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Title: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: JamesBorn on March 10, 2023, 07:00:11 AM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Tellek Garing on March 10, 2023, 11:24:18 AM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
The altcoin market is rapidly evolving, and it is likely that some of these digital currencies will eventually be able to stand on their own without depending on Bitcoin to determine their price actions.

While Bitcoin was the first fully developed cryptocurrency and currently serves as the dominant coin, much like the US dollar, individuals often hedge their tokens and altcoins against Bitcoin when they perceive a risk in holding onto a particular altcoin. This practice can result in the value of these tokens dropping when Bitcoin declines and appreciating when Bitcoin rises.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: tokeweed on March 10, 2023, 12:51:10 PM



That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?

You're wrong.  Maybe you could be right at the time when Ethereum was just starting out.  But now?  Ethereum def doesn't need BTC to exist to survive.  Do you know how much in fees Ethereum generates on a daily basis?  I'd imagine it's more than double than what BTC generates.  And it's the most used blockchain in crypto right now, BTC not so much.  I don't think I have to check onchain activity to confirm it.

ETH is where it's gonna be all at bud, even with the technical inferiorities.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: slashz9 on March 10, 2023, 02:13:32 PM
I don't think altcoins can survive without btc, so I think the price of btc will continue to affect the price of altcoins.
some examples have been seen when an altcoin is rising, then the btc price suddenly drops, the altcoin will also immediately fall.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: crwth on March 10, 2023, 04:27:38 PM
The majority of cryptocurrencies are tied up with Bitcoin in one way or another. For sure if you are saying crypto, then you can automatically assume that it's connected to Bitcoin since it's the first one and pairs are definitely paired with it and that's how altcoins are being affected once significant price changes happen like today.

Just look at the market and you will see how deep BTC is in every cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: rhomelmabini on March 10, 2023, 04:36:50 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
Says who that altcoins has no value without BTC? I think altcoins will thrive even Bitcoin fails though I ain't see a thing right now that it will fail. The connection in between is that altcoins mimic Bitcoin to experiment if they are much better than the King of cryptocurrency.

Again, look at crypto market cap of Ethereum, it's just below Bitcoin and  with that market cap, it can survive even if Bitcoin fails.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: jacafbiz on March 10, 2023, 04:58:04 PM
Days like this remind me of the time Altcoiners used to get carried away in the bull market and start shouting flipping, the design of Bitcoin is well thought of by the King Satoshi and Bitcoin is the most liquid market in the space, so if the liquidity reduces, it affects all the market that is why you see BTC drops 1% and Altcoin dumps 5% at times because there is no liquidity to back them up. I just hope this current bleeding stops and there is life back in the market, the reason being that everyone suffers at the end of the day


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: X-ray on March 10, 2023, 11:24:42 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.
Anything can't survive without bitcoin but since there are also stable token in the market and i think opposite thing gonna happen even if bitcoin was disappearing. Altcoins used bitcoin to determine its price in the past but it's now different. Some coins were using stable tokens to determine the price of altcoins. Im not sure if altcoin will have no value if bitcoin was disappearing from the market.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
I don't think so. Some altcoins will able to keep its position. The important thing of bitcoin is being used as the main pair for any of altcoins. People saw bitcoin as major coin that is likely to be in the same position as dollar.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: sana54210 on March 11, 2023, 07:23:10 PM
Days like this remind me of the time Altcoiners used to get carried away in the bull market and start shouting flipping, the design of Bitcoin is well thought of by the King Satoshi and Bitcoin is the most liquid market in the space, so if the liquidity reduces, it affects all the market that is why you see BTC drops 1% and Altcoin dumps 5% at times because there is no liquidity to back them up. I just hope this current bleeding stops and there is life back in the market, the reason being that everyone suffers at the end of the day
That is the funniest thing. During the bull market nothing gets close to bitcoin and yet they talk about flip and they think that bitcoin could ever be not the first place, which is idiotic because it will always be first place if this is the competition. I have never seen any project in the world that was even remotely close to being as good as bitcoin, and I doubt that we will ever see it because of the greed of creators.

However, when the bear comes they realize how wrong they were and stop comparing their projects to bitcoin. You will see, during the next bull run in a couple years, we will see some projects get hyped enough to talk about being bigger than ETH or BTC, which they will never be.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: doomloop on March 11, 2023, 09:04:38 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
Says who that altcoins has no value without BTC? I think altcoins will thrive even Bitcoin fails though I ain't see a thing right now that it will fail. The connection in between is that altcoins mimic Bitcoin to experiment if they are much better than the King of cryptocurrency.

Again, look at crypto market cap of Ethereum, it's just below Bitcoin and  with that market cap, it can survive even if Bitcoin fails.
A lot of people are saying this because this is how they observed alts when BTC drops. It was the price of the alts that only drops but it does not totally mean that altcoins have now no value because value can still be measured in other things. It can be on how useful these altcoins are.

In fact, there are some altcoins who can be able to recover last time while BTC is still in dumped position. They can still get a demand because there are people who are using these alts for certain purposes not just for investing or trading. We saw a drop in Bitcoins value these past days but later this day, it is showing a signs of recovery again. This is great and altcoin supporters will not worry anymore.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Quidat on March 11, 2023, 09:59:15 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
Honestly, if we could really be presuming that they are really that independent or the demand would really be separated then those top altcoins could really go opposite on where
Bitcoin would be heading.It is really just that the confidence where it is really that mainly be affected on which it is really dragging the entire market down whenever bitcoin do have a bearish
movement which it isnt really that something new anymore. This is why it is really called the King or Father of all crypto for nothing.It would really be bringing out that
kind of impression on whatever movement that it would make which would affecting the entire crypto market or space.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: DOH! on March 12, 2023, 12:24:26 PM
Bitcoin took the lead and ushered in the blockchain era. bitcoin has always been at the top but it is altcoins (specifically ETH) that really give a boost to greater readiness and adoption in the crypto space. To my mind bitcoin and altcoins are closely correlated, it makes for diversity. Much of the altcoin's price movement follows bitcoin's trend but not absolute or in some cases vice versa. I think the relationship of bitcoin and altcoin is inseparable in value, bitcoin falling and altcoin falling is normal and it has nothing to do with the meaning of existence or not! I think that's what is unique and interesting about crypto.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: naira on March 12, 2023, 01:50:27 PM
That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
It's simple because in general Bitcoin is the only benchmark where when speculation on the price of Bitcoin drops automatically the price of altcoins will follow because the focus of large investors is Bitcoin and is the only root of the growth and death of altcoins. ETH may be the best altcoin but investors do are still looking to profit by selling altcoins to collect more Bitcoins. Altcoins are exactly what their name suggests, alt which is only an alternative.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Mozzart on March 12, 2023, 04:42:43 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
Every time a price drop comes it always comes after a crisis comes and many projects stop their activities because the project simply does not have enough money for development and investors do not want to sponsor because their assets are also at risk.To some extent, this is even good since the market is cleared after each cycle.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: blockman on March 12, 2023, 07:26:35 PM
You know the answer but just to add some more, it's because most of the market pairs is with bitcoin and that's why the majority of the altcoins are affected. And with such a fall off with some stablecoins, the market had recently put into dumped due to it as it also affects bitcoin. Notice that every time there's news about stablecoins, if it's positive, the price of bitcoin goes up and vice versa. Altcoins will survive but it's not going to be all of them that will have that space for which the market will be turning into some focus on different trends that we experience. So if you're a heavy altcoin investor, you should start considering of allocating funds of yours into bitcoin if you still haven't done it yet.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: o48o on March 12, 2023, 11:46:21 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
If btc would fall it most likely would mean it would be forced out of the markets. And the whole gimmick of crypto is that decentralization makes it resistant to censorship.
Now if BTC would fall, that would mean something has gone wrong and only thing making it strong in the first place somehow failed.

And if that's the case, and decentralization wouldn't work anymore, i can't see any other cryptos surviving, because they would not be needed anymore if they somehow wouldn't fix the problem bitcoin failed in.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Ludmilla_rose1995 on March 13, 2023, 06:57:08 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
there is no altcoin that stands alone in this market, all prices that are formed depend fully on bitcoin, if bitcoin collapses, altcoins also collapse, the reason is that bitcoin is a benchmark of crypto market capitalization and strength. I dare say that alternative coins cannot survive without bitcoin.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: wheelz1200 on March 13, 2023, 09:51:37 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?

Basically because most altcoins are just scams or lazy attempts at building a project.  Most every altcoin is not needed, meaning bitcoin already solves what they are trying to do.  So that is the relationship, altcoins are mostly pump toys in bull markets for people to get more bitcoin and that's it.  It's why altcoin volume usually all but dries up in bear markets because no one actually uses it.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Scripture on March 13, 2023, 09:57:44 PM
If Bitcoin drop doesn’t mean many altcoins will die, they will just follow the trend of Bitcoin and probably will survive the drop as well especially if its a good altcoins.

