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Title: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Maslate on January 15, 2023, 01:47:14 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working.
For those who don't know about this strategy, you can read here to educate yourself. https://www.wsn.com/betting-guide/betting-against-public/ Also, this website is providing details about public bets, I'm not sure how accurate it is, but we can use this as a reference since I haven't found another one. You can also comment if you some reliable sites. https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/public-betting Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Oshosondy on January 15, 2023, 02:29:18 PM I have seen some live score prediction sites that indicates the people that go for win, draw or lose, but this has been what I do not always consider, even I noticed most times that people take the teams I want to go for, but just that I can select only one team because not all are certain. But this is how I do it, if I want to take a team, I will make analysis myself to know if the team are worth going for.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Botnake on January 15, 2023, 02:44:25 PM They said most of us lose in sports betting, and since most of us would usually pick the public play, then I guess that strategy is working. The question now is how to determine the public play, and you also need to have a high discipline because not all public play will lose, it's just most of the public play will fail, so slowly but surely, you might be profitable.
I checked the website, not sure how they got that percentage of public bets since you need to subscribe if you will click that "lock" sign. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Yogee on January 15, 2023, 03:37:11 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. It probably does since the reward is higher in case you win. You'll probably succeed betting on the huge underdog in 1 out of 10 bets - my rough estimate only. How you'll pace your bets to maximize your potential profit is the question here.I personally don't follow a fix strategy like betting against the public. I often just bet on teams that I think will win or if they can cover the spread and handicap. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: cabron on January 15, 2023, 03:52:16 PM There are times that I'm also rooting for the MMA underdog especially because I'm a fan of the underdog and saw him did win against a badass fighter. But most of the time, the bookmakers are right about the odds. There are times when the underdog wins, an upset so they say, and sure the ones who put thier money into the underdog get the enormous winning. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Findingnemo on January 15, 2023, 03:59:05 PM If the strategy works the bettor will make huge returns compared to the bet amount but there is no reason for this strategy to work every time. You should make bets on who is the favorites to win the game based on the players strenth, current performance and lot of other factors depends on every game so don't simply go with against of odds which means high rewards with slim chance of making it.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: AverageGlabella on January 15, 2023, 04:01:57 PM Betting websites rely on you taking the better odds because most of the time those with the best odds lose that is the whole reason for them having favorites and different odds. They take the history of the team or fighter and use that to determine who will win the match/fight and price the odds according to that. If you bet on the underdog every time you will probably lose money in the long run. If you bet on the favorite every time you probably will not earn that much when they win and when they lose you will lose what you just earned. You cannot blindly bet on odds you need to know the fighters or teams yourself and make a educated guess on what you think will happen instead of following some weak "bet against public" style bets.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Pierre 2 on January 15, 2023, 04:07:57 PM I think its point is to strike better odds to multiply money, its not exactly "winner" strategy. Although I think it can work. Sometimes football teams' performance are exeggerated in media after 3-0, 4-0 win against weak team. Yet no one looks their next opponent. I sometimes come up "counter-attacker" football teams that are underdog and can beat strong teams with wise strategy. So you should be cautious and detect good matches to bet and make a lot of money.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: rhomelmabini on January 15, 2023, 04:11:40 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. Betting against the favorite or against the crowd is likely a luck base scenario but for me I rarely win in this kind of bets. I think the author covers a lot of information in this article and it's worth a read on how betting against the public will work but I think proper risk management could be a back up in here and not go all in most of the time.Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Slow death on January 15, 2023, 04:15:08 PM Also, this website is providing details about public bets one thing is for sure, all people should not depend on other people to analyze a game for them, this thing of depending on other people is something very bad, the person can even find someone who can predict the results of the games for him, but what if one day that person dies or gives up betting or runs away with people's money then all the people who depended on him to place bets will no longer be able to bet, that's why I always recommend that each person learn to do analysis on their own, at least right or wrong the person knows that it depends on him/herself There are times that I'm also rooting for the MMA underdog especially because I'm a fan of the underdog and saw him did win against a badass fighter. But most of the time, the bookmakers are right about the odds. There are times when the underdog wins, an upset so they say, and sure the ones who put thier money into the underdog get the enormous winning. betting on the underdog is definitely not a good strategy in the long run, you and anyone else can test this for months and you will see that at the end of the day your bankroll went bankrupt, it is very difficult to profit from gambling , in the same way that it is very difficult create an effective strategy in this gambling market Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: mu_enrico on January 15, 2023, 04:16:51 PM Yes, it works if you have more information than the public for example if you work as a scout, journalist, or coaching staff. Betting against the public isn't the same as underdog betting tho, since you can have more information and analysis but still bet on the favorite. Probably you'll be more confident about taking handicaps or other strange bets like corners, etc. Probably a fine example of betting against the public is on AJ vs USYK I, IIRC public favored AJ more since he's popular (https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowitz/2021/09/24/anthony-joshua-vs-oleksandr-usyk-odds-records-prediction/), however, many boxing pros know that he's only a bodybuilder lol.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: BobK71 on January 15, 2023, 04:21:50 PM Gamblers constantly try to follow new stretegy for batting to win. Not all the strategies will work. Many strategies work once or twice, but later it does not work. However, no matter how good the strategy, it will not work too long. The strategy that the OP has talked about can be effective. But not for all the time. In applying this technique, it is necessary to keep the risk of taking a threat. You have to think adversely when the team is in good condition. On the other hand, it is very difficult to support the opposite team in a match that is adversely but you have to obey. Strategy and luck both are needed to win in any betting.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: cabron on January 15, 2023, 04:31:35 PM Also, this website is providing details about public bets one thing is for sure, all people should not depend on other people to analyze a game for them, this thing of depending on other people is something very bad, the person can even find someone who can predict the results of the games for him, but what if one day that person dies or gives up betting or runs away with people's money then all the people who depended on him to place bets will no longer be able to bet, that's why I always recommend that each person learn to do analysis on their own, at least right or wrong the person knows that it depends on him/herself There are times that I'm also rooting for the MMA underdog especially because I'm a fan of the underdog and saw him did win against a badass fighter. But most of the time, the bookmakers are right about the odds. There are times when the underdog wins, an upset so they say, and sure the ones who put thier money into the underdog get the enormous winning. betting on the underdog is definitely not a good strategy in the long run, you and anyone else can test this for months and you will see that at the end of the day your bankroll went bankrupt, it is very difficult to profit from gambling , in the same way that it is very difficult create an effective strategy in this gambling market It is actually tempting to bet for the underdog when you see the odds by bookies when they see the fight is just a tuneup fight where the odds are too much for the crowd's favorite which betting for the underdog to win makes you wanna bet a small amount like $10 and you could get $120. How cool is that, just think about that you throw away $10 in a dice game and lost it. But like I said, I will have to convince myself if the underdog can strick a lucky punch or a head kick. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: uneng on January 15, 2023, 04:49:45 PM It's not the public who create the odds of a match. Most people just go for the favorite, which is defined by the sportsbook, thinking he is the probable winner.
I can't see difference from "betting against the public strategy" to "betting on the underdog strategy". The public (majority) will be always against the underdog, and it's the duty of a professional gambler who is educated on the sport in question to decide when it's a good moment to play with the public (going for the favorite) or against the public (going for the underdog). Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: flipme on January 15, 2023, 05:19:31 PM I don't think this is the right choice. Of course, there are surprises in every sporting event, but I don't think it makes much sense to turn this into a strategy. In my opinion, such a strategy will appear to be unsuccessful when the percentage is calculated. For me, knowing the surprise match results correctly is almost equivalent to knowing the lottery draw results and winning the jackpot. This is why I would never use such a tactic. I always prefer to make bets that seem more guaranteed. Tring to predict surprise results cannot be my top priority.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on January 15, 2023, 05:40:35 PM IMO, It is not as easy as said to identify the spots that influence most bettors' opinions by other factors; if it were as easy as that, then it would be a great opportunity to bet against the public.
According to your source link, the factors that are said to influence public opinion, are star players, home advantage, team reputation, and the media narrative can help determine the influence of the public and, therefore, how to bet against it. This is just the first time I've heard about the strategy, and I will study more about it and try it out as well to compare the results with those of the public. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: rahmad2nd on January 15, 2023, 05:55:40 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. For those who don't know about this strategy, you can read here to educate yourself. https://www.wsn.com/betting-guide/betting-against-public/ For this matter, I understand very well related to the contents written in the article. and I'm sure, if sportsbook gamblers want to understand it, especially for beginners. there are many points that can be learned from the articles you share, I say again especially for beginners. For me personally, I have understood the concepts written in the article. however, the method of application must involve high insight, experience and knowledge, moreover, must be good at reading situations, especially in terms of analysis and all sources of information that are up to date. Also, this website is providing details about public bets, I'm not sure how accurate it is, but we can use this as a reference since I haven't found another one. You can also comment if you some reliable sites. https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/public-betting I think there are many references that we can use, but only as a benchmark in terms of our assessment, especially after conducting an analysis. remember, there is no guarantee at all that what is presented on the site that you share guarantees its accuracy. The reason is, in sports there are no exact calculations like mathematics. every result, is always determined when the match has been running or over. by the way, the link you shared can also be a reference for gamblers. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Fortify on January 15, 2023, 05:56:20 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. For those who don't know about this strategy, you can read here to educate yourself. Also, this website is providing details about public bets, I'm not sure how accurate it is, but we can use this as a reference since I haven't found another one. You can also comment if you some reliable sites. Most crowd sourced betting starts at the odds that bookmakers are marking up and could potentially allow for narrow extra profits because it takes out the "buffer" that sportbooks add in to guarantee longer term profit. I'd also argue with one of the first ideas that comes up in the second section, every bet does not always have one of two outcomes. It can have three or more, if you look at soccer (or many other sports) one of the most common bets offered is Win / Lose / Draw. You'd be surprised but crowd sourced wisdom is probably more reliable over the long run, although it can definitely make small mistakes along the way - which are more to do with the occasional upsets where the underdog wins that every sport can have. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Mauser on January 15, 2023, 05:58:26 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. For those who don't know about this strategy, you can read here to educate yourself. https://www.wsn.com/betting-guide/betting-against-public/ Sounds like a very interesting strategy. I would agree with the article that a lot of people bet on what they would like yo happen, and not what is the most likely scenario to happen. When it come to sports there is a lot of emotions and rivalry involved. Some fans would never consider betting on any other then than their home team, which means that the odds for the big teams with a huge fan base should be skewed. Trying to exploit this inefficiency and betting on the underdog should be a good strategy. The only problem I see is that there are a lot of different bookmakers out there which all place their own bets. So it might take some time to collect all the data across all betting platforms to see which are the most popular and where is the majority getting the odds wrong. Would be nice to run the strategies for a few different leagues and compare where it is the most profitable. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: coolcoinz on January 15, 2023, 06:12:49 PM I've known this strategy for years but I knew it as putting money on the underdog. I often did it in football when there was a bunch of matches in a single week. Say we all had $100 to bet and my friends would usually split it in 2 and bet 50 on each of the 2 teams they liked the best and expected to win, while I'd bet $20 on 5 matches, always betting for the underdog. The results were sometimes funny as they'd lose 1 and win 1, winning maybe $20 on the whole thing, while I'd lose 4 and win only 1, but I'd still get ahead, getting $50 out of it even though I lost 4 bets.
