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Elon Musk has been in various complications since purchasing the popular social media Twitter. After purchasing the social media he imposed various restrictions on the intention of the users. Since becoming the owner of Twitter, by eliminating employer he tried to reduce the company's costs. No one including the users could accept his various thoughts regarding on twitter. As a result, today he has to announce the sale of his Twitter at half of the buy price. $44 billion Twitter is now $20 billion. Elon Musk has made such an offer to sell shares to Twitter employees.

Elon Musk cofounded and his four popular companies are Electric car maker Tesla, Rocket producer SpaceX, Tunneling startup Boring Company and
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He may be a big businessman but nothing can be imposed ignoring the sentiments of common people. Since Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter, 14 of the 30 companies that have served as advertisers they have stopped promoting in twitter. Naturally, Twitter's revenue has declined and is likely to further decline in the coming days.
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Although he is financially one of the richest businessmen in the world, it is also worth noting that the share prices of his other companies could fall through losses on his Twitter purchase. In my opinion his main mistake was disregarding public sentiment. What is your concern?

He is a genius and he will certainly surprise you and everyone.

Maybe not all his companies will skyrocket,  but most of them are

Let's not confuse Elon's eccentric personality with his abilities and virtues, which he clearly has.

Elon Musk got like millions of money so probably he know what he is doing.

I think it's a good call to buy twitter since many traders and investor are active at twitter. Its like when he mentioned the dogecoin and it pumped so hard. He could easily make calls for him to decide to manipulate the market and values. And it's true that maybe his other companies could get affected by his decisions still it will be the reason of the rise of other companies.

IMO, Elon Musk is a talented businessman and has made significant contributions to the industry and society. However, his frequent use of Twitter to make controversial news and his decision to acquire Twitter could devalue the shares of his other companies. This can make investors and the public worried about the future of those companies.

Elon Musk's failure to properly appreciate the impact of his actions and words on the public and the market. Disregard for public sentiment can lead to a loss of investor and customer confidence, damaging the reputation and value of his companies.

Well said, my friend, you actually said my mind. Elon Musk thought it was business as usual thinking he can venture into anything and get it done better. Well, the Twitter purchase has put him on the wrong note, even the Tesla shares dropped so significantly. You see, if someone is touching almost everything and such things become successful, they see themselves as one demigod.

But not in all cases, social media is a different space entirely, especially when you are doing things that are anti-social media itself. He thought he can monetize everything better, but it boomerangs.

 You know, at the end of the day, this act by Elon just portrays the image of a rich, spoiled kid who wants new toys at every whim; he gets bored, he discards and looks for another more interesting toy that tickles his fancy. I could clearly remember when the sale of Twitter was like the only trending news since it was being purchased by business tycoon and dogecoin crusader, Elon Musk but now, I've kinda forgotten he purchased the app, hehe.
 Also, according to  companies market Cap  (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://companiesmarketcap.com/twitter/marketcap/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjvm66_4Pn9AhXSnf0HHZBNDb4QFnoECAYQAg&usg=AOvVaw38X8L0PEn2g9FzBqpk4NXO), it's being ranked 399th amomgst valuable companies and price value dropped to $41.09bn. Let's just say his magical flair for saving businesses didn't hit Twitter right.

I am not sure about the figures shared by the Op I can assure you Ellon musk is not a personality who will deal with the loss, In my view, Twitter is not the same as before and there are many things Ellon musk can do with Twitter. Also, this is a fact is not every business does its best in profit-making. Also, I am a little bit confused about how you are calculating the Twitter capital value because I can't see any changes in the share price there are minor drops and the capital value is also $41B+.

He was too eccentric and became so rich that he was often hated by many, many of whom laughed and prayed that he would collapse every time his company was in trouble. But I also believe that he knows what he is doing, he cannot simply become the richest man in the world. The business has ups and downs, can't go smoothly forever, don't just because of some bullshit news in the press that says Twitter will fall.

From what is on that graph, it isn't looking like there's a decline in revenue from Twitter. If anything, it's looking like revenue is on a steady rise instead. Come to think of it, this period is a time where most companies aren't finding it easy with inflation and all that on the increase. I know that a lot of people didn't like the shakeup at Twitter when Musk took over but that's what should happen during a takeover by a new owner. In all of this, I still believe the ingenuity of Elon Musk to turn any bad situation to a great one. He isn't the richest man on the globe by luck. Dude knows what he's doing.

His failure on Twitter doesn’t implied that his other companies will be affected since they are different industries and most of them is on top notch with their unique feature. Failure is part of investment especially on a guy like him that usually invest on company that can give huge impact to the mankind.

I believe Elon intention on twitter is good but the politics on US kills his ideology to have uncensored public information.

For a genius that he is... I think there he has good reason why he has offered to sell twitter for half the price because to me Elon does not appear to be the kind of man that does something without having a solid reason behind it, although what have had planned with twitter didn't go well.
And I also agree with you that he neglected public sentiments and also most of his action made twitter looked like a place without freedom, because if anyone should go against him the person would risk losing his account.

Yes, Elon Musk has a personality that is quite unique, it is likely that he will surprise his followers, I feel that I have such expectations, but if you look at the condition of the company he has held to this day, it has experienced a fairly high decline, including Tesla, which is the main focus. has a decline in stocks to free fall to the bottom, so that the status of the richest man is no longer within him.


A good reason as he suggests, most likely selling Twitter to cover losses or raise funds for his old company, is that it is impossible for a skilled businessman to pursue such a strategy I thought I needed some logical enlightenment.

Am I the only one who just noticed the delete function is no longer available?
I can't really say whenever exactly this function was removed but I only noticed it today. To be honest, am not very have especially with this changes, I can say this has affected me directly, other changes he made around twitter has no direct impact on me as this does. Elon needs to be careful with these several changes before he makes the platform unusable.

Did he really plan to sell $20B for the entire stocks he's got with Twitter? AFAIK, he's sold $4B of shares and I just learned of it when I searched it when saw this topic. Well, no doubt that he's a great businessman but sometimes we don't see where he is coming from and his visions. If it's for real that he's trying to sell the entire holdings he's got for Twitter for less than the amount he's paid for it, maybe that's his way of admitting that he's tired of this company. But as a businessman, I don't think that he's doing that just to cut loss and before purchasing it, he has thought of it a hundred times. That's why if he ever says that he's willing to sell all of it, I doubt it. He even said that he's willing to step down as CEO but did he?

I knew there would be a problem right from the first day he purchased the twitter because he thought he can manipulate twitter just as he does with altcoin project but never because there are more to learn. I believe the previous owner of twitter may not reveal those secret to him and believe me or not, if time not taken the previous owner will come back to buy his company back if Elon Musk wants to sell it back again. His problems started when he sack those staff and i believe they are the bed rock of twitter and they knows how to manage it properly unlike those he employed now coupled with those restrictions he sets to limits people. As for me I never thought he could so such a thing without him sourcing to know the secret behind twitter before sacking any of the workers.

You can't used the knowledge of a banker to go become a Doctor talk less of wanting to carry out a surgical operation without enrolling back to studying those things over the years before implementing new rules.

All indications indicate that the Twitter deal is a loser and that it was in a kind of show. Elon Musk is a genius in his management of projects with new and ambitious ideas such as Tesla and SpaceX, but his adventure with social media platforms was not very genius since the company had not generated revenues for years before its purchase and that the price offered was imaginary that exceeded its real value. Even if he succeeds in saving Twitter from the difficulties it is going through, this may cost more time, more effort, and huge capabilities, much more than what was initially planned.

I second your observation.  From the graph, it looks like Twitter revenue is still uptrending, the graph shows not a decline but a slowing down of profit growth.  It is due to the reached audiences.  Since the majority of the population had been reached in its earlier years and the competition got tighter in the recent year, the revenue growth somehow slows down. Or some done deals that haven't been renewed or replaced yet.  That flow is normal especially when Twitter already reached its peak the trend will surely slow down.

Those company that stops promoting on Twitter will surely be replaced by other company.  I still think twitter's influence and marketing power is still on its peak.  These companies that stop promoting on Twitter are probably fueled by some propaganda or their contract is finished.


I think it is expected because twitter first move is to clear its platform of idle accounts and clear its office of employees.  Regardless, I believe Elon Musk is not showing any distress or problem on the status of Twitter.  It simply shows he know what he is doing.  Besides, it takes time for a company to rebound when it cleans its system.

About 4.9% of Twitter's shares were owned by Musk as of 2021, which represented approximately 22.4 million shares. Considering his frequent purchase and sale of shares of various companies, it's possible that his ownership stake has changed since then. It's likely, however, that Musk's opinions and actions will have some impact on public discourse and political discussions, given his high profile and influence as the CEO of several prominent companies. In addition to affecting his business, this involvement seems to have a negative impact on it in the future.

selling shares to employees is not a good thing here where Elon can give space to his employees to own shares where he works, I'm sure Elon has its own goals behind all of this, as we know Elon will not experience high losses.
can you provide real data numbers

This isn't even his first failure. Before that there was Hyperloop and Boring Company. And the mistakes that he make are really amateurish. To the point when I'm wandering if SpaceX and Tesla succeed not because of Musk but despite of him. And maybe one day they will too lose half of their value when Musk announced some stupid changes that fundamentally change the relationship with customers for worse.

He's been acting high and mighty after he's purchased Twitter. A lot of the users I came across in that platform are totally not happy with how Elon is handling the social media platform, especially its employees who are being laid-off everywhere. While the stock valuation of most of his companies are still doing good, I believe that one single mistake from the billionaire will see those prices tumbling. He's treading on dangerous areas right now, and if he's not very careful he may see his downfall sooner.

Many geniuses are not suitable to be CEO of a firm.   He is a bit too domineering to really be the best head of a public communications company, I think he has admitted comms is not his greatest strength so it is a strange choice to buy at many billions over base worth.    I dont disagree he might make a profit (at great labor, time and effort) but its not been to the benefit of his Tesla shareholders for sure and that was duely noted by the wider market.

Twitter will not just go down at this point as long as there are still many users, because Twitter has also been a very popular social media platform for a long time. And Elon Musk is a smart person in several ways so he is always very aware of what he is doing and which sectors are still very weak to improve to be better.

People who want the destruction of all of Elon Musk's businesses are people who hate Elon Musk, while those who are able to make a partnership with Elon Musk certainly don't expect that to happen to Elon Musk because they also really want to continue doing business with Elon Musk. I think that Elon Musk, who has become rich, cannot be separated from his intelligence in running a business and seeing opportunities to advance his own business by entering into contracts with the parties he needs.

Theirs concept i want to understand very well, is that Elon musk want to sell the twitter he bought or he wants sell shares, because it's well known that if Elon should sell Twitter right now he will be at negative side of it. So therefore i believe that information is not really concrete or i misunderstood the information.

Without having to temper with Twitter features, Twitter was really doing great the way it was, and Elon Musk was also making good earnings from social media. He first said he was going to make Twitter a payment gateway that overshadows PayPal, and now his plans to sell it, (oh wow), this genius is just full of surprises, and I still believe he's got something he's working on; maybe he's noticed that Twitter could not work the way he'd expected. Lately, I can't change my Twitter password; it just becomes difficult to login because I've forgotten my password, and restoring the password is not just working.

Elon Musk is a businessman and Twitter seems like a new industry for him but thinks that Im sure he make a Twitter profitable company. Since I hear that most of Twitter's revenue comes from ads.

And about the laid-off, I think this just does not happen to twitter alone even the biggest company like Google is laying off people Google laid off 12,000 employees across the globe - https://www.businesstoday.in/technology/news/story/why-me-googles-star-performer-laid-off-in-recent-wave-of-job-cuts-371754-2023-02-28

They are constantly making changes since Elon's takeover. It was working fine before but now they have made the user experience much worse in order to try and extract the most value from this platform. There is a ton more ads to make up for the advertisers that left and my feed is full of random people's tweets who I don't follow, which seems like a poor attempt to increase engagement.

When it bought Twitter for $44 billion, there were many comments about its purchase of Twitter, wondering why a social media platform like Twitter should pay such a large sum of money. Now if the market value of Twitter is $20 Billion then it is a big loss for Elon Musk. But I don't think he calculates so much gain or loss. If he calculated profit or loss like this, he would not have bought Twitter knowing that he would have suffered a loss by buying Twitter, and from what I know of Elon Musk, he is never one to give up.
I hope that the purpose for which he purchased the twitter platform with such a huge amount of money will be fulfilled.

I guess it came from internal sabotage after Elon cut over 70% of staff since taking over.  Maybe Elon has recognized the problem, but the internal processing time is still not stable, the service of twitter continues to degrade.  Nothing major has changed to twitter's reach and reach since Elon acquired Twitter but I don't think Elon will let things fall apart so simply. I still expect to see them announce the NFT tweet Tiles feature soon and crypto adoption as a form of payment for the platform.

Please don't take it otherwise to those who are Elon supporters. I myself will not deny his contribution to the crypto world. He is a successful businessman but if he applies the same strategy everywhere as he does in other businesses, the results may not be good there. His loss on Twitter is nothing but his strategy was definitely wrong. If you notice that SpaceX has no competitors then he can succeed in whatever way he chooses, but unlike social media, there are a lot of competitors in this platform. Most of the users were against the decisions that were taken with his Twitter and as a result he was forced to lower the price of Twitter. I am providing a link to finance.yahoo as a reference.
Sorce: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-puts-20-billion-005335181.html

of course there will be changes that are interconnected, at first there might be turmoil that is normal, but we don't know what strategy Elon Musk will implement. I don't think he'll be careless about dropping Twitter, but that's the way to go for his success, just like when he catapulted Doge, no one knew about his plans.

Why would he sell Twitter now? He is now conducting some kind of activity there, changing something, I hear from many that their accounts are blocked, most likely this is not a very correct work of bots, but still. He wants to make twitter better, and right now I understand he's fighting to purge twitter of questionable accounts. Let's see where it leads, but so far I see that for the mask this is just a new toy, and so far she hasn't bothered him.

Twitter is under Elon Musk management for less than half a years. I think it is early to say about fall of the Twitter or that that deal in October 2022 was a failure. This is a long lasting investment. This is like comparing Bitcoin price for 6 month period. Indeed it does not look like a best investment. I think we still need to wait a couple of years before making such loud accusations that Elon has lead Twitter to an end. Despite purchasing Twitter and changing its head management, he hasnt done anything that might really lead to a fall.

I have also heard many news which are criticizing Elon Musk polices after he take ownership of twitter like payment of monthly fee for blue tick. But I don't think there is decline in popularity of twitter at least in my country i.e. Pakistan. People are still using it as a tool where they can share their opinion or raise voice against government policies and twitter has not changed any stance on it. We need to wait for a year or two to see the financial impact of Elon Musk policies on twitter. Till then we can enjoy this platform.

From a producer of SpaceX and Tesla, you believe that selling Twitter is a big loss for him? I am not even talking about the money but the kind of skills this man possesses, he is like no other and this is not a failure, believe me, this man is one in a million because he has never run out of good ideas before, let's wait and see, because what he will unfold next will be surprising, fingers crossed.

I completely agree with your point about Elon Musk's disregard for public sentiment. This has led to many problems for his companies in the past, and buying Twitter could be another example.

My concern is that the stock prices of Elon Musk's companies are affected by bad business decisions. This could pose a risk to investors and could lead to a loss of public confidence in him and his companies. If Elon Musk doesn't learn from his mistakes and doesn't respect public sentiment, this could have dire consequences for his career and companies in the future.

I would not agree that this is some kind of complete downfall of this company, but that Mr. Mars only decided on one move in which he tries to increase the value of the company by offering employees to buy so-called "stock grants".  What the OP missed was that another internal memo allegedly appeared in which Mr. Mars states the following:

Source (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/mar/26/elon-musk-twitter-value-leaked-memo-less-than-half-paid)

From everything we can read, it can be concluded that T is not currently worth as much as it was paid for, but I doubt that its value has halved in such a short time.

Elon is Elon no matter what happened to twitter assets he bought, he is a smart guy and knows what his doing at it. Still, he is the richest man on earth so he don't mind that twitter right now, in fact he has lots of plan to twitter. So, we just have to stick around of what he is planning into especially on doge integrations and crypto features as well.

Earlier on the deal for sure Elon find a potential of twitter since he know that social media is a powerful tool for him to expand more his influence but maybe he find so technical about it that's why he drop that decision to let go of it at cheaper price than he bought it. But its still Elon he's so influential and rich so provably there are other things caught his attention which is worth to take focus with. If this is the downfall of twitter maybe this company will only fall but not Elon Musk.

I see in the situation that Elon Musk's strategies are failing. He is a genius perhaps but not all had worked according to his plan and certainly not all things can be controlled.  He is great to others but not all. But we can't underestimate Elon Musk due to his experience and brilliant ideas when it comes to business. But as I said, despite all of the good deeds he did in many businesses he owned and with the busy life he has, sometimes he misses managing others. Let us assume that he has no longer interested in Twitter and that is might the reason for deciding to sell despite the losses.

Although Elon musk's stock is in trouble on Twitter at the moment but I believe he has another mission to be able to revive the business he is currently running, everything he has gone through so many challenges that until now he has become the number one person in the world in financial matters, but Twitter's current problem is indeed very big because many investors want to die the project because the profits they get have been reduced, but I believe Elon musk is a very genius person in dealing with business problems.

Twitter went down from 7,500 to 2000 employees and it's still running. Because of that twitter has some issues, the ones that I experienced are that some videos have load problem, some have sound problems.
Twitter is still doing well but definitely he made mistakes, he expects other people to work as hard and as dedicated as he works. It industry become too much comfortable to work in. There are too many people in IT sector that are paid up to six figures and most of the time play on Playstation console. Elon came like an earthquake for them.
I like what he did in this sector, yeah, twitter has problems, it's price went down but think long-term, what he does will tremendously benefit him long-term because he will have less employees, more profit and I think it will push other IT companies to become stricter and operate their companies with less but more hard-working workforce, this and AI will make the market more competitive, yeah, a lot of things will happen on the way.

There is nothing for me to worry about in the slightest, this time it has nothing to do with Elon Musk. It doesn't matter whether Elon Musk is going to be poor, I don't think anyone cares. The world of finance is too short if you only focus on the facilities he built. Isn't the economy already running before it comes to the surface with provocative tweets.
You shouldn't be too optimistic that just because of Twitter Elon Musk will lose everything. He has more income than that and you need to know the money he used to buy Twitter stock was not taken from his own pocket. That's how a reliable businessman works.

A world No. 1 billionaire is never a fool. Lol, even though Elon has just announced twitter 50% loss in value from the original purchase price, several consecutive problems have occurred since he took over twitter including slow service, interruptions , being sued over bill payments, layoffs... It wouldn't be hard to understand why twitter's stock would drop in value. But if you think that twitter is down, a complete failure, it may be a misconception. I think Elon is bold and extravagant, that's his specialty - it's his strength to be able to accelerate a groundbreaking idea such as accepting bitcoin as a form of payment. on twitter, how he did the same with tesla. He has the ability to reverse the current predicament and will not give up easily.

Elon Musk is a very famous figure in the world of business and technology. He has created many world-changing innovations in many ways, from electric cars to space rockets. Although he recently faced an issue on Twitter which affected his company's stock.

Despite the difficult situation, I think that Elon Musk has the talent and intelligence to solve complex business problems. He has faced many challenges in his career, and has demonstrated an ability to adapt and create innovative solutions to the problems he faces. I believe that with his experience and intelligence, Elon Musk can find a way to solve the problems he is currently facing and get his business back on track.

1.Elon Musk is definitely NOT a genius. He likes to take big risks, some of them paid off. He also has a team of really good engineers, but that doesn't mean that he is a genius. He just wants to create that fake "genius entrepreneur" persona on the mainstream media and the social media.
2.It is clear that buying Twitter was a mistake right from the start. Musk tried to refuse the deal at some point, but he got forced to buy Twitter by the authorities.
3.AFAIK, Elon Musk is not Tesla's cofounder. He just bought a share from the company in an early stage.


I'm not saying that he is a fool. He is very smart, but being very smart and being a genius are two different things. Many smart people aren't geniuses.

I couldn't find any news about Elon trying to sell Twitter at half the price - would you mind sharing your source?


It's much harder to save a public company that frequently finds itself in the headlines for the wrong reasons. And he didn't even buy Twitter willingly so that is also a factor you should consider.

The majority of Twitter workers are woke and so hate him to. Sure, most of them were fired, but I wouldn't be surprised if a large percentage remained.

In a way, Elon Musk did this to get back at the people that were in charge of Twitter, after the whole thing about him and market manipulation accusations that were brought against him, with the Dodge coin and Shiba debacle.  ::)

I think he thought that he would scare them with the buyout offer and then they took it seriously ..so when he pulled out of the deal, they went after him and he had to honor the deal in the end.  :P

I did not know that we have soothsayers on this forum. Please share how you see Twitter gonna be in 2-5 years. The fact that current Twitter value is lower than it was before Elon Musk purchased it does not mean this value will remain. I am not telling that Twitter value is going to grow, you might be correct and it might go even lower. But, this is a long term investment. We do not know what services will offer Twitter in 5 years and how it will look. Who know what will be in technology industry in few years. Maybe he will add wallet and anonymity features into Twitter. Maybe in 10 years your Twitter account will be your only ID.

Technically that was Peter Thiel's venture.

Elon Musk founded an online bank that merged with Paypal later (and then he was kicked out).

I posted a link in my previous post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446348.msg61984977#msg61984977), but the news was allegedly leaked from an internal memo sent to employees. Everything else that I wrote in that post indicates that it is another skillful manipulation, because even though everyone is caught up on the fact that T is supposedly worth 50% less than a few months ago, no one comments on the second part of the message that the company could one day be worth at least ten times as much ($250 billion).

As for the employees, apparently only those who think like the boss are left, and anyone who had any other opinion got a kick in the ass. However, if he needs workers, he can always hire them very cheaply in countries where he has to pay much less than in the US.

The thing I feel when using Twitter after buying Elon Musk is Twitter too many rules and easy to block the account, the other side that must be watched out is a blue check that can be easily obtained by anyone who pays, this is dangerous because Twitter is verified with a blue check easily for fraud.

Apparently, Elon needs even more money. Today's news that from mid-April only users with a paid subscription will be able to vote on Twitter shows that if you are willing to give $11 a month, you will get the right to vote.

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https://sputniknews.com/20230328/musk-twitters-for-you-feed-wont-recommend-unverified-accounts-1108852415.html


Whether the platform will still be democratic and whether Musk's example will lead to all social networks making them pay, these questions are being asked by users today. After all, if there is an opportunity to earn money somewhere, company owners are unlikely to refuse such an opportunity.

