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April 01, 2023, 02:25:14 PM
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Shakur Stevenson details how Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia will unfold and picks winner



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Former two-weight world champion Shakur Stevenson believes there is only one winner when Gervonta 'Tank' Davis meets Ryan Garcia on April 22 in Las Vegas.

Both men are currently in training camp ahead of what is set to be a huge event next month, but when it comes to predicting a winner, many are struggling due to the immense talent Davis and Garcia possess.

However, in the eyes of Stevenson, he claims that Garcia's speed could be his downfall and could give an opening to Davis to end the fight during the later rounds.

“Tank is going to beat him, by stoppage – late," Stevenson told Fight Hub TV.

"Ryan is going to start off real fast and if he’s starts too fast I think he’s going to break down later on.”

Source: https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/shakur-stevenson-details-how-gervonta-davis-vs-ryan-garcia-will-unfold-and-picks-winner/1fwvadiod6otm16fzenrmyg513


Interesting opinion and now I'm really curious enough what does Shakur mean by "Ryan's own speed could be his downfall".

Could it be that Ryan Garcia will be more focused in his offensive and forgot that he also got to defend himself specially his glass-jaw and that will be the reason of his downfall, or maybe Shakur is referring something else? What do you guys think?

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April 01, 2023, 05:54:39 PM
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Shakur Stevenson details how Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia will unfold and picks winner



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Former two-weight world champion Shakur Stevenson believes there is only one winner when Gervonta 'Tank' Davis meets Ryan Garcia on April 22 in Las Vegas.

Both men are currently in training camp ahead of what is set to be a huge event next month, but when it comes to predicting a winner, many are struggling due to the immense talent Davis and Garcia possess.

However, in the eyes of Stevenson, he claims that Garcia's speed could be his downfall and could give an opening to Davis to end the fight during the later rounds.

“Tank is going to beat him, by stoppage – late," Stevenson told Fight Hub TV.

"Ryan is going to start off real fast and if he’s starts too fast I think he’s going to break down later on.”

Source: https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/shakur-stevenson-details-how-gervonta-davis-vs-ryan-garcia-will-unfold-and-picks-winner/1fwvadiod6otm16fzenrmyg513


Interesting opinion and now I'm really curious enough what does Shakur mean by "Ryan's own speed could be his downfall".

Could it be that Ryan Garcia will be more focused in his offensive and forgot that he also got to defend himself specially his glass-jaw and that will be the reason of his downfall, or maybe Shakur is referring something else? What do you guys think?

It could happen if Ryan will just straight ahead to bombard Davis and he may forget that Davis is also a counterpuncher. If Ryan couldn't knock Davis in the first few rounds, he will be KOed once he runs out of gas.

But Ryan will also have his plans and both of them will be cautious with what they do in this fight. I think both of them will wait for thier opportunity which in the first rounds Ryan will just going to throw jabs from a distance and it's Davis who will chase Ryan, giving Ryan the advantage.


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April 01, 2023, 08:32:49 PM
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^^ Perhaps if Ryan will fell in love with his one punch knockout power and it might be one reason that he could lost in this fight. He just go their and try to knockout Davis and if Tank is wise enough to circle around him and avoid his best shot and perhaps Davis has a good chin, then Ryan can't win in this fight.

So going back to this fight, Stevenson will no doubt has the advantage against his Japanese foe. I haven't seen though the split or what is the money in the table for this fight. Just interested because Yoshino hasn't travel outside of his native country and this is the first time. Maybe the money offered to him is good enough to go outside of his backyard and face one of the best rising boxers we have right now.

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April 01, 2023, 08:38:06 PM
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^^ Perhaps if Ryan will fell in love with his one punch knockout power and it might be one reason that he could lost in this fight. He just go their and try to knockout Davis and if Tank is wise enough to circle around him and avoid his best shot and perhaps Davis has a good chin, then Ryan can't win in this fight.

But Ryan Garcia and his team should be wise enough not to just rely on the power of one hit punch to win this fight. They should look for the weak spot if Tank if there is any that they can think.

So going back to this fight, Stevenson will no doubt has the advantage against his Japanese foe. I haven't seen though the split or what is the money in the table for this fight. Just interested because Yoshino hasn't travel outside of his native country and this is the first time. Maybe the money offered to him is good enough to go outside of his backyard and face one of the best rising boxers we have right now.

Yoshino beat Nakatani in Japan. And we all know that Nakatani has been fighting in the US against Teo Lopez which was very close and he Lopez just outlast Nakatani. And then next is against the comeback of Loma after his lost to Lopez. So Nakatani fought very hard that night, but Loma is very different fighter. So perhaps they think that Yoshino has want it takes to fight in the US too just like his compatriot which he beat already.

