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Title: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Davidvictorson on February 04, 2023, 09:47:12 AM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

The following are some of the responsible gambling guidelines I found on Livecasino.io (https://livecasino.io/en/help-center/help-your-account/responsible-gaming), Duelbits (https://duelbits.com/responsible-gambling), TrustDice (https://trustdice.win/responsible-gaming), and others. They all have the same idea.

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- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

 Any thoughts?


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Oshosondy on February 04, 2023, 10:28:51 AM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. The loss of gamblers is the process of gambling sites.
But if gamblers are winning, there would be no casino or other gambling sites, but I like the fact that gambling sites still make it clear for gamblers to use little amount of money that they can afford to lose.

It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up.
Signing up is the easiest thing to do, even the questions about gambling addiction is only suggested by some gambling sites and not in a way it is compulsory. They are what that even a 15 year old person can know about.

Any thoughts?
Who is going to be addicted will be but it is good that gambling sites do advice their users to visit the recommended page to know the do not for not to become addicted.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: btc_angela on February 04, 2023, 10:36:22 AM
I don't think there are so called moral obligations for casinos, they are in the business of making money, and just like any other business, they want more people to patronized them and will have them to lose in order for casinos to profit.

Of course there are this thing called responsible gambling introduce by many casinos now.

But how many gamblers do you think know about this one? or even if they know it, are they going to practice it?


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Maus0728 on February 04, 2023, 10:55:45 AM
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Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Or it is the casino's disclaimer that they are not responsible for anything bad that can happen to you because you are gambling like a shithead.

Sure, on the flipside, reminders like these denotes a positive tone, however you can't be sure if these entities actually cares to some random dude playing on their website. At the end of the day, their goal is to make money by providing some sort of entertainment where gamblers can enjoy.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Jawhead999 on February 04, 2023, 10:58:46 AM
Do you know what? they're lying :D

I don't know why they're wrote like that, it's either the license or the regulations force the casino to write it or the casino itself has an idea about that. I'm not saying gambling is bad, because gambling is good for kill boredom and enjoy to play like online games. Most people see gambling is harm and bad, that's why they're convince anyone if they're care with the gambler and make sure the gambler not become an addict.

Similar like cigarette where it's always an advertisement about smoking is bad, after all they're want to promote their brand.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Taskford on February 04, 2023, 11:00:53 AM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

The following are some of the responsible gambling guidelines I found on Livecasino.io (https://livecasino.io/en/help-center/help-your-account/responsible-gaming), Duelbits (https://duelbits.com/responsible-gambling), TrustDice (https://trustdice.win/responsible-gaming), and others. They all have the same idea.

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- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

 Any thoughts?

I think those casino is just complying with responsible gambling regulation on each casino. But for sure all of them want to keep you betting because its a profit for them and it will not be a good business to them if their costumers will just spend a chunk. They want whales to come in and bet since this is how they can get revenue to their casino, but what good thing about those casino is atleast they post that notice because there are still time for other to think clearly before starting to spend their money on casino.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: n0ne on February 04, 2023, 11:12:58 AM
For them it is business and with every activity online we were able to see disclaimer and such a disclaimer is found in each and every gambling platform. Every casino want it's users to play in a responsible way, only then business will be good. When it comes to an investment based platform, we can see the disclaimer investments are subject to risk read the terms carefully before investing.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Frankolala on February 04, 2023, 11:40:55 AM
Gambling is a business,there for, the casino will put all those  do's and don'ts, to blind fold you towards their intention of collecting your money and to also show a prove to the casino regulatory bodies,in case there is a serious gambling related case,which led to depression or ruined life of their customers,for the casino not to be held responsible of such situation.

The casinos are after their customers funds because it is a business,and nobody will love to loose in his business. Those guidelines are written to save and remind a responsible gambler not to fall into addiction. If the casino cares about the welfare of their customers,then if a gamblers lost heavily,he should be given back 50% of his lost and shouldn't be allowed to gamble in their platform till the next two days.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: piebeyb on February 04, 2023, 11:47:31 AM
that is why gambling is not appropriate for minors to play, after all playing gambling must be really wise and you should not play gambling if you cannot control yourself because maybe it will cause people to lose a lot of money  ;)


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: nakamura12 on February 04, 2023, 12:03:50 PM
It's not like they will ban you if you become a gambling addict by betting huge amount of money on their platform. The reason for that is they don't want to be responsible of every gambler's fault that's why they have a guidelines or disclaimer if it's different platforms. Just like in investment, they will always put it in their platform "Invest at your own risk" and in a crypto platform I know is they put "price may increase or decrease so invest at your own risk". That explains why they put up a guideline and casino is also a business after all.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: livingfree on February 04, 2023, 12:10:35 PM
Most of them are giving the reminder to be a responsible gambler and they're giving access to everyone to self-exclude.

Well, they're a business and yeah of course they also care for their customers and want only the responsible ones to retain.

And one thing for sure is that, they're not a charity and it's known to the most who are their target market.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: rhomelmabini on February 04, 2023, 12:23:52 PM
I think it's just for publicity sake and wouldn't it be just always a disclaimer since they are being regulated? I don't think they got that obligation in the first place because if they do then they should have helped those problem gamblers if they could identify each one of them. Isn't that ironic?


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: len01 on February 04, 2023, 12:26:08 PM
maybe some casinos have issued warnings about betting responsibly, but these warnings are always ignored by gamblers who have the mindset of gambling to double their money.
because every gambler has different principles, there are those who are responsible for betting just for fun with money they can afford to lose, and there are also gamblers who have the principle of doubling money at gambling (especially gambling addicts).

so that these warnings will often be ignored by some gamblers who are obviously not responsible for betting, but will always be paid attention to by gamblers who have full responsibility for their bets.
but after all, this kind of thing is indeed very difficult even though the casino always gives a warning but it all comes back to each gambler.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: klidex on February 04, 2023, 12:39:11 PM
that is why gambling is not appropriate for minors to play, after all playing gambling must be really wise and you should not play gambling if you cannot control yourself because maybe it will cause people to lose a lot of money  ;)
It seems that age cannot be a guarantee that every gambler can be responsible because many of them are already adults but still cannot take responsibility when gambling.
There are some gamblers who are underage and in fact they can obey all the existing rules because they are afraid of sanctions that will be given if they make a mistake and are irresponsible.
Control is needed by every gambler, but it's rare for them to be able to control themselves so that they minimize losing money on a large scale.
Until now there are still many gamblers who play but only follow their emotions and lust for victory and profit.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: dimonstration on February 04, 2023, 12:48:25 PM
They really not happy when their player is losing some money but they don’t have a choice because they enter this kind of industry which players need to lose in able for them to have a profit and continue the casino operations. I believe they want players to become responsible gambler so that they will not ruin there life and continue gambling in the long run because having a stable source profit is much better than having one time big time win for the casino.

As a gambler. We are all aiming for the casino to lose against us. I believe they are doing the same for the sake of their company. Not personally.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: jrrsparkles on February 04, 2023, 12:52:47 PM
Casino is a business sector just like thousands of others, it good that they have some warnings for the bettors but how much people really going to pay attention to it anyway. If one who wants to gamble all their money they will features like self exclusion can't stop them too because they can jump one from another within a matter of minutes so what can we do is to teach the upcoming generation about every kind of addiction as early as possible.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: xSkylarx on February 04, 2023, 12:55:04 PM
They are just saying this as a reminder, and this also needs to be put up on the website to follow the legalities of their casino, and it is also just showing them that they are taking care of those gamblers who play on their platform. It is still up to you on how you would prevent yourself from getting addicted to gambling or control yourself, as for sure if you get addicted, they will not help you. That is why those reminders are posted for you as a guide on how to prevent the addiction to it.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Wexnident on February 04, 2023, 12:56:23 PM
Any thoughts?
We'd probably never know ngl. Sure, I'd also like to think that casinos don't really want their users to gamble away their money irresponsibly (they'd still lose, but in a more controlled manner) but the thing is that's most likely just the from they need to comply hence why they post stuff like that. Either way, they'd still profit regardless of people playing responsibly or not. Ofc, I don't really mind (and neither should others really) whether they want me to gamble responsibly or not, it's my choice anyway and I don't really need to put the responsibility for them when I'm just using their services.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on February 04, 2023, 12:58:18 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.

That's true but nevertheless they never loose if a gambler looses or win and as the fact says, they earn a commission from every gamblers attempt to bet and if they will they also have a little cut they benefits and if the gambler looses as well they have nothing to loose, what the casinos work on is to generate traffic, whereby alot of gamblers will be using their platform to gamble and place bet in which they have their own little incentives from only this actions alone.

I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them.