Musk's purchase of Twitter illustrates the dangers of power and influence. His acts reveal he doesn't care about how people feel or how they effect a business. This Twitter fiasco underscores how crucial it is to lead ethically and be accountable, even when his other businesses have done well

It's worrisome how Twitter's income is falling and affecting advertising. Twitter and the economy may suffer from this decline. Rethinking our economic system will ensure that a few don't have too much power over everyone else's well-being
Musk and those like him must be held accountable for their actions and not put their own interests first. Let's use the Twitter buyout to consider the pitfalls of uncontrolled power and the importance of leaders keeping their cool

Currently Elon Mask Twitter stock is indeed in trouble so many large investors are starting to hesitate to invest in Twitter, because the profits they get are decreasing, by running some big projects Elon Musk is increasingly difficult to rely on so that all companies he can run well, even though financially he is the number one person in the world but I am very sure he will not fall if Twitter will be in the hands of others.

I don't see that as the main problem, Elon Musk is a businessman and he knows what to do when public confidence starts to peak in trust in social media platforms and the stock.

You will be surprised in the next year he will take over another business, Twitter as social media has a great reputation in the world and I'm sure he is doing something to surprise a lot of people. Business people do many ways to make a profit and what Elon Musk is doing is his way of making a profit.

It's quite hard to decide if someone is a genius or not, but mostly people use IQ score to determine that. CNBC writes that anyone who has IQ score above than 140 is called as a genius^[1], and some sources mention that Elon has 150-155. I do think if he isn't a genius, then he wouldn't be brave enough to invest in Tesla, proposed ideas to have reusable rockets and make colony in Mars with SpaceX. Of course for us, it's such a strange decision from him to buy Twitter at the first place, but who knows what inside these businessmen mind. What's strange for us, might be an opportunity for them.




^{[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/12/heres-the-iq-score-warren-buffett-says-is-all-you-need-to-succeed.html}

Twitter is on the decline and there's a reasonable probability it goes bankrupt. I'm not one to normally agree with Elon Musk.

However, I don't disagree with this. Bots promoting scams have overtaken the Twitter algorithm and there isn't a feasible way for manned content moderation when the platform is so large. Twitter is still free to use and there isn't a fee for participation (tweeting, replying etc. all are still free).

The "for you" tab was an open market place for manipulation. If the algorithm couldn't find a way to override it, then only allowing verified accounts to appear is probably the only thing that can save it.

I don't have issues with those companies pulling their adverts because we know this decision is politically motivated also the world economy has not been doing that good for some time now, so most of these companies are being conservative with their spending and some keep cutting jobs just to balance their books, the issue I have is the constant changes which come with every update without finding lasting solutions to bots issue on the platform

Existing investors are hesitating to invest more but for those who are new in this, maybe this can be the perfect time to enter. If Elon can run other big projects then why not this one? When I think it's much smaller than the other projects he have.

It's not very long since he acquired Twitter so maybe he is still adjusting but sooner or later I believe that he can master it. That would be the time for their company and those investors to recover. Elon might be number one before but I think the moment he bought Twitter, that affected his net worth and maybe drop his spot. I don't know if it's a big deal for him or to others, but for me, not really as he was still a rich person.

Twitter wasn't worth that much anyway, Elon Musk bought it at a very high price. Twitter is not that popular social media platform. After all, what can be done is limited. The advantage of Twitter is that it creates an instant trends and everyone can make their voices heard. But these advantages disappear when you set limits. In addition, increasing ads make the application unusable.
It's known that this application is used for intelligence purposes. So in the background, the states are the main buyers here. The value of Twitter cannot be measured with shares traded on the stock exchange. Elon made this investment knowing this. Owning this platform makes him stronger.

It's actually hilarious and very entertaining to watch Elon self destruct large portions of his wealth, but a bit unfortunate that he is having such a huge effect on free speech while he drags his various companies down. He had to be reprimanded by regulators multiple times when his focus was on Tesla, because he had a tendency to create misleading or downright unprofessional outbursts at anyone who questioned him. He must be an absolute nightmare to work alongside yet he takes credit for most of the intelligent engineering performed by other people. The fact that he has torpedoed over $20 billion dollars in the space of a couple months is sweet justice and hopefully some of his flock of blind followers have seen the light.

It is true that no matter how big a businessman and how wise you are, you have to take initiative in every field according to your type otherwise you will never be successful in that particular field. Although Elon Musk is the best entrepreneur of some of the world's famous businesses, he almost failed to manage Twitter. And once a negative impression comes on all these platforms, it is very difficult to make it positive. I think Elon Musk needs a new CEO for Twitter.

Twitter is the most popular and trusted social network in the US, IMO. I'm not defending him, but I think as an entrepreneur and CEO of many companies, he's not stupid enough not to be able to value the company or not know how to use it. In business, there will be difficulties and challenges is very normal, even on the verge of bankruptcy, but as long as they can maintain and find a way to develop again, they have never failed. In addition, we are in an unstable economy, thousands of businesses, and banks are bankrupt... so we can't draw any conclusions about Elon and TW at this time.

If someone thinks that Twitter purchase was a failure, then consider it one of the most expensive and infinite advertising campaigns for all current and future Elon Musk projects and products. Maybe he never intended to earn with Twitter. But he could for example insert Tesla ad in every tweet person make. Imagine having running Tesla ad everywhere in media for ages, and compare it with cost of 30sec-1min ad on TV during month. Dont want to see ad - pay $8/month for Twitter blue. win=win scenario. Of course some people would leave Twitter because of that, but for many Twitter is already a part of culture or lifestyle, they will never leave it.

In my opinion, elon musk is too ambitious to make twitter according to his wishes, when there are staff who have different opinions then it is certain that the staff will be fired, and not forever that money can do everything, maybe twitter is the worst business that elon musk has ever done.

We don't know what he was thinking, because we are not the richest people in the world, maybe now what he is doing seems like a mistake to us, but that could be one of his strategies to be profitable in the future and build the world's largest social media. What's more, we know that Elon Musk has succeeded in building SpaceX and Tesla and several other companies, that proves his capabilities as a CEO and in the business world, so I doubt that he will fail in building Twitter.

Will Elon Musk sell Twitter cheaply, or will Twitter declare bankruptcy? At the point when Twitter was taken by Elon Musk, it was a company without profit. Elon Musk dared to assume power, announcing significant changes. The annual costs of Twitter are reduced as a result of those changes. While the revenue of Twitter continues to decline, I would not classify it as falling. The political side of Elon Musk was also not helpful. But there will be the coming elections. Twitter will still recover, in my opinion, following the major changes. Twitter is a giant company and will not become profitable overnight; I anticipate it will do so by next year or the year after that.

We all make mistakes, but the one that Elon made was very expensive. I don't really know the motives of Elon in buying Twitter; for sure he has something to it and will sell it, but mostly what we can see right now is that Twitter is falling into the hands of Elon. At first, I thought it would generate more revenue for him due to the innovation he would be implementing, but it did not. 

About Elon's investment in Twitter. It's also possible that Elon has more motives than simply generating revenue from Twitter, and it's also possible that his innovative approach to the platform will take time to bear fruit.

I myself cannot judge the success of this investment based on short-term fluctuations in earnings. The important thing is that Elon remains committed to driving innovation and growth in his investments, and he continues to learn from his mistakes to make better investment decisions in the future.

I think what Elon is doing is his business and he might be doing something better for Twitter. If you check the old numbers then Twitter wasn’t doing really great before Elon dynasty. It’s becoming platform of money now and with Elon’s plan to implement paid tweets and premium features of tipping users it could also skyrocket twitters share in no time.

Yes I am also one of the Elon hater but with the time he is doing some shaping to his visions. It takes time to understand him. Though not taking sides we need to go with the flow.

With the tough personality Elon has, I don't think he will choose the first option, as it might hurt his image as an entrepreneur who able to build any kind of company. The saga of buying twitter was catching attention worldwide, and he would look dumb if he sell it with lower price. Imo, the best option for Elon is turning Twitter back into its original form as a normal social media and hiring some professionals who have background directly related to social engineering.

This is not the case with Twitter, because the platform needs urgent solutions. The price offered by Elon Musk to complete the deal exceeds its size as a loss-making company. Twitter has to pay interest on loans worth $ 1.2 billion annually in addition to the principal. Reducing employment and imposing additional fees on users did not contribute to resolving matters as much as it increased their complexity. The deal this time is greater than Elon Musk's ambitions, especially since market competitors will push towards weakening the platform.

Investors had looked into the past about how Elon Musk did to his other companies, some runs well but some did not. But people believe that EM can do better than on this platform, he just needs time to develop and strategies it well. However, we can't also hesitate the possible scenario that acquiring this platform is a mistake as he needs the right people to manage this while firing all the previous employees. Now, the company is in the struggle to adjust and showing negative results which brings people to doubt and ask if Twitter will improve or it collapse.

Thats what business results could have neither its is profitable or something going in negative.No matter how known you are or how rich you are, you are no exemption when it comes to failure.

Do we really think that Elon isnt aware on whats happening? For sure he doesnt want to have those huge losses basing up on what he had invested but we know that there are decisions that we do make

do make out some damage or messes up on what we are trying out to achieve, but well its his business and its his risks to take.Its up to him on how he would be handling it out.

It's his way of trying to manipulate the people with his free will instead of someone who would stop him from his way. Besides, if you have so much money what would you do with it? That's why he bought twitter plus he manipulate the price of Bitcoin and then switched to meme coin then more people are still not learning of what he did although, he gave more profit to those who invested in meme coin but I'm sure he benefited a lot from it because of his hype on that coin.

Twitter may fall for now but watch him what he would do you might be surprised and I don't think he will sell twitter.

Elon Musk of course has high ambitions when buying Twitter, Twitter's first target after buying Elon Musk is to become the biggest social media to beat the others, and from a financial perspective, I want to oblige customers who have a blue tick to pay regularly, unfortunately this is responded negatively by most users.

I would guess that if he is profiting, then even if some of the users are not favoring it, then he is doing the right thing. Remember, this is a business and as long as the business makes a profit, and legally doing so, then that is a good decision.

There is no bad decision that causes a company to profit, or no good decision that loses it profit as well. Obviously there is long term and short term, so he could make a profit short term and lose on the long term, if this is something like that, then it would be bad for him, but only time will show that. I believe that he is not going to keep twitter alive for too long, something else will replace it eventually, but that will take a long time as well.

The only drawback of what was conveyed by the OP is that there are no valid sources to strengthen everything that was conveyed in the Op. Elon Musk is not a person who gives up easily, he is very ambitious in what he wants.
Loss is not the goal of his business, his popularity will allow him to earn more than he has spent. Still remember how he boosted the popularity of dogecoin, I'm sure he's the single biggest whale of the increasing price of dogecoin.

sad to say but it is not only his business fell but also his reputation. due to his inconsistent behavior towards investment and even management as the owner of a company, a lot of investors don't want to risk their money on that. not only he lost his credibility but also a lot of workers refuse to work for him. if I were an employee too I wouldn't risk working for him knowing that there is no guarantee whether we rise or fall depends on our CEO. we all agree that he is a genius when it comes to developing things and predicting the future, also he is a visionary in some sense but does it make him a genius too when handling business? I didn't see any proof so far.

I am not sure if is it about Elons ambitions and his goals, but Twitter is definitely one crazy place and it's becoming even crazier (if that is possible). A lot of weird things happen on Twitter, and hate speech of any kind is like something "normal".

The haters and conspiracy theorists back on Twitter (https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64554381).

I don't think that Twitter will fall, many people make money there in many ways, so there will be enough people to keep it alive...

Well he not only try to sell shares (which i think is not official) but he also tried to sell, office plants to employees (https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-twitter-sell-office-plants-to-employees-costs-bbc-2023-3) That's not enough he also tried to sell the furniture of Twitter like, chairs, etc. and espresso machines. (https://fortune.com/2022/12/09/elon-musk-puts-espresso-machines-eames-chairs-bird-sculptures-at-twitter-hq-on-the-auction-block/). Which i found weird like why he is doing all that. He is not an idiot with money. I think these are his intentions to degrade the employees of Twitter and finally to sell Twitter.

All i can say, he must have some plans or strategies behind these acts. Now the question is what are those plans? Because he made bad decisions like almost everything is undigestible. So i think it was his plan from the start to fail Twitter for all at once. If that happens, then the influencers, celebrities and every other user have to shift to another platform. Then what will be that? like is it will be a product of Elon too. He already shifts people from the human mind to AI. Like making us so dependent on these AI tools.

Totally agreed, if I agree with your scenario then he was really wrong. Like he was mistreating the staff of Twitter plus he made many bad decisions like, blue tick, etc. Which costs big companies to lose a hell lot of money just because of greed of earning 1.9 billion dollars per month (https://www.republicworld.com/technology-news/social-media-news/how-much-would-elon-musks-twitter-earn-if-all-blue-ticks-pay-8-this-will-surprise-you-articleshow.html#:~:text=%241.92%20billion%20every%20month) (ahh well that's enough to make a man greedy) but this feature cost other companies to lose more than 15 billion dollars (https://www.india.com/business/twitter-blue-tick-causes-15-billion-loss-to-pharma-company-heres-how-5739565/), like the pharmaceutical ones.

Companies that faced great loss due to the act Elon, are definitely going to take revenge and I think that's why 14 advertising companies out of 30 have left Twitter. which made it totally worth half of the buying price of 44 billion dollars. (as OP mentioned)

From one of the sources that I read, there are three reasons why Elon Musk wants to buy Twitter and I think the three reasons that I mean are very appropriate and also very natural for Elon Musk so he (Elon Musk) wants to buy Twitter. Because Reporting from the Washington Post, Elon Musk explained that the purchase of Twitter was not solely to make money. Musk mentioned that he doesn't care about the economy.

His intention to buy Twitter was based on his desire to have a public platform that users can trust to the maximum and be broadly inclusive. and the three reasons I mean based on sources from blog.amartha.com (https://blog.amartha.com/resmi-pemilik-twitter-ini-3-alasan-elon-musk-beli-twitter/#:~:text=Platform%20untuk%20Kebebasan%20Berbicara,penting%20untuk%20berbagai%20sudut%20pandang.) are as follows;

• Making Twitter a Trusted Platform
• Platform for Free Speech
• Fighting Bot Proliferation

He is a genius and he will certainly surprise you and everyone.
 

Let's not confuse Elon's eccentric personality with his abilities and virtues, which he clearly has.

Well, Elon Musk is literally a mental giant. This fall of Twitter value may be planned by him. He is always using tricks to manipulate public . I heard this genius businessman is currently investing millions of dollars on AI projects such as, Ai voice changer. It basically provides different types of voice overs. You will be able modify human's voice and change it with multiple options ( like, celebrities voices )
Futhermore, I am pretty sure he will come up with surprises in the near future but not related to Crypto in my opinion. He is no longer interested in this field. He already got what he wanted. But who knows? I might be wrong
However, It would better if you don't follow and believe his posts on anything related to crypto

He’s genius but failing is inevitable because of poor decisions since he is just a human as well.
With this twitter investment, Elon probably made a huge mistake for now but let’s see if they can still have a good bounce back or else Twitter will value less compare to the value that Elon acquired this. There’s a lot of investors that support Elon, that can help him rise again. I’m expecting more hype from him, especially now that the banks are suffering from a big loss.

indeed! i don't think he will ruin his business for nothing. he knows what he's doing so let's just wait what will happen next. he is one of the richest so he won't be in that position if he doesn't know his next steps.

Fall of Twitter? LOL.. Which fall you guys are talking about? I am a regular user of Twitter, and I haven't noticed any large decline in the popularity in this platform. A few months back, Elon was complaining that some of the large advertisers had pulled out, after he purchased the platform. But many of them seems to have returned. And regarding the staff layoffs, it is not just Twitter. Amazon and Google have laid off far more employees when compared to Twitter. And the layoffs happened because these tech firms were overstaffed.

Yes, before the start of the takeover, Elon Musk was aware that he would not immediately profit from Twitter. He is a smart entrepreneur with a lot of success stories. He will keep working and possibly switch some major changes again to Twitter for his long-term objectives. But naturally, he would not restore all of the old Twitter because the company was losing and it was already a failed venture. One of the businesses backing the bid of Elon Musk to acquire Twitter is Binance. They may have a wonderful concept, but they are unable to act at this time owing to the litigation and other issues that Binance has to resolve first.

Nothing bad gonna happen to Twitter. There are still some ads and a lot of people use them. There are a lot of users who came back to the platform because of Elon so the audience is getting bigger and people are interested in Twitter.

I think they will just find a new way to monetize Twitter. Considering how many people are using Twitter every day and creating content on this platform, I don't think it's gonna be a problem.

He is a top businessman in the world, he would never spend such a large amount of money to buy Twitter as a hobby without profit. He wants to make twitter a trusted platform, free speech or fight bots...It's all about providing a comfortable user experience and taking money from users in a way they feel comfortable. The sale of blue ticks is the clearest proof that he bought TW to make a profit and no other second reason. But I see that plan does not fail, people are actively using green ticks, and Facebook has imitated Twitter.

Yeah we actually couldn't figure out yet the real intention of him bought Twitter, especially when he decided to not buy it and somehow changed his mind. I'm not really sure about this, but it might be related to the upcoming US election in 2024. In the previous presidential election in 2020, Twitter was proven censoring some news about Hunter Biden and of course it's an effective way for Democrat Party to support Biden's campaign. I know it's too early to conclude that, so let's see.



In fact he isn't doing what he has planned, which if he really doesn't care about the economy, what's the point of him to charge blue tick for twitter users then. Even it makes Twitter less trusted because anyone could buy that mark now. I think his purpose of buying Twitter is bigger than those lame reasons.

Yes Elon Fish is a very talented person and he knows how to run a business which is why he owns some big companies he bought Twitter I don't see any failing in him.  Because Twitter's market cap has increased by 7.64% this year from last year. But Facebook's marketcap is 13.70x more than Twitter's.  But I think as talented as Elon Musk is, after four/five years Twitter and Facebook will complete head to head in terms of market cap. Twitter being a secure social media has not yet gained as much popularity as Facebook, so Twitter's market cap is much lower than Facebook's.  However, if Twitter is used by big celebrities and heads of government of different countries, Twitter is very valuable in this site.

Competing with Facebook is a long time coming for Twitter.  Because after five years if Twitter goes to Facebook's position today.  But Facebook will not sit in this position for these five years.  After five years, Facebook will have improved a lot and its market cap will increase a lot.  So Twitter cannot be compared to Facebook in any way.  Facebook's new technology Meta is a technology with great potential for the future.  In terms of market cap, Facebook is at number of ranking is 9 but Twitter is at rank 413 which is a huge difference.

In the end we can conclude that Elon Musk bought Twitter as nothing more than a business and what he wants to achieve is a much bigger financial level than before. Whatever other reasons he disclosed or did not convey, in the end, business people still pursue profit and nothing more.

In relation to politics it is absolutely undeniable that he will get something of an advantage even though he has to deal with power and maybe it's still too early to link this relationship, let's see if that has anything to do with this going forward.

It is true that Facebook is currently ahead of Twitter in many terms, but I think that in the long-term, Facebook may fall behind Twitter. Because Twitter platform is much more secure and powerful than Facebook for business and big projects. And since Elon Musk is only just getting started with Twitter, let's see where the latter is ahead of the competition. Moreover, I think one thing is that quality plays a bigger factor than quantity.

Twitter is superior to Facebook in terms of business and big projects, especially regarding crypto and stock indexes but Facebook is still focused on social media to interact in various activities, so the two competitors have different advantages and are not competitive with each other even though both are giant social media, everyone have accounts on both and of course the accounts are in different use cases, but the advantage of twitter is that every artist, project CEO, influencer, has an official account and they are active in responding to the responses on the twitter account.

Yes Twitter is must secure social media that's why must of the reputable person use Twitter and Facebook is used by all common people. For this, Twitter marketcap is less but its reputation is much better than Facebook. After Elon Musk bought Twitter and introduced a paid system for verify badges, many users decided to quit Twitter, but they couldn't because of their huge fan following.  It's ridiculous that elon musk ex girlfriend's account was suspended. Elon Musk is a strange man

do we still think that Twitter had fallen? Nothing like that man and I can't still believe that many people thinks Elon Musk is not an happy man even with what had happened since all these while. I believe Elon Musk knows what he is doing and he's going to get to where is he's expiring to get to soon. There are a lot  of opportunities wait for him to get to where he wants to be and he will surely get there. Even though it looks like his business had fallen but I think he's a wise man that knows how to play his game very well. In few years coming Elon Musk may become the richest again with no one meeting him.

elon musk is indeed a very genius person, many surprising things have been produced from elon's genius (tesla, Paypal, and spaceX). Having big companies like Tesla and Spacex proves that Elon Musk is indeed a genius. even as a child he could make a game called Blaster, since he was a child, Elon Musk has been fond of reading. so it's no wonder that everything that comes out of his mouth and all his actions are always in the spotlight that is hotly discussed.

and now regarding the matter of Twitter which has not escaped controversy, what Elon Musk did from the beginning intending to buy Twitter until the trial and finally buying Twitter, has always been in the spotlight. and lately elon musk has a new problem regarding his new asset (twitter). Twitter is now experiencing a significant decline after several months of being held by elon musk. whether it's intentional or not, but what's certain is that Elon isn't a god, of course he's the same as an ordinary human who has strengths and weaknesses.

Elon Musk, who has been proven to be the world's top businessman, of course, has good experience developing Twitter. If Twitter seems to be falling now, then there will be another strategy from Elon Musk to make Twitter the best social media. Let's wait another 2 or 3 years. What's the big mission? from elon musk can make twitter successful.

Musk is a great entrepreneur. When he really wants to shake up an industry by building a company he does amazing things.




And then there is Twitter. Which was a pure ego buy. Unfortunately the past few years Musk has gotten more and more...eccentric and egomaniacal. Buying Twitter was a pure ego move that was obviously not going to end well. And then he completely gutted the company and turned it into complete chaos.

Musk needs to stick to running the companies he has built rather than stroking his ego by buying other companies thinking he can revolutionize them by gutting them and running them like a looney toon dictator.

Well I do not think Elon was buying twitter with big plans for making profit. He is just wanting to be in control of it and have powers to make changes. He has so much money what does it bother him.
And now he has made source code for Twitters recommendation algorithm public. Making for more transparency for Twitter. https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-makes-content-recommendation-code-public-2023-03-31/

since the controversial purchase of Twitter by Elon Musk, the value of Twitter has slowly declined in the hands of Elon Musk. I agree with you that everyone has their own expertise, Elun Musk has been very successful with Tesla and SpaceX car technology. but doing business in cyberspace, I think it is much different from what he did at his previous company.
Also added to the musk elun policies on Twitter that make Twitter users may leave it

Exactly this. He wants more power and that led to more money in other various areas. Twitter itself doesn't have to be profitable. The effects of having an ownership of Twitter comes with a lot of benefits.