Try it also on MMA matches putting all money on every underdog in a single event and see how it goes. Often a single win will get you far ahead. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Viscore on January 15, 2023, 07:58:50 PM If the strategy works the bettor will make huge returns compared to the bet amount but there is no reason for this strategy to work every time. You should make bets on who is the favorites to win the game based on the players strenth, current performance and lot of other factors depends on every game so don't simply go with against of odds which means high rewards with slim chance of making it. I guess that’s how gambling works uncertainly. Even if you bet at the crowd’s favorite or at the underdog, there won’t still guarantees that your bet will work that’s why betting should be made based on individual’s performance level, current statistics of the teams, or just simply looking out for the best available odds. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: swogerino on January 15, 2023, 08:13:14 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. For those who don't know about this strategy, you can read here to educate yourself. https://www.wsn.com/betting-guide/betting-against-public/ Also, this website is providing details about public bets, I'm not sure how accurate it is, but we can use this as a reference since I haven't found another one. You can also comment if you some reliable sites. https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/public-betting Lately Hhampuz a user here and one of the well known campaign managers won near 100k in dollars or almost 6 Bitcoins with just a mere 0.02 Bitcoin as a bet in this thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4479837.msg61595068#msg61595068 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4479837.msg61595068#msg61595068) He got completely against the majority of people,he choose Man.United against City,he choose Brighton over Liverpool and he choose Southampton over Everton in a Premier League parlay that he played.It looks like going against the public is a strategy working but most of the time it doesn't and these are isolated cases,I have been a member of this forum for many years and that recent win I only saw now,which means not many people win going against what most other people bet on but when they do they hit it big. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: dothebeats on January 15, 2023, 08:24:09 PM Betting against the public doesn't always necessarily mean that you're doing the right thing. You have to consider a lot of factors that might affect the status of your bet, and whether or not it's sensible to go against the majority just to get that extra juice. I would personally use the public's insight on a certain event and use that information to look for lines that still have some value in them, while not necessarily copying their bets. This has a lot more sense to it because you're playing for the win and value and not to just go against the public. Look for sensible ideas first before locking in your bets.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Unknown01 on January 15, 2023, 08:30:52 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. Lately Hhampuz a user here and one of the well known campaign managers won near 100k in dollars or almost 6 Bitcoins with just a mere 0.02 Bitcoin as a bet in this thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4479837.msg61595068#msg61595068 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4479837.msg61595068#msg61595068) He got completely against the majority of people,he choose Man.United against City,he choose Brighton over Liverpool and he choose Southampton over Everton in a Premier League parlay that he played.It looks like going against the public is a strategy working but most of the time it doesn't and these are isolated cases,I have been a member of this forum for many years and that recent win I only saw now,which means not many people win going against what most other people bet on but when they do they hit it big. That's very impressive what Hhampuz bet there and the win is extremely good. I'm happy for him, but you have to be able to place a bet like that (that´s not easy). In general, I think that betting against the majority is not such a bad strategy, as the odds are higher and underdogs win a game more often or at least play a draw as most people think. If you then choose the right games, you can win big like Hhampuz, but it's definitely not that easy. In my opinion it's definitely worth a try! Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: livingfree on January 15, 2023, 08:50:15 PM I did that before and when I can avail to be against the public, I do it. It's just for my own satisfaction whether I win or not, it doesn't matter and the amount of bet that I release is the normal ones that I can afford to lose.
Not a YOLO but a bet that can easily win back whenever I take bets that are together with the public. Sometimes it's good to be against the public and you literally going to play the gamble that you think is worth of doing. Because that adds flavor to your bets and if you just want to do something different and new. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: goaldigger on January 15, 2023, 08:59:08 PM That can work if your analysis is way better compare to the public and you want to take the risk because the odds are better and there’s a higher chance for you to make profit. Public views and opinions are not accurate, that is also based on their own analysis which you can also do it as a bettor, betting against them can be more exciting though the risk will always be there since this is gambling. There are times that your analysis are also same with the public, with that I can consider betting with them.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: KTChampions on January 15, 2023, 09:02:35 PM Losing to the bookmaker does not depend on whether you bet against the public or not, but on the fact that the bookmaker has a margin (similar to the house edge). Theoretically, sometimes the crowd can distort the odds on events (if they bet too much money on one of the outcomes), but in reality such situations are rare and the odds are not so distorted as to extract a guaranteed profit from it.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Ulven on January 15, 2023, 09:16:14 PM Betting against the public, also known as fading the public,is a betting strategy that involves betting against the majority of bets placed on a particular event by the general public.the idea behind this strategy is that the general public makes less informed or emotional bets,so betting against them can give you an advantage.the strategy is not guaranteed to work and is dependent on a variety of factors, including the betting market,the event,and the data used to identify public bets.
it's a good idea to do your own research and gather as much information as possible before making any bets.websites like ActionNetwork and ESPN are providing the public bets and it can be use as a reference, but they should not be the sole basis for making a bet. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: crzy on January 15, 2023, 09:17:57 PM Most of the time yes since betting requires analysis and the result sometimes is different and the public is not always right so going against them sometimes are also a good idea. If you don’t want to analyze that much then you can follow the public and take the risk there’s still no assurance for that though because if the public is always right then all the bettors will have a good profit now which I think is not possible always.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Rabi3 on January 15, 2023, 09:19:29 PM I was literally talking about this few hours ago with a couple of friends, I used to even see what people are favoring here in the gambling section and bet on the opposite side, and I already have an eye on a match in the champions league, PSG vs Bayern Munich, most people are saying that PSG are better and have better players, and based on that I'm really considering to bet on Bayern Munic, this strategy can work for sure, because you would win more than what you'd lose.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: pixie85 on January 15, 2023, 09:40:42 PM It's the same as betting with the public.
You're sacrificing odds to get a higher reward per dollar. When you go with the flow you get for example 2:1 if you win, but if you go against it you can get 4:1, but with 50% lower chance to win. I'd say it's a matter of perspective whether you want this or that. I play dice at around 50% but there are people who prefer 40% with a higher reward. I don't try to stick with a strategy like that. I prefer to bet on teams or players that I know are good or the ones I like even when hey aren't favored to win. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: bitbollo on January 15, 2023, 09:48:05 PM it is certainly a winning strategy in some cases, because many gamblers interpret the events "on paper" and not on real facts.
Example, top player tennis player playing against a strong but average ranked player. anyone would be pushed to play the top player, but perhaps upon closer inspection one can discover that - the player is out of shape, - he is preparing for a more important tournament, - his opponent is in excellent form. etc.... In short, it is not a system that can always work "betting against what the public thinks" but it is certainly a situation to keep an eye on. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: iv4n on January 15, 2023, 10:06:43 PM it is certainly a winning strategy in some cases... As you wrote, this is a winning strategy in some cases. We have the same thing in trading discussions, and from my point of view, this strategy will have better results in trading than in gambling. But again, we go back to the same old, there are strategies that work in some specific period of time, but none will work forever. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Baofeng on January 15, 2023, 10:14:40 PM I think there is no secret strategy here, so still 50/50 in my opinion. But what I usually do though is to look for the underdog and see if they can do upset the favorite in a game. For sure this could be considered as betting against the public since obviously, the favorite is where they are putting their money.
But again, it's not usually the case, sometimes I win, sometimes I lost my bet on the underdog. So I must say that it works but in certain and extreme occasion and everything should be perfectly align that night if you are going to bet against the public and win big. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: chaser15 on January 15, 2023, 10:26:22 PM The answer if the strategy is working or effective, is based on the different user's experiences.
To make it short but generalized, for those who already used that strategy and it works for them, the response would be YES. On the other hand, if some users didn't experience some good results trying out that strategy, the response would be NO. To check for real if the strategy will work for you, do it in actual for a set period of time, instead of just simulating the possible outputs. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Vaskiy on January 15, 2023, 10:40:05 PM It isn't a strategy. This has been a practice followed by most gamblers. This succeeds with the lucky ones. When we're making bets against the public, it means we're choosing the high odds. During the world cup we were able to experience few matches that had given good win for the users who made bets against the public. In the match between Argentina and Saudi Arabia, everyone's choice is Argentina and the users who picked against the choice turned to be luckiest.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: harizen on January 15, 2023, 11:44:56 PM I have been gambling for a long but never tried or attempted this strategy. As reading the article, the said strategy was considered a "powerful" strategy but if it really does, why do I think only a few seem interested? Or they are not just lurking here? Who knows.
