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Title: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Renampun on March 13, 2023, 07:39:42 PM

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this is my friend,, he has 1 child his life is now destroyed in his wife and children..
his daily work he collects used goods then at night he uses them for deposits..
Once, he got 180 million rupiah inherited from his father for rent, but it was used up to play slots, then he got money from selling his mother's jewelry and used it for slots, even worse, he had 4 cows, he sold all 100 million rupiah to play slots too.
now his only assets are a smartphone and a Honda Spacy motorbike (BPKB has been mortgaged). I once asked until when did you live like this, Den (Aden's name)? He replied, until I die I don't care if I want to lose, how can I find money because it's already too deep and I've lost everything, I might as well live like this. I just stroke my chest while watching him play slots, sometimes I give him encouragement and I make fun of him when he buys a spin of 200 thousand rupiahs and returns only 12 thousand rupiahs

I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Oshosondy on March 13, 2023, 07:46:43 PM
I count this somehow to be off-topic, but maybe some people can use this as a medium to know that they should gamble responsibly.

Likely he believes he is going to win a jackpot one day, but the day may never come, or might come. There is nothing like family, better to quite the addiction and go back to them, instead of being someone that family do not trust. If family do not trust someone, that is more that a lot for him to realize and change for better.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: carlfebz2 on March 13, 2023, 08:23:05 PM
I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!
As a friend then it would be normal that you would really be that giving him some advises but if he did reach out this point on where he do sells everything just for playing slots then there's no way on stopping him and those words would really be useless and he wont really be listening to someone.This do really shows off severe or extreme addiction. He would really just realize things when he doesnt really have anything left even the money for him to eat. He would literally be sleeping on the streets without something to eat, no family nor having no shelter. If they wouldn't listen then it is really just that sad on what are the
upcoming consequences he would be facing on.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: panganib999 on March 13, 2023, 09:14:04 PM
Sunk Cost Fallacy, the heuristic that just because you're too deep into whatever you're doing, you have no resolution other than getting your wins back through that method. I would highly suggest you drag him out to a nearby rehab center because he clearly needs it but is just in denial, and have him be treated from his addiction because not only is he ruining his own life, he's also putting his kid's life at the line by being a belligerent father who knows nothing but to gamble. If you're really this guy's good friend, You'd know for sure what to do in this situation, regardless if he hates me for it or whatever. The man's too in denial to admit that he needs help and his statement that he'd stay like that forever because nothing else is waiting for him is just too depressing.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: swogerino on March 13, 2023, 09:24:30 PM
That happens when you are continually losing and you don't release it,that is a big problem which bring a person to an addiction that makes the person go to the brink of total destruction,I say brink of as the person while here still has a chance to turn back and ask for help.The case when the person continues to just gamble and does not care about anything else and he is happy as long as he is gambling,unfortunately these are desperate cases which ends in suicide (God forbid) or destroying the family like the guy in the story here,both endings really bad for a person.That is why it is always advisable to talk to family and ask for help when you release that you are drowning deep down in addiction.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Fatunad on March 13, 2023, 09:57:40 PM
One of the most common scenario no where a gambler could ended up on which they might really be chasing up their losses and trying out to recover it back.This is where desperation would set in
and we know that it isnt something that good for you to aim because it would really be making you desperate.Just like the rest been saying above that a gambler would really be stopping on betting
is on the time that he wont really be having no money on his pocket for him to do so. This is why you should really make yourself that fully aware that you shouldn't really
make yourself reached out that point.Regret do always come at the end.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: ultrloa on March 13, 2023, 10:07:09 PM

