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Hi friends, I am still on the matter of helping a friend who wants to build his own gambling project, the question of the day is about KYC verification, why are popular crypto gambling platforms are not KYC verified themselves? I mean the team behind the online casino why are they not KYC verified and they ask for KYC instead?

Wouldn't it be more fair if they want to stay behind the veil and not as users KYC verification? If they are scared of the law/regulations it makes sense the are verified too, doxxed or something .

Anyway fast forward to my second question, will a gambling platform be more attractive for users if the team are 100% doxxed?

Popular crypto gambling platforms may not be KYC-verified themselves for a few reasons.

One reason could be that they want to provide a higher level of anonymity for their users.
Another reason could be that the regulations around cryptocurrency gambling can vary depending on the jurisdiction, and some countries may have stricter laws that make it difficult for the platforms to obtain KYC verification.

Whether or not a gambling platform would be more attractive to users if the team were 100% doxxed is a matter of perspective. Some users may prefer a platform where the team is transparent and can be held accountable for their actions, while others may prefer a platform that offers a higher level of anonymity.

Ultimately, the success of a gambling platform will depend on a variety of factors, including the user experience, the available games and features, and the platform's reputation.

It's important to consider the legal and regulatory aspects when it comes to a gambling platform, as it can have severe consequences if the platform is not compliant with the laws and regulations.

It's also important to note that, regardless of the level of transparency, the platform should always ensure the security of the user's personal information and the platform's operations.

Hope, I answered well.

It's the question you need to ask who are providing license to them. May be they are KYC verified. There is also the fact of trust too. Normally popular Casinos have already built their trust in the industry, they are paying gamblers for years so no one question the team behind them.

It surely will be but when you are in crypto it's not always a good idea to public your identity. Crypto is not still officially legal to many country. Law will change and it will effect you. That's the risk.

First, identity verification is usually required when indications of fraud or casino policy violations are found

As a user, the identity of the actor behind the online casino is not too important. On the other hand, the user's identity is important enough for them (the team) to help verify violations commit by users

So I conclude need a reason to request identity verification action or kyc. And what is the reason for the team verifying its identity to the user.

Do you want the documents of the online casino team to be open to everyone? But this violates all permissible norms, they must be open to licensing and supervision authorities if they want to act legally and in accordance with the law, so they also carry out a kind of KYC procedure, if you can call the documents for obtaining a license that way.

it's more or less the same thing (with o without KYC) because even if team is doxxed what changes in practice?
filing a lawsuit with a foreign country can cost a very high amount and very often have uncertain if not completely negative results (not to mention the loss of time).

It may inspire a certain degree of security (it allows you to know the track record) it is not a guarantee for players ;)

e.g. in collectibles section an user already doxxed has made a scam some days ago but it's really hard sue him on court and even if was doxxed this doesn't changed pretty anything... money are gone the same :(

Every casino definitely has a plan behind it for the running of a casino and what developments will be carried out.
Maybe there are some things that the team did but not published to the gamblers or casino users.
It would be better and better if we believed in and obeyed the policies or regulations that have been made by the casino even though we did not know the intent and purpose of these policies, it was clear that the casino made them to guarantee the comfort and goodness of every user in it, even though it had to ask for a KYC.

I think that all casinos that have a license when they are going to ask for a license are obliged to do KYC in curacao, but the problem with that is that it is possible that the person who does the kyc in curacao is a representative of the casino or even an unimportant person who can be used by the casino, so it's not something that 100% sure the casino owners are going through KYC when dealing with license in curacao, I could be wrong in my thinking because I don't know about all procedure to get license in curacao


with all certainty yes, all people feel more secure when they know the owners of the companies in which they use their services, this is something indisputable. but unfortunately this should not be expected to happen to all online casinos

It will be attractive but it will put the reputation of the casino at-risk people can easily tell if the owner is capable of maintaining a casino that can pay out millions if you find out that an average person is one of the owners they will suspect that the owners can keep up, it's always been this way and casinos can continue to operate with only the license and their reputation to back them up, of course, we want to see who are the owners of the casinos we are playing but their interest comes first before ours.

Like what others have said, teams/owners of licensed casinos are verified.

When we're talking about unlicensed casinos, this could be significant to some. I just find it ironic for them to reveal their identities to the public when they do not ask KYC from customers. For new casinos, provably fair verified + RNG certificate (or test it yourself) could be enough to start building their reputation and be among the most trusted.

Because casinos are typically under a business company that is mainly involved in the casino industry. You can track the details of the owner if you check the owner listed under their gambling license which is available to the public. License is what matter the most to trust the casino since license company does the KYC themselves to the casino owner when they apply for their license.

It will be a disadvantage but it's not really necessary due to the existence of casino licenses. In fact, nothing will change if we knew the owner or not since people can't contact them directly in case a problem occurred because the support will be the one that will handle all the casino issues. Also casinos with licenses rarely turn into complete scams based on my long experienced in gambling.

It's the "name" of the company that's KYC'ed imo , not the team behind it. They register under a government and I reckon said government reviews documents that they passed and basically allows the casino to exist after checking whether there's some bad rep or not in the casino. They are scared, trust me, and that's why they do KYC. Otherwise they would've just let them fuck off and not do KYC since they for sure know that their users hate KYC themselves.

I didn't think about that. Perhaps the team behind the online casino has done KYC to the regulators by sending them the documents and has stated that they have not committed any criminal acts or anything against the law. Perhaps, that's one of the reasons why casinos ask their users to do KYC so they can report to the regulators that their users are really not doing illegal activities.

But the truth is we won't know whether the team from the casino is also doing KYC or if they are behind the veil with their anonymity and not disclosing it to the public. We only play gambling like other people and can also choose to play at any casino we want because there must be casinos that allow us not to do KYC.

Is easy to trust casino owners who are doxxed, you know who you will run after, who you will call out, and who will they charge in court in case you've been scammed, and the casino operators know all these so they prefer to be anonymous, and because the regulators are allowing them to be anonymous, if only all license issuer will impose on their terms that they put an about the team page on all the casinos they supervise, casino operators will be obliged to do so.

