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Title: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: bangjoe on March 10, 2023, 03:58:29 PM
I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Oshosondy on March 10, 2023, 04:18:21 PM
If there is such service, do not be surprised if it would not backfire on gambling sites because gambling is just in nature of humans.

There are some gambling sites that have articles that can help gamblers, notifying them when to stop gamble, they do notify gamblers in their gambling site. But I do not know if some gamblers that are getting addicted are reading it or not.

Also is self-exclusion.

But the best help a gambler can get is to self-discipline himself and know the truth that he can not gamble to make money, and to realize how greedy he is becoming to earn from gamblers sites. Also if family member noticed, self-exclusion and rehabilitation is indeed necessary.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Kelvinid on March 10, 2023, 04:27:11 PM
Does it really help them? No, and I don't think they need to do that just for the sake of stopping people from becoming a gambling addict. Instead, they keep encouraging people to gamble on their site and enjoy themselves.

Honestly, being addicted to gambling is not about the site, it is about losing control of ourselves. Though they are saying just gamble moderately but in the case of addiction, they have nothing to do with that but to let them play, instead of stopping them.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: molsewid on March 10, 2023, 04:29:47 PM
I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?
Hmmm,  I don't know if it is possible but i think it is not. Given that casinos are made for gamblers to play and play there's no rule that they have that limitations to the amount they are going to bet. I am not being a judgmental but they are only after the money,gamblers should be accountable for their own actions, we should limits ourselves I know it is very easy to say but hard to do but we badly needed it,in order for us not to fall for addictions.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Beparanf on March 10, 2023, 04:32:24 PM
Self exclusion if that’s what you implying on stop gambling services won’t backfire on the casino because only few choose to activate this feature and most of them already lose their life savings so no more money for them to be given on the casino.

Casino use this feature to help those players that already spend a lot of money in the casino to stop ruining their life so that they can come back again whenever they are back to normal. Casino preferred a long term normal customer rather than a one time big time problematic customer.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: 348Judah on March 10, 2023, 04:39:43 PM
I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble.

I don't expect you to generalized issues that are for personal reasons like this one, how can the entire gambling casinos be out on a pause because of some few unconscious gamblers who were too addicted to gambling and of course i believe their addiction may not only ends with gambling alone, that's their kind of lifestyle they have chosen.

I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.

Try them in other aspects of life as well and you will still get same and worse results about them, addiction begins from lack of being disciplined in anything one does.

In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble

They can't because that's where they make their own money from, ask every gambler they will tell you that they know that gambling involves taking risk, yet they take it and enjoy the services and fun, everyone knows that ciggerate is bad for health yet people smoke it including children, government raises alot of campaign against it yet people abuse it, we have this freedom to do whatever we like with our lives but the aftermath is what some don't like seeing.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Frankolala on March 10, 2023, 04:45:34 PM
I don't think I have seen or heard of such service but, i know that casinos can write tips on how to go about on your gambling lives. In everything we do in life,it is our choice to determine if we want to stop gambling or not. We have the ability to control ourselves on any bad habit that has eaten us up.

An addicted gambler needs to stay away from gambling or should go on rehab so that this habit can be gotten rid of. This best way is self exclusion, gambling should be seen as a entertainment in order for easy control. Casinos are after their business and might not want to have such service.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: mindrust on March 10, 2023, 04:50:34 PM
I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?

It is just another way to promote their business imo.

-Come here we want you to become responsible gamblers!! We can limit your bets so you won't get addicted!

Lmao.

The casino owners don't really give a damn about the gambling addicts. Why would they? If a person is weak enough to get addicted to something, nobody can stop him/her. The world is full of addicts you just can't fix it and it is definitely not the casinos' responsibility to fix it. Even the governments can't really do anything about it other than banning gambling and as you know it is not really a solution neither. Long story short, weak people will get addicted and strong people will not and the life will go on as usual.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Gozie51 on March 10, 2023, 04:56:08 PM

In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.


This is a different situation IMO. Cigarette disclaimer is concerning health directly but gambling isn't even though a gambler can get depressed and cause another thing to happen to them but that is extraneous event not directly causing harm to health and I think that is why the tobacco companies are regulated by law to always informed smokers the danger of their products to their health.

Having said the above, gambling is strictly for the purpose of business to both giver and receiver, in this extent the bettor and the owner of the casino respectively. So the owner is out to make profit likewise the bettor playing to outsmart the owner of the business for his own profit. Therefore I think making such kind of publicity on addiction may mean the owner shooting himself on the foot.

Moreover, if that was to be done, it would have been easier to limit the number of times an account is allowed to bet in a particular casino at least to help bettors not to be an addict  ;D Addiction is a personal responsibility and an addict should get help through people around.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: alastantiger on March 10, 2023, 05:20:43 PM
To be candid, i do not see this as a good idea because you cannot stop others who are gambling for fun or those who are earning heavily from gambling just because of some other persons addiction or loosing in gambling. I strongly believe that whoever that is addicted to gambling and wishes to quit will definitely quit personally without his actions to quit affecting others. We all know that one man's food is  (https://steemit.com/hive-111293/@benson6/three-things-i-cherish-the-most-in-my-country-by-benson6)another mans poison. Definitely it will affect gambling platform because a lot of persons will not see good reason to gamble. Self discipline is one major way to quit gambling. I disagree with this idea.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: goldkingcoiner on March 10, 2023, 05:50:26 PM
I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?

If such any service actually exists then I highly doubt that the service will be offered by a casino or casino investors. In fact, the casino owners would probably protest such a service because it would ruin their profits. Like it or not, the truth is that a lot of a casinos profits are made from people who have a gambling problem. If you take those people away, the casino loses a lot of money. So I don't doubt they would lobby against it.

So your idea is a bit unrealistic.

But as far as the service itself is concerned, I think such a service would be a very good idea to help people get away from their gambling addictions.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on March 10, 2023, 06:01:02 PM
It's not about things from the outside, but it comes back to yourself, as you said they play to win not to have fun. Even those who have been ruined by their gambling are still playing to the best of their ability, shouldn't they stop when they are broken? and they realize that all this time they have been playing with the emotion of victory not to fill in the empty time.
I have friends who are very different about this, one plays for fun and the other plays to win. What happened? my friend who plays for fun wins more and my friend who plays to win he always loses, why? because there is emotion there.
So whether there is an advertising service or not it comes back to themselves, and I'm sure their friends also often give advice to stop playing but they don't listen to it, because I saw this myself.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: ryzaadit on March 10, 2023, 06:06:52 PM
As the gambler, even we already ask them for closed your account and they do that.