Looking at the market now, its getting better and Bitcoin is trying to break the resistance level again which I believe Bitcoin will succeed this time. If you are able to buy last week during the correction, I’m sure you have a good profit now so better to take every opportunity on this market to be more profitable.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: royalfestus on March 13, 2023, 10:03:11 PM
I don't think altcoins can survive without btc, so I think the price of btc will continue to affect the price of altcoins.
some examples have been seen when an altcoin is rising, then the btc price suddenly drops, the altcoin will also immediately fall.
Altcoin/bitcoin has undergone a lot of change in the past few years that we must take into account

1. We have more decentralised exchanges with different blockchains where bitcoin can not be traded and they still make large trades

2. That the decline in bitcoin-altcoin has decreased and we have more stable-altcoin and altcoin-altcoin

3. That bitcoin have less than 45% market dominance, less than in previous years and approaching halving.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: abel1337 on March 13, 2023, 10:12:29 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
If BTC falls, I'm speculating that most altcoins will be dragged along with BTC. This happened couple of times before and today we can see how other altcoins are connected with bitcoin price pump, Bitcoin price pumps today and I believe that the majority of altcoins where on green on the last 24 hours because of bitcoin price moving upwards. I'm talking towards the top 200 altcoins in the market don't get me wrong. Those sh*tcoins are not affected that much.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: milewilda on March 13, 2023, 10:28:00 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
If BTC falls, I'm speculating that most altcoins will be dragged along with BTC. This happened couple of times before and today we can see how other altcoins are connected with bitcoin price pump, Bitcoin price pumps today and I believe that the majority of altcoins where on green on the last 24 hours because of bitcoin price moving upwards. I'm talking towards the top 200 altcoins in the market don't get me wrong. Those sh*tcoins are not affected that much.
Not shocking and not something new, whenever bitcoin does plummets when it comes to its price then altcoin will follow.Only a few of those coins would really be going to the opposite side
but on general case where it is really a trend setter and if it falls then everything falls.Not shocking for the origin of cryptocurrency which is Bitcoin, it is really normal that the
market would really be having that kind of reaction as it is in line with Bitcoins price or condition. If there's too much Fud then expect on what would happen.
Its not something new and something you should deal with when you are dealing with this market.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: lobo13hf on March 13, 2023, 11:10:41 PM
of course we don't know for sure but bitcoin is like trendsetter, after all it's the first cryptocurrency ever so it's only normal if the altcoins in general still considers it as the bane of cryptocurrency basically if it got any movements other coin will also follow, if it falls then the other falls, it's not going to happen the other way unless there's coin with dominance equally as big.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: GreatArkansas on March 14, 2023, 02:55:36 AM
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That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
Just treat Bitcoin as KING, simple. That's why they called altcoins because they are "alternative" coins for Bitcoin. Bitcoin is original, Bitcoin is only one.
So for me, without Bitcoin, the entire cryptocurrency will collapse too even how the altcoin project quality is. Just take an example of Bitcoin dominance, it is around 43% which is really near 50%, that's a huge gap versus combined all altcoins.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: bitterguy28 on March 14, 2023, 03:47:23 AM
of course we don't know for sure but bitcoin is like trendsetter, after all it's the first cryptocurrency ever so it's only normal if the altcoins in general still considers it as the bane of cryptocurrency basically if it got any movements other coin will also follow, if it falls then the other falls, it's not going to happen the other way unless there's coin with dominance equally as big.
actually there are articles and claims that it isn't bitcoin the first cryptocurrency instead it is Ecash
Quote
What Was the First Cryptocurrency?
There were cryptocurrencies before Bitcoin

By NATHAN REIFF Updated July 23, 2022
Reviewed by ERIKA RASURE
Fact checked by SUZANNE KVILHAUG
Cryptocurrencies existed before Bitcoin, but they didn't reach public attention until a few years after it was introduced in 2009. The first cryptocurrency was eCash, developed by the company DigiCash in 1990. The concept and company were created by cryptographer David Chaum, who in 1983 published a paper titled "Blind Signatures for Untraceable Payments."
1

Several other attempts ultimately led up to Bitcoin's creation, but it took more than 20 years to evolve into the popular cryptocurrency it is today.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
The first cryptocurrency was eCash, created by David Chaum's company DigiCash in 1990.
There were several attempts to create a viable and accepted cryptocurrency before Bitcoin.
eCash, B-money, Bit Gold, and Hashcash were very influential in Bitcoin's creation.
What Is Cryptocurrency?

eCash—The First Cryptocurrency
In 1983, American cryptographer David Chaum proposed a form of electronic cash. He conceptualized a token currency that could be transferred between individuals safely and privately; the similarities to modern-day cryptocurrencies are striking.

this is the link:

https://www.investopedia.com/tech/were-there-cryptocurrencies-bitcoin/


though I support your call about bitcoin being the trendsetter and that is why altcoins follows about the movement of bitcoin so yes we will see what it comes in the next coming days.

good to see bitcoin staying strong today since yesterday.



Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: peter0425 on March 14, 2023, 07:55:54 AM


That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
Imagine a market without a big competition? imagine a business that losses the pioneer one? do you think that it will survive?
bitcoin makes this market move mate either to increase or decrease but it is this coin that maintain its health.

investors are putting their money here because of bitcoin so admit it or not? but crypto market will die if bitcoin fails in future.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: GEMIN_M4 on March 14, 2023, 10:23:23 AM
The reason why it looked like many altcoins can't stand on their own without the help of Bitcoin is because of the rank, market cap and volume and the activities of the whales, most whales around the world have more bags of Bitcoin than altcoins and in every bull market, they move funds out of Bitcoin to pump altcoins,  whales will always be a major player in crypto space.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: royalfestus on March 14, 2023, 12:54:28 PM
My second opinion is that everything that is going on now with stable coins and altcoins could increase Bitcoin's dominance in marketcap, which in turn might improve trust as well as investment. We are experiencing everything at a good time before the sentiment in the market builds and attracts new investors and restores some old ones. The last cycle was hell for some and some lost a lot of money.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: raidarksword on March 14, 2023, 01:05:57 PM
Everytime bitcoin is down, altcoins are down as well because the market is dependents of bitcoin's price movements that's why it's normal to observe the altcoin's movements everytime bitcoin is taking a downtrend. We have seen many times occurrences but market recovers quick now unlike before. Despite all that sentiments, some altcoins will have it's strong resistance and continue to hold their price uptrend momentum.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: MiF on March 19, 2023, 04:09:28 AM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
Without btc altcoins will maybe fall or worst it will fall into zero value. I also saw the altcoins will always fall when bitcoin fall i think it is because the altcoin investors will not invest when the btc price is down because they can only buy a few amount of coin with a big amount of btc, they will surely hold the btc instead of buying the coins the second reason is that they are afraid that the new project s or altcoin that they wanted to invest may become failed and they will end up lossing.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: litepool.ru on March 19, 2023, 06:25:45 AM
It is not entirely true that I see that BTC represents the development of the Blockchain from the beginning, so its appearance is a testament to the development process later.
Describe it as the process of growing a tree, when you plant a seed waiting to germinate, and here btc that seed, after time the tree grows to have branches, leaf, flowers, and fruits. And those who come later only look at things like the fruit, flowers, branches, leaf of that tree, but if they ignore the original seed, they won't see anything.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Digital_Lord on March 20, 2023, 03:06:03 PM
Actually the demand for BTC is high and people have so many hopes for its success so therefore they rushes towards investment in BTC while other altcoins can also give benefits but their surety is not confirmed. Market is highly regarded as based on BTC price where it decreases altcoins price also decreases and if an information related to conduction spread out so they also have some impact on the value. Altcoins are worthy and they can be a cause of pleasure for the buyer but we don't believe that if BTC dump then it will survive without any risk.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: jossiel on March 20, 2023, 04:15:35 PM
It is not entirely true that I see that BTC represents the development of the Blockchain from the beginning, so its appearance is a testament to the development process later.
But there's the truth with it that if it's not about bitcoin, the introduction to the blockchain technology was much faster and easier. But it is more with the altcoin projects that this technology have been spread and became more popular.

Describe it as the process of growing a tree, when you plant a seed waiting to germinate, and here btc that seed, after time the tree grows to have branches, leaf, flowers, and fruits. And those who come later only look at things like the fruit, flowers, branches, leaf of that tree, but if they ignore the original seed, they won't see anything.
That's why no matter what people are telling about how an altcoin project is good, everyone will agree that bitcoin shall remain and it's the investment that everyone is longing for because it can't just be ignored by anyone.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: awik p on March 21, 2023, 07:04:36 AM
This is due to psychological factors and investor confidence. when bitcoin goes up, altcoins will also go up, and vice versa, bitcoin becomes a parameter for the development of altcoins, it seems to be a natural formula in the crypto world. don't we often meet people when talking about cryptocurrencies, then their imagination is bitcoin. especially now that bitcoin has a market capitalization that dominates cryptocurrency


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: btc78 on March 21, 2023, 07:25:51 AM


That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
Completely wrong , you can assume that way back at least 5 or 7 years ago mate when altcoin seemingly following Bitcoin all time.
but nowadays? as Ethereum grows high and many altcoin has their stands also? then we are not sure if altcoins(at least some of them) will all die if bitcoin falls flat.
but for me? there will be altcoin that stands against all and will manage to continue the legacy of cryptocurrency once bitcoin turns out.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: someone703 on March 21, 2023, 11:38:52 AM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
In fact, if you learn this problem from the most basic things from this market, you will visualize it more easily. You know how the crypto market started, it's not natural that we see thousands of cryptos in the current market.
And btc represents the beginning of the world, or in other words blockchain 1.0. Over time users encountered some network scaling problems, and then developers appeared to see a great opportunity from the field to build up a market of many different sectors. And the bottom line is that now you can buy any crypto you want, but you won't be a market in which there are many institutional investors, speculators, etc. The relationship between BTC/alt is stronger, and when many people see that the btc halving event is the source of market growth, they return to invest in btc, and then invest in alt to strengthen more. listings in the market.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: ElmedoRator on March 22, 2023, 07:14:28 AM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
The answer to this is many reasons but I think the crypto market is as valuable as it is today thanks to BTC, because BTC started the blockchain 1.0 phase.
Over time we see more and more projects exploiting the benefits and drawbacks of BTC, but they are unable to dislodge BTC from the market. And this relationship is even more evident in recent years when the source of money entering the market is always pushing BTC up and then Altcoins.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 22, 2023, 10:40:23 AM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
If bitcoin falls, altcoins will also fall. I don't know if any altcoin can survive if bitcoin falls hard because it will affect market conditions. The crypto market will panic and people will try to save their money by selling their assets as soon as possible before things worsen. The top position in the crypto market is held by bitcoin so if bitcoin falls, it will affect it. And we don't know if there is an altcoin that can replace bitcoin to be at the top or if all crypto projects will disappear. We can only hope that it will not happen in the future.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: fullhdpixel on March 22, 2023, 09:18:21 PM
If bitcoin falls, altcoins will also fall. I don't know if any altcoin can survive if bitcoin falls hard because it will affect market conditions. The crypto market will panic and people will try to save their money by selling their assets as soon as possible before things worsen. The top position in the crypto market is held by bitcoin so if bitcoin falls, it will affect it. And we don't know if there is an altcoin that can replace bitcoin to be at the top or if all crypto projects will disappear. We can only hope that it will not happen in the future.
I think the only altcoin that will survive are the strongest ones and they can be ETH and BNB but the rest of them can go along with BTC because they have a weak fundamentals. Bitcoin can fall but not into a greater extent so I don't think people will panic.