It decline because he had made a lot of change in the company. He had lay off a lot of its employees, and even those in the top position are not even spared ny Elon when he goes full revamp.

And investors doesn't want to see thing happening not just on Twitter or any company for that matter, because it gave them bad connotation. And with that the price plummet as a reflection of that. Anyhow, I think Elon accomplished what he wanted in the beginning, have a social platform that he can used in his favor.

If you do have the money then you could buy everything you do want and on whats up with your interest, most of businessman or billionaires would really be coming after for profits but there are ones who do really go after about their interest.If Elon did buy Twitter for the sake on having that good control about information been shared up or speaking about contents that been shared up then he could do as he do like.
If this new management turns out to be a failure then expect that there would be a loss. Elon is totally aware of it, does it bother that him much? We dont know on whats up into his mind.
There's no way that we could know on whats their next plan.

This is so true. The guy is shockingly smart. He founded SpaceX at the age of 30 I believe. Who the heck would be crazy enough to found a rocket company at that age? And how is he the chief designer for his rockets? I always wondered whether that is really true. Of course he hired engineers, but still that's an unreal achievement. All these companies that he has and how he has the majority control over space due to his satellites.

I am quite sure that he has a plan for Twitter and knows how to turn things around, but he also already admitted that there will be bumps in the road and that they are experimenting, trying to figure out what people might need or want. A lot of the things he founded complement each other. But it's also interesting how consequent he is and that he decided to let OpenAi go because it isn't anymore open source. Usually one would think that everything he does is aiming at becoming richer, but he seems to have some serious principles that he sticks to. Twitter is probably just another piece of a puzzle that he has in mind.

I think he is a genius, it doesn't matter if not all of his efforts are good, at least in some sectors that are recognized and needed by the world, Tesla and Space X are one of them.
but I think he bought twitter for a further purpose and reason that other people don't know about yet.

No question of his geniuses but not all things he can handle, some may not work according to his plan.
Okay, let us assume that he has some intention of acquiring Twitter but can't please some people to believe that it is working well, instead it gains negativity. Exactly, we never know his plan and we hope he shows something more interesting and runs this platform successfully, and make prove the wrong perceptions that most people are seeing now.

I agree with you. A businessman can never expert in everything. Elon Musk may be a better platform creator than Twitter, but he can't do well in Twitter. Because there is a big difference between his way of thinking and the way millions of people think about social communication. Most of the decisions he has taken on Twitter in recent times have not been accepted with the public. It would be good decision if someone who runs social media get the responsibility to conduct the platform.

I just subscribed to Twitter Blue. Well honestly I can't exactly say its worth. It definitely buff you somewhat. I realized my overall interactions increased dramatically. I engage more people. But some things with app is broken. Sometimes I can see tweets of people I don't follow etc. I feel like Elon Musk tries hard to save Twitter but their ad revenue was important. He should definitely make Twitter Blue more desirable. I subbed for a year just to see what he is gonna do. He should change algorithms. I like some things he did with blue like customization etc but you should let people to do much more to have loyal subs.

Sadly, not everything is done with money and business. Yes, Elon Musk has got everything when it comes to money and intelligence, but he is a big failure when it comes to humanity. Well, if he has been being selfless and compassionate in the first place, he would have succeeded his new owned business in the name of Twitter, but i guess his being anti-social media have made negative effect on the business and now its near to its downfall. I just hope that Elon Musk will still manage his other businesses to skyrocket again just like before he bought Twitter.

I would say you shouldn't have done that, not because of anything related to Elon Musk, I mean the owner of a place you use doesn't really matter all that much, but because blue doesn't really give you anything worthy.

Depends on where you live, most people in the USA wouldn't even bat an eye on 8 bucks a month, that's nothing to them, but there are people living with 200-300 dollars a month salaries, so it wouldn't be possible for those people to justify that much money, wouldn't make sense. Plus the free version is still free and you still get to use it however you want without any trouble. Unless they start to use limitations to non-blue people, then it just doesn't worth it.

I really find Elon Musk very clever in the way he attracts the public's attention with what he does. Yesterday I saw a lot of people talking about dogger :) , is this a joke or a complete change to how twitter works in the future.
Some say he's destroying the corporation with the changes he's made since he got it, but I see the point is that he has likes and dislikes so it's up to debate what he's doing what seems to be a never ending story.

I have no concern, new businesses don't just start making profit immediately they get launched. Although twitter isn't a new business but it's under a new administration so their new policy might crash the price but with time it'll recover and start making profits. Elon musk is a very successful entrepreneur and a business man.

Elon musk has made all the businesses he has been a part of very successful including the cryptocurrency market through his direct involvement with dogecoin so twitter will be profitable as his other businesses in due time. Already we have started seeing new improvement on the bird app.

Think about Elon Musk really being a creator of Dogecoin or hold a huge amount of it. Recently he has switched Twitters blue bird logo to Dogecoin and altcoins price instantly reacted with +30% growth. Just imagine that he has bought a costly instrument, that can in short period increase assets value for 30% and he can use that instrument when ever he wants and as many times he wants. It does not matter then Twitters value decreases, when he can increase his other assets value.

Of course we can't judge what Elon Musk did on Twitter, he bought at the beginning of the year or just about 3 months, I'm sure a big impact will be seen at least a year or early 2024, but there is something unique about Twitter today because it uses the Doge logo when loading page.

It seems to me that the logo will be temporary and leave the bird that was before. The next step is probably to buy a premium account using dogecoin.I don’t see any more special use yet.The fact that we can expect another pump is a fact, but what will happen next is very difficult to say.At the moment, it looks more like price manipulation and not a real case of introducing a dogecoin to twitter.

Since elon musk buy twitter there are a lot things change. I think he know what he want to do with twitter. Actually he can use it for for his own benefit. Just like few hours ago he change twitter logo into doge. The result is doge raise about 24% according to coingecko. Dont underestimate elon musk.

In Doge Coin we have seen a big pump event due to putting the Doge Coin logo instead of Twitter's original logo. But many are confused about whether Twitter really wants to keep Doge Coin in its logo? I didn't get clear idea about this yet. I think if something like happen it may be a temporary pump for Doge Coin but will fail to sustain the price long term. If any feature is made to utilize Doge Coin then it will help to increase the price. However, I have not come across any authentic news on this matter yet.  A review of the last 7 days shows that the coin has seen a price increase of around 32 percent.

A big person like him will have a big impact or influence if you make a short information for everyone because there are people who will monitor what will turn out to be profitable later. But be careful with your choice because elon musk isn't a god who makes information that will generate profits later. You have to analyze a lot in the future.

Sometimes he's just speculating, just like us. But because he is a world figure so many will follow him. Let say if elon musk suddenly makes a big investment in one of the crypto coins, then everyone will buy it so the coin will experience a drastic pump.

We were all confused, and Elon was the only one who knew what was happening with doge. Twitter and dogecoin are becoming Elon's playground, and he is controlling it all. Not only bitcoin but this entire crypto market is unpredictable. Many people think that Elon will give up on Doge after making a profit, but so far, it is slowly becoming part of the social network, and if it becomes a payment method for TW, it will be even crazier. Investing in doge is like gambling, and Elon is the dealer, so anyone willing to take the risk can try it.

Elon Musk's success in many companies, of course, cannot be a measure of whether Twitter can be successful or not. This is our consideration that many of the things we want don't always match. Twitter is a unique business, so we need people with good ideas who can sustain it. or make twitter successful.

The reputation of Elon Musk as the world's top businessman is undoubtedly, when the acquisition of Twitter, of course Elon Musk has a long -term consideration and plan, many say that Elon Musk makes Twitter lose and abandoned by users, in my opinion because it is still not long ago of course we cannot say that Elon Musk fail.

Everyone should not be underestimated because everyone has the ability within themselves. Moreover, people like Elon Musk who have a lot of capabilities and are very tested in the field of business. Currently Elon Musk is included in the people who have influence on what he says even though not all of them can have such a large influence, but on average it seems that there is little influence that he can create in some things now.

Elon Musk only does work that he loves and is capable of so there is nothing wrong with him although it is also not necessary for everyone to follow in his footsteps in terms of doing business and also in terms of crypto. Because basically everyone only cares about their own benefit in any case, including people like Elon Musk. So obviously there's no need to make him any god in any case as long as we can still make our own analysis of everything.

He speculated and immediately executed something, which meant he had the ability to do it so well that a part of the followers who already believed in him so much would also do the same thing. So it's natural that there are different things that happen to what he's saying like in the crypto coin example and also in the Doge example two years ago.

After firing over half the staff and destroying the ability for Twitter to operate, and making Twitter implement bizarre ideas, now seemingly the only thing Musk has left is cheap stunts like changing the logo to the Doge logo. He's destroyed Twitter and is now just trying to use it to once again manipulate people into buying Dogecoin but most people have moved on from his market manipulating ways so he'll never be able to create the sort of Doge pump he did in 2021.


I feel like we are all watching the very public train wreck of a billionaire's psyche. Musk went from iconic entrepreneur and visionary to market manipulator and s**tcoin pumper to crazed conspiracy theorist to buying a very popular company/service just to destroy it for an ego trip. Now he's just trying to combine these checkmarks on his way to insanity trying to manipulate markets and pump a s**tcoin by associating it with the company he decided to buy and destroy.

Honestly at this point, if Musk weren't rich, his friends would probably be having an intervention for him and trying to get him to check into a mental facility. Dude has gone off the rails and it is pathetic at this point.

I think yes it is one good option but Speculation should be used with care and responsibly.

I am using it on the daily basis and I haven't noticed that Twitter stopped operating since they fired big portoion of their stuff meaning they probably had bunch of people not doing much anyway.  


You really think that someone who has ~$200 billion cares sbout few millions of dollars that he can make by pump & schemes? He is not doing it for the money, he is simply doing it for the lolz. Don't get me wrong, I am not fun of Musk at all but I think that people  are giving him way more attention that he deserves, and that's exactly why he is doing all this crap.

In other news, Doge logo has been removed from Twitter and naturally price went down instantly.  :D

Yet here we aare Muck this and Musk tht, but Twitter is still going on. Having said that, I recently spoke with a Twitter employee that is very hard working and tries his best and he litereally said "I go there every day just hoping that nothing is going to happen, because we do not have the people and resources to solve it if it happens". that it Elon's doing to Twitter.

All business moguls have their prime, and they will stay there until they make a minor error that might cause the entire structure to collapse. Since Elon Musk bought Twitter, I believe Twitter has become less interesting to me. I can read comments from some businesses complaining about the new revenue model, which is inconvenient for them, and Twitter has also developed into a platform for propaganda under the guise of free speech. The organization has to be reevaluated, especially with regard to the blue tick they use to verify customers and businesses. Otherwise, they risk failing when their rivals start producing something more interesting than theirs.

I sure with Elon Musk replacing twitter logo not all business but also he wants have to enjoyed with that moment, I don't think he will stop make another thing for replacing twitter logo with new coins later. He spent much money for buying Twitter social media platform how to make him easy when controlling some thing and explore what he wants.

There are trues about many people give Elon Musk large space and public attention for making him enjoyed, but he has been richest person and become public attention and seems difficult how to make many people stop following with his joke because many business or stock increasing up when he has tweet.

After all its his company and he had bought it.Whatever logo he would be putting it out on replacing that bird icon then its none of our business.Its his own company and he does have all the power on what he

should do.It is really just that criticisms and lots of hearsaying about on what happened without even trying out to think that its his possession which means that he does have the full control.

Fall or not with this company then its none of our business.Its impossible that he isnt aware on what currently happening in his companies that he had bought.Sure thing that on what he does have in mind is
to live up on the life according into his likings and interest.Even if these things turns out to not to be good on someones eyes then who cares?

I guess you haven't been reading the news over the past 6 months about all the problems Twitter has had keeping it up and running well. Musk fired a ton of critical personnel, not "people not doing much anyway" lol. It's been widely reported all the issues they've had including issues where literally there was nobody left to deal with problems because entire teams had been let go, and Twitter not running well at times. They are barely even able to operate as a company anymore and the engineers are forced to implement whatever random hairbrained idea pops into Musk's head at any given moment, only to have to roll it back when its a massive failure. That has already happened numerous times since Musk took over. As well as having to shut down certain services on Twitter.

And I never said anything about Musk trying to make money off his Doge pumps. I said he is using his influence to manipulate markets, and the type of people who follow Musk and would buy a meme coin thinking it has some future are highly gullible. He is playing with regular people's finances and shilling a crappy meme coin purely to stroke his own ego. Exactly, he is doing is for the lolz, and messing with people's lives just for that. It's pathetic. Musk is every day more and more of an egomaniacal joke. He used to be a visionary entrepreneur, but he let his success go to his head and now he is just a narcissistic joke with billions of dollars and massive influence to f**k with people's lives just, as you say, for the lolz (aka stroking his ego).

I think the title is actually too harsh because we can't say that Twitter has fallen yet although it's not as organised as it used to be. Elon Musk actually paid far more than Twitter's worth so he has a lot of work to do to make Twitter attractive to everyone so he can achieve his goal of making twitter an online town hall where people's voice can be heard.

Elon Musk has a genius mind. so that sometimes his thoughts are one step further ahead of us. but after all he is an ordinary person. and he also must have things that are outside of his plans. but I think he will not easily make mistakes. Even behind the purchase of Twitter, I think there is a big agenda behind it that we don't know about. so don't be surprised if he suddenly makes a move we can't understand at all and looks ridiculous.

which must be acknowledged by anyone with what is done by elon musk, as a businessman everything that is purchased will be maximized so that it can produce something for the benefit of his business. Twitter has changed a lot with what it did as its newest innovation, even though it looks like something phenomenal, Elon Musk has a business purpose. I agree with you, Elon Musk is indeed a genius whose ideas are sometimes very unpredictable so it really happens very easily what he does.

Do we still think that Twitter had fallen? No, not even possible now that Elon Musk had taken over. Even with the current conditions that looks like the company is passing through a serious problem, with time everything would still be over and more money would be made. One thing I like about Elon Musk is that he knows how to get what he want through various means which is not always a problem to him. Let's give Elon few  years from now and we are going to see how much he would be making from Twitter since he had already enforce a strategy that would be giving him consistent profits.

Elon Musk is a well-known businessman, he will not enter into a business that he has not thought about carefully, because there will be no big companies if he is not a smart businessman.
Also, in the event that twitter social media apps go bankrupt or close, they are also prepared to lose or lose business. Although, I don't even agree with the rules he made on twitter, but those are his rules and strategy as a company owner and we can't do anything about it.

I really don't know the main reason he bought Twitter in the first instance and not more than a year of planning to sell.

Elon is full of drama with hidden agendas. He will not allow his business to fail that easily especially if it involved a huge capital. He will not allow his efforts to be gone so for sure, he will find ways to enlarge his business or rather make big profits from it in the future. He is a business-minded and strategic person and he knows what he's been doing. He's just not too outspoken when it comes to Twitter nowadays. I'm sure that he has bigger plans for it after changing the management and replacing lots of staff.

Most of people I have seen talking about this purchase agree that Elon actually overpaid for Twitter, so he cannot sell unless he is willing to take a loss. Since we know he has a big enough ego and he is a businessman, taking losses is something he would like to avoid at all cost.

For not, he plans (besides messing around with the platform) to slowly gather money from people paying for verification, besides the advertisers which still are around.

I have personally still found ads, so that is good news for Elon, and his fans are more than willing not only to buy his perfume but also pay for the blue check mark.  Not expecting him to sell in much time.

It cannot be hidden that Twitter is not going through its best times after the number of advertisers decreased (including 10 of the 32 most important advertisers on the platform). And I think that Musk has not yet shown that he is able to manage the platform and get it out of its crisis. In Elon Musk's previous projects, he did not meet much competition and was able to leave the world in a period of anticipation, but the matter is certainly different with social media platforms that require a periodic update and face fierce competition from giant companies. Do not forget that Twitter is going through financial crises before Musk offers to buy it.

Whoever the owner of the company doesn't matter to those who are verified since they also knew that even if the company fell somehow it has enough foundation built already to rise again. Besides, no owner would want their business to be destroyed not unless there's some personal issues involve, so changing owners from Elon to someone is not really a big deal to them, they're only hoping there would be changes to come and hopefully it is not someone who mess around like Elon did.

I don't know if it's intentional or not but as what I have seen on Elon's behavior, at first, he will let everyone mock him and then exceed their expectation after some time then brag about it for not believing him. He always does this even on his conference and such, but the main thing is that investing into him is like investing on his mood too. Yes, he is a genius it is undeniable fact, but the way his attitude towards things and his views which is very eccentric that most people find it hard to handle and understand. This kind of behavior is acceptable only if you are not the main command of something, but in his situation in which he is the owner of a credible company, people will hesitate to invest into this kind of inconsistency.

Well now Twitter is partnered with Etoro to have users able to buy and sell stocks and crypto. It will only be done on mobile.

I would not feel safe and want to do it on my home computer.  I do not think I would buy Bitcoin on twitter but there are so many people on twitter.  It is good 'bullish" news for us with crypro.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2023/04/13/twitter-will-let-users-buy-stocks-and-crypto-as-elon-musk-pushes-for-everything-app/?sh=210c3c506882

As a big businessman, Elon Musk has done a thorough analysis of everything he will do and nothing as a big businessman wants to lose. I agree that Elon Musk must have a hidden agenda that has been carefully designed with the team that has been helping him all this time. whatever has happened has been done with twitter is the same situation as what was done with tesla, there is always an intrigue done to give a surprise effect that will have a positive impact on his business.
Elon Musk will always give strength in every effort so that there is a trend that will occur and make the prestige increase and have an impact on the profits that will be received.

I don't know why there is so much hype about Twitter failing. From what I can see, Twitter looks as good as it was before the takeover. Elon reportedly fired close to 90% of the former employees, but as of now it looks as if the platform works without any issues. I haven't noticed any significant downtime or data breaches despite the layoffs. And this means that most of these employees were not being productive earlier and Twitter was overstaffed. One thing that may trouble Elon is the boycotting campaign from some of the advertisers. I am sure that he will get around it.

There was such a rumor spreading all over the world but Twitter has been able to slowly recover from that position. I would say that Twitter is in a good position right now. I don't know why people criticize about Twitter from negative aspects, i got one issue that maybe when Elon Musk thought about selling the company at a lower price, at that moment there was a lot of negative thought about it. But according to my knowledge that situation no longer exists. I think Twitter has been able to maintain its reputation in the social media platform all over the world.

just think of the idea that musk won't acquire this social media platform if he knows he can't control this according to his plans. such expensive acquisition so he won't just sit back and relax if he knows one of his companies is in the brink of failure.
so yeah, there will be ups and downs but definitely he knows what he needs to do to gain profits from this acquisition.

Elon is a business mogul, his existence in the business sector is not something that just started yesterday. A few times we've seen this man's assets decline but always come back stronger in an unexpected way without a single blink. Indeed a strong man in the game.

Musk is trying to keep twitter on the ear, it's a marketing component. The fact that there were many layoffs, perhaps this was a forced step so that he could rebuild it in his own way. Musk is a successful businessman, it will not be difficult for him to benefit from this direction. How many diverse businesses he manages to run and in each he manages to achieve success, not everyone will succeed.

Elon has a plan on twitter about X app, the everything app like we chat like we can pay, socialize, communicate, and ETC in one app. I haven't heard any developments on it for sure; they are still reading Twitter codes and studying it, but eventually that will happen for sure as that is a possible thing unless there are hindrances. Also, Elon stated that if they build the X app from scratch, it will take them more years, so to save time, he bought Twitter.

It's interesting to see how the actions of one individual, even someone as powerful as Elon Musk, can have such a significant impact on a company like Twitter. This situation highlights the importance of considering the perspectives and needs of all stakeholders, including users and advertisers, in making business decisions. It also emphasizes the potential consequences of disregarding those perspectives, such as loss of revenue and reputation.

Well now Elon Musk is getting closer to making Twitter the 'everything app'.  The 3 US states of New Hampshire, Michigan, and Missouri gave their approval for money transmitting licenses.
This has been a plan of Elon Musk since last year a month after he bought it. I think only a matter of time when we will be sending crypto to each other on Twitter.
https://cryptoslate.com/twitter-stepping-up-its-payment-game-now-licensed-money-transmitter-in-3-states/ 

Elon musk has above average intelligence so that every thing he does is sometimes difficult for us to guess which direction his real goal is. But as you said sending each other crypto via twitter is getting closer. And even then it seems that was the plan from the start.

And what's interesting about Elon is that people seem to trust him a lot. he seems to have the charisma of a leader that makes people want to follow him. Even recently there was a poll conducted by Harvard University where the results were surprising, namely Elon Musk is one of the most liked figures in the US. even seems to surpass Joe Biden. isn't that amazing.

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Do you think Threads will be a serious competitor of Twitter? People are eager to try new apps but also some old habits don't change easily.
I feel like Twitter was a dying place way before Threads and now they have to compete with them. Maybe the real fight between Musk and Zuckerberg is this one.

Well I do think Threads will be a serious competitor for Twitter. I know lots of people who are now using Threads more then Twitter, it is just a safer place online. And it is new and we like new things.
Threads is already very popular. There was 70 million signups 24 hours after it launched. Still much less compared to Twitter with 450 Million users but a good start for them.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/07/metas-twitter-rival-threads-surpasses-50-million-signups-screenshots.html

First of all, we must remember that Elon Musk is not a perfect businessman, and in his history there have been both successful and unsuccessful projects. This means that we cannot assume that "everything Elon Musk touches becomes PayPal/Tesla/Space-X"...

Secondly - social networks are a separate world with its own characteristics, and it is far from technological solutions. As I have already written - my assumption is that this is an attempt to "jump-start" a major social network in order to make a profit, and not only in terms of money, but also in terms of information management and the formation of certain narratives in the community. Yes, I don't exclude that Elon Musk is also building a political career, and for that "own" audience is very necessary

Actually, Elon Musk has started monetizing Twitter and it's going just fine for him.
A lot of people use Twitter, a lot of people don't know how much Twitter means to them, and I'm not talking of just businesses or companies and so on, I'm talking of common individuals. People who interact and spend time on Twitter. These people might just be seen interacting on Twitter, but they get a lot of updates from the app. News and sports channels report their news on Twitter, and crypto companies and almost every other company drop their updates on Twitter, they even drop links to the full stories.