I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

If he didn't listen to his family do you think that person will listen to his friend? No for sure he continue what abusive thing he do and ignore the advices given to him coming from other people. For now he don't do crime yet since maybe he still have enough money to use but once he can't control his self and all his money are gone maybe he can think about doing it. To bad his family left him since they can do something like seek for help on health experts and put him on rehab since for sure he will be cured there.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on March 13, 2023, 10:09:35 PM
If he doesn't think he has lost a lot, there is no reason why he would stop gambling. I mean if his situation were caused by gambling losses and it brought him great shame, he would stop, but otherwise, why stop?  The gambling sites or centres don't care if  his wife or family left him or not.  Their ads would continue to air and new users would join.
 It is left for those who see and understand his situation to talk to him and be the encouragement he needs to stop by either helping him secure a job or putting him in an earning job or better still opening his eyes to the importance of moderation and family around.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Slow death on March 13, 2023, 10:13:10 PM
this guy has a living wife and children, so his life is not destroyed yet, and what he should do is stop playing, he should forget about games and when I say that he should forget about games, I'm talking about all games, even this games of phone, computer games, ( I know it's hard to resist not playing call of duty ) but you have to be strong and forget games. the ideal would be for him to be without a phone and computer and anything that has internet access for many months, and move to the countryside, where there is no technology and physical casinos and games. this will make him stop playing

and start to live more interacting with people in the real world, he will start to have things in the real world and he will be able to dedicate himself to his wife and child, while he has a wife and child, his life is still much more important, this son of his needs it, and will continue to need it for many years to come, I hope people value real-world interaction more than gambling


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Baofeng on March 13, 2023, 10:20:43 PM
Very bad decision in my opinion, his mentality though, I somewhat pity this guy, like selling all what he inherited from his parents. Might be worst if he has a family of his own as it will be a big problem because he needs to bring food in the table. If only he will realized what he has doing is wrong, maybe he can change his life for the better. We don't want to hear from his selling everything to gamble until one day he doesn't have any assets and start to live in the streets and begging money for others just to survived.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: dothebeats on March 13, 2023, 10:29:54 PM
That is what I don’t understand too. Losing everything doesn’t mean you have to throw away your hope in the bus too. I’m pretty sure there were a lot of chances for this young man to turn things around but he simply just chose to gamble because he believed that there is no longer any hope for him and his family. Instead of abandoning his gambling activities, he still pursued it believing that it could help them someday. Wrong mentality and obviously, a huge mistake for him to just throw it all away because of a mistake that can be corrected if only he is willing to.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Hydrogen on March 13, 2023, 10:51:00 PM
Gambling addicts believe their only chance in life to make something of themselves and be somebody is through gambling.

What they really need is a 2nd career option. Another hope for earning a decent living, aside from gambling. Many parents encourage their children to acquire vocational skills and a college degree so that they have something to fall back on. In case, their dreams of being a musician or artist do not pan out.

Many gambling addicts have no 2nd option. They believe their only chance for becoming a millionaire is to win the lottery or win a lucky bet. Having no other options in life, makes it very difficult for them to gamble responsibly.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: coin-investor on March 13, 2023, 10:56:23 PM


I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

That's the worse that can happen to any gambler living only to gamble and don't care anymore about the good thing about life, it's probably the lowest low of any gambler, and if you are into this deep no amount of persuasion is enough, he just come to a point that he realized that he needs to stop, and when this happens to be sure you are there to guide him.
Don't give up on your friend yet, if the gambler is that low he is at a point where he will realize that he needs to change either he'll go crazy or find a way or help to get back on his feet just check if you see this sign.



Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Ebede on March 13, 2023, 11:02:58 PM
Gambling is not a skill and been addicted to it is not good, so i can not encourage my own child to participate in gambling , because i know that gambling will profit it nothing, gambling is nothing to show your people the way I'm seeing everything that comes out from it, but i believe that, some people who is on gambling do that for leisure purpose not to get or make money.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: kamvreto on March 13, 2023, 11:07:54 PM
Now maybe he didn't rob or commit a crime to be able to gamble. But when he is addicted and has no money to make for gambling, he will do many things to be able to earn money and gamble. I know the slot gambling application you mean, and it's widely used today. It's very addictive when you are given one win, you want to keep playing without limits. Having a friend like that is a good idea for you to advise, because it will have an impact on his life in the future. want to get the Jackpot, even though they always lose and keep making deposits. Gambling like that will only bring misery to your friends, risk addiction and risk finances. If don't have money to deposit anymore, then the only way to get it is by criminal means or by selling the things you have.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Tumanggor on March 13, 2023, 11:26:30 PM
Sunk Cost Fallacy, the heuristic that just because you're too deep into whatever you're doing, you have no resolution other than getting your wins back through that method. I would highly suggest you drag him out to a nearby rehab center because he clearly needs it but is just in denial, and have him be treated from his addiction because not only is he ruining his own life, he's also putting his kid's life at the line by being a belligerent father who knows nothing but to gamble. If you're really this guy's good friend, You'd know for sure what to do in this situation, regardless if he hates me for it or whatever. The man's too in denial to admit that he needs help and his statement that he'd stay like that forever because nothing else is waiting for him is just too depressing.
it's true, that addict rehabilitation center is the best place for those who are really crazy about gambling and even give up other things just for gambling

I don't have friends who are gambling addicts, but a few years ago there was a friend of mine who was a drug addict and then I advised him to go to a rehabilitation center and luckily now he has recovered from his addiction, however a gambler still has responsibilities in his life, is a fool who forgot his family only for gambling and became a heavy addict


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: libert19 on March 14, 2023, 02:58:20 AM
This is saddening, one of worst stories I have read here.

I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

Of course, I would. But he must be willing to heed advise. Even if I don't have family, I would stay away from such minded people, just to keep myself sane. Never drown in other's misery.






Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on March 14, 2023, 04:00:33 AM
]this is my friend,, he has 1 child his life is now destroyed in his wife and children..
<...>even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble <...>

Well, he won't steal from others, but he has stolen part of the future from his wife and child, and that's why they have left him.

Gambling addicts believe their only chance in life to make something of themselves and be somebody is through gambling.

What they really need is a 2nd career option. Another hope for earning a decent living, aside from gambling. Many parents encourage their children to acquire vocational skills and a college degree so that they have something to fall back on. In case, their dreams of being a musician or artist do not pan out.

Many gambling addicts have no 2nd option. They believe their only chance for becoming a millionaire is to win the lottery or win a lucky bet. Having no other options in life, makes it very difficult for them to gamble responsibly.

I think you are quite right on this. Many people who have this kind of problem with gambling are from poor backgrounds, with few qualifications to work, who are unhappy with their lives, mainly because of the economic component, and see gambling as a possible way out, but which in reality ends up being a problem. It is no coincidence that there are considerably more gambling dens per square metre in poor neighbourhoods than in rich neighbourhoods. But I wouldn't take all the blame off him and consider him a victim. There is a component of personal responsibility, and by no means all people in his situation end up behaving like that.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: piebeyb on March 14, 2023, 04:26:26 AM
He's already such a heavy addict that it's a little hard to stop him unless someone with expertise in this might be able to stop him I think he will also quit eventually when he does run out of money overall but don't let that happen there's still time to find someone expert to stop it, this is a lesson for beginners to gamble according to their ability to lose money, so that when you lose you don't have to chase losses, you should limit your daily budget so that you don't like this, gamble wisely and responsibly  ;)


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Cantsay on March 14, 2023, 06:21:56 AM
Geez, this is not what you need others to make a decision for, as long as he is an addict and this addiction of his has affected him in a bad way then you prolly should start advising him to quit or get an expert to assist you in convincing him to quit gambling because if he should continue more damage will be done and before you know it he might even pick up the act of stealing all because he needs cash to gamble.
I just hope your efforts to get him to stop gambling works because this story of his is heartbreaking indeed.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: LogitechMouse on March 14, 2023, 06:36:43 AM
I feel pity for this guy that the OP has posted, and I wish that he learned a lesson from his losses... but he doesn't and he still wanted to continue to play slots. A very unfortunate turn of events for that guy. He got money from his father, but instead of using it for their own good, he used it for his own good thru playing slots. He sold everything as well just to play slots.