Referring specifically to basketball matches, I think doing that strategy won't work most of the time. That's why maybe I didn't hear much about the term in basketball betting. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: molsewid on January 15, 2023, 11:50:11 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. Getting the bet against the public and to win it is still possible. Since many people just going with the flow, they are just betting on the larger side in which the odds are in favor with but then if you will bet on the other side and if that side win, you will get a larger return, you really just need to critically analyze the things first before doing that of course, the reason why other people chooses the other side because they are confident to that team of course. For those who don't know about this strategy, you can read here to educate yourself. https://www.wsn.com/betting-guide/betting-against-public/ Also, this website is providing details about public bets, I'm not sure how accurate it is, but we can use this as a reference since I haven't found another one. You can also comment if you some reliable sites. https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/public-betting Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: boyptc on January 15, 2023, 11:51:07 PM It isn't a strategy. This has been a practice followed by most gamblers. This succeeds with the lucky ones. When we're making bets against the public, it means we're choosing the high odds. During the world cup we were able to experience few matches that had given good win for the users who made bets against the public. In the match between Argentina and Saudi Arabia, everyone's choice is Argentina and the users who picked against the choice turned to be luckiest. Yeah, it's more of a choice and not a strategy. But if someone considers it as a strategy then that's still fine, not really a problem to be called as a strategy or a choice.Those that want to be with such high odds and greater returns, as long as they know what's the chance of winning ability by the underdog then it's not a case that they should skip because many are doing this type of bet. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: qwertyup23 on January 15, 2023, 11:57:19 PM I have seen some live score prediction sites that indicates the people that go for win, draw or lose, but this has been what I do not always consider, even I noticed most times that people take the teams I want to go for, but just that I can select only one team because not all are certain. But this is how I do it, if I want to take a team, I will make analysis myself to know if the team are worth going for. I guess this works sometimes but not most of the time? This kind of betting falls on a specific kind of team that you are rooting for. Since a person is betting against the public, he/she is somehow not considering other factors and facts that may lessen the risk of losing. An example can be seen in sports betting where a person will bet on his favorite team, rather than betting on a team that is much superior in terms of its winning rate, stats, shooters, etc. Though this kind of betting is particularly fun, it is somehow more risky on your end. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: goinmerry on January 15, 2023, 11:58:55 PM I'm not aware of this but with just a quick thinking, I think that was more risky.
Instead of betting against the public, why not just hunt for some decent odds that is worth the risk? Who here actually tried that strategy? Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: ralle14 on January 16, 2023, 12:21:19 AM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. To me it goes both ways, there would be certain markets where betting against the public would be the better move but it's only a matter of time until the strategy becomes less effective and their record goes back to even. I agree with what bitbollo said, the strategy can work and it can be a good guideline on which bets to go for and avoid if you're into following trends but it's not always the best strategy since they can still fail with the help of other factors. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: bittraffic on January 16, 2023, 12:36:20 AM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. To me it goes both ways, there would be certain markets where betting against the public would be the better move but it's only a matter of time until the strategy becomes less effective and their record goes back to even. I agree with what bitbollo said, the strategy can work and it can be a good guideline on which bets to go for and avoid if you're into following trends but it's not always the best strategy since they can still fail with the help of other factors. Doesn't happen every time a gambler expects. It rarely happens at all, it's kind of fluke for a stooge to win but he will definitely surprise a lot of bettors when it happens. In basketball, it rarely happens unless more than one-star player of a team is not present in the game and the others are not confident enough. Betting against the public strategy might only be applied to such a situation and yet you still have 50/50 chance. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Fundamentals Of on January 16, 2023, 01:27:44 AM I think we have already tried this at one point in our betting experience. One of the most popular ways to bet against the public is to go for the underdog. I have placed many bets on the underdog. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose. That's just the way betting works, a favorite could lose, an underdog could win. An expected result could happen, an upset could also happen. But one thing I won't do is to always bet against the public without making my own simple analysis. In the end, it would all still be about analysis.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Wexnident on January 16, 2023, 01:58:24 AM I'd say one of the easiest examples of this is betting on the underdog, but that's harder than any bet to predict imo so it's not really reliant, but betting on other factors of the said match can prove to be much better, like the number of goals made and factors like that. It's really good if you can do it, after all, a match with one-sided odds can give you a LOT if it wasn't exactly "one-sided" as initially thought.
It's a lot riskier though, since in the end even if it wasn't just the final result but also some other factors, you'd still need to study and believe that the underdog team has the necessary skill to perform better against the better one. And odds so one-sided like this only happens if the skill level between the two is often seen as big, like really big in gap imo. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: pawanjain on January 16, 2023, 02:11:28 AM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. For those who don't know about this strategy, you can read here to educate yourself. https://www.wsn.com/betting-guide/betting-against-public/ Also, this website is providing details about public bets, I'm not sure how accurate it is, but we can use this as a reference since I haven't found another one. You can also comment if you some reliable sites. https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/public-betting It works and give good profits but not all the time. Also, it requires guts to use this strategy because you are going against the prediction of so many people. We have seen it in the FIFA world cup where the underdogs won quite a few times giving good profits to the bettors. So yeah it does work but we must know what we are doing before using this strategy. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: maydna on January 16, 2023, 02:27:46 AM I think we have already tried this at one point in our betting experience. One of the most popular ways to bet against the public is to go for the underdog. I have placed many bets on the underdog. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose. That's just the way betting works, a favorite could lose, an underdog could win. An expected result could happen, an upset could also happen. But one thing I won't do is to always bet against the public without making my own simple analysis. In the end, it would all still be about analysis. That is correct. We can bet on any team we want, but we also have to know that it doesn't always guarantee we can win because there is a luck factor that we must have to win. When betting, we only have two choices of the result, and if we are lucky, we will win it. We also must be aware that analysis cannot always give us victory because circumstances can change direction and make us experience defeat. So we can't expect too much always to win because it will be difficult to get.Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: BobK71 on January 16, 2023, 04:43:09 AM That can work if your analysis is way better compare to the public and you want to take the risk because the odds are better and there’s a higher chance for you to make profit. Public views and opinions are not accurate, that is also based on their own analysis which you can also do it as a bettor, betting against them can be more exciting though the risk will always be there since this is gambling. There are times that your analysis are also same with the public, with that I can consider betting with them. Betting against the general public does not necessarily lead to good results. Therefore, a gambler has to use his intelligence to analyze the judgment. I also can't say this strategy is bad at all because in today's games match fixing has become a business where a good team can lose to a weak team. Even with the wide spread of betting odds, the weaker teams can win there. But this strategy cannot be considered as a bad one. However, this technique will not be effective in all cases. A gambler has to make decisions based on situational considerations.Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: ralle14 on January 16, 2023, 05:02:52 AM Doesn't happen every time a gambler expects. It rarely happens at all, it's kind of fluke for a stooge to win but he will definitely surprise a lot of bettors when it happens. If we're only limiting it within the moneylines or match winners market i'd agree with you but i'm talking about other markets like the handicaps and totals where the odds are usually close to 50-50. In basketball, it rarely happens unless more than one-star player of a team is not present in the game and the others are not confident enough. Betting against the public strategy might only be applied to such a situation and yet you still have 50/50 chance. You still need to keep in mind the other types of bets since not all gamblers focus on who's going to win most of the time and there's money to be made on other markets. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Jating on January 16, 2023, 05:08:02 AM Probably this is just one strategy made up by someone who bet on games that he didn't know and won some money and later he know that what he bet is against the public.
So yes this could make or break for some gamblers. I mean the strategy is just to simply that you just have to look at what the public is betting on public like going to Vegas and see how the betting is going on several games and then choose the opposite. If you win then good for you. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: danherbias07 on January 16, 2023, 07:20:19 AM It's gigantic work if you do this manually by researching. The simple way is just looking at what the bookies are offering. The heavy favorites are what mostly the media is predicting to win and the underdogs have the higher profits with higher risk included. It doesn't mean they will not win.
Betting against the public will need an indicator and connections, I don't think what will be shown on websites that specialized in those fields will just throw away such important information. I like betting for underdogs but it always end up bad, the public may have the same analysis as what you have that's why it's not easy to bet against it. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: _act_ on January 16, 2023, 08:14:39 AM Probably this is just one strategy made up by someone who bet on games that he didn't know and won some money and later he know that what he bet is against the public. Assuming most people take win for team A, because of that you take team B which is underdog to winteam A. What if team A or B do not win but draw, that just mean that the match is a lost for the gambler. A gambler can win a match he chose that a lesser strong team to win which the public do not go for, but to lose in gambling is a way easier. What we should know is that the odds are set by bookmakers in a way not to favour the gambler.Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Gozie51 on January 16, 2023, 08:58:43 AM It is not new to gambling. I have heard people betting this way but I don't really think it makes any difference especially in football and where you can't prove match fixing or how will the players know of the population of bettors in a particular odd or betting option. So I don't consider it professional but yet a prove that gambling is a game of luck and to whatever means you device to win so you try on it.