To give a patronage and stay, but what determines the gambler's stay is the satisfaction they derived in their customer service, starting from when they were been attended to on first approach.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: robelneo on February 04, 2023, 01:28:18 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.
Whether they like it or not the house edge will beat gamblers in a long run, and they will not change that even if they will not enjoy seeing gamblers losing money, they have operational costs and profits to maintain

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I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up.
That is why they have KYC and they asked for vital information to check if they have compulsive gamblers playing on their platform, and they don't want to get the blame for the miseries gamblers are facing with their losses

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Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.
They can only advice but they cannot impose, it's hard to trace who among their players who are gambling irresponsibly and it would be unfair if they keep banning account without evidence of iresponsible gambling
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The following are some of the responsible gambling guidelines I found on Livecasino.io (https://livecasino.io/en/help-center/help-your-account/responsible-gaming), Duelbits (https://duelbits.com/responsible-gambling), TrustDice (https://trustdice.win/responsible-gaming), and others. They all have the same idea.
- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.


Not all gamblers will read this, they know, that they already know this but it's different when they are actually playing, although its recommended gamblers will always prefer experience than recomendation.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: decodx on February 04, 2023, 01:40:04 PM
Any thoughts?

Well, let's face it, online casinos aren't running a charity, they're in it to make some green. And how do they do that? By stacking the odds in their favor in games of chance, where the house always wins...eventually. So, the reality is that most players will be walking away empty-handed in the long run.

Online casinos benefit from players losing money, but they also benefit from players having a positive experience and the potential to return and play again in the future. That's why they push the whole "gamble responsibly" and "just for fun" thing - they don't want a bunch of unhappy losers badmouthing them through negative reviews or false accusations on social media, and potentialy ruining their reputation.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Johnyz on February 04, 2023, 01:52:38 PM
They have to take good care of their players because if all the gamblers become addict, it can also hurt the reputation of the site and of course there will be no gambler that can bring fresh money for the site, so this can be a big loss to them that's why they encourage everyone to be more responsible and don't gamble beyond their means. I believe this is also part of their strategy and yeah a corporate social responsibility, if the site cares about their players most probably they will attract more.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: virasisog on February 04, 2023, 02:14:38 PM
I think they are just warning their players and reminding them to play and bet responsibly but they won't mind if players are falling into gambling addiction because it isn't their responsibility to monitor them. It is our personal obligation to control our gambling urge.
They are promoting responsible gambling but they wouldn't do it charitably because their main goal is to earn and to keep their business running. Business is business after all.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: coin-investor on February 04, 2023, 02:27:11 PM


- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.
It's part of their compliance that they have something like this, they want to be projected as an entertainment portal, not a platform where players will turn to addiction to gambling, but these are all recommendations it's not within their control if gamblers choose to play long hours and wage a lot of money, reputable casinos may see this as alarming but other casinos will see this as good for their business.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: molsewid on February 04, 2023, 02:37:02 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

The following are some of the responsible gambling guidelines I found on Livecasino.io (https://livecasino.io/en/help-center/help-your-account/responsible-gaming), Duelbits (https://duelbits.com/responsible-gambling), TrustDice (https://trustdice.win/responsible-gaming), and others. They all have the same idea.

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- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

 Any thoughts?
I believe that yes they have still the concern and hearte to its gamblers. But we as gambler and people should be responsible for everything, no matter how many times they will keep on saying these things and will show up even in the front page of their pages if you will not understand this thing and take it to your heart and mind you will eventually fall into greed if you let your emotions go before you, if you still want to chase the losses yes I know no one wants to have a losses or go into deficit but the thing is we have the control to our life.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: mindrust on February 04, 2023, 02:44:36 PM
A responsible gambler is the best gambler because he is a returning customer. People who go all in will lose everything they got and they won’t be playing anymore because a person like that can’t have a job and a guy with no job can’t earn money. The casino don’t want that. They don’t want their customers to lose their life savings. That’s no good for the both player and the casino. A gambler that plays every week with the 10% his income is a better customer than a guy that wagers his whole paycheck.

This is all on paper though. If the player wants to go all in, nothing can stop him from doing so. There will always be some people that want to get poor by their own will.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: piebeyb on February 04, 2023, 02:51:07 PM
that is why gambling is not appropriate for minors to play, after all playing gambling must be really wise and you should not play gambling if you cannot control yourself because maybe it will cause people to lose a lot of money  ;)
It seems that age cannot be a guarantee that every gambler can be responsible because many of them are already adults but still cannot take responsibility when gambling.
There are some gamblers who are underage and in fact they can obey all the existing rules because they are afraid of sanctions that will be given if they make a mistake and are irresponsible.

Self-control is needed by every gambler, but it's rare for them to be able to control themselves so that they minimize losing money on a large scale.
Until now there are still many gamblers who play but only follow their emotions and lust for victory and profit.
yes, the difference was that before I played gambling on the street to get money now people easily play gambling through their cellphones without knowing their age but that might be a problem if you have to be asked to complete KYC, but as it is said that everything returns to our own control because winning comes from there


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: maydna on February 04, 2023, 03:51:33 PM
If many casinos have such responsible gambling guidelines, we as gamblers should not treat gambling beyond these limits so that it will not have bad consequences for us. We should treat gambling as entertainment and not expect too much from gambling to earn much money.

We can enjoy gambling by using money as needed and not exceeding our set limits. We are responsible for ourselves and our money, so we must remember that gambling is entertainment.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Rruchi man on February 04, 2023, 04:08:34 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.
It is true that online casinos want you to gamble responsibly, but not all of them. Some casinos and even online sports betting platforms are concerned that there users do not become irresponsible gamblers and they go ahead to make effort still with their name telling people to "gamble responsibly".

On television, I was happy to see recently an advert from ''BETKING'', a popular sport betting platform telling people to know when to stop gambling. This is a part of a campaign that the company launched to promote responsible gambling.
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BetKing, has launched a campaign themed ‘Kings Know when to stop’ that aims to encourage a responsible gaming ecosystem by educating players on the importance of betting responsibly.

A statement by the organization said the campaign features a three-part TVC that encourages players to maintain responsible gaming behaviors by recognizing and sticking to their limits.
source (https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2023/01/06/betking-launches-campaign-to-promote-responsible-gaming/)

It proves that truly some casino's and other gambling platforms are in support of responsible gambling.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: uneng on February 04, 2023, 04:40:12 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them.
Smart casinos will always try caring for the mental and financial health of their customers, not only (and maybe not exactly) because it's a moral matter, but because a healthy gambler is much more profitable for the business, since he will maintain a frequent activity on the platform on long term, while a problem gambler may spend tons of money at once, but won't be able to come back to play again, since he will be bankrupt and restricted from gambling.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: kamvreto on February 04, 2023, 04:55:41 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them.
Smart casinos will always try caring for the mental and financial health of their customers, not only (and maybe not exactly) because it's a moral matter, but because a healthy gambler is much more profitable for the business, since he will maintain a frequent activity on the platform on long term, while a problem gambler may spend tons of money at once, but won't be able to come back to play again, since he will be bankrupt and restricted from gambling.

Some online casinos may have programs and practices to help their customers play wisely and maintain financial and mental health.
However, this can vary from casino to casino, and not all online casinos apply the same standards.
There are several things that online casinos can do to help their customers play wisely, such as providing information on playing responsibly, limiting the amount of money that can be withdrawn each day, and providing tools to limit the time to play or the amount of money that can be spent.
However, this doesn't mean that all online casinos do this, or that they do it effectively. Therefore, it is very important for customers to do research and understand what an online casino has to offer before deciding to play.
In general, it is important for customers to play wisely and take care of their financial and mental health by understanding the risks and limiting the time and money they risk.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: bittraffic on February 04, 2023, 05:10:29 PM

Aren't casinos just playing with us? Casino is a business and they know whoever has money will spend to make money.
A few responsible guidelines will do but this is the same as those tokens in ICO where they are telling users to invest money they can afford to lose but after a few pep talks, they will also tell investors they can't make a huge profit if investors risk too little amount.



Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: famososMuertos on February 04, 2023, 05:46:50 PM
The case e.g. what has happened to online sports betting, which over the years has become widespread, people who in their lives no had followed one sport, Now make bets.

I mean, in a certain way, one would expect the bet to be really recreational and in that sense, he would bet on a sport that he likes and that he knows in a certain way.

That way the bettor could say "my team didn't play well, things didn't work out, etc.".

They doesn't even think about losing money, having bad luck, making a mistake, etc.  That is a bet for entertainment and fun, bet on your team and on the sport you know.

So, it is something organic that should be given that way, you do not need to read it, since reading it will not change your orientation in that "healthy" feeling of gambling for entertainment.

Those warnings from the casino are there as a legal and social order matter, it's like the signs to keep quiet in a library, well many may not even know that such a thing exists, but they are there.

