. If a site requires KYC and you don't want to share your real name, don't use the site. They usually allow you to deposit but ask for paperwork to withdraw.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: BobK71 on January 14, 2023, 09:58:53 AM
Providing your personal information for any casinos that are not yet licensed may be risky. In this case you must either get a good idea about that casino or else you have to join another new platform where there is no need any KYC. Nowadays such activities often happen where information is stolen and used elsewhere. Those who are conscious people must review these matters seriously. It is important when a gambler normally makes large bets but these are not a big deal for the average gamblers.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Jawhead999 on January 14, 2023, 10:04:39 AM
Providing wrong personal details is similar like just waiting a bomb exploding in the future, if you don't want to submit any personal information to a casino, just don't play in that's casino. Licensed casino is very strict and they have a lot terms of service, I believe they've a rule to not allow their user to submit fake information. If they ask you to submit KYC and it's not same with information you've inputted, don't surprised if they will confiscate your funds.

Anyway Freebitco is the only one trusted zero KYC casino in this forum.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Coin_trader on January 14, 2023, 10:15:10 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Nope. You are pointing your asset in danger once you deposit your money on the casino with a fake identity because sooner or later they will ask you to do KYC since it’s inevitable. Your funds will be frozen forever since there’s no way you can verify fake credentials that you submit. Casino with license always has the tendency to ask you a KYC so it’s better to provide real details or stay away if you really want to protect your identity.

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

It’s obviously wrong approach because you are breaking the ToS by providing fake credentials. It’s absurd to fake and the only person that faking there credentials are those scammers and money launderer that using the casino illegally. There’s no other way to bypass KYC rather than abstaining on playing.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: mindrust on January 14, 2023, 10:19:37 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

Nothing can go wrong for you if you provide wrong information. At worst your account will get locked and that’s if they do serious KYC.

Lots of things can go wrong if you do full KYC and give true information however. Lots of exchanges got hacked before and their customers’ info has been leaked. Often these passport scans, selfies get sold in the dark web. You don’t want that crap to happen to you believe me.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Ulven on January 14, 2023, 10:34:35 AM
Providing false information to a website, especially in an effort to maintain anonymity, is generally not a good idea. If the website or platform is legitimate, they may have terms of service that prohibit this behavior and could result in your account being suspended or terminated. Additionally, if the website is hacked or experiences a data breach, your false information could be compromised along with your real information.
If a site requires Know Your Customer (KYC) verification, and you are not comfortable providing your real name, you may choose not to use the site. some sites may allow you to deposit without verification, but require it to withdraw funds.
It's important to keep in mind that KYC requirements are often put in place to comply with laws and regulations designed to prevent money laundering and other financial crimes. So, if you choose to use a site that requires KYC, it's important to be aware of the potential risks and understand the terms and conditions of the site before providing any personal information.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Zilon on January 14, 2023, 10:35:53 AM
Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
Of what use is KYC if you can provide wrong information, and it still allows for easy withdrawals. It is a risky approach because it might allow for easy deposit and bet but when it is time to withdraw your deposit it might get complicated. The best approach is to stick to non-KYC casinos that way you can gamble anonymously with your data withheld from the public.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: iv4n on January 14, 2023, 11:03:40 AM
Providing wrong personal details is similar like just waiting a bomb exploding in the future, if you don't want to submit any personal information to a casino, just don't play in that's casino....

Very nicely explained, using other people's documents is bad for many reasons, not to mention that whoever does it can easily lose the account and all the money on it at any moment. We all like to stay anonymous, but this is not the solution to that.

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Anyway Freebitco is the only one trusted zero KYC casino in this forum.

I don't like KYC, I always look for services (gambling/trading/cashing out) without mandatory KYC, but I will do it if it's really necessary. The good thing is there are still alternatives, zero KYC alternatives. Instead of cheating OP should look for them...



Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Hypnosis00 on January 14, 2023, 11:08:19 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?
You'd better not do that as this is not the best solution to that problem. You may not be caught easily but can happen in the future when they ask you again to do KYC. Better find sites that don't ask KYC, not by using other profile for this is not just a serious offense but could possibly ruin others life ( the original owner of that profile).
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Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
It was hard to keep anonymous this time as the KYC has been a requirement to register and use their platform but I don't think that was a big deal if we only use known and legit sites.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Maus0728 on January 14, 2023, 11:19:40 AM
Same thoughts with other members. To give you an overview which casino require KYC or not, then here is a list.
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0

Just take note of what other players advise you to do for your own benefit, as failing to do so could get you in serious trouble with the casino's owner if it turns out that you provided false information when you were not supposed to.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: piebeyb on January 14, 2023, 11:20:28 AM
Actually, if you are just a small gambler, you usually only fill in your personal data, you don't need to send your identity, but if you are a big gambler, just in case you should avoid casino sites that implement KYC because you are worried that when you withdraw large you will be asked to fill in your personal KYC data, but if want to be safe you can play decentralized casino


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Cantsay on January 14, 2023, 11:32:24 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

Giving out wrong personal information sometimes might end up hurting you. For example we have some site that do not allow the editing of personal information once they have been saved so whenever you encounter any issue like withdrawal problem in the casino or anywhere it might be if peradventure they should request that you verify that you are truly the owner of the account by providing a government issued id card that contains the Wrong information you gave them. You see that's one thing to consider.

Although I'm not a fan of KYCed casino that's why I prefer to go with those ones that don't require KYC for example Moonbet doesn't require KYC so you could consider trying it out, if you're okay with it.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Accardo on January 14, 2023, 11:40:24 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
Giving out your false information might cause you a trouble in the future, better not to put too much money on that so your account still be safe from any investigation.
If you are not ok with the KYC better not to gamble on that site at all and just go to other option since there are still site that are KYC free. KYC is slowly becoming a thing now, most of the site already requires a general information and that can allow you to gamble already there might be a limitation but at least you can start gambling by just giving out your full name.

