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March 13, 2023, 07:39:42 PM
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this is my friend,, he has 1 child his life is now destroyed in his wife and children..
his daily work he collects used goods then at night he uses them for deposits..
Once, he got 180 million rupiah inherited from his father for rent, but it was used up to play slots, then he got money from selling his mother's jewelry and used it for slots, even worse, he had 4 cows, he sold all 100 million rupiah to play slots too.
now his only assets are a smartphone and a Honda Spacy motorbike (BPKB has been mortgaged). I once asked until when did you live like this, Den (Aden's name)? He replied, until I die I don't care if I want to lose, how can I find money because it's already too deep and I've lost everything, I might as well live like this. I just stroke my chest while watching him play slots, sometimes I give him encouragement and I make fun of him when he buys a spin of 200 thousand rupiahs and returns only 12 thousand rupiahs

I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!



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March 13, 2023, 07:46:43 PM
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I count this somehow to be off-topic, but maybe some people can use this as a medium to know that they should gamble responsibly.

Likely he believes he is going to win a jackpot one day, but the day may never come, or might come. There is nothing like family, better to quite the addiction and go back to them, instead of being someone that family do not trust. If family do not trust someone, that is more that a lot for him to realize and change for better.

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March 13, 2023, 08:23:05 PM
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I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!
As a friend then it would be normal that you would really be that giving him some advises but if he did reach out this point on where he do sells everything just for playing slots then there's no way on stopping him and those words would really be useless and he wont really be listening to someone.This do really shows off severe or extreme addiction. He would really just realize things when he doesnt really have anything left even the money for him to eat. He would literally be sleeping on the streets without something to eat, no family nor having no shelter. If they wouldn't listen then it is really just that sad on what are the
upcoming consequences he would be facing on.

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March 13, 2023, 09:14:04 PM
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Sunk Cost Fallacy, the heuristic that just because you're too deep into whatever you're doing, you have no resolution other than getting your wins back through that method. I would highly suggest you drag him out to a nearby rehab center because he clearly needs it but is just in denial, and have him be treated from his addiction because not only is he ruining his own life, he's also putting his kid's life at the line by being a belligerent father who knows nothing but to gamble. If you're really this guy's good friend, You'd know for sure what to do in this situation, regardless if he hates me for it or whatever. The man's too in denial to admit that he needs help and his statement that he'd stay like that forever because nothing else is waiting for him is just too depressing.
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March 13, 2023, 09:24:30 PM
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That happens when you are continually losing and you don't release it,that is a big problem which bring a person to an addiction that makes the person go to the brink of total destruction,I say brink of as the person while here still has a chance to turn back and ask for help.The case when the person continues to just gamble and does not care about anything else and he is happy as long as he is gambling,unfortunately these are desperate cases which ends in suicide (God forbid) or destroying the family like the guy in the story here,both endings really bad for a person.That is why it is always advisable to talk to family and ask for help when you release that you are drowning deep down in addiction.

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March 13, 2023, 09:57:40 PM
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One of the most common scenario no where a gambler could ended up on which they might really be chasing up their losses and trying out to recover it back.This is where desperation would set in
and we know that it isnt something that good for you to aim because it would really be making you desperate.Just like the rest been saying above that a gambler would really be stopping on betting
is on the time that he wont really be having no money on his pocket for him to do so. This is why you should really make yourself that fully aware that you shouldn't really
make yourself reached out that point.Regret do always come at the end.

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March 13, 2023, 10:07:09 PM
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I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

If he didn't listen to his family do you think that person will listen to his friend? No for sure he continue what abusive thing he do and ignore the advices given to him coming from other people. For now he don't do crime yet since maybe he still have enough money to use but once he can't control his self and all his money are gone maybe he can think about doing it. To bad his family left him since they can do something like seek for help on health experts and put him on rehab since for sure he will be cured there.

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March 13, 2023, 10:09:35 PM
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If he doesn't think he has lost a lot, there is no reason why he would stop gambling. I mean if his situation were caused by gambling losses and it brought him great shame, he would stop, but otherwise, why stop?  The gambling sites or centres don't care if  his wife or family left him or not.  Their ads would continue to air and new users would join.
 It is left for those who see and understand his situation to talk to him and be the encouragement he needs to stop by either helping him secure a job or putting him in an earning job or better still opening his eyes to the importance of moderation and family around.

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this guy has a living wife and children, so his life is not destroyed yet, and what he should do is stop playing, he should forget about games and when I say that he should forget about games, I'm talking about all games, even this games of phone, computer games, ( I know it's hard to resist not playing call of duty ) but you have to be strong and forget games. the ideal would be for him to be without a phone and computer and anything that has internet access for many months, and move to the countryside, where there is no technology and physical casinos and games. this will make him stop playing

and start to live more interacting with people in the real world, he will start to have things in the real world and he will be able to dedicate himself to his wife and child, while he has a wife and child, his life is still much more important, this son of his needs it, and will continue to need it for many years to come, I hope people value real-world interaction more than gambling

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Very bad decision in my opinion, his mentality though, I somewhat pity this guy, like selling all what he inherited from his parents. Might be worst if he has a family of his own as it will be a big problem because he needs to bring food in the table. If only he will realized what he has doing is wrong, maybe he can change his life for the better. We don't want to hear from his selling everything to gamble until one day he doesn't have any assets and start to live in the streets and begging money for others just to survived.