People can keep up on a particular news update without actually watching the news if they have a reliable source on Twitter. Elon Musk knows this and he knows that there are people that are willing to pay to keep using this service.
Definitely, he will make mistakes, but he will learn from them, and he will get what he wants.

Recently he tried something to see how it will work, I guess he was just testing the waters. He knows what he's doing.

Let me start with the first part of the first line, you must have overrated the leadership of Elon Musk's Twitter, it's as a matter of fact negative on the microblogging app, no wonder people sacked him with a vote. And for the record, there is no time that Twitter wasn't monetized, the only difference now is that Elon wants to monetize it more by forcing some people to pay for the benefits they derived from it despite earning from ads. This, as a matter of fact, is not bad, but his approaches and clear excesses are, and they also annoy people. Has it worked for him, Never! Twitter is retrogressing under him.

I see people beyond what they claim they are and have never hidden my reservation for the guy on this forum. Overbearing people and those with authoritative tendencies are never my thing. People might have preferences on Twitter for some reason, but that doesn't mean people do not have alternatives if he continues to choke them.

Thankfully, Threads is another exact microblogging alternative that is threatening Twitter, and if care is not taken and Musk doesn't apply wisdom, then the impact would be severe.

At the beginning of its appearance, Threads will definitely attract the interest of many users who want to try it. So to make a more effective assessment, it takes time to wait until the Threads platform is running for at least 1 year. and we'll see if its popularity will continue to stabilize, decrease or continue to increase. After that, we will see whether Threads will be able to compete with Twitter or will it just be an ordinary application that is not very popular.
My guess is that Threads still won't top Twitter. Although the rules on Twitter are getting stricter. But we are used to and comfortable in its use every day. So I think it will take more time for Threads if it is to ever be on par with Twitter. And to be honest I'm still comfortable with Twitter to this day.

It's wrong to acknowledge thread as a treat to twitter because Elon limited daily views for Twitter users. That's the main reason Zuckerberg copied twitter and changed logo and name to thread. He didn't work for it, he stole another person's idea and intellectual property, it doesn't make sense. Most people will run back to twitter after a while of using thread. It'll just get the fame like truth social did when people started opting out of twitter because of the new update. It'll be hard for thread to beat twitter, not now.

Zuckerberg's social media is receiving a lot of negative feedbacks from the Twitter's community, because it's being spotted as a "safe area" for the beautiful people from the mainstream media to interact with each other. For common people it's just an artificial environment, which may not have the same toxicity of Twitter, but at same time doesn't offer any encouragement or attractiveness to make them stay there for too long.

I also don't think this new social media, Threads, doesn't have enough potential to beat Twitter.

Exactly! It doesn't even deserved to be called as the Twitter's competitor just because of it's similarities and that's just unrealistic to think, we all know that Twitter has been in the world for quite some time now and it will turn to its 20th year this 2026. This Thread will not even surpass half of the Twitter's achievements, not even a bit, it's just that people are dying to try what it can do but yes I agree, after a few months, they will all go back to Twitter.

You know in full honesty twitter could've survived had none of these changes came through. It was a solid app back then that does its things, granted the existence of bots in that app is fucking horrendous but at the same time it's not as bad as it is now. Plus the fact that the very thing he promised he will eradicate (bots on twitter) is still far from becoming a reality even when you purchase those blue fucking checks that costs around 10 dollars in some countries. So basically what this looks like is Elon, having realized that he's in a negative net profit after belligerently buying twitter from its old executives, and then firing them off all at the same time, is trying to break even in profits by making the common people pay for it with those blue checks.

Don't even get me started with his beef against Threads lmao, he literally dug his own grave the moment he dropped essential employees of twitter.

One thing I hate about the internet despite how helpful it was is that people easily buy hype-based news which is mainly to get people's attention towards something that didn't worth it or make them feel a certain thing is a competitor to others.
Apart from Twitter's achievement and long span in the social media business. The threads seem to be created for the designer, engineer, and product manager than being used as social media. Besides, people will have to join the pay plan to have a good user experience on the Threads microblogging website.

Threads hit 70 million users in its short run, but that's just the result of the crowd's curiosity effect and doesn't reflect it better than Elon's social network.  it will be a very interesting contest between two tech billionaires, I have also tried using Threads and really nothing stands out and is more useful than Twitter.  it's too early to say if Threads can surpass Elon's Twitter, yes, we need more time.

Yesterday, I also tried to download and experience the Threads social network, but I had to delete it less than an hour later. It can be said that it has nothing outstanding or superior to Twitter, everything is almost 90% similar. This is actually a duplicate and without any improvements. What's going on is just people's temporary curiosity. I also believe everything will return to normal soon with Twitter, people will remove that terrible Threads app soon.

Absolutely, this should be one of the real fights that Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg are planning. The fight will be about who controls and is more influential than the others in the social media world.  Threads upon against Twitter.

The primary Twitter rival at the moment is Thread. It already has millions of users who have registered. That ought to be a good indication that Twitter should be aware that a formidable rival has challenged her and has the advantage of operating without fees in comparison to her. Even yet, it will take some time for Thread to catch up to Twitter. But We'll bet to wait and watch if Threads becomes more popular than Twitter in the coming years.

I think so.

But not until Twitter has got something to show and offer to its users. I've got a lot of my friends on my socials that did tried as soon as the announcement of Threads came.

Anyway, not me. I'm not into it and I'm too lazy to make new socials just as Threads. I do see the new opportunity for being one of the early sign ups there but just too lazy about it.

Honestly, I think that they're capitalizing their bout into introduction for something like this and Mark did already done his counterpart. Maybe Elon has got one too but who knows.

Threads is real competence to Twitter. Meta could've made plans about threads long back and kept it confidential. All of the sudden launched threads, if this had been revealed earlier Elon Musk might've worked on some changes. Anyhow the real competence is here. Twitter have got more than a billion users whereas threads have reached more than 50 million users within the few days of its launch. Lets see how good things were happening with these two. The premium that needs to be paid for Twitter and other paid services will have some cut in the price in the upcoming months so to keep its users than moving to the threads with more features.

Well now Threads just reached 100 Million users. It took only 5 days for this very big number to pass. And still it is not available in Europe. 

This is compared to ChatGPT that took 2 months for 100 Million users. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12282593/Metas-Twitter-killer-app-Threads-passes-100million-users-five-days.html

With this competition, of course, this becomes even more interesting and maybe it will make Twitter discourage its intention regarding the policy of restrictions in a number of ways,
but it must also be admitted that Threads is truly amazing the number of users is so large and Threads can reach it in just a few days from its launch,
hope there will be a breakthrough from each of these applications.

Mark Zuckerberg isn't new to the social media business and although his Platforms has been met with criticism of restricting freedom of speech yet he still gets lots of individual to keep using his platforms. Meta's Facebook is still be used by millions of individual even when it's kind of outdated and out of fashion when you compared Facebook to the new social media designs. Instagram is preferably to celebrities and he'll use that to his advantage in promoting thread.

Thread just crossed 100 millions users and this won't have been possible if the platform is worst, curiosity is helping in attracting people to the social platforms and if mark Zuckerberg has captivating features he'll retain users and also attract new registration in the future.

I'm not shocked by Thread's 100 million increase in just 5 days. Given that everything in Thread is linked to Instagram when signing up, it will be possible and simple for it to achieve 100 million users within 5 days. 1 billion users can even be possible within a month

I enjoy the competition Thread is holding on Twitter. This kind of competition is used to determine who would lead capitalism. Competition like this will continue to happen from different angles to test who remains on top

THREAD is both a Twitter substitute and a rival at the same time. It may not resemble Twitter perfectly or even be close to it at first, but it is still an option.

Twitter and Thread are two likely social media platforms, but whether they succeed or fail depends on us, the users and supporters, not Mark Zuckerberg or Elon Musk.

We, the users and followers, will decide which eventually fades or increase in momentum on social media. The kind of ecosystem Elon Musk and Mark established, the cruise we all take generates billions of dollars in revenue for them. Although We don't envy their extraordinary intelligence. Elon Musk shouldn't rely on Social Media investment to remain on top of the richest human list without challenge.

Mark Zuckerberg is not on the dick-measuring contest that is the Richest Person rank (top 2), so it does not make any sense to phrase it from that perspective. This is more of two platforms and their CEOs locking horns with each other [no seriously, what is Elon's job title at Twitter at this point?] and we can also expect Elon to order new features to be rolled out on Twitter in response to Threads adding more stuff.

I also don't think that Threads will ever be able to rival Twitter. Maybe the wave of curiosity of people who want to try Threads at this time is quite a lot. But yeah this won't last long. Because when people have finished trying, they will definitely leave. unless they find comfort in using those Threads. Because I personally also just want to try Threads to satisfy my curiosity. But if the Threads platform offers usability that Twitter doesn't then maybe Threads can compete with Twitter. but if there is no significant difference then it will not be too strong to compete with Twitter which already has a lot of users.

Twitter's new rules to buy verified batches with money are considered unfair by users, and many have started leaving Twitter for this, and Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg took advantage of this opportunity.  Threads as an alternative to Twitter has already been downloaded more than 50 million times from playstore and millions of times for other OS as well.  Mark Zuckerberg thinks they will make it more popular than Twitter and have more market value than Twitter in a very short period of time. Now it remains to be seen what new decisions Elon Musk makes for Twitter's development

if Elon was a friend of Epstein he might just have a huge dick. seem not.

if politicians like Trump get censored in Threads, people i think will still choose Twitter. its the reason why Elon bought Twitter, it's for his political games while in Threads, there are only kids there who used to be on Instagram that already lost in the game by Tiktok. twitter though was in decline so there will be a competition between those 2 apps.

Everytime I click on a crypto related trending topic the first thing I see is scammers and bots with blue checkmarks at the top of the results. Allowing random people to pay for greater visibility has ruined the user experience. It's hard to find useful information among all the trash blue checkmark accounts that pay their way into users' feeds. That's just one of many issues plaguing the site since Musk's takeover.


It's common for social networks to copy each other. Remember Fleets? It was a feature that Twitter copied from Snapchat. The "For You" feed is an attempt at replicating something similar to TikTok's For You page where they push viral content on you along with content that an algorithm decided you would be interested in. There is also Spaces which is something they copied from Clubhouse.

I anticipated problems the moment he bought a Twitter account because he believed he could use it to manage Twitter in the same way he does with altcoin projects, but there is still plenty to learn. I think the prior owner of Twitter might not provide those secrets to him, and believe it or not, if further time passes without action, the previous owner will return to acquire back Elon Musk's company. His issues began when he fired those employees, who, in my opinion, formed the backbone of Twitter and were better equipped to run it than the people he now employs, not to mention the limitations he imposes on them. As for me, I never imagined he would act in such a way without first investigating the Twitter algorithm before firing any employees.

It's crystal clear that Twitter has been declining since Mr Musk took over. 
With $8 a month, you can have a verified account on Twitter.  That's absurd when you think about the fact that a lot of people get information from Twitter Usually this information comes from verified accounts and for you to be a verified account you have to be vetting and to an extent.
I can get a blue tick today and proceed to scam people with it because some don't understand that a blue tick today just means how long you can keep paying $8.
Aside from that,  the app just keeps recycling the same tweets for you even after you refresh.  You see tweets from people you don't follow and accounts you don't have an interest in.  You don't even see tweets of your mutual the way you used to anymore. 
I believe Musk will find a way to keep his app to keep generating money for him but if any of the newly launched apps stays long enough at this rate,  it might take over the market from Twitter.

      -  Those subscriptions of 8$ a month are surely the beginning of Elon Musk's twitter problem. I realized that this is exactly what will happen and twitter will have problems, I was not wrong, because of course for several years the twitter users got used to not paying anything every month, then in a flash there will be all of a sudden. Of course, it's just common sense that if I'm the user of twitter apps, I won't use them, I'll use them on other platforms.

Because like Facebook, it doesn't charge its users a monthly subscription, because Zuckerberg still earns a lot from the million people who use FB. We don't know if this Musk became so wild with money that he thought of such subscriptions on Twitter.

As of 3 days ago, Threads hit over 100 million users, that's about 3 days after the microblogging app was launched. This should definitely tell you something, and for the record, how many people had left Facebook and Instagram to the extent that the platforms feel it? Mark my word, 'Threads has come to stay as a viable competitor of Twitter.' The Rivalry will continue as long as God knows when.

Elon Musk has proved himself not a worthy person to own Twitter with his overbearing approaches after taking over, this should help Threads. And for Meta to have been in the system already is another plus for it.

It hasn't been a year since Elon Musk acquired Twitter and I think it's still too early to say Twitter is a failure, with proven business experience I'm sure Twitter will rise soon and be the leading social media, moreover, the huge financial support makes Twitter do everything it can to be the best.

Twitter was at its peak already when Elon acquired it in a $40B deal. He's got plans on it but we will never know when is going to be the execution of it.

Well, it's tough to say that when Meta is also doing something in expanding their business share in the market of social media. We've seen them make a new social network and within just 5 days, it has gathered 100 million users. That's hard to beat.

Actually, we shouldn't be too surprised by the growth in the number of users on the Threads Platform because the number will indeed be very easy to continue to grow. because everyone who has an Instagram account will be able to directly access and import their Instagram account to Threads. The ease of access is what makes it easy for people to try Threads.

For now, Threads still has a lot to add. Because there is no thread edit feature, no DM and many more. Even on Playstore (in my country area) I see the rating is still in the 3+ range. The point is user satisfaction who tried it is still not too high. Everyone who is active on social media on Instagram, the majority will definitely try Threads. because even from the Threads Application to Instagram we can switch applications with just one click on the Instagram icon in the upper right corner of Threads. so that Instagram users can certainly move between applications easily.
the initial launch is still in the hype. so let's watch a year from now. if the number continues to grow rapidly and active users can also survive the extraordinary increase as it is today then of course Twitter will panic at that time.

Twitter users can expect it to be more generous under Elon Musk at least if his promise sticks, Twitter will be seen as more open. But employees began to be fired but it's hard to get an overall picture of how Twitter users view the whole thing right now. Whether Twitter users will take kindly to this, or leave Twitter, may soon begin to show. And everything depends on the decision of Elon Musk most of the social media have spread these. This business idea of masks can be called a kind of bet. Mask's choice is cryptocurrency. He may bring forward transactions in the virtual currency of bitcoin.

It's always good to have a platform alternative. This brings competition. Here we see a strong alternative. A lot of users joined the platform in a short time. Of course, this is due to the ease of registration method.

Elon is losing too many users with the choices he made. These users did not leave twitter and go to the other application. They currently have accounts in both apps.

The question is, will users who get angry with twitter return to twitter again or will they stay in the new application and close their twitter accounts?

I hope the purchase of Twitter is not like the purchase of Yahoo which failed, Elon Musk has creative ideas so it is our hope to see Twitter become the leading social media, of course the transfer process is not easy because Elon Musk has replaced many employees at Twitter.

I bet those who think twitter isn't good enough have found a new platform in threads which is even more censored than twitter. May be only then they will start appreciating what twitter and Elon has to offer. I think @op you exaggerated too much with the topic. Twitter is as good if not better than what it use to be, elon is making sure of freedom of speech and reducing the level of bot account unlike before.

At the first launch of Threads I think Elon lost a lot of users though not completely,
we know for ourselves that in just a few days Threads can be said to attract a lot of people and that's good because it will give competition,
I think Twitter is still ahead as long as Elon doesn't impose restrictions which will make users angry.

Too much bad steps taken by Elon Musk is badly affecting Twitter but we should not think that Twitter will not re-strategize to overcome the challenges. A new management has been announced last month and Linda Yaccarino has the good record of turning a company around and monetize it like what Elon Musk want, the approach have to be different to avoid more problem. The fixing can take time and thing may look very ugly than this but Twitter will not leave for any other, it will continue to manage the good audience it has been enjoying on the platform.

It is Elon Musk and the new CEO who should be careful with their utterances and mode of forcing new policies and features on people, this is not going down with the masses that built Twitter to this level. Angering people with a platform like Twitter can not go down well with anyone.

I think threads is actually a good alternative to Twitter since it's already connected to IG. Since in some countries like mine which is PH, Facebook is much more popular app to use which is handled by Zuckerberg. That's why I think people would jump to threads as they will try the new feature where they can compare to Twitter. But we all know Twitter have its side where there's no restricted thing there. The reason why people loved to use Twitter. After they use threads they will just back to Twitter. Even without Elon Musk I still believe that Twitter will be an independent app where a lot of users love.

Perhaps the option to fire employees was not a good one, but it was the most logical step to reduce costs, because he would not be able to pay them after losing that huge amount to complete the deal at a time when the platform has not been profitable for years. 
I think it's not a good move, but it's not wrong anyway.  There are expectations that there is a will to increase the number of employees if the platform succeeds in overcoming its current crisis, especially since other Elon Musk companies do not make profits either.

Yes, Twitter is going down. Elon Musk has continuously negative changes that worsen our experience while using the app. Imagine him implementing temporary limits on reading posts, which restricts the number of posts users can view per day based on their account type. He implement this temporal limits without even thinking that this would hinder users from accessing information. This would not in any way encourage people to purchase Twitter Blue as he thinks. The monetization efforts of Twitter, such as charging $8 a month for Twitter Blue and making certain features exclusive to paid users is the most stupidest idea. People are leaving Twitter soon, it would be like a ghost town.

- www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/elon-musk-wor...-month-11549741.html
- www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-outage-prompts-response-from-elon-musk/

This shouldn't surprise anyone, I really wish when he decided not to buy twitter, the owners sued him and forced him to buy basically. Obviously they had legal basis for it and managed to do it, and Elon of course acted as if that's what he wanted all along but we all know he was ordered to either buy it, or pay a hefty sum (something along 10 billion lines) so it made more sense to buy it for 40 billion then give up and have nothing for 10 billion. But because he was forced, now we are seeing why that was a bad decision, sure twitter old owners and shareholders probably made some big bank thanks to that, but the whole world is suffering because of that decision at the same time.

I don't think Twitter would fall. Elon may have made a decision backed by many to fire some former Twitter employees, but it would take like between 5years to 7 years to determine if his new company, Twitter would stand the test of the seasons, before considered as a failure.

Although, Mark of Meta has launched a competition network in the name of Threads, just to wake Elon from his slumber of just owning a company, it is yet to be seen what Elon has as reply to this and what new incentives he is incurring to see that Twitter isn't a failure in all entirety.

Personally I have always despised twitter.  Mainly I disliked it because anytime I got on, I felt like it was just complete disarray. It's very poorly set up.  It's hard to find things, and I just can't stand the layout. 

But now that Elon has taken over, it's even worse.  He's constantly tweeting absolutely idiotic childish moronic shit.

I mean it's hilarious that people still think of him as some sort of real life Tony Stark.  Please, he's not invented a single thing in his life.  A few days ago on Twitter he tweeted " Zuck is a cuck ".  The man is a child, and I wished he just go away. I'm currently trying to delete my twitter but can't figure out the email I used. Grrrr

There is a large amount of possible speculation around this fact, Elon has a rather eccentric personality, and while it may be true that he has a large number of unquestionable abilities, there are certain aspects that despite his talent he does not give the best of. of the coverage, the management of most of the dependencies under his responsibility, is far from the dynamic that is naturalized in twitter and unfortunately this has managed to be noticed in the results that he has obtained with it, and although several people say or intuit that there may be a purpose behind this, I personally doubt it and it is even among so many factors, he is still a human being and is susceptible to making mistakes or not making the best decisions on certain occasions.

Twitter was a popular social media for celebrities. But Instagram was a rival of Twitter but now Mark Zuckerberg has brought Threads as an alternative to Twitter.  Twitter is now under a lot of pressure. If Elon Musk wants to develop Twitter, he needs to adopt more new strategies to move Twitter forward.  But maybe it is possible with Elon Musk.  But since Mark Zuckerberg has been running Facebook since the beginning of his business.  So I think Mark Zuckerberg has more knowledge about social media management than Elon Musk so it will be hard for Elon Musk to compete with Mark Zuckerberg.

As long as Twitter doesn't make policies that incriminate its users I don't think it will make it fall,
regardless with Threads I'm happy because it will give competition which is a good thing,
so far Twitter seems to have a monopoly and without competition so we'll see what it will be like in the future.

It is true that a lot his choices were disapproved by many especially of course the users of the said platform however a lot of people still prefer twitter over other social media platforms. Maybe it caused a little of distrust but I don’t think twitter is gonna fall off that easily even with Threads launching. Twitter is much more user-friendly even with elon’s changes compared to Threads (not to mention its bad algorithm).

To many people, his actions or tweets are silly, childish, but for him, he has achieved the purpose of getting people's attention. Not only you, but there are a lot of people who hate Elon but also a lot of people who are crazy fans of him, so he will keep doing those silly things as long as he achieves his goal.

We cannot please everyone, many will hate us, and many will like us. Would you care about those who hate you or those who love you? Moreover, the acquisition of Twitter is not just a mere hobby of Elon, but I believe everything is related to politics, bigger things that we never know, IMO.

Yeah. Twitter isn't going anywhere op even though Musk messed it up in recent times. It might not be as popular as before, but it's still quite popular. I visit it regularly for various reasons and I never faced any issues with its performance, interface etc.

Personally, I don't like Musk at all since he is a pathetic weasel and he made Twitter worse in some ways for everyone. He received proper karma for his deeds thanks to his wealth falling rapidly recently.

Am curious to see how Threads will fare against Twitter in the future.

Elon musk plays crucial role to developed most significant contributions like space exploration, renewable energy, electric vehicles, and tunneling technology. But with passing years he has been in various complications since purchasing the popular social media Twitter. Twitter has undergone numerous changes under Musk, he tried to reduce company's thousand of employees and costs and reduction was part of Musk's strategy to cut costs and steer the company towards profitability.

The censorship with Twitter before was at the utmost level and Elon was aware of that and during his acquisition, that's one that he has reduced. Not entirely eliminated because it's still happening. I may dislike him for his attitude and trolling for so many things including the crypto market but I'll give him that count. But if it's about his management of this company, he's not top-notch on it compared to the other companies that he owns. He's still got a lot of things to work on this one until he goes ROI and if he sees Twitter like a sinking ship, I think that he's got contingency plans.

Twitter starts to issue out payments to verified creators in ad revenue sharing model: https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-offer-ad-revenue-share-select-content-creators-2023-07-13/

This is a big mistake IMO. Creates incentive by content creators to heighten interactions. Every verified content creator essentially becomes a paid actor/Twitter shill and decreases the quality of speech because the income correlates directly to the amount of impressions/engagement. Looking at the payments, looks like creators got some tens of thousands of dollars for their tweets. I've seen paid propaganda accounts that spread political disinformation get upwards of 25k for their garbage posting.