No registered casino would want to be held responsible for money laundering, that's why KYC is a strict rule for most casinos. The government wouldn't mind if a casino is registered or not before taking them to court after getting caught of money laundering.

Although, it's possible for Op to achieve his tricks, but the possibility is thin and he might get caught. I'd say, Op, should focus on crypto casino; pays withdrawal in cryptocurrency other than bank. Casinos like Gamdom are so good without any KYC required for new users. But, if he persists about playing with one casino that accepts KYC then you can hire somebody or a partner to snap themselves and bypass their requirements. It works fine, but the person is meant to be available when next KYC is required. Some people don't care about giving out their data online, pay them to render such services to you.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Gyfts on January 14, 2023, 11:40:49 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Your personal information is at the websites whim. If their system gets hacked, your information is vulnerable. If a corrupt government wants to send a nonsensical subpoena, they will most likely comply. Under no circumstances should you submit to KYC to a provider you do not trust.

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

There isn't a way around KYC if the platform has your funds as leverage, so I'm not sure what alternative you're looking for here. I wouldn't touch KYC platforms to begin with.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: nakamura12 on January 14, 2023, 11:58:32 AM
I respect your decision if you prefer being anonymous but if you provide false personal information and they accepted your account then nothing to worry about it as long as they never find out that you just provided them personal information that is not yours. Anyway, if they dig more about the information and found out that there's no record in the system on which country you are in if they can do that then your account will most likely getting banned from their platform. If they can't find anything or they can't then nothing will happen and you can continue to do what you want. When something happen to the platform then there's nothing you can do but find another casino to gamble. KYC is normal nowadays because of money laundering which they don't want to be held responsible.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: danherbias07 on January 14, 2023, 12:12:57 PM
When it comes to big amounts of withdrawals you might bump into some problems if you do that especially, if there will be a time they will ask you for proof of identification. This is not a recommended move and will just end up with future problems.
Most of us don't want to give out information about ourselves but there's a mandate for gambling services to do so according to government rules.
Anti-money laundering act.
It also keeps you safe as this will mean they are recognizing they are a legitimate business because they do follow the rules.
Check their TOS for more info but if I am in your case I'd just pick the reputable gambling sites in this forum.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Taskford on January 14, 2023, 12:58:23 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

That's wrong approach mate and that is not advisable to do since problem might occur if the casino will seek for further more verification so to avoid more issue much better if you send the right details to them.

The only solution with that is to find reputable casino to play so that you can assure that your identity is safe and away from any data leaking which is main concern of other gamblers here.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Shinpako09 on January 14, 2023, 01:01:45 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
It's either you find a legitimate casino that doesn't require KYC or make a new account and give your real information. What if you win a big amount and to avoid suspicion, the casino needs to dig deeper into your information. You'll be in big trouble and you might not get your withdrawal if that happens. Casino asking for KYC is normal nowadays and pretty secure, so no worries. Casinos invest in security more than some governments organization.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: QueenVera on January 14, 2023, 01:13:58 PM
I'm very certain you know that what you're doing isn't right and you shouldn't be doing this because we've heard and seen different issues of people complaining about been kicked out of a casino after winning big and later come on board here to cry out without giving any discription and proves to what they feel is bad.
I also see no reason why people shy away from KYC when you have no intentions of doing or commiting any crime on the casino.
I've also seen people who try to buy pass all this protocols by using VPN and changing of proxy and I'm sure most of this users are aware of the dangers associated with those practices.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: CryptoYar on January 14, 2023, 01:21:09 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?
If you play on a casino platform that requires verification, then you have no way of escape. Even if you provide the wrong details but when you'll submit your ID card/passport/driving license they will know that you submitted the wrong info they will reject your verification and ask you to re-submit it with accurate details. Even if you try to verify with someone else's details then there is still a possibility the casino will ask you for these details again which can put you in a difficult situation.

Or any of you have a better solution?
The solution is simple. Use the casinos where KYC is not required. Like freebitco.in


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: m2017 on January 14, 2023, 01:35:16 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
I'm afraid you have no choice and there are only 2 options here: either you provide your valid personal data, or simply don't play at the online casino if you are worried about KYC. As you have already been warned, if the casino finds out that you have used fake personal data, then probably your account will be banned and your money as well. It is very risky, especially if you have impressive deposits. It seems to me that it is better not to play online casinos at all if you value your personal data.

Otherwise, KYC can't be avoided.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: noormcs5 on January 14, 2023, 01:46:30 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?
If you play on a casino platform that requires verification, then you have no way of escape. Even if you provide the wrong details but when you'll submit your ID card/passport/driving license they will know that you submitted the wrong info they will reject your verification and ask you to re-submit it with accurate details. Even if you try to verify with someone else's details then there is still a possibility the casino will ask you for these details again which can put you in a difficult situation.

Or any of you have a better solution?
The solution is simple. Use the casinos where KYC is not required. Like freebitco.in

You cannot cheat a KYC system because they always ask for your copy if ID card or driving license. Unless you have fake documents, you cannot cheat any KYC based system.