KYC is for company's interest not by force to do it but if a casino company is not yet license also they don't have the right to ask for KYC from its customers or gamblers. Then coming to your question, frankly speaking, the casino platform will not be attracted to the gamblers if really 100% of doxxed is used because most players or gamblers need to be anonymity. And once a gambler sees his personal information in a public place he will be very much angry and he will inform his friends about the site and they might not like to gamble in that platform. But that is also depend on the kind of games you have in the casino if they attracted to gamblers. Attraction to  casino platform is all about the games found in the site and the behaviors of the casino management team.

If you treat casinos like any other businesses, there's no rule that the ownership, staff, etc., must be public IMO. For example, you normally don't get to know who is the owner of your regular supermarket, coffee shop, bar, etc. Meanwhile, these places can KYC you if you buy a can of beer, cigarette, and stuff.

Therefore I think a license is more valuable and strong compared to the team's KYC ID. It's like your favorite restaurant has all the required licenses and passed the inspections. You'll have more peace of mind eating in that restaurant compared to Señor Carlos food truck.

The problem is, of course, not all license is equal.

  - First of all, every gambling platform has rules and policy agreements, we as gamblers in a casino are free to choose if we agree or disagree with the policy or trend that a casino has. Now, if we accept this, then in the end we will also be against the number one we cheated ourselves.

Besides, when it comes to the team being doxxed? who is the happy gambler with a normal mind that when the team is in an unethical or illegal method he will side with it? Of course, the answer is, it will not be attractive to gamblers or players in the gambling industry.

A casino owner will be putting himself at risk if he adds his name to the casino website with all his details. You'll have to be considerate of that just as you don't want to submit KYC documents but the casino has no choice but to ask users for KYC because they are regulated by the government and they have to comply.

Their information might not be available to the public because of security and other hazard reasons but I think they are required to submit their KYC in getting a license to operate a casino. This means they performed KYC but it isn't for public eyes. I see no attractiveness on a doxxed casino team, Even if I were to able to choose to the casino I regularly play over the doxxed casino, I would certainly choose the casino I regularly play because of the certain trust I gave to them. I believe that being doxxed is only effective on investments since a start up project doesn't have that much to show off on in making their potential clients trust them aside from giving them their own identity.

There is nothing wrong in you helping a friend to build his or her own gambling project. As a matter of fact, you have down well to this extent of making enquiries here and receiving response from high ranked members onboard this platform but that is not enough though because saying it would not be enough. Your friend i believe has a prototype of want he or she wants the casino to look like and the features too. It would be nice the team starts doing their work and making it presence known here by creating an announcement thread formally introducing the casino so that participants can do a review then you and your friend can proceed with updating or upgrading the casino to the required level it ought to be based on the review results.



Wether the team is kyc verified or not it does not really matter though but service delivery is what matters most. If you drive satisfaction from their services without any complaint, why need  wanting to know who they are.  Do not forget that casinos do obtain license and before such would be done, the team is already known so I believe the government issuing license to the casino already know who they are so that should not be what customers should be bothered about because if anything goes wrong, they would be fished out.


That should not be an issue though but it will also be an advantage to the casino because if they do that they may likely get more participants as people see that as a sign of transparency and accountability and another is, if any of the team member has been involved in a successful project before which is well known, that person would stand the chance of getting more participants to the casino.

You have a point, but we are talking about online and it happens to be a casino where people are putting money, and some gamblers are complaining about getting scammed, by getting the online operators doxxed, they know who to deal with and who they will be posted as scammers and this will harm the reputation of the owners, so far no casino operators undergo KYC to prove that they are the owners and responsible for its operations and actions, and the gambling industry and community are ok with it.

I think as long as the casino itself is licensed correctly, you can be sure that the business is legitimate. A KYC of the team itself is less dependable in my eyes than a government approval. And you have to ask yourself who is doing the KYC procedure in the first place and how legit they are. So, KYC is BS.

So if you are worried about that kind of "proof" in order to ensure that the casino you choose is not a scam, then a license, which is government approved and publically verifiable would be a better proof than a "doxx" of members who may or may not be real or not (they may be real people with fake ID and forged government papers in order to hide their real identity.)

Like I said earlier, it is not necessary that the casino team must be kyc for all to know who they are. Getting license alone is enough to know that they are legit because only government approved agencies issues license and before that is done, the details of the ownership of the casino is already taken which means that the casino is already kyc and that is enough to go with in confirming that this team or the casino  is legit.  Before a license is issued out by government, verification exercise must have been conducted on the people coming for it. So there is no way government would issue license without knowing whom they are issuing it to and what the license is issued for.




Getting a government approval speaks of great volume than mere kyc which might likely be shabby and turns out to be a scam by which the team are issuing fake kyc just to deceive people on getting them to register on their platform. These are the traps unsuspecting participants fall into and loose their lard earned resources.

I would prefer a government license for verification since it is verifiable by all than the team giving me a doxx kyc claiming to be genuine kyc.  do not by into that.

As a business online Casino should make it subject to KYC regulations because it's about the customer's money. So that customers can reduce the level of fraud on the casino platform and also try to build customer trust in Online Casino services. Because it is important, there are many issues of corporate fraud that do not have a license.

Actually Making KYC good for Online Casinos is, in fact, increasingly important for casinos to integrate to stay ahead.

The crotch can be seen here https://withpersona.com/blog/the-importance-of-kyc-for-online-gambling

Making online casino ownership  subject to kyc is not the issue and if I may ask what if the kyc turns out to be fake what would you do? Would it not be better you going for a government licensed casino registered and known under a legal jurisdiction than just mere online kyc which you are not sure if the ownership are hiding under pretence to get members registered on their platform and after a while they do away with their customers funds. So which so you prefer?


One of the things I do check for casinos online these days is the Government issued license to operate within her jurisdiction. That alone can grant me proper verification on that casino to know how legit it is because the Government would not want her citizens or foreign citizens  to get defrauded by fraudsters online claiming to be a legit platform so they would definitely reply you if you do write them to verify anything they issued a license to operate within their jurisdiction.