With all this, what I am saying is that almost always the people who have problems with any type of betting is that they do not have prior learning, either because, as in the case of sports betting, they never even follow a sport, they do not manage statistics ( or something simple like a fan's intuition. ;)  ) and So every time they lose it's the casino's fault or their bad luck.

Then! Anyone who I suspected is prone to situations of anxiety, depression, stress and even more so if they have gambling problems should stay away, yes or yes, from a casino, it is the only solution, some clauses are not going to save them.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: dothebeats on February 04, 2023, 05:55:07 PM
While I think some of these casinos have the genuine care on their players, some of them are posting messages such as this for the gamblers to not think that the casino is their enemy and is there solely to take their money. It feels like it's a psychological trick that they're applying on users for them to continue playing as long as it's within a set budget that the gambler allots for their gambling activities.

Well if I were the gambler and sees that the casino somewhat cares about my well-being, I would be grateful and, in a way, will be supporting the casino even more.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Die_empty on February 04, 2023, 06:05:11 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

The following are some of the responsible gambling guidelines I found on Livecasino.io (https://livecasino.io/en/help-center/help-your-account/responsible-gaming), Duelbits (https://duelbits.com/responsible-gambling), TrustDice (https://trustdice.win/responsible-gaming), and others. They all have the same idea.

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- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

 Any thoughts?
Tobacco companies in my country print boldly "Smokers a liable to die young" on every pack of cigarettes they produce and sell. I feel that they are doing this because the government mandates that. If they are concerned about the health of smokers, they would have simply stopped production.

Casino companies are not charitable organizations they are open for profit making. And they make more money when gamblers lose more and if nobody losses for some time the casino might go bankrupt. They might not want people to become addicts because it could lead to unfavorable government policies but they won't deny that they want to make a profit.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Oceat on February 04, 2023, 06:21:49 PM
While I think some of these casinos have the genuine care on their players, some of them are posting messages such as this for the gamblers to not think that the casino is their enemy and is there solely to take their money. It feels like it's a psychological trick that they're applying on users for them to continue playing as long as it's within a set budget that the gambler allots for their gambling activities.

Well if I were the gambler and sees that the casino somewhat cares about my well-being, I would be grateful and, in a way, will be supporting the casino even more.
Then their psychological tricks is effective. :D

Somehow I believe that they were just following some guidelines to prevent some violation but they love their players losing money since it's still a business at the end of the day. Although, this should be followed to all of the casinos to let their players or potential players to be aware of what should be the results of their hasty decision.

It's up to the people/gamblers to control everything on their own after those reminders.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: rahmad2nd on February 04, 2023, 06:54:12 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

The following are some of the responsible gambling guidelines I found on Livecasino.io (https://livecasino.io/en/help-center/help-your-account/responsible-gaming), Duelbits (https://duelbits.com/responsible-gambling), TrustDice (https://trustdice.win/responsible-gaming), and others. They all have the same idea.

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- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

 Any thoughts?

This thread reminds me of smoking products, on the outside of the package there is a warning sign written about the dangers of smoking. referring to what is stated on the cigarette packaging, I do not see that it is part of the cigarette manufacturer's moral obligations. but they are obliged to give this warning, due to regulations from the law that must be included in each cigarette pack.  but in fact, the number of smokers is increasing despite the warnings printed on each pack.

On the other hand, this thread illustrates what I demonstrated with a cigarette manufacturer. nevertheless, I will be happy to accept it kindly, if these guidelines are purely based on moral obligations because they have quite positive values. in practice, however, these guidelines appear to be allegory. because after all, to be a responsible gambler is not as simple as it says according to these guidelines.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: GideonGono on February 04, 2023, 06:57:36 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

The following are some of the responsible gambling guidelines I found on Livecasino.io (https://livecasino.io/en/help-center/help-your-account/responsible-gaming), Duelbits (https://duelbits.com/responsible-gambling), TrustDice (https://trustdice.win/responsible-gaming), and others. They all have the same idea.

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- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

 Any thoughts?
I think they just want to survive in the long run that is why they are reminding their gambler to be a responsible gambler.
For me it is all just a business if the gambler lost too much on them and started bad mouthing their website it could affect their future clients, plus they would lose those who are constantly losing too much money on their site.
I think they just want the gambler to be responsible so that it could keep on coming back to them.
P.S it is only my opinion about this topic and how I see it.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: pixie85 on February 04, 2023, 07:25:12 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them.

You believe right :)

There are two possibly best outcomes for a casino.
- A player stays at 50% win rate and keeps coming back and playing on regular basis. The casino earns its fee, has a high online count, the gambler is happy because he loses one day but comes back and wins it all back the next time. The player leaves positive reviews, maybe invites others to play.
-A player wins, comes back with a lot of money and loses it all fast. The casino earns in a single day more than that player would be able to bring in fees and entries in a few years.

They can be happy with a gambler who loses and never comes back as long as it's a lot of money. Each player has a value to the business and you can bring that value in 5 years or in 1 day.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: cabron on February 04, 2023, 07:36:28 PM

They promote responsible gambling and encourage players to spend within thier means. Very ironic but these casinos also provide hotline for users with a gambling problems. 

While I believe they have written those words, it seems like it's to cleanse the guilt. In a way, the guidelines pave the way to make gamblers feel safer while losing money.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Viscore on February 04, 2023, 08:59:06 PM
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Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Or it is the casino's disclaimer that they are not responsible for anything bad that can happen to you because you are gambling like a shithead.

Sure, on the flipside, reminders like these denotes a positive tone, however you can't be sure if these entities actually cares to some random dude playing on their website. At the end of the day, their goal is to make money by providing some sort of entertainment where gamblers can enjoy.
It’s obvious that they don’t want to be blame if gamblers will resort into gambling addiction and lose everything they have. Because if they really care, once gamblers are making consistent losses, then they should put limits to it and these gamblers should not be allowed to gambler more. But it’s clear that casinos even come out with more bonuses and rewards so that gamblers will be more interested to bet more hoping they can still chase their losses and win a good amount this time.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: goaldigger on February 04, 2023, 09:09:43 PM

They promote responsible gambling and encourage players to spend within thier means. Very ironic but these casinos also provide hotline for users with a gambling problems.  

While I believe they have written those words, it seems like it's to cleanse the guilt. In a way, the guidelines pave the way to make gamblers feel safer while losing money.
They are regulates so they have to play this role for them to qualify for the license, casinos have to do this so they can attract more gamblers and protect their players where they can get benefit on this, a responsible gamblers will always benefit the site because the house will always win. There’s no site that wants you to get addict, because you became liability to them, having their specific department to handle this issue a good one for the site, they have to do this for the benefit of both parties.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: swogerino on February 04, 2023, 09:20:10 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

The following are some of the responsible gambling guidelines I found on Livecasino.io (https://livecasino.io/en/help-center/help-your-account/responsible-gaming), Duelbits (https://duelbits.com/responsible-gambling), TrustDice (https://trustdice.win/responsible-gaming), and others. They all have the same idea.

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- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

 Any thoughts?

Every major casino has this section.However it is not the casino responsibility to teach you responsible gambling but instead they give you some guidelines to follow for your own good and if you follow them you won't get addicted.This is from international laws and jurisdiction where these casinos are located.In the end each of these casinos is only complying with the law required by them and they are forced to have a section of responsible gaming in their website.

Personally I think that it is anyone responsibility to play and gamble responsible and that the casino does not play any role here,in fact the casino is just like any other business,they are here to maximize profit and they should not care much what each one of do as it is not their responsibility what we do from our actions.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: DoublerHunter on February 04, 2023, 09:42:24 PM
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Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Or it is the casino's disclaimer that they are not responsible for anything bad that can happen to you because you are gambling like a shithead.