This is a prime example of "Gamble Responsible". Same like with drinking liquors where they always say "Drink Responsibly". It's the same with this one. Maybe putting him to some experts might help him and at least decrease or even remove his addiction with gambling.

I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!
For now. He isn't a criminal, and he isn't a thief, but what if he will do it in the future just because he don't have anything to sell anymore, and he doesn't have any money to use to play slots? For now, it's good that he isn't doing it, but there is a chance that he might do it in the future.

Like what other people does, of course I will advice the addicted person especially if he's that close to me. On the other hand, there is a limit on how I will give him advice. I mean if he doesn't listen to my advices, what's the point of helping him if he, himself doesn't want to do it. Return him to the family or put him on the rehabilitation center.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Reatim on March 14, 2023, 07:18:31 AM

I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction
this is what addiction means mate, there are even worst in my country couple years ago that a addicted gambler  try to rob the casino and killed many people including himself in fire .
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luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble
wait a little more before this happens if His addiction will not controlled till then.
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but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!
we all love to give advice mate but the thing is will they listen? if they did not listen to their family and love one so who are we to be obeyed ?


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: noorman0 on March 14, 2023, 07:49:24 AM
Suddenly I remembered a thread, Online Casinos Want you to Gamble Responsibly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5438014).
It is a proven fact that gambling, if not responsibly, can be a big problem in terms of financial, emotional and social. This man has been broken socially (family) and emotionally messed up, forgetting the greater risk of chasing losses regardless of anything else.
I even doubt if someone without competence in psychics can advise him.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Mauser on March 14, 2023, 08:12:11 AM
I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

That is a very sad story and I feel like advising a friend at this point to stop gambling has no impact at all. Once someone surrenders to his situation things are really bad and we need professional help to get him out of this hole. Even for your best friend you can't be there all the time and control actions. The same would be if it's your brother, uncle or cousin. We all have our own lifes and can't put everything on hold to help. The first step would be to get him to accept the problem of a gambling addiction and find help for him. In such a severe case it probably needs to be an institution that is specialised in gambling cases.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Yaunfitda on March 14, 2023, 09:22:10 AM
Obviously, this fellow is already addicted, because he doesn't care anymore about the money he got from his parents or even his own assets. Maybe if he still has some families around that can step up and help him out, it will be really good for him.

But if there are no external influence for him to stop, then it's going to be very difficult for him and we can only wish him the best at this point. We don't want to see him wasting him life for gambling.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: speedy963 on March 14, 2023, 09:28:41 AM
This guys clearly needs medical attention already. Winning back your losses? Nah you're just diving deeper and deeper into the pit. Although you've said luckily he doesn't have criminal record (for now), you'd think it'll stay the same in the future? Coz I personally think it won't. His addiction will only worsen if this guy doesn't get rehabilitated. Imagine how he was selling all of his family's assets just for him to gamble? What do you think he will do next when the time comes that he no longer has any source of funds to pay for his addiction? Another option is to lend money, which leads him to be full of debt in the next few months.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: DevilSlayer on March 14, 2023, 09:47:17 AM
]this is my friend,, he has 1 child his life is now destroyed in his wife and children..
<...>even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble <...>

Well, he won't steal from others, but he has stolen part of the future from his wife and child, and that's why they have left him.

Gambling addicts believe their only chance in life to make something of themselves and be somebody is through gambling.

What they really need is a 2nd career option. Another hope for earning a decent living, aside from gambling. Many parents encourage their children to acquire vocational skills and a college degree so that they have something to fall back on. In case, their dreams of being a musician or artist do not pan out.