To be 100% doxxed isn't good for anyone, but it is good for the business when the team shows their real face. I mean they don't have to be doxxed, that could be a risk for them if some sensitive information like their phone or their address is exposed, but if they provide their real name and a photo that would be enough to get the users' trust.

Personally, from my experience, several casinos don't just ask users to submit kyc documents, it is the users action that triggers the kyc system..
For example, it's either the user is suspected to be carrying out some illegal activities, like trying to cheat the casino, or maybe the gambler is withdrawing an amount of money, which the casino, under regulatory order, is required to know the gambler, in order to avoid money laundry.

On the order hand, I don't think it's necessary for casino owners to make their identity public, though this casino make the casino gain some quick trust from the gambling community, but doing this could turn out to be a bad idea in the long run considering the fact that crypto regulations and way of taxing is not clear yet most especially..

I think the team are known through their licensing and that in itself is enough KYC, before a casino license is approved, there are certain documents and criteria that the team and operators will provide to the authority and those documents contain all the information that is enough for knowing your customer (KYC).
So casino teams are KYC oriented bit just that their own KYC may differ from that of an ordinary players who want to register on the casino to play a few games

It will probably help since this sounds more like a marketing stunt to me. You have to ask if it is worth risking the security of the owners in revealing their identity over the "fairness on KYC". I'm thinking of a $5 wrench attack if a gambler is near the area of the owner.

$5 wrench attack on the casino owner? For what? It's not like they're walking around with the casino's entire bankroll in their pocket. And let's be real, all physical business owners handling large sums of cash are in the same boat.

I suppose a small amount of gamblers will care, but this detail does not appear to be critical, what gamblers care about the most are fast withdrawals, a good reputation, a lax attitude when it comes to asking for your personal information, constant bonuses and a fast customer support.

And while there are other aspects which are important those five are the most critical, everything else while important will not change the decision of a gambler to create an account at a casino, and I imagine the owners of the casino being open about who they are is not an important detail in the mind of most gamblers.

It will affects the likes of Vitalik Buterin, and others that come out to the public like Cardano CEO for example? Or that's because these projects are Centralised projects?

Can a crypto gambling project be centralized? If a crypto gambling team decides to remain anonymous then why are they requesting KYC from their users? They understand what anonymity means and users wish to remain anonymity as well. They remain anonymous only yo collect users KYC details. Well thank you all for opinions.

I think only casino owners have to KYC with regulators because casino owners are responsible for their own casinos. And if something bad happens, say someone is carrying out illegal activities in the casino, the casino owner will be summoned and held accountable for why this happened. For other casino teams, I don't think they need to verify because they are not the owners but the regulator can also ask all members of the casino to do KYC. It depends on the regulator's policy to implement KYC for everyone behind the casino.

What makes a casino famous, has a good reputation and is recommended by many gamblers is that they can serve gamblers who gamble at their place so that the casino can get lots of gamblers who play gambling. This is because the casino can provide the best service for its members, which cannot be provided by a casino that only thinks about profits.

To have KYC or not for a gambling casino owner its the same things since they still don't have trust score to look forward with since if they scam people they provably do it even if there identity is totally expose. Its just casino owners need to prove that they are running good business by providing quality platform to people who want to test out their casino and then a attentive personal who can help them out to their questions and issues then here they can slowly earn some good reputation to the consumers.

Not everyone feel safe to talk about crypto in public. It's a choice they make, most of us on the forum made the choice. Others should be respectful to it.
 

They are not asking you to gamble with them. You are going there by your choice. You have options to avoid them.

Interesting but If it's only the name of the company then that means the members of that company can still run away if they have done something inappropriate but there are really a crypto project who has a doxxed team however this doesn't removed the fact that they can't turned bad anymore. We already have many cases about it. What happened with do kwoon and SBF are a few of it. Not all customers hate KYC and that is why there are still platforms who take the risk and require a KYC.

This is better than if their company won't look legal to the governments. So those who hate KYC and only plays on a non-KYC casino should be wary of that because the platform can be shut down at anytime if ever they are spotted by the governments.

All owners and partners do KYC, just not to you or any of their clients. They do it to the government agencies that register the business and give it a license to operate.


In some countries it is a rule. Not all staff has to do KYC, but in the EU, the owner of the business has to register in a public ledger that requires their full name, date of birth, name and location of the business and assigned identification number. You can't have a business without providing this information.

What OP would like to se is all the personal information made public and to be honest if you run a big operation it's almost impossible to hide. You can google the names of owners of the biggest casinos like Stake. It's a problem with smaller, newer casinos, but if that's important to you just use the ones you're comfortable with.

Indeed, a doxxed team doesn't guarantee that they won't do anything to screw up their investors or players.
There are so many projects with known identities of their dev teams, and yet, they still manage to abandon or closed down the project.
I don't think it can help a new gambling platform in gaining their players, because it is thru time how they will earn credibility from the community.
Their reputation that they built throughout the years, will be the main reason why a certain casino/bookie will survive in this business.

As far as I know you need to do KYC when you need the license for the casino. So with the licensed casino at least you know that you can file a complain against them to the license provider. It's up to the license provider how they judge the merit of the competence. Most of the time they don't care about hearing clients because the casino is important for them not the clients. After all the the casino is giving them the money they need.

The most legit and profitable business with most transparency today can bankrupt tomorrow. When you are letting others to handle your cash it's not yours until you have it in your wallet.

It would probably help with trust but it also comes with a security risk. But i am skeptical that revealing just CEO from a big team would help. Especially when that ceo could be totally made up with a made up history and linkedin. And established gambling platforms have zero reasons to do any of that. On the other hand they are required by law to KYC their users. So i don't see it as anything to do with being fair. They are being fair as long as they follow the rules and regulations.

It would require a large set of cahoona's and a hell of a lot of confidence to open publicly deem yourself as a founder of a casino or gambling platform. Especially with the known fact that there are angry losers out there. 

