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Title: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Baofeng on February 04, 2023, 08:15:14 PM
Shakur Stevenson is back on his hometown, this time he will be fighting Japanese Shuichiro Yoshino in April 8 at Prudential Center In Newark.

This will serve as a title eliminator, winner of this fight will get the winner of Haney vs Loma.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/19/blob20accc694ae83f41.png

https://twitter.com/IFLTV/status/1621943799952850945

No odds yet, but for sure Stevenson will be the favorite here against Yoshino. If I'm not mistaken, the Japanese is a WBO Asia Pacific and OPBF lightweight, so this guy for sure will give Shakur a good fight.

So just imagine if Shakur will win this one, either of the winner of Haney vs Loma against him will be a banger fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: stadus on February 04, 2023, 08:27:43 PM
Shakur Stevenson is back on his hometown, this time he will be fighting Japanese Shuichiro Yoshino in April 8 at Prudential Center In Newark.

This will serve as a title eliminator, winner of this fight will get the winner of Haney vs Loma.

https://i.imgur.com/PTDtGJJ.png

https://twitter.com/IFLTV/status/1621943799952850945

No odds yet, but for sure Stevenson will be the favorite here against Yoshino. If I'm not mistaken, the Japanese is a WBO Asia Pacific and OPBF lightweight, so this guy for sure will give Shakur a good fight.

So just imagine if Shakur will win this one, either of the winner of Haney vs Loma against him will be a banger fight.

It seems that this Shuichiro Yoshino is decent enough to face Shakur Stevenson in his debut, looking at the Japanese boxer's stats and recent fights, he is quite good but all of his fights are somehow irrelevant when it comes to the main ring because this Japanese boxer is more of a local boxer who keeps fighting inside his nation and his compatriots, just like Casimero's recent opponent.

Still, this will be a good test for Shakur for testing the new weight class. I'd say that this fight will highlight Shakur before he goes for a title attempt against the winner of Loma-Haney fight. If I'm not mistaken, Haney wanted Shakur to be his opponent because their camp is quite underestimating Loma already and they want a good fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Jating on February 05, 2023, 02:09:49 AM
^^ I would agree, decent to good opponent for Shakur but I doubt that he can upset Stevenson at this point. So I will have to put Shakur here winning maybe by a knockout or complete domination of the fight.

No offense to the Japanese fighter, he had the belt in Asia, beat Nakatani who gave Teo Lopez all he can handle and also fought Loma in his comeback fight. But that is not enough resume to beat the likes of Shakur right now.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Kemarit on February 05, 2023, 03:02:25 AM
It seems that this Shuichiro Yoshino is decent enough to face Shakur Stevenson in his debut, looking at the Japanese boxer's stats and recent fights, he is quite good but all of his fights are somehow irrelevant when it comes to the main ring because this Japanese boxer is more of a local boxer who keeps fighting inside his nation and his compatriots, just like Casimero's recent opponent.

Decent but I will say average when he face the likes of Shakur. And no surprise here, I mean Japanese fighters started their career home grown and then venture out of the country if they gain enough experience.

Still, this will be a good test for Shakur for testing the new weight class. I'd say that this fight will highlight Shakur before he goes for a title attempt against the winner of Loma-Haney fight. If I'm not mistaken, Haney wanted Shakur to be his opponent because their camp is quite underestimating Loma already and they want a good fight.

Shakur has been calling out a lot of names in the 135 lbs, that includes Haney and Loma and even Tank Davis.

He is willing to test this skills against this boxers and it will be a great fight to see him against those names in the future.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: robelneo on February 05, 2023, 04:22:49 AM
Boxing fans here already know who Shakur Stevenson is and his reputation, there are already many threads about his fight here in the gambling section, but we are not aware of who Shuichiro Yoshino just found out that he is an undefeated fighter with a 75% knock out percentage checking his highlights on Youtube he mostly fought from his hometown, the one fighter he fought with good caliber is Nakatani,
I don't think he has a good chance against Shakur who is battle tested against the top fighters in his division, this will be a good tuneup fight for Stevenson because the real test will come against the Loma - Hany winner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im1BqeOiFUM



Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Jawhead999 on February 05, 2023, 04:28:13 AM
No way for Shuichiro Yoshino can pull an upset against Shakur Stevenson, this fight will happen in US and this is the first time for Yoshino will fight in US. I think Stevenson will become heavy favorite with the odds around 1.10x. I think the odds for Stevenson win via KO would be quite high since the fight will high likely end via decision. We need to look for odds 9-12 rounds, if it's high, it's worth to bet.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Baofeng on February 05, 2023, 08:59:56 AM
No way for Shuichiro Yoshino can pull an upset against Shakur Stevenson, this fight will happen in US and this is the first time for Yoshino will fight in US. I think Stevenson will become heavy favorite with the odds around 1.10x. I think the odds for Stevenson win via KO would be quite high since the fight will high likely end via decision. We need to look for odds 9-12 rounds, if it's high, it's worth to bet.

And with that, I think Shakur is playing safe here in his first fight at 135 lbs. Although in paper it looks like Yoshino is really a good fighter, but he hasn't fought outside of Japan and me too,  I doubt that he can spoil Stevenson.

So far no odds yet as this is just announced, but we all agree that Stevenson will be the huge favorite here.

And the over/under rounds might be in the 7.5 range.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Distinctin on February 05, 2023, 09:03:48 AM
So just imagine if Shakur will win this one, either of the winner of Haney vs Loma against him will be a banger fight.

I believe Shakur will have no problem beating Yoshino, but the winner of Haney vs Loma, that's hard to predict though. Anyway, whoever wins that fight will surely be a great match-up for Stevenson, but hopefully, Loma will advance so the right will not be boring against Stevenson.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: yazher on February 05, 2023, 02:11:13 PM
Another easy fight for Shakur and he really need to pass this one easy to have a chance for that next fight that would be the best fight to watch in the future. It might be an easy fight but he doesn't need to slack, instead, he needs to give some serious training and bring that until he will gonna fights Loma or Haney whoever wins that fight. Chances like this are few and it is as if he was given chance to train with a price before getting in the ring fighting a real fighter of his caliber.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: bittraffic on February 05, 2023, 03:01:56 PM

Although Yoshino had defended his lightweight title for a long time, he doesn't look like he has the skills to maneuver Stevenson. Still, this is another round for Shakur to break at 135 after all Yoshino ranked in the top 5 on the WBC which is quite impressive.

The undercard list is some that is to look at like Damian Knyba and Jared Anderson who are both undefeated heavyweights. Seems easy win as they fight older athletes with more than 5 loss.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: coin-investor on February 05, 2023, 03:06:30 PM
We don't need a poll on this one, it's an easy choice for us to pick Shakur, I've checked Shuichiro's highlights on Youtube, the guy can punch and has heavy hands but he did it to low-level fighters, Shakur is a fighter who takes a punch to deliver punches I don't know if Shuichiro can do this, I will not rule out an upset but it's unlikely because the stake is just too high, the winner will fight the winner of the Loma - Haney fight, and this is what Shakur is dreaming.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: electronicash on February 05, 2023, 08:08:42 PM

shakur shows high skills every time and is very much exposed to us since he is more covered in media than this Japanese but this tale of the tape shows Yoshino has a large advantage in power over Stevenson, he has 75% knockout while Stevenson's 47%. 

https://i.imgur.com/P8P6sL7.png
from https://box.live/fights/stevenson-vs-yoshino/



Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: crzy on February 05, 2023, 09:58:06 PM
Shakur will be the favorite here, its also a home court advantage so this will be a big challenge for Yoshino, both boxer are undefeated so this will be a big pressure to them. Shakur seems to be more fit and active though, if you’ll see his previous matches his aggressiveness is there and a deadly punches are there as well. Who ever wins here will face another big challenge on their next match either with Haney or Loma, so better for them to do their best on this match.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Jawhead999 on February 06, 2023, 01:04:19 PM
shakur shows high skills every time and is very much exposed to us since he is more covered in media than this Japanese but this tale of the tape shows Yoshino has a large advantage in power over Stevenson, he has 75% knockout while Stevenson's 47%.  
I don't think it's a valid comparison because Yoshino never fight with a world champion boxer. In Stevenson's career the highest losses of his opponent only 4, while Yoshino have 7 times fights with boxers have losses more than 4, the highest is 16 losses.

I'm not agree if Yoshino has more power, but I tend to agree if Stevenson doesn't have a lot power. Stevenson is only fast and skillful, he ever make Oscar Valdez and Jeremia Nakathila fall, but it doesn't enough to stop them.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: TravelMug on February 07, 2023, 03:03:38 AM
shakur shows high skills every time and is very much exposed to us since he is more covered in media than this Japanese but this tale of the tape shows Yoshino has a large advantage in power over Stevenson, he has 75% knockout while Stevenson's 47%.  
I don't think it's a valid comparison because Yoshino never fight with a world champion boxer. In Stevenson's career the highest losses of his opponent only 4, while Yoshino have 7 times fights with boxers have losses more than 4, the highest is 16 losses.

I'm not agree if Yoshino has more power, but I tend to agree if Stevenson doesn't have a lot power. Stevenson is only fast and skillful, he ever make Oscar Valdez and Jeremia Nakathila fall, but it doesn't enough to stop them.

It's probably just the numbers or statistics, but we all know that in boxing, it might not be the case specially if you are fighting the likes of Shakur and other defensive fighter, even like Haney, who has the 4 belts right now at 135 lbs.

So it could be deceiving for some and yeah, might not be a good numbers to compare. Stevenson might not have the power vs Yoshino, but definitely, he has more experience and the better between the two and going to be the favorite, likely Yoshino will be 4:1 underdog or higher I reckon.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: btc_angela on February 07, 2023, 05:13:21 AM

Although Yoshino had defended his lightweight title for a long time, he doesn't look like he has the skills to maneuver Stevenson. Still, this is another round for Shakur to break at 135 after all Yoshino ranked in the top 5 on the WBC which is quite impressive.

It seems to be that Yoshino stayed in Japan fighting, so his exposure fighting Western style is very limited up to this point. While Stevenson has beat a good amount of champions, like Oscar Valdez and Herring and also Robson Conceiao.

Yoshino might try to stage a upset, but it's a long shot odds for him.

The undercard list is some that is to look at like Damian Knyba and Jared Anderson who are both undefeated heavyweights. Seems easy win as they fight older athletes with more than 5 loss.

We will see more on the undercard I guess, the good thing with this undercard is that sometimes we will find great boxers in there.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: stadus on February 08, 2023, 04:33:35 PM
It seems that this Shuichiro Yoshino is decent enough to face Shakur Stevenson in his debut, looking at the Japanese boxer's stats and recent fights, he is quite good but all of his fights are somehow irrelevant when it comes to the main ring because this Japanese boxer is more of a local boxer who keeps fighting inside his nation and his compatriots, just like Casimero's recent opponent.

Decent but I will say average when he face the likes of Shakur. And no surprise here, I mean Japanese fighters started their career home grown and then venture out of the country if they gain enough experience.

That's why I said his experience are irrelevant because all his fight are just local and this Japanese doesn't have any experience nor heavy names on his rapsheet that is saying that he defeated them. Unlike Shakur, if it wasn't for his weight issue, I bet he can have that undisputed title on his past weight class.


Still, this will be a good test for Shakur for testing the new weight class. I'd say that this fight will highlight Shakur before he goes for a title attempt against the winner of Loma-Haney fight. If I'm not mistaken, Haney wanted Shakur to be his opponent because their camp is quite underestimating Loma already and they want a good fight.

Shakur has been calling out a lot of names in the 135 lbs, that includes Haney and Loma and even Tank Davis.

He is willing to test this skills against this boxers and it will be a great fight to see him against those names in the future.

And has been privileged to be called out by the undisputed champion, Devin Haney, because his camp wanted to test his skills rather than fighting Lomachenko on a mere money fight. But I guess, Bob Arum doesn't want that scenario for now and would like Shakur to test the water first before fighting a champion directly that belongs on the same stable.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 08, 2023, 06:01:40 PM
Shakur will be the favorite here, its also a home court advantage so this will be a big challenge for Yoshino, both boxer are undefeated so this will be a big pressure to them. Shakur seems to be more fit and active though, if you’ll see his previous matches his aggressiveness is there and a deadly punches are there as well. Who ever wins here will face another big challenge on their next match either with Haney or Loma, so better for them to do their best on this match.

Not sure if there is pressure on Shakur, yeah, he needs to win this fight because it will be in hometown, but he will be facing a somewhat unknown boxer from Japan. I'm not saying that Yoshino is not going to win, but basing on the experience alone of Shakur and Yoshino not exposed, it might be very hard for him to win in US, in my opinion. Yes, whoever wins here, is assured to face the winner of the Loma vs Haney fight. So this is in the mind of Shakur since he wanted to break into the picture and become a champion in another weight class.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Yatsan on February 08, 2023, 10:27:02 PM
Shakur will be the favorite here, its also a home court advantage so this will be a big challenge for Yoshino, both boxer are undefeated so this will be a big pressure to them. Shakur seems to be more fit and active though, if you’ll see his previous matches his aggressiveness is there and a deadly punches are there as well. Who ever wins here will face another big challenge on their next match either with Haney or Loma, so better for them to do their best on this match.

Not sure if there is pressure on Shakur, yeah, he needs to win this fight because it will be in hometown, but he will be facing a somewhat unknown boxer from Japan. I'm not saying that Yoshino is not going to win, but basing on the experience alone of Shakur and Yoshino not exposed, it might be very hard for him to win in US, in my opinion. Yes, whoever wins here, is assured to face the winner of the Loma vs Haney fight. So this is in the mind of Shakur since he wanted to break into the picture and become a champion in another weight class.
Actually both are having 'noisy' names, there's just this barrier between local and international viewers. Yoshino quite had a good record for being undefeated in his local while Shakur is as well but with foreign fighters. This is where difficulty with bettors measure comes from. In general, the japanese boxer's statistics would be somehow set aside since international record is believed to be having a bigger weight not only in sports industry. But this is boxing we are talking about and anything could happen once both fighters starts in the middle of the square. Both has their own trainings and tactics to win over their opponent. So what's more likely to happen , and as we can see in this topic, Shuichiro is just the underdog in this match.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: aioc on February 08, 2023, 10:49:04 PM
Shakur Stevenson is back on his hometown, this time he will be fighting Japanese Shuichiro Yoshino in April 8 at Prudential Center In Newark.
If he is fighting in his hometown I'm sure he will try to be impressive by giving a great performance and what could be a great performance and this is by knocking out his opponent.

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No odds yet, but for sure Stevenson will be the favorite here against Yoshino. If I'm not mistaken, the Japanese is a WBO Asia Pacific and OPBF lightweight, so this guy for sure will give Shakur a good fight.
If he is holding two titles it could only mean that he is the best fighter in the Asian region in that division, but I still see Shakur  the better guy to come out as the winner here.

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So just imagine if Shakur will win this one, either of the winner of Haney vs Loma against him will be a banger fight.
That's what's likely going to happen he deserves a shot he is also a top dog in that division, and he could give a good fight to the winner of the Loma - Haney.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Yaunfitda on February 09, 2023, 12:13:29 PM
Shakur will be the favorite here, its also a home court advantage so this will be a big challenge for Yoshino, both boxer are undefeated so this will be a big pressure to them. Shakur seems to be more fit and active though, if you’ll see his previous matches his aggressiveness is there and a deadly punches are there as well. Who ever wins here will face another big challenge on their next match either with Haney or Loma, so better for them to do their best on this match.

Not sure if there is pressure on Shakur, yeah, he needs to win this fight because it will be in hometown, but he will be facing a somewhat unknown boxer from Japan. I'm not saying that Yoshino is not going to win, but basing on the experience alone of Shakur and Yoshino not exposed, it might be very hard for him to win in US, in my opinion. Yes, whoever wins here, is assured to face the winner of the Loma vs Haney fight. So this is in the mind of Shakur since he wanted to break into the picture and become a champion in another weight class.
Actually both are having 'noisy' names, there's just this barrier between local and international viewers. Yoshino quite had a good record for being undefeated in his local while Shakur is as well but with foreign fighters. This is where difficulty with bettors measure comes from. In general, the japanese boxer's statistics would be somehow set aside since international record is believed to be having a bigger weight not only in sports industry. But this is boxing we are talking about and anything could happen once both fighters starts in the middle of the square. Both has their own trainings and tactics to win over their opponent. So what's more likely to happen , and as we can see in this topic, Shuichiro is just the underdog in this match.
I'm not seeing it as a difficult though, for sure it's easy for bookies to make Shakur their favorite even if the Japanese is also a champion. It's been gauge on their experience and again, Yoshino might be good in Asia but the centerpiece of boxing is in the US.

Underdog means that you are treated to have low chance of winning.

And even in this community, we all know that Shakur will likely take this W.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: stadus on February 10, 2023, 08:55:09 PM
Shakur will be the favorite here, its also a home court advantage so this will be a big challenge for Yoshino, both boxer are undefeated so this will be a big pressure to them. Shakur seems to be more fit and active though, if you’ll see his previous matches his aggressiveness is there and a deadly punches are there as well. Who ever wins here will face another big challenge on their next match either with Haney or Loma, so better for them to do their best on this match.

Not sure if there is pressure on Shakur, yeah, he needs to win this fight because it will be in hometown, but he will be facing a somewhat unknown boxer from Japan. I'm not saying that Yoshino is not going to win, but basing on the experience alone of Shakur and Yoshino not exposed, it might be very hard for him to win in US, in my opinion. Yes, whoever wins here, is assured to face the winner of the Loma vs Haney fight. So this is in the mind of Shakur since he wanted to break into the picture and become a champion in another weight class.
Actually both are having 'noisy' names, there's just this barrier between local and international viewers. Yoshino quite had a good record for being undefeated in his local while Shakur is as well but with foreign fighters. This is where difficulty with bettors measure comes from. In general, the japanese boxer's statistics would be somehow set aside since international record is believed to be having a bigger weight not only in sports industry. But this is boxing we are talking about and anything could happen once both fighters starts in the middle of the square. Both has their own trainings and tactics to win over their opponent. So what's more likely to happen , and as we can see in this topic, Shuichiro is just the underdog in this match.
I'm not seeing it as a difficult though, for sure it's easy for bookies to make Shakur their favorite even if the Japanese is also a champion. It's been gauge on their experience and again, Yoshino might be good in Asia but the centerpiece of boxing is in the US.

Underdog means that you are treated to have low chance of winning.

And even in this community, we all know that Shakur will likely take this W.

And also means that Shuichiro Yoshino chances are not that good against the world champion who vacated his belt because of weight issues, actually, I see this fight as more of Shakur's debut and highlights before he go and pursue the generals of this division. It's no doubt already that Shakur will get defeated in this bout before he can chase titles.

No offense for the Japanese fighter but this bout looks like a good tune-up fight to prepare Shakur for a much bigger bout in the future. In short, just a stepping stone.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Baofeng on February 11, 2023, 11:26:28 PM
Shakur will be the favorite here, its also a home court advantage so this will be a big challenge for Yoshino, both boxer are undefeated so this will be a big pressure to them. Shakur seems to be more fit and active though, if you’ll see his previous matches his aggressiveness is there and a deadly punches are there as well. Who ever wins here will face another big challenge on their next match either with Haney or Loma, so better for them to do their best on this match.

Not sure if there is pressure on Shakur, yeah, he needs to win this fight because it will be in hometown, but he will be facing a somewhat unknown boxer from Japan. I'm not saying that Yoshino is not going to win, but basing on the experience alone of Shakur and Yoshino not exposed, it might be very hard for him to win in US, in my opinion. Yes, whoever wins here, is assured to face the winner of the Loma vs Haney fight. So this is in the mind of Shakur since he wanted to break into the picture and become a champion in another weight class.
Actually both are having 'noisy' names, there's just this barrier between local and international viewers. Yoshino quite had a good record for being undefeated in his local while Shakur is as well but with foreign fighters. This is where difficulty with bettors measure comes from. In general, the japanese boxer's statistics would be somehow set aside since international record is believed to be having a bigger weight not only in sports industry. But this is boxing we are talking about and anything could happen once both fighters starts in the middle of the square. Both has their own trainings and tactics to win over their opponent. So what's more likely to happen , and as we can see in this topic, Shuichiro is just the underdog in this match.
I'm not seeing it as a difficult though, for sure it's easy for bookies to make Shakur their favorite even if the Japanese is also a champion. It's been gauge on their experience and again, Yoshino might be good in Asia but the centerpiece of boxing is in the US.

Underdog means that you are treated to have low chance of winning.

And even in this community, we all know that Shakur will likely take this W.

And also means that Shuichiro Yoshino chances are not that good against the world champion who vacated his belt because of weight issues, actually, I see this fight as more of Shakur's debut and highlights before he go and pursue the generals of this division. It's no doubt already that Shakur will get defeated in this bout before he can chase titles.

No offense for the Japanese fighter but this bout looks like a good tune-up fight to prepare Shakur for a much bigger bout in the future. In short, just a stepping stone.

Yes, this will be Shakur's debut and we are eager to see him at this division, he has been telling us all that he wanted to move up at 135 lbs because that's where the challenge is, a lot of good names that he wants to fight.