If ever there are, they are only the starters but they will regret it eventually and will try to re-buy what they have sold. Selling to save an asset might be a good idea to do if we are talking about coins with shady reputation. Some stable coins can also depeg but it happens even if BTC is not collapsing so people must also take caution with it or better if they don't put much money on them.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 23, 2023, 02:06:34 AM
If bitcoin falls, altcoins will also fall. I don't know if any altcoin can survive if bitcoin falls hard because it will affect market conditions. The crypto market will panic and people will try to save their money by selling their assets as soon as possible before things worsen. The top position in the crypto market is held by bitcoin so if bitcoin falls, it will affect it. And we don't know if there is an altcoin that can replace bitcoin to be at the top or if all crypto projects will disappear. We can only hope that it will not happen in the future.
I think the only altcoin that will survive are the strongest ones and they can be ETH and BNB but the rest of them can go along with BTC because they have a weak fundamentals. Bitcoin can fall but not into a greater extent so I don't think people will panic.

If ever there are, they are only the starters but they will regret it eventually and will try to re-buy what they have sold. Selling to save an asset might be a good idea to do if we are talking about coins with shady reputation. Some stable coins can also depeg but it happens even if BTC is not collapsing so people must also take caution with it or better if they don't put much money on them.
I also think so because ETH and BNB are still strong and can increase higher than before. But the current condition may be more severe than in previous years or still not so severe.

Selling to save assets when the market goes down is not a good way out because we still lose. It would be better for us to try to survive the down market because we will get the chance to see the market recover. And when the market recovers, the prices of these strong altcoins can start to increase. But those are for really strong altcoins.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: killerfrost on March 27, 2023, 11:35:06 AM
Yes, Bitcoin altcoins have a deep relationship with each other. BTC is considered the first cryptocurrency, and as such it has become the standard for the entire crypto market. When the price of BTC rises, the price of altcoins usually goes up as well. Similarly, when the price of BTC falls, the price of altcoins also falls. However, altcoins are not entirely dependent on BTC. Altcoins can exist and have their own value without BTC. For example, Ethereum (ETH) is one of the most popular altcoins and has a large market cap, and it does not depend entirely on the price of BTC. However, there is still a strong relationship between BTC and altcoins, and the price of altcoins is often influenced by the price of BTC. But the problem is here as I see this market, the skeptics and supporters always appear at the same time and it creates a volatile price environment, so overall this market is still too small. and great opportunity for those who know early.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Boomber on March 29, 2023, 05:36:07 AM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?

In my opinion, altcoin will not survive if Bitcoin is destroyed, because Bitcoin is the king of cryptocurrency, so whatever happens in cryptocurrncy depends on Bitcoin, therefore if the price of Bitcoin increase, then the price of altcoin will also increase and if the price of Bitcoin decrease, then the price of Bitcoin will also decrease, because the main pioneer of cryptocurrency is Bitcoin.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Reatim on March 29, 2023, 06:43:27 AM


That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
what do you mean by "Falls Flat"? bitcoin? then what would be the future of this market if bitcoin already showed that low? sad that you are still having hopes in altcoin while you are projecting bitcoin to be falling flat.
bitcoin and atcoins are together to move, if bitcoin dies then altcoin will die as well.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Silberman on March 29, 2023, 05:27:46 PM


That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
what do you mean by "Falls Flat"? bitcoin? then what would be the future of this market if bitcoin already showed that low? sad that you are still having hopes in altcoin while you are projecting bitcoin to be falling flat.
bitcoin and atcoins are together to move, if bitcoin dies then altcoin will die as well.

I suppose that what he means by that is what will happen to this market if bitcoin reaches a value of zero and disappear? And the answer to that is easy, the majority of the altcoins will disappear as well as they are based on the technology of bitcoin, and such a huge crash can only be the result of some kind of fatal technical flaw that is impossible to fix, which means that altcoins will not survive either, still the chances of such a scenario happening are very low.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: stormterror on March 29, 2023, 09:01:09 PM
Aways, but the question should be, which altcoins will die in the next bear market? hard to know


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: kawetsriyanto on March 29, 2023, 09:43:47 PM
That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
You must know that Bitcoin is like the mother of all crypto coins. Every crypto coin has been paired with Bitcoin in crypto market (exchanges). You can imagine what will happen with all crypto coins if Bitcoin suddenly disappears!! It must bring a very big impact on the whole crypto market. But to claim all crypto coins to die if there is no Bitcoin seems not really correct. There should be a chance for altcoins to survive although they may lose big values due to the lack of trust from all crypto investors if Bitcoin falls.



Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: rhodelmabanal on March 30, 2023, 12:14:55 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
if the bitcoin fall maybe altcoins will also fall not an instant fall but i believe that it will also fall slowly, without bitcoin crypto market is nothing, look at the past or the history of btc when it is in bear market, almost all new and old altcoins are affected most of them follow btc when it fall no altcoins rise during bear market how much more when there is no bitcoin.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: SyndicateLabs on March 30, 2023, 12:22:35 PM
That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
Because what I've seen from this market unfold is completely different from what you're seeing. Today we can clearly see the relationship of bitcoin and altcoins, the dependence on Bitcoin because Bitcoin is the first digital currency and has the largest share in the digital currency market. The influence of Bitcoin on altcoins is generally quite large, so every time Bitcoin rises or falls in price, altcoins will also affect it. Altcoins compete with Bitcoin in attracting investors and increasing value. Many altcoins try to improve and develop new features than Bitcoin in order to attract investors.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on March 30, 2023, 05:16:41 PM
That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
Because what I've seen from this market unfold is completely different from what you're seeing. Today we can clearly see the relationship of bitcoin and altcoins, the dependence on Bitcoin because Bitcoin is the first digital currency and has the largest share in the digital currency market. The influence of Bitcoin on altcoins is generally quite large, so every time Bitcoin rises or falls in price, altcoins will also affect it. Altcoins compete with Bitcoin in attracting investors and increasing value. Many altcoins try to improve and develop new features than Bitcoin in order to attract investors.
Investors know very well that bitcoin price movements greatly affect altcoin price movements, so they will definitely do the same thing when bitcoin experiences a downtrend, so altcoins will also feel the same way. Conversely, when they see a reversal of the bitcoin downtrend, they will use altcoins as an option other than bitcoin.
When bitcoin is in a bear market, we should not be surprised to see that altcoins do not survive because indeed bitcoin is the mother (so to speak) of all altcoins.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: bitkanu on March 30, 2023, 10:35:59 PM
considering the fact that many big management funds are always prioritising btc, once bitcoin reached all time low they'd instantly convert their altcoin investment into btc in which triggers individuals to also do the same since the value of the altcoin more likely decreasing overtime. I'd say bitcoin is the center of it all and will always have great influence towards the general coins in existence.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: ichsan ardi on April 01, 2023, 08:03:08 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?

altcoins really survive without BTC I don't think so because one of the factors altcoins can go up it could be BTC why is BTC so important for altcoins? because BTC is the king of cryptocurrency I can't imagine if BTC is destroyed what will happen to altcoins.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Cryptomiles1 on April 01, 2023, 10:47:19 PM
Well i don't know if others have already answered this but I termed it to be the first digital currency that was launched before any other altcoin and it has the ability to control the market and every other altcoin follows its direction.
So, its hard to see that they are being detached from bitcoin price movement to go against the originator, otherwise, in some cases most altcoin go against the price which in cmc you would found out we have the gainers and losers' coin, the loser's go against bitcoin price while the gainer's act directly with bitcoin price, so in other words we can say the falling of bitcoin price is the rising of those altcoin price.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: TheGreatPython on April 02, 2023, 06:16:45 PM
Aways, but the question should be, which altcoins will die in the next bear market? hard to know
Well, it's not that hard to know, all you need to do is take a project and evaluate it from top to bottom, start from their website, read the whitepaper, check their docs and resources, their social engagement rates, the interactions of the public with them or about them, and the influence and interest of other big names or projects if there is any.

Once you are done with that, you will pretty clearly see if the project has got any potential or if it is just empty from the inside and is only here for a short while. Now do that with every project that you want to know if will exist in the future or not.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: yhiaali3 on April 02, 2023, 06:54:14 PM
In my opinion, Altcoin will not survive without the presence of Bitcoin. In addition to the fact that Bitcoin is the mother coin of all cryptocurrencies, there are other factors in the market that make Bitcoin the number one influencer in the market.

The first factor is trust, without bitcoin there is no trust in the market, investors do not have confidence in altcoin yet.
The other important factor is the dominance of Bitcoin in the market, which automatically makes all altcoins linked to it.

This means that if bitcoin falls, all altcoins will fall with it.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: uneng on April 02, 2023, 08:26:11 PM
In my opinion, Altcoin will not survive without the presence of Bitcoin. In addition to the fact that Bitcoin is the mother coin of all cryptocurrencies, there are other factors in the market that make Bitcoin the number one influencer in the market.

The first factor is trust, without bitcoin there is no trust in the market, investors do not have confidence in altcoin yet.
The other important factor is the dominance of Bitcoin in the market, which automatically makes all altcoins linked to it.

This means that if bitcoin falls, all altcoins will fall with it.
That is totally correct. Without Bitcoin, the whole crypto market goes down, as we have been constantly seeing along the years. The market in general only enters a positive trend once bitcoin gives the start upside. Even Ethereum, the top 2 cryptocurrency can't survive without bitcoin. Always bitcoin loses demand and crashes, ETH follows BTC, also going down, sometimes losing even more value than BTC in percentage.

Some enthusiasts believe this will change someday once an altcoin rises as potential competitor to bitcoin for market's dominance, but in my opinion that is not going to happen on the next decade, at least.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: carlfebz2 on April 02, 2023, 08:33:09 PM
In my opinion, Altcoin will not survive without the presence of Bitcoin. In addition to the fact that Bitcoin is the mother coin of all cryptocurrencies, there are other factors in the market that make Bitcoin the number one influencer in the market.

The first factor is trust, without bitcoin there is no trust in the market, investors do not have confidence in altcoin yet.
The other important factor is the dominance of Bitcoin in the market, which automatically makes all altcoins linked to it.

This means that if bitcoin falls, all altcoins will fall with it.
That is totally correct. Without Bitcoin, the whole crypto market goes down, as we have been constantly seeing along the years. The market in general only enters a positive trend once bitcoin gives the start upside. Even Ethereum, the top 2 cryptocurrency can't survive without bitcoin. Always bitcoin loses demand and crashes, ETH follows BTC, also going down, sometimes losing even more value than BTC in percentage.