It is not even necessary if you ask me, a founder of a casino doxxing himself or better put, announcing himself as a founder/owner of a casino would be him taking too much risk, normally, this act will probably make gamblers to trust his casino more and having a huge user based even without much marketing won't be too much of a problem, but then, on the other hand, like you rightly said, there are alot of angry losers out there who would go to any extent and length to either get their money back or revenge their loss on the founder of the casino, I believe this one of the major reasons why casinos owners remain anonymous, which is very understandable if I'm asked.

Most of the casinos does not have kyc because they are hidden and any casino platform that I have kyc verification the one that is well-known so when you check across and we have 400 casino platform out of the hundred percent of casino it is only 50 or 45% that have kyc verification and that is being supported by government and always have a licence to operate through the government so that is why many of them are hidden so that they will not be known and the many of them are scum platform of casino also

You never know what people desperate for money thinks. Have you not heard or read anything about those people attacked because they own some crypo? They are not even rich or own a significant amount. It may not be a $5 wrench attack against these casino owners but the danger remains when their personal info is known.

I can speak for myself, I'm not sure if my pov is common or not. I feel more safe when a gambling website is registered with a gambling authority (no matter where in the world). Just gives me that extra feeling of security. I'm not really interested who runs/maintains the casino and their identity. But that's just me of course.

Same here. I'm not interested to the people behind the casino as long as they're operating with license. Of course it's not a guarantee that the casino is not scam but as a gambler we're not trusting easily right? Hence, it takes time for us to trust if they already establish their reputation just like the old casinos did.

Anyway, transparency of operators might help their platform but I don't think they will expose their identity for their sake of their business because of the risk. That's why they have their own rules and conditions for their customers. So if you don't like how they run their platform then you're free to leave.

I would personally feel okey enough if the casino is properly registered and manages to build a good reputation from the ground up. Perhaps, if the person behind the casino was a public figure like Vitalik Buterin, for example, it would make sense to make it known, since the reputation of that person may attract gamblers.
Isn't that kind of thing of doxxed teams more common in altcoins projects rather than serious casinos?

I remember it used to be a thing to invest in a coin whose team identity was of public knowledge.

The team behind the online casino did not need to show the public that they did KYC.
And I'm not really interested in knowing who's behind the casino, either.
The most important thing for me is that the casino has a good reputation, is trusted, can serve all its members well, and always provides attractive bonuses.
Gamblers will also think like that because they are only interested in everything I mentioned earlier so they won't think much about who the team is behind the casino.

Even if we like owners to doxxed themselves for the sake of reputation, that will put the casino at risk because gamblers even if they lose fairly will still complaints, we have reports of gamblers losing fairly but still filing a scam accusations and posting hate remarks it will not only harm the owners but their family and their associate as well.
Casinos with doxxed owners will eventually close the casino if they attack their families and those close to them, casinos are one of the platforms where the owners need not be doxxed to gain a reputation, its enough that they do their best to maintain their reputation by treating their players fairly.

That's an interesting question.
Imagine if all crypto casino owners and dev teams were required to identify themselves publicly. I'm sure that 99% of them would leave the gambling business or try to bypass the ID verification by submitting false IDs.
Will a crypto casino look more trusted if the dev team/owner are doxxed? Maybe yes, but that won't stop them from finding legal ways to scam the users and to not pay their profits. There are multiple excuses for refusing withdrawals "because of suspicious activity" or "breaking the Terms of Service" and all that stuff. In summary, I don't think that doxxing the casino dev teams/owners would solve all problems inside the crypto gambling industry.

Maybe that will be the outcome but most of the businessman running a business online know the risk so mostly they only set a social media account which is visible to all for their selves with no link with their relatives. So even if they provide their KYC still everything will be fine on their end so business as usual for them what's for us now is we should also ignore about this since scammer will always do scam even if they expose theirselves or not. What's more important is casino reputation and this will always tell all what we need.

No crypto casino owners want to show their identity in public because it will be a matter of security for them when they are in public. It's not easy for them when they walk in public spaces, and many people will recognize them as crypto casino owners. Maybe they should hire a lot of bodyguards to protect them.

But suppose they want to establish a legal business related to gambling. In that case, they will be asked to do KYC so that the government can know that the business will not carry out illegal activities. Maybe the identity of a casino owner can give confidence to the public, especially gamblers, but it seems gamblers don't pay too much attention to this problem. They just play gambling in the casino without wanting to know who owns the casino, and as long as they can enjoy the casino, they will continue to play.

I agree with your statement.
as a gambler actually only needs the trust built by the casino. gamblers will never care who is behind the casinos and what they look like. but gamblers only need great trust that all gamblers can hold and make them comfortable when betting at the casino.
it is also not important to me to know who owns the casino because all that matters is the reputation of trust that can be held.

They also need to register with their full name and address for tax purposes, even if they avoid the license. Some people run a gambling operation without a license, posing as something else, like a raffle company that doesn't need a license, or a software company. Alameda was a trading company registered as a blockchain research company.

Anyway, even without a license you have to be registered for tax compliance. You can avoid government agencies like the ones that oversee gambling or trading but you can't avoid the tax man. Once you have income they will require you to give some information about the business you're running.

The way fraudulent operators avoid it is by using homeless people to register the business. These people have nothing so they have nothing to lose.

I don't know. I still believe that transparency and accountability are important principles for any business, and hiding behind anonymity can breed mistrust and suspicion. While it's true that there is always a potential for danger when personal information is known, the fact is that these types of attacks and threats are relatively rare. And I still disagree that the owners of cryptocurrency casinos would be in any more danger than the owners of traditional casinos and other physical businesses. And besides, we have laws and police to protect them, it's not like we live in the wild west.

I can appreciate your worries over the anonymity of the team behind crypto-gambling sites and the need for customers to undergo KYC verification. The people behind a platform should be honest and responsible for their activities, in my opinion. If they are functioning within the rules and regulations, then getting doxxed should not be a problem.

In terms of user appeal, I believe that a transparent staff might be advantageous for a gaming site. It provides customers piece of mind to know that the platform is managed by trustworthy persons and not by faceless organizations. It also facilitates improved communication and confidence between the platform and its users. However, this does not imply that anonymity is a negative thing; it might be advantageous for the platform in terms of user security and privacy. It is all about achieving equilibrium.