Anyhow, it's going to be a win-win though for Yoshino, also his chances are slim to none, at least he will get to travel and exposed his talent in the US soil. And so even if he losses, who knows, maybe he can still get a fight there, just like Nakatani, who he beat recently. And with the emergence of Inoue in the big US market, for sure there will be a lot of Japanese too that might followed next. Similar to what Pacquiao did to many Filipino boxers when he was at his prime. At least they are given the chance with the likes of Mark Magsayo and Casimero and many more. So this might be the case for Japanese boxer in the next coming years.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Kasabus on February 12, 2023, 08:26:38 PM
Shakur will be the favorite here, its also a home court advantage so this will be a big challenge for Yoshino, both boxer are undefeated so this will be a big pressure to them. Shakur seems to be more fit and active though, if you’ll see his previous matches his aggressiveness is there and a deadly punches are there as well. Who ever wins here will face another big challenge on their next match either with Haney or Loma, so better for them to do their best on this match.

Not sure if there is pressure on Shakur, yeah, he needs to win this fight because it will be in hometown, but he will be facing a somewhat unknown boxer from Japan. I'm not saying that Yoshino is not going to win, but basing on the experience alone of Shakur and Yoshino not exposed, it might be very hard for him to win in US, in my opinion. Yes, whoever wins here, is assured to face the winner of the Loma vs Haney fight. So this is in the mind of Shakur since he wanted to break into the picture and become a champion in another weight class.
Actually both are having 'noisy' names, there's just this barrier between local and international viewers. Yoshino quite had a good record for being undefeated in his local while Shakur is as well but with foreign fighters. This is where difficulty with bettors measure comes from. In general, the japanese boxer's statistics would be somehow set aside since international record is believed to be having a bigger weight not only in sports industry. But this is boxing we are talking about and anything could happen once both fighters starts in the middle of the square. Both has their own trainings and tactics to win over their opponent. So what's more likely to happen , and as we can see in this topic, Shuichiro is just the underdog in this match.
I'm not seeing it as a difficult though, for sure it's easy for bookies to make Shakur their favorite even if the Japanese is also a champion. It's been gauge on their experience and again, Yoshino might be good in Asia but the centerpiece of boxing is in the US.

Underdog means that you are treated to have low chance of winning.

And even in this community, we all know that Shakur will likely take this W.

And also means that Shuichiro Yoshino chances are not that good against the world champion who vacated his belt because of weight issues, actually, I see this fight as more of Shakur's debut and highlights before he go and pursue the generals of this division. It's no doubt already that Shakur will get defeated in this bout before he can chase titles.

No offense for the Japanese fighter but this bout looks like a good tune-up fight to prepare Shakur for a much bigger bout in the future. In short, just a stepping stone.

Yes, this will be Shakur's debut and we are eager to see him at this division, he has been telling us all that he wanted to move up at 135 lbs because that's where the challenge is, a lot of good names that he wants to fight.

Anyhow, it's going to be a win-win though for Yoshino, also his chances are slim to none, at least he will get to travel and exposed his talent in the US soil. And so even if he losses, who knows, maybe he can still get a fight there, just like Nakatani, who he beat recently. And with the emergence of Inoue in the big US market, for sure there will be a lot of Japanese too that might followed next. Similar to what Pacquiao did to many Filipino boxers when he was at his prime. At least they are given the chance with the likes of Mark Magsayo and Casimero and many more. So this might be the case for Japanese boxer in the next coming years.

And if I recall it correctly, Shakur almost got a fight with the champion directly, Devin Haney but I think Bob Arum doesn't want that for now and chose Loma instead to have the chance because it's much more profitable as people are calling for it since he got back again in the ring.

Speaking of Japanese boxers that will follow Inoue's footstep, I just knew that his younger brother, Takuma Inoue, has been fighting at bantamweight already years before Inoue made his statement to climb the same weight class. Takuma got the WBC Interim title last 2018 but has been defeated a year after as he chased the WBC regular belt. But unlike Naoya, it seems that Takuma haven't got his older brothers talent.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Baofeng on February 13, 2023, 11:05:02 PM
Shakur will be the favorite here, its also a home court advantage so this will be a big challenge for Yoshino, both boxer are undefeated so this will be a big pressure to them. Shakur seems to be more fit and active though, if you’ll see his previous matches his aggressiveness is there and a deadly punches are there as well. Who ever wins here will face another big challenge on their next match either with Haney or Loma, so better for them to do their best on this match.

Not sure if there is pressure on Shakur, yeah, he needs to win this fight because it will be in hometown, but he will be facing a somewhat unknown boxer from Japan. I'm not saying that Yoshino is not going to win, but basing on the experience alone of Shakur and Yoshino not exposed, it might be very hard for him to win in US, in my opinion. Yes, whoever wins here, is assured to face the winner of the Loma vs Haney fight. So this is in the mind of Shakur since he wanted to break into the picture and become a champion in another weight class.
Actually both are having 'noisy' names, there's just this barrier between local and international viewers. Yoshino quite had a good record for being undefeated in his local while Shakur is as well but with foreign fighters. This is where difficulty with bettors measure comes from. In general, the japanese boxer's statistics would be somehow set aside since international record is believed to be having a bigger weight not only in sports industry. But this is boxing we are talking about and anything could happen once both fighters starts in the middle of the square. Both has their own trainings and tactics to win over their opponent. So what's more likely to happen , and as we can see in this topic, Shuichiro is just the underdog in this match.
I'm not seeing it as a difficult though, for sure it's easy for bookies to make Shakur their favorite even if the Japanese is also a champion. It's been gauge on their experience and again, Yoshino might be good in Asia but the centerpiece of boxing is in the US.

Underdog means that you are treated to have low chance of winning.

And even in this community, we all know that Shakur will likely take this W.

And also means that Shuichiro Yoshino chances are not that good against the world champion who vacated his belt because of weight issues, actually, I see this fight as more of Shakur's debut and highlights before he go and pursue the generals of this division. It's no doubt already that Shakur will get defeated in this bout before he can chase titles.

No offense for the Japanese fighter but this bout looks like a good tune-up fight to prepare Shakur for a much bigger bout in the future. In short, just a stepping stone.

Yes, this will be Shakur's debut and we are eager to see him at this division, he has been telling us all that he wanted to move up at 135 lbs because that's where the challenge is, a lot of good names that he wants to fight.

Anyhow, it's going to be a win-win though for Yoshino, also his chances are slim to none, at least he will get to travel and exposed his talent in the US soil. And so even if he losses, who knows, maybe he can still get a fight there, just like Nakatani, who he beat recently. And with the emergence of Inoue in the big US market, for sure there will be a lot of Japanese too that might followed next. Similar to what Pacquiao did to many Filipino boxers when he was at his prime. At least they are given the chance with the likes of Mark Magsayo and Casimero and many more. So this might be the case for Japanese boxer in the next coming years.

And if I recall it correctly, Shakur almost got a fight with the champion directly, Devin Haney but I think Bob Arum doesn't want that for now and chose Loma instead to have the chance because it's much more profitable as people are calling for it since he got back again in the ring.

It's because that a fight has been set between Kambosos vs Loma, and at that time, George has the world title, but Loma has to back up because of his personal reason (war). So things has chance since then, Haney defeated Kambosos twice and now the champion. And so it is just right that Loma will be given the first crack by Top Rank against Haney.

Speaking of Japanese boxers that will follow Inoue's footstep, I just knew that his younger brother, Takuma Inoue, has been fighting at bantamweight already years before Inoue made his statement to climb the same weight class. Takuma got the WBC Interim title last 2018 but has been defeated a year after as he chased the WBC regular belt. But unlike Naoya, it seems that Takuma haven't got his older brothers talent.

Yes, he has a brother as well that campaigns in the bantamweight, but doesn't have the success of Inoue. Two different bread of boxers, just like the Manny, he has a brother in Bobby, but was way below the talent of Manny hehehe. We also have Glen Donaire, older brother of Nonito and we all know the story line when Nonito beat Darchinyan, it was thought to be a revenge fight and he knock him out.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: TravelMug on February 23, 2023, 09:36:02 AM
Are anyone here surprised by the odds?

I just check on sportsbet and Yoshino is 7:1 underdog. For me I'm, it's expected that this is somewhat be relatively easy fight for Shakur against the Japanese. And Shakur should win here and if he does, as per Bob Arum, he will get the winner of the Loma and Haney fight. So that will be the most compelling fight for Shakur next.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Kemarit on February 23, 2023, 10:28:43 AM
^^ No surprised with that huge odds stack up against the Japanese boxer. He is not well known in the US boxing scene as he just campaign in Japan. Although he has belt to boot, it has nothing as the big competition are in the US.

But who knows what he can do and pull the biggest upset win?

As for Shakur, he should not take his Japanese opponent lightly, still needs to train 100% in this fight and look for the biggest fish later.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: stadus on February 24, 2023, 05:37:23 PM
Are anyone here surprised by the odds?

I just check on sportsbet and Yoshino is 7:1 underdog. For me I'm, it's expected that this is somewhat be relatively easy fight for Shakur against the Japanese. And Shakur should win here and if he does, as per Bob Arum, he will get the winner of the Loma and Haney fight. So that will be the most compelling fight for Shakur next.

I can't really say if I'm surprised or not because somehow I was already expecting that Yoshino will be a heavy underdog in this fight like a 4:1 odds but 7:1? That's like underestimating Yoshino and just another way of saying that there's no way he can stand up against or defeat Shakur Stevenson. To sum up the upcoming fight, I'm not expecting either from the Japanese boxer because I'm seeing him as more like a local and not used to get in the world stage/ring.

Just good thing though that Shakur Stevenson (granting that he won this bout) will get to fight the winner of Loma-Haney fight. That's what I wanted to see.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: mirakal on February 24, 2023, 07:40:16 PM
Are anyone here surprised by the odds?

I just check on sportsbet and Yoshino is 7:1 underdog. For me I'm, it's expected that this is somewhat be relatively easy fight for Shakur against the Japanese. And Shakur should win here and if he does, as per Bob Arum, he will get the winner of the Loma and Haney fight. So that will be the most compelling fight for Shakur next.

I can't really say if I'm surprised or not because somehow I was already expecting that Yoshino will be a heavy underdog in this fight like a 4:1 odds but 7:1? That's like underestimating Yoshino and just another way of saying that there's no way he can stand up against or defeat Shakur Stevenson. To sum up the upcoming fight, I'm not expecting either from the Japanese boxer because I'm seeing him as more like a local and not used to get in the world stage/ring.

Just good thing though that Shakur Stevenson (granting that he won this bout) will get to fight the winner of Loma-Haney fight. That's what I wanted to see.

Yes, that's the word "underestimated" because the bookies are indeed underestimating Yoshino that his chances to defeat Shakur is little less than slim but what can we do, the bookies surely know the chances as well because this debut fight of Shakur highlights him making a statement as he will going to fight either Lomancheko or Haney soon after this. Same here though, I'm also leaning in-favor of Shakur to win by a way of TKO/KO.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Baofeng on February 24, 2023, 10:41:17 PM
Are anyone here surprised by the odds?

I just check on sportsbet and Yoshino is 7:1 underdog. For me I'm, it's expected that this is somewhat be relatively easy fight for Shakur against the Japanese. And Shakur should win here and if he does, as per Bob Arum, he will get the winner of the Loma and Haney fight. So that will be the most compelling fight for Shakur next.

I can't really say if I'm surprised or not because somehow I was already expecting that Yoshino will be a heavy underdog in this fight like a 4:1 odds but 7:1? That's like underestimating Yoshino and just another way of saying that there's no way he can stand up against or defeat Shakur Stevenson. To sum up the upcoming fight, I'm not expecting either from the Japanese boxer because I'm seeing him as more like a local and not used to get in the world stage/ring.

Just good thing though that Shakur Stevenson (granting that he won this bout) will get to fight the winner of Loma-Haney fight. That's what I wanted to see.

Yes, that's the word "underestimated" because the bookies are indeed underestimating Yoshino that his chances to defeat Shakur is little less than slim but what can we do, the bookies surely know the chances as well because this debut fight of Shakur highlights him making a statement as he will going to fight either Lomancheko or Haney soon after this. Same here though, I'm also leaning in-favor of Shakur to win by a way of TKO/KO.

Those handicappers really knows what they do, they are good in what they are doing here so I agree with that odds that they released right now. This is going to be no easy fight though for Shakure because Yoshino wanted to break barriers here and fight in the US and this is his chance as he will have the biggest stage to become known.

But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Jawhead999 on February 25, 2023, 11:08:59 AM
But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.
The winning method odds for Shakur to win via knockout should be high because he's not a knockout artist, so it would be profitable if you want to bet that's option. Yoshino haven't lose in any fight and he tend to win via knockout, so it's quite hard to judge how good his chin. I still think Shakur win via decision is high likely to happen, but the odds still not included and if it's not worth, it's better for me to bet via knockout.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Japinat on February 25, 2023, 11:46:16 AM
But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.
The winning method odds for Shakur to win via knockout should be high because he's not a knockout artist, so it would be profitable if you want to bet that's option. Yoshino haven't lose in any fight and he tend to win via knockout, so it's quite hard to judge how good his chin. I still think Shakur win via decision is high likely to happen, but the odds still not included and if it's not worth, it's better for me to bet via knockout.

Exactly, the likelihood of Shakur winning by KO is not high. Would you bet on Shakur to win via KO, knowing his boring strategy in boxing? Personally, I doubt that he will win by KO in this fight. Most likely, it will still go the full 12 rounds, and he will win via unanimous decision. However, if you like to have fun and are willing to take the risk, then Shakur winning by KO could be the right bet for you.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: btc_angela on February 25, 2023, 12:02:56 PM
But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.
The winning method odds for Shakur to win via knockout should be high because he's not a knockout artist, so it would be profitable if you want to bet that's option. Yoshino haven't lose in any fight and he tend to win via knockout, so it's quite hard to judge how good his chin. I still think Shakur win via decision is high likely to happen, but the odds still not included and if it's not worth, it's better for me to bet via knockout.

Exactly, the likelihood of Shakur winning by KO is not high. Would you bet on Shakur to win via KO, knowing his boring strategy in boxing? Personally, I doubt that he will win by KO in this fight. Most likely, it will still go the full 12 rounds, and he will win via unanimous decision. However, if you like to have fun and are willing to take the risk, then Shakur winning by KO could be the right bet for you.

I agree though, his knockout percentage is not even 50%, so most likely it will be a long and deliberate fight for him against Yoshino, unless he become a big hitter and Yoshino doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

It might be better though for me at least, so just sit out this match.

And wait for the outcome because the next fight might be the good one to bet. Shakur vs the winner of Haney vs Loma.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: mirakal on February 25, 2023, 08:13:27 PM
Are anyone here surprised by the odds?

I just check on sportsbet and Yoshino is 7:1 underdog. For me I'm, it's expected that this is somewhat be relatively easy fight for Shakur against the Japanese. And Shakur should win here and if he does, as per Bob Arum, he will get the winner of the Loma and Haney fight. So that will be the most compelling fight for Shakur next.

I can't really say if I'm surprised or not because somehow I was already expecting that Yoshino will be a heavy underdog in this fight like a 4:1 odds but 7:1? That's like underestimating Yoshino and just another way of saying that there's no way he can stand up against or defeat Shakur Stevenson. To sum up the upcoming fight, I'm not expecting either from the Japanese boxer because I'm seeing him as more like a local and not used to get in the world stage/ring.

Just good thing though that Shakur Stevenson (granting that he won this bout) will get to fight the winner of Loma-Haney fight. That's what I wanted to see.

Yes, that's the word "underestimated" because the bookies are indeed underestimating Yoshino that his chances to defeat Shakur is little less than slim but what can we do, the bookies surely know the chances as well because this debut fight of Shakur highlights him making a statement as he will going to fight either Lomancheko or Haney soon after this. Same here though, I'm also leaning in-favor of Shakur to win by a way of TKO/KO.

Those handicappers really knows what they do, they are good in what they are doing here so I agree with that odds that they released right now. This is going to be no easy fight though for Shakure because Yoshino wanted to break barriers here and fight in the US and this is his chance as he will have the biggest stage to become known.

But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.

Both boxers wanted the rewards that is earned after this fight but only one of them will continue successfully as a draw in this bout is very unlikely to happen and besides, we both know here who got the right talent to continue on his journey and who doesn't have what it takes to take the said reward. Shakur is on a campaign to get either Haney or Loma, so I don't really think that he'll just give this Japanese guy an easy way in.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Kasabus on February 25, 2023, 08:28:06 PM
But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.
The winning method odds for Shakur to win via knockout should be high because he's not a knockout artist, so it would be profitable if you want to bet that's option. Yoshino haven't lose in any fight and he tend to win via knockout, so it's quite hard to judge how good his chin. I still think Shakur win via decision is high likely to happen, but the odds still not included and if it's not worth, it's better for me to bet via knockout.

Exactly, the likelihood of Shakur winning by KO is not high. Would you bet on Shakur to win via KO, knowing his boring strategy in boxing? Personally, I doubt that he will win by KO in this fight. Most likely, it will still go the full 12 rounds, and he will win via unanimous decision. However, if you like to have fun and are willing to take the risk, then Shakur winning by KO could be the right bet for you.

I agree though, his knockout percentage is not even 50%, so most likely it will be a long and deliberate fight for him against Yoshino, unless he become a big hitter and Yoshino doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

It might be better though for me at least, so just sit out this match.

And wait for the outcome because the next fight might be the good one to bet. Shakur vs the winner of Haney vs Loma.

That depends on the bettor really because there are some bettors who does like adventures and taking a different bets on a single bout to somehow enhance their winnings. Besides, a 47 percent KO ratio of Shakur Stevenson is not that bad as eventually, he might add on that ratio and possibly on this fight. I believe he can somehow grab a win by a way of TKO/KO, he even managed to do it last 2021 on his 1st chase on the title against Jamel Herring to get the WBO title, who was the champion at that time.

I know that his chances to have that outcome is not that good, it's still better to bet on a decision. But it's also not a bad idea after all to throw some few spare bucks on the KO/TKO outcome considering that his ratio is not that high, so the bookies might give a juicy odds on that option.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: serjent05 on February 25, 2023, 08:50:57 PM
Their record is well paired. Both have an undefeated record and have power punches that can knock out their opponent.  Though I have a feeling that this will be an easy fight for Shakur Stevenson since looking at the quality of the opponent, Stevenson has faced a better opponent and beat them.  This will be a test for the Japanese fighter if he can be as hot as Naoya Inoue in terms of dominating the ring.

Both boxers wanted the rewards that is earned after this fight but only one of them will continue successfully as a draw in this bout is very unlikely to happen and besides, we both know here who got the right talent to continue on his journey and who doesn't have what it takes to take the said reward. Shakur is on a campaign to get either Haney or Loma, so I don't really think that he'll just give this Japanese guy an easy way in.

I think this fight will have one fighter kissing the canvas since both have devastating power punches.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Japinat on February 27, 2023, 03:06:10 PM
Their record is well paired. Both have an undefeated record and have power punches that can knock out their opponent.  Though I have a feeling that this will be an easy fight for Shakur Stevenson since looking at the quality of the opponent, Stevenson has faced a better opponent and beat them.  This will be a test for the Japanese fighter if he can be as hot as Naoya Inoue in terms of dominating the ring.

Both boxers wanted the rewards that is earned after this fight but only one of them will continue successfully as a draw in this bout is very unlikely to happen and besides, we both know here who got the right talent to continue on his journey and who doesn't have what it takes to take the said reward. Shakur is on a campaign to get either Haney or Loma, so I don't really think that he'll just give this Japanese guy an easy way in.

I think this fight will have one fighter kissing the canvas since both have devastating power punches.

In terms of record, yes, it is well paired but on power level? I guess no, we probably know why as even the bookies gave 7:1 underdog odds to Yoshino despite having a good record but that record was just established inside Japan, so more like a localize fights rather than being held in an international ring like this bout.

Still though, we shouldn't be careless because there are some cases that the heavy underdogs will rise from the mud and defeat the favorite. But in this case, I definitely think that the chances are really slim and it's just unfortunate for Yoshino because he's being paired with Shakur.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: cabron on February 27, 2023, 05:21:00 PM
Their record is well paired. Both have an undefeated record and have power punches that can knock out their opponent.  Though I have a feeling that this will be an easy fight for Shakur Stevenson since looking at the quality of the opponent, Stevenson has faced a better opponent and beat them.  This will be a test for the Japanese fighter if he can be as hot as Naoya Inoue in terms of dominating the ring.

Both boxers wanted the rewards that is earned after this fight but only one of them will continue successfully as a draw in this bout is very unlikely to happen and besides, we both know here who got the right talent to continue on his journey and who doesn't have what it takes to take the said reward. Shakur is on a campaign to get either Haney or Loma, so I don't really think that he'll just give this Japanese guy an easy way in.

I think this fight will have one fighter kissing the canvas since both have devastating power punches.

In terms of record, yes, it is well paired but on power level? I guess no, we probably know why as even the bookies gave 7:1 underdog odds to Yoshino despite having a good record but that record was just established inside Japan, so more like a localize fights rather than being held in an international ring like this bout.

Still though, we shouldn't be careless because there are some cases that the heavy underdogs will rise from the mud and defeat the favorite. But in this case, I definitely think that the chances are really slim and it's just unfortunate for Yoshino because he's being paired with Shakur.

Bookies certainly don't believe Yoshi can make it and I think the odds they give are reasonable because he hasn't fought anyone with remarkable.

Yesterday I watch a fight that I also thought was an easy win and then I lose when an upset happen. I tend to bet a sum for it is quite funny that I planned to celebrate before the fight happened. They are developing Shakur for a bigger fight. Although this might be more than a 50% win for Shakur, I will limit my wager to a minimum.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Vaculin on February 27, 2023, 05:52:46 PM
Their record is well paired. Both have an undefeated record and have power punches that can knock out their opponent.  Though I have a feeling that this will be an easy fight for Shakur Stevenson since looking at the quality of the opponent, Stevenson has faced a better opponent and beat them.  This will be a test for the Japanese fighter if he can be as hot as Naoya Inoue in terms of dominating the ring.