Note this is different than pay-to-promote tweets. I don't have an issue with that. An ad sharing model on social media decreases quality across the board as every tweet essentially becomes an ad.

For Twitter, Elon Musk does have a backup strategy. Before purchasing it, he had his strategy all in place. He established the adjustments and policies in order to monetize Twitter and use it for personal financial gain.

Of recent, Elon Musk shared $5 million to creators on Twitter. The $5 million to be shared is gotten from Ad revenues from replies.

This is the first time it has occurred in the history of social media platforms. No social media network has ever carried out such an action.

Link for the info:   https://dataconomy.com/2023/07/14/twitter-ad-revenue-sharing-how-to/

It's not yet known to the masses and if this is like a revenue-sharing model fro content creators then it has to be known by the other content creators from other social networks. With this, the other social networks are going to be more competitive and will only make the competition better so that we'll be having more quality content creators staying on these platforms. This is a sustainable business model for him and it will attract more advertisers and traffic.

Twitter is on fire as soon as 'Elon musk' officially took control of twitter at the same time, first of all from the office of twitter the CEO of twitter that is Parag Agarwal of India was shown the way out. The biggest reason for which was that Parag Aggarwal told Elon musk on the deal between twitter that the future of twitter is now in danger but he hardy new that, in reality his future was in danger in twitter. After this, the CFO of twitter Ned Segal was also fired from the job. Even twitter's chief advisor Vijaya Gadde, who banned Trump's account from twitter was also dismissed by Elon musk.

honestly, I didn’t notice big changes with the arrival of Elon Musk to manage Twitter, I read it more than I post, maybe that’s why I don’t notice changes, content of a different nature is still present on the platform than I like it and I like that there are no strong restrictions. Now I'm watching the Threads and I don't see much interest from users to go there because there is more censorship and there is no such freedom of speech as on Twitter, according to my observations.

Basically, both applications have their own advantages and disadvantages,
initially since the launch of Threads a lot of people started switching but now back to Twitter again,
hope that with Threads it will create competition and we'll see how far it lasts.

Well... if you never liked Twitter, then it doesn't matter what you think about it. I guess Elon would be more worried about the existing users. I can understand the current hype being made around the pullout by certain advertisers. These guys are mad that Elon put an end to censorship by the far-left and then implemented freedom of speech. As Elon mentioned, $44 billion that was spent on Twitter was necessary to restore freedom of speech in one of the most popular social media platforms. Advertisers will return in future, or else they will be replaced with others.

One thing to note is that Elon himself posted awhile ago (Around the time of purchasing twitter or before that a little bit) mockering and laughing at Youtube system saying that these guys allow scam ads, which I totally agree with him. I was shocked when I saw that while watching youtube a scam ad appears to me where they want to steal my crypto, either by showing a interview with a known man but underneath is a scam link. I thought Elon was a hero for pointing that out.

But then he bought twitter and made the blue-checkmark attainable by anyone who pays money, isnt that the same thing? In the past it used to be given to real people who owns their legit names, but now anyone can get a blue-checkmark if they pay which means a scammer can get a blue checkmark and pretend to be a real-person of some sort to scam people. And trust me people fall for it by thinking "Oh that is legit he got the blue-check mark" because they may or may not know that it is purchasable for money, they may still think it is the same way it was in the early stages of twitter.

So in a sense Elon promotes scammers by this move the exact same way YouTube promote scams in their platform by allowing them to put ads.

It is true that Elon Musk's biggest mistake is ignoring the loud sentiments of millions of twitter users ever since he bought the social media platform. The changes he applied had drastically changed the overall user experience of the well-known social media platform. However, it should be noted that Elon Musk is a businessman and that means he knows that his actions, although receiving much negative feedback, will still find a way to bring profit on his side. For example, it is a well-known fact that much of twitter users sees the profile verification tag as an important symbol in the platform, with this in mind Musk used the opportunity to establish the now known Twitter Blue where users can pay for a premium experience in using the site. And as obnoxious as it is, many twitter users (especially those who have been using it for a long time either for their personal experience or career) have paid to have the listed benefits upon subscribing to this premium subscription.

Yes, twitter have seen better days, but Elon Musk is a businessman and as much as the platform is big and is heavily reliant on its users experience and feedbacks, Musk will find a way around it to earn more in the long run.

US Senator Elizabeth Warren now is going after Elon Musk. It is for the relationship with Twitter and his company Tesla.

She is telling sec to look for a conflict of interest with these 2 companies he owns. https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Letter%20to%20SEC%20asking%20for%20investigation%20into%20Tesla%20-%20FINAL1.pdf

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elizabeth-warren-urges-sec-investigate-tesla-twitter-ties-corporate-go-rcna94740

Twitter being Twitter can't be like anything else. other social media may come with new features.  But can't exactly meet Twitter's needs. Twitter's market cap has fallen as many have pulled their investments out of Twitter.  And in the stock market it is normal that the stock price will go up and down and that is why people can profit.  It can rise again at any time. So there is nothing to panic about it. It is best to be patient here

Moreover, we are in the midst of an economic crisis, and not only has Twitter lost revenue, but many other businesses are not doing much better. But many people take advantage of that and think that Twitter's apocalypse is approaching, and they blame Elon's way of operating. As you said, I find it normal for stocks to fall or businesses to suffer for a while. In business or investing, things are not always smooth and profitable without problems.

The thing that surprised many people at the end of last year was the issue of elon musk buying twitter, at first i doubted whether elon musk would be serious about this plan, and now all speculation is over because elon musk officially becomes the owner of twitter, and the big thing that elon musk has done is changed a lot of employees so it created a bit of a shake up which has a lot of users worried about twitter.

Elon is smart and he always surprises everyone. But he is still a human being who definitely has many flaws. Even after he got hold of Twitter, as we can see, only a lot of negative news emerged criticizing the steps taken by Elon. Maybe Elon is not suitable for businesses in the field of social media platforms. He fits better in his current field of technology and artificial intelligence and such. And Elon has realized that he is not cut out to be CEO of Twitter. And Elon made the right move by appointing Linda Yaccarino who will replace him as the new CEO of Twitter.

This is the key idea in the whole topic; It is Elon Musk's first experience in running a business with stronger competitors than him in the market, in addition to the fact that Twitter is a company that loses more than it gains, which explains all the decisions that it took in an attempt to increase the platform's revenues. Elon Musk is accustomed to creativity in modern fields where the field of error is open and he can get support even if one of the schemes does not succeed. In the field of "social media", there are rules that control the market in the presence of competitors whose products must be taken into consideration before taking any decision. The appointment of another CEO of the company proves the failure of Elon Musk in managing it.

Even billionaires arent perfect when it comes to decisions that they had made out and come to think that Elon isnt really that in social media thing on which its not his expertise on the first place, he might be able to buy the company but doesnt mean that he would really be knowledgeable on trying out to run this business on which unlike into those owners who do have the good knowledge on running on this business would really be always be having the advantage on which it isnt something shocking if we do speak about on having comparison. Elon is aware about those trial and errors and guaranteed that he is really that already getting used to it.
If he do make out some decisions towards on what are those changes but turns out to be a failure then he would just simply skip it and try another one and if not then he would be deciding
on hiring other CEO for it to be handled as simple as that. Yes, he could get some criticisms but its not really something that would really be a big issue.

A lot of people still believe that Elon paid a lot more than what he should have. But then, Elon later commented on this topic and claimed that the price was fair and it was done to restore free speech. People like me are thankful to Elon, after he kicked out far-left loonies like Vijaya Gadde and Parag Agrawal, who wanted to censor anything even remotely related to the right-wing. Profit was not his primary concern. But given the talent that Elon possess, I am sure that he will make Twitter one of the most profitable social media platforms.

I think its far worse than what we worried now. Twitter is definitely not as profitable as Instagram or Facebook because its marketing targeting is not very good. Its ads are inefficient. Twitter userbase is very different than average Instagram userbase so they don't spend a lot anyways. I think Elon must understand he can't compensate losses only through twitter blue. He needs to convince advertisors to generate more money.

Isnt Twitter in general has less options than Instagram and Facebook to be able to compete with them in profitability ? I think Elon isnt using Twitter only to get profit from subscriptions and ads. Perhaps for a decent amount of money, they can adjust users feed so, that users will only get specific information aka he uses twitter for manipulation. I was wondering if after Marks Zuckerbergs Threads fail did Twitter received some benefits. Maybe Twitter shares gained in price?

The amount of the deal was huge, which forced him to sell part of his shares in one of his other companies and sell almost all of his bitcoins, in addition to borrowing a large part of the amount from several banks with high interest rates. This raises the risk level and is supposed to reduce the scope of error, especially since his other companies do not generate enough profits to cover the expenses of the platform, and he is forced to pay the first installment of the loan interest to the banks on a specific date.
What happened was that he started taking decisions on his own instead of appointing an experienced executive director in the field and able to contain the platform crisis and change it from a losing platform to a profitable project.

Wait did it really fail? I found that I was using threads more than Twitter nowadays, granted the content from Threads is a little stale cause most of it felt like 2012 Facebook and Twitter lol but it's far from dead. Moreover, Twitter was monetized way back then right? Before Elon stepped in there were avenues for Content Creators and the Company itself to make profit from, cause if they were always running on a net negative there's no way they'd be able to pay their employees, which are by the way more than what Twitter has now. In my opinion Twitter with the oncoming of NFTs and all that is more profitable compared to Facebook and Instagram cause you'd always see projects left and right having twitter handles and announcement accounts, but you'd seldom see projects go out of their way to sponsor ads on Instagram and Twitter.

I think thread is still too early to be judged as some failure, meanwhile even if it does fail I guess it will not have any benefits for twitter other than maybe recovering back its stock price which has been plummeting ever since.
I think honestly with the current circumstance of twitter which is total mess I don't think elon could think that far ahead. well I don't know, they guy is certainly smarter than most of us, but its just baffling seeing his business decision which seemed like he want to make ROI as fast as possible through any means.
maybe he just want to get back the money that he lost that got spend for the platform.

We can see that Twitter has really to do it.

Look at what Facebook did recently, despite being profitable with a lot of ads going in and out onto the platform. They've just launched the blue tick and meta verified for each profile.

There's a monthly pay on it just like what Twitter is asking for its blue tick from its users. So, with that move from meta, they really are trying to extract every possible source of revenue for them.

What about this graph?


For me, it seems that people at first only tried Threads but later went back to place they used to. I believe that people will still have Twitter as their primary platform, but use Threads only as secondary and to get cross platform users feeds (in short they will have Threads just for SMM usage).


Same as to early to claim that after Elon got Twitter, Twitter started to fall. How long has he been in charge there? Half a year? In a company that has 16 years history. But with Threads, Zuckerberg just made a copy of already existed social media. Nothing new. If Elon would have created his own Facebook, it would have failed also.

Well Elon Musk has again tweeted about new name for Twitter, called X. He did say it is part to make his Super App and he did talk about this before.

He is just waiting for a good enough X logo. And then he will change it from the bird to the X logo.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/shall-bid-adieu-to-twitter-brand-soon-elon-musks-cryptic-tweet-4233287

Exciting times ahead! The "everything" app is on its way!

So, Elon Musk has this plan to rebrand Twitter. And, because of this Twitter is now going to be called 'X'

Elon's big vision is to turn 'X' into the ultimate everything app, similar to the popular Chinese app WeChat, which does pretty much everything!

Yes you are right about this. And Elon Musk did say the new X will change the way you do business financially.

He said we will be able to 'conduct your entire financial world on the platform'. This is very exciting thing to hear from him.

https://www.businesstoday.in/technology/news/story/twitter-name-made-sense-when-it-was-140-character-messages-elon-musk-says-x-is-not-just-a-name-change-391101-2023-07-25

Well that vision looks far far away from becoming true, because currently the only thing you can do with "X" is tweet with it (and trading features are nowhere in sight). It's not like he's magically going to find developers and program managers to design mini-apps to compete in other fields when Twitter is still cash negative and can't even sustain its own service.

There were a ton of features that needed to be developed, but again, as Elon said before, it saved them plenty of time buying Twitter because that is his plan, and for sure the next will be the payment systems that he highlights. Let's see if this app will be successful. Even the road ahead is still far, it still gets me feeling excited about this, but I don't keep my emotions high as we don't know if this will fail or just be hype. Let's see what happens along the way.

Elon Musk does not have a goal of becoming a successful CEO of Twitter, he will always find someone to do this job for him. The reason why he has taken this case is precisely because he plans to get out of the technological field, with which everyone used to associate him, and declare his political ambitions. And for this, he needs a platform to promote his views and ideas, and to influence the audience, which will later become voters. He wants it to be his voters.

I don't know if he will one day join the American political race. But the Twitter acquisition is more about politics than his business goals, so it's not entirely true that many people criticize him for killing the popular social network. But I don't agree with you in thinking that he wants to get out of the  technological field because most of the companies he owns are mostly tech companies, and his latest is tech companies too. In my opinion, his ambition is much bigger than what he is achieving, so it seems a bit absurd to say that he bought TW just because he wants to be a politician.

What I meant when I said about him getting out the technological field is that he clearly doesn't want to be tightly assosiated only with it. He has to declare himself as someone more than just a developer, even such a successful one. He needs to create another image of himself and social media he owns will definitely help him to achieve that goal. I don't say he bought twitter only because of that reason, but it was one of the main of his goals, in my opinion.

Well there is rumors that are going around. They are saying that Twitter was going to launch its own crypto token.
And I did not think this was going to make it worth it for him. Elon Musk is a big supporter of crypto like Doge. So it would not help him to have a crypto token for Twitter.
https://www.theblock.co/post/243375/elon-musk-x-crypto-token-never

Elon Musk is a very smart man so we can't easily call him stupid. Whatever work Elon Musk does, he must have a specific plan behind it. Then in every business he loses at first but later he succeeds in that business and earns a lot of money. In the beginning when Elon Musk first bought Twitter, many called his Twitter purchase a failed investment, but as time has changed, he has been proven right all the time. At the moment, the amount of investment in Twitter has increased a lot. Twitter is seeing some changes after a small update recently. In the future, he may add several new features to this social media platform, which will increase its popularity and he will become a successful investor from Twitter investment.

Elon Musk had gave some details about his 'cage fight' with Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg. He says it will be streamed on X. And all proceeds will go to charity for veterans.

https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-mark-zuckerberg-cage-fight-28598abc5be6959f01c1b0079211a360

LOL.. so we are still discussing about the fall of Twitter? From what I can see, the advertisement revenues with Twitter are showing signs of increase. And the competitor launched by Zuckerberg is now dead even before getting a good start. The monopoly of Twitter in micro-blogging domain remains intact and as long as it remains so Elon doesn't have much to worry. And compared to other social media platforms like Facebook, market cap of Twitter remains absurdly low, and that means that there is still a lot of room for growth.

Today X has paid many people. X has now become a place where you can get paid like twitch. This seems like just the beginning. The application is very open to development. Elon can add many different things to the X application. Elon has such an opportunity.

I think it's too early to talk about the value of implementation X yet. Because many innovations will come to the application and there is no other application that can compete with this application.

A lot of people dont realize how big business work. From their point of view, when you start or buy business, you are obligatory to get profit the next day after purchase. People dont know that there are lots of companies that work with losses for years and decades, and feel fine. People dont know that even if company ends financial years with a loss, that company might have millions and billion in turnover, have lots of supply funds frozen in fixed assets and debtors. Until Twitter announced themselves to be bankrupt, Twitter hasnt failed.

Twitter hasn't and wouldn't in the next few years fail as a business. But as a social media platform? It is slowly losing its magic on people. Long gone were the days were Twitter used to be the main platform for teens, fandoms and other online communities. However, this does not mean Twitter will go down already, perhaps this is why Elon Musk is rebranding the platform.

From platform "for teens, fandoms and other online communities" it has turned into platform for business. Now it is a must for business to have a twitter account as one of the social media platforms for marketing. Not to mention those who use twitter directly as a trading place for their business. And how through twitter people make announcements and statements. Many times we have seen in news or media link to "one famous person twitter this and that" and discuss resonance that tweet made.

Sometimes we don't need to hear other people opinion. I think Elon musk did a good job for twitter. even he already rebranding it. there is something that called product life cycle, if he rebranding it then it may safe twitter that we called X now. he is smart I think there is nothing to worry about what he is doing.

I'm not so sure about this. Yes, we cannot obviously tell Elon Musk what he should and shouldn't do, but it should be remembered that Twitter (now referred to as X) is a social media platform. Hence, its heart and core are its users which means user's opinions and feedbacks matter. Right now, the general users of the platform are either pleased or not happy with the rebrand Elon did. We'll see after a few months what the changes the rebrand brought will do to the platform.

Well Elon Musk is not going to cooperate with no one he doesnt want to. Even when a special council got a search warrant for records of Donald Trumps twitter account, Elon Musk would instead choose to pay a $350,000 fine.

https://apnews.com/article/twitter-trump-account-capitol-riot-jack-smith-9e66943fd7ebdae0038838c144b57d4f

You are giving too much regard to Elon Musk regarding this issue, as of the time that this thread was open, Elon Musk was retarding Twitter and perhaps regretting his takeover, in other words, he failed as the CEO and everything was just regressing. This prompted him to task people to vote and people actually voted him out as CEO, that's inside Twitter itself. Meaning that more people didn't want him and his ill ways of managing the microblogging app.

Things started getting better when Linda Yaccarino became the CEO, and with her track record, I don't think anyone should doubt her. It's a recent development that is worthy of appraisal, and thanks to Linda Yaccarino, not Elon Musk. But I agree with you, there are now new developments which I better call the evolution of new ideas. Still, you should know that it's now more than the original Twitter, it's something else.

Personally, I find it interesting to see how this develops. I think Elon Musk is always looking for ways to expand his influence and reach, and Twitter would certainly give him a platform to do so. Though I still wonder how he would handle the responsibility of owning such a vast social media network.

Yes, listening to feedback is one reason why users continuously support and patronize a platform. Improving services to meet their users' needs will reflect better satisfaction and loyalty because it shows that they value their users and are committed to providing the best possible experience. When users encounter issues that are not resolved over time, they will likely leave and look for another substitutional platform for Twitter, or it may even be possible that a competitor may even rise to offer a better platform experience.

I really like the new design and layout of X now. It feels more modern and user-friendly. However, I've noticed that some of the features I used frequently have been moved around or deleted, and I've noticed that Twitter has been experiencing some issues lately. I have trouble accessing the site and posting tweets. I'm sure Elon and his team at Twitter are working hard to resolve the issue. Let's just look forward and see how Elon will handle this.

There must have been a reason behind Elon Musk buying Twitter for such a huge sum of money. He would not have bought such a social media at such a high price for no reason. At the moment, Elon Musk is thinking of several income streams with Twitter. The amount of money Elon Musk has invested in Twitter will see him earning millions of dollars from the Twitter platform after a few years. After the change of ownership of Twitter, when Elon Musk introduced certain rules on Twitter, Mark Zuckerberg launched another copy of Twitter in the app market. Mark Zuckerberg's app created a lot of buzz in the beginning for bringing another exact copy of Twitter to the app market but later this app did not offer the same or better features than Twitter due to which people came back to Twitter again. After all, Elon Musk bought Twitter and never failed his investment.

Elon Musk want controlling full with all people around the world after success acquisition of twitter, its not matter with how much money spent for buying twitter but his goals complicated because he manage well all hater for suspending their account if against Elon Musk. New twitter logo "X" have been existing in several weeks and looks Elon Musk want to rebranding with his social media based on the same with his company.
But excited with Elon Musk competition as Facebook's owner Mark Zuckerberg, he has launch new social platform have similar with twitter although not really popular right now after several days opening operation. Less drop or ads advertisement values after Elon Musk acquisition and I think need time for twitter more popular under Elon Musk owner.

But there is a crucial detail that you are missing here: Elon Musk failed when he is broke. For as long as he isn't broke, I would not bet against him. It doesn't matter what I think about Elon Musk's character, but he pulled off things that are literally inhuman. When someone has wealth of $50 billion and buys Twitter for $44 billion and it plummets to 50% of its acquisition value, I agree that it could end in a failure because the owner might decide to quit. But Musk already said that his plans go far beyond a platform on which you can send some tweets. I believe him.

There are a few things that will keep him going and one of those things is the competition with Zuckerberg. If Musk was rich enough to swallow meta one day, he would do it. he is the fiercest business competitor out there. Amassing more wealth than Bezos who has built a money printing machine is insane. Building a car company, and I agree with Musk here, is probably the hardest thing an entrepreneur can choose to do. It doesn't scale. Social networks scale and retail scales through cross-selling potential and market power due to superior market share.

But when you want Tesla to scale, it is so much harder to do. But he might be able to get there when one day he is cross-supplying his companies with knowledge transfer and required resources.

In terms of market value you could call it the fall of twitter for now. But I think you will have to open another thread that is called the rise of X one day. I believe he won't stop with whatever he has in mind for the company. Money is not an issue for them. He could burn half of his wealth and would still have more than Zuckerberg. 

Elon Musk does what he does with his own thoughts and doesn't need anyone's opinion. Since Elon Musk might have already taken the step of turning Twitter into X, this must be a good idea. Elon Musk would probably think of developing something better because his intentions are positive things that can be improved upon. It is true that an intelligent and smart person always does what he does in his own wisdom and does not act on the opinion of others.

He may have taken this step after thinking X will benefit us in ways we've only just begun to imagine. X is going to play a major role in the future of unlimited communication in many other areas including audio, video, messaging, payments or banking. Advising social media to follow stricter content moderation policies. However musk wants to maintain a more flexible attitude in this regard relaxing a critical platform like twitter will change the experience for all users elon musk may have already put this plan into action.

Others may disagree, but I believe that Twitter is moving in the right direction ever since Elon took over. When Jack Dorsey and clowns such as Vijaya Gadde were in power, Twitter never cared about the users. They deleted user accounts which used to post anything remotely related to right-wing and never cared about the ordinary users. Elon restored the FoE in Twitter and on top of that he came up with the revenue sharing formula for the content creators. And this in turn will encourage the users to produce more quality content.

Nice accolade for Elon Musk, I can clearly see that you are a big fan, I'm not, and there is no apology for that. And as much as I respect your opinion in this regard and agree with some of your points, never you qualify anyone above human, he is a human being and there is no achievement he has now that more hasn't had before him. If luck and grace shine on people, they and their fans believe there is no one like them, which is awkward.

As for turning Twitter around through diversification, it's the easiest thing anyone can do when there is money and I never doubted him but he actually disappointed me because he couldn't do it as CEO. We are talking about billions in his control, so what? If a low-budget business could find itself atop, how much more is a billion-dollar company?