Sure, on the flipside, reminders like these denotes a positive tone, however you can't be sure if these entities actually cares to some random dude playing on their website. At the end of the day, their goal is to make money by providing some sort of entertainment where gamblers can enjoy.
It’s obvious that they don’t want to be blame if gamblers will resort into gambling addiction and lose everything they have. Because if they really care, once gamblers are making consistent losses, then they should put limits to it and these gamblers should not be allowed to gambler more. But it’s clear that casinos even come out with more bonuses and rewards so that gamblers will be more interested to bet more hoping they can still chase their losses and win a good amount this time.
^Definitely right and this was probably the main reason for them, they don't want to blame someone addicted because of them. But still business is for business with them, no matter what it is, it always matters how they will get profit from us and that is how gambling casinos will survive on their business. As we can see, there are many gambling casinos that pop up every year here, how many of them become successful, if they don't get profit from us did you think they will survive? I think they will not.
This story is the same for cigarettes, as they always remind people of (Government Warning: Cigarette smoking is dangerous to your health) but yet people still smoke and buying cigarettes.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: acroman08 on February 04, 2023, 09:49:16 PM
I don't know about you but from what I have seen, they could care less if you lose money. the fact that they've designed bonus promotions to try and bring back gamblers that have lost money on their gambling site and entice them to gamble again and hopefully continue gambling shows you that they could care less if you have lost money. also, the "gamble responsibly" you see is most likely part of the regulation that they'd have to follow.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: crzy on February 04, 2023, 09:52:26 PM
I don't know about you but from what I have seen, they could care less if you lose money. the fact that they've designed bonus promotions to try and bring back gamblers that have lost money on their gambling site and entice them to gamble again and hopefully continue gambling shows you that they could care less if you have lost money. also, the "gamble responsibly" you see is most likely part of the regulation that they'd have to follow.
Some site are too focus on their possible profit and didn’t care that much if you lose with greed or addiction, but we are talking about the good site here who are encouraging their players to be more responsible and gamble moderately which I think is a good strategy. This might be part of the regulation but some site are taking this seriously because they truly care, try to read the terms and conditions or other FAQ about the site you’re playing with, you might see this one as well.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: FanEagle on February 04, 2023, 09:59:09 PM
I think casinos would love it if you lose the money you could afford to lose. They rather you not sell your house to bet, that would be a stupid move and not a great way to gamble. However, they certainly do not want you to win neither, that would be bad for business and they rather you lose.

It means that there is this sweet spot where you lose your money to them, and they gladly take it, and not really ruin your entire life because of it. They probably want that much, but if push come to shove, they rather you sell your house to gamble over a possibility of you winning, because you being in terrible situation is still better than them being in a terrible situation. Which, I can understand, they are a business and they need a profit.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Oilacris on February 04, 2023, 10:06:23 PM

 Any thoughts?
I dont believe that they would really be that too in concern and those guidelines and cautions or warnings are really just showing off that they are really that mindful or having the sympathize into those

people who do lost up soo much money.We know on where these gambling platforms or companies do make money which is into those losing gamblers which it would be normal that they would really be that happy when it comes to see those people who do lost up that much.Im not saying that they are all like that but who do knows if someone is really that having a concern.
In most case which i do see that these are just cover ups just for them to make it look good into other peoples eyes that they do care.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Saint-loup on February 04, 2023, 10:29:51 PM
I dont believe that they would really be that too in concern and those guidelines and cautions or warnings are really just showing off that they are really that mindful or having the sympathize into those people who do lost up soo much money.We know on where these gambling platforms or companies do make money which is into those losing gamblers which it would be normal that they would really be that happy when it comes to see those people who do lost up that much.Im not saying that they are all like that but who do knows if someone is really that having a concern.
In most case which i do see that these are just cover ups just for them to make it look good into other peoples eyes that they do care.
I agree with you, in land based casinos, they won't let you play if they see you're too much drunk, they could lose their license if they are doing that but online casinos don't check that and allow anybody in any condition playing large amounts of money. If they really care about that they could make few tests and ask few questions before each gambling session.

It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling.
I don't understand why it's logical according to you and why they are unable to assess gambling addiction of their customers.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: dothebeats on February 04, 2023, 10:33:28 PM
I don't know about you but from what I have seen, they could care less if you lose money. the fact that they've designed bonus promotions to try and bring back gamblers that have lost money on their gambling site and entice them to gamble again and hopefully continue gambling shows you that they could care less if you have lost money. also, the "gamble responsibly" you see is most likely part of the regulation that they'd have to follow.

Kinda reminds me of cigarettes. Their ads on every packet which states that cigarette smoking is a health hazard doesn't really deter the smoker, nor the manufacturers want the smoker to stop smoking. It's there because of regulations, and those that are into deep won't really think twice before lighting another stick. Also, these cigarette companies would still create a marketing gimmick that states that their cigarettes taste better than ever and all that type of stuff just to keep the smoker hooked. It really is no different honestly.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: chaser15 on February 04, 2023, 10:59:26 PM
That's already a normal scene where casinos are putting disclaimers about what to expect from gambling. It's like other "sin activities" where there's always associated advice or something that reminds their clients/users not to push on the limit.

It's good to see that they are pointing out how to be a responsible gambler.

But in general, we should already know that during gambling, we should always stay responsible and have no need for any advice.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: GxSTxV on February 04, 2023, 11:08:53 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

The following are some of the responsible gambling guidelines I found on Livecasino.io (https://livecasino.io/en/help-center/help-your-account/responsible-gaming), Duelbits (https://duelbits.com/responsible-gambling), TrustDice (https://trustdice.win/responsible-gaming), and others. They all have the same idea.

Quote
- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

 Any thoughts?
I believe that’s something any casino is obligated to do in first place and give advices to gamblers, it’s the enhanced picture of Cigarette packets where they say smoking kills and all other warnings about it but logically if every person listen to that warning there will be no cigarette factories and no smokers.
Surely there is respectful casinos where they care about people and wish everyone know how to gamble in a responsible way, as there’s casinos that even scam their users. We just need to pick the good casinos and enjoy responsibly. Since the casino’s support team will be working more hours trying to explain for irresponsible gamblers that they can’t help them with the funds they lost while gambling.
Not forgetting that half accusations of scam against casinos are made by people that are addicted to gambling and gamble in a bad way so whenever they lose big amount of money they start complaining and open cases against the casino 


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: harizen on February 04, 2023, 11:49:24 PM
I don't take that advice of them as a big deal. Regardless, that line of statement is always expected at most gambling sites.

They care for their users' money but I don't believe that's even their concern and priority to start with.

Business is business. It's no different from other product warnings.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: goinmerry on February 04, 2023, 11:56:26 PM
I was surprised that someone put an emphasis on those gambling responsibly tips on the site where in the fact, it's just a normal thing that those advice needs to show as these businesses are in the gambling industry. Maybe that was even part of the things that their license providers asked them to do.

It's good to see that these gambling sites are doing that but we should not take it seriously to the point that we should think that the casino is taking care of us.  It's just a matter that they need to advise their users but why the hell they should care if we lose or not? :)


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Vaskiy on February 04, 2023, 11:58:47 PM
I don't take that advice of them as a big deal. Regardless, that line of statement is always expected at most gambling sites.

They care for their users' money but I don't believe that's even their concern and priority to start with.

Business is business. It's no different from other product warnings.
Agreed, they care for the users money and they want their users to have a safer gamble. This safer gamble in my understanding seems to be without much loss. Only then the user doesn't feel down and continue to gamble. As said, end of the day it is business. We don't know whether this has been added on concern or just for the purpose of reminding the users about the risk.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: noormcs5 on February 04, 2023, 11:59:21 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.


Why would gambling casino's would want that the gamblers become responsible ?

Also gambling sites may never care if gambler is losing his hard earned money, the money he can't afford to lose. They want gamblers to put each and everything in gambling and the motive of gambling sites is to get maximum deposits and wagering by the players.

The following are some of the responsible gambling guidelines I found on Livecasino.io (https://livecasino.io/en/help-center/help-your-account/responsible-gaming), Duelbits (https://duelbits.com/responsible-gambling), TrustDice (https://trustdice.win/responsible-gaming), and others. They all have the same idea.

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- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

 Any thoughts?


Well, this is true that trust dice and few other have mentioned this on their site but i think this is done just for formality. They will never stop gamblers from doing this. If they were serious, would site implement such features that in case of excessive losses, the site disables the gamblers ability to gamble so that they can't chase loses. Or they may limit wagering / betting on daily basis, but they never implement these feature. They only want people to wager extensively and lose money in gambling.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Silberman on February 05, 2023, 12:13:36 AM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

The following are some of the responsible gambling guidelines I found on Livecasino.io (https://livecasino.io/en/help-center/help-your-account/responsible-gaming), Duelbits (https://duelbits.com/responsible-gambling), TrustDice (https://trustdice.win/responsible-gaming), and others. They all have the same idea.

Quote
- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

 Any thoughts?
Casinos do enjoy watching people lose money at their casino because that means they are getting profits, what they do not like is people ruining their lives and losing everything to them, and while this may come from a humanitarian motivation the most obvious reason is that this is bad for their business, as it is because those people we have regulations that are so harsh and if anything they force them to put in place all kind of measures which the majority of the gamblers do not need and will never use.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Bitinity on February 05, 2023, 12:56:14 AM
Regardless casinos do really care about this thing, the most important thing for us as players is just to gamble responsibly. Even if casinos do not have this in their website, we should responsible for ourselves. For me warning in any products/services is just a formality, it is created because of regulation, it can be regulation by the government, licenses, or any other related department.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Hispo on February 05, 2023, 01:58:56 AM
It would also make sense casinos prefer their gamblers to wager responsibly, because in the long term a responsible gambler can continue to come back and keep gambling on their platforms.