Both boxers wanted the rewards that is earned after this fight but only one of them will continue successfully as a draw in this bout is very unlikely to happen and besides, we both know here who got the right talent to continue on his journey and who doesn't have what it takes to take the said reward. Shakur is on a campaign to get either Haney or Loma, so I don't really think that he'll just give this Japanese guy an easy way in.

I think this fight will have one fighter kissing the canvas since both have devastating power punches.

In terms of record, yes, it is well paired but on power level? I guess no, we probably know why as even the bookies gave 7:1 underdog odds to Yoshino despite having a good record but that record was just established inside Japan, so more like a localize fights rather than being held in an international ring like this bout.

Still though, we shouldn't be careless because there are some cases that the heavy underdogs will rise from the mud and defeat the favorite. But in this case, I definitely think that the chances are really slim and it's just unfortunate for Yoshino because he's being paired with Shakur.

Bookies certainly don't believe Yoshi can make it and I think the odds they give are reasonable because he hasn't fought anyone with remarkable.

Yesterday I watch a fight that I also thought was an easy win and then I lose when an upset happen. I tend to bet a sum for it is quite funny that I planned to celebrate before the fight happened. They are developing Shakur for a bigger fight. Although this might be more than a 50% win for Shakur, I will limit my wager to a minimum.

Yes mate, sometimes fate itself present to us unexpectedly as who knows, we are just betting on a specific fighter who does have a good chance of winning the fight but there are some instances that the underdog will heavily upset the crowd favorite and of course, the bookies favorite. At least, you and I pretty much learned a lesson about it ;D

In this fight, it's really hard to believe that Shakur will be the one who will get defeated by a local Japanese boxer who may have a pretty record but doesn't have a good boxer listed on his resume. But just like you, I also think that it's better to limit my wager but I'm also looking for another betting option which as of now are not yet published.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: carlisle1 on February 27, 2023, 06:06:28 PM
But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.
The winning method odds for Shakur to win via knockout should be high because he's not a knockout artist, so it would be profitable if you want to bet that's option. Yoshino haven't lose in any fight and he tend to win via knockout, so it's quite hard to judge how good his chin. I still think Shakur win via decision is high likely to happen, but the odds still not included and if it's not worth, it's better for me to bet via knockout.

Exactly, the likelihood of Shakur winning by KO is not high. Would you bet on Shakur to win via KO, knowing his boring strategy in boxing? Personally, I doubt that he will win by KO in this fight. Most likely, it will still go the full 12 rounds, and he will win via unanimous decision. However, if you like to have fun and are willing to take the risk, then Shakur winning by KO could be the right bet for you.

I agree though, his knockout percentage is not even 50%, so most likely it will be a long and deliberate fight for him against Yoshino, unless he become a big hitter and Yoshino doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

It might be better though for me at least, so just sit out this match.

And wait for the outcome because the next fight might be the good one to bet. Shakur vs the winner of Haney vs Loma.

If you can take that risk and you are aiming for a considerable profit then it's on you to decide. I mean, knowing the strategy
of Shakur, he will continue to seek for his advantage in winning by UD.

Unless he's camp already change his strategy and starts practicing him on a KO base fight, we can't tell if how things will proceed.

It's on the bettors' decision whether to bet on KO or UD, but most likely Shakur is the favorite here.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: AmoreJaz on February 27, 2023, 09:03:38 PM
But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.
The winning method odds for Shakur to win via knockout should be high because he's not a knockout artist, so it would be profitable if you want to bet that's option. Yoshino haven't lose in any fight and he tend to win via knockout, so it's quite hard to judge how good his chin. I still think Shakur win via decision is high likely to happen, but the odds still not included and if it's not worth, it's better for me to bet via knockout.

Exactly, the likelihood of Shakur winning by KO is not high. Would you bet on Shakur to win via KO, knowing his boring strategy in boxing? Personally, I doubt that he will win by KO in this fight. Most likely, it will still go the full 12 rounds, and he will win via unanimous decision. However, if you like to have fun and are willing to take the risk, then Shakur winning by KO could be the right bet for you.

I agree though, his knockout percentage is not even 50%, so most likely it will be a long and deliberate fight for him against Yoshino, unless he become a big hitter and Yoshino doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

It might be better though for me at least, so just sit out this match.

And wait for the outcome because the next fight might be the good one to bet. Shakur vs the winner of Haney vs Loma.

If you can take that risk and you are aiming for a considerable profit then it's on you to decide. I mean, knowing the strategy
of Shakur, he will continue to seek for his advantage in winning by UD.

Unless he's camp already change his strategy and starts practicing him on a KO base fight, we can't tell if how things will proceed.

It's on the bettors' decision whether to bet on KO or UD, but most likely Shakur is the favorite here.

also, shakur's name rings a bell more than his japanese opponent. so yeah, i agree that shakur will be the favourite of bookies here. if you are not very sure about the winning method for this match, you can always place a bet in the major betting line. but in my opinion, shakur will likely win on this match. but should not be confident as the KO percentage of yoshino is about 75% as compared to 47% for shakur.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Baofeng on February 27, 2023, 10:17:10 PM
But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.
The winning method odds for Shakur to win via knockout should be high because he's not a knockout artist, so it would be profitable if you want to bet that's option. Yoshino haven't lose in any fight and he tend to win via knockout, so it's quite hard to judge how good his chin. I still think Shakur win via decision is high likely to happen, but the odds still not included and if it's not worth, it's better for me to bet via knockout.

Exactly, the likelihood of Shakur winning by KO is not high. Would you bet on Shakur to win via KO, knowing his boring strategy in boxing? Personally, I doubt that he will win by KO in this fight. Most likely, it will still go the full 12 rounds, and he will win via unanimous decision. However, if you like to have fun and are willing to take the risk, then Shakur winning by KO could be the right bet for you.

I agree though, his knockout percentage is not even 50%, so most likely it will be a long and deliberate fight for him against Yoshino, unless he become a big hitter and Yoshino doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

It might be better though for me at least, so just sit out this match.

And wait for the outcome because the next fight might be the good one to bet. Shakur vs the winner of Haney vs Loma.

If you can take that risk and you are aiming for a considerable profit then it's on you to decide. I mean, knowing the strategy
of Shakur, he will continue to seek for his advantage in winning by UD.

Unless he's camp already change his strategy and starts practicing him on a KO base fight, we can't tell if how things will proceed.

It's on the bettors' decision whether to bet on KO or UD, but most likely Shakur is the favorite here.

also, shakur's name rings a bell more than his japanese opponent. so yeah, i agree that shakur will be the favourite of bookies here. if you are not very sure about the winning method for this match, you can always place a bet in the major betting line. but in my opinion, shakur will likely win on this match. but should not be confident as the KO percentage of yoshino is about 75% as compared to 47% for shakur.

I check 2 sports bookies and so far the only is odds listed is the ML, so no value if we are going to bet on Shakur. But if we wanted to go for the Japanese underdog at 7.x, now is the time to bet (but as I have said, the chances are slim to win either by decision or ko/tko).

So let's wait for more line to be offered, maybe we can see some value if there will be more options for Shakur like winning by decision or even winning by knockout or which round. Maybe the referee will have to stop it when he sees the Japanese taking more damage from Shakur jab and pin point accuracy in this match.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: carlisle1 on February 28, 2023, 06:24:07 PM

I check 2 sports bookies and so far the only is odds listed is the ML, so no value if we are going to bet on Shakur. But if we wanted to go for the Japanese underdog at 7.x, now is the time to bet (but as I have said, the chances are slim to win either by decision or ko/tko).

So let's wait for more line to be offered, maybe we can see some value if there will be more options for Shakur like winning by decision or even winning by knockout or which round. Maybe the referee will have to stop it when he sees the Japanese taking more damage from Shakur jab and pin point accuracy in this match.

Enticing for gambler who love to take the big risk and hope for some luck, 7x of your initial bet would be nice if the Japanese
fighter will manage to upset Shakur.

For sure, there are gamblers who will take the ML for Shakur even the winning odd is small, some might place a big amount to win
decently.

While for loyal fans who support Shakur, chances that even with small possible winnings it will add to their enjoyment while
watching the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: goldkingcoiner on February 28, 2023, 06:38:13 PM
^^ I would agree, decent to good opponent for Shakur but I doubt that he can upset Stevenson at this point. So I will have to put Shakur here winning maybe by a knockout or complete domination of the fight.

No offense to the Japanese fighter, he had the belt in Asia, beat Nakatani who gave Teo Lopez all he can handle and also fought Loma in his comeback fight. But that is not enough resume to beat the likes of Shakur right now.

Shuichiro Yoshino is an impressive boxer and I do not doubt that he will give Shakur Stevenson a good fight and maybe even make Shakur sweat nervously a bit. But there is no denying that Shakur is going to be the winner of this upcoming match. Absolutely no doubt in my mind. That is just how good Shakur is. Yoshino is a promising boxer but he does not have the necessary skills and experience to fight against the big dogs.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Japinat on March 02, 2023, 05:18:08 PM
But it's slim though, we all know how good Shakur is and he wouldn't let someone deter his goals of fighting for the belt next. So we should lean on Shakur with a big win via ko/tko.
The winning method odds for Shakur to win via knockout should be high because he's not a knockout artist, so it would be profitable if you want to bet that's option. Yoshino haven't lose in any fight and he tend to win via knockout, so it's quite hard to judge how good his chin. I still think Shakur win via decision is high likely to happen, but the odds still not included and if it's not worth, it's better for me to bet via knockout.

Exactly, the likelihood of Shakur winning by KO is not high. Would you bet on Shakur to win via KO, knowing his boring strategy in boxing? Personally, I doubt that he will win by KO in this fight. Most likely, it will still go the full 12 rounds, and he will win via unanimous decision. However, if you like to have fun and are willing to take the risk, then Shakur winning by KO could be the right bet for you.

I agree though, his knockout percentage is not even 50%, so most likely it will be a long and deliberate fight for him against Yoshino, unless he become a big hitter and Yoshino doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

It might be better though for me at least, so just sit out this match.

And wait for the outcome because the next fight might be the good one to bet. Shakur vs the winner of Haney vs Loma.

If you can take that risk and you are aiming for a considerable profit then it's on you to decide. I mean, knowing the strategy
of Shakur, he will continue to seek for his advantage in winning by UD.

Unless he's camp already change his strategy and starts practicing him on a KO base fight, we can't tell if how things will proceed.

It's on the bettors' decision whether to bet on KO or UD, but most likely Shakur is the favorite here.

also, shakur's name rings a bell more than his japanese opponent. so yeah, i agree that shakur will be the favourite of bookies here. if you are not very sure about the winning method for this match, you can always place a bet in the major betting line. but in my opinion, shakur will likely win on this match. but should not be confident as the KO percentage of yoshino is about 75% as compared to 47% for shakur.

Who would not know about who is Shakur Stevenson when the man almost dominated the whole super featherweight and if it weren't for his weight issues, he could've defeated Robson legally and probably will become the undisputed champion in the years to come. But it is what it is, he is now campaigning at lightweight where there's so many huge names in the same division. It might unfortunate for the Japanese boxer but I strongly think that he's just a stepping stone.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Baofeng on March 02, 2023, 11:34:02 PM

I check 2 sports bookies and so far the only is odds listed is the ML, so no value if we are going to bet on Shakur. But if we wanted to go for the Japanese underdog at 7.x, now is the time to bet (but as I have said, the chances are slim to win either by decision or ko/tko).

So let's wait for more line to be offered, maybe we can see some value if there will be more options for Shakur like winning by decision or even winning by knockout or which round. Maybe the referee will have to stop it when he sees the Japanese taking more damage from Shakur jab and pin point accuracy in this match.

Enticing for gambler who love to take the big risk and hope for some luck, 7x of your initial bet would be nice if the Japanese
fighter will manage to upset Shakur.

Yes, there might be some gamblers willing to take that huge risk and bet on the underdog here. Perhaps some of his Japanese might will do.

For sure, there are gamblers who will take the ML for Shakur even the winning odd is small, some might place a big amount to win
decently.

While for loyal fans who support Shakur, chances that even with small possible winnings it will add to their enjoyment while
watching the fight.

On the other hard, there is also Shakur's fan, not sure though if they are taking that ML because the returns are not profitable, unless they are whales or have deep pockets. Of course or money will be on Shakur, but we will have to wait for other betting options, to at least get a good odds for or money in this fight. Decision or later stoppage might be a good option to look at this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Yaunfitda on March 03, 2023, 07:30:11 AM

I check 2 sports bookies and so far the only is odds listed is the ML, so no value if we are going to bet on Shakur. But if we wanted to go for the Japanese underdog at 7.x, now is the time to bet (but as I have said, the chances are slim to win either by decision or ko/tko).

So let's wait for more line to be offered, maybe we can see some value if there will be more options for Shakur like winning by decision or even winning by knockout or which round. Maybe the referee will have to stop it when he sees the Japanese taking more damage from Shakur jab and pin point accuracy in this match.

Enticing for gambler who love to take the big risk and hope for some luck, 7x of your initial bet would be nice if the Japanese
fighter will manage to upset Shakur.

For sure, there are gamblers who will take the ML for Shakur even the winning odd is small, some might place a big amount to win
decently.

While for loyal fans who support Shakur, chances that even with small possible winnings it will add to their enjoyment while
watching the fight.
Nah, smart money should be on Shakur Stevenson and not on Yoshino. For me even with that huge odds for him, I wouldn't take that bite, just saying. Shakur will be too good for Yoshino in this fight. This is the Japanese first fight out of his native home country, and so there will be adjustment because this is a big stage and he might not take the limelight. As for what will be the good bet for Shakur, we will have to wait and see then. No value for ML, but if there are more options, then obviously we are going to bet on that with a higher odds.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Yamifoud on March 03, 2023, 08:26:31 AM

Nah, smart money should be on Shakur Stevenson and not on Yoshino. For me even with that huge odds for him, I wouldn't take that bite, just saying. Shakur will be too good for Yoshino in this fight. This is the Japanese first fight out of his native home country, and so there will be adjustment because this is a big stage and he might not take the limelight. As for what will be the good bet for Shakur, we will have to wait and see then. No value for ML, but if there are more options, then obviously we are going to bet on that with a higher odds.

I agree with you. No one will bet on this underdog since he is not even popular. Betting on Shakur does not necessarily mean you'll take the moneyline. There are other betting options, such as betting on the specific round Yoshino will be knocked out, or the range of rounds, which typically groups every three rounds. If you want higher odds, then bet on Shakur to win via KO. Based on his previous fights, he is not really a KO artist.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: btc_angela on March 03, 2023, 10:14:24 AM

Nah, smart money should be on Shakur Stevenson and not on Yoshino. For me even with that huge odds for him, I wouldn't take that bite, just saying. Shakur will be too good for Yoshino in this fight. This is the Japanese first fight out of his native home country, and so there will be adjustment because this is a big stage and he might not take the limelight. As for what will be the good bet for Shakur, we will have to wait and see then. No value for ML, but if there are more options, then obviously we are going to bet on that with a higher odds.

I agree with you. No one will bet on this underdog since he is not even popular. Betting on Shakur does not necessarily mean you'll take the moneyline. There are other betting options, such as betting on the specific round Yoshino will be knocked out, or the range of rounds, which typically groups every three rounds. If you want higher odds, then bet on Shakur to win via KO. Based on his previous fights, he is not really a KO artist.

Yep, ML is not attractive odds are very low t o bet on it.

Currently on my favorite sports bookies, the over/under rounds is 10.5 and it seems that the under looks juicy at 3.80 already, so I might look for that odds as this fight will not go to judges scorecard and Shakur might stop him with body shots.

And Shakur b KO/TKO = 3.75.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Japinat on March 03, 2023, 08:55:45 PM

Nah, smart money should be on Shakur Stevenson and not on Yoshino. For me even with that huge odds for him, I wouldn't take that bite, just saying. Shakur will be too good for Yoshino in this fight. This is the Japanese first fight out of his native home country, and so there will be adjustment because this is a big stage and he might not take the limelight. As for what will be the good bet for Shakur, we will have to wait and see then. No value for ML, but if there are more options, then obviously we are going to bet on that with a higher odds.

I agree with you. No one will bet on this underdog since he is not even popular. Betting on Shakur does not necessarily mean you'll take the moneyline. There are other betting options, such as betting on the specific round Yoshino will be knocked out, or the range of rounds, which typically groups every three rounds. If you want higher odds, then bet on Shakur to win via KO. Based on his previous fights, he is not really a KO artist.

Even if we say Yoshino is popular, it's still not advisable to bet on him because the odds itself suggests that his chances are not that good against Shakur Stevenson if this is the latter's first fight in the weight class. Talking about the present odds, it's already expected that the ML is really not juicy because a 7:1? That's much more worse than the Butler-Inoue fight.
Hopefully, the bookies will release more betting options much sooner as we're already a month away from the fight date.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Baofeng on March 03, 2023, 11:18:10 PM

Nah, smart money should be on Shakur Stevenson and not on Yoshino. For me even with that huge odds for him, I wouldn't take that bite, just saying. Shakur will be too good for Yoshino in this fight. This is the Japanese first fight out of his native home country, and so there will be adjustment because this is a big stage and he might not take the limelight. As for what will be the good bet for Shakur, we will have to wait and see then. No value for ML, but if there are more options, then obviously we are going to bet on that with a higher odds.

I agree with you. No one will bet on this underdog since he is not even popular. Betting on Shakur does not necessarily mean you'll take the moneyline. There are other betting options, such as betting on the specific round Yoshino will be knocked out, or the range of rounds, which typically groups every three rounds. If you want higher odds, then bet on Shakur to win via KO. Based on his previous fights, he is not really a KO artist.

Even if we say Yoshino is popular, it's still not advisable to bet on him because the odds itself suggests that his chances are not that good against Shakur Stevenson if this is the latter's first fight in the weight class. Talking about the present odds, it's already expected that the ML is really not juicy because a 7:1? That's much more worse than the Butler-Inoue fight.
Hopefully, the bookies will release more betting options much sooner as we're already a month away from the fight date.

Yes, that thing with Yoshino is that he is not stateside, so bookies and fans are not familiar with him. Although we might see in his records that he is good, but still he is facing an American fighter who is in his prime and rising in ranks.

Bookies already released more options already mate, you can check it out already:

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/19/blob9fa94a2edc96ea9c.png


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: freedomgo on March 04, 2023, 07:51:05 PM

Nah, smart money should be on Shakur Stevenson and not on Yoshino. For me even with that huge odds for him, I wouldn't take that bite, just saying. Shakur will be too good for Yoshino in this fight. This is the Japanese first fight out of his native home country, and so there will be adjustment because this is a big stage and he might not take the limelight. As for what will be the good bet for Shakur, we will have to wait and see then. No value for ML, but if there are more options, then obviously we are going to bet on that with a higher odds.

I agree with you. No one will bet on this underdog since he is not even popular. Betting on Shakur does not necessarily mean you'll take the moneyline. There are other betting options, such as betting on the specific round Yoshino will be knocked out, or the range of rounds, which typically groups every three rounds. If you want higher odds, then bet on Shakur to win via KO. Based on his previous fights, he is not really a KO artist.

Even if we say Yoshino is popular, it's still not advisable to bet on him because the odds itself suggests that his chances are not that good against Shakur Stevenson if this is the latter's first fight in the weight class. Talking about the present odds, it's already expected that the ML is really not juicy because a 7:1? That's much more worse than the Butler-Inoue fight.
Hopefully, the bookies will release more betting options much sooner as we're already a month away from the fight date.

Yes, that thing with Yoshino is that he is not stateside, so bookies and fans are not familiar with him. Although we might see in his records that he is good, but still he is facing an American fighter who is in his prime and rising in ranks.

Bookies already released more options already mate, you can check it out already:

https://i.imgur.com/DMAYRa6.png

See? A 25.00 odds for Yoshino to win by a way of decision. Imagine if Shakur will get upset in this fight, that's an instant big payday but in reality, that's not really likely. The power difference between him and Shakur is so wide that you can't even imagine the latter being defeated in this battle.

But for Shakur's odds, I might check that out again before this month ends as 3.80 seems decent enough for me. Shakur to win via KO is not that impossible, just a thought.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Natalim on March 05, 2023, 08:14:08 PM

Nah, smart money should be on Shakur Stevenson and not on Yoshino. For me even with that huge odds for him, I wouldn't take that bite, just saying. Shakur will be too good for Yoshino in this fight. This is the Japanese first fight out of his native home country, and so there will be adjustment because this is a big stage and he might not take the limelight. As for what will be the good bet for Shakur, we will have to wait and see then. No value for ML, but if there are more options, then obviously we are going to bet on that with a higher odds.

I agree with you. No one will bet on this underdog since he is not even popular. Betting on Shakur does not necessarily mean you'll take the moneyline. There are other betting options, such as betting on the specific round Yoshino will be knocked out, or the range of rounds, which typically groups every three rounds. If you want higher odds, then bet on Shakur to win via KO. Based on his previous fights, he is not really a KO artist.

Even if we say Yoshino is popular, it's still not advisable to bet on him because the odds itself suggests that his chances are not that good against Shakur Stevenson if this is the latter's first fight in the weight class. Talking about the present odds, it's already expected that the ML is really not juicy because a 7:1? That's much more worse than the Butler-Inoue fight.
Hopefully, the bookies will release more betting options much sooner as we're already a month away from the fight date.

Yes, that thing with Yoshino is that he is not stateside, so bookies and fans are not familiar with him. Although we might see in his records that he is good, but still he is facing an American fighter who is in his prime and rising in ranks.