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April 01, 2023, 10:13:40 PM
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So going back to this fight, Stevenson will no doubt has the advantage against his Japanese foe. I haven't seen though the split or what is the money in the table for this fight. Just interested because Yoshino hasn't travel outside of his native country and this is the first time. Maybe the money offered to him is good enough to go outside of his backyard and face one of the best rising boxers we have right now.

Without a doubt these two fighters will bring in a lot of money, from what I could read the tickets for the fight will sell out, they also have sponsors, they have all the attention they create for each fighter to get more individual sponsors, their social networks have many followers assets that allow to attract a lot of attention from companies, these fights give many opportunities to the fighters and the promoters don't rest until they manage to explore all the ways so that they can get the most money in a fight, just see:

"Following the overwhelming success of Shakur Stevenson’s return to Newark in September, we are thrilled to build on that momentum with another stacked Top Rank boxing card on Saturday, April 8th,” said Dylan Wanagiel, VP of Sports Properties & Special Events for Prudential Center. “As Shakur continues to rise the pound-for-pound rankings, we take great pride in being his home. We all witnessed just how much Shakur means to the City of Newark a few months ago, as the event sold the most tickets to a boxing event in our venue's 15-year history. Alongside our world-class partners at Top Rank and ESPN, we look forward to raising the bar for boxing fans not only in New Jersey but across the globe.”

source: https://www.frontproofmedia.com/boxing/shakur-stevenson-returns-home-april-8-against-shuichiro-yoshino-in-lightweight-main-event

It's strange that I still don't see this fight on the stake, I don't know if maybe I'm not looking right, but I can't see this fight on the stake, will they add this fight when it's much closer to the day of the fight or else this fight will not be added. Anyway, I'm checking every day, I want to see the odds and if it's worth it, I'll just bet on this fight, although I still don't have a favorite fighter in this fight, I don't know any of the fighters very well.

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April 01, 2023, 10:35:42 PM
Last edit: May 19, 2023, 05:18:05 PM by Baofeng
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So going back to this fight, Stevenson will no doubt has the advantage against his Japanese foe. I haven't seen though the split or what is the money in the table for this fight. Just interested because Yoshino hasn't travel outside of his native country and this is the first time. Maybe the money offered to him is good enough to go outside of his backyard and face one of the best rising boxers we have right now.

Without a doubt these two fighters will bring in a lot of money, from what I could read the tickets for the fight will sell out, they also have sponsors, they have all the attention they create for each fighter to get more individual sponsors, their social networks have many followers assets that allow to attract a lot of attention from companies, these fights give many opportunities to the fighters and the promoters don't rest until they manage to explore all the ways so that they can get the most money in a fight, just see:

"Following the overwhelming success of Shakur Stevenson’s return to Newark in September, we are thrilled to build on that momentum with another stacked Top Rank boxing card on Saturday, April 8th,” said Dylan Wanagiel, VP of Sports Properties & Special Events for Prudential Center. “As Shakur continues to rise the pound-for-pound rankings, we take great pride in being his home. We all witnessed just how much Shakur means to the City of Newark a few months ago, as the event sold the most tickets to a boxing event in our venue's 15-year history. Alongside our world-class partners at Top Rank and ESPN, we look forward to raising the bar for boxing fans not only in New Jersey but across the globe.”

source: https://www.frontproofmedia.com/boxing/shakur-stevenson-returns-home-april-8-against-shuichiro-yoshino-in-lightweight-main-event

It's strange that I still don't see this fight on the stake, I don't know if maybe I'm not looking right, but I can't see this fight on the stake, will they add this fight when it's much closer to the day of the fight or else this fight will not be added. Anyway, I'm checking every day, I want to see the odds and if it's worth it, I'll just bet on this fight, although I still don't have a favorite fighter in this fight, I don't know any of the fighters very well.

I'm not sure how can you missed it on Stake as it has been there for weeks now:



You need to click "International Matchups" then below "Load More" to see more matches in the future. It won't simply display the fight as is because there are a lot of boxing matches in schedule.

As for the split of the purse question, Shakur got more than 63/37 split against Herring that time in his favor. I know it's absurd but if my memory serves me right, it was under the WBO rule. So in this case, it might be the same or even higher percentage for Shakur because he is the A-side of this fight and some of us is not familiar with Yoshino although he is being rank in the top 5. So yeah, more money for him, and the upside for Yoshino is that he will get the exposure in the US soil for the very first time.