Some enthusiasts believe this will change someday once an altcoin rises as potential competitor to bitcoin for market's dominance, but in my opinion that is not going to happen on the next decade, at least.
If the King or Father of all crypto goes down then it would be no brainer that the entire crypto space would be shook down and would really be losing up their confidence whether it would proceed on or would totally

crumble, considering that the main coin on which the community been supporting had already go its price to the floor which means that there's something huge happening in the market and it would definitely
giving out huge significant on altcoins as well considering that the main trend setter is BTC.Although with those project owners they would definitely be trying their best on boosting up their marketing
and exposure because for sure they would really be trying out to claim that top spot.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: bitterguy28 on April 03, 2023, 02:14:08 AM
This is due to psychological factors and investor confidence. when bitcoin goes up, altcoins will also go up, and vice versa, bitcoin becomes a parameter for the development of altcoins, it seems to be a natural formula in the crypto world. don't we often meet people when talking about cryptocurrencies, then their imagination is bitcoin. especially now that bitcoin has a market capitalization that dominates cryptocurrency
maybe in the past but what I am seeing now that we have that so called "Altcoin Season" in which sometimes happened even without the spike of bitcoin ,

 though this mostly happen after Bitcoin season yet this proves one thing that altcoin has their own supporters now and trusty.

maybe we cannot say what will truly happen in the coming years(once this happened) but what I am sure of?

bitcoin will never have this fall mate , or else we will be no longer here after that time.


Well i don't know if others have already answered this but I termed it to be the first digital currency that was launched before any other altcoin and it has the ability to control the market and every other altcoin follows its direction.
So, its hard to see that they are being detached from bitcoin price movement to go against the originator, otherwise, in some cases most altcoin go against the price which in cmc you would found out we have the gainers and losers' coin, the loser's go against bitcoin price while the gainer's act directly with bitcoin price, so in other words we can say the falling of bitcoin price is the rising of those altcoin price.
being said above and seems to be not the first crypto to be created and proposed to be used but the very first successful  .


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Adbitco on April 03, 2023, 09:16:30 AM
It's true bitcoin is the mover of all altcoin i strong believe if there is no bitcoin then there will be no altcoin as well.
But in totally there were some altcoin that act awkwardly to bitcoin price which is somehow confusing, as bitcoin soar they decrease whenever bitcoin act awkwardly they soar. But sometimes i kept wondering actually they may survived if bitcoin fails, although they may not be for 48hrs all altcoin would fail as well.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Woodie on April 03, 2023, 10:51:43 AM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own.
Not entirely  true because if we bring in altcoins such as utiliy or stablecoins which dont rely on bitcoins performance we can see that  these can hold value as they are pegged on other assets performance like gold or fiat currencies.

I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise. 
This usually happens for coins without strong communities,  had this been the case altcoins would be moving proportional to btc movement's but this Is far from reality as other factors affect the price of an altcoin such as token burns, pumps etc

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
Sometimes we see some altcoins behave this way because they are paired this way on some exchanges  and  for strong and popular alts cheaper coins means buying opportunity for investors which is why coins pump even when btc is in red.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: imamb on April 03, 2023, 02:31:05 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?

In my opinion, altcoin will not survive if Bitcoin is destroyed, because Bitcoin is the king of cryptocurrency, so whatever happens in cryptocurrncy depends on Bitcoin, therefore if the price of Bitcoin increase, then the price of altcoin will also increase and if the price of Bitcoin decrease, then the price of Bitcoin will also decrease, because the main pioneer of cryptocurrency is Bitcoin.
the main crypto investment center is BITCOIN friends. already trusted 100% by people who understand. if only BITCOIN crashed down dramatically, 95% of altcoins that died because they lost their large volume. but there are still altcoins that iinvestors trust with clear objectives of the coin project


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: el kaka22 on April 03, 2023, 08:12:33 PM
I would guess that as long as bitcoin survives, all the coins around it will survive, maybe they will change, one would go and another would come, but crypto as a space will be safe and nothing will happen. I have to say that there is nothing wrong with buying bitcoin if you are not entirely certain about the altcoin world, obviously it is not going to be as profitable as finding a good token and making 100x with it, that rarely happens and you would never have that.

But, the feeling of security knowing that you invested into the greatest asset humanity has ever created is enough, you do not need to risk anything more than that and just be happy about that is enough.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Quidat on April 03, 2023, 08:28:23 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
We arent that blind on not to see if we do speak about dominance on the entire market which we do know that it isnt something that we could just simply ignore. BTC is the king of crypto coins
and if ever it do make out some bearish movement then we do see that altcoins do follow but we know that there's such thing been called as altcoins season on which this time where
alts do make out some bullish runs and increase out despite of BItcoins price movement is stagnant or really going down but most of the time it is really been
dragged off on where it would be heading.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: RussianEnglishTranslation on May 09, 2023, 06:53:24 AM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
I couldn't understand your English but I can tell you that alts have much more upside than BTC. BTC is obsolete and has no smart contract functionality. The best way to make money in crypto is to invest in new projects before they are listed on large exchanges and price trackers. Projects like 0xMR, SimpAI, Shardeum, Q Blockchain, zkSync...


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Similificator on May 09, 2023, 10:38:05 AM
That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?

The way I see it, altcoins dying off without bitcoin is a reasonable assumption. This is because Bitcoin is the harbinger of the cryptocurrency era. When people talk about crypto currencies the first thing that comes to the minds of the majority is Bitcoin. Not to mention the fact that most of the whales in this industry are invested more on bitcoin rather than other coins/altcoins. But this fact also makes the thought of Bitcoin dying out quite an impossible assumption. Although if it does happen in the future, despite suffering for quite some time, I believe that another coin will replace bitcoin. Why? Because people have already had a taste of this industry and will surely long for it one way or another due to the profits and utilities that we, or the future crypto enthusiasts have already gotten accustomed to.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: riskarcher on May 10, 2023, 04:00:28 PM
That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?

The way I see it, altcoins dying off without bitcoin is a reasonable assumption. This is because Bitcoin is the harbinger of the cryptocurrency era. When people talk about crypto currencies the first thing that comes to the minds of the majority is Bitcoin. Not to mention the fact that most of the whales in this industry are invested more on bitcoin rather than other coins/altcoins. But this fact also makes the thought of Bitcoin dying out quite an impossible assumption. Although if it does happen in the future, despite suffering for quite some time, I believe that another coin will replace bitcoin. Why? Because people have already had a taste of this industry and will surely long for it one way or another due to the profits and utilities that we, or the future crypto enthusiasts have already gotten accustomed to.
The crypto industry is unique and unpredictable, how can a coin without utility and clear fundamentals become the number 1 coin like bitcoin?
This is an interesting case because bitcoin is the core of altcoins and the top chain of the coin itself, many countries in the government buy this coin because it has political factors and great influence among crypto enthusiasts. Especially whales and globalists who want to change centralize into decentralize


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on May 10, 2023, 06:41:22 PM


That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?

Actually Bitcoin is the first coin and btc has more than 40% dominance of the whole crypto market. whenever btc price drops , it means people are getting out of the crypto market which cause other altcoins dump. Altcoins will down more than btc because Altcoins buyers are mostly new users or big whale who are not long term holder while Most of btc holder are for long term.

Altcoins can survive without btc in one situation, when btc dominance down more than 15% then altcoins will almost free from btc and we will not see any big change in alt price with btc price change. Sometimes we seeing that some Altcoins pumped hard with btc dump like memecoins and fan coins.



I couldn't understand your English but I can tell you that alts have much more upside than BTC. BTC is obsolete and has no smart contract functionality. The best way to make money in crypto is to invest in new projects before they are listed on large exchanges and price trackers. Projects like 0xMR, SimpAI, Shardeum, Q Blockchain, zkSync...

New projects are risky and you don't know whether they will be listed in any big exchange or not. The project can fail at the initial stage so i will not recommend investing in any new project. Btc is best coin to invest in if you want secure investment while investing in big Altcoins are also right but new projects are not free from high risk


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: |MINER| on May 10, 2023, 07:47:45 PM
That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
In fact, one's opinion can be different here, but in my case, my personal opinion will be that Bitcoin's alternative coins are altcoins, since it is used as an alternative to Bitcoin, so it is most likely that they will not exist where there is no Bitcoin. If we see that due to the bear market when the price of Bitcoin suddenly fell too low, many altcoin projects could not survive and they had to disappear from the market. So I tink altcoins cann't survive without bitcoin.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: rojan on May 11, 2023, 01:04:39 PM
That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
In fact, one's opinion can be different here, but in my case, my personal opinion will be that Bitcoin's alternative coins are altcoins, since it is used as an alternative to Bitcoin, so it is most likely that they will not exist where there is no Bitcoin. If we see that due to the bear market when the price of Bitcoin suddenly fell too low, many altcoin projects could not survive and they had to disappear from the market. So I tink altcoins cann't survive without bitcoin.
I would also like to agreeing with you and like others I will also say that if Bitcoin ever failed or crashes it will be impossible to sustain the altcoin market. Alt-coin market are fully depend on bitcoin position if you saw that whenever we talk about bearish and bull run, we never talk about altcoin,  always the analysis based with bitcoin, I will say that bitcoin is like the mother of the crypto world, and altcoins are its children, so the sustainment of altcoins without a mother will become impossible.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: dansus021 on May 13, 2023, 08:32:00 AM
Some will survive and some dont you can look at the coingecko or coinmarketcap website the dying altcoin is everywhere especially for project who not ready yet or don't have purposes and the downturn is crazy scary it can more than 100% from their ATH and and don't comeback.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: cosmococo on May 14, 2023, 12:08:23 PM
There are plenty of altcoins that continue to run in the face of Bitcoin dumping. And this happens more and more frequently.

Most alt-coin projects have zero dependency on Bitcoin to function and provide value regardless if Bitcoin exists.

Blockchain gaming is the next Web3 revolution. Regardless what happens to Bitcoin, nothing will stop that.



Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: v3liana on May 22, 2023, 06:21:14 AM
Alts cannot survive if btc falls.
But In my opinion, Bitcoin couldn't previously go lower than $15k this bear market because the buying pressure was too strong, that it will most likely never go lower, unless something REALLY BAD happens.
This focus on finance will be the least of our worries.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: icalical on May 29, 2023, 11:41:49 AM
Some of big altcoin project like Ethereum and BNB is not so dependent to Bitcoin like they used to, so I think some of the altcoin that actually have a decent project will survive. It's not the first time bitcoin is falling, and we already seen from the experience how the bitcoin falling is actually a good filter for altcoin that actually has good fundamental and vision.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Aliem Nur on May 29, 2023, 05:48:01 PM
it all depends on the altcoin itself, because altcoins have fundamentals,
if the fundamentals of the project are good then the price of the altcoin will rebound,
this has been proven in many altcoins with good fundamentals such as Ethereum, Conflux and Sonm.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: TheSpiral on May 29, 2023, 06:14:46 PM
Bitcoin is backbone of all crypto and every token has direct relationship with price of btc. as long as BTC will remain stable we will se improvement in the price of Altcoins but for any reason if btc falls flat, the Altcoins will start dumping with high rate. There are only some coins which are undependable with btc such as gold back up coins or other assets coins which are backed up with real assets.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Natalim on May 29, 2023, 09:14:12 PM
Some will survive and some dont you can look at the coingecko or coinmarketcap website the dying altcoin is everywhere especially for project who not ready yet or don't have purposes and the downturn is crazy scary it can more than 100% from their ATH and and don't comeback.
With these thousand of crap projects, we can't expect them to survive but a huge possibility that they will die.
Only those projects that play an important role in the market will survive and the others are just what we called, passing projects - they come in a short period of time and then just vanish. That is why we should have to take caution on the projects that we hold because not all of the cryptocurrencies that exist will ever grow.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Desscount on May 30, 2023, 03:58:08 PM
Bitcoin is backbone of all crypto and every token has direct relationship with price of btc. as long as BTC will remain stable we will se improvement in the price of Altcoins but for any reason if btc falls flat, the Altcoins will start dumping with high rate. There are only some coins which are undependable with btc such as gold back up coins or other assets coins which are backed up with real assets.
that's why if we want to buy altcoins, make sure we also analyze Bitcoin first, because if it dumps, the altcoins will also be dumped,
and that's an opportunity for us to buy altcoins at cheap prices like now, because the price of Bitcoin has actually fallen by -60% altcoins were also hit,
but it was a good opportunity to buy before the bullrun.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Unbunplease on May 30, 2023, 05:11:08 PM
At the moment, bitcoin is the most promoted of the cryptocurrencies. Most people only know bitcoin. However, the more people come into the cryptocurrency world, the more they learn about altcoins. The information that someone invested $50 in some altcoin and earned, for example, $1,000 also plays a significant role here. As a result, more and more attention is being paid to altcoins.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Psynthax on May 30, 2023, 11:00:28 PM
At the moment, bitcoin is the most promoted of the cryptocurrencies. Most people only know bitcoin. However, the more people come into the cryptocurrency world, the more they learn about altcoins. The information that someone invested $50 in some altcoin and earned, for example, $1,000 also plays a significant role here. As a result, more and more attention is being paid to altcoins.
that's only if things goes well, there are so many altcoins out there that selecting may be hard, so there is also chance of losing even higher than earning, but it can't be denied that altcoin investment sometime are just too good to be missed out honestly.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on May 30, 2023, 11:55:13 PM
Even though if the price of bitcoin will worth a few dollars again and it will not change the fact that if some altcoins will still worth for money but it may be only a few cents. That reminds me with the situation in 2014 when altcoins meant nothing at that time.

Anything was worth small amounts of money compared to this time. Glad to see that bitcoin was able climbing up even higher.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: dansus021 on May 31, 2023, 12:40:48 AM
With these thousand of crap projects, we can't expect them to survive but a huge possibility that they will die.
Only those projects that play an important role in the market will survive and the others are just what we called, passing projects - they come in a short period of time and then just vanish. That is why we should have to take caution on the projects that we hold because not all of the cryptocurrencies that exist will ever grow.

Yeah I also feel it to with those tons of crap projects. Back in 2021 when the bitcoin want to reach its new All time high there is dozen of projects who seeking VC for funding. also there is ICO/IEO/IDO whatever you call it pop up and say it will give return thousand percentage and I would say some of it true but some of it is bullshit. it took me couple of thousand $ and all the project now is puff dead.

what staying is the experience not to all in in those shitty project again


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: doomloop on June 05, 2023, 09:11:23 AM
At the moment, bitcoin is the most promoted of the cryptocurrencies. Most people only know bitcoin. However, the more people come into the cryptocurrency world, the more they learn about altcoins. The information that someone invested $50 in some altcoin and earned, for example, $1,000 also plays a significant role here. As a result, more and more attention is being paid to altcoins.
Bitcoin might be the most promoted or believed cryptocurrency but those who know about Bitcoin also know about altcoins, so that doesn't actually make them vulnerable to crashes. When Bitcoin's price drops, altcoins drop as well, why? Because people panic that they will crash badly and they start selling all their assets so that they don't need to face a lot of losses.

Altcoins are weak, and that is because people have more belief in Bitcoin and that is because Bitcoin has proved it in the past, whenever its price drops significantly, it eventually recovers, but when that happens to an altcoin, they hardly manage to gain any value back.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: kevindjunaidi on June 05, 2023, 11:06:26 AM
Even though if the price of bitcoin will worth a few dollars again and it will not change the fact that if some altcoins will still worth for money but it may be only a few cents. That reminds me with the situation in 2014 when altcoins meant nothing at that time.

Anything was worth small amounts of money compared to this time. Glad to see that bitcoin was able climbing up even higher.

but not all altcoin will survive and only a good altcoin will survive in that situation, therefore it is indeed the safest to invest in Bitcoin for long term investment, but if you really want to invest in altcoin, then it is better 20-30% of our total portfolio is invested in altcoin and 70-80% in Bitcoin, because investing in altcoin is riskier than investing in Bitcoin.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: BitcoinBabbler on June 06, 2023, 05:21:21 PM
Even though if the price of bitcoin will worth a few dollars again and it will not change the fact that if some altcoins will still worth for money but it may be only a few cents. That reminds me with the situation in 2014 when altcoins meant nothing at that time.

Anything was worth small amounts of money compared to this time. Glad to see that bitcoin was able climbing up even higher.

but not all altcoin will survive and only a good altcoin will survive in that situation, therefore it is indeed the safest to invest in Bitcoin for long term investment, but if you really want to invest in altcoin, then it is better 20-30% of our total portfolio is invested in altcoin and 70-80% in Bitcoin, because investing in altcoin is riskier than investing in Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is the backborn of all crypto and token as direct relationship with price of btc and its standard value of alt-coin prices we seen improvement and for any gold coins and Altcoins will start dumping with high rate. There are only some coins which are undependable with btc such as gold back up coins or other assets coins.  


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: ahoenk on June 06, 2023, 06:20:26 PM
Some will be death forever, some other altcoin will suffer pretty bad but it eventualy will survive again. It happen many times during crypto winter. And dont forget, crypto winter is still be here untill 2024, buckle up and enjoy the ride. What comes up must goes down viceversa


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Doan9269 on June 09, 2023, 02:32:18 PM
That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?

If fiat currency falls, nothing will happen to cryptocurrencies, if bitcoin falls, altcoins will suffer great injuries, some will die along because bthey may never have such opportunity to rise again, also if bitcoin should fall down completely, expect altcoins to have been in extinction, but i believe bitcoin will not die if if could sustain the rigorous experience over the fourteenth years of it existance, it has come to stay.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Iyeman on June 09, 2023, 03:19:46 PM
Some will be death forever, some other altcoin will suffer pretty bad but it eventualy will survive again. It happen many times during crypto winter. And dont forget, crypto winter is still be here untill 2024, buckle up and enjoy the ride. What comes up must goes down viceversa
Only altcoins that has been made as a scam coin that will be dead. Some bad coins still able to survive but it will be dumped so hard. People must aware if altcoins will able to die instantly.
There will always be some process before that will happen but if bitcoin die and everything gonna die too.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: newdevices on June 10, 2023, 06:39:30 PM

Bitcoin is still very volatile today because this is the weekend, pump and dump will occur this week,
if you ask altcoins will survive and yes of course they will survive, but not all altcoins will survive,
but altcoins which do have fundamentals.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Chainsmokers on June 10, 2023, 07:49:02 PM
Altcoins will survive if you are patient because indeed the impact of bearish is like now,
dumps occur in altcoins even though Bitcoin is the one being dumped,
therefore if you want to trade or invest in bitcoin it is best to check or analyze bitcoin prices for the future,
if not then you will lose if when trading you buy an altcoin then bitcoin dump.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: jaberwock on June 11, 2023, 06:29:44 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
Nobody questions why bitcoin is falling though? I mean if bitcoin drops, most of the alts drop as well we know that much, but lets assume a scenario in the future alts are doing so well that bitcoin is no longer first ranked. But, what happened? Why is it not? Alts being good helps bitcoin go higher so it shouldn't really drop, so for bitcoin to drop and alts go up, there must be something wrong with bitcoin alone and nothing wrong with others and I can't see that happening anytime soon.

It means if bitcoin drops then others drop as well. I know it is not going to be simple to realize that but bitcoin is the locomotive of this market and wherever it goes, the other ones are just following its footsteps to go to same direction as well.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: SlimShadyMmp on June 11, 2023, 09:33:27 PM
It will get to a point where those market have stop dumping so much and altcoins will start growing through it and Hopefully people will take advantage of the cheap alt prices and accumulate be careful out there Scammers are also hunting you down so experiment on small and only use contracts


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: lunnatic on June 11, 2023, 10:52:11 PM
Altcoins can survive if the Bitcoin price is able to stay above $ 20k,
because if the Bitcoin price is below $ 20k I will get out of altcoins as soon as possible,
because the dump will be worse than this, moreover the bear market will cause panic selling,
and even whales will also sell that coin and buy again if crypto market stable.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: doomloop on June 12, 2023, 02:58:22 PM
Altcoins will survive if you are patient because indeed the impact of bearish is like now,
dumps occur in altcoins even though Bitcoin is the one being dumped,
therefore if you want to trade or invest in bitcoin it is best to check or analyze bitcoin prices for the future,
if not then you will lose if when trading you buy an altcoin then bitcoin dump.
Seeing your response, I think you probably didn't read the opening post, because if you did, you would know that the topic is about Bitcoin crashing to 0 and whether altcoins will be able to survive if that happens or not, but you say that if traders are patient, altcoins can survive and that is obviously not a statement about after the Bitcoin has crashed to 0 because in that case, I don't think that any patience or anything can stop altcoins from dumping.