The gambler it self can register again to the site or he playing on other site, sometime even the casino help them to avoid addicted but it's always depends on the gambler it self. Most thing to be effective is to monitoring the gambler by his family.

His family need to take care his activity especially financial spending things, for maybe 6-12 month. Then, we can see the progress of him self after that.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: bittraffic on March 10, 2023, 06:07:56 PM
The self-exclusion wasn't enough since some users who did that to themselves are signing up back again for another casino. We saw some threads about  those users sometimes they even mistakenly deposited some funds to the wallet of an excluded account and came accusing the casino for now allowing them to withdraw the funds.

If it wasn't enough, perhaps the casino can offer to delete thier account when users are trying sell-exclusion. But ofc casino may not do that, its a business.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Lucasgabd on March 10, 2023, 06:11:15 PM
If there is such service, do not be surprised if it would not backfire on gambling sites because gambling is just in nature of humans.

There are some gambling sites that have articles that can help gamblers, notifying them when to stop gamble, they do notify gamblers in their gambling site. But I do not know if some gamblers that are getting addicted are reading it or not.

Also is self-exclusion.

But the best help a gambler can get is to self-discipline himself and know the truth that he can not gamble to make money, and to realize how greedy he is becoming to earn from gamblers sites. Also if family member noticed, self-exclusion and rehabilitation is indeed necessary.

Gambling is not human nature
It just hijacks our dopamine system in a way that hooks us
Intermittent rewards are cool but can be really detrimental to our judgement specially when clouded by emotions


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: BTCGalaxyA12 on March 10, 2023, 06:19:58 PM
What do you think about this?
It's unlikely to work if the gambler has no initiative to stop gambling.
Smoking cessation services are also not optimal in getting people to quit smoking. Another term for cigarette companies that create smoking services only because they are ordered to do so. However, we do not think that this effort was born from their pure initiative.
That's business. Every business aims to make a profit.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: kamvreto on March 10, 2023, 06:30:54 PM
If gambling services openly provide facilities to stop gambling, then they will lose users significantly. Nobody wants to gamble anymore. To stop gambling is everyone's responsibility, not the responsibility of the casino platform. Casinos only provide places to gamble and they will get huge profits. This is different from cigarette advertisements about warnings given not to smoke, but in fact more and more are smoking. Implementing such a thing is not a good move for the development of the casino, Bandar needs more income. As long as you don't violate the rules and don't manipulate gambling, casinos are the right place for those who aren't greedy.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Casdinyard on March 10, 2023, 06:40:35 PM
I think it's pretty responsible of them. They could've let these addicts pour their bankrolls every day, and profit from the misery these people are slowly subjecting themselves into, but they don't and are choosing to do the right way for the sake of doing it right to protect their customers and provide them with proper help in case. People may say "well it's only the addict who could recognize his wrongdoings and push himself to do better" To that I say, some people never take the leap of faith because no one's pushing them. And this action by casinos to stop gamblers who have gone too far is the push they very much need to give themselves a closer look introspectively and find out what's going on with them.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Finestream on March 10, 2023, 06:44:15 PM
Does it really help them? No, and I don't think they need to do that just for the sake of stopping people from becoming a gambling addict. Instead, they keep encouraging people to gamble on their site and enjoy themselves.

Honestly, being addicted to gambling is not about the site, it is about losing control of ourselves. Though they are saying just gamble moderately but in the case of addiction, they have nothing to do with that but to let them play, instead of stopping them.
Honestly, if the gambling site will do that, they will lost millions of gamblers in the end. That’s why instead of stopping them, they will promote their new games instead so that these gamblers will be even more interested to play more and lose more. Gambling is a business so they will surely do everything just to make their business click and earn a lot of profits from gamblers, just like any other type of business that aim to stay competitive in the market industry.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Davidvictorson on March 10, 2023, 07:00:25 PM
Every online casino that I have visited has a section dedicated to fighting gambling addition. When you click on the link, you would find articles and resources that offer direction and advice on how to gamble responsible. In addition, they recommend links to accredited organizations that would help and support a gambler with their addiction. Some of these organizations include,  - GamCare, Keep It Fun, Gambling Therapy. Also any gambler who wishes to restrict gambling contents can do so using https://www.netnanny.com/ or https://www.cyberpatrol.com/.
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Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: swogerino on March 10, 2023, 07:08:19 PM
I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?

I think what most well reputable casinos do is more than enough,they offer a self exclusion service so any person who feels the gambling addiction is starting to get him he opt for self exclusion from the casino for a couple of days,for a week,for a month and for 3 months the maximum I believe I have seen.That is the best I think for any gambler who wants to stop gambling for some time,they click on self exclusion and try and see for a few days,if they can't think of anything else except when the time will come that the self exclusion period ends and want to get back in gambling then this is sign he should ask for professional help,as easy as that,no need in my opinion to implement anything else beside this self exclusion service.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: harizen on March 10, 2023, 07:23:48 PM
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.

Alright, so you want gambling platforms to adjust on those who become addicted because of gambling?

Well, they can help but don't expect that they will focus on those. They make gambling a business therefore the target is for people to do gambling on their platforms. We can't blame them if one of their users got addicted to the process since in the first place, we are the ones who should do the necessary adjustment not to fall into the trap of negative gambling effects.

Fortunately, there are gambling sites that do have self-exclusion features. However, that doesn't stop the problem of addiction as that self-exclusion only applies to that specific gambling site, and looking at how big the gambling industry is, you can almost see gambling sites everywhere even just by simply walking in the park. The temptation is always there and that's the reality.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Rruchi man on March 10, 2023, 07:31:10 PM
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
It is a good idea and one that can be implemented by gambling platforms that think it is great and want to adopt the idea. However I feel not all gambling platforms will be interested in this since definitely not all of them have an interest in customer wellbeing but their own profit. I have seen ads that some gambling platforms have put up advicing people to know when to stop gambling. It is a very good thing but not all gambling platforms will be interested in trying to tell their customers to stop gambling.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on March 10, 2023, 08:37:18 PM
That's a brilliant idea by you O.P, and I'm sure if such is implemented, it will help reduce the rate of gambling addiction all around the world.
However, I strongly think this should be the job of the licensing gambling body not that of the various numerous casinos. As it is their duty to provide an enabling environment for people to gamble, and as such help providing tips to help addicts recover fully.