Yes, freebitco is a platform where you do not have to do KYC but there are very limited betting and gambling options at freebitco. Most trusted gambling site usually require KYC and we have no option but to do KYC if we want to play gambling at good sites.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: xSkylarx on January 14, 2023, 01:52:12 PM
The worst-case scenario, for example, if your data is leaked, is that someone will impersonate you or use your identity to scam others, and the scammer will use tricks to gain access to your bank accounts without your knowledge; this type of scenario is extremely unlikely but could occur. However, as long as you sign up with legitimate and long-running casinos with positive feedback, your data will be safe; there are also casinos that do not require KYC, but I believe there are only a few of them.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Eternad on January 14, 2023, 02:25:13 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?
If you play on a casino platform that requires verification, then you have no way of escape. Even if you provide the wrong details but when you'll submit your ID card/passport/driving license they will know that you submitted the wrong info they will reject your verification and ask you to re-submit it with accurate details. Even if you try to verify with someone else's details then there is still a possibility the casino will ask you for these details again which can put you in a difficult situation.

Or any of you have a better solution?
The solution is simple. Use the casinos where KYC is not required. Like freebitco.in

You cannot cheat a KYC system because they always ask for your copy if ID card or driving license. Unless you have fake documents, you cannot cheat any KYC based system.

Yes, freebitco is a platform where you do not have to do KYC but there are very limited betting and gambling options at freebitco. Most trusted gambling site usually require KYC and we have no option but to do KYC if we want to play gambling at good sites.

Agree on this, Freebitco.in doesn’t have casino license to operate while the game they offered is just a high-lo games so technically they are not the same on the existing full casino. They have the full casino version in the form of dPlay casino which ask KYC to there customer like the typical requirements of most of the casino.

The counterpart casino of freebitco.in is primedice which doesn’t ask KYC too and other casino that only offers probably fair game without any 3rd party game provider available on their game browser.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: panjul07 on January 14, 2023, 02:33:37 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

You did it wrong to give fake/wrong personal details, if you cant accept KYC, better to avoid any project that may ask you to verify your identity.
If personal details is being asked during registration, simply skip it and find other platform/project.
There are many platform that does not ask you to provide your personal details until the platform ask you due to a specific reason.
Once you gave fake/wrong details, high likely there will be no way to update it although I think there are some platform that give you the chance to do it.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Genemind on January 14, 2023, 02:37:11 PM
Most casinos require KYC for regulation purposes, and also for them to avoid any legal obligations just in case you are playing in a country where gambling is restricted. There's no way to avoid KYC if the casino you chose requires it, there are some casinos where KYC is not mandatory but casino owners might require it due to some circumstances. Also falsifying your personal information might cause you a problem in case they ask for further verification. It's either you avoid casinos with KYC or just simply comply with them.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: robelneo on January 14, 2023, 02:51:18 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

You have two options the first one is not to gamble at all which I'm sure is not acceptable for gamblers who gamble for money and entertainment and the other one is to accept the reality that KYC is necessary because of the regulation that is being imposed by the regulators, but all the things that you are afraid of will not happen if you picked the right casino which is responsible and compliant on the process and guaranty the safety of their client's identity.
You just need to accept that casinos also have to protect their integrity from bad actors exploiting their casino.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Awaklara on January 14, 2023, 03:01:52 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
I'm sure you're not the only one who thinks like that. some casinos that ask for KYC, usually related to the withdrawal amount or there is abnormal activity.
but if you use someone else's ID for KYC, it's the wrong way. if you haven't had a problem right now, maybe in the long term you will feel it.

but how do you get other people's KYC documents? did you buy it from someone? if you do that, you are doing something wrong.
if you also use a fake ID for your exchange, your funds can be frozen. Just like a casino would do, your account can also be suspended.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Slow death on January 14, 2023, 03:05:36 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

all casinos have TOS ( Terms of Service ) and in all casinos the TOS is very clear that all people when creating an account at the casino must provide true information, you know that, you also know that if the casino sends you to KYC and they discover that that you delivered false documents, so they will close your account and confiscate all your funds, but there is another thing, if the casino wants they can report to the police that you provided false data, that is, you will have committed the crime of false documents

Section 1 Forgery Act 1981 states: A person is guilty of forgery if he makes a false instrument, with the intention that he or another shall use it to induce somebody to accept it as genuine, and by reason of so accepting it to do or not to do some act to his own or any other person's prejudice.”


source: https://www.google.com/search?q=crime+of+false+documents&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

don't do that because you can still have the bad luck of being arrested

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

don't lie in casinos, you don't like KYC, that's fine, so look for a casino that doesn't ask for KYC and that is a reliable casino, but I'll warn you right away that currently all casinos that have a license will ask for KYC, so get used to it KYC or else give up using the casinos


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Shamm on January 14, 2023, 03:30:32 PM
Actually, if you are just a small gambler, you usually only fill in your personal data, you don't need to send your identity, but if you are a big gambler, just in case you should avoid casino sites that implement KYC because you are worried that when you withdraw large you will be asked to fill in your personal KYC data, but if want to be safe you can play decentralized casino

Honestly,  mate you are right as I am a small number then I'll dot not just all my identity give to them as I know that only few information are required if you want to withdraw your money. While if you are a big gambler I Think that you are needing to fill out those KYC because you will know that it's a big help if you want to withdraw your profit in gambling and also the best thing do is that we need to find a good casino to trust them to give our information .


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: coin-investor on January 14, 2023, 03:46:33 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

Nothing is wrong here, in fact, they just made right what used to be wrong, in the past scammers and money launderers and cheaters are using casinos, now with the implementation of KYC and strict compliance from the regulators these scammers, money launderers cannot use the casino anymore, because they will be caught, KYC is to stop people from abuse and exploiting casinos, you have to accept this, the industry is better with the implementation of KYC.
Go for the right casino and you can sleep better because the right casino will not sell your information.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: molsewid on January 14, 2023, 04:05:14 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
Hmmm, let me ask first. Did you just create a fake name? or you use other person information. Also, most of the gambling site now requires KYC because of some fraudulent acts, some website only requires it if you going to withdraw above the limit some others are not. But taking it will only give you a problem in the future, maybe just find another platforms that will not required you kyc but I don't think there still a casino who will not require their people with that. We are all afraid that our identity might be stolen, maybe hide the serial number and some prints in your ID.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on January 14, 2023, 04:05:28 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

    -  You know what you're saying is simple, if you don't like the KYC rules of a gambling platform in the crypto space, don't play on their gambling website, now if you want to play on their website and you don't like the KYC policy it has, I'm sure eventually when you win a big amount on their gambling platform you'll have a problem withdrawing your big winnings because of KYC.