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That is what I don’t understand too. Losing everything doesn’t mean you have to throw away your hope in the bus too. I’m pretty sure there were a lot of chances for this young man to turn things around but he simply just chose to gamble because he believed that there is no longer any hope for him and his family. Instead of abandoning his gambling activities, he still pursued it believing that it could help them someday. Wrong mentality and obviously, a huge mistake for him to just throw it all away because of a mistake that can be corrected if only he is willing to.
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Gambling addicts believe their only chance in life to make something of themselves and be somebody is through gambling.

What they really need is a 2nd career option. Another hope for earning a decent living, aside from gambling. Many parents encourage their children to acquire vocational skills and a college degree so that they have something to fall back on. In case, their dreams of being a musician or artist do not pan out.

Many gambling addicts have no 2nd option. They believe their only chance for becoming a millionaire is to win the lottery or win a lucky bet. Having no other options in life, makes it very difficult for them to gamble responsibly.
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I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

That's the worse that can happen to any gambler living only to gamble and don't care anymore about the good thing about life, it's probably the lowest low of any gambler, and if you are into this deep no amount of persuasion is enough, he just come to a point that he realized that he needs to stop, and when this happens to be sure you are there to guide him.
Don't give up on your friend yet, if the gambler is that low he is at a point where he will realize that he needs to change either he'll go crazy or find a way or help to get back on his feet just check if you see this sign.


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Gambling is not a skill and been addicted to it is not good, so i can not encourage my own child to participate in gambling , because i know that gambling will profit it nothing, gambling is nothing to show your people the way I'm seeing everything that comes out from it, but i believe that, some people who is on gambling do that for leisure purpose not to get or make money.

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Now maybe he didn't rob or commit a crime to be able to gamble. But when he is addicted and has no money to make for gambling, he will do many things to be able to earn money and gamble. I know the slot gambling application you mean, and it's widely used today. It's very addictive when you are given one win, you want to keep playing without limits. Having a friend like that is a good idea for you to advise, because it will have an impact on his life in the future. want to get the Jackpot, even though they always lose and keep making deposits. Gambling like that will only bring misery to your friends, risk addiction and risk finances. If don't have money to deposit anymore, then the only way to get it is by criminal means or by selling the things you have.
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Sunk Cost Fallacy, the heuristic that just because you're too deep into whatever you're doing, you have no resolution other than getting your wins back through that method. I would highly suggest you drag him out to a nearby rehab center because he clearly needs it but is just in denial, and have him be treated from his addiction because not only is he ruining his own life, he's also putting his kid's life at the line by being a belligerent father who knows nothing but to gamble. If you're really this guy's good friend, You'd know for sure what to do in this situation, regardless if he hates me for it or whatever. The man's too in denial to admit that he needs help and his statement that he'd stay like that forever because nothing else is waiting for him is just too depressing.
it's true, that addict rehabilitation center is the best place for those who are really crazy about gambling and even give up other things just for gambling

I don't have friends who are gambling addicts, but a few years ago there was a friend of mine who was a drug addict and then I advised him to go to a rehabilitation center and luckily now he has recovered from his addiction, however a gambler still has responsibilities in his life, is a fool who forgot his family only for gambling and became a heavy addict

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This is saddening, one of worst stories I have read here.

I got a picture sent from a friend who said there was a slot addict who no longer cared about anything in his life, even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble but if you have a friend like him, would you advise him to stop gambling like crazy and return to the family? because there is no way you can stay with him, you have a family to take care of!

Of course, I would. But he must be willing to heed advise. Even if I don't have family, I would stay away from such minded people, just to keep myself sane. Never drown in other's misery.





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March 14, 2023, 04:00:33 AM
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]this is my friend,, he has 1 child his life is now destroyed in his wife and children..
<...>even his family had left him because of his addiction, luckily he is not a criminal, he doesn't rob to gamble <...>

Well, he won't steal from others, but he has stolen part of the future from his wife and child, and that's why they have left him.

Gambling addicts believe their only chance in life to make something of themselves and be somebody is through gambling.

What they really need is a 2nd career option. Another hope for earning a decent living, aside from gambling. Many parents encourage their children to acquire vocational skills and a college degree so that they have something to fall back on. In case, their dreams of being a musician or artist do not pan out.

Many gambling addicts have no 2nd option. They believe their only chance for becoming a millionaire is to win the lottery or win a lucky bet. Having no other options in life, makes it very difficult for them to gamble responsibly.

I think you are quite right on this. Many people who have this kind of problem with gambling are from poor backgrounds, with few qualifications to work, who are unhappy with their lives, mainly because of the economic component, and see gambling as a possible way out, but which in reality ends up being a problem. It is no coincidence that there are considerably more gambling dens per square metre in poor neighbourhoods than in rich neighbourhoods. But I wouldn't take all the blame off him and consider him a victim. There is a component of personal responsibility, and by no means all people in his situation end up behaving like that.

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He's already such a heavy addict that it's a little hard to stop him unless someone with expertise in this might be able to stop him I think he will also quit eventually when he does run out of money overall but don't let that happen there's still time to find someone expert to stop it, this is a lesson for beginners to gamble according to their ability to lose money, so that when you lose you don't have to chase losses, you should limit your daily budget so that you don't like this, gamble wisely and responsibly  Wink

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March 14, 2023, 06:21:56 AM
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Geez, this is not what you need others to make a decision for, as long as he is an addict and this addiction of his has affected him in a bad way then you prolly should start advising him to quit or get an expert to assist you in convincing him to quit gambling because if he should continue more damage will be done and before you know it he might even pick up the act of stealing all because he needs cash to gamble.
I just hope your efforts to get him to stop gambling works because this story of his is heartbreaking indeed.

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