Maybe for security reasons, business owners feel no need to reveal their identity to the public and they can instruct their subordinates or someone from their team to take care of the business while the business owner is behind the business taking care of other things. We can see from the owners of several large businesses that we don't know who the business owners really are, but they have done KYC to the local regulators. So this possibility will also apply to business owners on the internet. We don't know who owns the business but they have submitted documents to the regulators.

They have a option to not complete their KYC to built a new casino, why does they need to complete the KYC without any benefit? lol. I believe the owner or the team of the casino ever submitted their KYC on elsewhere because almost people in this world can't become 100% anonymous, at least they've made a mistake in the past.

Casino is already popular without showing the team behind the casino, after all knowing the team who create the casino doesn't really make the casino is trustworthy, just look at shitcoin scam projects.

I heard it's not easy to run a licensed casino either online or offline, if you like yourself do not build a gambling haven without getting the licensed, you will be nailed so hard you will start regretting it, I believe that casinos do not need to reveal their identity because of the business they are running, if you can think about it very well they are very vulnerable to differs types of crimes if their identity is revealed.

For me, it doesn't matter if the team management passes KYC, because first of all we customers or clients are obliged to follow the rules and policies they have. In other words, we do not have the right to dictate to the team to pass their KYC as they are asking us to do.

And in that regard, I don't see anything wrong because they are the group management team.

And they are obliged to follow the rules and policies as well. Starting with ones that exist in the country where they are registered and where they operate, to the ones that they create themselves. Among all other things, that management team is responsible for crazy big casino bankrolls, so I guess they should pass KYC (and probably a full background check) before players. But someone said that the crypto gambling space is a wild west and I agree with that, at least here on the forum we have seen many times what some casinos do and get away with it.

It depends on each gambler because some gamblers want to see who is behind the casino team, so they think it will look cool to show the public who they are. But from a security point of view, they cannot freely leave their house because there might be some people who will recognize them. Besides that, they could use other people's identities to be shown to the public, and if this happened, it would be tantamount to deceiving the public.

Let the casino team not reveal their identity. But we as users cannot do that because when we play gambling at a casino, we must be prepared that the casino may ask us to do KYC at any time.

I'm going to escalate this a bit.

Let's say for example a player won $100K but he was not allowed by the casino to claim it for some reason. He became desperate and took his frustration out on the casino owner by pulling a gun. Attacks like that may be rare as it seems but it will only take one to take a life. Yes laws and police can come after the player but that won't save the owner anymore. Casino business is tricky and that danger is there for owners regardless if it's online or physical.

I get your point and I agree that there are certainly some unscrupulous individuals out there who may use such drastic actions. However, I still don't see how online casinos are fundamentally different from brick-and-mortar ones in this regard. Let's say that I am the CEO of a company that runs a chain of casinos across the country. Should I be afraid to walk down the street because of all the losers who lost their life savings in one of my casinos? Well, maybe I should. But I am still required by law to publish my personal information in public records as the CEO of the company. Why should an online casino be any different?

I haven't seen Casino owners coming around to the location themselves, they always remain unknown and their business locations are operated by other people, this is also the reason why they remain anonymous, the danger of exposing who the CEO of a gambling platform is is very big, moreover many bad people do gamble a lot, gangs, robbers, armed criminals etc, they could decide to take matter into their hands.

All types of companies are already required to submit their personal information to regulators are they not? Those records are not readily available to the public and they have to make some request before they can get it from what I know. The difference in what the OP is trying to do is that they're planning to release info that's probably beyond what's required by law.

I think most of crypto owner are using this method https://www.upcounsel.com/anonymous-llc

They're can hide their name from public although they're still need to submit their real name and identity to the regulators, but it will depends on how big is the case and does the regulators are responsible to expose the real owner. Just like Curacao license which is really pointless if you think they will able to control and make sure the casino isnt' scam, they have nothing to do even the casino turn become scam and the victim report to third party gambling site e.g. gamblingguru etc.

And only the regulators will know the personal information of each of these companies. We as the public, will not know about it and the casino itself will not issue any news to the public about it either. And we don't need to worry about it. We just keep playing and hope to win. Whether the identity of the casino owner and his team are published or will remain anonymous will not be a problem for gamblers because if his identity is revealed to the public but the casino cannot provide good performance for its users, it will mean nothing.

we all have our own decision about when and how we conduct or gambling activities , while you are looking for registered sites , I am for those who had been running for long time even if they are or not registered because that way I am more sure of their activities and their behavior as people will tell you who they are and not just because they have license that sometimes caring about nothing as they can still manage to scam players.
as long as it is written from the beginning ? then there will be no issues , but the thing is that most of them tries to Hide that rules to lure and mislead people.

It does not necessarily means that for casinos to be patronized, the CEO would or the casino would make public the identities of the board of directors or otherwise. I just believe since casinos are licensed by the government, they have the right to operate and government are in possession of their identity profiles so that should not call for alarm. Just as you have said, gamblers and bettors only aim and goals are just to play and win their games and as we all know not every time it is so. Sometimes you win and sometimes you loss that is the nature of the casino business so any one going in for it should be prepared mentality, psychologically, emotionally and otherwise so as not to get unexpected reaction from an event on result of game play. As to the identities of casinos ownership, it does not really matter to gamers as long as the casino git a government license to operate. I myself am okay by that. Every one has his or her own opinion about that.

Talking about crypto casino there are only few of them got license because some of the country maybe doesn't accept this or they have strict requirements before they can get some, only curacao is easy country to get that but it doesn't mean anything since scam casino can also get that in that country. So what most valid point to see right now is how long those casino operates and their performance on that time span of operation siince this will tell everything about pointing out if they are good or not. KYC of their owner is just a bonus point to see but actually not so important.

You know, even well-known popular casinos sometimes refuse to pay the winners (not all of them obviously). At least you can see online reviews here and there claiming they didn't pay this and that. I know, sometimes these are false accusations, but still, certain negative reviews can be verified and are credible.  ::)

Doxxed team wont help new gambling platform.