The reason for thinking to bet against the public is that people think that since greater number of people have bet in a certain direction that the luck will go against them so they want to stay behind the other side. But IMO I think to do a personal analysis of the game is better than just betting randomly depending on the public view or bet. I know a friend who doesn't allow others to see his betting slip just because of this reason of public awareness of the bet. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: klidex on January 16, 2023, 09:20:39 AM I'm not aware of this but with just a quick thinking, I think that was more risky. Any strategy or method in gambling certainly has a very big risk.Instead of betting against the public, why not just hunt for some decent odds that is worth the risk? Who here actually tried that strategy? However, this risk can be minimized depending on how the gambler himself carries out the strategy. If someone doesn't want to take risks, I think it's impossible because in every action a person doesn't just gamble, there is definitely a risk. It's true that in gambling, if you choose a bigger risk, the profit you get is also much bigger, but we can't equate this thinking to everyone because they have their own way of thinking. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: harapan on January 16, 2023, 09:24:17 AM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. It works sometimes and doesn't work sometimes. I cant say I use it as a strategy, I just follow my intuition and if my intuition goes against the public then so be it. It doesn't matter if the whole world plays a particular bet the same way, if my intuition tells me otherwise then i'll follow and I regret it sometimes when I don't listen. An instance was the Napoli vs Juventus game and the Lecce vs AC Milan game. I was so certain Napoli would win Juventus for unknown reasons. I even said it on the Italian league thread. That's what my gut told me and I was convinced. Same goes to the the Milan game. I just had this gut feeling that Milan was not going to win that game. I don't do it based on the public opinion, I didn't bet against Milan because majority of the public bet on Milan its just a gut feeling. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on January 16, 2023, 09:43:40 AM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. It sure works, but this is not a strategy that works or shows up all the time or everyday, the only time I can tell you that betting against the public worked for me was in recent QATAR 2022 world cup that just ended, and it was the match between Morocco and Croatia, from the odds, I could see that the public were pouring their bets on Croatia to win the match, after seeing how attractive Morocco's odd is and putting into consideration how they've played well against Portugal, i decided that they could end up beating Croatia, so I betted against the public in that match, and amazingly, i was right, Morocco beat Croatia and that was how i won some really good amount of money.And like i said, the above is the only time betting against the public has really worked for me, every other time i tried, it has always ended in a loss. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: ethereumhunter on January 16, 2023, 10:00:11 AM Probably this is just one strategy made up by someone who bet on games that he didn't know and won some money and later he know that what he bet is against the public. It could be because there is so much that gamblers can do with their money to gamble. Or maybe he purposely wanted to see the results to know what he should do in the next game. It will depend on each strategy, whether he will bet against the public or on the side of the public because every gambler will have his own strategy and analysis. And the strategy he used could work for a while. But the important thing is that we can know ourselves in choosing the right strategy.So yes this could make or break for some gamblers. I mean the strategy is just to simply that you just have to look at what the public is betting on public like going to Vegas and see how the betting is going on several games and then choose the opposite. If you win then good for you. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: STT on January 16, 2023, 10:06:45 AM MMA it might work because that sport is crazy wild with similar results possible to any reasonable contender. Boxing some might become undefeatable but MMA it feels more possible for anyone to get lucky in the extremes, all depends on the odds of course but Im open to the idea. Its best to know the sport you are betting on rather just guessing, I dont think that will work out for most people but in a subject you have regular experience on its well worth the idea.
The other advantage to underdog bets is the actual amount required in the bet is not as much, yes it can be more likely to lose but that doesnt make it worse value in ratio terms to a low odds bet but large amount required. I get quite uncomfortable when odds are 10% or less, Im more of a spectator for those games/bets. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: GigaBit on January 16, 2023, 10:42:13 AM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. It works sometimes and doesn't work sometimes. I cant say I use it as a strategy, I just follow my intuition and if my intuition goes against the public then so be it. It doesn't matter if the whole world plays a particular bet the same way, if my intuition tells me otherwise then i'll follow and I regret it sometimes when I don't listen. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: carlisle1 on January 16, 2023, 12:42:44 PM Probably this is just one strategy made up by someone who bet on games that he didn't know and won some money and later he know that what he bet is against the public. It could be because there is so much that gamblers can do with their money to gamble. Or maybe he purposely wanted to see the results to know what he should do in the next game. It will depend on each strategy, whether he will bet against the public or on the side of the public because every gambler will have his own strategy and analysis. And the strategy he used could work for a while. But the important thing is that we can know ourselves in choosing the right strategy.So yes this could make or break for some gamblers. I mean the strategy is just to simply that you just have to look at what the public is betting on public like going to Vegas and see how the betting is going on several games and then choose the opposite. If you win then good for you. Indeed, everything depends on how gambler project his bet, playing against the public is one strategy it's not a guarantee that you will get the outcome that you anticipated. Most of the time, those who bet against the public are people who have a strong nerve that can carry the heavy risk. If you win your bet, it will be sweet and a good achievement, if you lose, then you will need to move forward and try your luck in your next pick. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Maslate on January 16, 2023, 01:00:09 PM Yes, it works if you have more information than the public for example if you work as a scout, journalist, or coaching staff. Betting against the public isn't the same as underdog betting tho, since you can have more information and analysis but still bet on the favorite. Probably you'll be more confident about taking handicaps or other strange bets like corners, etc. Probably a fine example of betting against the public is on AJ vs USYK I, IIRC public favored AJ more since he's popular (https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowitz/2021/09/24/anthony-joshua-vs-oleksandr-usyk-odds-records-prediction/), however, many boxing pros know that he's only a bodybuilder lol. That's something we have to learn, public bets are not necessary the favorites, it can also be the underdog of the game or fight. This strategy does not require a lot of job to be done, as long as you have a reliable resources, it doesn't matter if you have to pay as long as it's reliable, I think you can win most of the time. The bookies are definitely making money from commission, but they probably make money easily from the public bets who does not carefully study their bets, when it's popular, they will certainly go for it. I'm wondering if there are bettors here who are experimenting using the stated method, please share your experience, are you in profit or loss? Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: trendcoin on January 16, 2023, 02:21:40 PM It is not a method I would prefer. In my opinion, all gambling (including sports events) is largely an event of chance, but nevertheless, I aim to use even the smallest detail of information in all my bets. For example, if I'm going to predict the outcome of a match, I look at the squads of the teams in that match and their performance in the last matches and then make a decision. Other methods are not my preferred methods.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 16, 2023, 03:03:09 PM Though it depends on personal interest but i cannot depend or rely on other gambling sites to give me the required strategies i needed, well some gamblers take this an an opportunity for getting clue to the games they intended playing, i have seen some gamblers that uses the open gambling tips as for their own gambling pattern and strategies and they go with that, some take their time to make amendment and play but all that is required most is for a gambler to always play the game they have idea about the strategies to use in playing them because they have their money involved and will be responsible for any outcome aftermath.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Desmong on January 16, 2023, 03:20:09 PM Though it depends on personal interest but i cannot depend or rely on other gambling sites to give me the required strategies i needed, well some gamblers take this an an opportunity for getting clue to the games they intended playing, i have seen some gamblers that uses the open gambling tips as for their own gambling pattern and strategies and they go with that, some take their time to make amendment and play but all that is required most is for a gambler to always play the game they have idea about the strategies to use in playing them because they have their money involved and will be responsible for any outcome aftermath. We should always go for whatsoever works for us. Gambling is not meant to be as hard that we think. If we think that we can create our strategy from the way see the game predictions them that is fine and we should also get prepared and always try to manipulate things in a way that it will work for us and suit our bets.Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Cantsay on January 16, 2023, 03:39:47 PM We should always go for whatsoever works for us. Gambling is not meant to be as hard that we think. If we think that we can create our strategy from the way see the game predictions them that is fine and we should also get prepared and always try to manipulate things in a way that it will work for us and suit our bets. Agreed, most times people tend to neglect the fact that gambling should be done for fun though not everyone go there for this reason, but at least we should try to catch some fun while gambling but instead most gamblers get worked up with different strategies on how to win a bet that they don't even realize that there are stressing the f**k out of themself. And as for the Op I don't think betting against the public is a wise choice at least gamblers should try as much as possible to get a strategy that normally works for him/her and not just try to depend on other's opinions. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: AicecreaME on January 16, 2023, 04:08:19 PM I guess it is working, but of course, still do this with precaution if you aren't very much familiar with it.