On the other hand, someone who is gambling compulsively will end up losing all their money very quickly and it will degenerate into problems that will make more difficult to keep a job as source of income.

Does anyone agree?


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: lienfaye on February 05, 2023, 03:54:54 AM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.
Casino is a business and in order for them to profit they need gamblers to play on their platform and spend money, the higher the better, because that's how their business work.

They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up.
The guidelines are similar to alcohol and cigarette advertisement. They're reminding the customers to drink moderately and for cigarettes they're saying it is dangerous, but still keep on selling it despite of the harm that it can cause. It just depends on the people patronizing it on how they will let these products affect them. In gambling if you gamble and play in moderation you won't get a serious problem. I believe the casino has no moral obligation since they're not forcing you to play, it's your own will.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on February 05, 2023, 05:33:02 AM
    -   Honestly, I don't know if I would be happy with a casino telling their gamblers like that, what do they mean gamble responsibly? In the eyes of the majority of the community in the world, gambling is not good and it does not bring anything good to the majority of gamblers.

Then it's true what some people said here that the casino is a business, that's the aim of that is the more that many gamblers deposit on their gambling platform, that's their profit. They have no losers because most of the time their house edge wins and if someone wins big that's only 1 in a million among the many gamblers who always lose, is this the gamble responsibly the one you always lose?


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: BobK71 on February 05, 2023, 06:08:14 AM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

The following are some of the responsible gambling guidelines I found on Livecasino.io (https://livecasino.io/en/help-center/help-your-account/responsible-gaming), Duelbits (https://duelbits.com/responsible-gambling), TrustDice (https://trustdice.win/responsible-gaming), and others. They all have the same idea.

Quote
- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

 Any thoughts?
I support your opinion. Online sites Commonly prefer responsible gamblers. Because they know that some gamblers manage to gamble well for a few days but they cannot survive in the long run. As a result, the casino site is relatively give the less important to those clients. A gambler should balance both his betting amount and bankroll. Betting more than you are prepared to lose never falls under responsible gambling. Again many gamblers try their best to recover their lost money which can be one of the causes of losses.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 05, 2023, 06:45:03 AM
That is a recommendation from the casino for people before they register at the casino. Still, I don't think that those people will take the time to read but will register immediately so they can immediately deposit their money and play gambling games. Casinos provide advice like that because they have a responsibility to gamblers even though it will return to each gambler. If a gambler can be wise in gambling, he will not spend too much money, let alone use money that exceeds the limit. He will manage his money to gamble and will stop when he feels he has had enough gambling.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: davis196 on February 05, 2023, 06:46:48 AM
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I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

1.Are you kidding me? Every casino wants gamblers, who constantly keep losing and losing money. That's the "meat and bread" of the gambling business. Every gambling business owner, who states that he wants more responsible/moderate gamblers and less gambling addicts to play in his casino is simply lying.
2.For me, responsible gambling is implemented by some casinos because of two things:
-Maybe such "gamble responsibly" disclaimers are required by the laws and regulations in some countries.
-This is just another PR marketing gimmick, which has the sole purpose to make the casinos look more legit.
By the way, the tips mentioned at the bottom of your forum thread are really good. Gambling is entertainment, gambling is not a way to make easy money and/or get rich quick.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on February 05, 2023, 09:39:47 AM
Any thoughts?

I believe that such advice comes more from regulation than self-imposed, although people running casinos are humans after all and while I don't doubt that there are those who put money above all else, there will also be those who care about the welfare of the customer.

1.Are you kidding me? Every casino wants gamblers, who constantly keep losing and losing money. That's the "meat and bread" of the gambling business. Every gambling business owner, who states that he wants more responsible/moderate gamblers and less gambling addicts to play in his casino is simply lying.

Yes, well, I understand you in part, but it is as if you were saying that all beverage manufacturers would prefer everyone to be alcoholic in order to increase their sales, and I think that is far from the truth.

2.For me, responsible gambling is implemented by some casinos because of two things:
-Maybe such "gamble responsibly" disclaimers are required by the laws and regulations in some countries.
-This is just another PR marketing gimmick, which has the sole purpose to make the casinos look more legit.
By the way, the tips mentioned at the bottom of your forum thread are really good. Gambling is entertainment, gambling is not a way to make easy money and/or get rich quick.

I also partly agree. I mentioned the first point above, but the PR strategy had not occurred to me.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Russlenat on February 05, 2023, 09:50:23 AM
That is a recommendation from the casino for people before they register at the casino. Still, I don't think that those people will take the time to read but will register immediately so they can immediately deposit their money and play gambling games. Casinos provide advice like that because they have a responsibility to gamblers even though it will return to each gambler. If a gambler can be wise in gambling, he will not spend too much money, let alone use money that exceeds the limit. He will manage his money to gamble and will stop when he feels he has had enough gambling.
IMO, it's not necessary to read because if you are a responsible person, you already know the risk of gambling, and of course the possibility of what will happen to you if you will not gamble responsibly. A good example of irresponsible gamblers is those gamblers who are having big debts because they can't control their addiction, and eventually, they'll become homeless.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: aioc on February 05, 2023, 10:21:54 AM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.
I don't think so if they really are they would stop the gambler from losing more, by restricting their account, but many of these casinos don't care, they don't have a limit on what a gambler can wage.

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I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test
I'm sure they will not ask all their gamblers to do KYC and undergo a professional assessment and submit the result so they can continue gambling on their platform.


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The following are some of the responsible gambling guidelines I found on Livecasino.io (https://livecasino.io/en/help-center/help-your-account/responsible-gaming), Duelbits (https://duelbits.com/responsible-gambling), TrustDice (https://trustdice.win/responsible-gaming), and others. They all have the same idea
- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

These are all just advice casinos still leave on the gambler's decision how much they want to gamble and how long they want to gamble, they really can't control the actions of their players and that's something that benefit them, you gamble they profit.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: QueenVera on February 05, 2023, 10:45:08 AM
Yeah you're right mate and I really don't think that casinos really want to see their players fail because the more the players fail, the more people will turn against their company.
Most times greed is a major factor that leads to loss and if a casino can point out all of this caution to people, then I don't think they really wan to see their players fail.
Chasing after losses is another major problem and without mixing words, it's one of the major epidemic in gambling as people now gamble with money they can't afford to loss and when the losses comes, they now Begin to chase after those losses which in most cases always has a negative return.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Betwrong on February 05, 2023, 11:07:32 AM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.

Casinos have their house edge, and that's how they make money: the more people wager on their platform, the more the casinos earn. They don't care whether you are losing or winning as long as you are wagering. And, of course, they don't enjoy someone losing much more than he/she can afford to lose. It can potentially create troubles for a particular casino and gambling industry in general. No one needs that. So, contrary to popular belief, casinos are not interested in people losing all their money to them. Casinos want to see responsible gamblers on their platforms, not some gambling addicts.   


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: danherbias07 on February 05, 2023, 02:06:33 PM
I agree, it's on the gambler's side on how he can manage his game.
This is also why I don't fully sympathize with those who are blaming it all on the online gambling site. Like the one story that came out here telling that one gambling site still keeps on mailing him about events and promotions while he is trying to come out from his gambling addiction.
It's on him to try other things to escape fully from that service. He could always make a new e-mail or just leave it there and never open it again.
It's his mistake in the first place for using that e-mail for his bad habits while others use a dummy mail.
Anyway, I do believe they don't really like people who got deep into their gambling addiction as it will also create some problems on their side.
That's why every time they make advertisements, the gamble responsibly is glued into it.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: dimonstration on February 05, 2023, 02:17:50 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.

Casinos have their house edge, and that's how they make money: the more people wager on their platform, the more the casinos earn. They don't care whether you are losing or winning as long as you are wagering.


I disagree on this because casino will lose part of their bank roll if players keeps winning because house edge is just a small portion of someone bet. Are you telling that if a player is consistently winning 1million usd per bet is still alright with them because they can get assuming 1% house edge on that winning amount because you said that they will keep being in profit win or lose?

Casino gets most of their profit on players that losing their bankroll. House edge is just their way to increase chance of winning against of players but doesn’t mean that they are immune to losses because of this house edge. Casino can keep up their profit because some players is losing to compensate someone profit while they get house edge profit either way. There’s no way for them to be in profit if the majority of players is in profit.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: YOSHIE on February 05, 2023, 02:41:36 PM
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- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.
Maybe, from one side there are positive and good, responsible warnings are published by online casinos to their users, good, if users are aware of this, but the facts on the ground are not like that, many cases of users using their savings or selling property to gamble, hope to double their money, because many users are greedy and ambitious in betting.