But one thing certain is that, to quit gambling, such individual needs to be willing and genuinely ready to quit, if not all effects will be in vain.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Oshosondy on March 10, 2023, 08:45:20 PM
That's a brilliant idea by you O.P, and I'm sure if such is implemented, it will help reduce the rate of gambling addiction all around the world.
However, I strongly think this should be the job of the licensing gambling body not that of the various numerous casinos. As it is their duty to provide an enabling environment for people to gamble, and as such help providing tips to help addicts recover fully.
But we all know that regulators and government in general does not care, all what they care about is how to collect tax. The truth is gambling is under-regulated.

But one thing certain is that, to quit gambling, such individual needs to be willing and genuinely ready to quit, if not all effects will be in vain.
If someone is addicted and suffered losses already, if the person go for rehab or his family take him to a rehab center, it is very likely that the person will later stop gambling because they will expose him to the truth for him to realize. Willingness may not come sometimes until certain things are done.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: chaser15 on March 10, 2023, 08:45:50 PM
No matter how good the service is, if a gambler won't consider taking that, that was all useless.

I doubt these addicted gamblers will even try to click the link for self-exclusion, stop gambling, delete accounts etc.

Although at some point, I'm impressed that gambling sites now consider adding such features and are not totally pure gambling platforms.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Zlantann on March 10, 2023, 08:53:49 PM

In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?

I have been close to people suffering from addiction and I can assume that quiting or controlling gambling is a personal decision. Gamble addicts needs all the help but until a person accepts he has a problem and decides to stop such harmful practice, he might not overcome the addiction.

Another clear fact is that gambling companies are not charitable organization because their sole aim is to make profit. Some of them will tell customers to gamble responsibly yet they engage in very catchy advertisement that can make people rush to casinos. Casinos make more money when more people get addicted and I have never seen a capitalist that will reject profit because of morality. They might pretend they care, but truth is they want your money.

But I also need to make it clear that there are some gambling companies that really care about the well being of their customers and they are willing to help if they are aware of the addiction of any of their customers.
The government can also make this stop gambling services compulsory to gambling companies. They should be mandated to promote and carryout comprehensive guidance, counselling and treatment services for those that are struggling with gamble addiction.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Heartilly on March 10, 2023, 09:08:34 PM
If a gambler is already to the point that can be considered as the worst addiction, gambling services issued by a gambling platform won't do anything and can't be a big help. Their service for someone who needs to take a break from gambling can only be followed by a gambler that can still control themselves. It's good that these gamblers can still understand what they are doing.

Those purely addicted gamblers already that don't understand their boundaries and limit should need serious treatment from a gambling rehabilitation facility.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Johnyz on March 10, 2023, 09:15:21 PM
There might not be option for automatically stop your from gambling but I think the site can help you if you do self-exclude and asked the site to disallow you from further playing on that site because you are getting addict already, this might work temporarily or a lifetime, depends on what you will ask.

There’s also a responsible gambling option where the site gives you help and advices for you to get away from that addiction, you might also want to click that option and see what can work for you to prevent a more worst addiction.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: rhomelmabini on March 10, 2023, 09:19:43 PM
What do you think about this?
The thing is with online gambling, casinos won't find if their customer is already a problem gambler, there won't be any sign to determine that. It's on the individual himself if he/she wants to self-exclude, it takes a lot of courage and positive thoughts though for a problem gambler to carry this out. Casinos won't find any signs of it but whoever are close to us will do especially family members so they should be the one first to spot those signs.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Distinctin on March 10, 2023, 09:22:00 PM
If there is such service, do not be surprised if it would not backfire on gambling sites because gambling is just in nature of humans.

There are some gambling sites that have articles that can help gamblers, notifying them when to stop gamble, they do notify gamblers in their gambling site. But I do not know if some gamblers that are getting addicted are reading it or not.

Also is self-exclusion.

But the best help a gambler can get is to self-discipline himself and know the truth that he can not gamble to make money, and to realize how greedy he is becoming to earn from gamblers sites. Also if family member noticed, self-exclusion and rehabilitation is indeed necessary.
Even if an addicted gambler will go into the stop gambling services or self-exclusion, as long as he is not disciplined enough to stick to what is right, then that will not still solve his addiction. And I’m not really sure if gambling sites will be able to follow the stop gambling services as they will lost millions of profits if they will imposed that on their addicted gamblers. As far as I know, casinos are here to make profits so they will always take advantage on the weakness of their players.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: robelneo on March 10, 2023, 09:49:05 PM

I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?

The gambling industry is committed to helping gamblers control their addiction which is why many casinos are implementing self-exclusion, it will exclude a player from their platform at a specific time frame that the gambler specifies when using this feature, and it will not backfire on the platform because they prefer gamblers with money that they can afford to play and they don't want people to blame them for the gambler's misery.
The self-exclusion is the least that they can do it is still up to the player to control their addiction in some ways that are available to them.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Ryker1 on March 10, 2023, 09:53:31 PM
For me, no one can stop it except yourself.
But if there is --it could be these services, counseling, self-exclusion programs, and limits on deposits and bets, and as we heard here, we have self-exclusion. While it may seem counterintuitive for a gambling platform to offer services that encourage users to gamble less, it can actually be a wise move in the long run. By promoting responsible gambling practices and providing resources for those who want to cut back or quit altogether, a company can build a reputation for being socially responsible and prioritize the well-being of its users.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: stomachgrowls on March 10, 2023, 09:54:48 PM

What do you think about this?
I do see that it would really be just some sort of respect or showing off some concern that they do really have care into those gamblers who had ended up on being addicted on which they are really making themselves

looked good or really have that in concern but deep inside we do really know that they do much prefer on seeing those gamblers who are really that experiencing that much huge problems in towards their activity.