While the concept of betting against the public is really simple, it could still be a little tricky because you'll never know if you are on the winning or losing end because there are still sudden turn of events even at the end of the game. Although I must say this is pretty much common in sports betting because people have the perception of joining or following someone or something that is stating that this team is great and thus, will win. Most people are gullible, let's admit it. Some are brainwashed with the ideas and information that the mainstream media feed their minds without knowing that these media outlets just want to make some noise and perhaps hype the team or player. Sometimes, the media just really left some reservations in publishing something so that they'll have more engagements and their name would be known. Meanwhile, some people are just not that into it but decided to go through it nonetheless. Which means they would bet just based on their gut feeling and little knowledge if ever they have any, which results to failed attempt bets because it wasn't backed up by factual information that are reliable and updated. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: irhact on January 16, 2023, 05:05:00 PM Gamblers constantly try to follow new stretegy for batting to win. Not all the strategies will work. Many strategies work once or twice, but later it does not work. However, no matter how good the strategy, it will not work too long. The strategy that the OP has talked about can be effective. But not for all the time. Does it really matter if it doesn't work for long, you have made your profit and you move on to newer strategy and there's nothing wrong in that. As a gambler you should be all in for the money therefore if you come across any opportunity that'll give you money then you should take it without hesitation. Majority never wins when it comes to betting because if they were to be winning then casinos won't be such a lucrative business. The fact that there are many casinos should tell you that majority of their customers are losing their money therefore, if you betting against them can be done in such a way that you won't lose much yourself if the bet was to go against you then do it. You'll likely win more been different from what others are doing. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: o48o on January 16, 2023, 05:15:35 PM I often play against the public. But that's not my strategy or that i would do it on purpose. I do it when i disagree with public and obviously there are benefits of high multipliers that are affecting to my decision to take the risk. Netting against public constantly doesn't seem like a counterproductive idea as you are also betting against higher probability. Which is exactly what makes betting skill based gambling and worth playing more then slots etc.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: rahmad2nd on January 16, 2023, 05:40:33 PM It is not a method I would prefer. In my opinion, all gambling (including sports events) is largely an event of chance, but nevertheless, I aim to use even the smallest detail of information in all my bets. For example, if I'm going to predict the outcome of a match, I look at the squads of the teams in that match and their performance in the last matches and then make a decision. Other methods are not my preferred methods. I don't agree with the points you said. but clearly, there is nothing wrong with your opinion. as you said, "is largely an event of chance" I think in sports, there really is no such thing as coincidence. I mean, not entirely true. if we refer to big teams, like Real Madrid for example. they became big, established, and strong not by accident. and that's why, Madrid always dominates La Liga. No exception to the method that is your choice, as when you make a bet. it all depends on how you analyze it carefully, even to bet against the public. success or failure, all depends on the outcome of the game. whatever our way, be it the method of betting against the public, or according to your own version. the goal is the same, namely to win from the bet. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Silberman on January 16, 2023, 05:42:57 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. This is a strategy that can definitely work but it is not simple to use, after all it is not enough to go against what the public believes will happen as there is a house edge on every bet that you make anyway, you need to find matches in which the overwhelming majority of the people have taken one side over the other and bet on the other side to receive better odds, however most of the time this means betting on long shots so you will lose very often.For those who don't know about this strategy, you can read here to educate yourself. https://www.wsn.com/betting-guide/betting-against-public/ Also, this website is providing details about public bets, I'm not sure how accurate it is, but we can use this as a reference since I haven't found another one. You can also comment if you some reliable sites. https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/public-betting Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: BitDane on January 16, 2023, 05:56:37 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. I have not experienced betting against public but I read whether it is profitable or not is somehow debatable. Some believe that public is often less informed and think that they are more likely to make mistakes but I think it depends on the kind of information we have. Just like the given example on the link given by @OP, betting on the underdog,even though gives a better odds, does not often result in a win. Thus betting against the public in this case work against us. For those who don't know about this strategy, you can read here to educate yourself. https://www.wsn.com/betting-guide/betting-against-public/ for those who do not want to click out of the forum Quote Betting against the public, or "fading the public," is a betting strategy that is based on the idea that the general public tends to make mistakes when placing bets. The reasoning behind this strategy is that the public is often less informed and more likely to be swayed by emotions and biases, which can lead them to make bad bets. By betting against the public, a bettor is essentially taking the opposite side of the most popular bet, and in theory, this could give them an edge if the public is indeed making mistakes. However, it's important to note that there is no guarantee that this strategy will be profitable. The odds are set by bookmakers to balance the amount of money being bet on each side and calculate the risk, taking into account the public betting behavior. So, fading the public does not necessarily mean that you will be betting on the underdog or getting better odds, it's just that you're betting on the side that is receiving less support from the general public. Additionally, it's important to keep in mind that the sports betting market is complex, and there are many factors that can affect the outcome of a game, including injuries, weather, and other unforeseen events. Therefore, it's important to use multiple strategies, and not just rely on betting against the public. In summary, fading the public is a betting strategy that can be used by bettors who believe that the general public is making mistakes when placing bets. However, it's important to keep in mind that there is no guarantee of success and using multiple strategies is recommended. to reiterate the advantage and disadvantage of betting against the public Pros:
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Also, this website is providing details about public bets, I'm not sure how accurate it is, but we can use this as a reference since I haven't found another one. You can also comment if you some reliable sites. https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/public-betting You can also check http://www.thespread.com/nfl-football-public-betting-chart Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: beerlover on January 16, 2023, 05:59:32 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. It sure works, but this is not a strategy that works or shows up all the time or everyday, the only time I can tell you that betting against the public worked for me was in recent QATAR 2022 world cup that just ended, and it was the match between Morocco and Croatia, from the odds, I could see that the public were pouring their bets on Croatia to win the match, after seeing how attractive Morocco's odd is and putting into consideration how they've played well against Portugal, i decided that they could end up beating Croatia, so I betted against the public in that match, and amazingly, i was right, Morocco beat Croatia and that was how i won some really good amount of money.And like i said, the above is the only time betting against the public has really worked for me, every other time i tried, it has always ended in a loss. This is why I believe that we should be focusing a bit more towards betting on the common results, that way we would not be making more money, but we would be winning more frequently and that's easier on the eyes and on our psychology as well. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: serjent05 on January 16, 2023, 06:08:34 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. It sure works, but this is not a strategy that works or shows up all the time or everyday, the only time I can tell you that betting against the public worked for me was in recent QATAR 2022 world cup that just ended, and it was the match between Morocco and Croatia, from the odds, I could see that the public were pouring their bets on Croatia to win the match, after seeing how attractive Morocco's odd is and putting into consideration how they've played well against Portugal, i decided that they could end up beating Croatia, so I betted against the public in that match, and amazingly, i was right, Morocco beat Croatia and that was how i won some really good amount of money.And like i said, the above is the only time betting against the public has really worked for me, every other time i tried, it has always ended in a loss. True, today everyone has access to vast information so betting against the public effectiveness has somehow deteriorated. The public is often informed now so the possibility of mistakes drops. Though betting against the public still works when a person knows how to position his bet very well. Else, betting against the public will more likely give us losses than winnings. This is why I believe that we should be focusing a bit more towards betting on the common results, that way we would not be making more money, but we would be winning more frequently and that's easier on the eyes and on our psychology as well. True, but if the opportunity opens its way that we can effectively take advantage of betting against the public then why not take the position of betting against the public, it will surely gives us way more profit because the odds will be so favorable to the minority. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: xSkylarx on January 16, 2023, 06:10:14 PM I just heard of this kind of strategy as I am not really fan on it , I am into opposite on this like having an overall gist on the fans like their speculations per team if they can win or not and also my own understanding and speculation. I don't really go deep or serious in sports betting it is just for fun and brought you excitement but when I try to recall this there are some couple of games that I've lost which if I use this strategy I should probably won. This is still 50% chance of winning same with my own speculations so I would still prefer my own insights per game.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: EarnOnVictor on January 16, 2023, 06:10:30 PM It is not a method I would prefer. In my opinion, all gambling (including sports events) is largely an event of chance, but nevertheless, I aim to use even the smallest detail of information in all my bets. For example, if I'm going to predict the outcome of a match, I look at the squads of the teams in that match and their performance in the last matches and then make a decision. Other methods are not my preferred methods. I second you on this, betting against the public is not a strategy, it's gambling with a different belief which I know would put the gambler in trouble most times. This approach would make the gambler lose much in football, though other gambling avenues might still be the same as they would be for any gambler because luck is mostly required.In gambling, no certain method works, but in football, you can easily predict the team that would win, this might not work all the time but it would work most times like say over 85% for the public. So predicting against over 85% means you have less than a 15% chance of winning, and it will not be able to sustain the person though the odds against the public are much higher. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on January 16, 2023, 06:36:05 PM I just heard of this kind of strategy as I am not really fan on it , I am into opposite on this like having an overall gist on the fans like their speculations per team if they can win or not and also my own understanding and speculation. I don't really go deep or serious in sports betting it is just for fun and brought you excitement but when I try to recall this there are some couple of games that I've lost which if I use this strategy I should probably won. This is still 50% chance of winning same with my own speculations so I would still prefer my own insights per game. Though, I don't totally understand what you meant, but to comment on the part I understood....It is a simple question, you talked about your insights, let's use that as an example, let's say for instance, Arsenal and Chelsea are playing a match, and you want to bet on the match, your insight tells you they Chelsea would win, and you are Goin to bet on Chelsea, opening your casino, from the odds, you can easily tell which team the general public is rooting and betting for to win, so let's say the general public thinks Chelsea would win too, this made the odds on Chelsea really low and the odds on Arsenal really high, this means that betting on Arsenal with little amount of money might help you win a really significant amount as profit. Would you leave or forget about your insight and bet on Arsenal instead of betting for Chelsea which is the public's choice,? have you ever tried this and has it ever worked for you? This is what we are discussing. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: KTChampions on January 16, 2023, 07:58:01 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. It works sometimes and doesn't work sometimes. I cant say I use it as a strategy, I just follow my intuition and if my intuition goes against the public then so be it. It doesn't matter if the whole world plays a particular bet the same way, if my intuition tells me otherwise then i'll follow and I regret it sometimes when I don't listen. An instance was the Napoli vs Juventus game and the Lecce vs AC Milan game. I was so certain Napoli would win Juventus for unknown reasons. I even said it on the Italian league thread. That's what my gut told me and I was convinced. Same goes to the the Milan game. I just had this gut feeling that Milan was not going to win that game. I don't do it based on the public opinion, I didn't bet against Milan because majority of the public bet on Milan its just a gut feeling. Regularities don't work "sometimes" they either exist or they don't. If the strategy is unprofitable in the long run, then it does not work at all. Experiments with consecutive bets on outsiders (with and without Martingale) have been carried out many times and as a result, the average loss of a better is always approximately equal to the average loss of a better who consistently bets on favorites. Thus, it can be stated that this strategy does not work. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Agbe on January 16, 2023, 09:03:44 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. Yes but not always, you know betting is a game of luck so your betting against the public or fading the public does not mean anything, but the day your luck shine you win and the day have bad luck the same thing (lose) will still occur. Yes this the first time I am seeing and hearing this term. well it is good method to fake the majority to win a game. when everyone think that they would win the bet and instead of you to join them and play the same lane with them, you bet the opposite, and when everyone is crying, you are laughing. For those who don't know about this strategy, you can read here to educate yourself. https://www.wsn.com/betting-guide/betting-against-public/ Also, this website is providing details about public bets, I'm not sure how accurate it is, but we can use this as a reference since I haven't found another one. You can also comment if you some reliable sites. https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/public-betting Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Kelvinid on January 17, 2023, 05:46:35 AM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. Yes but not always, you know betting is a game of luck so your betting against the public or fading the public does not mean anything, but the day your luck shine you win and the day have bad luck the same thing (lose) will still occur. Yes this the first time I am seeing and hearing this term. well it is good method to fake the majority to win a game. when everyone think that they would win the bet and instead of you to join them and play the same lane with them, you bet the opposite, and when everyone is crying, you are laughing. For those who don't know about this strategy, you can read here to educate yourself. https://www.wsn.com/betting-guide/betting-against-public/ Also, this website is providing details about public bets, I'm not sure how accurate it is, but we can use this as a reference since I haven't found another one. You can also comment if you some reliable sites. https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/public-betting It does mean anything if the game is rig or the sport itself. That betting against the public words was created because bookmakers are so smart, they will set up a line that is very attractive to the public while in reality it's overvalued, means the actual chance of hitting is low. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Reid on January 17, 2023, 07:11:35 AM Underdog? Was that it? The public most of the time goes for the favorite player or team so it's also like betting against them. Right?