They are aware, without the warning users know about it, but due to other negative factors, so many users who bet on online casinos ignore it, they close their eyes because they have been covered in great lust.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: noorman0 on February 05, 2023, 02:48:25 PM
It's just a default warning page that most regulated casinos will probably have to publish specifically whether they like it or not. But let's take the middle point, the casinos will stick to the company and don't want them to be dragged into the personal problems of their customers due to uncontrolled gambling. Having a dedicated page on responsible-play means casinos can safely do business on their own terms.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Falconer on February 05, 2023, 03:04:55 PM
It seems like an obligation to keep gamblers to be responsible gamblers even though the industry expects to profit from losing gamblers.
Casinos know very well that there are many gamblers who will be addicted even they know that some gamblers will not be able to control themselves and their urge to gamble. So while some of us don't think it's necessary for casinos and the industry to warn their gamblers to be responsible gamblers, I think it's one thing so in the end the casinos are not to blame.

I've seen this in few casinos so it's only natural for casinos to hold gamblers to be responsible for their betting decisions and how they play. In fact, this may have been required of the casino as rule that must be read by its customers.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 05, 2023, 03:43:23 PM
Casinos always want players not to stop going to their casinos, so of course a type of defense mechanism can be activated for this, in fact I don't remember in which thread I read it here in the forum where there are some casinos that have a option of being able to pre-rot your players, that an option is activated when they see that they are playing a lot and losing everything, where they warn them to only bet a certain amount of money and if they lose, they should not bet more, that caught my attention and I told myself that That casino or the casinos that have that option are truly excellent with their customers. I think that if all casinos had that, it would be ideal, a protection system to prevent players from becoming addicted.



Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Reid on February 05, 2023, 04:06:06 PM
Probably. Although there had been issues with physical casinos in regards with the places where they built their establishments. Most of them are near a place where there are more poor people. I don't know if that is true though. But about online casinos, I don't think they want us staying online 24/7 and just gambling our lives away. That's not healthy and it will reflect on our bets which are not thoroughly thought about. That is not entertainment anymore, that is a habit that will be difficult to erase.
Chasing losses is what makes one gambler stay for longer periods. Because online sites are easy to access they won't be able to sleep unless they get it back.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: madnessteat on February 05, 2023, 04:19:22 PM
Casinos always want players not to stop going to their casinos, so of course a type of defense mechanism can be activated for this, in fact I don't remember in which thread I read it here in the forum where there are some casinos that have a option of being able to pre-rot your players, that an option is activated when they see that they are playing a lot and losing everything, where they warn them to only bet a certain amount of money and if they lose, they should not bet more, that caught my attention and I told myself that That casino or the casinos that have that option are truly excellent with their customers. I think that if all casinos had that, it would be ideal, a protection system to prevent players from becoming addicted.



I think it is very important to learn to control yourself, rather than putting the responsibility on the casino. Man who can not control himself may spend all his money outside the casino, for example, in a bar, a party or elsewhere.

In my opinion, no casino feature is not capable of stopping a gambler who is trying to win back his losses, because he can easily bypass the system and simply move to another casino.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: goldkingcoiner on February 05, 2023, 05:18:35 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.
~Snip
 Any thoughts?

I think they do want their "customers" to remain happy so that they will keep coming back. Although casinos, just like any other business care about their profits more than anything else. Which can be morally right or morally wrong, depending on the different perspectives. But they do need to make money if they wish to survive as a business, thats a fact.

But I do believe that they would not want to do anything that might anger their customers. Obviously, making sure their customers participate in responsible gambling is part of that.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: South Park on February 05, 2023, 06:45:15 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.
~Snip
 Any thoughts?

I think they do want their "customers" to remain happy so that they will keep coming back. Although casinos, just like any other business care about their profits more than anything else. Which can be morally right or morally wrong, depending on the different perspectives. But they do need to make money if they wish to survive as a business, thats a fact.

But I do believe that they would not want to do anything that might anger their customers. Obviously, making sure their customers participate in responsible gambling is part of that.
The business model of casinos is very straightforward, they offer a service and they earn money with it, however unlike the majority of the services where we can hire a person we can have a sense of loss after gambling, a sense of loss which is not there when you hire a plumber for example, then casinos need to strike a balance between getting as much money as possible from the clients and at the same time to keep those same clients happy, and in a way this explains all the bonuses casinos are willing to giveaway to diminish those negative feelings.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: TimeTeller on February 05, 2023, 07:03:55 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.
~Snip
 Any thoughts?

I think they do want their "customers" to remain happy so that they will keep coming back. Although casinos, just like any other business care about their profits more than anything else. Which can be morally right or morally wrong, depending on the different perspectives. But they do need to make money if they wish to survive as a business, thats a fact.

But I do believe that they would not want to do anything that might anger their customers. Obviously, making sure their customers participate in responsible gambling is part of that.

They are placing those reminders as default reminders to the players.
It is like a friendly reminder to the gamblers so they won't be too hard to the casino if in case something goes awry.
So it seems they want to take care of their players by being mindful of what they do.
But of course, let's accept the fact that casinos want to earn profits and more.
As a gambler, it is still on your hands how you will contain yourself when you are already playing.
Casinos can't do anything about your gambling activities, however, if you self-exclude yourself, that's when casinos can interfere your gambling habits.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: swogerino on February 05, 2023, 07:10:00 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.
~Snip
 Any thoughts?

I think they do want their "customers" to remain happy so that they will keep coming back. Although casinos, just like any other business care about their profits more than anything else. Which can be morally right or morally wrong, depending on the different perspectives. But they do need to make money if they wish to survive as a business, thats a fact.

But I do believe that they would not want to do anything that might anger their customers. Obviously, making sure their customers participate in responsible gambling is part of that.

They are placing those reminders as default reminders to the players.
It is like a friendly reminder to the gamblers so they won't be too hard to the casino.
So it seems they want to take care of their players by being mindful of what they do.
But of course, let's accept the fact that casinos want to earn profits and more.

Again the casinos are forced by the law to implement a section of their website to talk about gambling responsibly,haven't you guys seen a lot of ads in TV-s,mostly on channels that stream soccer games that during the 15 minutes break between the half time and full time we get bombarded with a lot of gambling and casino ads and they all end in the same way,either be gamble aware either gamble responsibly.This is forced by the governments of such countries and even in online casinos they have to deal with the country that they have the license from to operate.In the end a casino is a business and they don't care that much if you go broke as long as they are achieving their final goal which is maximizing profit.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Wakate on February 05, 2023, 07:38:44 PM
The business model of casinos is very straightforward, they offer a service and they earn money with it, however unlike the majority of the services where we can hire a person we can have a sense of loss after gambling, a sense of loss which is not there when you hire a plumber for example, then casinos need to strike a balance between getting as much money as possible from the clients and at the same time to keep those same clients happy, and in a way this explains all the bonuses casinos are willing to giveaway to diminish those negative feelings.
The business model is as simple as you have explained. They give out a product for you to buy and then make sure that you are satisfied with the product whether you are winning or losing. They make sure that even though you are making loses, the few bonuses are available to you to keep going and keep gambling.
 They make there money from the product you buy and if you keep winning that is fine but they will balance that from others who might be having a bad time with the way they handle the product. It ether you play man's you win or you play and you lose, two things involve.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: redsun114 on February 05, 2023, 08:26:40 PM
That's true. Not all of them are too cruel and want's gamblers to lose more money for their own gain but some are kind and care too about their customers. That is why they gave a warning or a reminder if a gambler is already gambling excessively. They can also offer exclusion and lastly, they can do some donations. It's only sad that there are still gamblers who can't follow all those guidelines and got carried away by the hype cause of gambling.

At the end, casinos are still being blamed which are wrong and this why they got a bad reputation over time when they are only intention at the first place is to provide another form of entertainment to the public.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: lionheart78 on February 05, 2023, 08:32:05 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.

Online casino is a business so people losing money means profit for the platform.  When there is profit from a legit business, even though people are losing money, I believe online casino are happy.

I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them.

I do not think so, I believe they put responsible gambling on their site to comply with the regulation and at the same time reminds players about it.

They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

I believe more than a moral obligation but legal obligation to make reponsible gambling available in their service tool.

Any thoughts?

Self-discipline is the key coupled with knowledge on risk managment and financial management.

That's true. Not all of them are too cruel and want's gamblers to lose more money for their own gain but some are kind and care too about their customers. That is why they gave a warning or a reminder if a gambler is already gambling excessively. They can also offer exclusion and lastly, they can do some donations. It's only sad that there are still gamblers who can't follow all those guidelines and got carried away by the hype cause of gambling.

At the end, casinos are still being blamed which are wrong and this why they got a bad reputation over time when they are only intention at the first place is to provide another form of entertainment to the public.