Many gambling addicts have no 2nd option. They believe their only chance for becoming a millionaire is to win the lottery or win a lucky bet. Having no other options in life, makes it very difficult for them to gamble responsibly.

I think you are quite right on this. Many people who have this kind of problem with gambling are from poor backgrounds, with few qualifications to work, who are unhappy with their lives, mainly because of the economic component, and see gambling as a possible way out, but which in reality ends up being a problem. It is no coincidence that there are considerably more gambling dens per square metre in poor neighbourhoods than in rich neighbourhoods. But I wouldn't take all the blame off him and consider him a victim. There is a component of personal responsibility, and by no means all people in his situation end up behaving like that.
I have a bad feeling on that guy because he already lost everything and he still a gambling addict. That guy need some help from some specialist because I have a gut feeling that he can do some bad things because has nothing to lose anymore. This is what will happen if you let your mind control you, I keep saying to others that you should have full control in your mind whenever you gamble. You should also accept that gambling is pure probability game where the is no certainty.

Losing money in gambling can be painful especially if you did not fully accept the risk, but it can be a neutral if you are aware to the nature of gambling and also put the money that you intended to lose. Creating a discpline, good habit and winning attitude in gambling is really hard but it is really the key for us to be a consistent winner in gambling. Avoid to become a gambling addict because a lot of guys are doing bad things after they lose huge amount of money in gambling.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: gunhell16 on March 14, 2023, 09:59:31 AM
That is what is called gambling addiction, he is almost out of his normal mind when it comes to responsibility. It is very difficult in his condition to remove it. That won't just disappear from him, especially since it's a habit of his.

It's just sad because he has neglected his own family because of his gambling addiction. He can no longer control himself, he is irresponsible as a normal gambler because the responsible gambler still does not neglect the family he has. Even if I tell him or remind him, he won't just listen, his condition and what he needs is a psychologist in my opinion.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: livingfree on March 14, 2023, 12:23:53 PM
We can advise a person like him as much as we can for so many times but the deal is, will that person gonna listen to us?

If a gambler becomes into that point of being a severe addicted gambler, there's nothing much we can do from that point being. It's already at the worst case scenario of gambling addiction.

Since his family have already and abandoned him, he can only help himself but that's where the hardest part will enter. Because of his situation that needs a helping hand, he'll have rough time for recovery.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Jody.Drummer on March 14, 2023, 12:41:06 PM
I'm a gambler, and I'd say what he did was very wrong because he couldn't control himself. From your story, he has lost everything because of his gambling which has no limits. You should continue to give him advice so that he stops doing that. It's possible now that he's not a criminal who does anything to play, but the chance for him to become a criminal is very large in my opinion, maybe he can still hold it when he still has money, but when he doesn't have a penny he will do everything he can to get it, including doing crime.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: YOSHIE on March 14, 2023, 01:33:49 PM
would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!
Your friend has a gambling addiction level that has entered the highest level, you can't advise him to stop gambling, his family alone, it's hard to persuade him to stop gambling, now they have made the decision to leave him alone and they go away from your friend's life, let him, wait for your friend to really lose your mind and catch him, put him in rehabilitation in the area where you live.

You know, online gambling has now become a social disease, whether it's in the lower to the upper classes, I read the contents of your friend's writing, it's a pity that he really has no medicine to cure, the only way to put him in rehabilitation , finished.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: goldkingcoiner on March 14, 2023, 01:53:07 PM
People need to have set their own monthly gambling limits before going into the (online) casino.


If you earn only say, an X amount of money a month, you take away Y monthly expenses and from what have left you then divide that number by 10 and result is what you have for gambling funds. If you follow that formula, not only will your friend not lose all his money but he will be saving money to build a better future for himself and his family. All he has to do is limit how much money he has to spare for gambling.


If he does not have any money to spare or he cheats himself into breaking his own 10% rule, he will most likely lose all his money, as he did.