I love doing that, I like the risk associated with it and the high profits that you can win which is often higher than multiplied by two. Then, if you can combine it with a parlay, the rewards will definitely more satisfying. It does work, for those who knows their game and lucky enough to predict the right underdog to win. Occasionally, I can find myself betting for the underdog without being emotionally inclined. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: carlisle1 on January 17, 2023, 07:58:43 AM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. Yes but not always, you know betting is a game of luck so your betting against the public or fading the public does not mean anything, but the day your luck shine you win and the day have bad luck the same thing (lose) will still occur. Yes this the first time I am seeing and hearing this term. well it is good method to fake the majority to win a game. when everyone think that they would win the bet and instead of you to join them and play the same lane with them, you bet the opposite, and when everyone is crying, you are laughing. For those who don't know about this strategy, you can read here to educate yourself. https://www.wsn.com/betting-guide/betting-against-public/ Also, this website is providing details about public bets, I'm not sure how accurate it is, but we can use this as a reference since I haven't found another one. You can also comment if you some reliable sites. https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/public-betting It does mean anything if the game is rig or the sport itself. That betting against the public words was created because bookmakers are so smart, they will set up a line that is very attractive to the public while in reality it's overvalued, means the actual chance of hitting is low. The very principle of gaining people/gambler's attention in terms of huge spread, most of the time those risk takers who can really afford to bet against the public/underdog are the one who enjoy the most if they win. If they lose, they will move forward just like it's a natural betting day, strategy that not most are good on, Different people got different overview and perceptions with how they will project the potential outcomes. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Pierre 2 on January 17, 2023, 08:49:55 AM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. Yes but not always, you know betting is a game of luck so your betting against the public or fading the public does not mean anything, but the day your luck shine you win and the day have bad luck the same thing (lose) will still occur. Yes this the first time I am seeing and hearing this term. well it is good method to fake the majority to win a game. when everyone think that they would win the bet and instead of you to join them and play the same lane with them, you bet the opposite, and when everyone is crying, you are laughing. For those who don't know about this strategy, you can read here to educate yourself. https://www.wsn.com/betting-guide/betting-against-public/ Also, this website is providing details about public bets, I'm not sure how accurate it is, but we can use this as a reference since I haven't found another one. You can also comment if you some reliable sites. https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/public-betting It does mean anything if the game is rig or the sport itself. That betting against the public words was created because bookmakers are so smart, they will set up a line that is very attractive to the public while in reality it's overvalued, means the actual chance of hitting is low. The very principle of gaining people/gambler's attention in terms of huge spread, most of the time those risk takers who can really afford to bet against the public/underdog are the one who enjoy the most if they win. If they lose, they will move forward just like it's a natural betting day, strategy that not most are good on, Different people got different overview and perceptions with how they will project the potential outcomes. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Jawhead999 on January 17, 2023, 09:11:05 AM In simple definition, betting against the public is betting on an underdog.
I think every gamblers already know the percentage between underdog pull an upset and the favorite win the match, of course the favorite player or team is high likely to win. Does betting on underdog is better? yes, if you're really know and familiar with the sport. You can just bet $2 on 5 underdogs, you're only need 2 of your bets are correct, you will make profit. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: AicecreaME on January 17, 2023, 11:31:22 AM In simple definition, betting against the public is betting on an underdog. I think every gamblers already know the percentage between underdog pull an upset and the favorite win the match, of course the favorite player or team is high likely to win. Does betting on underdog is better? yes, if you're really know and familiar with the sport. You can just bet $2 on 5 underdogs, you're only need 2 of your bets are correct, you will make profit. Well, there are times that betting on the underdog is a good choice most especially if you know the current information on how the training of a highly valued team/player is not doing well to make them win the game. If this is the case, then despite having higher odds predicted for the well-known team just because they have the reputation, there's a chance that you'll win the bet. After all, reputation shouldn't the only thing that a person should rely into the moment they decide to bet. Bettors have to consider the recent things the team/player do to improve their skills to get home the bacon. The hype and lack of information won't definitely help so you have to remind yourself that and be well-informed and aware so you won't place a bet on the wrong choice. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Plaguedeath on January 17, 2023, 11:35:06 AM Would you leave or forget about your insight and bet on Arsenal instead of betting for Chelsea which is the public's choice,? have you ever tried this and has it ever worked for you? Sometime, public's choice is biased and it doesn't good to follow their choice.This is what we are discussing. Example like you're live in UK and there's a football match between US vs UK, you have a betting group where mostly they're come from UK although US is the favorited team. Obviously, almost of people on that's betting group will saying UK will beat US because "bla bla bla" and they will deny anything if someone pointed out US has higher chance to win because US is an unbeatable team. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: inthelongrun on January 17, 2023, 12:20:39 PM I'd been thinking of it for a while now but I still haven't tried it. I think it is still 50/50 something. Yes, there are many casuals in many different sports but probably most bettors have good to decent knowledge of the games and sports they are into. And it is always expected that underdogs lose most of the time. But spreads and money lines are adjusted as well by the betting companies in order for them to remain profitable. So personally, I would not rely on any public random views as I have my own assessment of my bets as well.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: YOSHIE on January 17, 2023, 02:19:03 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. Actually the public betting strategy as you said, has been answered in the source you posted successful or not, in the form of sports betting, which reads.Quote The thinking behind this sports betting strategy starts with the fact that the public as a whole isn’t right all the time. If they were, a lot more people would be successful sports bettors. People who believe in betting against the public believe that the majority of bettors often get their predictions wrong. Furthermore, betting against the public requires the ability to see when the betting public is off-base. Example: A public bet was made by some of my friends on the 2022 world cup, between croatia vs. Morocco, where during and before the game Moroccan fans/supporters hope to win, opposite, facts after the Croatian match won 3rd place in the 2022 World Cup, and other examples France vs. Argentina, the Argentine people themselves are praying that they will lose the 2022 world cup due to several political reasons from Argentine officials, automatically French fans are bigger yesterday, facts on the field, public bets lose. For me if you want to make bets with various strategies, your own strategy is most likely to succeed. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Yatsan on January 17, 2023, 02:23:31 PM Betting against the majority? Gauge what you are trying to do. If it is just pride with the idea of not following the majority, then that would be a bad thing. Stick with the objective which is to win even if it would mean you have to follow the majority in some instances. So I think it does depend on the situation; if you are having no assurance of what path or bet to take, then you may follow the majority but if you have your own stand backed with your own reason, then go for it. Gambling is complicated; not because majority bet on first team you'd be required to do also. Always have time to think as much as possible whether following them would yield to a better outcome than following your own intuition.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Cling18 on January 17, 2023, 04:21:30 PM Betting against the majority? Gauge what you are trying to do. If it is just pride with the idea of not following the majority, then that would be a bad thing. Stick with the objective which is to win even if it would mean you have to follow the majority in some instances. So I think it does depend on the situation; if you are having no assurance of what path or bet to take, then you may follow the majority but if you have your own stand backed with your own reason, then go for it. Gambling is complicated; not because majority bet on first team you'd be required to do also. Always have time to think as much as possible whether following them would yield to a better outcome than following your own intuition. If you are just doing it for experimentation and testings, you better think twice. But if you are sure about your instict and you will base your decision on your own research regarding the entire game, then there's no problem with it because there are lots of cases wherein the choice of the majority doesn't win. It depends on the risks that you're willing to take and how well you have done your research about it. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: darkangel11 on January 17, 2023, 04:25:50 PM It's a good idea if you ask me but you have to be consistent with that to have any chance. If you start mixing it up and sometimes betting with and sometimes against the crowd, you're dropping the strategy and starting to bet the normal way, because most of us bet against the public from time to time. It's just that we need that gut feeling to do that. There are people who always bet against the majority and hope that even if they lose most of the time the payout will be higher than always betting at high odds. For this reason I tend to stay away from sure bets where 80% of people bet on one team. The payout is so small I don't want to take that risk. I prefer to bet when it's more like 50:50.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: QueenVera on January 17, 2023, 06:05:59 PM I personally don't think this strategy is a nice one because it might tend to impair the mentality of a person and it might also result to major losses because most times with this strategy, one isn't interested or should I say one isn't expectes to be nother about who's playing or what team is playing but rather this kind of strategy only wants to see a vast majority of the people cheering a particular team and then seize the opportunity to bet against the cheering team irrespective of who's playing and who they're playing against.
