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January 14, 2023, 10:15:23 PM
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I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
Instead of risking my personal i formation in the hand of a third-party casino via KYC i would rather look for an alternative, we have several ways you can gamble without giving your detail or undergo KYC such as trying to stay within the limit of both withdrawal and deposit that does nkt require kyc to be processed or a total avoidance of KYC compliance casinos.
Either way, our privacy is our personal responsibility so not every site is trustworthy to entrust our document with.

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January 14, 2023, 10:18:04 PM
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I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

You action of giving a fake KYC will make an end to your account.  Casino will not allowed any falsification of document from its player.  It is either a fraud or forgery and by its nature is a crime, the casino can actually file a criminal case against you, so aside from your account being ban, there is also a possibility that you will be imprisoned at most or fined at least if the casino goes after your fraud action.
I'm not sure how far it works, based on my understanding someday this is going to be a trouble. When you provide false information and if you were requested to prove your identity on solving an issue or something similar to that, it'll be a problem for you and OP won't get solution. To avoid such problems it is good to give our own KYC. Even if some problem arises, we'll be able to claim.

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I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

It's obvious, if you give your personal info and it by chance it was leaked to the public or to the bad actors then they can used it. There are cases in some altcoin projects that the personal info of some bounty hunters and their customers and investors have been breached and it went down to the black market and the hackers sold it there.

I guess it's the responsibility of the casino itself to really protect our data. Not sure if casinos are required to be like GDPR compliant.

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Giving out your personal information online is really risky because once the account is hacked, it is certain that your personal details are already in danger as hackers may use it for illegal purposes. Although I know it’s a wrongful act, but for security purposes, some gamblers have kept their personal information and instead use other names in order to pass the KYC requirement. However, if anything happens to the website, you will also find some troubles retrieving your funds if you provide wrong information to them.

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January 14, 2023, 11:36:48 PM
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I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

It's obvious, if you give your personal info and it by chance it was leaked to the public or to the bad actors then they can used it. There are cases in some altcoin projects that the personal info of some bounty hunters and their customers and investors have been breached and it went down to the black market and the hackers sold it there.

I guess it's the responsibility of the casino itself to really protect our data. Not sure if casinos are required to be like GDPR compliant.

https://gdpr.eu/
Giving out your personal information online is really risky because once the account is hacked, it is certain that your personal details are already in danger as hackers may use it for illegal purposes. Although I know it’s a wrongful act, but for security purposes, some gamblers have kept their personal information and instead use other names in order to pass the KYC requirement. However, if anything happens to the website, you will also find some troubles retrieving your funds if you provide wrong information to them.
These days we were able to use almost every services offered by a casino just through the usage of an email during the signup. Based on the withdrawal we were requested to fulfill different levels of Kyc.So, this isn't a problem anymore when we're into limits on withdrawal. As mentioned giving personal information is risky, at times we don't have any other choice than going for it. These days we've got high security features availed with every platform, however we need to have our own plans to be on the safer side as we can't blame anyone for what is happening through internet.

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January 15, 2023, 04:46:26 AM
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I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

As has been explained to you, it can go wrong, very wrong. Not only because in the event that you win money and get caught, the casino will probably terminate your account and you will be left with no winnings, but more importantly, because you will be committing a crime that depending on the jurisdiction and penalties, could land you in jail.

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January 15, 2023, 05:09:46 AM
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I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?


Your funds would get stuck. Solutions?

1) Don't bet

2) Bet within limits so you don't trigger kyc in first place, what limit? Depends on platform.

3) Have all fake identity docs. So if you get asked, you can give them. However, These days platforms ask for selfie photo with docs, so it would be hard to fake this.

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January 15, 2023, 05:11:52 AM
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I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

This is not wise to give wrong personal details as it might give you bigger problem in the future once the casino ask you to complete real KYC verification. Imagine how if something big happen to you after you gave them wrong information? Lets say you are so lucky to win huge amount with small bet and they ask you to complete KYC in order to process your withdrawal. In this case, you have to provide ID card or any other personal documents and it is impossible that you can give the right documents which are the same as what you gave to them. I would never do it if you ask me.

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January 15, 2023, 05:15:29 AM
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I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
If you have the fake documents at your disposal so as to reuse anytime that they call for it, i dont think you should have any issues, at least, if something goes wrong with the website or the system that will require gamblers to resubmit their KYC documents, you are of resubmitting.