Bitcoin is the main pillar of the whole cryptocurrency market, if it shatters, the whole market starts shaking and falling apart, so if there is no Bitcoin, I don't think that there will be any altcoin as well and the whole cryptocurrency ecosystem will just vanish from existence.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: gaston castano on June 14, 2023, 12:06:22 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?


all altcoins depend on bitcoin, even though during a bull run altcoin prices can go up thousands of percent while bitcoin is lower than that.
eventually
bitcoin is the determinant of the ups and downs in the crypto market.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: barhavsky on June 24, 2023, 03:52:22 PM
I don't think altcoins can survive without btc, so I think the price of btc will continue to affect the price of altcoins.
some examples have been seen when an altcoin is rising, then the btc price suddenly drops, the altcoin will also immediately fall.

100% agree with your opinion, because Bitcoin is an important player in cryptocurrency, so if the price of Bitcoin goes down, then the price of altcoin will also go down, especially if Bitcoin falls, then of course altcoin would not survive, therefore Bitcoin is called the king of cryptocurrency and of course it is true.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: southerngentuk on June 24, 2023, 06:11:14 PM
At the beginning of the history of cryptocurrency, this may have been true, but now it is completely wrong. It is true that when there is positive and negative news surrounding Bitcoin that can affect the price of altcoins, it is impossible to crash an altcoin. You can't judge the whole thing if only this coin revolves around bitcoin; there are still many other ways to value them if bitcoin doesn't exist. Depending on what they bring, the coverage is high or low. So even though they may be hit hard, altcoins still hold a certain level in the crypto market.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: ningrum on June 24, 2023, 09:34:01 PM
I don't think altcoins can survive without btc, so I think the price of btc will continue to affect the price of altcoins.
some examples have been seen when an altcoin is rising, then the btc price suddenly drops, the altcoin will also immediately fall.

100% agree with your opinion, because Bitcoin is an important player in cryptocurrency, so if the price of Bitcoin goes down, then the price of altcoin will also go down, especially if Bitcoin falls, then of course altcoin would not survive, therefore Bitcoin is called the king of cryptocurrency and of course it is true.

We can now calm down a bit, because the price of Bitcoin is back to $30k again,
of course this is good news for all of us, because according to technical analysis if it can break the $31k resistance,
then bitcoin can be bullish and now the price of Bitcoin is still above $30k so it is very safe, but remember we are still at a high level of volatility,
so prepare your best strategy.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Amejoaquim on June 26, 2023, 11:48:09 AM
Altcoins cannot be survive without BTC.
If you looked into the market, when the price of bitcoin down and all of the altcoins gonna fall too.
So in my opinion bitcoin is just like the central of any altcoins in cryptospace.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: nimogsm on June 26, 2023, 03:45:17 PM
Altcoins cannot be survive without BTC.
If you looked into the market, when the price of bitcoin down and all of the altcoins gonna fall too.
So in my opinion bitcoin is just like the central of any altcoins in cryptospace.
you are completely right. Especially when bitcoin is in decline for a long time, then some altcoins generally cease to exist, since there is simply no demand for them and they are traded only against the dollar and have many zeros in price. as for me, such falls are even a good thing, since the market is being cleared of various dubious altcoins.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: riskarcher on June 26, 2023, 05:51:52 PM
Altcoins cannot be survive without BTC.
If you looked into the market, when the price of bitcoin down and all of the altcoins gonna fall too.
So in my opinion bitcoin is just like the central of any altcoins in cryptospace.
cryptocurrency was created because ecosystem blockchain is intergrate with each other like market exchange CEX and DEX, promotion, new technology for support blockchain system so i think not only BTC that make cryptocurrency like now but altcoin because their make all of the world trust with Bitcoin and the future of decentralize finance


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: South Park on June 26, 2023, 08:18:30 PM
Altcoins cannot be survive without BTC.
If you looked into the market, when the price of bitcoin down and all of the altcoins gonna fall too.
So in my opinion bitcoin is just like the central of any altcoins in cryptospace.
you are completely right. Especially when bitcoin is in decline for a long time, then some altcoins generally cease to exist, since there is simply no demand for them and they are traded only against the dollar and have many zeros in price. as for me, such falls are even a good thing, since the market is being cleared of various dubious altcoins.
Unfortunately this is not a permanent process and those coins which disappeared are going to be eventually replaced by many other coins as scammers have nothing to lose by releasing a lot of projects, however I really expect that at some point on the future as adoption grows and people get disappointed with altcoins that we will finally see most of those coins disappear, as scammers run out of naive people to scam and deceive with their lies.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: sana54210 on June 27, 2023, 09:49:35 AM
Altcoins cannot be survive without BTC.
If you looked into the market, when the price of bitcoin down and all of the altcoins gonna fall too.
So in my opinion bitcoin is just like the central of any altcoins in cryptospace.
you are completely right. Especially when bitcoin is in decline for a long time, then some altcoins generally cease to exist, since there is simply no demand for them and they are traded only against the dollar and have many zeros in price. as for me, such falls are even a good thing, since the market is being cleared of various dubious altcoins.
Unfortunately this is not a permanent process and those coins which disappeared are going to be eventually replaced by many other coins as scammers have nothing to lose by releasing a lot of projects, however I really expect that at some point on the future as adoption grows and people get disappointed with altcoins that we will finally see most of those coins disappear, as scammers run out of naive people to scam and deceive with their lies.
The ease of starting a new project to scam people is so easy, people do not even have an idea how easy it is to build a project and I do not mean just a terrible one I mean like a very good one as well. I can start a very very very amazing project for 10k dollars, as long as I do not have to follow up on what the promises are, and just scam people then with ten thousand dollars I can scam people for millions of dollars.

Yet for some reason people still see "good" projects and invest. Scamming others becoming easier and easier, hell I have seen people who literally talked about using AI to scam people these days, and that's getting at a scary level considering how easy that would make things for scammers, I hope we can stop them before it gets too late.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Sebas.tian on June 28, 2023, 06:58:05 AM
Quote from: Amejoaquim
Altcoins cannot be survive without BTC.
If you looked into the market, when the price of bitcoin down and all of the altcoins gonna fall too.
So in my opinion bitcoin is just like the central of any altcoins in cryptospace.

We have experienced so many things from Bitcoin and altcoins that made majority of Bitcoin and altcoins  investors to believed that altcoins cannot survive without Bitcoin because whenever the price of Bitcoin is increasing in the market altcoins price will be increasing too. Bitcoin price increase higher few days ago that make altcoins investors to start having hope on altcoins that the price will increase higher before the end of this last week in the month of June, so that they can sell their altcoins to make profit. Bitcoin will still remain the king among other cryptocurrencies no matter the challenges may be in the market because Bitcoin has more population than altcoins.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: lunnatic on June 28, 2023, 09:45:56 AM
Quote from: Amejoaquim
Altcoins cannot be survive without BTC.
If you looked into the market, when the price of bitcoin down and all of the altcoins gonna fall too.
So in my opinion bitcoin is just like the central of any altcoins in cryptospace.

We have experienced so many things from Bitcoin and altcoins that made majority of Bitcoin and altcoins  investors to believed that altcoins cannot survive without Bitcoin because whenever the price of Bitcoin is increasing in the market altcoins price will be increasing too. Bitcoin price increase higher few days ago that make altcoins investors to start having hope on altcoins that the price will increase higher before the end of this last week in the month of June, so that they can sell their altcoins to make profit. Bitcoin will still remain the king among other cryptocurrencies no matter the challenges may be in the market because Bitcoin has more population than altcoins.
It is clear that Bitcoin will still be king because it will be very difficult for sure for other coins to beat it,
that's why Bitcoin is the benchmark for altcoins,
what is clear is that we will see how far it goes.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: dunfida on June 28, 2023, 10:53:02 PM
Quote from: Amejoaquim
Altcoins cannot be survive without BTC.
If you looked into the market, when the price of bitcoin down and all of the altcoins gonna fall too.
So in my opinion bitcoin is just like the central of any altcoins in cryptospace.

We have experienced so many things from Bitcoin and altcoins that made majority of Bitcoin and altcoins  investors to believed that altcoins cannot survive without Bitcoin because whenever the price of Bitcoin is increasing in the market altcoins price will be increasing too. Bitcoin price increase higher few days ago that make altcoins investors to start having hope on altcoins that the price will increase higher before the end of this last week in the month of June, so that they can sell their altcoins to make profit. Bitcoin will still remain the king among other cryptocurrencies no matter the challenges may be in the market because Bitcoin has more population than altcoins.
There's always a separate market on which if ever Bitcoin would really be falling into its demise and would really be going into the floor then for sure majority of coins would be plummeting down too on which
it would really be that a normal scenario or condition that we would really be able to face on but we cant really avoid the fact that there would be coins that would be going into the opposite side or path.
If there's something bad happen on Bitcoin then the entire crypto space confidence would really be greatly be affected but doesnt mean that it would really be over for everything.

Demand and recognition would be the key on which there would really be those coins who would be able to survive with this kind of situation on which if the market plummets then for sure
lots of buyers would really be looking into a certain point for them to buyback and this would be entirely be depending if interest and demand would be still there.
Its really just that normal that emotions would really be playing out these kind of times.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: poodle63 on June 28, 2023, 11:57:06 PM
It is clear that Bitcoin will still be king because it will be very difficult for sure for other coins to beat it,
that's why Bitcoin is the benchmark for altcoins,
what is clear is that we will see how far it goes.
The answer can be known easily but people keep talking what's gonna happen with altcoin if bitcoin dead and it sounds that these people never saw the bull and bear trend that happened in the crypto market right now.
I do believe if everything gonna back again to the zero value if bitcoin will be vanished but impossible to happen now.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: nur rochid on July 03, 2023, 02:21:39 AM
Quote from: Amejoaquim
Altcoins cannot be survive without BTC.
If you looked into the market, when the price of bitcoin down and all of the altcoins gonna fall too.
So in my opinion bitcoin is just like the central of any altcoins in cryptospace.