If the person you apply for is another KYC person instead of you, that will also be a problem for you because there are other casinos that will interview the person who is in KYC regarding the questions that will be passed to them.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: klidex on January 14, 2023, 04:08:40 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
If you don't like or don't want to show the details of your personal identity, maybe the way you have said by falsifying data can be done, but if in the future there is something you don't want, then you yourself will experience difficulties.
I personally always provide real details of my identity for a KYC. I don't want something unwanted to happen to my name in the future, but I can't prove it because of a fake identity.
However, only casinos that are trusted and that can really be relied on in terms of security that I make a KYC because in my opinion KYC is important to be able to maintain and guarantee the security of both parties.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: GigaBit on January 14, 2023, 04:41:46 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

    -  You know what you're saying is simple, if you don't like the KYC rules of a gambling platform in the crypto space, don't play on their gambling website, now if you want to play on their website and you don't like the KYC policy it has, I'm sure eventually when you win a big amount on their gambling platform you'll have a problem withdrawing your big winnings because of KYC.

If the person you apply for is another KYC person instead of you, that will also be a problem for you because there are other casinos that will interview the person who is in KYC regarding the questions that will be passed to them.
Of course when something is done outside the rules he can be found guilty. Generally, gambling platforms always want to retain their customers. The more customers they have, the more their profits will increase. There are many casinos that declare KYC but in some gambling platform one can gambling without any KYC. As a result, many people think it simple and avoid the KYC system. But if there is a big jackpot or something else that can win then the casino can restrict it or cancel the account without making that payment. In this case that will be gamblers fault. If it KYC based casinos then one should not gamble without KYC.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: rahmad2nd on January 14, 2023, 05:11:24 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

I only use a few crypto casinos, my knowledge regarding this matter is very limited. but it seems. we have little choice but to do KYC as a requirement of licensed casinos. why is that, because casinos that have licenses, especially those that are centralized, have a legal umbrella that requires each user to carry out KYC as part of the regulatory regulations.

I'm pretty sure, gradually the implementation of KYC will be widely accepted by many users and become commonplace. after all, we can't blame the casino that includes its users to do the KYC option. after all, every casino has different rules when it comes to KYC. except, if you still insist on playing at a casino that doesn't require you to do KYC, but with that. You have to be prepared with the risks, it could be a fraud casino or maybe the casino doesn't pay your winnings. cases like this, usually occur in casinos that do not have a license, let alone without imposing KYC.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: nakamura12 on January 14, 2023, 05:32:57 PM
I only use a few crypto casinos, my knowledge regarding this matter is very limited. but it seems. we have little choice but to do KYC as a requirement of licensed casinos. why is that, because casinos that have licenses, especially those that are centralized, have a legal umbrella that requires each user to carry out KYC as part of the regulatory regulations.

I'm pretty sure, gradually the implementation of KYC will be widely accepted by many users and become commonplace. after all, we can't blame the casino that includes its users to do the KYC option. after all, every casino has different rules when it comes to KYC. except, if you still insist on playing at a casino that doesn't require you to do KYC, but with that. You have to be prepared with the risks, it could be a fraud casino or maybe the casino doesn't pay your winnings. cases like this, usually occur in casinos that do not have a license, let alone without imposing KYC.
If those casinos that have license and the casino won't do KYC then they will face problems or consequences for not making their customers do KYC and they will also held responsible for money laundering. That's why it is norm to require KYC on casinos nowadays. It is indeed in their regulations to ask KYC and the casinos are aldo the same as the user having to to put KYC in their regulations though the difference is that they won't have a problem with it compared to users who must have complete the KYC when they want ti be anonymous and also can't withdraw huge amount unless KYC is completed.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Zlantann on January 14, 2023, 05:44:56 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide the wrong personal details to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their way around this. Share ideas if you can.

You might not know the importance of giving out the correct information until you have some difficulties or your account has issues. These casino companies can use your fake information as an excuse to withhold your funds. You can even be called a scammer or a fraudster because of false information. If you don't want to give out your information and you want to be anonymous it is better to only use casinos that don't require KYC procedures. Just search for them and read their terms of service to be sure of their KYC policies. Although these casinos are rear but it would be a better option than lying.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Issa56 on January 14, 2023, 06:34:06 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?
If anything happens to the website system then you might risk losing your money, if the website gets everything right again and they request everyone to confirm their identity, you that used fake details how will you complete your kyc?  I don't think their will be any way to do that, when you are dealing with money, make sure you provide the right informations which they request from you, if you provide fake information, they can decide to freeze your account at any moment and your money will be gone.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: pixie85 on January 14, 2023, 07:13:38 PM
I avoid KYC as much as I can and I know certain crypto exchanges and casinos that use KYC to steal your money. They give you a choice that you either do KYC or they won't allow you to withdraw, which is theft if you ask me, especially if you could create an account and deposit money without KYC, but you need it to withdraw.