The more the addicted the person the more revenue that they could really have and this is what they do like.This is why its really that fully contrary on what they are
trying out to achieve.They dont really just like for them to be seen as bad things throughout the market and this is why they do really have this.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: TimeTeller on March 10, 2023, 09:56:57 PM
For me, no one can stop it except yourself.
But if there is --it could be these services, counseling, self-exclusion programs, and limits on deposits and bets, and as we heard here, we have self-exclusion. While it may seem counterintuitive for a gambling platform to offer services that encourage users to gamble less, it can actually be a wise move in the long run. By promoting responsible gambling practices and providing resources for those who want to cut back or quit altogether, a company can build a reputation for being socially responsible and prioritize the well-being of its users.

That's the reality, only yourself can totally stop from this habit.
There is self-exclusion program already from casinos. I believe, that's the closest program that they can offer for the gambler to stop his addiction.
But I have read here in this forum, that some are still breaking their self-exclusion because they still try to log in on the site.
There's also a disclaimer about gambling responsibly on most sites, however, as you said, it is on the person himself how he will contain himself on this activity.
The gambling site has very limited action on this matter, they can only help a gambler to some extent, but the real work will be on the user himself.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Mahanton on March 10, 2023, 10:28:00 PM
For me, no one can stop it except yourself.
But if there is --it could be these services, counseling, self-exclusion programs, and limits on deposits and bets, and as we heard here, we have self-exclusion. While it may seem counterintuitive for a gambling platform to offer services that encourage users to gamble less, it can actually be a wise move in the long run. By promoting responsible gambling practices and providing resources for those who want to cut back or quit altogether, a company can build a reputation for being socially responsible and prioritize the well-being of its users.

That's the reality, only yourself can totally stop from this habit.
There is self-exclusion program already from casinos. I believe, that's the closest program that they can offer for the gambler to stop his addiction.
But I have read here in this forum, that some are still breaking their self-exclusion because they still try to log in on the site.
There's also a disclaimer about gambling responsibly on most sites, however, as you said, it is on the person himself how he will contain himself on this activity.
The gambling site has very limited action on this matter, they can only help a gambler to some extent, but the real work will be on the user himself.
It would really be useless out of those features of those gambling companies like self exclusion or deactivating your account or cancelling it out because we know on how easy or simply on making a new
gambling account which it is pointless on having these things if you yourself doesnt really be able to get rid about addiction.It would really be still that a certain person would really be going back
again and play.So its useless on having these kind of help or program on making a certain gambler do stop gambling.Although it might succeed on blocking it out on a specific site but
we know that we do have thousands of platforms which is available.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: n0ne on March 10, 2023, 10:31:43 PM
You could see the statement, Smoking is injurious to health on the Cigarette packs. What for is the statement, I haven't heard of any person quit smoking reading those statements. It is completely based on self interest, one needs to decide himself and go for the alternate using a chewing gum or something that to avoid the particular time period. With gambling same is the scenario, the user needs to have the self realisation and take necessary measures, then only he/she can get rid of addiction.

The gambling platforms have got features that lets us stay away from gambling. Using that alone and getting out of addiction is not at all possible. The user have to fix to certain principles and get diverted when some thoughts to gamble arises.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: seoincorporation on March 10, 2023, 10:39:57 PM
Some casinos offer the option to block ourselves from the platform for a period of time, and I would say 95% of the casinos have in the footer a link to "Responsible Gambling", that sends us to a site that offers help people who have gambling problems.

But in the end, casinos want to make us addictive, while the more we lose is better for them, that's how that business works, and each time a user starts working with his addiction that represents losses for the business.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: livingfree on March 10, 2023, 10:48:48 PM
That's self exclusion and most casinos these days have it and that's to help the addicted gamblers control them but the question is, if they're really being used by those that have severe gambling addiction?

I don't think so, we still see reports about gambling addicts spending that much and even coming to the point that they're no longer sleeping and selling stuff that they own so they can gamble again just after their losses.

It's a mental problem that needs to be addressed and there's more to it aside from just having that feature of self exclusion by which is the step that the casinos are providing.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: PX-Z on March 10, 2023, 10:57:34 PM
Most trusted casino have responsible gambling messages and warning, articles and even self-exclusions. There is no way gambling sites can't detect their user if already addict, but i guess it might be possible based on their gambling activity if will be studied thoroughly. But before that, users should be responsible and only self-exclusions can help. I guess this is the the platforms way to help gambling addicts on their platform based on some existing laws regarding responsible gambling internationally.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: ultrloa on March 10, 2023, 10:57:49 PM
Its the willingness of people to quit or get out on addiction and besides there are professional help already available if they really want to get help. This service is not needed because if you only give advices to the addicted gambler it will not give good result as the person affected might go back to gambling. There's proper rehabilitation and medication towards that and also it needs the participation of the person to make this escape to addiction became successful.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: coin-investor on March 10, 2023, 11:04:34 PM

I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?

Many casinos are already implementing this, one of which is Stake.com and I don't think gambling sites will harm their profit because not all of their players are compulsive gamblers and they are more than willing to help compulsive gamblers by having a self-exclusion, if the casino you're playing do not have this then its time for their players like you to ask to also implement this.
Many regulators ask casinos located in their region to implement self-exclusion its not 100% guaranteed to help gamblers but restriction can help them minimize gambling.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Wakate on March 10, 2023, 11:10:10 PM
I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?
For me, I have never seen something like this before and I hope a casinos one day will ask me not to gamble again that I am becoming addicted to gambling. This would be nice and interesting if gambling platforms would consider us and help us when we are becoming addictive to gambling.

Since the main reasons of establishing a casino is to make money, so why would a casinos ask his customer to stop gambling that they are becoming addictive to it. They would not care about that rather to see us gambling and losing our bankroll.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 10, 2023, 11:32:43 PM
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I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?

I doubt that gambling companies would implement ways in order to minimize people from trying their services. At the end of the day, gambling is a business in which the owners are inclined to profit. If they truly want to create movements in order to minimize people from using their services, it is like limiting themselves from profiting.