Bookies already released more options already mate, you can check it out already:

https://i.imgur.com/DMAYRa6.png

See? A 25.00 odds for Yoshino to win by a way of decision. Imagine if Shakur will get upset in this fight, that's an instant big payday but in reality, that's not really likely. The power difference between him and Shakur is so wide that you can't even imagine the latter being defeated in this battle.

But for Shakur's odds, I might check that out again before this month ends as 3.80 seems decent enough for me. Shakur to win via KO is not that impossible, just a thought.
Yes, that odds might be juicy and tempting to see but it's not that realistic because the Japanese pride is not that well known to be a strong boxer or somehow a treat to Shakur's career especially in this time where it is the latter's first fight at 135 pounds. But for those bettors who likes betting on a heavy underdog, this is for them.

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But for Shakur's odds, I might check that out again before this month ends as 3.80 seems decent enough for me. Shakur to win via KO is not that impossible, just a thought.
Don't forget that these odds might change overtime and that 3.80 is decent enough because that is by a way of KO/TKO in favor of Shakur.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: serjent05 on March 05, 2023, 09:29:26 PM
I check 2 sports bookies and so far the only is odds listed is the ML, so no value if we are going to bet on Shakur. But if we wanted to go for the Japanese underdog at 7.x, now is the time to bet (but as I have said, the chances are slim to win either by decision or ko/tko).

So let's wait for more line to be offered, maybe we can see some value if there will be more options for Shakur like winning by decision or even winning by knockout or which round. Maybe the referee will have to stop it when he sees the Japanese taking more damage from Shakur jab and pin point accuracy in this match.

Betting on the Japanese underdog is like throwing money.  Looking at their record, it is clear that the Japanese has been fighting local boxers so the quality of his opponent is probably not that great.  The Japanese boxer is bound to lose here, and probably via early KO or stoppage.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: o48o on March 05, 2023, 11:13:19 PM

Betting on the Japanese underdog is like throwing money.  Looking at their record, it is clear that the Japanese has been fighting local boxers so the quality of his opponent is probably not that great.  The Japanese boxer is bound to lose here, and probably via early KO or stoppage.
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I've seen few of Yoshino's fights. He is tough as a nail and i really doubt for KO. Most likely 12 rounds, or at least that's what i am betting. I would also so much like to see him winning but that's a bit far fetched as he seems weaker than Shakur, but i might bet that just for high multiplier. I like more or less irrational betting when there's enough incentive.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Viscore on March 06, 2023, 06:00:47 PM
^^ I would agree, decent to good opponent for Shakur but I doubt that he can upset Stevenson at this point. So I will have to put Shakur here winning maybe by a knockout or complete domination of the fight.

No offense to the Japanese fighter, he had the belt in Asia, beat Nakatani who gave Teo Lopez all he can handle and also fought Loma in his comeback fight. But that is not enough resume to beat the likes of Shakur right now.
Same feedback here. This Japanese boxer may have achieved past winning performances but I don’t see him a perfect match for Shakur. Though both are professionals on their own career, but seeing this Japanese boxer past performances, I would say he won’t easily beat Shakur because Shakur is definitely a tough and hard to beat opponent. Still, this will test them both who will dominate the fight and maybe still make a good fight in the end.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Baofeng on March 06, 2023, 11:47:22 PM
^^ I would agree, decent to good opponent for Shakur but I doubt that he can upset Stevenson at this point. So I will have to put Shakur here winning maybe by a knockout or complete domination of the fight.

No offense to the Japanese fighter, he had the belt in Asia, beat Nakatani who gave Teo Lopez all he can handle and also fought Loma in his comeback fight. But that is not enough resume to beat the likes of Shakur right now.
Same feedback here. This Japanese boxer may have achieved past winning performances but I don’t see him a perfect match for Shakur. Though both are professionals on their own career, but seeing this Japanese boxer past performances, I would say he won’t easily beat Shakur because Shakur is definitely a tough and hard to beat opponent. Still, this will test them both who will dominate the fight and maybe still make a good fight in the end.

Speaking of Nakatani, this is the video of their fight,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4-V1g25bKY

And you'll be the judge if Yoshino has the tools to beat a great fighter in Stevenson. I think if Shakur wanted to score a knockout, he can do that in this fight, just saying. And looking at the odds, it's very much as juicy as we can take, it's 3.x, hehehe. And I don't think that odds will change, we can make that beat even at the fight date is closer.  :)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: carlisle1 on March 08, 2023, 08:37:44 AM
I check 2 sports bookies and so far the only is odds listed is the ML, so no value if we are going to bet on Shakur. But if we wanted to go for the Japanese underdog at 7.x, now is the time to bet (but as I have said, the chances are slim to win either by decision or ko/tko).

So let's wait for more line to be offered, maybe we can see some value if there will be more options for Shakur like winning by decision or even winning by knockout or which round. Maybe the referee will have to stop it when he sees the Japanese taking more damage from Shakur jab and pin point accuracy in this match.

Betting on the Japanese underdog is like throwing money.  Looking at their record, it is clear that the Japanese has been fighting local boxers so the quality of his opponent is probably not that great.  The Japanese boxer is bound to lose here, and probably via early KO or stoppage.

Unless there's upset or a lucky punch that will convert to shake Shakur which really surprise everyone, but yeah, getting your point
with the types of those previous fight that Yoshino before.

That's far from the quality of Shakur and I also anticipate that the chance of KO can take place in between, Shakur is far superior for Yoshino


We will see that when they already inside the ring and showcasing their individual skills.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: inthelongrun on March 08, 2023, 10:04:05 AM
^^ I would agree, decent to good opponent for Shakur but I doubt that he can upset Stevenson at this point. So I will have to put Shakur here winning maybe by a knockout or complete domination of the fight.

No offense to the Japanese fighter, he had the belt in Asia, beat Nakatani who gave Teo Lopez all he can handle and also fought Loma in his comeback fight. But that is not enough resume to beat the likes of Shakur right now.

Shuichiro Yoshino is an impressive boxer and I do not doubt that he will give Shakur Stevenson a good fight and maybe even make Shakur sweat nervously a bit. But there is no denying that Shakur is going to be the winner of this upcoming match. Absolutely no doubt in my mind. That is just how good Shakur is. Yoshino is a promising boxer but he does not have the necessary skills and experience to fight against the big dogs.

Yoshino might have beaten Nakatani by TKO but he will be facing probably the quickest hand speed and footwork in boxing right now. And Shakur is always overloaded with confidence and he will be more confident than ever since he is back in front of his hometown. Shakur is not heavy-handed but there is really a chance of him stopping Yoshino if the Japanese cannot earn his respect in the early rounds. Maybe Shakur's chin is untested, especially in this division so this is the chance for Yoshino to test it.

If Haney will win over Loma and won't move up in weight, imagine how big the fight will be between him and Shakur. Tank and Kingry can only watch and envy because they don't dare to be great. :D


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 08, 2023, 12:23:15 PM
Yoshino might have beaten Nakatani by TKO but he will be facing probably the quickest hand speed and footwork in boxing right now. 

If Haney will win over Loma and won't move up in weight, imagine how big the fight will be between him and Shakur. Tank and Kingry can only watch and envy because they don't dare to be great. :D
Then there's also a chance Shakur can win via TKO against Yoshino because he can make Yoshino can't fight with him due to different level of technicalities. Shakur is smart, but he just lack of power.

I think both of Tank and Garcia know if they're not good enough to beat Loma or Haney, but at least they fight with each other to fulfill the hope from boxing fans and after that they will high likely move to the next weight.



Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Dave1 on March 08, 2023, 05:09:05 PM
Yoshino might have beaten Nakatani by TKO but he will be facing probably the quickest hand speed and footwork in boxing right now. 

If Haney will win over Loma and won't move up in weight, imagine how big the fight will be between him and Shakur. Tank and Kingry can only watch and envy because they don't dare to be great. :D
Then there's also a chance Shakur can win via TKO against Yoshino because he can make Yoshino can't fight with him due to different level of technicalities. Shakur is smart, but he just lack of power.

But this could be his chance to win a knockout? And maybe why they chosen Yoshino to be their opponent and let him travel to the US. Perhaps they want Shakur to go and score a statement win via knockout in his hometown.

I think both of Tank and Garcia know if they're not good enough to beat Loma or Haney, but at least they fight with each other to fulfill the hope from boxing fans and after that they will high likely move to the next weight.

Both will have to move up to 140, Tank and Garcia, but it seems that it might be Tank who's more willing to fight Shakur though as Stevenson has been calling his name for a while now.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: goldkingcoiner on March 08, 2023, 07:03:06 PM
^^ I would agree, decent to good opponent for Shakur but I doubt that he can upset Stevenson at this point. So I will have to put Shakur here winning maybe by a knockout or complete domination of the fight.

No offense to the Japanese fighter, he had the belt in Asia, beat Nakatani who gave Teo Lopez all he can handle and also fought Loma in his comeback fight. But that is not enough resume to beat the likes of Shakur right now.

Shuichiro Yoshino is an impressive boxer and I do not doubt that he will give Shakur Stevenson a good fight and maybe even make Shakur sweat nervously a bit. But there is no denying that Shakur is going to be the winner of this upcoming match. Absolutely no doubt in my mind. That is just how good Shakur is. Yoshino is a promising boxer but he does not have the necessary skills and experience to fight against the big dogs.

Yoshino might have beaten Nakatani by TKO but he will be facing probably the quickest hand speed and footwork in boxing right now. And Shakur is always overloaded with confidence and he will be more confident than ever since he is back in front of his hometown. Shakur is not heavy-handed but there is really a chance of him stopping Yoshino if the Japanese cannot earn his respect in the early rounds. Maybe Shakur's chin is untested, especially in this division so this is the chance for Yoshino to test it.

If Haney will win over Loma and won't move up in weight, imagine how big the fight will be between him and Shakur. Tank and Kingry can only watch and envy because they don't dare to be great. :D

I too think that Yoshino will definitely try to go for Shakur's chin early in on the match and we might be in for a surprise, depending on how good Shakur can dodge or even take hits. Do we find out at long last that Shakur has a glass jaw? I hope not. But it will be an interesting thing to find out, nonetheless. Especially when it comes to placing future bets on him, we will know all his strong and weak points.

As to the TKO, I doubt that its smart to bet on Yoshino pulling off a TKO. It did not seem like it was Yoshinos strategy when he fought against Nakatani. Rather an improvised, quick decision.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Kemarit on March 08, 2023, 07:10:38 PM
^^ I would agree, decent to good opponent for Shakur but I doubt that he can upset Stevenson at this point. So I will have to put Shakur here winning maybe by a knockout or complete domination of the fight.

No offense to the Japanese fighter, he had the belt in Asia, beat Nakatani who gave Teo Lopez all he can handle and also fought Loma in his comeback fight. But that is not enough resume to beat the likes of Shakur right now.

Shuichiro Yoshino is an impressive boxer and I do not doubt that he will give Shakur Stevenson a good fight and maybe even make Shakur sweat nervously a bit. But there is no denying that Shakur is going to be the winner of this upcoming match. Absolutely no doubt in my mind. That is just how good Shakur is. Yoshino is a promising boxer but he does not have the necessary skills and experience to fight against the big dogs.

Yoshino might have beaten Nakatani by TKO but he will be facing probably the quickest hand speed and footwork in boxing right now. And Shakur is always overloaded with confidence and he will be more confident than ever since he is back in front of his hometown. Shakur is not heavy-handed but there is really a chance of him stopping Yoshino if the Japanese cannot earn his respect in the early rounds. Maybe Shakur's chin is untested, especially in this division so this is the chance for Yoshino to test it.

If Haney will win over Loma and won't move up in weight, imagine how big the fight will be between him and Shakur. Tank and Kingry can only watch and envy because they don't dare to be great. :D

I too think that Yoshino will definitely try to go for Shakur's chin early in on the match and we might be in for a surprise, depending on how good Shakur can dodge or even take hits. Do we find out at long last that Shakur has a glass jaw? I hope not. But it will be an interesting thing to find out, nonetheless. Especially when it comes to placing future bets on him, we will know all his strong and weak points.

As to the TKO, I doubt that its smart to bet on Yoshino pulling off a TKO. It did not seem like it was Yoshinos strategy when he fought against Nakatani. Rather an improvised, quick decision.

Good question, but I think in his last 3 fights against world class boxers, his chin was definitely tested specially by Robson and Oscar Valdez, but he did survived and win that fight.

So for me, it's the other way around, Shakur will go after Yoshino's chin early because he wants to impressed his local fans and doesn't want to be a boring fight in front of his home town.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: mirakal on March 08, 2023, 09:14:30 PM
Yoshino might have beaten Nakatani by TKO but he will be facing probably the quickest hand speed and footwork in boxing right now. 

If Haney will win over Loma and won't move up in weight, imagine how big the fight will be between him and Shakur. Tank and Kingry can only watch and envy because they don't dare to be great. :D
Then there's also a chance Shakur can win via TKO against Yoshino because he can make Yoshino can't fight with him due to different level of technicalities. Shakur is smart, but he just lack of power.

But this could be his chance to win a knockout? And maybe why they chosen Yoshino to be their opponent and let him travel to the US. Perhaps they want Shakur to go and score a statement win via knockout in his hometown.

It could be, Shakur's ratio might be 47% and got a much lower ratio than the Japanese but I cannot really include that as basis because the latter is more of a local boxer to me because all of his fight are being held inside Japan, hence why most of his title are labeled as Asia Pacific. I'm more inclined that there's a good reason why Shakur's camp chose Yoshino and that is to highlight his debut.

I think both of Tank and Garcia know if they're not good enough to beat Loma or Haney, but at least they fight with each other to fulfill the hope from boxing fans and after that they will high likely move to the next weight.

Both will have to move up to 140, Tank and Garcia, but it seems that it might be Tank who's more willing to fight Shakur though as Stevenson has been calling his name for a while now.

As of now, the upcoming undisputed champion is not yet due to any mandatory fights, whether if it's Loma or Haney. And in the recent talks before the Loma-Haney fight was established, Haney wanted Shakur because in his own words, he wanted a much interesting fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Ryker1 on March 08, 2023, 11:43:09 PM
[snip]
It could be, Shakur's ratio might be 47% and got a much lower ratio than the Japanese but I cannot really include that as basis because the latter is more of a local boxer to me because all of his fight are being held inside Japan, hence why most of his title are labeled as Asia Pacific. I'm more inclined that there's a good reason why Shakur's camp chose Yoshino and that is to highlight his debut.
It could be the right ratio --perhaps that is true that Shuichiro Yoshino may have a higher win ratio than Shakur Stevenson, but sometimes we give to consider the level of competition each boxer has faced. But we should not be comfortable with that --Shakur Stevenson has already established himself as a world-class boxer, having won a silver medal at the 2016 Olympics and held the WBO featherweight title and I think it is also a great consideration for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 10, 2023, 06:59:06 PM
Their record is well paired. Both have an undefeated record and have power punches that can knock out their opponent.  Though I have a feeling that this will be an easy fight for Shakur Stevenson since looking at the quality of the opponent, Stevenson has faced a better opponent and beat them.  This will be a test for the Japanese fighter if he can be as hot as Naoya Inoue in terms of dominating the ring.

Both boxers wanted the rewards that is earned after this fight but only one of them will continue successfully as a draw in this bout is very unlikely to happen and besides, we both know here who got the right talent to continue on his journey and who doesn't have what it takes to take the said reward. Shakur is on a campaign to get either Haney or Loma, so I don't really think that he'll just give this Japanese guy an easy way in.

I think this fight will have one fighter kissing the canvas since both have devastating power punches.

In terms of record, yes, it is well paired but on power level? I guess no, we probably know why as even the bookies gave 7:1 underdog odds to Yoshino despite having a good record but that record was just established inside Japan, so more like a localize fights rather than being held in an international ring like this bout.

Still though, we shouldn't be careless because there are some cases that the heavy underdogs will rise from the mud and defeat the favorite. But in this case, I definitely think that the chances are really slim and it's just unfortunate for Yoshino because he's being paired with Shakur.

Well, in my personal opinion, I see Shakur much better, of course, the statistics and all the probabilities can point to a fixed number and that the entire result will probably be like this, Shuichiro is a rather peculiar boxer and what he can give is the surprise factor and that is what should be studied, nothing is lost if Shuichiro tries, but Shakur has a better position than him, better technique and in terms of strategy he could generate more, I say this in terms of training and experience, and although I do not like to underestimate anyone Shakur has shown it in his fights.

Shuichiro can surprise, what is not known is how much he has been training and the way he has done it, for me if he concentrates in the fight he can give the blow.

Stevenson and Yoshino will clash in a WBC eliminatory

https://i.imgur.com/ObtACGU.png

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Undefeated former two-division champion Shakur Stevenson will take on hard-hitting Japanese Shuichiro Yoshino in a 12-round WBC lightweight world title elimination bout on Saturday, April 8 at the Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey.

Stevenson (19-0, 9 KOs), former featherweight and super featherweight champion, returns home after his win against Robson Conceição last September
WBC top ranked Yoshino (16-0, 12 KOs) is a former champion from Japan who had a 104-20 record as an amateur. After seven defenses of his Japanese national lightweight belt, Yoshino is currently ranked No. 5 in the world after an impressive 2022.

Source: https://wbcboxing.com/en/stevenson-and-yoshino-will-clash-in-a-wbc-eliminatory/ (https://wbcboxing.com/en/stevenson-and-yoshino-will-clash-in-a-wbc-eliminatory/)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: TravelMug on March 10, 2023, 07:32:01 PM
[snip]
It could be, Shakur's ratio might be 47% and got a much lower ratio than the Japanese but I cannot really include that as basis because the latter is more of a local boxer to me because all of his fight are being held inside Japan, hence why most of his title are labeled as Asia Pacific. I'm more inclined that there's a good reason why Shakur's camp chose Yoshino and that is to highlight his debut.
It could be the right ratio --perhaps that is true that Shuichiro Yoshino may have a higher win ratio than Shakur Stevenson, but sometimes we give to consider the level of competition each boxer has faced. But we should not be comfortable with that --Shakur Stevenson has already established himself as a world-class boxer, having won a silver medal at the 2016 Olympics and held the WBO featherweight title and I think it is also a great consideration for him.

Exactly, it's the level of opposition too, that we need to look at and not just the record per se. So maybe Yoshino has more fights and high knockout ratio, but it doesn't mean that he is the better of the two.

Still boils down on who this fighter has, on the other hand, just the last 3 fighters that Shakur face might not be enough for the whole resume of the Japanese to match, just saying. So that alone shows how both fighters are very different, and it is reflected on the odds itself.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Sanitough on March 11, 2023, 01:41:51 PM
[snip]
It could be, Shakur's ratio might be 47% and got a much lower ratio than the Japanese but I cannot really include that as basis because the latter is more of a local boxer to me because all of his fight are being held inside Japan, hence why most of his title are labeled as Asia Pacific. I'm more inclined that there's a good reason why Shakur's camp chose Yoshino and that is to highlight his debut.
It could be the right ratio --perhaps that is true that Shuichiro Yoshino may have a higher win ratio than Shakur Stevenson, but sometimes we give to consider the level of competition each boxer has faced. But we should not be comfortable with that --Shakur Stevenson has already established himself as a world-class boxer, having won a silver medal at the 2016 Olympics and held the WBO featherweight title and I think it is also a great consideration for him.

Exactly, it's the level of opposition too, that we need to look at and not just the record per se. So maybe Yoshino has more fights and high knockout ratio, but it doesn't mean that he is the better of the two.

Still boils down on who this fighter has, on the other hand, just the last 3 fighters that Shakur face might not be enough for the whole resume of the Japanese to match, just saying. So that alone shows how both fighters are very different, and it is reflected on the odds itself.

In terms of quickness and ring IQ, those belong to Stevenson. So even though Yoshino is a KO artist, I don't think he will be able to hit Stevenson with solid shots. That's a lot to ask for him, and since he isn't a popular boxer, I don't expect he will make it. This fight will most likely result in an additional win for Stevenson and an easy one at that.

As for the betting odds, Shakur is 1.08 to win.

https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: bittraffic on March 11, 2023, 03:22:30 PM
[snip]
It could be, Shakur's ratio might be 47% and got a much lower ratio than the Japanese but I cannot really include that as basis because the latter is more of a local boxer to me because all of his fight are being held inside Japan, hence why most of his title are labeled as Asia Pacific. I'm more inclined that there's a good reason why Shakur's camp chose Yoshino and that is to highlight his debut.
It could be the right ratio --perhaps that is true that Shuichiro Yoshino may have a higher win ratio than Shakur Stevenson, but sometimes we give to consider the level of competition each boxer has faced. But we should not be comfortable with that --Shakur Stevenson has already established himself as a world-class boxer, having won a silver medal at the 2016 Olympics and held the WBO featherweight title and I think it is also a great consideration for him.

Exactly, it's the level of opposition too, that we need to look at and not just the record per se. So maybe Yoshino has more fights and high knockout ratio, but it doesn't mean that he is the better of the two.

Still boils down on who this fighter has, on the other hand, just the last 3 fighters that Shakur face might not be enough for the whole resume of the Japanese to match, just saying. So that alone shows how both fighters are very different, and it is reflected on the odds itself.

In terms of quickness and ring IQ, those belong to Stevenson. So even though Yoshino is a KO artist, I don't think he will be able to hit Stevenson with solid shots. That's a lot to ask for him, and since he isn't a popular boxer, I don't expect he will make it. This fight will most likely result in an additional win for Stevenson and an easy one at that.