1. We have already thousands of casinos. For a new casino it will tough to survive among others. Nearly impossible.
2. New casino needs a loud promotion campaign, welcome bonuses, something attractive and new, to keep users on a platform.
3. In a digital era, why would gamblers trust doxxed team? We have black ID market. Anyone can be anyone. If I show you my passport, linkedin account, picture, could you tell who is behind the keyboard? 18 years old girl with a candy or a greedy scammer?

No casino authority will share their information with the public. Because they are also limited by certain rules. A gambler is at his own detriment if he becomes a victim of scamming by sharing his information. Just to be deserve that if an important person in charge of a gambling platform falls victim to such a situation, thousands of people will suffer. Naturally their concern is more important than the public.

There are several rules and regulations to follow in order to operate a casino. Otherwise those casino sites may be exposed to threats. If the casino is licensed then it has to fulfill certain obligations. And if it's not licensed, they still have to operate the casino within the rules.

If a normal user feels that his KYC information is dangerous to those unlicensed casinos then he can definitely leave that platform. But nowadays those who really want to develop gambling sites always try to keep that information safe.

I just look at the details of other site and you can just search for their registered name and you'll see their license information and their registered address, unfortunately I didn't see the name behind the project and I guess this is for their confidentiality and maybe they also want to remain anonymous as they offer a KYC platform. If OP is trying to look for a details that should remain private, I guess he will not succeed on this. If you are planning to put up a casino, telling who you are might not be enough to market your casino, so better to focus on your marketing strategy while strengthening the security of every players.

Isn't it the most popular casino, of course, has a high level of trust, so it's impossible if the casino doesn't want to pay large amounts of wins.
With the casinos not wanting to pay their winnings directly, the casinos are risking the casino business they have started from the bottom so that it can become the most popular casino and that will be very detrimental.

It's possible that there are indeed some people who make threads of false accusations that their winnings are not paid, but they cannot provide clear evidence about this so that we can sort it out and think clearly whether the casino they are accusing really doesn't want to pay it because I have found it myself. thread of accusation however which makes thread unable to show any evidence and disappears.

It is true that a casino's reputation is vital in keeping patron trust. Being open about ownership and displaying the ability to pay out large winnings will boost player trust and confidence. However, balancing transparency and owner privacy is a complex subject that must be handled with care to prevent jeopardizing the casino's reputation.
To maintain fairness and honesty, a licensed casino must follow all applicable rules and regulations. Casino owners may choose to cover their identities for security reasons, but this might have an impact on player trust. Balancing privacy and transparency is a sensitive problem that is ultimately determined by the circumstances.

Crypto gambling sites don't need to be completely transparent, but they need to be transparent to some extent in order to gain the trust of the public.

Some sites reveal their information to the public with good intentions while some other sites do so with nefarious intentions. Being transparent doesn't automatically translate to a trustworthy site.

Trust is earned little by little in various ways. This is why I feel that the team getting 100% doxxed won't solve the KYC issue.

What well known popular casino exactly you are describing because it’s impossible for them to operate freely without a negative feedback on their trust score here in the forum. A case that not paying winner with valid proof is enough for them to be tagged as scammer. Are you sure the proof is valid because some complaints provide proof of withdrawal while the user itself violates the casino ToS which is the main reason why they are not being paid. Most of the complaints online provide only a cut proof to make the casino looks like a scam.

Agreed. Transparency is important but it's just one aspect of building trust. It's not a silver bullet. Doing things like having fair games, prompt payouts and proper security measures goes a long way in gaining the trust of players. Doxxing the whole team might not be the solution, but a combination of various factors can help establish credibility and build trust with players. But let's be clear: there's no easy way to gain people's trust, and making all your information public could have just as many (if not more) pitfalls as benefits.

Yes, because how many times have you seen projects stating that their team is a doxxed one?
And yet, they still end up screwing their investors. It is not anymore an assurance that they will do things right.
So even with gambling sites stating that their team is doxxed, they won't gain the credibility right away.
It is thru the years how they will build their reputation in this business. A matter of years of existence where complaints are being handled promptly.
Sometimes I feel that a project stating that their team is doxxed just wanted to get an approval from the community without so much effort, but people already learned their lessons in this market.

It's really not how it works. You have a pretty naive viewpoint if you think the staff of a financial company would expose themselves in such a way and why should people in a company not have privacy? KYC is designed to prevent financial abuse, it is not intended to share private information with the world. These companies and many even regulators in some countries might expect to see such personal details, but it is not fair and no worker would stick around to be put at risk like that. It's a complete liability to regular employees and would put them at much greater risk of things like kidnapping or blackmail if their information was shared, for no discernible benefit to anyone.

I guess regulated casinos (which require KYC from users) aren't anonymous. You have to investigate their licenses, so you will find more informations of where their headquarters is located, who is the responsible individual for the business, etc... Staff team doesn't expose themselves on their casino's website and social medias, but with some further research I believe it's possible to find the details you are looking for, because they shouldn't be completely hidden too.

I don't see any problem for more casinos to enter the market since you will.need to have a good product for gamblers to keep patronizing you brand and coming to your casino. Business is all about competition and any product or brand that are not ready for competition would fall aside without having continueous traffic from players.

We have different kinds of casinos platform and all the casino platform and can say that they are into competition so it is the platform that I have benefit from easy people in the platform that people will patronize or work with so all these things is like a market competition when do you have not set up your platform very well it is when you have a difficultie in your platform

Yes it is but at least in those popular casino here in our humble forum? the chance of being addressed properly ?  and of course the gambling community here will push the site to act accordingly not like to those who have no big names here that can just deny answering those issues and may end up scamming to the players trust .
and also negative reviews can be verified but also there are people that only wanted to ruin site reputation so lets be aware of those issues.

In business, transparency matters alot as it tells who you are and what you tend to be in the long run. Being transparent keeps your customers and shows them how reliable and trustworthy you and your business is. When seen as a person or business of such, that attracts more clients because already that has done the marketing for you through your clients because they would make recommendations for your own benefit.