The only way that I see this working is when the government orders or implements a law compelling these casinos to add a limitation on the betting. Though I highly doubt that this would happen since gambling also brings revenue to the government in return. So in a way, you are actually limiting the budget of the government, which is not a good idea.

There is a difficult line to draw in balancing the interests of the owner/government and the welfare of the people. I do think that changes must be made in order to address the problems with gambling addiction.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: makishart on March 10, 2023, 11:34:59 PM
To be honest if none was forcing them to be addict with gambling. They were making it by themselves to be addict with gambling. You have been agree by doing gamble if any risk will be at you. I think that anyone has responsibility over their addiction to the gambling. Some people may able not to be addicted to it and some did it. it's all depends on the personality. It's not all of people being addicted as long as they can control their emotion and used it for the entertaining purpose.

I guess that if those addictive people used it to gamble with their life and they gave everything they own to speculate if they can doubled or tripled it in a night. None forced them to be addictive and they were being addicted by themselves.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on March 10, 2023, 11:44:59 PM
The question is, how can a casino know that they have a customer who is a gambling addict? I don't think casinos take note of how often a user loses money on bets, but if they do, they will still be glad they are making money. Even if this feature is added to casinos, which I think is very impossible, users will still find it difficult to stop because it can only take discipline and determination to stop what they have been addicted to. I am not a smoker, but I think smoking and gambling have different urges and drives. The gambling urge makes the person want to gamble more; the moment when they think they should not gamble is when they begin to contemplate that it may be the moment they can win. The urge is more serious in gambling addiction than smoking.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Fatunad on March 10, 2023, 11:52:57 PM
The question is, how can a casino know that they have a customer who is a gambling addict? I don't think casinos take note of how often a user loses money on bets, but if they do, they will still be glad they are making money. Even if this feature is added to casinos, which I think is very impossible, users will still find it difficult to stop because it can only take discipline and determination to stop what they have been addicted to. I am not a smoker, but I think smoking and gambling have different urges and drives. The gambling urge makes the person want to gamble more; the moment when they think they should not gamble is when they begin to contemplate that it may be the moment they can win. The urge is more serious in gambling addiction than smoking.
There's no way on detecting that because betting on huge or having big wagers doesnt always indicate that a certain user is already that addicted to gambling and thats why they would really just
letting a user to continue on what they are doing and there's no way that you could be able to point out that a certain user is already that addicted.
They would really be just giving out those kind of restrictions if a user would really be requesting for some self exclusion which is really that a common thing to be seen
on some top gambling sites which you could make your account get blocked on a period of time.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: dothebeats on March 10, 2023, 11:55:15 PM
The question is, how can a casino know that they have a customer who is a gambling addict? I don't think casinos take note of how often a user loses money on bets, but if they do, they will still be glad they are making money. Even if this feature is added to casinos, which I think is very impossible, users will still find it difficult to stop because it can only take discipline and determination to stop what they have been addicted to. I am not a smoker, but I think smoking and gambling have different urges and drives. The gambling urge makes the person want to gamble more; the moment when they think they should not gamble is when they begin to contemplate that it may be the moment they can win. The urge is more serious in gambling addiction than smoking.

Most of them do, and that's how they actually customize their bonuses and rewards to those high spenders and those with bigger losses. They have the capacity, the capability, and the resources to hand out those warnings or friendly advices to people that are losing a lot in gambling, so why don't they? They just have to do a little coding and a little push to make things possible -- if they're serious about it, that is.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: irhact on March 10, 2023, 11:58:43 PM

Gambling platforms are just after their money and don't care what happened to their customers, this can be felt by how the gambling platforms operate. They're always interested in carrying out service that encourage more gamblers to use their platforms instead of knowing how their customers are doing. You can't blame them though because they aren't met to be responsible for the wellbeing of their customers, this customers are supposed to take care of themselves.

This platform are just carrying out a service as such aren't liable to the negative effect of that service. They're more worst service than providing a gambling platform for gamblers so it isn't like this guys are doing the worst thing on earth. They shouldn't be judged just because few people can't control their addition.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: alegotardo on March 11, 2023, 01:39:13 AM
What do you think about this?

I am not aware of any site that has this control effectively and there are several reasons for this.
First, it's obviously because it could reduce the site's profit, something no platform would like.
Second, that blocking would have to be customized for each player's profile. How would that be defined? Could they let the player himself set his limits?
Third because the player could have more than one account on the same site or simply go to another site when he reaches the limit of money or time spent.

I think that control initiatives should come exclusively from the players, as long as they create these limits and enforce them.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 11, 2023, 02:58:24 AM
every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up/
Do you think the smokers will use this service? even they wan to quit, they need to spend more money for counseling and guidance, most people think it's better to quit using their own way, but in the end they will keep smoking.

Same like self exclusion feature in casino, the addict can use that's feature and can't gamble on that's casino. But it doesn't stop him to create a new account on the other casino. After all it doesn't really help the addict.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Darker45 on March 11, 2023, 03:06:55 AM
If a gambler has already reached a certain level of addiction in which he/she is already forced to sell properties in order to satisfy his/her gambling urge, I'm afraid self-exclusion and other in-built features of casinos won't be able to stop him/her. In the first place, he/she won't even use it. If he/she hasn't even managed to stop himself/herself from selling properties just for gambling, I doubt he/she is able to voluntarily exclude himself/herself from gambling. Professional help is badly needed at this point.

But, yes, there is this feature already in many casinos. I just don't know how effective it is.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: wxa7115 on March 11, 2023, 04:56:34 AM
I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?
It seems you want something similar to alcoholics anonymous to be created am I right? It turns out that it already exists and it is called gamblers anonymous.

Instead of creating yet another association it could be better for casinos to donate directly to gamblers anonymous so more gamblers can be reached and be helped by them, however make no mistake, it does not matter how much money is spent on this, addicted people need to take the first step and admit they have a problem, and unfortunately there are many gamblers out there unwilling or incapable of doing so.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: noormcs5 on March 11, 2023, 05:05:40 AM
I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?

Your point is valid and should be implemented in the best interest of the gamblers but I would say that why would gambling sites want to safeguard the interest of the gamblers? They would want more and more gamblers to become addicted to gambling and in return get rekt and the gambling platforms become rich, Isn't right?

