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March 10, 2023, 03:58:29 PM
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I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?

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March 10, 2023, 04:18:21 PM
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If there is such service, do not be surprised if it would not backfire on gambling sites because gambling is just in nature of humans.

There are some gambling sites that have articles that can help gamblers, notifying them when to stop gamble, they do notify gamblers in their gambling site. But I do not know if some gamblers that are getting addicted are reading it or not.

Also is self-exclusion.

But the best help a gambler can get is to self-discipline himself and know the truth that he can not gamble to make money, and to realize how greedy he is becoming to earn from gamblers sites. Also if family member noticed, self-exclusion and rehabilitation is indeed necessary.

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March 10, 2023, 04:27:11 PM
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Does it really help them? No, and I don't think they need to do that just for the sake of stopping people from becoming a gambling addict. Instead, they keep encouraging people to gamble on their site and enjoy themselves.

Honestly, being addicted to gambling is not about the site, it is about losing control of ourselves. Though they are saying just gamble moderately but in the case of addiction, they have nothing to do with that but to let them play, instead of stopping them.

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March 10, 2023, 04:29:47 PM
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I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?
Hmmm,  I don't know if it is possible but i think it is not. Given that casinos are made for gamblers to play and play there's no rule that they have that limitations to the amount they are going to bet. I am not being a judgmental but they are only after the money,gamblers should be accountable for their own actions, we should limits ourselves I know it is very easy to say but hard to do but we badly needed it,in order for us not to fall for addictions.
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March 10, 2023, 04:32:24 PM
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Self exclusion if that’s what you implying on stop gambling services won’t backfire on the casino because only few choose to activate this feature and most of them already lose their life savings so no more money for them to be given on the casino.

Casino use this feature to help those players that already spend a lot of money in the casino to stop ruining their life so that they can come back again whenever they are back to normal. Casino preferred a long term normal customer rather than a one time big time problematic customer.

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March 10, 2023, 04:39:43 PM
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I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble.

I don't expect you to generalized issues that are for personal reasons like this one, how can the entire gambling casinos be out on a pause because of some few unconscious gamblers who were too addicted to gambling and of course i believe their addiction may not only ends with gambling alone, that's their kind of lifestyle they have chosen.

I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.

Try them in other aspects of life as well and you will still get same and worse results about them, addiction begins from lack of being disciplined in anything one does.

In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble

They can't because that's where they make their own money from, ask every gambler they will tell you that they know that gambling involves taking risk, yet they take it and enjoy the services and fun, everyone knows that ciggerate is bad for health yet people smoke it including children, government raises alot of campaign against it yet people abuse it, we have this freedom to do whatever we like with our lives but the aftermath is what some don't like seeing.

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March 10, 2023, 04:45:34 PM
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I don't think I have seen or heard of such service but, i know that casinos can write tips on how to go about on your gambling lives. In everything we do in life,it is our choice to determine if we want to stop gambling or not. We have the ability to control ourselves on any bad habit that has eaten us up.

An addicted gambler needs to stay away from gambling or should go on rehab so that this habit can be gotten rid of. This best way is self exclusion, gambling should be seen as a entertainment in order for easy control. Casinos are after their business and might not want to have such service.

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March 10, 2023, 04:50:34 PM
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I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?

It is just another way to promote their business imo.

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March 10, 2023, 04:56:08 PM
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In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.


This is a different situation IMO. Cigarette disclaimer is concerning health directly but gambling isn't even though a gambler can get depressed and cause another thing to happen to them but that is extraneous event not directly causing harm to health and I think that is why the tobacco companies are regulated by law to always informed smokers the danger of their products to their health.

Having said the above, gambling is strictly for the purpose of business to both giver and receiver, in this extent the bettor and the owner of the casino respectively. So the owner is out to make profit likewise the bettor playing to outsmart the owner of the business for his own profit. Therefore I think making such kind of publicity on addiction may mean the owner shooting himself on the foot.

Moreover, if that was to be done, it would have been easier to limit the number of times an account is allowed to bet in a particular casino at least to help bettors not to be an addict  Grin Addiction is a personal responsibility and an addict should get help through people around.

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March 10, 2023, 05:20:43 PM
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To be candid, i do not see this as a good idea because you cannot stop others who are gambling for fun or those who are earning heavily from gambling just because of some other persons addiction or loosing in gambling. I strongly believe that whoever that is addicted to gambling and wishes to quit will definitely quit personally without his actions to quit affecting others. We all know that one man's food is another mans poison. Definitely it will affect gambling platform because a lot of persons will not see good reason to gamble. Self discipline is one major way to quit gambling. I disagree with this idea.

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March 10, 2023, 05:50:26 PM
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I often see gamblers who are addicted and he can't get rid of the addiction, so the gambler sells what he has to gamble. I am well aware of the dangers of gambling addiction because what is meant by that is gambling, which they do is no longer for pleasure but for the sake of victory and greed and for some people they cannot control their gambling.
In this case is it possible for gambling platforms to provide stop gambling services to help gamblers reduce their desire to gamble, as in the context of cigarettes, every tobacco company always provides smoking cessation services either by telephone, clients who want to quit smoking can be given counseling and guidance, as well as referrals if you need follow up.
I think how if the Platform/gambling company has a stop gambling service that is very good and helps gamblers who want to stop.
I know this will backfire on the gambling platform, but in retrospect, if this is implemented, it is a so wise move.