From what I understand, addiction is a disbalance of your brain's neurochemistry. The only way to recover is to force yourself not to gamble (not even once!) for at least half a year.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 14, 2023, 01:59:26 PM
His mindset is already ruined by gambling addiction, so he will continue to gamble until he already recover all of his losses or until he die and he can't recover anything. I'm not sure if he's your friend or not, but if you at least can contact the friend of the addict, you need to tell him if the addict need to seek help by looking for a professional or doctor. But it's quite problematic since he's already lost anything and doesn't have any money.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Coin_trader on March 14, 2023, 02:01:03 PM
No offense but the picture deficits that he is just a kid and not a guy with wife and one children. The way he holds his smartphone looks like he is just playing candy crush rather than slot game since his game is on autoplay if he is using buy bonus feature like what you said and it doesn’t need much finger tap when watching bonus round spin.

Anyway if this is true. Maybe your friend just introduced a slots game which is highly popular on AppStore. I’m using fish game casino recently to quench my thirst on playing slot without losing any money. Maybe he is just addicted on slot games and jphe just need a catalyst to divert his attention from real gambling to a play money with the same game.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Fesatmas on March 14, 2023, 02:10:48 PM
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I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!
This happened because he had won with small capital and made big profits, so he felt that it would come for the second and third time if he played again, that made him addicted to gambling, which locked his heart and mind and did not listen to anyone's words and do everything possible to be able to play gambling. I was sad to see that person, it was more than what I had imagined so far, that someone had become like a madman in gambling. Maybe asking for help Rehabilitation is the last way out as an effort to cure it.
I would do the same if it happened to my family or friends.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Die_empty on March 14, 2023, 02:41:09 PM
I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!
You friend really needs help because he is becoming an uncontrollable gamble addict. If his wife left with his children, there is a possibility that he was not providing for them. He is using all his income for gambling, leaving his family to suffer. He might not be a criminal now but he might turn to crime or begging in the future. If he has nothing to use as loan collateral or have nothing to sell to feed his gambling lifestyle, he might look for other illegal means to get cash for gambling. I think he should consult a gambling psychologist or he should abstain from gambling for sometime. He should also bring back his wife and child and become a responsible father.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: rahmad2nd on March 14, 2023, 02:44:59 PM
I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

Yes, I have several friends who are compulsive gambling addicts. even, before the virality of slot machine games in our country. some of my friends, spend the property they own just to fulfill their passion for gambling. this is a normal phenomenon for me, because in the environment where I live, gambling is not something foreign to us. even phenomena like the ones you describe in this thread, are common everywhere.

Well, referring to your question. As a friend, of course, I will advise him, give him a little understanding about gambling, its bad effects and consequences if you don't have good self-control. after that, let them decide their own destiny. because after all, it all starts with one's awareness to change. it doesn't matter, however you advise your friend, give him advice, but if there is no awareness of the addict. yes, it is the same as pointless.

By the way, maybe what you tell me in this thread. can give a little picture, at least if we like this one hobby. it is important to know, that responsibility and self-control are the most important parts.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: aioc on March 14, 2023, 03:04:41 PM


I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

The question is, will he listen to your advice or pleading I doubt he is,  he is into deep and chasing his losses, and he loses a sense of fulfillment outside of gambling, as long as he is not committing a crime and still manage to fund his gambling out of his pocket you can just monitor him in case he does something wrong or wants to talk to someone into giving up gambling, compulsive gamblers are like that there will come a point where they want to change and give up gambling, that's the time you can help him.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Cling18 on March 14, 2023, 03:13:53 PM
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I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