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April 01, 2023, 11:31:52 PM
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Interesting opinion and now I'm really curious enough what does Shakur mean by "Ryan's own speed could be his downfall".

Isn't it obvious?  Ryan is slower than most of the quick boxers.  So it means in terms of speed, quickness, and reflex, Shakur thinks that Ryan Garcia is sub par against the other elite boxers.


Could it be that Ryan Garcia will be more focused in his offensive and forgot that he also got to defend himself specially his glass-jaw and that will be the reason of his downfall, or maybe Shakur is referring something else? What do you guys think?

As I stated above, Ryan Garcia's speed, reflex, quickness is much lower than Davis, with that Shakur thinks that Ryan Garica will be slow to react on Davis's offensives and will have a problem reacting on Davis's speed.  Ryan may focus on being balanced since he has the advantage, he can do both offensive and defensive in his range but Shakur believes that Davis is faster and may leave Ryan Garcia open when it launches its attack since Davis can just parry it with his speed and launch an offensive that Ryan may fail to defend because of his slow reaction.
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Interesting opinion and now I'm really curious enough what does Shakur mean by "Ryan's own speed could be his downfall".

Isn't it obvious?  Ryan is slower than most of the quick boxers.  So it means in terms of speed, quickness, and reflex, Shakur thinks that Ryan Garcia is sub par against the other elite boxers.


Could it be that Ryan Garcia will be more focused in his offensive and forgot that he also got to defend himself specially his glass-jaw and that will be the reason of his downfall, or maybe Shakur is referring something else? What do you guys think?

As I stated above, Ryan Garcia's speed, reflex, quickness is much lower than Davis, with that Shakur thinks that Ryan Garica will be slow to react on Davis's offensives and will have a problem reacting on Davis's speed.  Ryan may focus on being balanced since he has the advantage, he can do both offensive and defensive in his range but Shakur believes that Davis is faster and may leave Ryan Garcia open when it launches its attack since Davis can just parry it with his speed and launch an offensive that Ryan may fail to defend because of his slow reaction.

True, both of them may have the speed required to give a KO punch but we sure do know that there's always that one boxer who is much more agile and faster than the other and in this case, Davis got the advantage on those mentioned factors and that height advantage of Garcia is not really an advantage, I reckon.
Gervonta Davis is already accustomed in fighting some boxers that got the height and reach advantage, this is certainly not his first time but look at him now, he possess the WBA regular belt because of his techniques and IQ.

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Upset still possible but I can be more biased here since byt stats and by capabilities Shakur do have a huge advantage.

Not unless if Yoshino will get that lucky opening and throw a KO punch that will bring Shakur in the floor.

The chances of Stevenson getting knocked out are very low because we know how careful of a boxer he is. According to his stats, he is not a KO artist and yet remains undefeated. This means that he does not take unnecessary risks by going toe to toe and instead relies on his advantage, which is his quickness. Therefore, it is possible for him to get KOed, but the chances are close to none.
Well, looking at their individual stats, obviously Yoshino has bigger number of knockout wins than Stevenson, but I don’t think he will be easily knockout by Yoshino since we know that he’s more a fighter and warrior when it comes to the ring. But we can’t underestimate too the strength of Yoshino as he would never reach this far if he’s not good enough. So let’s just hope we’ll see a good fight then, and only then we can tell who’s going to level up and bound to fight a heavier opponent.

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Upset still possible but I can be more biased here since byt stats and by capabilities Shakur do have a huge advantage.

Not unless if Yoshino will get that lucky opening and throw a KO punch that will bring Shakur in the floor.

The chances of Stevenson getting knocked out are very low because we know how careful of a boxer he is. According to his stats, he is not a KO artist and yet remains undefeated. This means that he does not take unnecessary risks by going toe to toe and instead relies on his advantage, which is his quickness. Therefore, it is possible for him to get KOed, but the chances are close to none.
Well, looking at their individual stats, obviously Yoshino has bigger number of knockout wins than Stevenson, but I don’t think he will be easily knockout by Yoshino since we know that he’s more a fighter and warrior when it comes to the ring. But we can’t underestimate too the strength of Yoshino as he would never reach this far if he’s not good enough. So let’s just hope we’ll see a good fight then, and only then we can tell who’s going to level up and bound to fight a heavier opponent.