Gamblers need to educate themselves on how to control excessive gambling and how to save their capital. No gambling site will ever come to their rescue.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: acroman08 on March 11, 2023, 06:53:52 AM
I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?
a lot of gambling sites I know have a "self-exclusion" feature on their website, what this means is that if the gambler decided to apply for self-exclusion, the gambling site will restrict their account for a fixed amount of time that the gambler chose. the gambler can even choose to permanently close their account if they wanted to.

as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
the only thing a cigarette company do that I have seen is put disturbing images of the effects of long-term smoking, I've heard of them offering smokers counselling or guidance.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: slapper on March 11, 2023, 08:04:34 AM
I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?
It seems you want something similar to alcoholics anonymous to be created am I right? It turns out that it already exists and it is called gamblers anonymous.

Instead of creating yet another association it could be better for casinos to donate directly to gamblers anonymous so more gamblers can be reached and be helped by them, however make no mistake, it does not matter how much money is spent on this, addicted people need to take the first step and admit they have a problem, and unfortunately there are many gamblers out there unwilling or incapable of doing so.
Oh, my word! Would you believe it, even the wisest of feathered friends, the owls, could potentially succumb to the vice of gambling. It's an undeniable truth! However, it's a relief to know that there are esteemed organizations such as Gamblers Anonymous that extend their aid to those grappling with addiction. Sure, there may be an argument in favor of casinos contributing to these selfless groups, but we must bear in mind that it ultimately comes down to the person in question to take the initiative towards recovery. We often say that you can guide a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink...or, in this case, refrain from gambling. I do not jest when I say that addiction is a weighty issue, and I sincerely wish for anyone seeking assistance to discover it.



Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Bitinity on March 11, 2023, 09:43:23 AM
Does it really help them? No, and I don't think they need to do that just for the sake of stopping people from becoming a gambling addict. Instead, they keep encouraging people to gamble on their site and enjoy themselves.

Honestly, being addicted to gambling is not about the site, it is about losing control of ourselves. Though they are saying just gamble moderately but in the case of addiction, they have nothing to do with that but to let them play, instead of stopping them.

Valid points, quitting from addiction should come from the gamblers themselves. The casinos may give gamblers some features to help but it wont really help if the addicted gamblers have no will to stop, those features will be useless. I think I've said many times in several other different thread that even a professional help will be useless to help addicted gamblers to stop if the gamblers have no serious will to stop.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: piebeyb on March 11, 2023, 09:54:16 AM
I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?
gambling platform if it provides that service then who will gamble and give money to gambling, it reminds me of the telephone service to quit smoking addiction. to be honest it doesn't produce anything even I call it all the time but never get an answer, finally I quit smoking by myself, since then I think I don't need any service to quit addiction whether it's gambling or cigarettes, it all has to be from will yourself and also change your mindset to be healthier.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: bitbollo on March 11, 2023, 09:57:43 AM
Like any other addiction, a gambler will find a new place for his bad habits or a method to place bets.
At least here in Italy, you can place bets in physical bookmakers without providing any documents.
There is nothing that could really avoid people from betting using cash. And I am not counting "black market" of gambling...
I will suggest to people to people with gambling
issues, use service like this https://www.gamblingtherapy.org/
Its much better solve problems at roots!


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: maydna on March 11, 2023, 10:21:30 AM
Gambling platforms can provide a stop gambling service, but if gamblers do not want it, they will not use it and may even continue gambling. Quitting gambling is the desire of every gambler, and only gamblers can be sure that they really want to stop gambling once and for all.

And I don't think it will backfire on the gambling platform because that choice will return to each gambler. But if some gamblers finally decide to use the service, the casinos also don't do anything. Still, new people will play gambling and take the previous vacancies.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Kakmakr on March 11, 2023, 11:03:12 AM
A lot of gambling sites does offer a "self-exclusion" feature, but that is not nearly enough to stop a gambler from creating another account or to create an account at other casinos. So, when you do this at some Brick n mortar casinos, the CCTV will use face recognition to detect you.. and you will be asked to leave the building.

Some sites do not even have KYC requirements, so they cannot stop you ..even if they wanted to... and other sites will block your account, but they still send promotional emails to your email address.  ::)


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: pawanjain on March 11, 2023, 11:15:45 AM
If gambling sites start a stop gambling service then it would directly impact their business.
They wouldn't want their customers getting away while they are in for the profits.
Cigarette boxes have those helpline numbers because it is mandatory for them to put it on the boxes as a regulatory compliance.
But it doesn't get applicable on gambling casinos. But yeah if the regulatory authorities do implement such a policy where every gambling site has to put up helpline numbers to quit gambling then it would be a great idea.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Oasisman on March 11, 2023, 11:23:06 AM
I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?

Do you really think those services from tobacco companies are gonna work? I'm not sure either, but I don't think it'll work. Those services were created just for the "extra mile" so people would think that these companies doesn't look really really bad at all. It's funny coz even in the cigarette packs, they have these campaign that says cigarette smoking is dangerous to your health and throw some graphics of a sick person. It's really funny coz that's not even gonna work lol.
I thought the same goes for gambling. The only thing that'll work 100% is when a person decides to stop gambling on his own.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: decodx on March 11, 2023, 12:44:30 PM
I believe that gambling platforms can provide a stop gambling service, but ultimately it is up to the gambler to take advantage of it. Quitting gambling is a personal decision, and if a gambler is not truly committed to stopping, they may continue to gamble despite the service being available. As for the idea of gambling sites being required to provide a helpline for quitting gambling, it is possible that regulatory authorities could implement such a policy in the future, if they have not done so already. (I am not familiar with all gambling regulations around the world.) I agree that it may not be effective for everyone. However, it does provide an additional option for those who are trying to quit.

In the end, it's really up to the person to decide to stop gambling. I personally believe that for those who struggle with severe gambling issues, seeking assistance from their loved ones and professionals in the field can be more effective than relying on legal regulations.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: len01 on March 11, 2023, 02:42:10 PM
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What do you think about this?
quite simple as you said about smoking cessation services but in the end more and more people are smoking. so that if gambling has a stop gambling service, it may also be ignored. because the only one who can stop gambling addiction is himself.

another opinion from me is that the gambling business is one of the businesses that wants to profit from its customers who bet on the gambling. In fact, on several gambling sites it has also been advised to gamble responsibly using money that you can afford to lose and not to be too addicted to sacrificing valuables for gambling.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: bangjoe on March 11, 2023, 04:02:16 PM
every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up/
Do you think the smokers will use this service? even they wan to quit, they need to spend more money for counseling and guidance, most people think it's better to quit using their own way, but in the end they will keep smoking.