Where i think problems would arise is when you use a fake document that you no longer have access to from the day of verification, when something happens that require you to resubmit your documents, and you submit a different document, be sure to face some real problems, most especially if you have your money/account blocked.

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January 15, 2023, 05:21:52 AM
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I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

How can you give wrong data about yourself when doing KYC at any casino ? They will ask you to upload your ID card which contains every true detail about yourself including your real name and address. The casino will reject your KYC as the data you provided and the data available on your identity card is different.

Try to fool the casino is not possible and even if you succeeded in doing so, your funds are always at risk, if anytime they find out that your documents were fake, they can block your account.

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January 15, 2023, 05:37:51 AM
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I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
If you're not comfortable playing in a specific casino because of their kyc requirement, you better not create an account with them instead of giving a wrong details. Because you'll be in trouble if they ask you to provide a supporting documents (ids, selfie etc.) to confirm your identity. This will likely to happen in a regulated casino if you win a significant amount and requesting to withdraw.

It's understandable to have worries if we provide our informations because of the possible data breach. However, there are casinos where you can play without giving your personal details if you're just an average gambler. That's why we have an option and we're not coerce to play in a specific casino if we don't want to.

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There are gambling sites that only needs e-mail for sign up and you can play for the minimum. You are limited though in both deposit and withdrawal monthly or annual basis so it will not be that much fun if ever you are a gambler who goes beyond the minimum.
It's not wrong, privacy is a good thing but if you are using services like gambling platform, exchange, banks, and other industry that has something to do about spending or receiving money, your name and address will be required.
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I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
You just have two options, either to comply or to find another casino that doesn't enforce KYC until they have to. Most casinos today will have you required to comply with it.
But as long as you're not the big type of gambler and you've got a consistent yet low cash flow on your account then they're most unlikely to require you with KYC. As much as they don't want to get onto kyc for their customers, they also have no option but to do it to follow the regulatory rules that's been placed on them.
The gambling platforms that I am interested in have KYC requirement, do you have any in mind that do not require for KYC? A friend won some money on a gambling platform and he was forced to pass KYC verification before they allow him to withdraw half of the money and the rest was never paid.

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January 15, 2023, 07:30:16 AM
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I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
If you're not comfortable playing in a specific casino because of their kyc requirement, you better not create an account with them instead of giving a wrong details. Because you'll be in trouble if they ask you to provide a supporting documents (ids, selfie etc.) to confirm your identity. This will likely to happen in a regulated casino if you win a significant amount and requesting to withdraw.

It's understandable to have worries if we provide our informations because of the possible data breach. However, there are casinos where you can play without giving your personal details if you're just an average gambler. That's why we have an option and we're not coerce to play in a specific casino if we don't want to.
As gamblers, we are free to choose a casino to play gambling, and if the casino we find asks for KYC, we don't need to choose the casino and look for another casino that doesn't ask us to do KYC. And casinos that don't ask their users to do KYC will still be around or they'll set rules for when gamblers have to do KYC.

So we don't need to worry about the casino because we can find other casinos. Moreover, we are in this forum which gives many casinos we can use to play gambling.
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January 15, 2023, 07:52:55 AM
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I don't like giving out my private information for any project or platforms online and I have no choice but to provide wrong personal details in order to maintain anonymity, how bad can this get if anything happens to the website system?

Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.

How bad can this get? Well, it isn't bad for your personal info, but you might lose your money in that particular online casino.
I also have submitting real personal info, because I think that most gambling websites aren't very good at protecting sensitive information.
Losing a small amount of money seems a little bit better than having your personal info being leaked and shared for free around the darkweb.
But yes, sharing real fake personal info is a wrong approach and you might not be able to withdraw your profits, when the casino asks for ID verification.

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January 15, 2023, 10:13:47 AM
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A gambler wants to conduct gambling activities independently. In this regard, KYC in gambling can be complicated for the gamblers which acts as a barrier to their freedom. So gamblers are try  to choose a platforms where there is no such complications. It is one's personal matter I think. There are still many sites that are very strict with rules and regulations. So not all casinos are the same. Nowadays with the increase of gambling sites there are many platforms apart from KYC where a lot of gambling activities are conducted without KYC.