It is true that some do reveal their information with good intentions while some plans to carrying out nefarious act which is not a good one. Being transparent do let people see the inward aspect of things and knowing what to do at the right time so as to avoid any ill situations.


Building a trust line isn't a bed of roses. It takes time to do so based on your records milestones achieved and that will also work when you have been available for letting ng delivering Services without any complaint and also, quick response to customers complaints and inquiries with positive results and response overtime.



And the approval which they seek for through that means would not be acknowledged by the community even if they have field the best team for the casino. Reputation takes time to build based on your services rendered. No body builds a house in one day. Everything is a gradual process which involves time and commitment.

So actually, the identity of the casino owner is not a problem whether you want to be published or not because it will depend on how the casino can provide good service and comfort for gamblers to play gambling.
This is a business and when people can benefit from it, they will not care who owns it or the team from the casino because they already feel the benefits.
Of the many existing casino platforms, we see which are really serious about running their casinos in providing good service to their members.
And maybe it's also why many gamblers don't want to know too much about the team behind the casino and want to gamble and earn from the casino.

What???

I did not say that more casinos = problem. My point was, that having a doxxed team wont be a a huge benefit for gamblers to join OP's friends casino. The point was, that among 1000 casinos, it is useless to tell that we have a doxxed team, come join us instead of 999 others. Being doxxed does not make you special. Example - we knows lots of identities of hackers and scammers, and we cant do much about it. To get customers to new casino, doxxed team is not enough. Casino must offer something others dont. That is a simple business rule.

And if only the regulator knew the profile of the casino owner and the team behind the casino, we couldn't do anything about it. Maybe the regulations from the regulator are already like that. But if we have any problems, we can directly contact the regulators to help solve our problems, especially if, in this case, the casino doesn't want to pay our winnings and let the regulators force the casino. I also feel fine with the identity of the casino owner that I don't know because they must have their own reasons that make them unable to tell the public. And as long as the casino can pay out my winnings fairly without asking me to do many requirements and making it more complicated, that would be better for me.

True. This is why most gambling sites think twice before sharing any of their private details with the public. They end up relying on licenses to help prove their legitimacy ultimately.

Many crypto sites used this particular strategy to scam the public and ran away without a second thought(HYIP scams etc).

Most times When a project comes on air and say that their team is doxxed I do not bother myself with them because that is not what my concern is. I really do not pay attention to the issue of project team being doxxed or not whether casino or otherwise what I really look at is their license because that I where the identities of the ownership of the project lies. Since they have Government issued certificate to operate, it means that the government is fully aware of their presence and business so getting them anything and any day would not be an issue but as long as they are delivering their services to desired satisfaction, I have no problem with the casino because I can easily get them.

It is unlikely that a gambling platform would be more attractive to users if the team were entirely "doxxed," meaning that their personal information was publicly revealed.
It would have an adverse effect, as the site would be no more trustworthy.

Privacy has been a very core thing of interest and a case of concern of recent times in the gambling industry and most times I think it will be more better that the team stays anonymous at least for their safety and most times this KYC issues should be more related to the licensing bodies who gave the license to the casino.

We've also heard about some casinos in the past who claimed to be doxxed and still yet ends up messing up the trust and credibility so even if it is doxxed or not, it doesn't make any sense  to me.

A good question. But the casino often shows us a big part of data - license, the owner, address, etc. One more question - how it can help the gambler? The most time the ToS have several paragraphs that allow them to ban account any moment and the gambler can do nothing with it. The second moment is that casino works like the bank. They deposit and withdraw your money. Do you often see bank that shows their KYC verification? I don`t think so.

What difference does it even make? Just because the team won't hide their faces doesn't mean that they won't cheat their users in the future. At worst, they'll just lose their license, that's all. And to be frank, most casinos are sub-licensed.

Exactly and this is why they do really to have that conclusive approach that if someone do show up their faces then they do assume out that it would be 100% secure or they do believe that hacking and stealing

couldn't really be that possible which is a BS kind of mindset or idea to have.There would be no assurance no matter what service do really show up their faces.They can ran off anytime if they wanted to.
It is really just that there are ones who are really that basing up with their standards, well yes its really that good if ever to be on that way to have that transparency but most of them decided
not to show up their faces or making their identities been exposed but what matter most is that they do still give out that service that we are wanting or needing.

^Definitely right and that is only in Curacao e-gaming licensing authority which most gambling casinos license have. These authorized bodies of Curacao offer two types of licenses, the Master License and the one you have said, the Sub-License. But in other licensing casino authorities, it is hard to lose their license because it is hard to obtain another one, the Malta Gaming Authority, and the UK Gambling Commission, it takes 10-16 weeks before you can obtain a license not like Curacao license only 2-3 weeks you can have a license very quick. So the doxxed team on the very hard-to-obtain gaming license will probably have a chance of assurance not to scam us in the future, but I don't think so in Curacao licensing, it seems very easy.

They still can be. A license cost money and that's supposed to be the incentive for a casino to stay fair and obey the law. If there are complaints, the issuer of the license takes it away.
It doesn't mean a commission that sells these licenses is some kind of detective agency. They require someone's name and address and that person could be a drunkard or a drug addict who they pay.
A license doesn't mean transparent staff. It means there were fees paid and there weren't enough complaints yet for that license to be taken away.

Actually it’s better to find the own ideology for the crypto gambling.We can’t trust blindly anyone or anymore.It’s essential to do background verification for the gambling sites.From that you get some good knowledge about gambling site.The Kyc based gambling is mostly not used by most of the people,Since they look for gambling without any kyc.Because even they play gambling with the unaccounted money.It doesn’t matter and so they may not like to use their own identity.Some may not to share because of their family members to know they playing of gambling.

The matter of avoiding kyc is all dependent on the worth of your bankroll and which casino you chose to gamble on.
If you are gambling with a huge amount of money, that is a high roller, and requesting withdrawals that are quite substantial as well, then there is a chance that you would hardly find a casino where you would play on without passing kyc verification, except you decide to gamble on a non licensed casino, which can be extremely risky as well, as we all know that majority of unlicensed casinos are being operated by scammers..
So at the end of it all, it is better to pass kyc and play on a safe casino, than doge kyc verification and end up losing your money to petty scammers.