Aside from that, all his so-called achievements can't be attributed to him alone as many of you widely conceived, it's deeper than the surface, they often use the unheard brains if you don't know but often claim the glory. I dared him while he was the CEO of Twitter, why did he relinquish the post to Linda Yaccarino? Every success from that microblogging app as far as I'm concerned is to her as from then and the resources at her disposal. Twitter is a big name already, so anything they do under that name can never find it hard to sell. Just like how banks are now becoming holdings and co, they are already established, so it's not new. He made a lot of mistakes as Twitter CEO which cost him and the company a lot, so don't pretend as if that never happened or he's perfect.

Well maybe there is not a fall of twitter anymore. Because before Elon Musk bought it it was going to look like it was going to become bankrupt.
But now the CEO Linda Yaccarino is saying it is almost to point of breaking even. She says a reason is that they reduced the staff from 8000 to only now 1500 people.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/10/ceo-says-x-formerly-twitter-is-close-to-break-even/

When someone buys a platform, he will surely bring changes to the platform and some people may not like the change and they will be of the point of view that the platform will fail. But with the passage of time, if there is no loss of traffic and activity at platform, it means that the platform will not fail.

Some people may not like the name change etc but believe me no one is leaving twitter.


I don't think Twitter which is now X would ever fail. There are a lot of people using X and they will continue using it no matter if there are changes in terms or addition of new features.
In order for Twitter (X) to fail, there needs to be a better platform than X, which does not exist currently.

I'm not a fan of Elon Musk nor hate him, but this man sure has plan and vision for the betterment of twitter and now the 'X'. Surely, he will not waste and pay so much money just to destroy the brand of the platform. This man has brilliant mind and I know for sure that the rebranding of twitter is for good and will certainly shock the world.


Agree on this! good or bad people will always have opinion about you and what you're doing, and the more you're succeeding and flourishing the more people will hate you. And that is why Elon has a lot of haters, because he is a successful man. It's a good thing that he's still doing what needs to be done even though a lot of people doubt him.

But aren't you being superficial here? I believe you can do better than that. I am not a Musk fan. I don't own a Tesla and I use Twitter/X once in three years. I won't ride a rocket to the moon and I didn't buy one of his flame throwers. I never praised his character either.

But one day I might have to use Starlink for my Internet, drive a Tesla because it is the best and the cheapest, buy a house from Solar City, use his underground tunnels to get from A to B, benefit from Neuralik, use X (former Twitter) for a dozen of things instead of just tweeting, and probably a variety of other applications he will try to build.

Do I think he is doing that alone? Do I think he deserves all the credit? Did Steve Jobs build the iPhone alone in his basement?

Even if Musk didn't turn a single screw driver in his entire life and just did everything with phone calls, finding and convincing the right people to do it for him, I would still say that I would have never been able in ten lives to pull off the same.

Him not being the CEO of Twitter, that has so many reasons, but one of them is probably that when you are the CEO or practically CEO of an empire like he has, does it really matter whether he officially keeps the title to his name? To me this was strategic. He is still the boss. But he noticed image problems and rather wants someone else to be blamed for harsh decisions being taken at X. Many reasons behind that, but certainly not because the guy would give up.

If he inherited his money, I would kind of understand your point. But people crying that everything is so easy as a billionaire when the billionaire is a self-made billionaire, that doesn't make sense to me, sorry.

By the way, tell me about a single CEO who wasn't ruthless at many points in their career. Musk is making shit decisions, like building the factory in Germany when close to that place there are problems with water already and he laughs about it in public, asked about the water issues. I didn't like that and thought he should show more sympathy/empathy. But seriously, I am aware of the world I live in. If he doesn't build the factory with all the money he has, someone else will build the factory.

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Concerning your last sentence, could you specify where I said that he is perfect? But please provide with context. Thank you.

It is certain that as a big businessman, he will not do anything that will be detrimental; he will try in every way that is sometimes difficult to predict to be able to give a surprise. Likewise with Twitter, so that he can contribute to his business just like he manages other companies such as Tesla.It's been seen now that before changing to X, Elon made many changes from unpaid to paid to provide additional income. and this will continue to be done for X to continue to innovate because Elon knows that X has many fans and is very profitable if managed properly, so he has no doubts about taking over Twitter even with a loan and cooperation.

thats surprising news to be honest, many are saying that elon just quite literally become the cause of the twitter impending doom but it turned out to be a big misconception.
elon is currently playing 4d chess here. but i guess the fact that twitter is close to break even is because the fact that they are making the blue tick badge and gold ones a subscription that generates them consistent money
monthly for long term, they aren't dependent on those advertisers no more, which probably might their overall condition of the company economy improving.
the fact that even instagram which is owned by meta is doing the same thing, speaks a lot about how well this strategy went.

After Elon Musk's recent decision to change the company's name to the symbol X, which his other companies are famous for, and after bypassing the platform by paying more than a third of a billion dollars as a result of its refusal to provide the US judiciary with evidence of Trump's account activity due to the state security cases brought against him, it is clear that Elon Musk does not aim to save Twitter from its financial crisis and generate revenue. Apparently, he will only be using the platform to promote himself and his projects. This will certainly affect the extent of the turnout on the platform and the level of freedom of expression in it.

I think he did not spend a lot of money only for destroying something that he bought. Until now, I only see that twitter that we called X is become something that become trendy again. Buying Twitter is good decision because it has so many users and controlling this platform can give benefits to the owners. If I have something like twitter then I will maximize it for free advertisement for me, so my product will easily sold out.

Of course, Elon Musk is a businessman so I'm sure he did not just buy Twitter (now referred to as X) to waste money. I'm sure he has plans to maximize the platform he bought. However, X's popularity is low now compared to the then status of Twitter wherein a lot of users are active and maximizing the platform's features. As for advertisement, a lot of merchants prefer using Instagram for it, specifically the story feature of the platform wherein they can easily and effectively advertise through pictures and videos, you will see that most brands are more active there. I think Elon Musk is trying to rebrand Twitter, as X feels more chic and sophisticated compared to the old look of the social media platform.

They are using it as a part of the Everything app, and Musk is planning to have an Everything app like WeChat. Musk is wanting an app that the people will use for basically everything, like paying from it, booking a taxi, finding foods, social media, and everything else you can think of. This is really one of the reasons why he bought Twitter, and on top of that, he is making profits from purchases on it. But right now, I do see more reasons that he is really integrating this into his app, and let's see what the outcome of it is.

Changing the name of Elon Musk's Twitter to X was not logical at all.  A lot of users have dropped from Twitter due to Elon Musk's activities and Mark Zuckerberg is taking advantage of this opportunity.  Thread is becoming very popular and its popularity is spreading very fast.  Elon Musk's actions have given Mark Zuckerberg many opportunities to position Thread in a good position. Facebook's popularity was already much higher than Twitter's, which is why Twitter could not compete with Thread and grow.  Among them, Twitter's sudden name change further dropped Twitter's popularity. Elon Musk may have won over his emotions by changing the name of Twitter.  But it is a big loss for him in terms of business.  But only he knows why he did such a thing.  So we can't comment negatively on it without knowing its strategy.  But since Elon Musk is a shrewd businessman, I hope he didn't make any bad moves

You are completely wrong about Threads.

Threads app usage plummets despite initial promise as refuge from Twitter. Social media app, launched in the wake of Twitter chaos, recorded 576,000 active users in August, down 79% from 2.3 million in July. (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/aug/14/threads-app-slump-daily-active-users-twitter-competition)

From the side, it looks like Threads have failed to move Twitter in social media space. Right now, users mostly download Threads to see what is has, find out that they are same as Twitter, and move back to where they are more used to. Thread awaits same fate Google+ had, it will die due to lack of activity and users interest in it.

I dont think that changing of Twitter to X somehow had a huge effect. People still call it Twitter. People still click on the same place on their mobile screen, tablet or desktop to open an app, no matter how it is called. People still click buttons, located on same places to do things they are used to (I am speaking about making a tweet, like, retweet or reply.

By the way, I am the only one who thinks that rebranding Twitter as X is a bad idea?
This social media has been known as Twitter since it's conception and its name had become well known among both users and outsiders of it. And now suddenly it changed to X.

To me does not make much sense to move from a brand and name which was already very popular and easily recognizable to everyone to a new one.

It would be something similar if Pepsi or Coca Cola decided to rebrand themselves as "W" or "Y". Is this something you would do as a CEO ? Be honest.
Of course I would not, to me keeping the image and logo of the company is more intelligent.

It doesn't make much sense because we aren't the owner, maybe it makes sense to Elon Musk himself? If not, why would he change the name? Maybe he has other plans and maybe these plans will have everything that will back up the reason why he changes the name to X?

There is no reason to rush for answers but I believe it's coming, Elon Musk is more smarter than just rebranding Twitter, I believe this platform will probably turn into a marketplace for crypto in the future, I mean the first social platform where good numbers of crypto can be accepted among the users.

I won't dare underestimate a man who builds Tesla, he is not for jokes, something good is coming and rebranding Twitter to X is not going to be the last thing he will do.

For sure Elon has something on his mind, it's like some other brand upgrading their signature name into something new that people would tend to acknowledge in the meantime. We all have been attached with the "Twitter" since it's been running for a long time, we also have seen some crypto related like doge logo posted in the twitter since Elon is advertising it. It might be changing of design becoming into modern style? Because Elon Musk it's not just a simple CEO that are relying on Twitter. He's actually a billionaire so he could actually whatever he likes on Twitter and the fact that he bought it. If you also research about Elon, you could see that his first company based on my research is called "SpaceX". So I think that is his inspiration for naming Twitter as X.

That was my first impression as well. But then, Elon is the richest person in the world and he might have done this after thinking about the consequences. Despite being one of the most popular social media platforms, the revenue generation potential of Twitter is still underutilized. It generates only a fraction of the revenue that other platforms such as Facebook generate. So Elon might be hoping to start afresh, with a new brand name. He probably wants to leave the old baggage behind and move on. And some of the new ideas such as revenue distribution towards content generators sounds exciting for me.

Well, Twitter will still survive under Elon's ownership. Several months ago, Twitter was predicted to be outdone by its new competitor, namely a new social media platform designed similar to Twitter, namely Threads. But as we see today Twitter remains unbeaten. And I think Twitter users are still loyal to Twitter to this day. And Threads only gained popularity at the start of its release and now the hype is starting to drop.

Elon has good plans for Twitter, namely to become a social media platform that will potentially become a bridge in cross-border payments.

I see nothing bad in such rebranding. They have changed only the name of the wrapping, but the taste of candy stayed the same. It was amatter of time when we will see X. X stands for synenergy, compilation of products. Elon told that he is planning to turn twitter into something more than just instrument to share ideas. I trully believe that it is early to evaluate Elon, Twitter and what he did or will do with it. We will see the effect of this deal in years only.

I agree. Twitter was getting too old and boring for users anyway so rebranding was a good idea. It sure gathered a lot of attention when the rebranding was presented and launched. I'm sure Elon Musk still has a lot of changes to apply as Twitter turns to X and those changes will come as time passes, hence the full effects of the rebranding will only be felt after a few months or years. However, seeing as X is still being used by many and is gathering more attention due to the rebrand changes then I wouldn't say that Twitter or X will fall anytime soon.

Twitter definitely works well if we keep in mind that staff went from 8K to 1500 people but this makes me think, what was the working culture in Twitter? How hard worker were their employees? What's the working culture in America? As far as I know, people work very hard in the USA and work 10-12 hours a day, usually. Do people in tech just drink coffee, read books and write a couple of lines on their computer?

His plans regarding to Twitter are very strange. Why did he change logo? What was the point? Twitter is not a twitter anymore! He said that his aim is freedom of speech and it's okay for him to lose all the money that he paid in Twitter if that's the price of freedom of speech. By the way, mistakes aren't expected for Elon Musk, that makes it impossible to predict whether it will be a good long-term decision what he does or not.

For me, Elon Musk changing the bird logo of Twitter to just X, isn't a change that is obviously remarkable. The color is still blue, except for a few buttons color which changed. The previous bird logo clearly communicated the idea behind the creation of Twitter, which is to communicate by sharing opinions, views, gist, gossip.
 He should change the twitter name too, to fit the X logo he currently launched.
Also, am yet to really see how the implementation of other features to fulfil Elons' dream of promoting freedom of speech on Twitter is doing and what new features they introduced that stands out from its former glory.

I can honestly say that many people around me have complained about the radical change efforts on twitter. maybe Musk's mistake is that he can't tell us exactly the platform he wants to create. but people don't seem to want any other innovation on twitter except for minor improvements. i think he wants to make it a platform where more crypto aware people can use it and get some work done, but i think it's too early for that. as you said, millions of ordinary people use this platform and he should make it a more democratic and user request based platform instead of using it like a rich kid playing with his toy. otherwise this decline will continue.

Many users are lost from Twitter due to Twitter's name and logo change. Personally speaking, I find it very bad now.  And now I ignore Twitter. That's exactly how many users are leaving Twitter. This is a wrong decision of Elon Musk on the other hand now anyone can buy a verified badge in exchange of money on Twitter due to which now many fake accounts are also getting verified badge.  Due to this, it is becoming difficult to find a legal company's Twitter page.  This is another fault of Twitter.  I don't know why Elon Musk is doing this.  I personally condemn it

Take McDonalds rebranding for example. Search in google how McDonalds looked 20-40-60 years ago. They have completely change the way their restaurants look, the way employees look (uniform), the way menu look (wrapping and etc). Do you think less people started to visit McDonalds or change their taste? Imho every company needs a rebranding. Standing on one place, while industry is walking forward is wrong. Rebranding was needed. In fact, Elon has changed only the logo. Everything else stayed the same. Users habits remained the same. Every single button is on a same place.

You have a point because there is new management on it, so for sure having to change its name and branding is a possibility because the original owner is not there anymore, and those people who invest to earn big on it have a responsibility to change it on whatever they want too. Also, I don't see people laving Twitter ber like the purpose is the same ,but correc m e if i am wrnng as i am not reall into Ttwiteer as i a into Facacebook but you ar righ right functions are there and stil what Twitttwitter before is still the same riht nowow so i don't really understand why.

Behind the change of name there used to be some reason and the same won't be exposed in the short time. Over time people will come to know or the real reason behind the new name. For now it looks like it is his tag letter, because almost everything he owns have got a X. Earlier it is the SpaceX and now Twitter getting rebranded to "X" which could make changes.

I'm sure there is a reason for the rebranding of the name and specifically using X. Twitter or X, is still the same platform with some changes that the developers and its current owner believe to make user experience the best. Explanation as to why it is X does not have to be a big deal as it still remains to be the social media platform people use to connect. In fact, I agree with both of you about it not being a big deal. X or Twitter, it will still be used by many and it will not be the sole cause as to why the platform will (possibly) fall one day.

Changing a site's interface is quite common but this is completely different. If McDonald's changed their name and logo overnight it would be a really big deal. So far not many people are calling Twitter by it's new name so the rebranding is not very effective. This one thing might not be what kills Twitter but if they keep making unpopular changes people will become frustrated and abandon the platform.

They are not making these changes overnight. Elon has changed the logo of Twitter, but the URL and interface remains the same. I haven't noticed much differences apart from the logo. The URL may eventually change, but by then people may get used to it. On a serious note, I don't think that any of the users are going to be bothered. And it is same with other social media platforms as well. Do you really believe that if Facebook or Instagram changes the logo or brand name, then the users are going to abandon it?

It seems that this is not just X, but more a cross. Twitter is just one of the ends, so we get 3 or just more services, possibilities, or what ever they will come up with to come. For example it might be a social media + wallet + marketplace + app. Combination, collaboration, synergy of multiple services in one place. That is what I see in X. So until all the ideas are realized, it is early to talk about fall of Twitter.

Twitter is failing and of all the policies and regulations that Musk has imposed, the one that hurts me the most is that it this will be disastrous for activists too. A lot of campaign information is shared via twitter, and a lot of activists use twitter because the censorship on twitter differed greatly to the censorship on other apps. I worry what will happen to activists living in countries where it is hard to get mainstream media coverage of what goes on in their country, and when it does, it's because twitter and other social platforms have highlighted the issue. I have also seen a lot of local activism and people sharing their own stories on twitter because mainstream media won't cover it. It could harm freedom of speech and allow mainstream media and news to control what we see.

On the contrary, I see that he is trying to turn it into something bigger than what the old twitter offered. The most recent policy is the revenue sharing policy for users, and that's what everyone is actively responding to and supporting. This is something no other social network can do and what he's doing is worth watching.

I don't care about the revenue share that X social network is providing but many people in my country are excited and they see it as a new source of income for them. How will these cause twitter to fail?

He's arguably one of the smartest men in the world. I don't think he has any interest in buying Twitter and satisfying his personal tastes. However, there is something wrong and Twitter is losing value all the time. I think if Twitter, like YouTube, shared its revenues with content creators, things could be good again. Elon Musk should change the selfish nature of Twitter and put less restrictions on users. If he doesn't have any other ideas, he can make things right again by taking these simple measures.

I don't think, Twitter changing its logo is the main reason people are leaving Twitter. People might be leaving Twitter because of the way it has been monetized, like the verified badge you mentioned of. Even at that, no social media is yet to challenge Twitter in its wide exposure and outreach of information and businesses. The Thread app that we thought will do well to replace Twitter, where is it today? It's nowhere close to Twitter in performance

I am not sure about this. First of all, Twitter generates only a fraction of the revenue that YouTube generates. So it is not an apple to apple comparison. The argument that Twitter is losing its value doesn't sound accurate for me. The market-share is there and nothing is going to change that. Even Zuckerberg with his Threads failed in capturing the market share from Twitter, despite having overwhelming support from the ecosystem. And don't ever underestimate Elon Musk. He is the world's richest man for a reason.

Today is the first day people receive money from Twitter's revenue sharing policy, I am seeing people showing off the money they received from Elon. Although the amount is not too large, it shows that Elon is gradually reshaping this social network and I believe it is gradually becoming more complete. Unlike a lot of people who are criticizing him for killing Twitter, on the contrary, what I find is that it is becoming more attractive.

You are right, if he is not intelligent and talented, how can he be the wealthiest man in the world? But funny is that there are a lot of idiots out there who are jealous of him and always speak badly of him.

Left-wing ecosystem was rattled after Elon took over Twitter and restored freedom of speech. Before the acquisition, Twitter was a left-winger's ultimate dreamland. When people like Vijaya Gadde and Yoel Roth were in charge, they used to ban accounts that would put up anything even remotely related to right-wing. On the other hand, left-wing lunatics and Islamist fanatics who openly advertise genocide against "non-believers" were given a free run. But all of that changed once Elon took over. Initially everyone was predicting that Twitter would not survive if a majority of the staff is laid off. But the platform is doing fine, even after the staff-strength was reduced by 90%.

Well there is a big part of twitter that is going to go away. Elon Musk has said that there will be no more blocking of accounts. We will only be allowed to block DM's.

I do not know how I feel about this. If there is a person that is bothering someone I think he can have a right to block him.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/elon-musk-says-x-will-strip-ability-block-accounts-2023-08-19/

There must be a big reason behind Twitter changing its name and logo to X. Just as Facebook is now under the control of Meta, I think Elon Musk is planning to open a big company called X, that's why he changed Twitter's name and logo to X. Just as Meta controls all social media including facebook messenger instagram, I think Elon Musk will bring some more social media into the market and his social media may be controlled by X company. Since we don't have any confirmed news, we can only assume that for now and Elon Musk's Twitter name and logo change. Since Elon Musk has not explained any reason for having his Twitter account logo and name X, we may have to wait to know the exact reason.

I get what you mean but having Twitter and McDonalds or other fast-food chains isn't really a good comparison to begin with. They are both going for a re-branding, yes that is good, but it should have limits, and Twitter got itself twisted because the logo has fully changed without any trace, at all, that it was once the Twitter we knew and that is one of the reasons why they are losing users and as the analyst says, the drop will continue towards 2024 if they cannot find any way to resolve their problems.

Just because you stopped using twitter doesn't mean others are doing the same and not to mention it is attracting new users. The people I'm following on Twitter are even more active thanks to the free speech or Twitter's revenue sharing policy for users, and I don't see any data reporting that the user is leaving the social network since it changed the logo. I know Twitter's blue bird logo is ingrained in our minds, and we get annoyed when it gets changed but that's no reason to think Elon is making a mistake. Don't forget that he is someone who has successfully run many companies and brands. He knows how to please his customers, don't criticize him for just a few small changes. Instead, wait and see what happens with this social network.

We know the downside of this situation, so it might be a problem if we can't block someone who is bothering us. But this situation also has a plus side. Increased interaction in X also increases the amount of money you can earn. Many large accounts will have increased their interaction with the opening of the accounts they have blocked.

Of course, the number of people who prefer this is not very large, and it is not right to impose such an obligation. I prefer accounts that I have blocked to stay that way. This should be offered as an option.

I think his idea is that Twitter is supposed to be a place where everyone is supposed to be free to say what they think and those ideas are supposed to flow as much as possible, even among people who do not necessarily agree with one another or even dislike one another.

On the other hand, the capacity of being able to block accounts is such a basic feature which so many people have taken for granted for so long, that it could lead more people not to participate as actively as they usually do, because they would see in their feed people who they would rather to ignore completely.

I don't know how he thought this was going to be a good idea...

That means elon just wanna see you ignore him without block his account. Elon wants twitter to be as free as possible for anyone. Even though this idea looked like a nonsense idea to let people or someone who bothering us keep showing in our feed. Elon was just making so many changes. There are lots of people who keep using it even though they gonna face accounts that bother them. Many debates will be coming up again as haters can't be blocked. It's a smart idea to increase the interaction on the platforms. There will be a never-ending debate on twitter. Like it or not, this will give an advantage to twitter.

It will surely cause a lot of interaction and gather attention for the platform. However, it is not far-fetched to state that the possible change of removing the block feature for the social media application is too much of a change. In every social media platform, there is each user has the right to block any account they wish to. It is a feature that allows users to feel safe online as they can avoid suspicious accounts. Hence, it cannot be ignored that many, if not all, are against this change.

I also believe that by taking over Twitter he knows that the prospects that will be obtained are very large, a strange thing as an entrepreneur would buy something with the aim of wanting to lose and it would be impossible for the famous Elon Musk to do it with very detailed calculations.
actually the way he's been doing it so far by continuing to make changes on Twitter, is a way to provide opportunities for many pros and cons to continue to talk about, this is a very effective and cheap advertisement that can be done so that Twitter becomes trending,
agree, elon musk is smart and visionary [expansive insight into the future], he is able to make whatever he wants to do famous and generate profits to continue to make him rich.