As for the betting odds, Shakur is 1.08 to win.

https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html

1.08 is such a nay!
But you only need to put in a really huge amount as it seems a safe bet unless Yoshino suddenly strikes a lucky lunch putting Shakur to sleep and there goes your money. Not very attractive odds but it's also obvious Yoshi is not popular internationally and with limited exposure. Why there were even matched to fight is surprising.



Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Baofeng on March 15, 2023, 10:10:17 PM
[snip]
It could be, Shakur's ratio might be 47% and got a much lower ratio than the Japanese but I cannot really include that as basis because the latter is more of a local boxer to me because all of his fight are being held inside Japan, hence why most of his title are labeled as Asia Pacific. I'm more inclined that there's a good reason why Shakur's camp chose Yoshino and that is to highlight his debut.
It could be the right ratio --perhaps that is true that Shuichiro Yoshino may have a higher win ratio than Shakur Stevenson, but sometimes we give to consider the level of competition each boxer has faced. But we should not be comfortable with that --Shakur Stevenson has already established himself as a world-class boxer, having won a silver medal at the 2016 Olympics and held the WBO featherweight title and I think it is also a great consideration for him.

Exactly, it's the level of opposition too, that we need to look at and not just the record per se. So maybe Yoshino has more fights and high knockout ratio, but it doesn't mean that he is the better of the two.

Still boils down on who this fighter has, on the other hand, just the last 3 fighters that Shakur face might not be enough for the whole resume of the Japanese to match, just saying. So that alone shows how both fighters are very different, and it is reflected on the odds itself.

In terms of quickness and ring IQ, those belong to Stevenson. So even though Yoshino is a KO artist, I don't think he will be able to hit Stevenson with solid shots. That's a lot to ask for him, and since he isn't a popular boxer, I don't expect he will make it. This fight will most likely result in an additional win for Stevenson and an easy one at that.

As for the betting odds, Shakur is 1.08 to win.

https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html

1.08 is such a nay!
But you only need to put in a really huge amount as it seems a safe bet unless Yoshino suddenly strikes a lucky lunch putting Shakur to sleep and there goes your money. Not very attractive odds but it's also obvious Yoshi is not popular internationally and with limited exposure. Why there were even matched to fight is surprising.

Yes, that is a big nah for us boxing bettors, it's not worth a risk to bet with that kind of odds, I have showed a few pages back what other betting options. But a ML like for Shakur has no value, we might as better just wait for other boxing events to where we gonna put our money with.

And speaking of Shakur here is a video wherein him and Haney run into each other on Top Rank's boxing gym.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQcZd3pTZlc

It's a bit funny, but who knows, maybe in the future, this two are going to fight in out for the belt as Shakur is going up to 135 lbs.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: stadus on March 15, 2023, 10:49:38 PM
[snip]
It could be, Shakur's ratio might be 47% and got a much lower ratio than the Japanese but I cannot really include that as basis because the latter is more of a local boxer to me because all of his fight are being held inside Japan, hence why most of his title are labeled as Asia Pacific. I'm more inclined that there's a good reason why Shakur's camp chose Yoshino and that is to highlight his debut.
It could be the right ratio --perhaps that is true that Shuichiro Yoshino may have a higher win ratio than Shakur Stevenson, but sometimes we give to consider the level of competition each boxer has faced. But we should not be comfortable with that --Shakur Stevenson has already established himself as a world-class boxer, having won a silver medal at the 2016 Olympics and held the WBO featherweight title and I think it is also a great consideration for him.

Exactly, it's the level of opposition too, that we need to look at and not just the record per se. So maybe Yoshino has more fights and high knockout ratio, but it doesn't mean that he is the better of the two.

Still boils down on who this fighter has, on the other hand, just the last 3 fighters that Shakur face might not be enough for the whole resume of the Japanese to match, just saying. So that alone shows how both fighters are very different, and it is reflected on the odds itself.

In terms of quickness and ring IQ, those belong to Stevenson. So even though Yoshino is a KO artist, I don't think he will be able to hit Stevenson with solid shots. That's a lot to ask for him, and since he isn't a popular boxer, I don't expect he will make it. This fight will most likely result in an additional win for Stevenson and an easy one at that.

As for the betting odds, Shakur is 1.08 to win.

https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html

1.08 is such a nay!
But you only need to put in a really huge amount as it seems a safe bet unless Yoshino suddenly strikes a lucky lunch putting Shakur to sleep and there goes your money. Not very attractive odds but it's also obvious Yoshi is not popular internationally and with limited exposure. Why there were even matched to fight is surprising.

Yes, ML is not that attractive considering that Shakur Stevenson is listed as heavy favorite by the bookies and certainly, you need to put a lot of funds for that moneyline before you can even consider the profits of your wager but putting a lot of funds into unattractive odds have a lot of risks entailed and surely nobody wanted that risks even if you're a bigtime gambler. I reckon that the Shakur win via KO/TKO might be much more profitable to bet since Shakur's ratio is just below 50 percent, let's just wait for another options in the weeks to come.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: coin-investor on March 15, 2023, 11:12:19 PM


Yes, ML is not that attractive considering that Shakur Stevenson is listed as heavy favorite by the bookies and certainly, you need to put a lot of funds for that moneyline before you can even consider the profits of your wager but putting a lot of funds into unattractive odds have a lot of risks entailed and surely nobody wanted that risks even if you're a bigtime gambler. I reckon that the Shakur win via KO/TKO might be much more profitable to bet since Shakur's ratio is just below 50 percent, let's just wait for another options in the weeks to come.

Shakur is a class fighter and we want to see him in big fights that will be considered a legacy fight after he hurdles this fight his handlers should secure a million-dollar legacy fights something like a Garcia - Davis fights or a Haney - Lomachenko.
this fight obviously lacks attention from the media because it's a cherry-picked fight its eclipsed by big fights but it's good that the fight will come early before big fights of the year.
All bookies will favor Shakur, it will shock the boxing world if he loses this fight.



Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: btc_angela on March 16, 2023, 11:37:30 AM
[snip]
It could be, Shakur's ratio might be 47% and got a much lower ratio than the Japanese but I cannot really include that as basis because the latter is more of a local boxer to me because all of his fight are being held inside Japan, hence why most of his title are labeled as Asia Pacific. I'm more inclined that there's a good reason why Shakur's camp chose Yoshino and that is to highlight his debut.
It could be the right ratio --perhaps that is true that Shuichiro Yoshino may have a higher win ratio than Shakur Stevenson, but sometimes we give to consider the level of competition each boxer has faced. But we should not be comfortable with that --Shakur Stevenson has already established himself as a world-class boxer, having won a silver medal at the 2016 Olympics and held the WBO featherweight title and I think it is also a great consideration for him.

Exactly, it's the level of opposition too, that we need to look at and not just the record per se. So maybe Yoshino has more fights and high knockout ratio, but it doesn't mean that he is the better of the two.

Still boils down on who this fighter has, on the other hand, just the last 3 fighters that Shakur face might not be enough for the whole resume of the Japanese to match, just saying. So that alone shows how both fighters are very different, and it is reflected on the odds itself.

In terms of quickness and ring IQ, those belong to Stevenson. So even though Yoshino is a KO artist, I don't think he will be able to hit Stevenson with solid shots. That's a lot to ask for him, and since he isn't a popular boxer, I don't expect he will make it. This fight will most likely result in an additional win for Stevenson and an easy one at that.

As for the betting odds, Shakur is 1.08 to win.

https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html

1.08 is such a nay!
But you only need to put in a really huge amount as it seems a safe bet unless Yoshino suddenly strikes a lucky lunch putting Shakur to sleep and there goes your money. Not very attractive odds but it's also obvious Yoshi is not popular internationally and with limited exposure. Why there were even matched to fight is surprising.

Yes, that is a big nah for us boxing bettors, it's not worth a risk to bet with that kind of odds, I have showed a few pages back what other betting options. But a ML like for Shakur has no value, we might as better just wait for other boxing events to where we gonna put our money with.

And speaking of Shakur here is a video wherein him and Haney run into each other on Top Rank's boxing gym.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQcZd3pTZlc

It's a bit funny, but who knows, maybe in the future, this two are going to fight in out for the belt as Shakur is going up to 135 lbs.

Maybe in the future if Loma wins against Haney, then maybe Shakur will be the next in line. Good to see they are in speaking terms, I mean it's a small world for this boxers, they have the same promotional manager in Top Rank so they will have to crossed path in gyms.

And we can see the respect and the class act between the two.

No thrash talking, wonder though if Teo Lopez and Loma had the same encounter before they have their fights. Maybe there is disrespect towards each other, but who knows.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: carlisle1 on March 17, 2023, 02:53:54 AM


Yes, ML is not that attractive considering that Shakur Stevenson is listed as heavy favorite by the bookies and certainly, you need to put a lot of funds for that moneyline before you can even consider the profits of your wager but putting a lot of funds into unattractive odds have a lot of risks entailed and surely nobody wanted that risks even if you're a bigtime gambler. I reckon that the Shakur win via KO/TKO might be much more profitable to bet since Shakur's ratio is just below 50 percent, let's just wait for another options in the weeks to come.

Shakur is a class fighter and we want to see him in big fights that will be considered a legacy fight after he hurdles this fight his handlers should secure a million-dollar legacy fights something like a Garcia - Davis fights or a Haney - Lomachenko.
this fight obviously lacks attention from the media because it's a cherry-picked fight its eclipsed by big fights but it's good that the fight will come early before big fights of the year.
All bookies will favor Shakur, it will shock the boxing world if he loses this fight.



ML is not attractive maybe we will wait for more option when the fight starts something like what round or the range of it before
the fight ended or if it's KO or Decision winner,

But along the way, it's Shakur who really have the upper hand and just how you say it, a cherry-pick for him and bookies will give him the big edge.

Moving on, let's wait for some opportunity to make some bucks here if there's something decent.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: TravelMug on March 17, 2023, 08:47:42 AM


Yes, ML is not that attractive considering that Shakur Stevenson is listed as heavy favorite by the bookies and certainly, you need to put a lot of funds for that moneyline before you can even consider the profits of your wager but putting a lot of funds into unattractive odds have a lot of risks entailed and surely nobody wanted that risks even if you're a bigtime gambler. I reckon that the Shakur win via KO/TKO might be much more profitable to bet since Shakur's ratio is just below 50 percent, let's just wait for another options in the weeks to come.

Shakur is a class fighter and we want to see him in big fights that will be considered a legacy fight after he hurdles this fight his handlers should secure a million-dollar legacy fights something like a Garcia - Davis fights or a Haney - Lomachenko.
this fight obviously lacks attention from the media because it's a cherry-picked fight its eclipsed by big fights but it's good that the fight will come early before big fights of the year.
All bookies will favor Shakur, it will shock the boxing world if he loses this fight.



ML is not attractive maybe we will wait for more option when the fight starts something like what round or the range of it before
the fight ended or if it's KO or Decision winner,

But along the way, it's Shakur who really have the upper hand and just how you say it, a cherry-pick for him and bookies will give him the big edge.

Moving on, let's wait for some opportunity to make some bucks here if there's something decent.

It's likely a cherry pick fight for Shakur, but in terms of exposure, I think the Japanese will take advantage of him in front of the American audience although he knows that his chances are very slim to win, but he will obviously give his best on this fight.

I'm not sure what betting options should be good here.

I mean if we wanted to make money, it should be to the Japanese, but we don't like that risk, and so maybe Shakur or just let this be a pass for some of us.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: stadus on March 17, 2023, 03:10:16 PM


Yes, ML is not that attractive considering that Shakur Stevenson is listed as heavy favorite by the bookies and certainly, you need to put a lot of funds for that moneyline before you can even consider the profits of your wager but putting a lot of funds into unattractive odds have a lot of risks entailed and surely nobody wanted that risks even if you're a bigtime gambler. I reckon that the Shakur win via KO/TKO might be much more profitable to bet since Shakur's ratio is just below 50 percent, let's just wait for another options in the weeks to come.

Shakur is a class fighter and we want to see him in big fights that will be considered a legacy fight after he hurdles this fight his handlers should secure a million-dollar legacy fights something like a Garcia - Davis fights or a Haney - Lomachenko.
this fight obviously lacks attention from the media because it's a cherry-picked fight its eclipsed by big fights but it's good that the fight will come early before big fights of the year.
All bookies will favor Shakur, it will shock the boxing world if he loses this fight.


That's just sad on their part because their bout has been scheduled on the same month where the big fights are also scheduled, furthermore, there's just less people who takes an interest on looking at this fight because aside from this is Shakur's debut at 135, he is also partnered with a name that isn't really famous to be viewed as an acid test to the former champion. Maybe the next fight will be favored for Shakur as it's speculated that he is about to face the winner of Haney-Loma fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Sanitough on March 18, 2023, 06:50:09 AM


Yes, ML is not that attractive considering that Shakur Stevenson is listed as heavy favorite by the bookies and certainly, you need to put a lot of funds for that moneyline before you can even consider the profits of your wager but putting a lot of funds into unattractive odds have a lot of risks entailed and surely nobody wanted that risks even if you're a bigtime gambler. I reckon that the Shakur win via KO/TKO might be much more profitable to bet since Shakur's ratio is just below 50 percent, let's just wait for another options in the weeks to come.

Shakur is a class fighter and we want to see him in big fights that will be considered a legacy fight after he hurdles this fight his handlers should secure a million-dollar legacy fights something like a Garcia - Davis fights or a Haney - Lomachenko.
this fight obviously lacks attention from the media because it's a cherry-picked fight its eclipsed by big fights but it's good that the fight will come early before big fights of the year.
All bookies will favor Shakur, it will shock the boxing world if he loses this fight.


That's just sad on their part because their bout has been scheduled on the same month where the big fights are also scheduled, furthermore, there's just less people who takes an interest on looking at this fight because aside from this is Shakur's debut at 135, he is also partnered with a name that isn't really famous to be viewed as an acid test to the former champion. Maybe the next fight will be favored for Shakur as it's speculated that he is about to face the winner of Haney-Loma fight.

Exactly, he won't get a lot of viewership on this one, but a win here will add another success to his career. Eventually, he'll meet a great challenger that fans will be excited to watch. It will be a fight that is hard to predict on who will win. Hopefully, he'll be up for a big challenge, as boxers who play it safe can be boring.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: btc_angela on March 18, 2023, 10:21:11 AM


Yes, ML is not that attractive considering that Shakur Stevenson is listed as heavy favorite by the bookies and certainly, you need to put a lot of funds for that moneyline before you can even consider the profits of your wager but putting a lot of funds into unattractive odds have a lot of risks entailed and surely nobody wanted that risks even if you're a bigtime gambler. I reckon that the Shakur win via KO/TKO might be much more profitable to bet since Shakur's ratio is just below 50 percent, let's just wait for another options in the weeks to come.

Shakur is a class fighter and we want to see him in big fights that will be considered a legacy fight after he hurdles this fight his handlers should secure a million-dollar legacy fights something like a Garcia - Davis fights or a Haney - Lomachenko.
this fight obviously lacks attention from the media because it's a cherry-picked fight its eclipsed by big fights but it's good that the fight will come early before big fights of the year.
All bookies will favor Shakur, it will shock the boxing world if he loses this fight.


That's just sad on their part because their bout has been scheduled on the same month where the big fights are also scheduled, furthermore, there's just less people who takes an interest on looking at this fight because aside from this is Shakur's debut at 135, he is also partnered with a name that isn't really famous to be viewed as an acid test to the former champion. Maybe the next fight will be favored for Shakur as it's speculated that he is about to face the winner of Haney-Loma fight.

Exactly, he won't get a lot of viewership on this one, but a win here will add another success to his career. Eventually, he'll meet a great challenger that fans will be excited to watch. It will be a fight that is hard to predict on who will win. Hopefully, he'll be up for a big challenge, as boxers who play it safe can be boring.

Maybe that's the only available dates that they can squeeze, but I think what's important is that Shakur will be able to fight in front of his hometown again justl like his last fight.

So regardless of the numbers, his fans is the sure winning here. And maybe the Japanese fighter too, he will get a good payday and then fight in the US for the first time. For Shakur just another fight, maybe it's a tune up for him in 135 lbs and then target big names later in this division. And there are a lot of them, so good for Shakur to have like a get busy fight at the start of this year.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Distinctin on March 18, 2023, 02:06:15 PM

Maybe that's the only available dates that they can squeeze, but I think what's important is that Shakur will be able to fight in front of his hometown again justl like his last fight.

So regardless of the numbers, his fans is the sure winning here. And maybe the Japanese fighter too, he will get a good payday and then fight in the US for the first time. For Shakur just another fight, maybe it's a tune up for him in 135 lbs and then target big names later in this division. And there are a lot of them, so good for Shakur to have like a get busy fight at the start of this year.
Shakur is not a KO artist, so I would not be surprised if this fight does not earn a lot of money. Most boxers who have a lot of followers and supporters are those who can really entertain the crowd, so Shakur needs to fight a champion who is entertaining too in order to sell big numbers. Look at Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis, both are KO artists, and they are already making lots of ticket sales.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Shamm on March 18, 2023, 02:36:33 PM

Maybe that's the only available dates that they can squeeze, but I think what's important is that Shakur will be able to fight in front of his hometown again justl like his last fight.

So regardless of the numbers, his fans is the sure winning here. And maybe the Japanese fighter too, he will get a good payday and then fight in the US for the first time. For Shakur just another fight, maybe it's a tune up for him in 135 lbs and then target big names later in this division. And there are a lot of them, so good for Shakur to have like a get busy fight at the start of this year.
Shakur is not a KO artist, so I would not be surprised if this fight does not earn a lot of money. Most boxers who have a lot of followers and supporters are those who can really entertain the crowd, so Shakur needs to fight a champion who is entertaining too in order to sell big numbers. Look at Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis, both are KO artists, and they are already making lots of ticket sales.

A few days to go this fight will began and think this will be a good fight as well we all know that even though they are not just Master in KO or KO artist. But still for me that will bring us a good fight. But like you said mate that this fight will not earn a lot of money then I think you are right that. It because the popularity of a boxer matters and we all know that these fighters not a very known in the world so the crowd will be lesser than other popular fighter.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Kasabus on March 18, 2023, 04:09:50 PM


Yes, ML is not that attractive considering that Shakur Stevenson is listed as heavy favorite by the bookies and certainly, you need to put a lot of funds for that moneyline before you can even consider the profits of your wager but putting a lot of funds into unattractive odds have a lot of risks entailed and surely nobody wanted that risks even if you're a bigtime gambler. I reckon that the Shakur win via KO/TKO might be much more profitable to bet since Shakur's ratio is just below 50 percent, let's just wait for another options in the weeks to come.

Shakur is a class fighter and we want to see him in big fights that will be considered a legacy fight after he hurdles this fight his handlers should secure a million-dollar legacy fights something like a Garcia - Davis fights or a Haney - Lomachenko.
this fight obviously lacks attention from the media because it's a cherry-picked fight its eclipsed by big fights but it's good that the fight will come early before big fights of the year.
All bookies will favor Shakur, it will shock the boxing world if he loses this fight.


That's just sad on their part because their bout has been scheduled on the same month where the big fights are also scheduled, furthermore, there's just less people who takes an interest on looking at this fight because aside from this is Shakur's debut at 135, he is also partnered with a name that isn't really famous to be viewed as an acid test to the former champion. Maybe the next fight will be favored for Shakur as it's speculated that he is about to face the winner of Haney-Loma fight.

Exactly, he won't get a lot of viewership on this one, but a win here will add another success to his career. Eventually, he'll meet a great challenger that fans will be excited to watch. It will be a fight that is hard to predict on who will win. Hopefully, he'll be up for a big challenge, as boxers who play it safe can be boring.

Well, that's just how life works because not everything will be favorable to a boxer's career.

Anyway, I'm just hopeful and rooting that Shakur's next fight will be a big and interesting one where he will get to be the challenger this time, just like what @stadus said, he is said to face the winner of Devin Haney versus Vasiliy Lomachenko fight. And that might happen somewhere before this year ends, but that is if there will be no mandatory title defense to the undisputed champion.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Distinctin on March 20, 2023, 06:30:27 PM

Maybe that's the only available dates that they can squeeze, but I think what's important is that Shakur will be able to fight in front of his hometown again justl like his last fight.

So regardless of the numbers, his fans is the sure winning here. And maybe the Japanese fighter too, he will get a good payday and then fight in the US for the first time. For Shakur just another fight, maybe it's a tune up for him in 135 lbs and then target big names later in this division. And there are a lot of them, so good for Shakur to have like a get busy fight at the start of this year.
Shakur is not a KO artist, so I would not be surprised if this fight does not earn a lot of money. Most boxers who have a lot of followers and supporters are those who can really entertain the crowd, so Shakur needs to fight a champion who is entertaining too in order to sell big numbers. Look at Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis, both are KO artists, and they are already making lots of ticket sales.

A few days to go this fight will began and think this will be a good fight as well we all know that even though they are not just Master in KO or KO artist. But still for me that will bring us a good fight. But like you said mate that this fight will not earn a lot of money then I think you are right that. It because the popularity of a boxer matters and we all know that these fighters not a very known in the world so the crowd will be lesser than other popular fighter.

Yes, Shakur Stevenson may be a 2-belt champion in his previous division but he is not that fully known yet in this industry and in this new weight class that he's in, he will be start making his name because if he can manage to defeat Yoshino (which I know he can) and end the fight with a statement, there's a huge chance that his next fights will be against the champion. It might be an interim belt or even against the undisputed champion directly.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Baofeng on March 20, 2023, 10:59:37 PM

Maybe that's the only available dates that they can squeeze, but I think what's important is that Shakur will be able to fight in front of his hometown again justl like his last fight.