I have seen for myself that there are some people who are successful through services like this to quit smoking, although yes, many are not successful because it all comes back to the smoker/back to himself, as well as in gambling, but sometimes humans need encouragement from outside to get what he wants. and most people also can't do that because they don't really want to quit and or the gambler ignores what is suggested.

Your point is valid and should be implemented in the best interest of the gamblers but I would say that why would gambling sites want to safeguard the interest of the gamblers? They would want more and more gamblers to become addicted to gambling and in return get rekt and the gambling platforms become rich, Isn't right?

Yes, that's the nature of business people and it's a natural thing to get more profits, but reconsider if there are casinos that have services like that, won't they get more positive feedback from gamblers for having these services, and maybe if gambling is banned in an area by the government, I think there will be reconsideration because gambling platforms care about their customers and will definitely get positive support.
I am a gambler myself, as far as I visited many platforms during this time, I prefer to play on Stake because it has such a service, in the sense that they care about me as a gambler on their platform.
And when it's time for me to feel too addicted to gambling, then I want to stop and there is a service like that I will definitely try it for my steps to stop gambling.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Fortify on March 11, 2023, 04:15:08 PM
I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?

By responsible gambling company should be made to comply with effective self exclusion mechanisms and it's unfortunate that such pressure cannot be applied consistently to them in every country around the world. A proper self exclusion program should have options as high as 1 year or even 5. A problem gambler really is a detriment to society and no company should allow someone to create such a destructive situation for themselves.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: molsewid on March 11, 2023, 04:51:06 PM
quite simple as you said about smoking cessation services but in the end more and more people are smoking. so that if gambling has a stop gambling service, it may also be ignored. because the only one who can stop gambling addiction is himself.

another opinion from me is that the gambling business is one of the businesses that wants to profit from its customers who bet on the gambling. In fact, on several gambling sites it has also been advised to gamble responsibly using money that you can afford to lose and not to be too addicted to sacrificing valuables for gambling.
Indeed, no matter how will his environment change or even if a certain casino might create a plan for them if they want to gamble and gamble without limits it would be bad for them. Yes, OP's idea is possible but the thing is  certain thing can affects us but the final decision and the action will be from us. If we want to go beyond our limits then it would be bad for us, if we do not limit ourselves.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: madnessteat on March 11, 2023, 05:49:41 PM
I wouldn't pin my hopes on the fact that casinos will help gambling addicts overcome their addiction because it's not a logical decision at all.

If someone needs to get rid of a gambling addiction, he'd better go to a professional and forget about gambling at least for a while and not look for support in a casino.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: serjent05 on March 11, 2023, 06:38:44 PM
What do you think about this?

Gambling had already services like this.  They even have a page dedicated to responsible gambling.  They have self-exclusion but I do not think it is enough since a player needs to voluntarily apply for it.  I do not think a casino will make a rule where they will force a player to stop gambling because it is not their right to stop them.  All they can do is remind the gambler sabout their situation and losses.  I also noticed that some gambling platform have timer that notify a player that they are playing for an hour or two, and temporarily paused the game waiting for the player's decision to continue or not.

I wouldn't pin my hopes on the fact that casinos will help gambling addicts overcome their addiction because it's not a logical decision at all.

If someone needs to get rid of a gambling addiction, he'd better go to a professional and forget about gambling at least for a while and not look for support in a casino.

I do think that gambling platforms can only remind its player to overcome gambling addiction, I don't think gambling platforms have the power to do it but only the player.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: virasisog on March 11, 2023, 07:24:15 PM
I wouldn't pin my hopes on the fact that casinos will help gambling addicts overcome their addiction because it's not a logical decision at all.

If someone needs to get rid of a gambling addiction, he'd better go to a professional and forget about gambling at least for a while and not look for support in a casino.

Gambling addiction couldn't easily be stopped or healed through stop-gambling services and programs. Also, that's not a job and responsibility of a gambling casino and their focus is to keep their business running. If a person is experiencing compulsive gambling, advice will not work for the person anymore. He needs to undergo professional treatment or through a rehabilitation program. We can't expect casinos to focus on controlling gambling addiction though it's a good thing that some casinos are giving reminders to gamble responsibly.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: rahmad2nd on March 11, 2023, 07:32:47 PM
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?

Do you mean like a counseling service to help gambler addicts provided by gambling platforms, isn't this something that is contrary to the business they run. so, I'm not sure about this idea. however, even if it were available, would it appeal to gambling addicts. Also, how big is the percentage of addicts who want to get rid of their gambling habit.

whereas, there is something simpler and easier, that almost every online casino has a self-exclusion feature. but, actually the problem is in the gambling addict himself. because most gambling addicts have difficulty eliminating their desire to gamble. well, so in essence, how does the addict gambler overcome himself. we know very well, that not everyone can handle it alone. most gamblers who are already conclusive gamblers, at least really need help. but on condition, has the intention to recover, but if there is no intention and determination, then he will still be a gambling addict. at least, the first step is to talk about it with the closest people, family for example, then find a solution to get rid of addiction.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Issa56 on March 11, 2023, 08:06:37 PM
Lots of people are have gambling addiction problem, some of them start gambling just for fun, but at the end they always end up being addicted and its always difficult for addicted gamblers to stop gambling. I believe gambling site  won't implement the kind of futures which you just mentioned, gambling site are making there money and what they even want is that there customers should be losing so that they will be making money, and even with the service addicted gambler will still find it very difficult to stop gambling, and the more you lose money, the more gambling sites are making money.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: harizen on March 11, 2023, 08:25:30 PM
If gambling sites start a stop gambling service then it would directly impact their business.
They wouldn't want their customers getting away while they are in for the profits.

I don't think it will affect their business.