And the skills and the opponents that Yoshino face, it's all Japanese, not saying that they are not good or tough, but Stevenson has face tougher opponents and won all of them, although his knockout percentage is not that high. But as we all know, it's better to take a win in either case, UD or knockout is still a W. For sure the camp of Stevenson has seen his record and will not underestimate the strength of the Japanese. On the contrary, with Shakur's talent, he might play with Yoshino's strength and power and beat him on his own game. So it's going to be a good fight, but in the end, Stevenson will be too much and win this fight.
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April 03, 2023, 06:05:33 PM
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Upset still possible but I can be more biased here since byt stats and by capabilities Shakur do have a huge advantage.

Not unless if Yoshino will get that lucky opening and throw a KO punch that will bring Shakur in the floor.

The chances of Stevenson getting knocked out are very low because we know how careful of a boxer he is. According to his stats, he is not a KO artist and yet remains undefeated. This means that he does not take unnecessary risks by going toe to toe and instead relies on his advantage, which is his quickness. Therefore, it is possible for him to get KOed, but the chances are close to none.
Well, looking at their individual stats, obviously Yoshino has bigger number of knockout wins than Stevenson, but I don’t think he will be easily knockout by Yoshino since we know that he’s more a fighter and warrior when it comes to the ring. But we can’t underestimate too the strength of Yoshino as he would never reach this far if he’s not good enough. So let’s just hope we’ll see a good fight then, and only then we can tell who’s going to level up and bound to fight a heavier opponent.

And the skills and the opponents that Yoshino face, it's all Japanese, not saying that they are not good or tough, but Stevenson has face tougher opponents and won all of them, although his knockout percentage is not that high. But as we all know, it's better to take a win in either case, UD or knockout is still a W. For sure the camp of Stevenson has seen his record and will not underestimate the strength of the Japanese. On the contrary, with Shakur's talent, he might play with Yoshino's strength and power and beat him on his own game. So it's going to be a good fight, but in the end, Stevenson will be too much and win this fight.

There is definitely a good reason why Shakur and his camp chose to fight Yoshino in his debut, aside from the fact that they are looking forward to make a statement on his climb, they aren't taking any chance to give Shakur a bad impression on his first fight at 135. I believe they chose Yoshino because the Japanese boxer doesn't have any good credentials on his record and haven't got any good names too. In the end, this is just a cherry picked fight to highlight Shakur on his climb.

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April 07, 2023, 11:17:39 PM
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Ok here is the official weigh in for the fight,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRQDiRXBLYw

Both fighters are within the limit, Yoshino clock in at 135 lbs even with Stevenson at 134.4 lbs. The announcer said that this is the WBC lightweight eliminator fight so who wins here will have a crack of the belt (either Haney or Loma depending on the result of their fight).

And I would say that there is also another must watch fight here in Keyshawn Davis vs Anthony Yigit. Keyshawn is a Olympian and coming up in ranks so I expect that this is going to be good fight between the two. They have been trash talking and you can even see in the final weigh in that they have to be separated. Both Shakur and Keyshawn are very close though, but perhaps in the future this two are going to clash as they are in the same weight class now as Shakur move to 135 lbs.

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^ It seems that Stevenson didn't go anything hard to make the cut in this division as he was below the limit. And as everyone is expecting how this fight will be, it could be one sided beating for the the Japanese.

He seems to be smiling though, not sure how to read this, could be he is confident that he can shock the world with a win here, or doesn't know the magnitude of this fight and will just go on with the motions against Shakur.

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^ It seems that Stevenson didn't go anything hard to make the cut in this division as he was below the limit. And as everyone is expecting how this fight will be, it could be one sided beating for the the Japanese.

He seems to be smiling though, not sure how to read this, could be he is confident that he can shock the world with a win here, or doesn't know the magnitude of this fight and will just go on with the motions against Shakur.

Shakur will totally dominate this fight I'm sure of this, the only thing that will interest me in this fight is Shakur's style if he shows improvement in his skill and power because right now I have doubt if he can match the skill, movement, and power of both Haney and Loma, he must send messages to both fighters that he is a legit contender to whoever wins their match.

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^ It seems that Stevenson didn't go anything hard to make the cut in this division as he was below the limit. And as everyone is expecting how this fight will be, it could be one sided beating for the the Japanese.

He seems to be smiling though, not sure how to read this, could be he is confident that he can shock the world with a win here, or doesn't know the magnitude of this fight and will just go on with the motions against Shakur.

Shakur will totally dominate this fight I'm sure of this, the only thing that will interest me in this fight is Shakur's style if he shows improvement in his skill and power because right now I have doubt if he can match the skill, movement, and power of both Haney and Loma, he must send messages to both fighters that he is a legit contender to whoever wins their match.