I also think this very strategy will only only help to build the morale of those who use it against doing things because others are doing it and it helps one to stay firm irrespective of what people think and this is the only obvious advantage of this strategy. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: maydna on January 17, 2023, 06:20:06 PM Betting against the majority? Gauge what you are trying to do. If it is just pride with the idea of not following the majority, then that would be a bad thing. Stick with the objective which is to win even if it would mean you have to follow the majority in some instances. So I think it does depend on the situation; if you are having no assurance of what path or bet to take, then you may follow the majority but if you have your own stand backed with your own reason, then go for it. Gambling is complicated; not because majority bet on first team you'd be required to do also. Always have time to think as much as possible whether following them would yield to a better outcome than following your own intuition. If you are just doing it for experimentation and testings, you better think twice. But if you are sure about your instict and you will base your decision on your own research regarding the entire game, then there's no problem with it because there are lots of cases wherein the choice of the majority doesn't win. It depends on the risks that you're willing to take and how well you have done your research about it. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: tabas on January 17, 2023, 06:34:56 PM If you are just doing it for experimentation and testings, you better think twice. But if you are sure about your instict and you will base your decision on your own research regarding the entire game, then there's no problem with it because there are lots of cases wherein the choice of the majority doesn't win. It depends on the risks that you're willing to take and how well you have done your research about it. It's okay if that's an experimentation or something like that. As long as the amount is affordable to lose, there's nothing to be worried of it. That's how gambling works, the other side might lose while you will win or you'll lose and the others choice might win. The normal thing in gambling works that way so if someone wants to go against the public choice or from the majority, that's essential for him if he sees that it could be a good time to take that risk and bet with the opposing side for which the odds could be that high and enticing to bet with. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Gozie51 on January 17, 2023, 06:55:14 PM It's a good idea if you ask me but you have to be consistent with that to have any chance. If you start mixing it up and sometimes betting with and sometimes against the crowd, you're dropping the strategy and starting to bet the normal way, because most of us bet against the public from time to time. I don't think there is a relationship between betting against the public and not betting against the public because it doesn't really affect the outcome of the game, it is just a strategy that you adopt for a particular bet. If you choose to bet against the crowd, it is a choice and it won't change the outcome of what will eventually happen if you don't. It's just we need that gut feeling to do that. There are people who always bet against the majority and hope that even if they lose most of the time the payout will be higher than always betting at high odds. For this reason I tend to stay away from sure bets where 80% of people bet on one team. The payout is so small I don't want to take that risk. I prefer to bet when it's more like 50:50. . Low odd games are those that the public usually go for. They look easy because it is between big clubs and small club where smaller teams are given bigger odds. I also prefer the big odd games, they increase chances of winning big but you have to analyse very well, not all big odds game have the potential for winning. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: KTChampions on January 17, 2023, 07:27:39 PM It's a good idea if you ask me but you have to be consistent with that to have any chance. If you start mixing it up and sometimes betting with and sometimes against the crowd, you're dropping the strategy and starting to bet the normal way, because most of us bet against the public from time to time. It's just that we need that gut feeling to do that. There are people who always bet against the majority and hope that even if they lose most of the time the payout will be higher than always betting at high odds. For this reason I tend to stay away from sure bets where 80% of people bet on one team. The payout is so small I don't want to take that risk. I prefer to bet when it's more like 50:50. The problem is that in games where the result is 50:50, bookmakers give odds like 1.8-2.0 or 1.9-1.9 I agree that when betting on such games, winnings are more frequent, so this is a pleasant betting, (on high odds, sometimes you have to wait a very long time to win and it's depressing.) But the fact that your winnings are consistently less than X2 quickly eats up the deposit and this trend becomes visible quite early too. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: TheGreatPython on January 17, 2023, 08:16:10 PM That can work if your analysis is way better compare to the public and you want to take the risk because the odds are better and there’s a higher chance for you to make profit. Public views and opinions are not accurate, that is also based on their own analysis which you can also do it as a bettor, betting against them can be more exciting though the risk will always be there since this is gambling. There are times that your analysis are also same with the public, with that I can consider betting with them. Betting against the general public does not necessarily lead to good results. Therefore, a gambler has to use his intelligence to analyze the judgment. I also can't say this strategy is bad at all because in today's games match fixing has become a business where a good team can lose to a weak team. Even with the wide spread of betting odds, the weaker teams can win there. But this strategy cannot be considered as a bad one. However, this technique will not be effective in all cases. A gambler has to make decisions based on situational considerations.Another one would be if there is a match-fixing going on. Sometimes this one is hard to spot on and can also relate to the first one that I said. Maybe the players will only act as if they are injured to make the match-fixing more successful. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: alegotardo on January 17, 2023, 08:22:13 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. For those who don't know about this strategy, you can read here to educate yourself. https://www.wsn.com/betting-guide/betting-against-public/ Also, this website is providing details about public bets, I'm not sure how accurate it is, but we can use this as a reference since I haven't found another one. You can also comment if you some reliable sites. https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/public-betting I don't think this is a good strategy. Because in sports games the result is usually predictable in most cases, and most bettors win. The big issue is that the most predictable bets (which is where the public bets) usually pay very little if you don't have the timing to bet at the exact moment. So, betting against the public can even be a good strategy, but only if you have good reason to believe that your bet actually has a chance of winning. Never make it a rule. Analyze each game, don't be influenced only by this "strategy". Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Wakate on January 17, 2023, 08:26:50 PM It's just we need that gut feeling to do that. There are people who always bet against the majority and hope that even if they lose most of the time the payout will be higher than always betting at high odds. For this reason I tend to stay away from sure bets where 80% of people bet on one team. The payout is so small I don't want to take that risk. I prefer to bet when it's more like 50:50. . This is mostly based on the game and the club that are playing, sometimes we do see that team with high odds do end up winning the match because they are always considered as the weak team that would lose the game. I don't based on predictions on odd but rather on what I think the two team could play and the numbers of goals that would comes out. Since many if the casinos I do use do have plenty option for gamblers to choose from without bothering on which team could win a particular match. Most people that do bet on the team to win a match usually end up losing severely because of the random output that could surface at the end of the match. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Darker45 on January 18, 2023, 12:04:47 AM This has never been my strategy, but I know that there are bettors out there who would like to go against the public in their bets. I know of somebody in my neighborhood who's like that. It's actually funny; we usually bet against each other here on eSports events and we normally end up betting against him because he has this penchant to bet on a team that the majority thinks would lose. In the end, however, sometimes we prove ourselves right, sometimes he proves us wrong. Still, I don't think this is a good strategy.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: kotajikikox on January 18, 2023, 01:49:12 AM I'd been thinking of it for a while now but I still haven't tried it. I think it is still 50/50 something. Yes, there are many casuals in many different sports but probably most bettors have good to decent knowledge of the games and sports they are into. And it is always expected that underdogs lose most of the time. But spreads and money lines are adjusted as well by the betting companies in order for them to remain profitable. So personally, I would not rely on any public random views as I have my own assessment of my bets as well. Public views are helpful but yes it is our money and not theirs so better to not trust them completely instead do your homework because in the end of the day? you will be the loser and not those public.actually I use this sometimes specially in local betting like street basketball and random sports , but in online or in national games? no i will use my own assessment and my own capabilities to try keeping safe my money and bets. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: ethereumhunter on January 18, 2023, 02:04:11 AM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. For those who don't know about this strategy, you can read here to educate yourself. https://www.wsn.com/betting-guide/betting-against-public/ Also, this website is providing details about public bets, I'm not sure how accurate it is, but we can use this as a reference since I haven't found another one. You can also comment if you some reliable sites. https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/public-betting I don't think this is a good strategy. Because in sports games the result is usually predictable in most cases, and most bettors win. The big issue is that the most predictable bets (which is where the public bets) usually pay very little if you don't have the timing to bet at the exact moment. So, betting against the public can even be a good strategy, but only if you have good reason to believe that your bet actually has a chance of winning. Never make it a rule. Analyze each game, don't be influenced only by this "strategy". Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: xSkylarx on January 18, 2023, 03:41:13 AM It's just  we need that gut feeling to do that. There are people who always bet against the majority and hope that even if they lose most of the time the payout will be higher than always betting at high odds. For this reason I tend to stay away from sure bets where 80% of people bet on one team. The payout is so small I don't want to take that risk. I prefer to bet when it's more like 50:50. . This is mostly based on the game and the club that are playing, sometimes we do see that team with high odds do end up winning the match because they are always considered as the weak team that would lose the game. I don't based on predictions on odd but rather on what I think the two team could play and the numbers of goals that would comes out. Since many if the casinos I do use do have plenty option for gamblers to choose from without bothering on which team could win a particular match. Most people that do bet on the team to win a match usually end up losing severely because of the random output that could surface at the end of the match. But you will win a small profit on it if you bet not against the public unless you bet on a weaker team and you won that is more profit. That is really how it works and also what I've noticed in sports betting not sure of others but unless you are betting with your friends then you can easily double your money. Whether you win or lose and even if how you are confident in a game you bet on the winning team there is really time that you will lose as this is gambling and it has a huge chance of losing. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: LogitechMouse on January 18, 2023, 06:40:29 AM I don't know if "betting on a team with a higher odds" in sports betting can be considered as "betting against the public" because I tried betting against what the others are thinking to win in a basketball game (NBA in particular).