So regardless of the numbers, his fans is the sure winning here. And maybe the Japanese fighter too, he will get a good payday and then fight in the US for the first time. For Shakur just another fight, maybe it's a tune up for him in 135 lbs and then target big names later in this division. And there are a lot of them, so good for Shakur to have like a get busy fight at the start of this year.
Shakur is not a KO artist, so I would not be surprised if this fight does not earn a lot of money. Most boxers who have a lot of followers and supporters are those who can really entertain the crowd, so Shakur needs to fight a champion who is entertaining too in order to sell big numbers. Look at Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis, both are KO artists, and they are already making lots of ticket sales.

A few days to go this fight will began and think this will be a good fight as well we all know that even though they are not just Master in KO or KO artist. But still for me that will bring us a good fight. But like you said mate that this fight will not earn a lot of money then I think you are right that. It because the popularity of a boxer matters and we all know that these fighters not a very known in the world so the crowd will be lesser than other popular fighter.

Yes, Shakur Stevenson may be a 2-belt champion in his previous division but he is not that fully known yet in this industry and in this new weight class that he's in, he will be start making his name because if he can manage to defeat Yoshino (which I know he can) and end the fight with a statement, there's a huge chance that his next fights will be against the champion. It might be an interim belt or even against the undisputed champion directly.

Yep, he is just going on ranks that time, he already has name though, nut not household enough for the casual fans to recognized his him. Until he beat Herring that time, who held the WBO World Super Feather and has been tearing the division (Shakur holds the interim title). But when they fought he just dominated Herring and get this title solidifying his status. And then fought Oscar Valdez for the WBC World Super Feather in which he knock down Valdez 2x, (which also that time is bigger than Shakur in terms of name). With that win against the highly touted Valdez, his name is now on the limelight. But the true test for him will be the 135 lbs as there are a lot of great name boxers here.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Shamm on March 21, 2023, 02:11:21 PM

Maybe that's the only available dates that they can squeeze, but I think what's important is that Shakur will be able to fight in front of his hometown again justl like his last fight.

So regardless of the numbers, his fans is the sure winning here. And maybe the Japanese fighter too, he will get a good payday and then fight in the US for the first time. For Shakur just another fight, maybe it's a tune up for him in 135 lbs and then target big names later in this division. And there are a lot of them, so good for Shakur to have like a get busy fight at the start of this year.
Shakur is not a KO artist, so I would not be surprised if this fight does not earn a lot of money. Most boxers who have a lot of followers and supporters are those who can really entertain the crowd, so Shakur needs to fight a champion who is entertaining too in order to sell big numbers. Look at Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis, both are KO artists, and they are already making lots of ticket sales.

A few days to go this fight will began and think this will be a good fight as well we all know that even though they are not just Master in KO or KO artist. But still for me that will bring us a good fight. But like you said mate that this fight will not earn a lot of money then I think you are right that. It because the popularity of a boxer matters and we all know that these fighters not a very known in the world so the crowd will be lesser than other popular fighter.

Yes, Shakur Stevenson may be a 2-belt champion in his previous division but he is not that fully known yet in this industry and in this new weight class that he's in, he will be start making his name because if he can manage to defeat Yoshino (which I know he can) and end the fight with a statement, there's a huge chance that his next fights will be against the champion. It might be an interim belt or even against the undisputed champion directly.

Yep, he is just going on ranks that time, he already has name though, nut not household enough for the casual fans to recognized his him. Until he beat Herring that time, who held the WBO World Super Feather and has been tearing the division (Shakur holds the interim title). But when they fought he just dominated Herring and get this title solidifying his status. And then fought Oscar Valdez for the WBC World Super Feather in which he knock down Valdez 2x, (which also that time is bigger than Shakur in terms of name). With that win against the highly touted Valdez, his name is now on the limelight. But the true test for him will be the 135 lbs as there are a lot of great name boxers here.

Slowly but surely that's what shakur doing right now and once he gonna win this fight then a lot of achievement will be achieve cause once he win the crowd will be know him and his name will publish around the world and for sure his next fight will be against the champions so his opportunity will come on his career which is we all know that in this fight he can win. Even though not in knock out but the percentage of winning for me is high.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Cling18 on March 21, 2023, 04:35:15 PM

Maybe that's the only available dates that they can squeeze, but I think what's important is that Shakur will be able to fight in front of his hometown again justl like his last fight.

So regardless of the numbers, his fans is the sure winning here. And maybe the Japanese fighter too, he will get a good payday and then fight in the US for the first time. For Shakur just another fight, maybe it's a tune up for him in 135 lbs and then target big names later in this division. And there are a lot of them, so good for Shakur to have like a get busy fight at the start of this year.
Shakur is not a KO artist, so I would not be surprised if this fight does not earn a lot of money. Most boxers who have a lot of followers and supporters are those who can really entertain the crowd, so Shakur needs to fight a champion who is entertaining too in order to sell big numbers. Look at Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis, both are KO artists, and they are already making lots of ticket sales.

A few days to go this fight will began and think this will be a good fight as well we all know that even though they are not just Master in KO or KO artist. But still for me that will bring us a good fight. But like you said mate that this fight will not earn a lot of money then I think you are right that. It because the popularity of a boxer matters and we all know that these fighters not a very known in the world so the crowd will be lesser than other popular fighter.

Yes, Shakur Stevenson may be a 2-belt champion in his previous division but he is not that fully known yet in this industry and in this new weight class that he's in, he will be start making his name because if he can manage to defeat Yoshino (which I know he can) and end the fight with a statement, there's a huge chance that his next fights will be against the champion. It might be an interim belt or even against the undisputed champion directly.

Yep, he is just going on ranks that time, he already has name though, nut not household enough for the casual fans to recognized his him. Until he beat Herring that time, who held the WBO World Super Feather and has been tearing the division (Shakur holds the interim title). But when they fought he just dominated Herring and get this title solidifying his status. And then fought Oscar Valdez for the WBC World Super Feather in which he knock down Valdez 2x, (which also that time is bigger than Shakur in terms of name). With that win against the highly touted Valdez, his name is now on the limelight. But the true test for him will be the 135 lbs as there are a lot of great name boxers here.

Slowly but surely that's what shakur doing right now and once he gonna win this fight then a lot of achievement will be achieve cause once he win the crowd will be know him and his name will publish around the world and for sure his next fight will be against the champions so his opportunity will come on his career which is we all know that in this fight he can win. Even though not in knock out but the percentage of winning for me is high.

It will be a challenging match for Shakur since he is just starting to build a strong foundation in the industry but he has to make sure that he won't miss this chance to take the spotlight and prove that he's a good fighter. Time will tell if he will establish a good name but he should do his part in proving that he's too willing and eager to win this match. He only needs to be well prepared because he will only grab this chance once.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: btc_angela on March 21, 2023, 05:15:51 PM

Maybe that's the only available dates that they can squeeze, but I think what's important is that Shakur will be able to fight in front of his hometown again justl like his last fight.

So regardless of the numbers, his fans is the sure winning here. And maybe the Japanese fighter too, he will get a good payday and then fight in the US for the first time. For Shakur just another fight, maybe it's a tune up for him in 135 lbs and then target big names later in this division. And there are a lot of them, so good for Shakur to have like a get busy fight at the start of this year.
Shakur is not a KO artist, so I would not be surprised if this fight does not earn a lot of money. Most boxers who have a lot of followers and supporters are those who can really entertain the crowd, so Shakur needs to fight a champion who is entertaining too in order to sell big numbers. Look at Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis, both are KO artists, and they are already making lots of ticket sales.

A few days to go this fight will began and think this will be a good fight as well we all know that even though they are not just Master in KO or KO artist. But still for me that will bring us a good fight. But like you said mate that this fight will not earn a lot of money then I think you are right that. It because the popularity of a boxer matters and we all know that these fighters not a very known in the world so the crowd will be lesser than other popular fighter.

Yes, Shakur Stevenson may be a 2-belt champion in his previous division but he is not that fully known yet in this industry and in this new weight class that he's in, he will be start making his name because if he can manage to defeat Yoshino (which I know he can) and end the fight with a statement, there's a huge chance that his next fights will be against the champion. It might be an interim belt or even against the undisputed champion directly.

Yep, he is just going on ranks that time, he already has name though, nut not household enough for the casual fans to recognized his him. Until he beat Herring that time, who held the WBO World Super Feather and has been tearing the division (Shakur holds the interim title). But when they fought he just dominated Herring and get this title solidifying his status. And then fought Oscar Valdez for the WBC World Super Feather in which he knock down Valdez 2x, (which also that time is bigger than Shakur in terms of name). With that win against the highly touted Valdez, his name is now on the limelight. But the true test for him will be the 135 lbs as there are a lot of great name boxers here.

Slowly but surely that's what shakur doing right now and once he gonna win this fight then a lot of achievement will be achieve cause once he win the crowd will be know him and his name will publish around the world and for sure his next fight will be against the champions so his opportunity will come on his career which is we all know that in this fight he can win. Even though not in knock out but the percentage of winning for me is high.

Most boxers started that way though, and I think this was separates the elite from B-fighters. Because elite fighters again will slowly goes up and then win belts make a name for themselves and then their name will become big like what happen to Shakur Stevenson.

Maybe careful match making by this promotional company, but everything lies on how he project himself inside the right and how he fights.

And for sure if he win this one, and since Top Rank has Devin Haney and Loma, he might be next in line to fight either one of them.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: carlisle1 on March 21, 2023, 06:40:14 PM

Most boxers started that way though, and I think this was separates the elite from B-fighters. Because elite fighters again will slowly goes up and then win belts make a name for themselves and then their name will become big like what happen to Shakur Stevenson.

Maybe careful match making by this promotional company, but everything lies on how he project himself inside the right and how he fights.

And for sure if he win this one, and since Top Rank has Devin Haney and Loma, he might be next in line to fight either one of them.

Yeah, he will have that chance if he continues winning his fight, with how this sport works I mean with how promotions
and handlers are making money with each fighter.

The more the fans continue to support and follow each fight that being offered the more we will expect that big fights will be offer.

Let see what will happen to this fight and start discussing Shakur's next journey.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Japinat on March 22, 2023, 07:32:15 PM

Most boxers started that way though, and I think this was separates the elite from B-fighters. Because elite fighters again will slowly goes up and then win belts make a name for themselves and then their name will become big like what happen to Shakur Stevenson.

Maybe careful match making by this promotional company, but everything lies on how he project himself inside the right and how he fights.

And for sure if he win this one, and since Top Rank has Devin Haney and Loma, he might be next in line to fight either one of them.

Yeah, he will have that chance if he continues winning his fight, with how this sport works I mean with how promotions
and handlers are making money with each fighter.

The more the fans continue to support and follow each fight that being offered the more we will expect that big fights will be offer.

Let see what will happen to this fight and start discussing Shakur's next journey.


In terms of speculations, we cannot deny that Shakur Stevenson's chance to win is huge enough than losing this fight because Yoshino despite of his decent records, he's not that reliable to face heavy names in boxing as he's not that experienced to be in the international ring.

And as for me, there are only two types of boxers in the world:
1. Boxers who are bound to be a champion
2. Boxers who are bound to be a steppingstone

Which I think, not to underestimate, Yoshino is the 2nd type of boxer where he will pave way for Shakur's name to be great soon. Other than that, this fight will showcase Shakur's debut and respectfully, Bob Arum surely arranged a safer fight for his cow.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: mirakal on March 23, 2023, 02:27:31 PM

Most boxers started that way though, and I think this was separates the elite from B-fighters. Because elite fighters again will slowly goes up and then win belts make a name for themselves and then their name will become big like what happen to Shakur Stevenson.

Maybe careful match making by this promotional company, but everything lies on how he project himself inside the right and how he fights.

And for sure if he win this one, and since Top Rank has Devin Haney and Loma, he might be next in line to fight either one of them.

Yeah, he will have that chance if he continues winning his fight, with how this sport works I mean with how promotions
and handlers are making money with each fighter.

The more the fans continue to support and follow each fight that being offered the more we will expect that big fights will be offer.

Let see what will happen to this fight and start discussing Shakur's next journey.


In terms of speculations, we cannot deny that Shakur Stevenson's chance to win is huge enough than losing this fight because Yoshino despite of his decent records, he's not that reliable to face heavy names in boxing as he's not that experienced to be in the international ring.

And as for me, there are only two types of boxers in the world:
1. Boxers who are bound to be a champion
2. Boxers who are bound to be a steppingstone

Which I think, not to underestimate, Yoshino is the 2nd type of boxer where he will pave way for Shakur's name to be great soon. Other than that, this fight will showcase Shakur's debut and respectfully, Bob Arum surely arranged a safer fight for his cow.


I agree with that. Bob Arum know how to pick for his cows wisely and he gave Shakur a competitive opponent on his debut while making sure that his opponent's chances is just slim, I mean we can somehow differentiate the two of them by looking at their records and somehow, we can say that they're both on a different league. We should indeed not forgot that this is a highlight of Shakur and not his opponent, it will be a good warm up for sure for Shakur but that's it.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: carlisle1 on March 24, 2023, 07:21:24 AM

Most boxers started that way though, and I think this was separates the elite from B-fighters. Because elite fighters again will slowly goes up and then win belts make a name for themselves and then their name will become big like what happen to Shakur Stevenson.

Maybe careful match making by this promotional company, but everything lies on how he project himself inside the right and how he fights.

And for sure if he win this one, and since Top Rank has Devin Haney and Loma, he might be next in line to fight either one of them.

Yeah, he will have that chance if he continues winning his fight, with how this sport works I mean with how promotions
and handlers are making money with each fighter.

The more the fans continue to support and follow each fight that being offered the more we will expect that big fights will be offer.

Let see what will happen to this fight and start discussing Shakur's next journey.


In terms of speculations, we cannot deny that Shakur Stevenson's chance to win is huge enough than losing this fight because Yoshino despite of his decent records, he's not that reliable to face heavy names in boxing as he's not that experienced to be in the international ring.

And as for me, there are only two types of boxers in the world:
1. Boxers who are bound to be a champion
2. Boxers who are bound to be a steppingstone

Which I think, not to underestimate, Yoshino is the 2nd type of boxer where he will pave way for Shakur's name to be great soon. Other than that, this fight will showcase Shakur's debut and respectfully, Bob Arum surely arranged a safer fight for his cow.


I agree with that. Bob Arum know how to pick for his cows wisely and he gave Shakur a competitive opponent on his debut while making sure that his opponent's chances is just slim, I mean we can somehow differentiate the two of them by looking at their records and somehow, we can say that they're both on a different league. We should indeed not forgot that this is a highlight of Shakur and not his opponent, it will be a good warm up for sure for Shakur but that's it.

Arum care more about the money and the hype for his fighter, even this fight seems to be a cherry pick for him and more
on the side of money-making match.

Upset still possible but I can be more biased here since byt stats and by capabilities Shakur do have a huge advantage.

Not unless if Yoshino will get that lucky opening and throw a KO punch that will bring Shakur in the floor.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Sanitough on March 24, 2023, 07:30:28 AM

Upset still possible but I can be more biased here since byt stats and by capabilities Shakur do have a huge advantage.

Not unless if Yoshino will get that lucky opening and throw a KO punch that will bring Shakur in the floor.

The chances of Stevenson getting knocked out are very low because we know how careful of a boxer he is. According to his stats, he is not a KO artist and yet remains undefeated. This means that he does not take unnecessary risks by going toe to toe and instead relies on his advantage, which is his quickness. Therefore, it is possible for him to get KOed, but the chances are close to none.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Yaunfitda on March 24, 2023, 10:19:36 AM

Upset still possible but I can be more biased here since byt stats and by capabilities Shakur do have a huge advantage.

Not unless if Yoshino will get that lucky opening and throw a KO punch that will bring Shakur in the floor.

The chances of Stevenson getting knocked out are very low because we know how careful of a boxer he is. According to his stats, he is not a KO artist and yet remains undefeated. This means that he does not take unnecessary risks by going toe to toe and instead relies on his advantage, which is his quickness. Therefore, it is possible for him to get KOed, but the chances are close to none.
His quickness and boxing IQ and I would say that the also possesses a decent speed and power. But he likes to work against his opponent, soften then up with body shots and his jab and maybe knock them down, but not knock out.

That's why we love to see him against fighter with his same caliber like Haney or Loma. This fight against Valdez is like a example on how to fight a boxer with power and he just dominated Oscar on that fight.

The Japanese could be his test int his new division.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: mirakal on March 24, 2023, 08:59:50 PM

Most boxers started that way though, and I think this was separates the elite from B-fighters. Because elite fighters again will slowly goes up and then win belts make a name for themselves and then their name will become big like what happen to Shakur Stevenson.

Maybe careful match making by this promotional company, but everything lies on how he project himself inside the right and how he fights.

And for sure if he win this one, and since Top Rank has Devin Haney and Loma, he might be next in line to fight either one of them.

Yeah, he will have that chance if he continues winning his fight, with how this sport works I mean with how promotions
and handlers are making money with each fighter.

The more the fans continue to support and follow each fight that being offered the more we will expect that big fights will be offer.

Let see what will happen to this fight and start discussing Shakur's next journey.


In terms of speculations, we cannot deny that Shakur Stevenson's chance to win is huge enough than losing this fight because Yoshino despite of his decent records, he's not that reliable to face heavy names in boxing as he's not that experienced to be in the international ring.

And as for me, there are only two types of boxers in the world:
1. Boxers who are bound to be a champion
2. Boxers who are bound to be a steppingstone

Which I think, not to underestimate, Yoshino is the 2nd type of boxer where he will pave way for Shakur's name to be great soon. Other than that, this fight will showcase Shakur's debut and respectfully, Bob Arum surely arranged a safer fight for his cow.


I agree with that. Bob Arum know how to pick for his cows wisely and he gave Shakur a competitive opponent on his debut while making sure that his opponent's chances is just slim, I mean we can somehow differentiate the two of them by looking at their records and somehow, we can say that they're both on a different league. We should indeed not forgot that this is a highlight of Shakur and not his opponent, it will be a good warm up for sure for Shakur but that's it.

Arum care more about the money and the hype for his fighter, even this fight seems to be a cherry pick for him and more
on the side of money-making match.

Upset still possible but I can be more biased here since byt stats and by capabilities Shakur do have a huge advantage.

Not unless if Yoshino will get that lucky opening and throw a KO punch that will bring Shakur in the floor.
There's a chance that this Japanese boxer will be successful on his campaign but in reality, it will be a tough chance and it will be like a lottery in his situation because he got more chances to fail than to succeed. I mean, I'm not here to underestimate Yoshino but as the odds and stats suggests, he almost doesn't stand a chance especially after the fact that this is a cherry-picked fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 25, 2023, 01:22:58 AM
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It could be, Shakur's ratio might be 47% and got a much lower ratio than the Japanese but I cannot really include that as basis because the latter is more of a local boxer to me because all of his fight are being held inside Japan, hence why most of his title are labeled as Asia Pacific. I'm more inclined that there's a good reason why Shakur's camp chose Yoshino and that is to highlight his debut.
It could be the right ratio --perhaps that is true that Shuichiro Yoshino may have a higher win ratio than Shakur Stevenson, but sometimes we give to consider the level of competition each boxer has faced. But we should not be comfortable with that --Shakur Stevenson has already established himself as a world-class boxer, having won a silver medal at the 2016 Olympics and held the WBO featherweight title and I think it is also a great consideration for him.

Exactly, it's the level of opposition too, that we need to look at and not just the record per se. So maybe Yoshino has more fights and high knockout ratio, but it doesn't mean that he is the better of the two.

Still boils down on who this fighter has, on the other hand, just the last 3 fighters that Shakur face might not be enough for the whole resume of the Japanese to match, just saying. So that alone shows how both fighters are very different, and it is reflected on the odds itself.
Well, does that mean that according to Shakur's history he has been a much more complete boxer? Clearly, that is what I can extract from what you say and it is very true, I see that in Shakur's last fights he has had different experiences, in a boxer the more fights he has the better because he takes more experience and learns to improve his technique and can take some strategy when the things don't go well for him , he also realizes his weaknesses, it is usually the lack of resistance that his strength runs out and he has to fight not only against his opponent but also against his own body, it is very difficult when It has the mind but the body needs to respond.



and Shakur:

Arum Praises Shakur Stevenson, Tells Him He Will 'Surpass' Marvelous Marvin Hagler

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Bob Arum has high—generationally high—hopes for Shakur Stevenson.

In a video segment recently published on the YouTube channel of Top Rank, Arum’s promotional company, the nonagenarian promoter is seen praising Stevenson, heralding him as potentially an even greater fighter than one Marvelous Marvin Hagler, the middleweight champion Arum once promoted.

The 25-year-old Stevenson, a former titlist at 126 and 130, is preparing to make his lightweight debut against Japan’s Shuichiro Yoshino on April 8 at Prudential Center in Stevenson’s hometown of Newark, New Jersey.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-praises-shakur-stevenson-tells-him-he-surpass-marvelous-marvin-hagler--173132 (https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-praises-shakur-stevenson-tells-him-he-surpass-marvelous-marvin-hagler--173132)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: carlisle1 on March 25, 2023, 05:58:33 AM

There's a chance that this Japanese boxer will be successful on his campaign but in reality, it will be a tough chance and it will be like a lottery in his situation because he got more chances to fail than to succeed. I mean, I'm not here to underestimate Yoshino but as the odds and stats suggests, he almost doesn't stand a chance especially after the fact that this is a cherry-picked fight.