Those users who will put themselves on a self-exclusion program might be just 0.001% of the whole gamblers that are using the site (don't take the percentage seriously as I just used it as a figure of speech). Adding to that, we are not talking about whales here. Most whales know what they're doing that's why they reached the stage of being a whale.

Those are the loyal customers that needed to keep and not those who will stop, from what I view it.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: stomachgrowls on March 11, 2023, 08:46:50 PM
If gambling sites start a stop gambling service then it would directly impact their business.
They wouldn't want their customers getting away while they are in for the profits.

I don't think it will affect their business.

Those users who will put themselves on a self-exclusion program might be just 0.001% of the whole gamblers that are using the site (don't take the percentage seriously as I just used it as a figure of speech). Adding to that, we are not talking about whales here. Most whales know what they're doing that's why they reached the stage of being a whale.

Those are the loyal customers that needed to keep and not those who will stop, from what I view it.
When it comes to actual numbers then for sure people would really be less into those who do really make use of those self exclusion features and when it comes to success rate for a gambler to completely
stop isnt guaranteed considering that to those who had decided to exclude out themselves is that they could still easily play if they wanted to and this is why its somewhat useless if you do ask me.

I agree on most points on here that this is really just looks like some sort of showing concern into their gamblers but in behind they are really that happy that they are spending too much
money into their platforms which we know this is where they do make money.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: wiss19 on March 11, 2023, 08:59:08 PM
I think they are great and seeing them on a gambling platform that we are playing can mean that the operators behind it do also cares about their customer as much as they care about making money on this business.

If we think we are starting to get addicted, we can always talk to their customer support and they will give us advices. One of it is they will close our account either for temporary or permanently. I know it is still possible for us to create another account or play on other websites but it's up to us if we are not really committed on changing ourselves for the better. If the addiction is too strong, we can seek out professional help outside/offline.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: crzy on March 11, 2023, 09:05:52 PM
Lots of people are have gambling addiction problem, some of them start gambling just for fun, but at the end they always end up being addicted and its always difficult for addicted gamblers to stop gambling. I believe gambling site  won't implement the kind of futures which you just mentioned, gambling site are making there money and what they even want is that there customers should be losing so that they will be making money, and even with the service addicted gambler will still find it very difficult to stop gambling, and the more you lose money, the more gambling sites are making money.
Some site are concern about the well-being of their players, and some have this kind of feature called responsible gambler, so I think some site are not that greedy because of they let their players to get more addicted, at the end they are still the one to be affected on this as well. You can ask the site to exclude you already and I think this is already happening on many site depends on how you will ask this to them.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: goinmerry on March 11, 2023, 09:12:58 PM
Not that bad for a gambling company to implement such a service to help gamblers minimize or lessen their gambling activity.

Although I just wonder if there are really gamblers that will consider being in service to control their gambling addiction.

Those said users will just stop using that site but just by simply browsing the web, lots of gambling sites around to attract them to play again.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Hispo on March 11, 2023, 09:18:05 PM
Well, to be honest it is the first time I have read about this, specially the example you provide about tobacco companies offering counseling to their clients who are aware they have got a problem. That is not a thing here, in my country if you are addicted to either alcohol, cigarettes or gambling then the laws assumes it is completely your responsibility (because you are adult, etc) and does not demand companies to have those programs.

In the end, those initiatives are carried out by non-profit organizations and the government.



Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: dothebeats on March 11, 2023, 09:18:43 PM
Gambling platforms can provide a stop gambling service, but if gamblers do not want it, they will not use it and may even continue gambling. Quitting gambling is the desire of every gambler, and only gamblers can be sure that they really want to stop gambling once and for all.

And I don't think it will backfire on the gambling platform because that choice will return to each gambler. But if some gamblers finally decide to use the service, the casinos also don't do anything. Still, new people will play gambling and take the previous vacancies.

True. The end result will always be on the gambler's side and not the platform, but it's nice to have these stop gambling feature in the platform if in case the gambler wants to stop what he/she's doing and really make a difference on his/her habits and whatnot. It won't really hurt the platform, and in fact it might even be a reason for some gamblers to transfer to the casino just because they have this thing that they think benefits the gamblers the most. Pro-gambler platforms are always liked upon and supported by a lot of people, even though it's just a front and in reality, the platform still profits a lot from these same gamblers that supports them.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Viscore on March 11, 2023, 09:24:22 PM
Does it really help them? No, and I don't think they need to do that just for the sake of stopping people from becoming a gambling addict. Instead, they keep encouraging people to gamble on their site and enjoy themselves.

Honestly, being addicted to gambling is not about the site, it is about losing control of ourselves. Though they are saying just gamble moderately but in the case of addiction, they have nothing to do with that but to let them play, instead of stopping them.
Gambling addiction is certainly a choice. If you see yourself experiencing it, then you should be responsible enough to stop gambling and avoid gambling at all cost. And not that gambling sites are given responsibility to stop them because honestly, it will definitely not work. Gambling casinos are designed to make money from gamblers, and not that they should stop them from playing whenever they have lose huge amount from gambling. If gamblers will chose to continue gamble and lose their money, that’s already their problem and not on the casinos.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: passwordnow on March 11, 2023, 09:27:19 PM
Although I just wonder if there are really gamblers that will consider being in service to control their gambling addiction.

Those said users will just stop using that site but just by simply browsing the web, lots of gambling sites around to attract them to play again.
IIRC, there really are a number of gamblers that are wanting that. Since they don't know where and how to start, the casino's actions are pretty much of a help to them.
Temptations are there and they can't help themselves but also coming from the combination of help from the casinos like self exclusion and with positive mental attitude of a gambler, that will come as a great help to what they want to happen and that will certainly make a difference from where they're coming from before.


Title: Re: What do you think about stop gambling services issued by gambling platforms?
Post by: Asiska02 on March 11, 2023, 09:34:25 PM
Gambling is similar to a passion that you can't live without once you've discovered it. Advertising stop gambling services will not help those who are already deeply involved in it because they see it as a way of life and believe it is normal to gamble. Making gamblers aware of the consequences of excessive gambling can be beneficial to those gamblers, but greed is ingrained in humans and cannot be removed. There is no point in attempting to extinguish a light by applying fuel to it; this will only increase the risk. It is commendable that such information is being deployed, but I doubt it will have any effect on gamblers.