We have experienced so many things from Bitcoin and altcoins that made majority of Bitcoin and altcoins  investors to believed that altcoins cannot survive without Bitcoin because whenever the price of Bitcoin is increasing in the market altcoins price will be increasing too. Bitcoin price increase higher few days ago that make altcoins investors to start having hope on altcoins that the price will increase higher before the end of this last week in the month of June, so that they can sell their altcoins to make profit. Bitcoin will still remain the king among other cryptocurrencies no matter the challenges may be in the market because Bitcoin has more population than altcoins.
It is clear that Bitcoin will still be king because it will be very difficult for sure for other coins to beat it,
that's why Bitcoin is the benchmark for altcoins,
what is clear is that we will see how far it goes.
the trust factor brought bitcoin to the top of cryptocurrency, many even identified cryptocurrencies as bitcoin. bitcoin is not affected by the movement of altcoins, but instead altcoins are affected by the movement of bitcoin. therefore from the beginning until now bitcoin will always be the king of cryptocurrencies, and until later I think it will also be in the same position. it is difficult for ethereum as the closest altcoin to bitcoin to surpass it when viewed from the difference in the total market capitulation


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: BaeSuzy on July 08, 2023, 06:47:27 AM
BTC is the pioneer and i don't think altcoin will survive if the btc fall. But in this current situation it almost impossible for BTC to fall because BTC is already too big and there so many supporter for this coin.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: disconnectme on July 17, 2023, 06:43:15 PM
I have a feeling the worst is over for Altcoins, everything bad that could draw the price down had already happened. Now is the time to start making real position in the mid to top cap Altcoins in the space. Not all these Altcoins would make it to the next bull market that is all it has always been so it is better to go for Altcoins with no bagholders that are looking to dump every time the price goes up


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: kevinzxz on August 02, 2023, 03:34:16 AM
I don't think altcoins can survive without btc, so I think the price of btc will continue to affect the price of altcoins.
some examples have been seen when an altcoin is rising, then the btc price suddenly drops, the altcoin will also immediately fall.

I agree with you, because Bitcoin is the main foundation in cryptocurrency, so of course the price of Bitcoin greatly affects the price of altcoin, therefore Bitcoin price movements will affect market conditions, so therefore 50% more of my assets in cryptocurrency are in Bitcoin, because Bitcoin is the best investment for the long term and definitely give me profit.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: landheer on August 02, 2023, 05:01:27 AM
it's true that when bitcoin goes up, altcoins will also go up, actually I don't know about this but I'm only speaking according to my experience. In my opinion, this happens because of habit or from a fundamental point of view, people usually have a habit when BTC goes up, altcoins also go up and vice versa. but sometimes altcoins can go up even though btc is down because there is positive news about the altcoin.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: fmz89 on August 07, 2023, 12:04:21 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
if btc dies meaning doomsday happen on economic globally neither nuclear war which is wont happen  :D, or satoshi pop up and decided to end btc
in our lifetime crypto would change basic principle of money and as you can see everyone can makes personal content to gain profit. this trend wont change


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Xampeuu on August 09, 2023, 02:55:30 AM
I don't think altcoins can survive without btc, so I think the price of btc will continue to affect the price of altcoins.
some examples have been seen when an altcoin is rising, then the btc price suddenly drops, the altcoin will also immediately fall.

I agree with you, because Bitcoin is the main foundation in cryptocurrency, so of course the price of Bitcoin greatly affects the price of altcoin, therefore Bitcoin price movements will affect market conditions, so therefore 50% more of my assets in cryptocurrency are in Bitcoin, because Bitcoin is the best investment for the long term and definitely give me profit.
the main parameter in cryptocurrency is bitcoin, and as if movements in the cryptocurrency market are based on bitcoin movements, therefore I myself am also penalized if altcoins can survive if bitcoin dies. Of course, if bitcoin dies, it means that the cryptocurrency market will also die. Many investors will not believe it, which will eventually impact altcoins. bitcoin is like a king in the cryptocurrency world, and if the king dies then his troops will run topsy-turvy


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: jasonjm on August 09, 2023, 04:02:10 AM
I have a feeling the worst is over for Altcoins, everything bad that could draw the price down had already happened. Now is the time to start making real position in the mid to top cap Altcoins in the space.

Well, I respectfully disagree with your point of view, I think the worst season for altcoin is about to happen. Although we are seeing some minor pumps in the altcoin market, this is just a hint to gain the attention of investors. The altcoin market is about to dump. 

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Not all these Altcoins would make it to the next bull market that is all it has always been so it is better to go for Altcoins with no bagholders that are looking to dump every time the price goes up

Yes! The majority of altcoins investments are a one-time thing. You enter, make a profit and forget the coin. The reason is that they are not going up any time soon.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Rupok on August 09, 2023, 07:29:08 AM
Btc is the first world best crypto which has taken over the core rea marketcap in the crypto market but if anyone thinks that altcoins can survive in the crypto market without btc, I would say they are totally wrong.  Altacoin can never survive without Btc.  Altacoins always depend on BTC movement, as BTC acts as the dominant currency.  Looking at the market, BTC is dominant in every cryptocurrency. There is no liquidity to back up altcoins.  Altcoins have advantages as well as disadvantages but their certainty is not guaranteed. Altcoins are considered based on BTC price where as BTC decreases the price of altcoins also decreases. Altcoins cannot be thought of without BTC.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: kotajikikox on August 09, 2023, 08:17:12 AM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.
but you did not mentioned about how altcoin moves in the past years without bitcoin moving up?
and that is what we called altcoin season.
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That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
potentially ? yeah Altcoin will die together with bitcoin if the system will remain such this.
so I don't know where or when or if this are going to happen , but altcoin will indeed died with the  main coin.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: jaberwock on August 10, 2023, 07:26:02 AM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.
but you did not mentioned about how altcoin moves in the past years without bitcoin moving up?
and that is what we called altcoin season.
I think that will not happen, I mean not anytime soon at least. I still think that we can make a retirement plan that involves bitcoin without fear and it should be fine. However, if we plan on something like this then we could always say that you are right and alts will die too. Whatever has caused bitcoin to be zero or near zero, will not pity alts and keep them that way, they will all be gone and be zero as well, that's just how it is.

I know that it's hard to accept that, but that's the reality. It's going to be a tough situation to be in, but it's going to be fine. I hope that it gets to a point where we are talking about something unrealistic to me, like having gold go to zero, it's as unlikely as that if you ask me.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: carlfebz2 on August 10, 2023, 09:28:23 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.
but you did not mentioned about how altcoin moves in the past years without bitcoin moving up?
and that is what we called altcoin season.
I think that will not happen, I mean not anytime soon at least. I still think that we can make a retirement plan that involves bitcoin without fear and it should be fine. However, if we plan on something like this then we could always say that you are right and alts will die too. Whatever has caused bitcoin to be zero or near zero, will not pity alts and keep them that way, they will all be gone and be zero as well, that's just how it is.

I know that it's hard to accept that, but that's the reality. It's going to be a tough situation to be in, but it's going to be fine. I hope that it gets to a point where we are talking about something unrealistic to me, like having gold go to zero, it's as unlikely as that if you ask me.
Always set precautionary measures because despite on being that #1 in the market doesnt mean that it would really be giving out guarantees that it would last forever or would really be able to stay up that on point.

This is why it would really be always that nice or ideal approach on having that risks management thing because on the time that you wont really be that making yourself that not expecting too much
and wont really get wrecked on the time that the market would really be going into the opposite side. We cant really be able to tell that altcoins would be solely be dependent with Bitcoin but cant really be denied that on the time that Bitcoin would be kissing on the floor then everything would follow but we dont know if there would be altcoins would be able to widthstand such condition or situation on which it might
potentially be able to replace Bitcoin into its position.

No one really knows on what would be the future looks like and this is why, its always been that ideal on having that kind of normal approach on things on which it would really be just that
possible to happen or not. We dont know on what the futures lies ahead in speaking with this market.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: savetheFORUM on August 14, 2023, 12:29:02 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
This is just a thought experiment and nothing more. I think the market is doing fine and all these small tiny drops do not really mean anything if you ask me. I understand that people do not look at it like they look at real thing but still thinking about what could happen on the long run is a weird one.

I think it should be remembered that we are living in a situation where things should be easier to handle and we could potentially do that if we are smart about it. I understand that life is not that simple but at the very least life is not as hard as people think it is. Hopefully it will get to a point where we are not going to end up with anything much worse than this, and that should help people look at the bright side.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: OrangeII on August 14, 2023, 02:03:56 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
bitcoin is a role model of all types of crypto that exist today. So, when bitcoin falls, it's very likely that altcoins will also fall unless those altcoins really have advantages and better commutation than bitcoin, but so far I don't think there has been an altcoin that has surpassed bitcoin.
In addition, if only bitcoin prices fell, then altcoin prices would actually fall, and probably most of the altcoin projects would go bankrupt. However, I hope that this will never happen.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: tygeade on August 17, 2023, 05:35:20 PM
I think that will not happen, I mean not anytime soon at least. I still think that we can make a retirement plan that involves bitcoin without fear and it should be fine. However, if we plan on something like this then we could always say that you are right and alts will die too. Whatever has caused bitcoin to be zero or near zero, will not pity alts and keep them that way, they will all be gone and be zero as well, that's just how it is.

I know that it's hard to accept that, but that's the reality. It's going to be a tough situation to be in, but it's going to be fine. I hope that it gets to a point where we are talking about something unrealistic to me, like having gold go to zero, it's as unlikely as that if you ask me.
We are not going to have bitcoin crashing anytime soon, so there is no need to fear the possibility of this. We are at a point where its all doing well enough and we do not have to worry about anything at all. I understand that its going to take a while before people could realize the situation we are in, but we are getting closer to halving so the price will certainly start to go up instead.