I agree, it is not the casinos fault why people are having financial difficulty.  It is the lack of discipline and knowledge on bankroll managment that makes people suffer huge losses.  The casinos are just offering their services it is up to the gambling on how he will use them.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: darewaller on February 05, 2023, 09:15:35 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.
Casinos have their house edge, and that's how they make money: the more people wager on their platform, the more the casinos earn. They don't care whether you are losing or winning as long as you are wagering. And, of course, they don't enjoy someone losing much more than he/she can afford to lose. It can potentially create troubles for a particular casino and gambling industry in general. No one needs that. So, contrary to popular belief, casinos are not interested in people losing all their money to them. Casinos want to see responsible gamblers on their platforms, not some gambling addicts.   
I think I already saw a crypto casino which doesn't have a house edge on them and there are also casino whose house edge is so tiny. Maybe these types of casinos are the ones who cares the most to their players. They still can earn in other ways like by putting some advertisements on their site. The players can also voluntarily click on it to help increase the earnings of that site.

Casinos can earn through house edges and that is why they offer different forms of bonuses and as well as other features which can make the gambler come back on their site to wager/play more. They do care of course when someone wins because it's a loss for them.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: harizen on February 05, 2023, 10:56:49 PM
I think that if all casinos had that, it would be ideal, a protection system to prevent players from becoming addicted.

Self-exclusion, like the service offered in Stake. It's a program to help that involved user to stay away from the site.

However, it's only Stake-related stuff obviously that the user will be able to avoid but with lots of gambling sites around, the temptation is always there.

For me, no need for such programs or advice from gambling sites if only we know how to control ourselves and try our best to become responsible, as always.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: STT on February 05, 2023, 11:55:11 PM
Not sure its about enjoy or not, just about avoiding damaging a market of players and the prospect of regular gambling.  Someone blowing their budget is not good for them or ultimately the long term usage and prospects of that sites revenue.   There is probably a mutual benefit to ensuring players dont over cook their gambling, its my basic advice that its best to stay regular not chase wins or pursue a loss expecting it'll turn around on that particular session imo just come back another time is best policy so session limits is good practice.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: goinmerry on February 05, 2023, 11:58:18 PM
That's true. Not all of them are too cruel and want's gamblers to lose more money for their own gain but some are kind and care too about their customers.

I don't think that the usual disclaimer or advice we see on casinos to gamble responsibly is really caring about their customers.

It's just that, it's mandatory to put that disclaimer as these are gambling companies.

If casinos do really take care of their customer's money, you should see lots of limit-activity programs on the site. Don't be blinded that the casinos are worried about their users losing money if you see those gambling responsibly advice posted on their sites.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Hispo on February 06, 2023, 01:36:06 AM
I think that if all casinos had that, it would be ideal, a protection system to prevent players from becoming addicted.

Self-exclusion, like the service offered in Stake. It's a program to help that involved user to stay away from the site.

Ironically enough, self-exclusion programs only work if the gambler acknowledges there is a problem or something bad going on with their gambling habits, which at the same time requires a minimum of self-awareness.

Casinos cannot assume whether their gamblers are responsible or not, because it is not practical from their point of view and their business are not watching over the finances of grown up adults. It is also a question of will and freedom and not only responsibility.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 06, 2023, 06:19:30 AM
That is a recommendation from the casino for people before they register at the casino. Still, I don't think that those people will take the time to read but will register immediately so they can immediately deposit their money and play gambling games. Casinos provide advice like that because they have a responsibility to gamblers even though it will return to each gambler. If a gambler can be wise in gambling, he will not spend too much money, let alone use money that exceeds the limit. He will manage his money to gamble and will stop when he feels he has had enough gambling.
IMO, it's not necessary to read because if you are a responsible person, you already know the risk of gambling, and of course the possibility of what will happen to you if you will not gamble responsibly. A good example of irresponsible gamblers is those gamblers who are having big debts because they can't control their addiction, and eventually, they'll become homeless.
But we know that many people can't be responsible when they play gambling and don't read the TOS or even the casino's advice, making them use a lot of money and experience big losses. For gamblers who already know that, they can skip it and not read it but if they also can't be responsible with themselves and their money, it won't be of any use either.

In this case, we cannot blame the casinos for what happened to us because of our lack of self-control in gambling. The casino will argue that those who gamble have lost self-control even though the casino has informed them that everyone must be properly responsible while gambling and must treat gambling as entertainment.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: BenCodie on February 06, 2023, 07:15:54 AM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

The following are some of the responsible gambling guidelines I found on Livecasino.io (https://livecasino.io/en/help-center/help-your-account/responsible-gaming), Duelbits (https://duelbits.com/responsible-gambling), TrustDice (https://trustdice.win/responsible-gaming), and others. They all have the same idea.

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- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

 Any thoughts?

In my opinion, a gambler who is surpassing leisure in any way will completely skip over these words and continue to violate them. Providing these services and putting these words here is ironic at best. I guess it's better to have them than to not for the sake of their business than to not though.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: passwordnow on February 06, 2023, 07:29:22 AM
Another one is those people that borrow money to gamble. They are not responsible as they can't even gamble with what they have and want to do more with others' money as a result of their addiction and losing self-control.

In this case, we cannot blame the casinos for what happened to us because of our lack of self-control in gambling. The casino will argue that those who gamble have lost self-control even though the casino has informed them that everyone must be properly responsible while gambling and must treat gambling as entertainment.
The casinos have always been reminding and giving the option for each gambler to continue or not. We're all free to do and continue gambling if we want to and they've done their part of reminding everyone.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Oasisman on February 06, 2023, 08:53:23 AM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population.

 Any thoughts?
I thought differently. Casinos would love to see people lossing their money, because that means a good profit for them. Well, no matter how many times a user wins, if he's not gonna stop betting while he still has the winning money, he'll end up lossing eventually.
The only responsibility that an online gambling is more concern of, is keeping their reputation clean by being fair all the time.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: AmoreJaz on February 06, 2023, 09:10:24 AM
Another one is those people that borrow money to gamble. They are not responsible as they can't even gamble with what they have and want to do more with others' money as a result of their addiction and losing self-control.

In this case, we cannot blame the casinos for what happened to us because of our lack of self-control in gambling. The casino will argue that those who gamble have lost self-control even though the casino has informed them that everyone must be properly responsible while gambling and must treat gambling as entertainment.
The casinos have always been reminding and giving the option for each gambler to continue or not. We're all free to do and continue gambling if we want to and they've done their part of reminding everyone.

the reminder is there as part of their compliance to their license. even if they want their players to lose, still they are required to put those statements regarding gambling responsibly stuffs. that's part of getting their license. just the regular reminder from the authorities towards gambling activities. so whether the gambler abide such reminder or not, it doesn't matter to the casino. because at the end of the day, it is yourself who is in control of your gambling activities. the casino won't stop you from playing.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: xSkylarx on February 06, 2023, 09:56:04 AM
In this case, we cannot blame the casinos for what happened to us because of our lack of self-control in gambling. The casino will argue that those who gamble have lost self-control even though the casino has informed them that everyone must be properly responsible while gambling and must treat gambling as entertainment.
The casinos have always been reminding and giving the option for each gambler to continue or not. We're all free to do and continue gambling if we want to and they've done their part of reminding everyone.

it is also part of their terms and condition and permission to operate , but again it is always in our hands how do we control our selves even if they are not reminding us it is still in our self to blame if we got addicted that is why we need to control in terms of gambling. Reminding those gamblers are very essential also as it can trigger our mind about the bad aspects or outcome of gambling and made our self think twice unlike without this we do it without hesitation


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Plaguedeath on February 06, 2023, 11:18:21 AM
the reminder is there as part of their compliance to their license. even if they want their players to lose, still they are required to put those statements regarding gambling responsibly stuffs. that's part of getting their license. just the regular reminder from the authorities towards gambling activities. so whether the gambler abide such reminder or not, it doesn't matter to the casino. because at the end of the day, it is yourself who is in control of your gambling activities. the casino won't stop you from playing.
The same applies with self exclusion, they're offering this feature in order to complete the regulation and license, there's no solid statement too about how long the account will be locked, I've remember someone can open his account after 1 week, but another one need 1 year and it's from the same casino.

The casino have no way to know how much is the money you can afford to lose and your monthly paycheck, except they've asked you to complete KYC verification. If the casino is care with the gambler, they need to lock the account when the gambler exceed average lose in some period of time.