Don't cheat them by giving a fake name because this can result in them banning you. Bu doing it you're supplying them with arguments they can use against you.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: virasisog on January 14, 2023, 07:32:22 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

I'd rather find other casinos that won't ask for KYC rather than provide fake and wrong information. Through the years where I have been complying with the KYC, I haven't encountered any problem or information leakage as others are fearing. As long as you are with trusted platforms and casinos, you have nothing to be afraid of. Submitting wrong information in KYC might cause you trouble if ever the casino would face any problems so you better be mindful.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: SirLancelot on January 14, 2023, 08:18:23 PM
If those casinos that have license and the casino won't do KYC then they will face problems or consequences for not making their customers do KYC and they will also held responsible for money laundering. That's why it is norm to require KYC on casinos nowadays. It is indeed in their regulations to ask KYC and the casinos are aldo the same as the user having to to put KYC in their regulations though the difference is that they won't have a problem with it compared to users who must have complete the KYC when they want ti be anonymous and also can't withdraw huge amount unless KYC is completed.
It's understandable that some people might not want to provide personal information online, but it's important to be aware of the risks of giving false information when signing up for an online casino. Not only can it put you at risk of legal repercussions, but it can also result in your funds being withheld or your account being flagged as a fraud. One solution to this problem is to use a VPN when accessing online casinos that require KYC.

This can help to mask your IP address and keep your personal information private. But it's important to keep in mind that some online casinos can detect the use of VPNs, and you may not be able to access the site. Another solution is to use decentralized platforms that don't require KYC or personal information as they are often built on blockchain technology which gives more anonymity to the user.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: jrrsparkles on January 14, 2023, 08:34:22 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
If you can't able to verify your identity then its impossible to withdraw the deposited funds from a casino so its your choice whether you want to compromise your identity or the money. Giving wrong information to any website is wrong when you have the intention of using it further so don't make such a mistake.

If you want anonymity the choose the casino which offers it but don't try to cheat the system which will obviously backfire at yourself.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: 348Judah on January 14, 2023, 08:46:33 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

As long as the site remain fine and active, tou may not have issue with them but they begin to experience challenges then acceot it that it will definitely comes to you as well in partaking out if it because there will be restrictions and then they may come up with verification of account and the likes and when you can't do that because of the wrong informations provided, if you're lucky not to have your fund with them you're fine but when you do, am sorry there's nothing to do in reversing this than loosing your account together with the money on it sincee you can't get verified because of wrong details, but you can maintain a safety zone by choosing a no KYC casino when gambling.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: tjtonmoy on January 14, 2023, 08:47:17 PM
I still use my fake ID to fill the KYC. Random generated ID number. Works just fine for me. I managed to create a template of my local ID card, and I can use fake info if I wish to. It has no use in real world but works in the online world. I just put my picture and name, while all the other info are fake. That way I can do a face verification too. Don't know if they can track me that way, but this is the way I have been hiding in the shadow so far. But if there's any platform that will verify my info to my local one, they will not find any match, which could lead to the KYC not being verified. But most of them doesn't do that. So all is ok for now.
Haven't tried this on any gambling platforms. So if anyone wishes to check if it does, then do it at your own risk.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: DoublerHunter on January 14, 2023, 09:00:36 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
^That is not a good idea that you used the wrong personal documents for anonymity, it seems you are risking your money every time you will make a deposit. We have plenty of gambling casinos here that you can choose and probably all of them require to have a KYC but not all want to have to reveal your real identity, they will ask for your username, email address, or mobile number but not directly ask your real identity which is asking valid IDs.
We need sometimes to understand that the KYC procedure now is a part of being legitimacy of the gambling casino, which is what they must need to required.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: dothebeats on January 14, 2023, 09:25:40 PM
Well if the information you're using isn't tied to any real person then I guess you're good, otherwise you're just throwing someone under the bus whom have no idea what you're getting them into. I agree that giving out KYC details to crypto casinos might be wary for for you, and that you're just trying to play it safe, but at least be considerate enough of the person whose identity you're using to pass the KYC. There isn't any workaround to bypassing KYC just yet, and if there is then the system is flawed, and casinos wouldn't really require them at all.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: TimeTeller on January 14, 2023, 09:33:55 PM
Obviously if something goes wrong you will lose access to the account and probably casino support will block the account. Better to find alternative platforms or just fill the required form with correct information. What if you win big amount and they ask for kyc? You have to think twice before doing so.

That is the dilemma of players who don't want to submit KYC.
If you win a handsome amount, and the casino wanted to verify your identity, what will you do?
Are you going to let go of your winnings or submit your KYC docs?
This is up to the player's prerogative. The casino won't force you to submit your docs but you will forfeit your winnings.
So if you think you will play big, better enter actual details upon registration. It is your money so the casino will just collect it if you can't abide their terms.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: o48o on January 14, 2023, 09:42:33 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
Are you asking how bad it can get if you get your identity stolen by a hacker from the site you provided it to? Because that is the worst i can think of happening. You start to get bills you had nothing to do with and you will be pretty much screwed, your name can be used for money laundering and other criminal activities.

When companies are asking for KYC and need video calls, fresh paperwork, different sort of pictures, source of income etc. It's not only for AML laws. They are also doing that because of crypto and hacked CEXes, black market is flooded by stolen IDs. To make it harder for criminals to use them. They will need second layer of authentication. Which is annoying but mostly it's for your benefit.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: BitcoinPanther on January 14, 2023, 10:08:42 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

You action of giving a fake KYC will make an end to your account.  Casino will not allowed any falsification of document from its player.  It is either a fraud or forgery and by its nature is a crime, the casino can actually file a criminal case against you, so aside from your account being ban, there is also a possibility that you will be imprisoned at most or fined at least if the casino goes after your fraud action.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Odusko on January 14, 2023, 10:15:23 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
Instead of risking my personal i formation in the hand of a third-party casino via KYC i would rather look for an alternative, we have several ways you can gamble without giving your detail or undergo KYC such as trying to stay within the limit of both withdrawal and deposit that does nkt require kyc to be processed or a total avoidance of KYC compliance casinos.
Either way, our privacy is our personal responsibility so not every site is trustworthy to entrust our document with.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Vaskiy on January 14, 2023, 10:18:04 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