Nothing to argue about that as we all agree that this fight is a cherry pick for Shakur, the losing chance is slim and with how
the handler handles his career they will continue to bring hypes to his name.

Just like what I've said, it's just a lucky punch if by chance Yoshino will see that opportunity, but again that's a next to none / rare chances
when fighting a top caliber fighter.



Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Sanitough on March 25, 2023, 03:12:37 PM

Upset still possible but I can be more biased here since byt stats and by capabilities Shakur do have a huge advantage.

Not unless if Yoshino will get that lucky opening and throw a KO punch that will bring Shakur in the floor.

The chances of Stevenson getting knocked out are very low because we know how careful of a boxer he is. According to his stats, he is not a KO artist and yet remains undefeated. This means that he does not take unnecessary risks by going toe to toe and instead relies on his advantage, which is his quickness. Therefore, it is possible for him to get KOed, but the chances are close to none.
His quickness and boxing IQ and I would say that the also possesses a decent speed and power. But he likes to work against his opponent, soften then up with body shots and his jab and maybe knock them down, but not knock out.

That's why we love to see him against fighter with his same caliber like Haney or Loma. This fight against Valdez is like a example on how to fight a boxer with power and he just dominated Oscar on that fight.



That's his strength - he is not a careless fighter and does not underestimate his opponent. Although he is capable of knocking out his opponent, he understands that one mistake could possibly risk his record, and he cannot maintain his undefeated status. I haven't seen him fight against a tough challenger yet, so you are right, he might be a great challenge for Loma and Haney.

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The Japanese could be his test int his new division.
It's a test but not a tough one, I would say.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: mirakal on March 30, 2023, 07:10:16 PM
Arum Praises Shakur Stevenson, Tells Him He Will 'Surpass' Marvelous Marvin Hagler

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Bob Arum has high—generationally high—hopes for Shakur Stevenson.

In a video segment recently published on the YouTube channel of Top Rank, Arum’s promotional company, the nonagenarian promoter is seen praising Stevenson, heralding him as potentially an even greater fighter than one Marvelous Marvin Hagler, the middleweight champion Arum once promoted.

The 25-year-old Stevenson, a former titlist at 126 and 130, is preparing to make his lightweight debut against Japan’s Shuichiro Yoshino on April 8 at Prudential Center in Stevenson’s hometown of Newark, New Jersey.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-praises-shakur-stevenson-tells-him-he-surpass-marvelous-marvin-hagler--173132 (https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-praises-shakur-stevenson-tells-him-he-surpass-marvelous-marvin-hagler--173132)

There's a chance considering Shakur Stevenson's talent on the ring and his IQ is somehow different from other boxers as well that's why he was able to maintain his record unscathed and I'm looking forward to see him settling fights with some of the heavy names in the lightweight division. Anyway, if only Shakur wasn't having a hard time maintaining his weight at 130, I believe that he could achieve and own all four belts to be the 8th undisputed champion in the history of four belt era.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Baofeng on March 30, 2023, 10:24:30 PM
^^ Yeah, I think he can clean up that division and won all the belts, might be good challenge for him with the likes of O'Shaquie Foster or Hector Luis Garcia (which Tank Davis beat) and Emanuel Navarrete. It's going to be a good fight for him at 130 lbs and then beat those name above. But I guess it's the right division for him to move to 135 lbs, no business for him to stay when his body is saying otherwise.

Now he is on a different weight class, no need to cut that weight that hard, and he can train as hard as anyone without thinking of foods that he will need to eat or go into his system. So good choice for him. And in this fight, it's tune up as we have seen, maybe just trying to get a feel on his power and speed so this is still a test for him, could be sparring for some, but for sure his trainer is going to look at it very closely in tapes and see how Shakur performed at Lightweight for the first time as there could be somethings that he could improved to stay with the best like Haney and Loma.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 31, 2023, 02:43:09 PM


Yes, ML is not that attractive considering that Shakur Stevenson is listed as heavy favorite by the bookies and certainly, you need to put a lot of funds for that moneyline before you can even consider the profits of your wager but putting a lot of funds into unattractive odds have a lot of risks entailed and surely nobody wanted that risks even if you're a bigtime gambler. I reckon that the Shakur win via KO/TKO might be much more profitable to bet since Shakur's ratio is just below 50 percent, let's just wait for another options in the weeks to come.

Shakur is a class fighter and we want to see him in big fights that will be considered a legacy fight after he hurdles this fight his handlers should secure a million-dollar legacy fights something like a Garcia - Davis fights or a Haney - Lomachenko.
this fight obviously lacks attention from the media because it's a cherry-picked fight its eclipsed by big fights but it's good that the fight will come early before big fights of the year.
All bookies will favor Shakur, it will shock the boxing world if he loses this fight.


That's just sad on their part because their bout has been scheduled on the same month where the big fights are also scheduled, furthermore, there's just less people who takes an interest on looking at this fight because aside from this is Shakur's debut at 135, he is also partnered with a name that isn't really famous to be viewed as an acid test to the former champion. Maybe the next fight will be favored for Shakur as it's speculated that he is about to face the winner of Haney-Loma fight.

Exactly, he won't get a lot of viewership on this one, but a win here will add another success to his career. Eventually, he'll meet a great challenger that fans will be excited to watch. It will be a fight that is hard to predict on who will win. Hopefully, he'll be up for a big challenge, as boxers who play it safe can be boring.

Well, that's just how life works because not everything will be favorable to a boxer's career.

Anyway, I'm just hopeful and rooting that Shakur's next fight will be a big and interesting one where he will get to be the challenger this time, just like what @stadus said, he is said to face the winner of Devin Haney versus Vasiliy Lomachenko fight. And that might happen somewhere before this year ends, but that is if there will be no mandatory title defense to the undisputed champion.
In what they have here in context for me it is much easier for Shakur to win,also I have Seen some statements, some videos and in the boxing Forums they speak well of Shakur and in the forums they always handle very specific Information, Sometimes I think that the same trainers or the Same boxers can write, so this Gives me a lot to think about, of course everything in the Sense of speculation, but in Regards to Shakur's style he can make a Very good fight, I see that He is a boxer who has very good strategies at the Time of the fight and they have Given him good Results and that is what is Sought.

Shakur Stevenson details how Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia will unfold and picks winner

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Former two-weight world champion Shakur Stevenson believes there is only one winner when Gervonta 'Tank' Davis meets Ryan Garcia on April 22 in Las Vegas.

Both men are currently in training camp ahead of what is set to be a huge event next month, but when it comes to predicting a winner, many are struggling due to the immense talent Davis and Garcia possess.

However, in the eyes of Stevenson, he claims that Garcia's speed could be his downfall and could give an opening to Davis to end the fight during the later rounds.

“Tank is going to beat him, by stoppage – late," Stevenson told Fight Hub TV.

"Ryan is going to start off real fast and if he’s starts too fast I think he’s going to break down later on.”

Source: https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/shakur-stevenson-details-how-gervonta-davis-vs-ryan-garcia-will-unfold-and-picks-winner/1fwvadiod6otm16fzenrmyg513 (https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/shakur-stevenson-details-how-gervonta-davis-vs-ryan-garcia-will-unfold-and-picks-winner/1fwvadiod6otm16fzenrmyg513)


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Kemarit on March 31, 2023, 08:25:03 PM

There's a chance that this Japanese boxer will be successful on his campaign but in reality, it will be a tough chance and it will be like a lottery in his situation because he got more chances to fail than to succeed. I mean, I'm not here to underestimate Yoshino but as the odds and stats suggests, he almost doesn't stand a chance especially after the fact that this is a cherry-picked fight.

Nothing to argue about that as we all agree that this fight is a cherry pick for Shakur, the losing chance is slim and with how
the handler handles his career they will continue to bring hypes to his name.

Just like what I've said, it's just a lucky punch if by chance Yoshino will see that opportunity, but again that's a next to none / rare chances
when fighting a top caliber fighter.

Yes, the odds already says it, Yoshino's chances are small, the only thing that he can win this fight is for him to hit Shakur off guard and be lucky enough that it will be a knockout punch.

But then again, Shakur is a very intelligent boxer and has high IQ, he wouldn't be careless and put himself in a position wherein he will be open for that counter, whether small or big. And we all know that this fight is ready made for him to show his strength against the Japanese.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: mirakal on April 01, 2023, 02:25:14 PM
Shakur Stevenson details how Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia will unfold and picks winner

https://i.imgur.com/rBA77PI.png

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Former two-weight world champion Shakur Stevenson believes there is only one winner when Gervonta 'Tank' Davis meets Ryan Garcia on April 22 in Las Vegas.

Both men are currently in training camp ahead of what is set to be a huge event next month, but when it comes to predicting a winner, many are struggling due to the immense talent Davis and Garcia possess.

However, in the eyes of Stevenson, he claims that Garcia's speed could be his downfall and could give an opening to Davis to end the fight during the later rounds.

“Tank is going to beat him, by stoppage – late," Stevenson told Fight Hub TV.

"Ryan is going to start off real fast and if he’s starts too fast I think he’s going to break down later on.”

Source: https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/shakur-stevenson-details-how-gervonta-davis-vs-ryan-garcia-will-unfold-and-picks-winner/1fwvadiod6otm16fzenrmyg513 (https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/shakur-stevenson-details-how-gervonta-davis-vs-ryan-garcia-will-unfold-and-picks-winner/1fwvadiod6otm16fzenrmyg513)


Interesting opinion and now I'm really curious enough what does Shakur mean by "Ryan's own speed could be his downfall".

Could it be that Ryan Garcia will be more focused in his offensive and forgot that he also got to defend himself specially his glass-jaw and that will be the reason of his downfall, or maybe Shakur is referring something else? What do you guys think?


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: bittraffic on April 01, 2023, 05:54:39 PM
Shakur Stevenson details how Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia will unfold and picks winner

https://i.imgur.com/rBA77PI.png

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Former two-weight world champion Shakur Stevenson believes there is only one winner when Gervonta 'Tank' Davis meets Ryan Garcia on April 22 in Las Vegas.

Both men are currently in training camp ahead of what is set to be a huge event next month, but when it comes to predicting a winner, many are struggling due to the immense talent Davis and Garcia possess.

However, in the eyes of Stevenson, he claims that Garcia's speed could be his downfall and could give an opening to Davis to end the fight during the later rounds.

“Tank is going to beat him, by stoppage – late," Stevenson told Fight Hub TV.

"Ryan is going to start off real fast and if he’s starts too fast I think he’s going to break down later on.”

Source: https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/shakur-stevenson-details-how-gervonta-davis-vs-ryan-garcia-will-unfold-and-picks-winner/1fwvadiod6otm16fzenrmyg513 (https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/shakur-stevenson-details-how-gervonta-davis-vs-ryan-garcia-will-unfold-and-picks-winner/1fwvadiod6otm16fzenrmyg513)


Interesting opinion and now I'm really curious enough what does Shakur mean by "Ryan's own speed could be his downfall".

Could it be that Ryan Garcia will be more focused in his offensive and forgot that he also got to defend himself specially his glass-jaw and that will be the reason of his downfall, or maybe Shakur is referring something else? What do you guys think?

It could happen if Ryan will just straight ahead to bombard Davis and he may forget that Davis is also a counterpuncher. If Ryan couldn't knock Davis in the first few rounds, he will be KOed once he runs out of gas.

But Ryan will also have his plans and both of them will be cautious with what they do in this fight. I think both of them will wait for thier opportunity which in the first rounds Ryan will just going to throw jabs from a distance and it's Davis who will chase Ryan, giving Ryan the advantage.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Kemarit on April 01, 2023, 08:32:49 PM
^^ Perhaps if Ryan will fell in love with his one punch knockout power and it might be one reason that he could lost in this fight. He just go their and try to knockout Davis and if Tank is wise enough to circle around him and avoid his best shot and perhaps Davis has a good chin, then Ryan can't win in this fight.

So going back to this fight, Stevenson will no doubt has the advantage against his Japanese foe. I haven't seen though the split or what is the money in the table for this fight. Just interested because Yoshino hasn't travel outside of his native country and this is the first time. Maybe the money offered to him is good enough to go outside of his backyard and face one of the best rising boxers we have right now.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: btc_angela on April 01, 2023, 08:38:06 PM
^^ Perhaps if Ryan will fell in love with his one punch knockout power and it might be one reason that he could lost in this fight. He just go their and try to knockout Davis and if Tank is wise enough to circle around him and avoid his best shot and perhaps Davis has a good chin, then Ryan can't win in this fight.

But Ryan Garcia and his team should be wise enough not to just rely on the power of one hit punch to win this fight. They should look for the weak spot if Tank if there is any that they can think.

So going back to this fight, Stevenson will no doubt has the advantage against his Japanese foe. I haven't seen though the split or what is the money in the table for this fight. Just interested because Yoshino hasn't travel outside of his native country and this is the first time. Maybe the money offered to him is good enough to go outside of his backyard and face one of the best rising boxers we have right now.

Yoshino beat Nakatani in Japan. And we all know that Nakatani has been fighting in the US against Teo Lopez which was very close and he Lopez just outlast Nakatani. And then next is against the comeback of Loma after his lost to Lopez. So Nakatani fought very hard that night, but Loma is very different fighter. So perhaps they think that Yoshino has want it takes to fight in the US too just like his compatriot which he beat already.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Slow death on April 01, 2023, 10:13:40 PM
So going back to this fight, Stevenson will no doubt has the advantage against his Japanese foe. I haven't seen though the split or what is the money in the table for this fight. Just interested because Yoshino hasn't travel outside of his native country and this is the first time. Maybe the money offered to him is good enough to go outside of his backyard and face one of the best rising boxers we have right now.

Without a doubt these two fighters will bring in a lot of money, from what I could read the tickets for the fight will sell out, they also have sponsors, they have all the attention they create for each fighter to get more individual sponsors, their social networks have many followers assets that allow to attract a lot of attention from companies, these fights give many opportunities to the fighters and the promoters don't rest until they manage to explore all the ways so that they can get the most money in a fight, just see:

"Following the overwhelming success of Shakur Stevenson’s return to Newark in September, we are thrilled to build on that momentum with another stacked Top Rank boxing card on Saturday, April 8th,” said Dylan Wanagiel, VP of Sports Properties & Special Events for Prudential Center. “As Shakur continues to rise the pound-for-pound rankings, we take great pride in being his home. We all witnessed just how much Shakur means to the City of Newark a few months ago, as the event sold the most tickets to a boxing event in our venue's 15-year history. Alongside our world-class partners at Top Rank and ESPN, we look forward to raising the bar for boxing fans not only in New Jersey but across the globe.”

source: https://www.frontproofmedia.com/boxing/shakur-stevenson-returns-home-april-8-against-shuichiro-yoshino-in-lightweight-main-event

It's strange that I still don't see this fight on the stake, I don't know if maybe I'm not looking right, but I can't see this fight on the stake, will they add this fight when it's much closer to the day of the fight or else this fight will not be added. Anyway, I'm checking every day, I want to see the odds and if it's worth it, I'll just bet on this fight, although I still don't have a favorite fighter in this fight, I don't know any of the fighters very well.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Baofeng on April 01, 2023, 10:35:42 PM
So going back to this fight, Stevenson will no doubt has the advantage against his Japanese foe. I haven't seen though the split or what is the money in the table for this fight. Just interested because Yoshino hasn't travel outside of his native country and this is the first time. Maybe the money offered to him is good enough to go outside of his backyard and face one of the best rising boxers we have right now.

Without a doubt these two fighters will bring in a lot of money, from what I could read the tickets for the fight will sell out, they also have sponsors, they have all the attention they create for each fighter to get more individual sponsors, their social networks have many followers assets that allow to attract a lot of attention from companies, these fights give many opportunities to the fighters and the promoters don't rest until they manage to explore all the ways so that they can get the most money in a fight, just see:

"Following the overwhelming success of Shakur Stevenson’s return to Newark in September, we are thrilled to build on that momentum with another stacked Top Rank boxing card on Saturday, April 8th,” said Dylan Wanagiel, VP of Sports Properties & Special Events for Prudential Center. “As Shakur continues to rise the pound-for-pound rankings, we take great pride in being his home. We all witnessed just how much Shakur means to the City of Newark a few months ago, as the event sold the most tickets to a boxing event in our venue's 15-year history. Alongside our world-class partners at Top Rank and ESPN, we look forward to raising the bar for boxing fans not only in New Jersey but across the globe.”

source: https://www.frontproofmedia.com/boxing/shakur-stevenson-returns-home-april-8-against-shuichiro-yoshino-in-lightweight-main-event

It's strange that I still don't see this fight on the stake, I don't know if maybe I'm not looking right, but I can't see this fight on the stake, will they add this fight when it's much closer to the day of the fight or else this fight will not be added. Anyway, I'm checking every day, I want to see the odds and if it's worth it, I'll just bet on this fight, although I still don't have a favorite fighter in this fight, I don't know any of the fighters very well.

I'm not sure how can you missed it on Stake as it has been there for weeks now:

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/19/blob93a39bbebcea8829.png

You need to click "International Matchups" then below "Load More" to see more matches in the future. It won't simply display the fight as is because there are a lot of boxing matches in schedule.

As for the split of the purse question, Shakur got more than 63/37 split against Herring that time in his favor. I know it's absurd but if my memory serves me right, it was under the WBO rule. So in this case, it might be the same or even higher percentage for Shakur because he is the A-side of this fight and some of us is not familiar with Yoshino although he is being rank in the top 5. So yeah, more money for him, and the upside for Yoshino is that he will get the exposure in the US soil for the very first time.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: serjent05 on April 01, 2023, 11:31:52 PM

Interesting opinion and now I'm really curious enough what does Shakur mean by "Ryan's own speed could be his downfall".

Isn't it obvious?  Ryan is slower than most of the quick boxers.  So it means in terms of speed, quickness, and reflex, Shakur thinks that Ryan Garcia is sub par against the other elite boxers.


Could it be that Ryan Garcia will be more focused in his offensive and forgot that he also got to defend himself specially his glass-jaw and that will be the reason of his downfall, or maybe Shakur is referring something else? What do you guys think?

As I stated above, Ryan Garcia's speed, reflex, quickness is much lower than Davis, with that Shakur thinks that Ryan Garica will be slow to react on Davis's offensives and will have a problem reacting on Davis's speed.  Ryan may focus on being balanced since he has the advantage, he can do both offensive and defensive in his range but Shakur believes that Davis is faster and may leave Ryan Garcia open when it launches its attack since Davis can just parry it with his speed and launch an offensive that Ryan may fail to defend because of his slow reaction.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Japinat on April 02, 2023, 04:47:18 PM

Interesting opinion and now I'm really curious enough what does Shakur mean by "Ryan's own speed could be his downfall".

Isn't it obvious?  Ryan is slower than most of the quick boxers.  So it means in terms of speed, quickness, and reflex, Shakur thinks that Ryan Garcia is sub par against the other elite boxers.


Could it be that Ryan Garcia will be more focused in his offensive and forgot that he also got to defend himself specially his glass-jaw and that will be the reason of his downfall, or maybe Shakur is referring something else? What do you guys think?

As I stated above, Ryan Garcia's speed, reflex, quickness is much lower than Davis, with that Shakur thinks that Ryan Garica will be slow to react on Davis's offensives and will have a problem reacting on Davis's speed.  Ryan may focus on being balanced since he has the advantage, he can do both offensive and defensive in his range but Shakur believes that Davis is faster and may leave Ryan Garcia open when it launches its attack since Davis can just parry it with his speed and launch an offensive that Ryan may fail to defend because of his slow reaction.

True, both of them may have the speed required to give a KO punch but we sure do know that there's always that one boxer who is much more agile and faster than the other and in this case, Davis got the advantage on those mentioned factors and that height advantage of Garcia is not really an advantage, I reckon.
Gervonta Davis is already accustomed in fighting some boxers that got the height and reach advantage, this is certainly not his first time but look at him now, he possess the WBA regular belt because of his techniques and IQ.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Viscore on April 02, 2023, 08:10:25 PM

Upset still possible but I can be more biased here since byt stats and by capabilities Shakur do have a huge advantage.

Not unless if Yoshino will get that lucky opening and throw a KO punch that will bring Shakur in the floor.

The chances of Stevenson getting knocked out are very low because we know how careful of a boxer he is. According to his stats, he is not a KO artist and yet remains undefeated. This means that he does not take unnecessary risks by going toe to toe and instead relies on his advantage, which is his quickness. Therefore, it is possible for him to get KOed, but the chances are close to none.
Well, looking at their individual stats, obviously Yoshino has bigger number of knockout wins than Stevenson, but I don’t think he will be easily knockout by Yoshino since we know that he’s more a fighter and warrior when it comes to the ring. But we can’t underestimate too the strength of Yoshino as he would never reach this far if he’s not good enough. So let’s just hope we’ll see a good fight then, and only then we can tell who’s going to level up and bound to fight a heavier opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Jating on April 02, 2023, 08:17:20 PM

Upset still possible but I can be more biased here since byt stats and by capabilities Shakur do have a huge advantage.

Not unless if Yoshino will get that lucky opening and throw a KO punch that will bring Shakur in the floor.

The chances of Stevenson getting knocked out are very low because we know how careful of a boxer he is. According to his stats, he is not a KO artist and yet remains undefeated. This means that he does not take unnecessary risks by going toe to toe and instead relies on his advantage, which is his quickness. Therefore, it is possible for him to get KOed, but the chances are close to none.
Well, looking at their individual stats, obviously Yoshino has bigger number of knockout wins than Stevenson, but I don’t think he will be easily knockout by Yoshino since we know that he’s more a fighter and warrior when it comes to the ring. But we can’t underestimate too the strength of Yoshino as he would never reach this far if he’s not good enough. So let’s just hope we’ll see a good fight then, and only then we can tell who’s going to level up and bound to fight a heavier opponent.