I think it's a little early to admit this since Musk's projects are still under construction and we don't know what results his strange choices will lead to. These options have become somewhat strange, especially with regard to everything related to Twitter, since he began using it to publish tweets in support of the Dodge currency.
The SpaceX project is still unable to reap profits, and this may happen after the year 2030 during the next decade, which is of course not certain.
The Tesla project suffers from increasing technical problems, the most important of which is the battery production crisis, which could cause the cessation of car production if China decides to change its policy in this market, which it controls globally.
I don't know any of the projects that Elon Musk is running that are currently profitable.

Elon Musk struggling to reap profits out of his projects were getting delayed. At some point his thoughts will come true. His thoughts were different from the common man, not as a billionaire but from his early days of life. In every project there is some issue and he had been making use of available resources to make it successful. Now his involvement into Twitter is the reason for the downturn. Once after acquiring he could've left it to function for few years, in between he could've made changes.

Having an expansive insight into the future doesn't really man that he is a successful person or that his projects are an absolute success. Actually, all what he does is playing with the money of investors + big amount credits from banks with a high interest rate. The Twitter deal might not be his worst choice if he did not interfere in the affairs of management, but he started implementing major decisions without having sufficient experience in this niche. And it seems that he woke up late to appoint a new CEO for the company in an attempt to overcome the decline that the company is going through at all levels.

It is very difficult to understand what Elon Musk actually wants to do with Twitter, I saw a few days ago that he changed the Twitter loggo.  Since buying the popular social media platform Twitter, he has laid off many employees.  I doubt he really planned to sell $20B for all the stock he had with Twitter. I think the huge amount of money he bought the Twitter platform would certainly serve his purpose.  I don't believe Twitter is going to collapse because Elon Musk is not one to give up so easily.  Of course he's thinking of some new changes to take Twitter one step further.

It's now X.

If he's going to sell it from the half amount of his purchase. It's likely that he'll only sell the half of his stocks/shares from it. And AFAIK, that acquisition is still costing him to pay it continuously up til' now.

He wants it to be an all-in app/website.

If we say whether Twitter has collapsed or not, in my opinion, Twitter has collapsed since Elon Musk's entry into management, now it has changed to X, and yes, the media platform that we have known for a long time, called Twitter, has disappeared. was built a long time ago and is well known to remote areas, now it has collapsed.

how do you think the app and website work? even though to be honest he doesn't need to change the brand that has been built for a long time, he just needs to add the existing facilities on Twitter and or have integration with the new platform he is developing so that it is related so that it has a broad scope, isn't it better like that?

Well Elon Musk now has to worry about the other company of his. Now the US DOJ is suing his company SpaceX cause of discrimination.

It is against refugees the company refused to hire from their status. I do not know if this will effect twitter but it is more pressure for Elon Musk.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-sues-spacex-alleged-discrimination-against-asylees-refugees-hiring-2023-08-24/

The drastic changes after Elon's acquisition to Twitter was noticeable. There have been good but mostly bad changes from him.

Well, change is constant and there's no permanent especially on this modern digital time where every website has their own pace.

He has bought it so most of the changes will be from there and I doubt it that he's willing to collaborate it with another company and I don't know if he's got one that suits it.

Its none of our business on how he would really be making use of his money whether buying up currently existing social media companies or whatever companies that he would really be liking on purchasing and since

he's a billionaire then it wont really be that so hard on doing so. If ever we do see that this new management do make out some changes then its none of our business on how they would really be handling it out
whether if they would be retaining previous owners or management set up or would really be completely overhauling and apply out new set of rules and terms which it would really be always according
to their preference. If Elon Musks new management do fail on handling Twitter then we would really be able to see its fall but for now there are still lots or tons of people who do make use of this platform.

I dont see for it to fall anytime soon unless if there would really be some huge issue then it might be. Renaming and adding up those blue check or whatever it would be then it
would really be in accordance with their preference.

Personal I think what he did wrong was changing the entire company system and rules .in fact he just changed everything so many restrictions and I guess that's why majority of advertising firms stopped advertising there.  He just fucked up thinking everything could go his way. He should have followed the system a little and make changes more slowly. Even tho he is a genius ill say its not a very smart move from him 'Mr Twitter destroyer' ;D

I wouldn't go as far as saying that he changed everything in its entirety as there is still the main purpose of Twitter (now called X). There are just some changes that he made that are questionable in the perception or users and businessmen. However, X is still far from falling as many artists, actors and actresses, public figures, and brands are using it to promote and connect with their community and target audience. However, it is safe to say that Elon did some changes that made users unhappy for sure.

Since Elon Musk bought Twitter, it has drawn criticism. Former Twitter employees were also laid off. It was at that time that many of them could sense that big changes were coming to Twitter. Twitter is a very popular platform in the world of social media platform and users are very comfortable using this platform but nowadays most of the users are not comfortable with the change of logo and name of Twitter. But as big celebrities and common people are used to using this platform, it cannot be said that it will collapse either. But I will also say with you that users are not very happy with this change.

Whatever you say here, Elon Musk will not hear it either, let alone believe you. Because the Twitter platform now belongs to Elon Musk, he is free to do whatever he wants and he could even destroy the Twitter platform as badly as he wants. Twitter platform users could provide better suggestions to Elon Musk, but Elon Musk also has the right to reject these suggestions and users also don't need to hope that their suggestions will be well received by Elon Musk.

You have to be able to separate someone's desires from someone's business goals because besides Elon Musk who already has the right to change the entire company system and regulations, you also have to know that Elon Musk is a businessman who will continue to do everything as long as his business can run smoothly and get good profits. very much although on the other hand it can invite more criticism from the users of the Twitter platform itself.

well at the beginning of the acquisition he keeps saying that twitter is fully infested with bots, and thats true honestly.
I guess thats why he changed things around a lot nowadays with the twitter even go such lengths of renaming the entire company and logo.
but the question is, is that really a bad decision coming from elon though? by changing around the system he might have reduced the cost to make the company runs.
also he is trying hard to eliminate the bots to go as far as publishing the algorithm to find out bots in open source with hopes that it could be further advanced by the open source community.
many said that elon is doing 4d chess right now.

Indeed, the fact that Elon bought Twitter you would already expect a lot of changes since Twitter has a new owner. Elon Musk might changed almost everything at Twitter, there's nothing you can't do even the fact that most of the users doesn't like the new logos and features. I have seen a lot of artist that keep complaining that they don't feel the vibes at Twitter at all unlike before. But trust me, in just few weeks or months they will just get used to it cause that app helped them to provide their needs. From their reactions and what they've felt from the changes are really relatable and pretty normal. Imagine you were just sitting in your favorite spot in the park then it just suddenly changed with the design after all those years.

Well I think that it is looking good for Elon Musk. And maybe that twitter is not going to fall like we did think from some bad news.
It now has 6 money transmitter licenses in US states. The stares now are New Hampshire, Missouri, Michigan, Arizona, Maryland, and Georgia.
https://www.paymentsdive.com/news/x-twitter-payments-app-elon-musk-money-transmitter-license-maryland-georgia/691943/

Upon that, there is another news development that Twitter has received a Rhode Island currency transmission license. This happened a day after X(Twitter) had the 6 money transmitter license in the USA.
Link: https://beincrypto.com/x-twitter-currency-transmitter-license-rhode-island/


This directly going to mean that in no short time, Twitter is going to be functioning and allowing payment methods for crypto such as bitcoin and Ethereum. There will be a provision for it, for one to display his Bitcoin or Ethereum address in their profiles.
That's a good move from Elon Musk

Well now we know Elon Musk will do payments with crypto, Bitcoin and Ethereum on twitter. And I also do think Doge because he really likes it like we know.

And he did say that rumors of his own twitter coin are not real. https://crypto.news/elon-musk-says-x-has-no-plans-of-launching-token/

Elon plans to bring many features to the X app. The one that interests us the most is whether it will accept payments in crypto. X can be a pioneer for other applications in this regard.

As mentioned in the news, it is necessary to pay attention to fraud in tokens that appear to be issued on behalf of X but have nothing to do with X. Therefore, we need to be careful when investing. After X, other applications may also accept cryptocurrency payments because X is a big application and other applications can take it as an example.

That's for sure gonna happen with the X as an "All-in" app. Payment integration will happen and acceptance of specific cryptos. Yes, Doge might be there but who knows really if he'll add it.

He likes to tweet a lot and troll a lot of meme coins like Doge but he has never add that as payment to his company. Maybe it's a corporate decision but having the most stocks/shares of a company, he can implement it any time he wants.

Scammers are taking advantage of his popularity so it's probably from them.

Yes and if there was a x coin it would not be 'bullish' for crypto hodlers. If Elon Musk did have his own x coin, I think we would see more investors sell their crypto.
And begin to invest in his coin.  Twitter is so big I think I would be even investing in his new coin.

As for me, I don't know what I'll react with that if he ever announces that. We know that project is just going to be for hype and clout but in terms of development, we don't really know.

Many will surely ride the fame and popularity of it because that's what the market is and it's all for the money where people can get it as quickly as possible.

That's a normal reaction if you're going to take it as well because that's what many people that looks at him will do.

Fruits of Elon's top notch branding:

Top ranked free apple appstore apps:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/03/mSjdc.png

Oh my, threads there, that must hurt, so where's elon?

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/03/mSrFP.png

Oh there it is, 66th right below daily routine planner. I guess this is part of some Elmo's brilliant plan. He wouldn't suck at this, would he?
It must be a brilliant planner because it beats twitter.

Maybe top ranked google play apps looks better:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/03/mSfZ5.png

Threads again in top 3? oh my, that got to hurt. So where's elon?

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/03/mSykz.png

44 billion dollars ladies and gentlemen. Maybe one day twitter goes over the sleeper fantasy sports. That will be the victory day.
And even Elon just admitted that this could fail like everyone predicted. What a giga brain.

data from: appfigures

It kind of reminds the the effort Telegram has been doing to try to integrate payments to their messaging ecosystem, using their own coin and also stablecoins.

It would seem to be a trend of social media and other messaging apps to try to get a slice of the market off Paypal and even Visa or Mastercard, but the inertia of the public is high, and there is still much public who do not trust crypto to transfer value, hence the survival of the old system..

If Elon indeed integrates Doge and other coins to Twitter, it would be big, not doubt in my mind Mark and his threads team would be salty about it, keeping in mind their Libra/Diem fiasco.

App Store is based in your location. My top free apps list is completely different. However, Threads and Twitter both are not among popular apps in my country. And if I search for social network, then Instagram, WhatsApp and Discord are on my top3. Twitter is somewhere in top10, and I probably scrolled search for a minute and did not find Threads there. So everything is relative with tops and apps.

Well I think we are going to see Doge coin for payments on twitter before others. We all know how Elon Musk thinks about it.

The next week we will see Elon Musks new biography about his investment in it and his support for his favorite cryptocurrency.

https://www.binance.com/en/feed/post/1084008

He bought one of the most popular social media platform in the world with a significant amount of money and after buying that social media platform many people lost their jobs and recently he changed the logo and name of Twitter. We know that Elon Musk has a space research company Space X. Maybe he changed the name of Twitter to match the name of Space X, he changed the name of Twitter to X only. Elon Musk must have some purpose behind buying Twitter because he never does anything without a purpose and since he has invested such a huge amount of money on just one social media, he is going to do something different with this social media in the future which is beyond our imagination.

This is not simply a social network for fun, entertainment, or a hobby for him, with the iconic X logo covered in mysterious black. This is probably an Internet revolution. Elon Musk will make it Web 3.0. Elon Musk will apply artificial intelligence and blockchain to achieve an internet connection as close to the real world as possible. It sounds far-fetched. But I believe with talent and madness, he will do something great.

It is a matter of curiosity what the cryptocurrency that Elon Musk will use for the X application will be. For now, Doge seems more likely than other coins. If Elon makes such a choice, Doge coin can come to very different places in the coming bull season. If this happens, I wonder where Doge will rise in price.

The X application seems to lead many innovations in the near future. Using crypto in applications is good news for crypto.

Sure, i took that chart from United States as it wouldn't make sense to get it from where i live.
In Finnish list ex twitter would be in 188th place in apple appstore, and it isn't in top 200 list of android apps. Threads isn't even available here in EU because of our privacy laws. I am guessing it ends up being in high on the list in here too as instagram is so popular too.

That might be, if that platform survives. Elon is already neck deep in problems because of his doge manipulation. He has also stated that he would like doge to be changed to POS. It just shows his level of understanding how cryptocurrencies work.

And now we are learning some more about Elon Musk and his love for Doge coin. There was leaked documents saying he is more involved in it then we thought so.

It talks about Elon Musk wanting a a social media platform where we pay to become verified. https://bitcoinist.com/elon-musks-biography-dogecoin/

What's even crazier is that I recently found some analysis and price predictions of Doge, and many say it could reach 2-3 USD for the next bull season if Elon actually integrates it into his X platform. Besides, there is also some leaked information saying that Elon has been quietly pouring money into Doge developers for many years and that he has a really long-term plan, not simply having fun with crypto.

Well, for me Twitter is dead and now X is bringing more features and fun. I don't know who said that Elon is destroying this social network, but as someone who has used Twitter for many years, I am satisfied with what X has.

Well Elon Musk has said his company twitter has lost 90% of its value. And now it is only worth $4 Billion.
He is blaming it on the Anti-Defamation League. He is saying it tried to kill his social media platform. He says advertisers do not want to advertise with X anymore and he wants to sue the ADL.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/05/elon-musk-sue-adl-x-twitter

Well now the EU is saying Elon Musk must be careful with what is being said on Twitter. It is about the fake news and Russian propaganda.

It comes from a report https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/news/code-practice-disinformation-new-reports-available-transparency-centre

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/26/eu-warns-elon-musk-that-twitter-x-must-comply-with-fake-news-laws

Well Elon Musk has now fired more Twitter employees. This has come after the news of the EU saying Twitter has the most disinformation of all the social media.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/28/elon-musk-ditches-x-twitter-election-integrity-team-key-votes-disinformation

Maybe he might just lose money because, of course, he seems to be starting over on Twitter, but I think he can still survive on the Twitter company he bought. That's a business person, and he will definitely be able to do that with a new marketing strategy to recover those who lost to him.

And he probably also expected the same risk he did on Twitter; he can't be called a tycoon businessman if he just makes a decision in a hurry. Of course, we don't know; maybe he is observing what is happening, and while he is facing a circumstance, he may be thinking of a way or solution to that matter.

Will you guys pay for Twitter if Elon Musk starts to charge a monthly membership fee? He says he wants to do that to combat bots on the site.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-wants-pay-x-130014404.html

Twitter or X is as active as never before. I don't think Elon Musk can fck it up that hard that people start seriously switching to another platform. Even if they gonna implement a subscription model, most people will just pay.

Why is Elon Musk acting like there is not alternative to X. Twitter is not the only available social blogging platform but they are better in principle of operation unlike the Facebook and thread. I like x but at this point, they are doing too much. What happened to ads monetization and the millions of dollar they get daily from companies, isn't that one enough to cover running cost and operations, he should try it and see if it's going to work but I'm sure that it will hit back on him afterany deactivation of accounts.

Despite the verified subscription, how many users pay for the service, or who knows the amount of paid subscribers didn't increases as they expected and that's why they now want to force users to pay. The head of advicer need to do better than this.

Not paying lol. There are plenty of social media platforms and I am not an active user of X only when there is crpyto news that I am checking which still has not had a big impact on me if I cannot access it if they implement that subscription fee.

It will be a big loss for Elon if he proceeds on this as there are a lot of users that don't want to spend any cents on X because they aren't getting any money from them unless they are really care on the profile that they build on twitter, luckly i was on another social media platform though ads is just annoying.

I disgree. Twitter or X used to be filled with more users before compared to how it is now as most influencers and communities are finding more joy and entertainment using TikTok as a social platform. If you were using Twitter around 2018-2020 you'll realized that it was the peak of Twitter where different communities are constantly fighting for the worldwide top trending list.

Moreover, yes people will switch to another platform instead of paying just to have the basic access of using Twitter/X. You have to remember that majority of Twitter/X users are teenagers who are mostly relying on their school allowance for money. Why would anyone pay to use the basic features of a social media platform when there are free alternative ones?

Well after 5 years there is a account called Satoshi that is now active on twitter again. There was rumors that Elon Musk was control of this twitter account.

But now the community notes say it is owned by Craig Wright. That is a person we dont trust in the crypto community and I do not want him to control it.

https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cryptocurrency/23/10/35039267/rumored-satoshi-nakamoto-account-reactivates-after-5-years-with-cryptic-message-for-bitcoi

Wow. Never thought that after purchasing Twitter, Elon Musk would get access to accounts database and use old or inactive accounts for his own profit. It wasnt mentioned that he has done it personally, nor it was done under his command or it was somehow proved that he was involved. But just imagine what hype and resonance would be created, if such accounts as Satoshi Nakamoto or other famous cryptocurrency related people would start shilling meme-coins or similar. And it all would happen under the sauce «cases when youtube channels were stolen, Elon Musk live conferences were aired, with BTC and ETH address in description with sign send me 1 BTC, I will send you 2 BTC back».

We don't know exactly who owns that account, but I think if Elon is really a fan of bitcoin then he should delete that account because it will cause a lot of misunderstanding in the bitcoin community. I also saw this news and people are discussing this issue a lot, there is even a topic discussing this fake account on our forum. What's more worth mentioning is that this fake account even bought Twitter's blue checkmark, which will make many people easily mistake this as really the real Satoshi.

Yes, that's right, right now there is a lot of excitement about the return of the Twitter account with the username @satoshi, which is causing excitement because the account was active again 186 days before the Bitcoin halving. But I believe it is not a real satoshi. Because if you look at the Satoshi account again, the account uses a Twitter Blue subscription. What we know and need to know is that the blue badge is now associated with a paid subscription so this is definitely not a sign of authenticity.

He owns the company, account holders have no rights to their accounts anymore. So i have no doubt that musk would take the satoshi account if it would benefit him.

Take account @x for example. It was handle of, Gene X Hwang who owned and build it from the start of twitter. Musk replaced it with handle @x12345678998765 And obviously there was no compensation for that.

Elon was never fan of bitcoin, in fact he hardly understood it. You can pretty much see that from his tweets when he is confused about pow and wants doge to turn PoS. What he was fan of, was attention and praise of the crypto community. But what he was doing all along was just pure price manipulation, and it was just another playground for him to destroy.

He kicked the whole team because their manager liked a tweet calling him a f***ing Dips**t. Imagine that. I guess he wants to fund their legal fees against Musk because elon has promised to cover the legal fees of anyone getting cancelled because something they did on twitter.

I know Elon's ultimate goal is profits like ours, but bitcoin also brought him significant profits. So I hope he pays attention to the news related to that fake account and deletes it to avoid affecting the bitcoin community.

As for manipulation, it is always a way for rich people to make money, we don't like it because we don't have as much money as they do. To be fair, I believe that if you or I had a lot of money, we would not ignore market manipulation to make money, it is part of any financial game that we need to adapt to.

Well now we know who is the person who created the satoshi twitter account. His name is Andy Rowe and he is the friend of Craig Wright.

But still we do not know who did send out the tweet few fays back since 5 years. https://www.vice.com/en/article/ak347b/satoshi-nakamoto-just-posted-wtf-is-going-on

He's the owner of it so that makes sense that he's got access to it whenever he want to access it. But if he ever does that, that loses his credibility for what the service is all about and what he advocates of having free speech.

I didn't even know if he has done that but if he really done that for real then that would make a lot of users leave their accounts there and go somewhere else.

YouTube has more of a monopoly than Twitter and has taken aggressive measures to try and force people into subscribing to YouTube Premium and yet only about 3% of users have actually subscribed.


When Jack Dorsey was running Twitter they did suspend the @Satoshi account soon after it was suspected that Craig Wright had taken over. With Musk reversing all the previous suspensions it has given scammers an opportunity to spread disinformation. They have already set a precedent of suspending parody accounts and this isn’t any different. If Craig can’t prove he’s Satoshi, the account is in violation of rules regarding impersonation and should be suspended.

LOL.. when Elon took over Twitter and fired more than 90% of the staff, there were a lot of posts in social media claiming that Twitter is going to collapse and they need the "experienced" employees to make sure that everything is in order. Many months have passed and I haven't noticed any major change in my user experience with Twitter. All the doomsday predictions seems to have failed! I just hope that my own employer doesn't follow the example set by Elon and fire majority of the workforce. BTW, Google and Facebook also took steps to reduce workforce strength in recent months.

It is not rocket science to understand the obvious on X (twitter). The approach Elon has on twitter is not much helpful, irrespective of the fact that he decided to monetize certain features into looking like a web3 platform, he is enjoying the OG status twitter has, if he had setup a social network himself and started from the scratch, it won't be easy to achieve this feat.

Well now Elon Musk has now made another change to Twitter. He is removing headlines because he thinks it will make posts look better.

Now we will only see the main image and the domain link. I do not think this is a bad change and it does make it look nice when I scroll on my phone.

There is a article that is very negative about Elon Musk and his twitter purchase. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-commentary/elon-musk-killed-twitter-one-year-1234840622/

the last news I heard was that Elon Musk is going to make a paid version of twitter because the current version contains a lot of bots that he can't even handle so he decided to make a paid version. I'm sure many people will leave Twitter if that really happens. I would prefer not to use Twitter again if that happens. I hope Elon Musk will think again about the worse impacts of making Twitter paid.

Yes, that's also the most recent news I heard regarding Twitter (now called X). Although I get where he's coming from since bots have been a long-term issue with that social media platform for such a long time now. Recently tho, it has been causing more problems as more and more users are being victimized by these bots regarding bad promotions and negative campaigns. However, I don't think turning the free social media platform into a paid one is the best action here since, much like you have stated, users will most likely leave the platform and opt for a different one. Personally, I wouldn't choose to pay to have access to it especially since I know it will only grant me the basic features of the platform that I have enjoyed freely for years.

Elon Musk is Top-notch in his abilities and moves.
I think there is a target behind every actions and he might come up with a big hints someday.

I know it has been a big challenge to many users.
Mostly he might be scared of defeat so he's taking it so lightly like nothing is wrong but he should come up with good inputs to all of this as it's  not helping.