You action of giving a fake KYC will make an end to your account.  Casino will not allowed any falsification of document from its player.  It is either a fraud or forgery and by its nature is a crime, the casino can actually file a criminal case against you, so aside from your account being ban, there is also a possibility that you will be imprisoned at most or fined at least if the casino goes after your fraud action.
I'm not sure how far it works, based on my understanding someday this is going to be a trouble. When you provide false information and if you were requested to prove your identity on solving an issue or something similar to that, it'll be a problem for you and OP won't get solution. To avoid such problems it is good to give our own KYC. Even if some problem arises, we'll be able to claim.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Viscore on January 14, 2023, 10:59:46 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

It's obvious, if you give your personal info and it by chance it was leaked to the public or to the bad actors then they can used it. There are cases in some altcoin projects that the personal info of some bounty hunters and their customers and investors have been breached and it went down to the black market and the hackers sold it there.

I guess it's the responsibility of the casino itself to really protect our data. Not sure if casinos are required to be like GDPR compliant.

https://gdpr.eu/
Giving out your personal information online is really risky because once the account is hacked, it is certain that your personal details are already in danger as hackers may use it for illegal purposes. Although I know it’s a wrongful act, but for security purposes, some gamblers have kept their personal information and instead use other names in order to pass the KYC requirement. However, if anything happens to the website, you will also find some troubles retrieving your funds if you provide wrong information to them.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: n0ne on January 14, 2023, 11:36:48 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

It's obvious, if you give your personal info and it by chance it was leaked to the public or to the bad actors then they can used it. There are cases in some altcoin projects that the personal info of some bounty hunters and their customers and investors have been breached and it went down to the black market and the hackers sold it there.

I guess it's the responsibility of the casino itself to really protect our data. Not sure if casinos are required to be like GDPR compliant.

https://gdpr.eu/
Giving out your personal information online is really risky because once the account is hacked, it is certain that your personal details are already in danger as hackers may use it for illegal purposes. Although I know it’s a wrongful act, but for security purposes, some gamblers have kept their personal information and instead use other names in order to pass the KYC requirement. However, if anything happens to the website, you will also find some troubles retrieving your funds if you provide wrong information to them.
These days we were able to use almost every services offered by a casino just through the usage of an email during the signup. Based on the withdrawal we were requested to fulfill different levels of Kyc.So, this isn't a problem anymore when we're into limits on withdrawal. As mentioned giving personal information is risky, at times we don't have any other choice than going for it. These days we've got high security features availed with every platform, however we need to have our own plans to be on the safer side as we can't blame anyone for what is happening through internet.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on January 15, 2023, 04:46:26 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

As has been explained to you, it can go wrong, very wrong. Not only because in the event that you win money and get caught, the casino will probably terminate your account and you will be left with no winnings, but more importantly, because you will be committing a crime that depending on the jurisdiction and penalties, could land you in jail.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: libert19 on January 15, 2023, 05:09:46 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?


Your funds would get stuck. Solutions?

1) Don't bet

2) Bet within limits so you don't trigger kyc in first place, what limit? Depends on platform.

3) Have all fake identity docs. So if you get asked, you can give them. However, These days platforms ask for selfie photo with docs, so it would be hard to fake this.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Bitinity on January 15, 2023, 05:11:52 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

This is not wise to give wrong personal details as it might give you bigger problem in the future once the casino ask you to complete real KYC verification. Imagine how if something big happen to you after you gave them wrong information? Lets say you are so lucky to win huge amount with small bet and they ask you to complete KYC in order to process your withdrawal. In this case, you have to provide ID card or any other personal documents and it is impossible that you can give the right documents which are the same as what you gave to them. I would never do it if you ask me.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on January 15, 2023, 05:15:29 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
If you have the fake documents at your disposal so as to reuse anytime that they call for it, i dont think you should have any issues, at least, if something goes wrong with the website or the system that will require gamblers to resubmit their KYC documents, you are of resubmitting.

Where i think problems would arise is when you use a fake document that you no longer have access to from the day of verification, when something happens that require you to resubmit your documents, and you submit a different document, be sure to face some real problems, most especially if you have your money/account blocked.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: noormcs5 on January 15, 2023, 05:21:52 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

How can you give wrong data about yourself when doing KYC at any casino ? They will ask you to upload your ID card which contains every true detail about yourself including your real name and address. The casino will reject your KYC as the data you provided and the data available on your identity card is different.

Try to fool the casino is not possible and even if you succeeded in doing so, your funds are always at risk, if anytime they find out that your documents were fake, they can block your account.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: lienfaye on January 15, 2023, 05:37:51 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
If you're not comfortable playing in a specific casino because of their kyc requirement, you better not create an account with them instead of giving a wrong details. Because you'll be in trouble if they ask you to provide a supporting documents (ids, selfie etc.) to confirm your identity. This will likely to happen in a regulated casino if you win a significant amount and requesting to withdraw.