I was waiting for this fight, but I must have lost the schedule as the fight is happening tomorrow my timezone. Yeah, he could dominate this fight, but again, this is the first time he is going up in weight. Shakur is not known to have power though, and most of his knockout is due to the body punch.

So it will be very good to see how he is in this new division. And maybe this is the reason why a tune up fight for him, because they don't know how he will be in 135 lbs so choosing a less known opponent is good for them. This fight is a eliminator I'm surprised though because it means that he will be given the chance to fight for the belt in his next fight, assuming he will win.

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April 08, 2023, 10:23:50 PM
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^ It seems that Stevenson didn't go anything hard to make the cut in this division as he was below the limit. And as everyone is expecting how this fight will be, it could be one sided beating for the the Japanese.

He seems to be smiling though, not sure how to read this, could be he is confident that he can shock the world with a win here, or doesn't know the magnitude of this fight and will just go on with the motions against Shakur.

Can't say that I oppose him if he's indeed confident on this fight because this fight against Yoshino is the least of their camps worry and now both of them have passed the weigh-in, there's no hurdle on the road right now that will prevent Shakur from winning this fight. It's a one-sided fight no matter how we look into it because this is just a tune-up fight, Bob Arum will do everything just to make another cash cow that will have a huge fight in the future because this is a title eliminator fight.

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^ It seems that Stevenson didn't go anything hard to make the cut in this division as he was below the limit. And as everyone is expecting how this fight will be, it could be one sided beating for the the Japanese.

He seems to be smiling though, not sure how to read this, could be he is confident that he can shock the world with a win here, or doesn't know the magnitude of this fight and will just go on with the motions against Shakur.

Can't say that I oppose him if he's indeed confident on this fight because this fight against Yoshino is the least of their camps worry and now both of them have passed the weigh-in, there's no hurdle on the road right now that will prevent Shakur from winning this fight. It's a one-sided fight no matter how we look into it because this is just a tune-up fight, Bob Arum will do everything just to make another cash cow that will have a huge fight in the future because this is a title eliminator fight.

And since this is a title eliminator fight, then Shakur will have to win here.

And Shakur said that Yoshino is just basic to him, Lol, that's confident, but we all know the talent he got so we will give him the pass for telling it that way as if saying that the Japanese will not put anything on him on this fight. And the more Yoshino tried, the more Shakur will step up and maybe look for that knockout to make big statement. And then look for whoever has the belt later for his title shot.

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Another one-sided dominant performance by Shakur Stevenson. They are already trying to build up Shakur vs. Haney. If Haney beats Lomachenko, they will be expected to fight each other and I think the winner should then be considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world. As good as Crawford and Spence are, they have waited too long to make that fight and I think these younger guys are surpassing them by trying to get the best fights made instead of hiding behind promoters.

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April 09, 2023, 05:03:12 AM
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Another one-sided dominant performance by Shakur Stevenson. They are already trying to build up Shakur vs. Haney. If Haney beats Lomachenko, they will be expected to fight each other and I think the winner should then be considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world. As good as Crawford and Spence are, they have waited too long to make that fight and I think these younger guys are surpassing them by trying to get the best fights made instead of hiding behind promoters.

Yes, 6 rounds of boxing dominated by Shakur and as everyone is expecting, and he drops him 2x, obviously, as we have said, this is a cherry pick and most likely just a tune up fight for him at 135 lbs.

I guess the fights are being made because they are all the umbrella of Top Rank boxing.

So Bob Arum is going to push for it no matter what as it will be a win win situation for him. As compare to Spence and Crawford, very hard to negotiation but there are rumors that they are going to face each other already.
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April 09, 2023, 05:14:40 AM
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Another one-sided dominant performance by Shakur Stevenson. They are already trying to build up Shakur vs. Haney. If Haney beats Lomachenko, they will be expected to fight each other and I think the winner should then be considered the best pound for pound fighter in the world. As good as Crawford and Spence are, they have waited too long to make that fight and I think these younger guys are surpassing them by trying to get the best fights made instead of hiding behind promoters.

And with this win, can we give credit to Shakur with this dominant performance of him? For me, he is not tested in this fight and from the beginning, it's just a matter on how he is going to win here, but knockout which round.

It's just very unfortunate that Isaac Cruz turn down this fight as a mandatory fight. It could have been a better fight than the 4th rank Japanese. Cruz is rank 2nd though. But in any case, Shakur has one step inside already, if it Haney that will win, then still a good fight as both are still very young
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