Example:
1 day: -$1,000
1 week: -$5,000
1 month: -$200,000


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: len01 on February 06, 2023, 11:54:45 AM
I thought differently. Casinos would love to see people lossing their money, because that means a good profit for them. Well, no matter how many times a user wins, if he's not gonna stop betting while he still has the winning money, he'll end up lossing eventually.
The only responsibility that an online gambling is more concern of, is keeping their reputation clean by being fair all the time.
I slightly disagree with your statement.
casinos are gambling companies that want their companies to make profits but at least the gambling companies also don't want people to be too crazy to give those profits out of control. Other companies apart from gambling also want profits, such as tobacco companies that want profit income from the business they are running but also don't want everyone to get sick from smoking. so the company gives a warning smoking is not good.

so it's the same as a gambling company that wants to get income from the business that has been established but also doesn't want its customers to be irresponsible in betting and lose all the money they have.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Strongkored on February 06, 2023, 12:03:20 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.
During a pandemic, one of the businesses that made the most profit was a business that provided everything for funerals, but I'm sure they weren't happy about the deaths of many people at that time although the business will benefit greatly because of it, so I agree that gambling sites don't like losing gamblers, even though they are benefit from it but seeing responsible gamblers will be more like it because they will also avoid accusations of cheating because irresponsible gamblers sometimes they feel cheated for a loss.


Any thoughts?
Indeed, many say just to do gambling because it's just for fun, but it's not easy, especially if players always think about being able to profit, so pleasure will only be obtained even if we lose, if we use the money we can afford to lose.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: ultrloa on February 06, 2023, 12:11:32 PM
I thought differently. Casinos would love to see people lossing their money, because that means a good profit for them. Well, no matter how many times a user wins, if he's not gonna stop betting while he still has the winning money, he'll end up lossing eventually.
The only responsibility that an online gambling is more concern of, is keeping their reputation clean by being fair all the time.
I slightly disagree with your statement.
casinos are gambling companies that want their companies to make profits but at least the gambling companies also don't want people to be too crazy to give those profits out of control. Other companies apart from gambling also want profits, such as tobacco companies that want profit income from the business they are running but also don't want everyone to get sick from smoking. so the company gives a warning smoking is not good.

so it's the same as a gambling company that wants to get income from the business that has been established but also doesn't want its customers to be irresponsible in betting and lose all the money they have.

Not actually because we don't know the owners and for most provably they are not running a business to take care someones welfare. Businessman always think about their profit so they spend a lot of money on marketing to convince people to play on their casino so for that they are aiming for their own gain that's why house always have the advantage because this is made for their own profit. Those warnings written is all about compliance they want to became a user friendly platform since it can give good impression to the people who read about those text written.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on February 06, 2023, 01:32:17 PM
Any thoughts?
This is a good thread, but from what I see, these online casinos just put this information there for the sake of formality.

They know that there are regulatory bodies that visit their website, and these are some of the things they would look out for. Also, they know that people would likely put out reviews for their site and would appraise them either positively or negatively if these write-ups or information were missing. And lastly, it seems like the moralistic thing to do.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 06, 2023, 02:22:36 PM
Another one is those people that borrow money to gamble. They are not responsible as they can't even gamble with what they have and want to do more with others' money as a result of their addiction and losing self-control.
It is highly not recommended to borrow money just to gamble because the risks will get bigger. We will never know when we can win but defeat, there are things we can get for sure. Instead of taking too big a risk by using borrowed money, it's better to use the borrowed money for other things.

In this case, we cannot blame the casinos for what happened to us because of our lack of self-control in gambling. The casino will argue that those who gamble have lost self-control even though the casino has informed them that everyone must be properly responsible while gambling and must treat gambling as entertainment.
The casinos have always been reminding and giving the option for each gambler to continue or not. We're all free to do and continue gambling if we want to and they've done their part of reminding everyone.
If so, we should be able to take care of ourselves by not playing gambling for too long and always controlling our money so we don't run out at the gambling table. Thus, we have tried to be responsible for what we do with our money at the gambling table.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on February 06, 2023, 02:50:17 PM
I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them.

The gamblers as well never wanted to experience loosing for any reason when they gamble but things may not just work out as expected with gambling since it's something that works with prediction, but the gambler and the casino both make a good benefits and advantage in it together.

they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

Gamblers needed to understand the means or wats by which they could responsibly gambles without any suspicious activity from them, the casinos already had a security system they have developed to monitor this aspect and they will always be alerted whenever there's an attempt for a bridge in protocols from a gambler.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: Mauser on February 06, 2023, 03:22:49 PM
Quote
- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

 Any thoughts?

I agree with it, a casino would rather have a regular customer that plays responsible and can control himself than someone who loses everything in a single night. First of all casinos are normal businesses who have been around a long time and want to be so in the future. If there were only angry customers who lost all their money than casinos would be empty quickly. Imagine hearing a story from a friend who lost big at a casino and is struggling now. Would you ever go and play there? I don't think so, it's the worst form of advertising. Also the number of stories in the newspapers would be rising about people who lost it all. Eventually the politicians would need to react and close down the casinos. I am sure the casino prefers to make steady long term profits instead of one large profit and no business afterwards.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: LogitechMouse on February 06, 2023, 04:18:14 PM
Quote
- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

 Any thoughts?
Does the gamblers care about this? Seriously?

I also gamble at some times, but I didn't read any of the advices the casino has been given to the gamblers. Well, it's a good thing that they are still telling us to be a responsible gamblers though. The problem is that, gamblers aren't reading this most of the time and if they read this, they will not follow it and they will just gamble at their own will until they lose all of their money.

I believe that there are still out there who are like me where they can control themselves whenever they are gambling, but please for the other gamblers out there, be a responsible one. Reading these guidelines can still be helpful, but if you don't have attitudes or traits that will help you be a responsible gambler then it's useless. Traits like self-control and discipline are the most important ones that a gambler must have.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: BenCodie on February 06, 2023, 04:28:20 PM
Quote
- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

 Any thoughts?
Does the gamblers care about this? Seriously?

I also gamble at some times, but I didn't read any of the advices the casino has been given to the gamblers. Well, it's a good thing that they are still telling us to be a responsible gamblers though. The problem is that, gamblers aren't reading this most of the time and if they read this, they will not follow it and they will just gamble at their own will until they lose all of their money.

I believe that there are still out there who are like me where they can control themselves whenever they are gambling, but please for the other gamblers out there, be a responsible one. Reading these guidelines can still be helpful, but if you don't have attitudes or traits that will help you be a responsible gambler then it's useless. Traits like self-control and discipline are the most important ones that a gambler must have.

No. Gamblers who have gambled plenty of times before will most likely disregard all warnings. In fact, anyone who is gambling will probably disregard them since it's coming from the casino itself.  The way it's written is almost with no empathy either. "Do not" do this and "Do not" do that. Not "Please be mindful that gambling can cause you to...". Not only very unprofessional but just another reason people will just skip over and not read it. It's not even worth reading based on how they have written it.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: noormcs5 on February 06, 2023, 04:31:18 PM
Any thoughts?
This is a good thread, but from what I see, these online casinos just put this information there for the sake of formality.

They know that there are regulatory bodies that visit their website, and these are some of the things they would look out for. Also, they know that people would likely put out reviews for their site and would appraise them either positively or negatively if these write-ups or information were missing. And lastly, it seems like the moralistic thing to do.

This is absolutely right that casino do not care about the gamblers and the most important thing for the casino is to gain their own money. They treat it as a business and the priority for them is to make money 💰💸💸


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: maydna on February 06, 2023, 04:55:03 PM
they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

Gamblers needed to understand the means or wats by which they could responsibly gambles without any suspicious activity from them, the casinos already had a security system they have developed to monitor this aspect and they will always be alerted whenever there's an attempt for a bridge in protocols from a gambler.
After all, the casino will certainly anticipate if someone wants to abuse or cheat when they play gambling. Casinos provide these guidelines for all gamblers before they start playing gambling and casinos expect gamblers to read the rule and understand it. But unfortunately, not many gamblers want to read or even read the rules at the casino, so some people have problems because they have been considered to have violated casino rules. And it's true, as long as we gamble, we must be responsible for our bets and not take too big risks or even use all the money to gamble.


Title: Re: Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly
Post by: 348Judah on February 06, 2023, 05:10:28 PM
Any thoughts?
This is a good thread, but from what I see, these online casinos just put this information there for the sake of formality.

They know that there are regulatory bodies that visit their website, and these are some of the things they would look out for. Also, they know that people would likely put out reviews for their site and would appraise them either positively or negatively if these write-ups or information were missing. And lastly, it seems like the moralistic thing to do.

This is absolutely right that casino do not care about the gamblers and the most important thing for the casino is to gain their own money. They treat it as a business and the priority for them is to make money 💰💸💸

You all may be right but nevertheless some casinos take it as serious as anything, they don't admit any funny display that could birth in shady acts from gamblers, so they expect everyone to corporate with their system and avoid causing glitches to their network, as a matter of fact, several attempts from the gamblers or any other external constraints constitute to the level of damage a casino may experience with it system when an attacked is attempted by them, this could cost them as well before detection and other innocent gamblers may be affected alongside, part of these are the reasons we see them blocking some user's account by placing restrictions on them when they were being suspected.