It's understandable to have worries if we provide our informations because of the possible data breach. However, there are casinos where you can play without giving your personal details if you're just an average gambler. That's why we have an option and we're not coerce to play in a specific casino if we don't want to.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Reid on January 15, 2023, 06:18:32 AM
There are gambling sites that only needs e-mail for sign up and you can play for the minimum. You are limited though in both deposit and withdrawal monthly or annual basis so it will not be that much fun if ever you are a gambler who goes beyond the minimum.
It's not wrong, privacy is a good thing but if you are using services like gambling platform, exchange, banks, and other industry that has something to do about spending or receiving money, your name and address will be required.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Crypt0Gore on January 15, 2023, 07:18:49 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
You just have two options, either to comply or to find another casino that doesn't enforce KYC until they have to. Most casinos today will have you required to comply with it.
But as long as you're not the big type of gambler and you've got a consistent yet low cash flow on your account then they're most unlikely to require you with KYC. As much as they don't want to get onto kyc for their customers, they also have no option but to do it to follow the regulatory rules that's been placed on them.
The gambling platforms that I am interested in have KYC requirement, do you have any in mind that do not require for KYC? A friend won some money on a gambling platform and he was forced to pass KYC verification before they allow him to withdraw half of the money and the rest was never paid.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: maydna on January 15, 2023, 07:30:16 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
If you're not comfortable playing in a specific casino because of their kyc requirement, you better not create an account with them instead of giving a wrong details. Because you'll be in trouble if they ask you to provide a supporting documents (ids, selfie etc.) to confirm your identity. This will likely to happen in a regulated casino if you win a significant amount and requesting to withdraw.

It's understandable to have worries if we provide our informations because of the possible data breach. However, there are casinos where you can play without giving your personal details if you're just an average gambler. That's why we have an option and we're not coerce to play in a specific casino if we don't want to.
As gamblers, we are free to choose a casino to play gambling, and if the casino we find asks for KYC, we don't need to choose the casino and look for another casino that doesn't ask us to do KYC. And casinos that don't ask their users to do KYC will still be around or they'll set rules for when gamblers have to do KYC.

So we don't need to worry about the casino because we can find other casinos. Moreover, we are in this forum which gives many casinos we can use to play gambling.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: davis196 on January 15, 2023, 07:52:55 AM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

How bad can this get? Well, it isn't bad for your personal info, but you might lose your money in that particular online casino.
I also have submitting real personal info, because I think that most gambling websites aren't very good at protecting sensitive information.
Losing a small amount of money seems a little bit better than having your personal info being leaked and shared for free around the darkweb.
But yes, sharing real fake personal info is a wrong approach and you might not be able to withdraw your profits, when the casino asks for ID verification.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: BobK71 on January 15, 2023, 10:13:47 AM
A gambler wants to conduct gambling activities independently. In this regard, KYC in gambling can be complicated for the gamblers which acts as a barrier to their freedom. So gamblers are try  to choose a platforms where there is no such complications. It is one's personal matter I think. There are still many sites that are very strict with rules and regulations. So not all casinos are the same. Nowadays with the increase of gambling sites there are many platforms apart from KYC where a lot of gambling activities are conducted without KYC.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Pierre 2 on January 15, 2023, 10:19:44 AM
I wouldn't intentionally enter false data to gambling platform which is well regulated. I understand people's concerns about leaking private data which can be very problematic. (I remember not gambling site but delivery service leaking data here - many famous people s address information were used for bad intentions). But you are playing with your money in that gambling site so you shouldn't have issues withdrawing.
There are gambling sites that only needs e-mail for sign up and you can play for the minimum. You are limited though in both deposit and withdrawal monthly or annual basis so it will not be that much fun if ever you are a gambler who goes beyond the minimum.
It's not wrong, privacy is a good thing but if you are using services like gambling platform, exchange, banks, and other industry that has something to do about spending or receiving money, your name and address will be required.
I think those sites may be beneficial yeah so I agree.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: passwordnow on January 15, 2023, 12:09:28 PM
You just have two options, either to comply or to find another casino that doesn't enforce KYC until they have to. Most casinos today will have you required to comply with it.
But as long as you're not the big type of gambler and you've got a consistent yet low cash flow on your account then they're most unlikely to require you with KYC. As much as they don't want to get onto kyc for their customers, they also have no option but to do it to follow the regulatory rules that's been placed on them.
The gambling platforms that I am interested in have KYC requirement, do you have any in mind that do not require for KYC? A friend won some money on a gambling platform and he was forced to pass KYC verification before they allow him to withdraw half of the money and the rest was never paid.
Duelbits has asked some players for KYC and some also that did not. It's based on what they look into your account and activity and that decision could also be the same as other casinos based on what they look into your account.
If your friend has already complied with the KYC and was paid half, what does that casino ask for so that he can receive the remaining half of his winning money? Can you name what's that casino that has still half of the money of your friend from his win?


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: molsewid on January 15, 2023, 12:56:42 PM
A gambler wants to conduct gambling activities independently. In this regard, KYC in gambling can be complicated for the gamblers which acts as a barrier to their freedom. So gamblers are try  to choose a platforms where there is no such complications. It is one's personal matter I think. There are still many sites that are very strict with rules and regulations. So not all casinos are the same. Nowadays with the increase of gambling sites there are many platforms apart from KYC where a lot of gambling activities are conducted without KYC.

Yes indeed, there are some who doesn't implemented it since they knew that once they do that some gamblers will stay away from them and look for other casinos that doesn't require it too much or some casinos that has only limitations that once they reach that they will need to pass for KYC. And as far as I remembered OP said that maybe he can use fake info, which is too bad idea I think? it will be a problem.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: YOSHIE on January 15, 2023, 01:30:15 PM
Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
Maybe for me it doesn't matter the KYC system implemented by online casino sites in general, if the users themselves don't violate the policies implemented as listed below.

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Many countries that prohibit online gambling rely on gambling sites and casinos to screen their citizens using IP addresses and prevent them from playing. Here's why using a VPN for online gambling is so common: VPN changes your IP address, so you can spoof your location.

However there is no guarantee that the VPN will work. In some countries like UK, the best and well-known betting sites use KYC (Know Your Customer) identity checks to verify your signup information. If you don't have any digital footprint in the country whose IP address you spoofed, you may not even be able to create an account.