Tried it many times, and I don't recommend doing it even though the odds are very attractive. There are times that you will win sure, but most of the time, I end up losing my money because of betting against what others are thinking to win. I will change my strategy when I'm betting in sports games and I will not recommend using this "betting against the public" strategy. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: samcoin on January 18, 2023, 11:11:05 AM This strategy could work in basketball more than football as there are only two probabilities in the money line, while in Football there are three, Once you bet on the underdog team to win, you should consider that a draw could happen. it might work in football for the (draw no bet) market, but I didn't try it. In competitive leagues like the EPL, possibilities of unexpected results are always available, every round we watch one or two of them, but the odds couldn't help if one decided to take the underdog side in all matches, as they would end up as a loser. I think in basketball odds could be much higher as there are only two results.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Fredomago on January 18, 2023, 11:19:55 AM I don't know if "betting on a team with a higher odds" in sports betting can be considered as "betting against the public" because I tried betting against what the others are thinking to win in a basketball game (NBA in particular). Timing is important and like you most of us here manage to try betting against the public then win but most of the time it ends up losing, this kind of strategy is not for those who are not ready losing their money, if you are just playing to try your luck and you are okay in moving on whatever the outcome of your bet, this might work for you.Tried it many times, and I don't recommend doing it even though the odds are very attractive. There are times that you will win sure, but most of the time, I end up losing my money because of betting against what others are thinking to win. I will change my strategy when I'm betting in sports games and I will not recommend using this "betting against the public" strategy. Win or lose, you can move forward and forget about the money you lose, but if you don't have that attitude, it can trigger aggressions and might push you to lose more while trying to find that luck to give you a huge win. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Bushdark on January 18, 2023, 12:24:03 PM Only in-depth analysis can yield results whether we have to bet against the public or follow the public because without doing that, we will only be confused about what to choose. And people who don't have the time and ability to analyze matches will usually choose to follow the public because they think that's the easiest thing to do and don't need to analyze. And that strategy will only work if many people say the match will go as they predicted so that the public follows suit. I don't think our analysis hhas anything to do with whether we are betting against the house or not.Many gambling platforms knows how to set there system to analyze our bets or our possible in a way that they are going to make profits even though the numbers of winners is high. If you take a look at sport bets especially for football, many gamblers always bet on a particular team to win or lose which can incur a huge profits for the casino even though there are gamblers that made some huge winnings. That alone will not stop the casino from making profits from our bets. It is crystal clear for casinos to keep making profits from us the gamblers Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: btc_angela on January 18, 2023, 01:04:53 PM Only in-depth analysis can yield results whether we have to bet against the public or follow the public because without doing that, we will only be confused about what to choose. And people who don't have the time and ability to analyze matches will usually choose to follow the public because they think that's the easiest thing to do and don't need to analyze. And that strategy will only work if many people say the match will go as they predicted so that the public follows suit. I don't think our analysis hhas anything to do with whether we are betting against the house or not.Many gambling platforms knows how to set there system to analyze our bets or our possible in a way that they are going to make profits even though the numbers of winners is high. Of course, that's there job and most of the time the odds are so accurate that it's either to will have to win or others will lose big amounts on them. And maybe this strategy takes into shape because the casino knows how to set the odds majority of the time that some of us thinks it's better to go against them and bet against the public. If you take a look at sport bets especially for football, many gamblers always bet on a particular team to win or lose which can incur a huge profits for the casino even though there are gamblers that made some huge winnings. That alone will not stop the casino from making profits from our bets. It is crystal clear for casinos to keep making profits from us the gamblers Again, it boils down to business, they have the house edge and eventually they will make money out of us in the long run. That is math and they will remain like that, keep making money out of us heavy gamblers. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Peanutswar on January 18, 2023, 02:18:59 PM They said most of us lose in sports betting, and since most of us would usually pick the public play, then I guess that strategy is working. The question now is how to determine the public play, and you also need to have a high discipline because not all public play will lose, it's just most of the public play will fail, so slowly but surely, you might be profitable. I checked the website, not sure how they got that percentage of public bets since you need to subscribe if you will click that "lock" sign. People on sports betting always checking the odds before making a bet some of them make a last-minute position with their bets just to get easily know if there's a manipulation with the odds and tons of people doing this base on my experience in actively betting in sports, and of course this is sports anything can happen by just a single mistake that can make a table turns. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Solosanz on January 18, 2023, 02:25:09 PM People on sports betting always checking the odds before making a bet some of them make a last-minute position with their bets just to get easily know if there's a manipulation with the odds and tons of people doing this base on my experience in actively betting in sports, and of course this is sports anything can happen by just a single mistake that can make a table turns. I don't think odds manipulation is possible in trusted and popular casino, odds swing is usually happen and it's legal as long as there's huge bettors bet on the underdog. I've seen few case where the casino voided everyone bets because there's an error with the odds calculation, because it's exceed from the normal. It's higher than 100%, so it make the bookie will lose since the gamblers will make more money. However it's legal because the casino already stated in their terms of service.Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: AbuBhakar on January 18, 2023, 02:38:22 PM This strategy could work in basketball more than football as there are only two probabilities in the money line, while in Football there are three, Once you bet on the underdog team to win, you should consider that a draw could happen. it might work in football for the (draw no bet) market, but I didn't try it. In competitive leagues like the EPL, possibilities of unexpected results are always available, every round we watch one or two of them, but the odds couldn't help if one decided to take the underdog side in all matches, as they would end up as a loser. I think in basketball odds could be much higher as there are only two results. As already stated in the description of this strategy in the attached link. This betting against the public only works on bet options that have 2 outcomes like Moneyline, points spread and so on. Even so, it's very hard to win on this strategy since you are always relying on an underdog to win or on the lowest possible outcome. Doing this bet will surely put you at a lot of risk and it will be dangerous if you didn't know how to handle risk properly. Betting on 1.8 to 1.9 odds is much better since it's a fair odds for a close match. Anything unusual odds such as above or lower is not good for me as a normal bettor on sportsbook. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Plaguedeath on January 18, 2023, 02:46:47 PM Betting on 1.8 to 1.9 odds is much better since it's a fair odds for a close match. Anything unusual odds such as above or lower is not good for me as a normal bettor on sportsbook. I prefer to bet on higher odds like 2.00-4.00 odds in my familiar sport, usually when the both team or fighter have same odds 1.8 or 1.9, it's really 50/50 and risky to bet since we can't speculate which one will win. The reward isn't really high too, so I wouldn't really that happy even my bet is correct. While betting on underdog you're only need to bet for small amount and you have a chance to win higher amount.Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: rahmad2nd on January 18, 2023, 04:05:14 PM ~snip~ I don't think this is a good strategy. Because in sports games the result is usually predictable in most cases, and most bettors win. The big issue is that the most predictable bets (which is where the public bets) usually pay very little if you don't have the timing to bet at the exact moment. So, betting against the public can even be a good strategy, but only if you have good reason to believe that your bet actually has a chance of winning. Never make it a rule. Analyze each game, don't be influenced only by this "strategy". Even then, in the end the result will be determined after the bet is over. However, as you said. and I totally agree with what you said. to determine a sports bet, in-depth analysis is needed to minimize the chances of losing. I think, whether it's a bet against the public or any strategy and method it all depends on who is going to fight and who is the opponent and what are we going to bet. after all, bookies provide many betting options. Even so as you say, it will really need in-depth analysis to determine which one to choose. in fact, every analysis or prediction that we do often results are not what we expect. in certain cases, especially football. based on statistics, stronger teams will be in demand by the betting public. but regarding the result, we will find out when the fight is over. In conclusion, whatever the strategy is, everything is aimed at getting a win from the betting session. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Casdinyard on January 18, 2023, 06:29:09 PM As the cornerstone of this betting strategy lies within the notion that most superfans tend to be uninformed and are therefore betting only for the sake of supporting their teams, I think this will work. Especially for national games wherein little to no amount of research between players and teams are involved, thus ensuring that indeed little to no reliable information is being passed around amongst these fans. However, I don't see this working internationally, for sports that involve multiple countries pitting against each other like the World Cup, because the teams are made up of the best players, and there's no singular crowd that really defines who's the veteran and who's the underdog team.
Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Sanitough on January 18, 2023, 08:40:13 PM Betting against the majority? Gauge what you are trying to do. If it is just pride with the idea of not following the majority, then that would be a bad thing. Stick with the objective which is to win even if it would mean you have to follow the majority in some instances. So I think it does depend on the situation; if you are having no assurance of what path or bet to take, then you may follow the majority but if you have your own stand backed with your own reason, then go for it. Gambling is complicated; not because majority bet on first team you'd be required to do also. Always have time to think as much as possible whether following them would yield to a better outcome than following your own intuition. There’s no wrong actually if you bet by following the majority especially if you have the same analysis with them, so you have to go along with them. However, if you think that betting against the public will be more profitable because there are better odds and you see higher chances of winning, then why not? After all, we don’t gamble to follow the norms, but definitely to entertain us and that will be a bonus already if we get lucky and won some bets.Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Finestream on January 18, 2023, 08:52:16 PM I heard this strategy working but I like to know based on your experience if this is working. Betting against the favorite or against the crowd is likely a luck base scenario but for me I rarely win in this kind of bets. I think the author covers a lot of information in this article and it's worth a read on how betting against the public will work but I think proper risk management could be a back up in here and not go all in most of the time.Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Accardo on January 18, 2023, 08:54:36 PM Gamblers constantly try to follow new stretegy for batting to win. Not all the strategies will work. Many strategies work once or twice, but later it does not work. However, no matter how good the strategy, it will not work too long. The strategy that the OP has talked about can be effective. But not for all the time. In applying this technique, it is necessary to keep the risk of taking a threat. You have to think adversely when the team is in good condition. On the other hand, it is very difficult to support the opposite team in a match that is adversely but you have to obey. Strategy and luck both are needed to win in any betting. The worst aspect of gambling is thinking that people know what they are doing and trusting that casino writers know much about gambling. These strategies keep people away from becoming better gamblers and most gamblers would stick to such strategy till they get old in gambling without figuring out what actually works in gambling. The moment one starts seeing gambling differently other than a means of making money they'll advance quickly in the niche and stay away from strategies that won't work. Title: Re: betting against the Public, is this strategy working? Post by: Johnyz on January 18, 2023, 09:14:28 PM There’s no wrong actually if you bet by following the majority especially if you have the same analysis with them, so you have to go along with them. However, if you think that betting against the public will be more profitable because there are better odds and you see higher chances of winning, then why not? After all, we don’t gamble to follow the norms, but definitely to entertain us and that will be a bonus already if we get lucky and won some bets. That’s true, we should not always follow the crowd in betting we should have our own analysis and be more confident about it, there are gamblers who loves to bet against the odds simply because it is the result of their analysis. Going against the public might be a risk though since we all know they are the majority, so when it doubt try to analyze again and see if there will be changes, make no pressure on your betting activities. |