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January 15, 2023, 10:19:44 AM
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I wouldn't intentionally enter false data to gambling platform which is well regulated. I understand people's concerns about leaking private data which can be very problematic. (I remember not gambling site but delivery service leaking data here - many famous people s address information were used for bad intentions). But you are playing with your money in that gambling site so you shouldn't have issues withdrawing.
There are gambling sites that only needs e-mail for sign up and you can play for the minimum. You are limited though in both deposit and withdrawal monthly or annual basis so it will not be that much fun if ever you are a gambler who goes beyond the minimum.
It's not wrong, privacy is a good thing but if you are using services like gambling platform, exchange, banks, and other industry that has something to do about spending or receiving money, your name and address will be required.
I think those sites may be beneficial yeah so I agree.
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January 15, 2023, 12:09:28 PM
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You just have two options, either to comply or to find another casino that doesn't enforce KYC until they have to. Most casinos today will have you required to comply with it.
But as long as you're not the big type of gambler and you've got a consistent yet low cash flow on your account then they're most unlikely to require you with KYC. As much as they don't want to get onto kyc for their customers, they also have no option but to do it to follow the regulatory rules that's been placed on them.
The gambling platforms that I am interested in have KYC requirement, do you have any in mind that do not require for KYC? A friend won some money on a gambling platform and he was forced to pass KYC verification before they allow him to withdraw half of the money and the rest was never paid.
Duelbits has asked some players for KYC and some also that did not. It's based on what they look into your account and activity and that decision could also be the same as other casinos based on what they look into your account.
If your friend has already complied with the KYC and was paid half, what does that casino ask for so that he can receive the remaining half of his winning money? Can you name what's that casino that has still half of the money of your friend from his win?

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January 15, 2023, 12:56:42 PM
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A gambler wants to conduct gambling activities independently. In this regard, KYC in gambling can be complicated for the gamblers which acts as a barrier to their freedom. So gamblers are try  to choose a platforms where there is no such complications. It is one's personal matter I think. There are still many sites that are very strict with rules and regulations. So not all casinos are the same. Nowadays with the increase of gambling sites there are many platforms apart from KYC where a lot of gambling activities are conducted without KYC.

Yes indeed, there are some who doesn't implemented it since they knew that once they do that some gamblers will stay away from them and look for other casinos that doesn't require it too much or some casinos that has only limitations that once they reach that they will need to pass for KYC. And as far as I remembered OP said that maybe he can use fake info, which is too bad idea I think? it will be a problem.
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January 15, 2023, 01:30:15 PM
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Is this a wrongful approach to online casinos that requires KYC? Or any of you have a better solution? There must be someone like me on here that have their ways around this. Share ideas if you can.
Maybe for me it doesn't matter the KYC system implemented by online casino sites in general, if the users themselves don't violate the policies implemented as listed below.

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Many countries that prohibit online gambling rely on gambling sites and casinos to screen their citizens using IP addresses and prevent them from playing. Here's why using a VPN for online gambling is so common: VPN changes your IP address, so you can spoof your location.

However there is no guarantee that the VPN will work. In some countries like UK, the best and well-known betting sites use KYC (Know Your Customer) identity checks to verify your signup information. If you don't have any digital footprint in the country whose IP address you spoofed, you may not even be able to create an account.

Additionally, even if you manage to create an account on a site that has been banned on your country's IP address, you may still face other challenges when it comes time to withdraw money. Many sites will ask for proof of identity and address before paying their users' winning bets.

In essence, it is quite difficult to effectively surpass these limitations of online gambling. However, this has not stopped people from trying. Some users have found that using a VPN helps them in gaining access to certain sites for gambling.

The quote above has answered all your complaints about the KYC system, nothing is wrong, I think it's good if you visit a certain online casino it doesn't pass KYC, maybe if it passes, other obstacles like the one in the quote above, might be even more difficult when you make a withdrawal and win big.

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January 15, 2023, 02:13:19 PM
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In its beginnings, crypto casinos had anonymity as part of their marketing and it is an idea that is still in the air.

Then or consequently many unsuspecting users fall into the ToS that today you must read, there is your answer.

That is, it's about legal conditions of use established by mutual agreement between the parties, users and Casino.  So when you register you accept them.

Do your research, there are Crypto casinos that can still afford to shape KYC to suit different types of users in their gaming habits Gambling, so don't risk bypassing a KYC or trying to play in an unreliable casino or club.

You can start losing money in a fair casino without placing a bet, when you do not in the correct casino.

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