And the skills and the opponents that Yoshino face, it's all Japanese, not saying that they are not good or tough, but Stevenson has face tougher opponents and won all of them, although his knockout percentage is not that high. But as we all know, it's better to take a win in either case, UD or knockout is still a W. For sure the camp of Stevenson has seen his record and will not underestimate the strength of the Japanese. On the contrary, with Shakur's talent, he might play with Yoshino's strength and power and beat him on his own game. So it's going to be a good fight, but in the end, Stevenson will be too much and win this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: mirakal on April 03, 2023, 06:05:33 PM

Upset still possible but I can be more biased here since byt stats and by capabilities Shakur do have a huge advantage.

Not unless if Yoshino will get that lucky opening and throw a KO punch that will bring Shakur in the floor.

The chances of Stevenson getting knocked out are very low because we know how careful of a boxer he is. According to his stats, he is not a KO artist and yet remains undefeated. This means that he does not take unnecessary risks by going toe to toe and instead relies on his advantage, which is his quickness. Therefore, it is possible for him to get KOed, but the chances are close to none.
Well, looking at their individual stats, obviously Yoshino has bigger number of knockout wins than Stevenson, but I don’t think he will be easily knockout by Yoshino since we know that he’s more a fighter and warrior when it comes to the ring. But we can’t underestimate too the strength of Yoshino as he would never reach this far if he’s not good enough. So let’s just hope we’ll see a good fight then, and only then we can tell who’s going to level up and bound to fight a heavier opponent.

And the skills and the opponents that Yoshino face, it's all Japanese, not saying that they are not good or tough, but Stevenson has face tougher opponents and won all of them, although his knockout percentage is not that high. But as we all know, it's better to take a win in either case, UD or knockout is still a W. For sure the camp of Stevenson has seen his record and will not underestimate the strength of the Japanese. On the contrary, with Shakur's talent, he might play with Yoshino's strength and power and beat him on his own game. So it's going to be a good fight, but in the end, Stevenson will be too much and win this fight.

There is definitely a good reason why Shakur and his camp chose to fight Yoshino in his debut, aside from the fact that they are looking forward to make a statement on his climb, they aren't taking any chance to give Shakur a bad impression on his first fight at 135. I believe they chose Yoshino because the Japanese boxer doesn't have any good credentials on his record and haven't got any good names too. In the end, this is just a cherry picked fight to highlight Shakur on his climb.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Baofeng on April 07, 2023, 11:17:39 PM
Ok here is the official weigh in for the fight,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRQDiRXBLYw

Both fighters are within the limit, Yoshino clock in at 135 lbs even with Stevenson at 134.4 lbs. The announcer said that this is the WBC lightweight eliminator fight so who wins here will have a crack of the belt (either Haney or Loma depending on the result of their fight).

And I would say that there is also another must watch fight here in Keyshawn Davis vs Anthony Yigit. Keyshawn is a Olympian and coming up in ranks so I expect that this is going to be good fight between the two. They have been trash talking and you can even see in the final weigh in that they have to be separated. Both Shakur and Keyshawn are very close though, but perhaps in the future this two are going to clash as they are in the same weight class now as Shakur move to 135 lbs.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 07, 2023, 11:47:02 PM
^ It seems that Stevenson didn't go anything hard to make the cut in this division as he was below the limit. And as everyone is expecting how this fight will be, it could be one sided beating for the the Japanese.

He seems to be smiling though, not sure how to read this, could be he is confident that he can shock the world with a win here, or doesn't know the magnitude of this fight and will just go on with the motions against Shakur.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: robelneo on April 07, 2023, 11:54:33 PM
^ It seems that Stevenson didn't go anything hard to make the cut in this division as he was below the limit. And as everyone is expecting how this fight will be, it could be one sided beating for the the Japanese.

He seems to be smiling though, not sure how to read this, could be he is confident that he can shock the world with a win here, or doesn't know the magnitude of this fight and will just go on with the motions against Shakur.

Shakur will totally dominate this fight I'm sure of this, the only thing that will interest me in this fight is Shakur's style if he shows improvement in his skill and power because right now I have doubt if he can match the skill, movement, and power of both Haney and Loma, he must send messages to both fighters that he is a legit contender to whoever wins their match.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: btc_angela on April 08, 2023, 06:38:20 AM
^ It seems that Stevenson didn't go anything hard to make the cut in this division as he was below the limit. And as everyone is expecting how this fight will be, it could be one sided beating for the the Japanese.

He seems to be smiling though, not sure how to read this, could be he is confident that he can shock the world with a win here, or doesn't know the magnitude of this fight and will just go on with the motions against Shakur.

Shakur will totally dominate this fight I'm sure of this, the only thing that will interest me in this fight is Shakur's style if he shows improvement in his skill and power because right now I have doubt if he can match the skill, movement, and power of both Haney and Loma, he must send messages to both fighters that he is a legit contender to whoever wins their match.

I was waiting for this fight, but I must have lost the schedule as the fight is happening tomorrow my timezone. Yeah, he could dominate this fight, but again, this is the first time he is going up in weight. Shakur is not known to have power though, and most of his knockout is due to the body punch.

So it will be very good to see how he is in this new division. And maybe this is the reason why a tune up fight for him, because they don't know how he will be in 135 lbs so choosing a less known opponent is good for them. This fight is a eliminator I'm surprised though because it means that he will be given the chance to fight for the belt in his next fight, assuming he will win.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: freedomgo on April 08, 2023, 10:23:50 PM
^ It seems that Stevenson didn't go anything hard to make the cut in this division as he was below the limit. And as everyone is expecting how this fight will be, it could be one sided beating for the the Japanese.

He seems to be smiling though, not sure how to read this, could be he is confident that he can shock the world with a win here, or doesn't know the magnitude of this fight and will just go on with the motions against Shakur.

Can't say that I oppose him if he's indeed confident on this fight because this fight against Yoshino is the least of their camps worry and now both of them have passed the weigh-in, there's no hurdle on the road right now that will prevent Shakur from winning this fight. It's a one-sided fight no matter how we look into it because this is just a tune-up fight, Bob Arum will do everything just to make another cash cow that will have a huge fight in the future because this is a title eliminator fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Dave1 on April 09, 2023, 12:01:22 AM
^ It seems that Stevenson didn't go anything hard to make the cut in this division as he was below the limit. And as everyone is expecting how this fight will be, it could be one sided beating for the the Japanese.

He seems to be smiling though, not sure how to read this, could be he is confident that he can shock the world with a win here, or doesn't know the magnitude of this fight and will just go on with the motions against Shakur.

Can't say that I oppose him if he's indeed confident on this fight because this fight against Yoshino is the least of their camps worry and now both of them have passed the weigh-in, there's no hurdle on the road right now that will prevent Shakur from winning this fight. It's a one-sided fight no matter how we look into it because this is just a tune-up fight, Bob Arum will do everything just to make another cash cow that will have a huge fight in the future because this is a title eliminator fight.

And since this is a title eliminator fight, then Shakur will have to win here.

And Shakur said that Yoshino is just basic to him, Lol, that's confident, but we all know the talent he got so we will give him the pass for telling it that way as if saying that the Japanese will not put anything on him on this fight. And the more Yoshino tried, the more Shakur will step up and maybe look for that knockout to make big statement. And then look for whoever has the belt later for his title shot.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on April 09, 2023, 04:35:01 AM
Another one-sided dominant performance by Shakur Stevenson. They are already trying to build up Shakur vs. Haney. If Haney beats Lomachenko, they will be expected to fight each other and I think the winner should then be considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world. As good as Crawford and Spence are, they have waited too long to make that fight and I think these younger guys are surpassing them by trying to get the best fights made instead of hiding behind promoters.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 09, 2023, 05:03:12 AM
Another one-sided dominant performance by Shakur Stevenson. They are already trying to build up Shakur vs. Haney. If Haney beats Lomachenko, they will be expected to fight each other and I think the winner should then be considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world. As good as Crawford and Spence are, they have waited too long to make that fight and I think these younger guys are surpassing them by trying to get the best fights made instead of hiding behind promoters.

Yes, 6 rounds of boxing dominated by Shakur and as everyone is expecting, and he drops him 2x, obviously, as we have said, this is a cherry pick and most likely just a tune up fight for him at 135 lbs.

I guess the fights are being made because they are all the umbrella of Top Rank boxing.

So Bob Arum is going to push for it no matter what as it will be a win win situation for him. As compare to Spence and Crawford, very hard to negotiation but there are rumors that they are going to face each other already.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Jating on April 09, 2023, 05:14:40 AM
Another one-sided dominant performance by Shakur Stevenson. They are already trying to build up Shakur vs. Haney. If Haney beats Lomachenko, they will be expected to fight each other and I think the winner should then be considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world. As good as Crawford and Spence are, they have waited too long to make that fight and I think these younger guys are surpassing them by trying to get the best fights made instead of hiding behind promoters.

And with this win, can we give credit to Shakur with this dominant performance of him? For me, he is not tested in this fight and from the beginning, it's just a matter on how he is going to win here, but knockout which round.

It's just very unfortunate that Isaac Cruz turn down this fight as a mandatory fight. It could have been a better fight than the 4th rank Japanese. Cruz is rank 2nd though. But in any case, Shakur has one step inside already, if it Haney that will win, then still a good fight as both are still very young


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Jawhead999 on April 09, 2023, 09:22:03 AM
Another one-sided dominant performance by Shakur Stevenson. They are already trying to build up Shakur vs. Haney. If Haney beats Lomachenko, they will be expected to fight each other and I think the winner should then be considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world. As good as Crawford and Spence are, they have waited too long to make that fight and I think these younger guys are surpassing them by trying to get the best fights made instead of hiding behind promoters.
It's really crazy for Shakur to fight with the best of the best lightweight boxer, a huge challenge for him. Well I'm not really sure if the winner will be considered the best pound for pound boxer in the world because both Usyk and Inoue haven't lose yet. I think Inoue will become the best pound for pound boxer in the world if he able to beat Stephen in Fulton in his upcoming fight.

As we can see Shakur doesn't have a lot power, but with his stamina and speed he can win via TKO in this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: bittraffic on April 09, 2023, 09:31:56 AM
Another one-sided dominant performance by Shakur Stevenson. They are already trying to build up Shakur vs. Haney. If Haney beats Lomachenko, they will be expected to fight each other and I think the winner should then be considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world. As good as Crawford and Spence are, they have waited too long to make that fight and I think these younger guys are surpassing them by trying to get the best fights made instead of hiding behind promoters.
It's really crazy for Shakur to fight with the best of the best lightweight boxer, a huge challenge for him. Well I'm not really sure if the winner will be considered the best pound for pound boxer in the world because both Usyk and Inoue haven't lose yet. I think Inoue will become the best pound for pound boxer in the world if he able to beat Stephen in Fulton in his upcoming fight.

As we can see Shakur doesn't have a lot power, but with his stamina and speed he can win via TKO in this fight.

This fight didn't get so much attention from gamblers because of Adesanya vs Pereira 2 fight. And it's obviously a mismatch fight knowing that Shakur is a more skilled boxer than Yoshino. The bookmakers knew it from the start.

I don't think Shakur has no power. He probably just toying Yoshino.
The referee didn't wait for the 3rd knockdown before stopping this fight.  Yoshino may have contested for a bit but I think he is grateful for the notion or he would end in the most embarrassing KO.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: robelneo on April 09, 2023, 11:35:29 AM


This fight didn't get so much attention from gamblers because of Adesanya vs Pereira 2 fight. And it's obviously a mismatch fight knowing that Shakur is a more skilled boxer than Yoshino. The bookmakers knew it from the start.

I don't think Shakur has no power. He probably just toying Yoshino.
The referee didn't wait for the 3rd knockdown before stopping this fight.  Yoshino may have contested for a bit but I think he is grateful for the notion or he would end in the most embarrassing KO.

I agree with the referee stopping the fight it's a clear mismatch, I know Shakur has an edge but I never imagined that the fight is a big mismatch, Shakur has been hitting Shuichiro at will and Shuichiro's punches has no impact on Shakur.
Shuichiro is not on Shakur's level, because of the impressive wins he deserves to have a crack at the Haney- Loma winner, but I still have doubt that he can match Haney and Loma's technical skill and speed,  both fighters still have the edge on skill and speed over Shakur.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: bisdak40 on April 09, 2023, 11:52:39 AM
Another one-sided dominant performance by Shakur Stevenson. They are already trying to build up Shakur vs. Haney. If Haney beats Lomachenko, they will be expected to fight each other and I think the winner should then be considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world. As good as Crawford and Spence are, they have waited too long to make that fight and I think these younger guys are surpassing them by trying to get the best fights made instead of hiding behind promoters.
It's really crazy for Shakur to fight with the best of the best lightweight boxer, a huge challenge for him. Well I'm not really sure if the winner will be considered the best pound for pound boxer in the world because both Usyk and Inoue haven't lose yet. I think Inoue will become the best pound for pound boxer in the world if he able to beat Stephen in Fulton in his upcoming fight.

As we can see Shakur doesn't have a lot power, but with his stamina and speed he can win via TKO in this fight.

This fight was made in order for Shakur to look good and they were successful as he dominated and toyed the Japanese Yoshino but still Top Rank will be having trouble finding Shakur an opponent that could earn him the respect of the boxing community, don't get me wrong but with Shakur fighting a nobody in the lightweight division is so boring to watch but I hope that it will change in his next few fights.

Congrats to those who bet for Shakur to win via TKO, that would be 3.xx if I'm not mistaken.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: coin-investor on April 09, 2023, 12:11:54 PM


This fight was made in order for Shakur to look good and they were successful as he dominated and toyed the Japanese Yoshino but still Top Rank will be having trouble finding Shakur an opponent that could earn him the respect of the boxing community, don't get me wrong but with Shakur fighting a nobody in the lightweight division is so boring to watch but I hope that it will change in his next few fights.

This is a bad fight and a bad preparation if he is going to fight whoever wins between Loma and Haney,
the match is very one-sided I thought I was watching a match between a professional and an amateur, Yoshino I believe is an unbeaten fighter but he is nowhere on the level of Shakur, this is the kind of fight that the boxing community will not watch even buy a ticket his promoters should give him a real challenge this is as easy as a walk in a park.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Slow death on April 09, 2023, 02:50:25 PM
I believe that for most people the result of that fight was too obvious, Yoshino didn't represent a great danger to Shakur and during the fight it was possible to notice that, Shakur's punches were too heavy for Yoshino to handle, and Shakur he had very fast punches and when Yoshino tried to counter - attack he was very vulnerable and Shakur with his speed did not let these opportunities escape and attacked Yoshino with his heavy punches and Yoshino could not bear to receive these punches, so Yoshino every minute that passed was more weakened, slower and his punches gave the impression of being less heavy

I particularly yesterday, even before the fight, I thought that Shakur would win this fight without much difficulty, but I didn't remember in time to place a bet, I was watching a soccer game and I completely forgot to place a bet on this fight, I don't know what the odds were yesterday or if there was a good market on stake.com, but it would be a good game to have added to my parlay, but finally, people who have the opportunity to watch these fights live and who have many reasons to be very happy, especially if they hit the bet


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Japinat on April 10, 2023, 02:05:37 AM


This fight was made in order for Shakur to look good and they were successful as he dominated and toyed the Japanese Yoshino but still Top Rank will be having trouble finding Shakur an opponent that could earn him the respect of the boxing community, don't get me wrong but with Shakur fighting a nobody in the lightweight division is so boring to watch but I hope that it will change in his next few fights.

This is a bad fight and a bad preparation if he is going to fight whoever wins between Loma and Haney,
the match is very one-sided I thought I was watching a match between a professional and an amateur, Yoshino I believe is an unbeaten fighter but he is nowhere on the level of Shakur, this is the kind of fight that the boxing community will not watch even buy a ticket his promoters should give him a real challenge this is as easy as a walk in a park.

Yes, that was the first defeat in Shuichiro Yoshino's career and I bet he already knew that he will have his first defeat in-front of Shakur because he has been chosen to fight for Shakur's tune-up but I agree, this is really a bad preparation if Bob Arum is indeed letting him face the winner of Loma-Haney fight. Although, I somehow sense that Shakur is already ready for a fight like that.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: stadus on April 10, 2023, 01:01:13 PM
I believe that for most people the result of that fight was too obvious, Yoshino didn't represent a great danger to Shakur and during the fight it was possible to notice that, Shakur's punches were too heavy for Yoshino to handle, and Shakur he had very fast punches and when Yoshino tried to counter - attack he was very vulnerable and Shakur with his speed did not let these opportunities escape and attacked Yoshino with his heavy punches and Yoshino could not bear to receive these punches, so Yoshino every minute that passed was more weakened, slower and his punches gave the impression of being less heavy

I particularly yesterday, even before the fight, I thought that Shakur would win this fight without much difficulty, but I didn't remember in time to place a bet, I was watching a soccer game and I completely forgot to place a bet on this fight, I don't know what the odds were yesterday or if there was a good market on stake.com, but it would be a good game to have added to my parlay, but finally, people who have the opportunity to watch these fights live and who have many reasons to be very happy, especially if they hit the bet.

That was indeed a one-sided fight and we already knew that for a fact even before the fight commenced, and when these two are dancing inside the ring, their power difference becomes more obvious because Yoshino just can't catch-up with Shakur's power punches and he was also having difficulties in countering Shakur's attacks, so difficult that he was already ate a punch before he can really defend himself.

About the bet, I managed to bet on Shakur via way of TKO/KO a week ahead from the date of their fight. I believed that he could finish the fight in that same way even though he's not much of a KO boxer because this is just a cherry-picked fight aiming to highlight Shakur's climb.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: TravelMug on April 11, 2023, 07:31:24 PM


This fight was made in order for Shakur to look good and they were successful as he dominated and toyed the Japanese Yoshino but still Top Rank will be having trouble finding Shakur an opponent that could earn him the respect of the boxing community, don't get me wrong but with Shakur fighting a nobody in the lightweight division is so boring to watch but I hope that it will change in his next few fights.

This is a bad fight and a bad preparation if he is going to fight whoever wins between Loma and Haney,
the match is very one-sided I thought I was watching a match between a professional and an amateur, Yoshino I believe is an unbeaten fighter but he is nowhere on the level of Shakur, this is the kind of fight that the boxing community will not watch even buy a ticket his promoters should give him a real challenge this is as easy as a walk in a park.

Yes, that was the first defeat in Shuichiro Yoshino's career and I bet he already knew that he will have his first defeat in-front of Shakur because he has been chosen to fight for Shakur's tune-up but I agree, this is really a bad preparation if Bob Arum is indeed letting him face the winner of Loma-Haney fight. Although, I somehow sense that Shakur is already ready for a fight like that.

I don't think this is a bad preparation for Shakur, he has been on top level boxing for years, because a champion as well at the young age. So it's just enough for him to have this opportunity to fight the winner between Loma and Haney.

On the other hand, it is Haney who is in the dilemma here, there are reports that he might go to 140 lbs if he beat Loma in this fight.

This is just pure speculation, and it doesn't mean that the is avoiding Shakur, but maybe his body can't really make 135 lbs or having a hard time so it make sense that this will be his last fight at 135 lbs to defend all his belts.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: btc_angela on April 11, 2023, 07:47:53 PM
Another one-sided dominant performance by Shakur Stevenson. They are already trying to build up Shakur vs. Haney. If Haney beats Lomachenko, they will be expected to fight each other and I think the winner should then be considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world. As good as Crawford and Spence are, they have waited too long to make that fight and I think these younger guys are surpassing them by trying to get the best fights made instead of hiding behind promoters.
It's really crazy for Shakur to fight with the best of the best lightweight boxer, a huge challenge for him. Well I'm not really sure if the winner will be considered the best pound for pound boxer in the world because both Usyk and Inoue haven't lose yet. I think Inoue will become the best pound for pound boxer in the world if he able to beat Stephen in Fulton in his upcoming fight.

As we can see Shakur doesn't have a lot power, but with his stamina and speed he can win via TKO in this fight.

This fight was made in order for Shakur to look good and they were successful as he dominated and toyed the Japanese Yoshino but still Top Rank will be having trouble finding Shakur an opponent that could earn him the respect of the boxing community, don't get me wrong but with Shakur fighting a nobody in the lightweight division is so boring to watch but I hope that it will change in his next few fights.

Congrats to those who bet for Shakur to win via TKO, that would be 3.xx if I'm not mistaken.

Everyone is getting that Floyd treatment, boring and playing defensive games, not just for Shakur but even Haney has had this treatment already. The hype fight is Davis vs Garcia, with no belts on the line but it's talk more than the fight between Loma and Haney which is the true championship fight.

Unless the next one will be Shakur and Devin, they are also close because they are former Olympian if I'm not mistaken and has cross paths for sure in the past. However, even if this two fights, then it will be the same, two boxers that doesn't have the hype, but they are great and more of a sweet science fighter like Floyd who loves to play defense and read their opponents.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8
Post by: Baofeng on April 11, 2023, 10:13:14 PM
I'm locking this thread, in summary,

- Stevenson won by technical knockout in round six rounds, as the referee stop the fight as Yoshino is not throwing enough puncher
- With this, Shakur has officially arrived at 135 lbs, taking that 0 from Yoshino
- This is a title eliminator, so Shakur will face the winner of Loma vs Haney at least for the WBC belt next

Congrats to those who win their bet on Shakur winning by knockout/technical knockout and rounds under 7.5.

And thanks to those who posted and keep this thread with their predictions.