The possibility of bitcoin going down, and altcoins following it just stays in imaginations and made up conversations, its not real and its not going to be real and talking about it only gives it life. This is why I do not think that it should be considered an important aspect, there is really nothing to worry about in this matter.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Xampeuu on August 18, 2023, 02:47:05 AM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
bitcoin is a role model of all types of crypto that exist today. So, when bitcoin falls, it's very likely that altcoins will also fall unless those altcoins really have advantages and better commutation than bitcoin, but so far I don't think there has been an altcoin that has surpassed bitcoin.
In addition, if only bitcoin prices fell, then altcoin prices would actually fall, and probably most of the altcoin projects would go bankrupt. However, I hope that this will never happen.
but what is difficult for now is related to trust, where it is not easy for altcoins to survive without bitcoin. we can see for now where bitcoin has decreased by 7%, and we can also see altcoins have decreased too, even the decline is bigger than bitcoin. it is unimaginable if bitcoin crashes or even disappears, of course there will be a lot of big news, where many investors will go out of business, and money will only move to a handful of people. but with the development of bitcoin so far I don't think that will happen, but for altcoins there is no guarantee


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: radjie on August 18, 2023, 09:26:00 AM
It has often happened that when Bitcoin experiences a decline, Altcoins automatically experience the same thing, because all Altcoin exchanges are based on Bitcoin, Altcoins will become worthless if they cannot be converted to Bitcoin.  But some Altcoins are not affected by Bitcoin price movements.  This is due to the role of influencers who are able to control it


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on August 18, 2023, 04:59:19 PM
It has often happened that when Bitcoin experiences a decline, Altcoins automatically experience the same thing, because all Altcoin exchanges are based on Bitcoin, Altcoins will become worthless if they cannot be converted to Bitcoin.  But some Altcoins are not affected by Bitcoin price movements.  This is due to the role of influencers who are able to control it
As far as I understand some altcoin prices go up due to the dumping of bitcoin price increase. But there are some coins which have no relation to bitcoin price rise. But bitcoin is now used by people in almost all countries. But it is still banned in many countries.There is. Bitcoin market is in a lot of dumping right now I don't know why this is happening hope it will recover soon.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: doomloop on August 19, 2023, 03:29:23 AM
It has often happened that when Bitcoin experiences a decline, Altcoins automatically experience the same thing, because all Altcoin exchanges are based on Bitcoin, Altcoins will become worthless if they cannot be converted to Bitcoin.  But some Altcoins are not affected by Bitcoin price movements.  This is due to the role of influencers who are able to control it
No cryptocurrency can have a permanently different path from Bitcoin, it can all be temporary even if there is an influencer or a celebrity or whatever making its price move in a different direction from Bitcoin's. However, soon enough, the cryptocurrency will start following the movements of Bitcoin and then either go up or come down as soon as Bitcoin does that and that is because people generally make investments or sell their assets when they see some movement in Bitcoin.

For example, if I want to buy a certain altcoin, I would want it to have a good price, so I will wait and keep an eye on the market, specifically Bitcoin, and as soon as Bitcoin starts dropping, I will know that I will get the opportunity to buy that altcoin at a lower price since it will drop for sure now.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Best-mary on August 19, 2023, 04:13:21 AM
I don't think so. In fact, the case is been reversed here. Bitcoin is indeed the king of crypto but not all Alts evolve around it.

During this period that Btc is falling so rapidly from 30k to 25-26k, some alts didn't make that much difference. Aside from the coins listed recently like Cyber. Other old coins like Bch and its likes are still performing well regardless of what is happening to Bitcoin


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: sana54210 on August 19, 2023, 04:44:40 PM
It has often happened that when Bitcoin experiences a decline, Altcoins automatically experience the same thing, because all Altcoin exchanges are based on Bitcoin, Altcoins will become worthless if they cannot be converted to Bitcoin.  But some Altcoins are not affected by Bitcoin price movements.  This is due to the role of influencers who are able to control it
Just like right now, bitcoin has gone down due to some news, and everything else went down as well, that's how it happens and we shouldn't be shocked about it. I mean I get that sometimes there are moments when this may not be the case but most of the time it is. I think we should be considering this as a good thing though because when the market moves all together, that is making it be something a lot more important.

There is nothing wrong with this, we are talking about something that would be very important in the end. I get that we are going to end up seeing some changes here and there, but we can't really assume it will be different, when bitcoin goes down like this, alts go down with it as we and see right now.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: kotajikikox on August 21, 2023, 06:42:00 AM
I don't think altcoins can survive without btc, so I think the price of btc will continue to affect the price of altcoins.
some examples have been seen when an altcoin is rising, then the btc price suddenly drops, the altcoin will also immediately fall.
Altcoin/bitcoin has undergone a lot of change in the past few years that we must take into account

1. We have more decentralised exchanges with different blockchains where bitcoin can not be traded and they still make large trades
indeed , this is the reason why altcoins nowadays seems to be standing even without the image of bitcoin.
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2. That the decline in bitcoin-altcoin has decreased and we have more stable-altcoin and altcoin-altcoin
not sure if we truly have More stable coin but of course we have some few(or at least the trusted that i am pointing)
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3. That bitcoin have less than 45% market dominance, less than in previous years and approaching halving.

correct , not like in the past that the domination of bitcoin are truly large,
but nowadays ? it decreases though we will see what can be in the next bullrun as mostly bitcoin increases dominance to 60% and above.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Biznesmen on September 18, 2023, 04:38:11 PM
It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?


Just consider what you'll do if Bitcoin absolutely crashes. Are you going to start investing in alternative currencies, or are you going to stop investing altogether? Every regular person who invests in cryptocurrencies experiences the same response. The technology that connects the cryptocurrency world is known as blockchain, and Bitcoin is to thank for its introduction to the public. And Bitcoin, the dominant cryptocurrency, is the most dependable digital asset. Trust in the crypto realm is undoubtedly shaken when it fails. I have no idea what the future holds, but I think that at some point, this may be the pivotal moment. But I guess it won't be the end of crypto because the world will certainly be willing to embrace the concept of crypto.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Sophokles on September 18, 2023, 06:41:09 PM
I don't think so. In fact, the case is been reversed here. Bitcoin is indeed the king of crypto but not all Alts evolve around it.

During this period that Btc is falling so rapidly from 30k to 25-26k, some alts didn't make that much difference. Aside from the coins listed recently like Cyber. Other old coins like Bch and its likes are still performing well regardless of what is happening to Bitcoin

What is happening with cyber is manipulation. They just airdropped token to their early tester, like other protocols that follow these exact methods. Most of the early investors tokens are locked, so the team is just manipulating the market to sell off their holdings at a high price. Very predictable pattern followed by other projects. I am not sure why you mentioned BCH. There isn't anything interesting going on around it.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: kawetsriyanto on September 18, 2023, 09:59:06 PM
It has often happened that when Bitcoin experiences a decline, Altcoins automatically experience the same thing, because all Altcoin exchanges are based on Bitcoin, Altcoins will become worthless if they cannot be converted to Bitcoin.  But some Altcoins are not affected by Bitcoin price movements.  This is due to the role of influencers who are able to control it
Indeed. Commonly, most altcoins prices depend on Bitcoin price because they follow the trend of Bitcoin. But not every altcoin always follows Bitcoin price trend, sometimes they can increase while Bitcoin is decreasing its price. An altcoin can increase because there is a hype, it can be related to the news around the altcoin. The hype can rise when it is listed on a big exchange, there is a staking program, or there is a burning event. These are some reasons that we are quite familiar, but there are many other factors. However, there is a crypto coin that never depend on Bitcoin, it is stable coins. On the contrary, stable coins often increase their price quite significantly when there is a big dump in Bitcoin.

Bitcoin market is in a lot of dumping right now I don't know why this is happening hope it will recover soon.
We are still in the bearish season, mate. It is the absolute reason.
When we start the bullish season, I'm sure the market will recover very soon. Just wait for 2024 when the first year of bullish season.



Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: Alpha Marine on September 20, 2023, 11:44:43 AM
I believe some altcoins will support without Bitcoin but barely.
Bitcoin has the highest market cap and that is not just because it was the first currency and the highest in value but because it is trusted by people.
If Bitcoin goes extinct people would lose a lot of trust in crypto because people will feel like if Bitcoin that is so decentralized can go extinct how much more all these other coins with lower market value and market cap.

There will be people who would still be in the crypto market without Bitcoin but it will not be as it is with Bitcoin.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: lixer on September 20, 2023, 02:28:23 PM
Just consider what you'll do if Bitcoin absolutely crashes. Are you going to start investing in alternative currencies, or are you going to stop investing altogether? Every regular person who invests in cryptocurrencies experiences the same response. The technology that connects the cryptocurrency world is known as blockchain, and Bitcoin is to thank for its introduction to the public. And Bitcoin, the dominant cryptocurrency, is the most dependable digital asset. Trust in the crypto realm is undoubtedly shaken when it fails. I have no idea what the future holds, but I think that at some point, this may be the pivotal moment. But I guess it won't be the end of crypto because the world will certainly be willing to embrace the concept of crypto.
Even if the concept doesn't die off, the technology called Blockchain might remain and be revived, but if Bitcoin crashes and vanishes, altcoins won't be able to survive because people would sell their altcoins as a first when they see Bitcoin crashing badly since the whole market knows that altcoins move along with Bitcoin. When it goes up, they go up as well, and when it crashes, they can't stay profitable. So, when something like that starts happening, altcoins will be the first ones to crash.

However, once the dust settles, people and developers will obviously start working on cryptocurrencies again, and there will be a new beginning for the industry. However, it won't be the same this time around if there is no Bitcoin, most people might not have any interest in cryptocurrencies after that.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: FanEagle on September 21, 2023, 02:55:49 PM
Even if the concept doesn't die off, the technology called Blockchain might remain and be revived, but if Bitcoin crashes and vanishes, altcoins won't be able to survive because people would sell their altcoins as a first when they see Bitcoin crashing badly since the whole market knows that altcoins move along with Bitcoin. When it goes up, they go up as well, and when it crashes, they can't stay profitable. So, when something like that starts happening, altcoins will be the first ones to crash.

However, once the dust settles, people and developers will obviously start working on cryptocurrencies again, and there will be a new beginning for the industry. However, it won't be the same this time around if there is no Bitcoin, most people might not have any interest in cryptocurrencies after that.
This is true, blockchain is so important but bitcoin is even more so. Think of blockchain as the sea, and bitcoin as the lighthouse, people may still have the sea but without the lighthouse they would be too afraid to voyage through the dark waters with a fear that they may crash.

This is why we need to end up with something that would be a lot better on the long term, it should benefit them one way or another. I know that it is going to cost us a lot to just keep bitcoin up for that reason, but lucky for us we also love bitcoin for what it is itself without the need to say anything about the altcoins coming along with it. It is like a whale that feeds other fish. We should love them all, and think of them as one part of a bigger whole.


Title: Re: What if its falls! Will altcoin survive?
Post by: RussianEnglishTranslation on September 22, 2023, 03:22:03 AM
XRP will likely take the place of BTC on CMC. It wouldn't surprise me if SOL, Q Blockchain or HBAR overtook Ethereum. There are a lot of open ETH shorts RN.