But we will find it difficult to determine who is behind the casino team because their identities are not exposed to the public. But maybe if we ask the regulator that provides the license, we can get the answer, especially if the casino doesn't respond to our complaints. As long as the casino can provide the best for its members, gamblers or their members will not be too curious because gamblers also respect the confidentiality of the casino team. And only the regulator will know who owns the casino and its staff.

Many casinos do not like to unviel the owner or team in charge of the casino to prevent scrutiny that could lead to more invesgation about the owner of the casino in case they had done something illegal at the past time. KYC is not a problem because many gamblers do not care about that.

I think it is very unlikely that a regulator will expose the information of a casino operator unless there is very significant grounds to do so. I think it would also require both a violation of license rules and/or the law as well as grounds for a court proceeding before it would even be considered. Otherwise, the most you will get from them is the information of the company that holds the license. To find out the ownership of that company would also be a similar process to what was explained.

if there is a legal complaint towards the casino, there is chance that you can extract the ownership details from the licensing company. however, not many people go in this route as we all know it is hard to traverse the route of court proceeding. unless, you have significant amount of money that are at stake and you want to recover it. i guess, if the site is not responding from you, you can very well contact the licensing company as they are the one responsible with their gambling license. if you have valid grounds, and you win with your case, the licensing company can strip off their license.

This is one of the reasons why it is good to making sure you do your research before engaging or dealing with any casino. One of the things I always check for before I engage in gambling site is the license they have. I check for where the license was issued and the organization that issued the license, when the license was issued and I also check if the license do have a renewal or valid time of expiration. I do this because getting a license for casino is an automatic kyc between the casino ownership and the government issuing the license so I could be able to find out who they are if anything goes wrong with my funds under their custody. This information I get from the casino or the license issuing organization can help me track the ownership of the casino if anything happens. This o do to be on the safe side.

Companies that offer licenses are much less likely to give any information about customers who purchased a license from them, no matter what the circumstances. There is a very large process to go to court even if you have the monetary resources. I doubt anyone would go through that process unless they had a valid and sizeable claim, not just to extract information. So overall, no, it's not possible to extract information from casinos without a tiresome process that wouldn't be worth it unless a very large claim was to be paired with it.

KYC is actually a major problem and it is one of the hottest topic in the cryptocurrency right now. Whether it's about crypto exchange or crypto gambling sites. Many crypto users doesn't want to be KYC'ed because for them it invades their privacy and they are afraid that their KYC data's can be leaked or sold later on and can fall on the wrong hands, making the situation even harder. We gamblers hate KYC, so we do care if a gambling site requires it.

We also want for the casino team to KYC themselves to prove that they are clean and free from illegalities in the past and it can give us an assurance that they will easily be traced by the authorities if ever they do something fishy.

If you ever own a casino, the biggest mistake I think you would make is to KYC yourself to the general public, I believe that casino owners always KYC themselves to the licensing authorities before they are given a license to operate , this should be enough already.
If a casino owner KYC themselves to the general public, they are simply putting their life, their business, their family at a very big risk, there are many angry losers out there willing and ready to do anything to have their money back, and you never can who is who, As a casino CEO, making your identify visible and such players getting hold of your identity and address could spell doom for you are your family.

Gambling is suppose to be easy and friendly so we all should stick to what makes us happy when we bet on them not something that will make us regret when we took a step that is very detrimental to our health and social lifestyle.
It is not easy to make money in gambling when we are betting on the wrong game that couldn't bring out output.

Any casino CEO who dares put him or herself on public light in the name of kyc is doing that it at his or her own perils because that is not wisdom. Although they do get license which requires them doing a kyc with their license issuing organization  and that is enough for them to run their casino as long as they present their license number on their legal documents online their casino but should not be cajoled to make a public kyc otherwise what ever they see is their own cup of tea.
You can imagine being a debtor and hiding from being seen  than when you owe some debt and publicly showing yourself. Your paymasters would definitely come to demand their debt back from you. This is the situation of the comment you just made. In as much as kyc is concerned, it is not compulsory for everyone. If you do not want to kyc, look for other casino that does not kyc then get engaged with them. It is not a compulsory thing but it is necessary depending on the casino you get involved with.

Problem probably is misconception of KYC purpose. Reputable online casino teams' information are publicized and if not, on their license, on the usual which is to lessen the worry of their players. In my opinion, gambling platforms are requiring KYC procedures to avoid allowing anyone to withdraw one's fund. There are instances wherein devices and accounts are being accessed and one way to lomit such instances is for them to verify in every withdrawal. Another guess is to prevent underage players to ccess their platforms; we all know why. But I do get the point why there is a trust issue being emphasized in this procedure. Just keep in mind that if you're in the right casino, there's nothing much to be worried of.

Yes, it's true that all crypto users on exchanges or exchange platforms, even in the crypto gambling industry, many of them object to the existence of KYC requirements for exchanges and exchange platforms, they are more afraid and wary of someone hacking and knowing the assets they are storing, even The main fear is if it gets stolen all the valuable assets that have been collected and stored.
If in the crypto gambling industry it seems that gamblers are more afraid if their personal data is used to carry out unwanted actions such as committing fraud.
Maybe what you said is right that it should be better if in the future the gambling platform can provide proof that the platform is free from past licenses which can cause problems so that every gambler feels safe and trusts when giving KYC.

I really don't think being doxxed had any major role to play on the management team of a casino because just as most users have also stated here, there have been casinos who had their team doxxed but still ended up a failed project.
To me what really matters the most is staying transparent at all time and doing what is right and I also think that that one of the major reason why the team don't do kyc as maybe it isn't required by the licensing board.

I agree, there are casinos that even having a verified team, they're not exempted to failure. Being transparent is what most gamblers want, we want to know the current status of a casino if ever some issues have been brought about them. Like, they're going to give some statements or thoughts on what really is their standing just to give assurance to their customers that there's nothing to be worried about. Although we hear it a lot whenever some issues are being experienced but with such resources, we can tell if they're transparent or not.