That person seems so hopeless and he only relies his fate on gambling. In worse gambling addiction cases like that, they tend to leave or be careless about their family's future but I think leaving them will be a good idea. If that person is my family member, I will do everything to help him seek professional help because if not, he might end up not just losing his assets but also his life. Sometimes people who are experiencing hardships like this only need comfort and since they have no one to run to they rely on gambling.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Plaguedeath on March 14, 2023, 03:17:18 PM
The question is, will he listen to your advice or pleading I doubt he is,  he is into deep and chasing his losses, and he loses a sense of fulfillment outside of gambling, as long as he is not committing a crime and still manage to fund his gambling out of his pocket you can just monitor him in case he does something wrong or wants to talk to someone into giving up gambling, compulsive gamblers are like that there will come a point where they want to change and give up gambling, that's the time you can help him.
Nah, he's keep gambling until he almost lose everything, how you can say he will give up or he will not do any crime to make money? he will become a criminal to make money to gamble, if he's want to give up, he should give up after he lose all of the heritage money given from his father.

Actually it's really risky if you're still become a friend of the gambling addict, he might do something bad to you e.g. steal your money without you knowing, kill you etc.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: Gozie51 on March 14, 2023, 04:41:50 PM
would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family?

From the story you shared his friend already advised him to no avail so he definitely needs to get into a rehab. He is just like an addict smoker who has gone off control in his behaviour. Such attitude on gambling has gone of limit for just a friend advising a friend to quit, he needs special assistance from the rehabilitation center and care for proper attention. He seem to have lost everything and nothing matters anymore and this is a typical example of a chronic gambling addict.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: wiss19 on March 14, 2023, 06:44:03 PM
I think his family respects his decision and they love the guy so much so they just let him be that way. As a friend of him I think I will also respect his decision. He found his happiness this way so why will I stop him? His family already attempted this before but they fail so chances are that I will also end up on the same path. My question is where will his family go now?

I wouldn't worry too much if the girl still had his parents and they are doing well there but what if not? I guess they will be living in the streets now and asking someone for help to get food, water and something else. I feel sorry for them for having an irresponsible husband/father.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: imamusma on March 14, 2023, 07:13:59 PM
This type of addiction like your friend's is really bad, and he needs to know what the best solution is for him to change his addiction and mindset about gambling. I also have a friend who is addicted to slots who spends 4-5 times his total monthly salary on gambling. As a friend of course I have asked "until when" but the answer is almost exactly like the story in the OP.

I never expected gamblers to appear to suffer so much about their gambling, but this is really a bad effect of gambling especially when the gambler fails to control his gambling properly. He really needs to be a responsible gambler. I hope this never happens to me, hopefully never even though I love having fun in the casino.


Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: deathcode on March 14, 2023, 07:53:59 PM
would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

He looks still young, is it true?. It is very pitiful that the negative impact of gambling addiction like this, not only the parents but also their children and wife become victims of their infatuation with gambling. I think this has disturbed him mentally and psychologically so much that he can't think rationally and realistically. If it's really happen like what you told, I just hope for him to be rehabilitated ASAP, if no one takes a hard and firm stand on him it will harm more people sooner or later.

luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble

Indeed at this time he is not a criminal but I'm sure soon he will become one. Not meaning to look negatively, but if the way of his mind just can't think clearly like that of course it could be if he lacks or runs out of money to play the gambling game, he will definitely do anything even become a criminal to get money so he can play the gambling.



Title: Re: gamble continuously because have surrendered to the situation
Post by: kamvreto on March 14, 2023, 09:57:25 PM
~snip~I never expected gamblers to appear to suffer so much about their gambling, but this is really a bad effect of gambling especially when the gambler fails to control his gambling properly. He really needs to be a responsible gambler. I hope this never happens to me, hopefully never even though I love having fun in the casino.

Casinos are aimed at those who are able to restrain themselves and not attach too much importance to their own egos. If those who do gambling only come with a lot of money and then play without any strategy and any management, they will just be wasting money for nothing. Their psychology will be disrupted because bets always lose and no big wins will be given by the casino. Players like that will suffer greatly mentally and continue to gamble non-stop until they go bankrupt.
Even though I am also a gambler, I don't really insist on having to use too much money, just use the minimum money allocated for gambling and play casually.