What do you think about this?

If such any service actually exists then I highly doubt that the service will be offered by a casino or casino investors. In fact, the casino owners would probably protest such a service because it would ruin their profits. Like it or not, the truth is that a lot of a casinos profits are made from people who have a gambling problem. If you take those people away, the casino loses a lot of money. So I don't doubt they would lobby against it.

So your idea is a bit unrealistic.

But as far as the service itself is concerned, I think such a service would be a very good idea to help people get away from their gambling addictions.

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March 10, 2023, 06:01:02 PM
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It's not about things from the outside, but it comes back to yourself, as you said they play to win not to have fun. Even those who have been ruined by their gambling are still playing to the best of their ability, shouldn't they stop when they are broken? and they realize that all this time they have been playing with the emotion of victory not to fill in the empty time.
I have friends who are very different about this, one plays for fun and the other plays to win. What happened? my friend who plays for fun wins more and my friend who plays to win he always loses, why? because there is emotion there.
So whether there is an advertising service or not it comes back to themselves, and I'm sure their friends also often give advice to stop playing but they don't listen to it, because I saw this myself.

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As the gambler, even we already ask them for closed your account and they do that.

The gambler it self can register again to the site or he playing on other site, sometime even the casino help them to avoid addicted but it's always depends on the gambler it self. Most thing to be effective is to monitoring the gambler by his family.

His family need to take care his activity especially financial spending things, for maybe 6-12 month. Then, we can see the progress of him self after that.

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The self-exclusion wasn't enough since some users who did that to themselves are signing up back again for another casino. We saw some threads about  those users sometimes they even mistakenly deposited some funds to the wallet of an excluded account and came accusing the casino for now allowing them to withdraw the funds.

If it wasn't enough, perhaps the casino can offer to delete thier account when users are trying sell-exclusion. But ofc casino may not do that, its a business.


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If there is such service, do not be surprised if it would not backfire on gambling sites because gambling is just in nature of humans.

There are some gambling sites that have articles that can help gamblers, notifying them when to stop gamble, they do notify gamblers in their gambling site. But I do not know if some gamblers that are getting addicted are reading it or not.

Also is self-exclusion.

But the best help a gambler can get is to self-discipline himself and know the truth that he can not gamble to make money, and to realize how greedy he is becoming to earn from gamblers sites. Also if family member noticed, self-exclusion and rehabilitation is indeed necessary.

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It just hijacks our dopamine system in a way that hooks us
Intermittent rewards are cool but can be really detrimental to our judgement specially when clouded by emotions

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What do you think about this?
It's unlikely to work if the gambler has no initiative to stop gambling.
Smoking cessation services are also not optimal in getting people to quit smoking. Another term for cigarette companies that create smoking services only because they are ordered to do so. However, we do not think that this effort was born from their pure initiative.
That's business. Every business aims to make a profit.

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If gambling services openly provide facilities to stop gambling, then they will lose users significantly. Nobody wants to gamble anymore. To stop gambling is everyone's responsibility, not the responsibility of the casino platform. Casinos only provide places to gamble and they will get huge profits. This is different from cigarette advertisements about warnings given not to smoke, but in fact more and more are smoking. Implementing such a thing is not a good move for the development of the casino, Bandar needs more income. As long as you don't violate the rules and don't manipulate gambling, casinos are the right place for those who aren't greedy.

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I think it's pretty responsible of them. They could've let these addicts pour their bankrolls every day, and profit from the misery these people are slowly subjecting themselves into, but they don't and are choosing to do the right way for the sake of doing it right to protect their customers and provide them with proper help in case. People may say "well it's only the addict who could recognize his wrongdoings and push himself to do better" To that I say, some people never take the leap of faith because no one's pushing them. And this action by casinos to stop gamblers who have gone too far is the push they very much need to give themselves a closer look introspectively and find out what's going on with them.

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March 10, 2023, 06:44:15 PM
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Does it really help them? No, and I don't think they need to do that just for the sake of stopping people from becoming a gambling addict. Instead, they keep encouraging people to gamble on their site and enjoy themselves.

Honestly, being addicted to gambling is not about the site, it is about losing control of ourselves. Though they are saying just gamble moderately but in the case of addiction, they have nothing to do with that but to let them play, instead of stopping them.
Honestly, if the gambling site will do that, they will lost millions of gamblers in the end. That’s why instead of stopping them, they will promote their new games instead so that these gamblers will be even more interested to play more and lose more. Gambling is a business so they will surely do everything just to make their business click and earn a lot of profits from gamblers, just like any other type of business that aim to stay competitive in the market industry.

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Every online casino that I have visited has a section dedicated to fighting gambling addition. When you click on the link, you would find articles and resources that offer direction and advice on how to gamble responsible. In addition, they recommend links to accredited organizations that would help and support a gambler with their addiction. Some of these organizations include,  - GamCare, Keep It Fun, Gambling Therapy. Also any gambler who wishes to restrict gambling contents can do so using https://www.netnanny.com/ or https://www.cyberpatrol.com/.
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