Additionally, even if you manage to create an account on a site that has been banned on your country's IP address, you may still face other challenges when it comes time to withdraw money. Many sites will ask for proof of identity and address before paying their users' winning bets.

In essence, it is quite difficult to effectively surpass these limitations of online gambling. However, this has not stopped people from trying. Some users have found that using a VPN helps them in gaining access to certain sites for gambling.

The quote above has answered all your complaints about the KYC system, nothing is wrong, I think it's good if you visit a certain online casino it doesn't pass KYC, maybe if it passes, other obstacles like the one in the quote above, might be even more difficult when you make a withdrawal and win big.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: famososMuertos on January 15, 2023, 02:13:19 PM
In its beginnings, crypto casinos had anonymity as part of their marketing and it is an idea that is still in the air.

Then or consequently many unsuspecting users fall into the ToS that today you must read, there is your answer.

That is, it's about legal conditions of use established by mutual agreement between the parties, users and Casino.  So when you register you accept them.

Do your research, there are Crypto casinos that can still afford to shape KYC to suit different types of users in their gaming habits Gambling, so don't risk bypassing a KYC or trying to play in an unreliable casino or club.

You can start losing money in a fair casino without placing a bet, when you do not in the correct casino.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Cling18 on January 15, 2023, 02:18:40 PM
You are already risking your funds in gambling so it will be riskier if you will submit fake information. If ever you'll encounter a problem with the casino in the future, there's a huge possibility that you could lose all your funds in one click because of breaking their TOS. We all want anonymity but since we also want security, it will be better to comply with their security requirements than to regret things in the end.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on January 15, 2023, 03:06:14 PM
OP, in some cases I equally give out the wrong details about myself when dealing with some online platform. But I don't do such when dealing with a platform where I am putting my money, and that is because I tend to avoid anything that will cause me to not be able to withdraw my money or have to undergo the KYC procedures that I earlier avoided. 

It's also wise to know the terms and policies of the casino you use because if you give out the wrong details and perhaps encounter an issue that requires those details to be verified, it may cause a delay in whatever you want to do at that moment. 

You can falsify your details if you are registering on those platforms that are not too serious, but not on casinos or platforms where you are putting your money, kindly know that the risk atarched can put your money at stake.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Fortify on January 15, 2023, 03:19:33 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

You need to judge each site individually rather than going with a blanket rule. There are lots of big sites out there which will be geared up to accept and maybe even use very secure third party services for this sort of verification & document storage. If you stick with all the biggest casinos and sportbooks advertising here then you are fairly safe, as long as you understand that KYC may later expose you if your government is able to pressure the gambling site for whatever reason to release such information. I would definitely not hand over documents to smaller sites or any that give even a little bit of a bad vibe off because it can come back against you in so many bad ways.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Yogee on January 15, 2023, 03:20:25 PM
...how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?
Locked or seized funds for failed KYC in case you're suspected of any wrong doing or you win big.

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Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC?
Yes. The reason is as stated above.

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Or any of you have a better solution?
Let me reiterate what other have said that not playing in any KYC casino is the best solution.

I only submit fake information using throwaway accounts when I'm testing or checking out the features of a platform. I create a second one with real info because that I'm actually going to use it.

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There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this.
Keep in mind that the people behind those casinos with KYC could be watching or reading this thread hehe.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: aioc on January 15, 2023, 03:28:18 PM
I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?
That's risky providing the wrong information you know that you can get yourself banned and they can confiscate your winning, we all want anonymity but until there's no solution in an industry that is highly regulated, we have no choice but to abide by their rules or so not play at all.
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Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their way around this. Share ideas if you can.
Right now there's no solution we all wish there is so we can safeguard our anonymity, the other option is on chain but you can only deposit with a native token of that platform, but we never know in the future something innovative will come out that can be beneficial to both the gamblers and the gambling operator.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: madnessteat on January 15, 2023, 04:22:27 PM
You are already risking your funds in gambling so it will be riskier if you will submit fake information. If ever you'll encounter a problem with the casino in the future, there's a huge possibility that you could lose all your funds in one click because of breaking their TOS. We all want anonymity but since we also want security, it will be better to comply with their security requirements than to regret things in the end.

People who prefer to remain in the shadows have to risk money for the sake of their privacy. I understand them because they were simply not given an alternative option.

I'm sure there are options for creating an alternative casino data transfer tool without revealing the identity of the user, but no one wants to spend money on that. And as long as it's true there will be a lot of users who register not their personal data.


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: Slow death on January 15, 2023, 05:13:04 PM
You can falsify your details if you are registering on those platforms that are not too serious, but not on casinos or platforms where you are putting your money, kindly know that the risk atarched can put your money at stake.

even though these small casinos and to a certain extent are casinos with high indications of being scam casinos, but that does not give people the right to deliver false documents, because the scammers can still report to the police all people who deliver false documents and if that person who delivered false documents you are very unlucky you can still see the police arrest you, it may be the case that the police take the complaint very seriously and investigate the person who gave false documents and arrest that person. I hope no one goes down this criminal path of giving false documents


Title: Re: How wrongful can this go?
Post by: wiss19 on January 15, 2023, 08:14:02 PM
It is wrong because you are not being honest. It can also screw you at the end in case the casino unexpectedly requires you to complete a KYC but you can prefer to not comply with it and choose to abandon the money in your account.

I think no money can be able to level with our personal information or privacy. Once someone get your data, it will now be impossible to removed it from them but money can always be found again, so my advice is just gamble on those casinos that don't require a KYC or better gamble on the web3/decentralized casinos as they don't require any signup. All you need to do with them is to connect your crypto wallet and you are good to go.