As someone who uses twitter every single day for work, I have to say it is getting even worse nowadays. I keep tab on whats going on in the crypto world and the amount of irrelevant posts I see on the home page grows bigger and bigger. In fact, I am sure that irrelevant posts are a lot more than relevant ones. You can always go pick "following" if you want to, but that only limits to who you follow and what they posted, "for you" should be regarding what I am interested in, and as a person who has over a thousand people I follow, its obvious that all of them are crypto and I should be seeing more finance and crypto related stuff, not some highlights of a football game, certainly not a small one neither, I get that if its like world cup finals then yeah show it to everyone, but why am I seeing bottom table serie A game goal highlights. Its getting more and more broken every single day.

That made me chuckle. What abilities and moves are those? Ability for hostal takeover? He most likely just destroyed twitter, and frankly that makes me sad as i started to like it before all this.

I am just hoping that someone with half a brain buys that from him. At this point i would even welcome CZ to buy it. At least then we knew what we get.

Imagine if elon the felon took twitter from private to public again. Marketcap would dump so low it would be embarassment next to any company, or elmo would just manipulate the price, and later get sued by it.

Good read:
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-commentary/elon-musk-killed-twitter-one-year-1234840622/

I was wondering if all these reports of Twitter losing users and being a total failure thanks to Musk might be exaggerated but I looked at the numbers on SimilarWeb, which is a pretty reliable source of website traffic, and it does indeed show a sharp drop. Some of it might be bot traffic but if Musk was doing such a great job you would see an increase in genuine users and the drop off wouldn't be so dramatic.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/06/P0uwH.md.png (https://www.talkimg.com/image/P0uwH) 


The For You feed is awful and the Following feed only sorts tweets in chronological order so if you follow lots of people you will miss out on important tweets if you don't scroll down far enough. The reason why there are so many irrelevant posts showing up in people's feeds is because they are trying to disguise ads as organic posts. Even while using an ad blocker and using the web version I started seeing posts for electric vehicles even though I have no interest in them whatsoever. Unlabeled ads go against FTC regulation so we will see if they decide to take action.

Sadly, I believe his ego would not allow him to either sell the company to anyone or even go public (he knows the value per share will be way lower than when he bought them). To me, for now the best option for the future of Twitter would be if he ditched his pride and stepped down as CEO of Twitter and put someone who knows what they are doing, he being then just an observer.

Hopefully, after a year or two, he could get back the valuation back where it used to be.

It can change over time but it seems that many people hated Elon for such actions about the instant laying off of his employees.
This is like the protest and backlash that he's getting from that action that he did back before.
It's not surprising when many users of the great Twitter have stopped using it and also about the verified badge monthly subscription, many just didn't like it too.

Personally, X or twitter is my favorite application of all the platforms because of its feature and services that it provides. But the time when Elon took over, a lot of things has changed, and just like the other users of the platform, I did not like the changes he made on the app. And it is not surprising to see a gradual loss in terms of the percentage of the users. One of the best features of twitter is its accessibility to news and trends, and it is not favorable for its users to be required to have monthly subscriptions just to use the application. And this is clearly evident as a lot of users had leave the platform. There are also a lot of changes that contributed on the backlash of people such as paying just for your account to be verified and its rebranding as "X". But again, we still cannot tell about the future of 'X'. It's either these changes can bring success or downfall of the platform.

I think even he has seen the writing on the wall and just had to put his pride aside if he wanted still valued the app. He has appointed Linda Yaccarino to be CEO for some months now. But apparently, stepping down as CEO didn’t make him just an observer. He’s still very active it’s almost like Linda is more or less a figure head as Elon still feels very much in charge and actively involved in the activities and running of the app.

His constant interactions with posts and with certain individuals on the app could hinder to an extent, whatever his visions may have for the app when he bought it.

Elon Musk is acting like an authoritarian leader, his actions of terminating his employees will be a ticking time bomb for Twitter's future. He tries to replace employees by relying on Bots, he seems to forget something that there are certain parts that can only be completed by humans and cannot be completed by Bots.
Many Twitter users are starting to get bored with the appearance of the Twitter application after it was acquired by Elon Musk, so they are slowly starting to rarely use the platform which is now known as X. I'm starting to assume there will be new competitors who can bring down X if Elon Musk is still too authoritarian, Moreover, I heard news about Elon Musk's intention to charge fees to users of the platform.

I agree with you as much like you I am also a fan of Twitter back then. I use Twitter on a daily basis and use the platform to ensure I am updated by news and current events while also keeping connections to various communities I am a part of. However, when these changes applied by Elon Musk happened, more and more users that I used to interact with started to leave, and I have also noticed that my feed is full of random tweets from users I don't follow which makes it hard for me to see the tweets I wanna see. Lastly, the amounts of advertising tweets are too much.

Yeah, many didn't really like when Elon acquired it and then became involved with most of its changes.
If he just let it all go and let all the current staff do their thing and just get his hands off the platform, there can still be a lot of good things that he might receive for being the management.
But being an actual guy to does all of these changes, that's when many didn't liked it and even the name replacement.

Twitter is the most used social media application worldwide. By buying this platform, Elon Musk did not buy a social media app. Elon Musk bought the data of millions of users. He also bought the ability to manipulate millions of users. This is the equivalent of godlike power. I think it's priceless to have that power. And I think behind closed doors there is the possibility of monetizing that power.

Well technically he is not CEO. It's Linda Yaccarino now, who is claiming that advertisers are coming back. Which is most likely a lie (https://www.mediamatters.org/twitter/linda-yaccarino-again-claims-advertisers-are-returning-x-here-are-facts). But she is paper ceo anyway as musk definiltely wants to control everything. That's why he bought it.

I see no way that he would like to be out of spotlight. That's all he ever wanted, attention and acceptance. Now there's a crowd that accepts and adores him. And i am thinking that's why he bought it with overvalued price, so he could tap on that without any rules he don't like.

Every time I see this I think its a mistake, their corporate value is partly contained inside that brand name.  Literally they created a new verb, their brand name became part of the English language and yet its discarded as though worthless.
  Why could they not have X and Twitter and use both at same time, I see no problem with that.  Really a move disliked by the majority of people imo and quite pointless.  
  
I would imagine that is true.  Doesnt have to be that this website is run perfectly for companies to want their adverts to appear on the site and its traffic of quite mainstream people, various demographics etc.   Advertising is a global marketplace, before Bitcoin came to be it was said advertising is the lifeblood of the internet because it provided revenue to sites that would have none otherwise and created content and the paid the people for it basically.  Its quite true, its a positive and also an ongoing demand companies want to pay twitter or X because it has the traffic, simple as that nobody has to conclude they like Elon Musk but I see adverts on all kinds of iffy websites and X is no worse then them.

that could be the case. but it seems so far elon just want to purely monetize those hundred millions of users that previously were considered so much waste of potential by the previous twitter management.
but so far, elon's strategy in monetizing twitter has been quite controversial honestly though he has made hundred millions out of it and his idea of selling blue tick and gold tick badge itself just already earn him some huge chunk amount of money.
i wonder what would be elon's next strategy in further monetizing the twitter, it seems quite interesting honestly seeing elon with his unique strategy.

The reason why Elon Musk is acting all this way is because Twitter (X) has yet to have a competitor that could challenge it. If Twitter had, a strong social media competitor, Elon Musk wouldn't have been acting authoritatively like doing whatever he chooses at any given time. Just imagine that every Twitter user had to pay before they could have access to Twitter. That sounds absurd to me.

If this is to be implemented, Elon Musk should consider many people leaving Twitter as the cause of the development

he can be making mistake but honestly such enigmatic person like elon is definitely hard to predict, he is a billionaire not without any reason.
he definitely has his own reasoning and whether it would succeeds its still a question but I believe that even if his plan with twitter fails he's still got billions on his arsenal to make it up though.
definitely a risk taker i'd say.
but honestly with twitter the way he could make his money back is rather obvious just enforce monetizing and thats it, he's already set.

The money he makes from selling bule and yellow ticks won't be much because most of Twitter's revenue comes from advertising so what he needs to do is attract more companies and users. According to some information I have, he wants to turn X into a super application, not just a simple social network like twitter in the past. Furthermore, I agree with what Flipme said, he has a bigger goal for Twitter than just making money. Twitter is America's favorite social network and it is very beneficial for things like political manipulation and that is Elon's real goal. I wouldn't be surprised if Elon enters a future presidential election.

For someone like Elon, if he doesn't plan it, it's almost impossible. Even though their plans are strange, creative and genius people are different from ordinary people. Elon's plan has been fulfilled, namely firing Twitter employees he doesn't like or reorganizing Twitter so that later the team at Twitter can handle/control everything, even remotely. From the start, Elon did not intend to handle Twitter directly, which is why he is not currently serving as CEO of Twitter.

Yes, that's right, I like Elon because he is very democratic, he wants Twitter to be a platform with freedom of opinion. Where other platforms have difficulty doing that.

What is in the spotlight is that he decided to change his name to "x". Just changing the logo/brand design can sometimes fail, now is he changing the logo/design + brand name? The Twitter name has stuck and it's almost impossible for anyone else to claim it. From this we can judge that Elon Musk likes the challenge of wanting to be noticed and in the spotlight by many groups.

Yup, and there's no way i would adjust calling twitter other than twitter, ever. And luckily i am not in a position i can decide to do that. I won't be downloading the app. And will use desktop version if i need my account again. But it's always twitter to me.

He is like a rich bully in the playground who buys the public playground and kicks your sand castles down if you don't bow to him.
While saying that it's not called a playground anymore, that we have to call it park of losers or he kicks us out.

He can just kick everyone's account if "tweets" and "twitter" are too much of slurs to him. I wouldn't mind. He already killed twitter

People stick to believing this genius branding that he build, but he is no genius. He wasn't a child prodigy, but a normal bright child with autism from wealthy family. I would even suspect him having mild inattentive ADHD because of his childhood troubles at the school. And i m suspecting he might be self medicating symptoms, as it's public info he takes small doses of ketamine.
And this is not a diss, i have autism and adhd too, and there's nothing wrong with those. It just explains some of the eccentric behavior.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/09/RZ7DH.png

He desperately wants to be edgy and cool, noticed and adored.

He wants to be famous, now he is infamous of doing such things. Who would have thought that the riches man in the world would start talking about DOGE in the first place?

Now he rebranded the Twitter, changed it to 'X' what a clueless and useless name for a social media platform. I see what he is trying to do here, he wanted to be noticed, recognize for some stupid stuff, and get called genius for making rockets. I saw the drop of Twitter users after this bold and crazy move.

That's the blood of social media paltform, advertisement is their common or main source of revenue aside from some paid features. I see facebook turning all-in-one social media where you can buy goods as well, they are pretty much the same actually.

The twitter account for Satoshi is now sending out cryptic messages. It was a tweet in reverse '4202 raey eht ni ecnedive fo stol htiw delaever eb lliw ma I ohw fo yretsym ehT'.

And what it says is '“The mystery of who I am will be revealed with lots of evidence in the year 2024'. https://twitter.com/satoshi

LOL.. Bio says "Joined May 2018".. I would not waste anytime on this account, as it was setup by some scammer. But I am surprised that the account @satoshi went unclaimed until 2018. Why no one noticed it? Anyway, the only account that was created by the real Satoshi is here in Bitcointalk. Here is the account, and it was created back in 2009:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

Satoshi is actually the third user to register to this forum. He joined on 19th November 2009 and was active here for close to 13 months. This was the last post that he made (12th December 2010):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2228.msg29479#msg29479

Yes I think you are right we must not take the account so seriously. But we are normal people and when we see spotting of 'satoshi' we all get excited to think what if it is the real person.

And now we must ask ourself why now if the account doing this. And why did he take a long time off. Or maybe even it is satosi and he is just late to join Twitter.

Well now Elon Musk is going to fight bots with the 'Not a Bot' program he is starting. It will begin in countries of New Zealand and the Philippines for price of $1 each year.

New accounts will be allowed to tweet, reply, quote, repost, like, bookmark, and create lists. I think this is a good start to fight off the bots.

https://www.engadget.com/x-is-starting-to-charge-new-users-1-per-year-to-send-tweets-000925191.html

So basically it will cost a dollar to create a fully working twitter account. Auto registration and account seller will be the next to get rich. On one hand, $1 a year isnt much, specially when we pay monthly 9.99 for Netflix, 13,99 for YouTube premium, 14,99 for Amazon prime and 7,99 for Spotify. On the other hand, those who did not want to pay a dollar can always do what most of bots do - follow and read.

Elon Musk's social network is losing audience after the entrepreneur came to power...
Analytical company Similarweb summed up the results of the first year of X (formerly Twitter) under the leadership of Elon Musk. As it turned out, over the past 12 months, the social network has lost a significant part of its audience: in September 2023, the portal’s audience in the United States decreased by 19% compared to last year. A similar situation arose in other countries, including Australia (-17.5%), Germany (-17.9%), France (-13.4%) and the UK (-11.6%).

Global traffic to the desktop platform was down 14% year-over-year, and U.S. mobile traffic was down 17.8%. In addition, advertisers are gradually leaving Twitter. Over the past year, traffic in the advertising section of ads.twitter.com has decreased by 16.5% and continues to fall.

https://www.similarweb.com/blog/insights/social-media-news/x-twitter-musk/

YouTube premium, Amazon prime and Spotify are services for which it is difficult to find a worthy replacement, and as for social networks, it seems to me that the situation here is different, you are right that a dollar is a small fee, but if this is a new user and he has not yet understands the benefits of Twitter for himself, then perhaps he will not want to pay anything but will go and register where it will be free for him.

Maybe you'll get rid of a few bots but you will also drive away legitimate users by putting up a paywall to use Twitter. Real users might not want to pay even $1 because using centralized payment systems usually involves disclosing personal information. Bot farms won't care and will just buy up old accounts from non-paywalled users for pennies on the dollar. This will deteriorate the quality of the site even more which will drive out more users, which will drive out advertisers, which will lead to more rent seeking from Musk. He is creating problems for the purpose of selling the solution.

Well you do have the point but in relation to the problem, then whats your solution to this? Fighting bots which it is really indeed a common problem.Come to think that these people are billionaires
and its impossible that they havent been able to think up clearly on what would be the solution for this yet no matter how strong your security is but having those bypasses could really be still that possible
and this isnt something that solely that Twitter/X is suffering into but also in other industries as well on which solution cant really be that perfected. This is why he do came up on having the idea on
imposing that $1 fee or sub amount or whatever called it is. You do have the point on telling that people would really be just simply buying up those accounts considering that it is cheap.
Dont know if this one would really be that a final amount or price or there's still chance that it would be changed up.

People do really love just that focusing about its cons without even trying out to see its pros and benefits or for the sake of safety. People do really love on discriminating and keeps on telling that this is for the sole
purpose of making money which i could say its really just that normal. He's running a platform at the same time running a business that he had bought for multi millions on which it would really be just that
right that he would really be trying out to get some amount or profit with those kind of actions which its none of our business imho.

Since no solution has been found for bots, a normal user has to pay for the changes made. I don't think this is the right behavior. I don't care about the problems caused by the existence of bots. I am an ordinary user.

Offering a very popular application for a fee may cause the loss of many users. There are always alternatives, I think Elon should remember that.

Well now Elon Musk is consdiering to take Twitter out of the EU because of the investigation in compliance. It has to do with the new rules created in August called the Digital Services Act (DSA).

I think Elon Musk just is upset with EU watching his moves. I do not really think he will remove it from EU. https://www.reuters.com/technology/musk-considers-removing-x-platform-europe-over-eu-law-insider-2023-10-18/

Actually all of the mentioned services can be used for free. Same seems to be with Twitter. $1 fee per year will be charged if you want to post anything yourself. Reading others tweets is free. New user can  spend time reading others, get more familiar with platform and only then make a payment. Seems fair. We all also started using YouTube, Spotify and etc without premium subscription. And nowadays, when everything is much expensive than 5 years ago, $1 is nothing. I think everyone can easily find dollar worth coins on the street during year, or earn that. 

As an EU citizen, this doesn't surprise me at all. Elon is in trouble even in US at the moment. Fighting EU regulators would be too much for him to handle so he is backing down, just like with the fight against Mark.

Luckily i just managed to sell my twitter account, today, before it all comes crumbling down. I almost deleted it for free, but waited as i knew my account was worth money. Least now i got something from it and don't have to be part of that mess anymore, ever. It's like a huge elon sized weight lifted off my shoulders. I am free again. Moving to other social medias. Maybe i'll become fulltime redditor as anyhing is better than twitter.

Elon Musk bought Twitter, changed it to X in name and made many big changes in the company to serve his vision. At the same time, he must keep that social media platform is profitable by keeping advertisers and corporations on the platform.

It will be challenged by many laws, regulations in Europe and other nations and if Elon Musk continues to direct X to be a social media platform for freedom of opinion, the platform will get more legal issues.

I still think that he will not change if X continues to improve in next like 6 months or 1 year but recent news from Europe is not actually good and expected by Elon Musk.

Well this is a article from the Guardian. ‘Let that sink in!’ The 13 tweets that tell the story of Elon Musk’s turbulent first year at Twitter (or X).

It does a good job for explaining how Elon Musk has changed Twitter since he bought it for $44 Billion. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/oct/21/let-that-sink-in-the-13-tweets-that-tell-the-story-of-elon-musks-turbulent-first-year-at-twitter-or-x

Well Elon Musk has said he wants to make Twitter a full scale finance platorm in a year. But now he is saying he wants to make Twitter a Dating app also.

He said this on a video call this week to his employees. https://www.nydailynews.com/2023/10/27/x-twitter-becoming-dating-app/

Well Elon Musk has lost so much money just from when he did buy Twitter last year for $44 Billion. He said to employees yesterday it is now worth only $19 Billion, so it is down 55 percent.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/30/23938969/x-twitter-valuation-19-billion-employee-shares

What I want to know is if you will pay $16 each month for your Twitter. Because Elon Musk has the plans for a ad-free 'Premium+' tier and a $3 'basic' tier.
I do not feel so many will want to pay for Twitter prices like this. When you can have it for free, with ads. https://www.engadget.com/x-introduces-an-ad-free-premium-tier-for-16-a-month-191523132.html

If this is what's actually happening then it's safe to say his a jack of all trades and a master of non...but then again it will be unfair to say because his among the first to get Electric vehicles that are street legal, the first to use satellite internet in our orbits which actually provides fast internet for people towns and remote areas..surely he definitely is a genius unless his just the face of the company and the real brains behind all these innovations remain unknown to the world  ::)

Arguably he was the first user. The others were just dummy accounts and an auto-generated administrator account. There's no way someone would've registered before him, because he's the one who made the forum in the first place.


That account is bullshitting for the sake of manipulating the Bitcoin price. I recommend not paying it any attention.

Yes you are right it is not to be taken very seriously. But we are all curious who is doing those tweets and just because it is a Satoshi Nakamoto 'spotting'. We can hope it will help manipulate Bitcoin price for the higher.

Well Elon Musk did say some things on Twitter that did make some companies upset. Some of the big advertisers are IBM, Apple, Lionsgate, Disney, Paramount, and Comcast.

It all has to do with antisemitic content on Twitter that Elon Musk has allowed to happen. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/11/17/elon-musk-x-companies-pulling-ads-anti-semitism/

And now that there is many advertisers upset at Elon Musk, he got a offer from Andrew Tate. He is a supporter of him and said he would pay Elon Musk $1 Million a month to help fund twitter.
I think Andrew Tate is being nice to Elon Musk since he reinstated his account when he bought twitter. And because Andrew Tate says he makes $20,000 on just 1 payout from twitter.
https://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-tate-pledges-elon-musk-million-month-advertising-on-x-2023-11

Well Elon Musk will now be doing a very good deed. He did say he will donate the advertising money from twitter to the hospitals in Israel and the Red Cross in Gaza.

He was being accused making it ok for saying some antisemitic things on twitter. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12776891/Elon-Musk-donate-X-advertising-revenue-hospitals-Israel-Red-Cross-Gaza.html

That guy is full of surprises, and all the action taken by him was major events like promoting doge, taking over Twitter, and announcing to make Twitter a financial hub All this looks preplanned. There can be short term downsides that we are observing right now but in the long term they can be really massive for the industry. His past record shows he is a successful businessman, and I think he knows what he is doing. It is not like his twitter deal was unintentional and he was forced to buy the company. 

Well after removing them in August Elon Musk says twitter will now start to show the titles with URLs in previews. For me it is better this way when I am searching with twitter on my phone.
I like it better that way. Because I did not like it to have to click on the URL card just so we can know the title.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/22/elon-musk-says-x-will-show-headlines-on-the-platform-again/

Elon Musk is not much different from Steve Jobs, he doesn't have comprehensive knowledge, he has the ability to manage people who are competent in certain fields and use them to develop the company he wants to build. maybe he is really confused in some areas, such as being a dogecoin shilling but there are still many great things he is building. there are many predictions about Elonmusk's future, all the companies he is building are really in the right chain, he will definitely be one of the people who change this world into something great through the companies he founded and leads.

This is one of the boldest steps taken by Twitter (Musk) in a clear challenge to the policies of the countries whose sovereign decisions he is supposed to support. The global debate over the Palestinian issue puts many parties between very difficult choices. Elon Musk is one of the few who refused to abandon the humanitarian character with which he wanted to touch people's emotions in exchange for challenging the authorities who support Zionist options.
I cannot be certain that Musk’s empire will fall because of his support for publishing positions said to be anti-Semitic, but I am certain that this will not pass easily, and I would not be surprised if there are restrictions on the activities of Musk’s companies, and not just the Twitter platform.

Elon Musk was being accused of antisemitism from the big advertisers on twitter.  He did have some things to say to people who did accuse him of antisemitism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_M_uvDChJQ

Now our guy Musk is telling advertisers to F*UCK themselves and never come back to Twitter/X
 Here is one source in case anyone of you is curious:

https://www.politico.eu/article/go-fuck-yourself-elon-musk-x-twitter-hits-out-at-fleeing-advertisers/

To me it seems Elon got triggered by the interviewer when he got asked about advertisers and the renevue Twitter/X is missing out/bledding. I don't know about you guys, but to me Elon is not supposed to try and act cocky and swear in public like that, it does not look professional at all.
I know he is trying to go with his typical attitude of eccentric and all-mighty billionaire, buy in my opinion it would be better if he focused in getting some advertisers in and tried to increase the value of the platform, at this pace it may be just matter of time before a serious competition to Twitter appears.

The whole story looks a little different. He said that he will not fall to blackmail, especially if they blackmail him with money... which is expected from him, who has a lot of money. I think he deserves respect for this, at least from our crypto side, he said NO to the system, to the FIAT system. And if you think it's cocky you need to check why "BIG NAMES" started to back out from advertising on Twitter.

I think that Elon is trying to enter the big league by his own rules, and we will see will he succeeds in that. For now, I enjoy watching him fighting about some "traditionalists".

Refreshing to see someone approach the whole Elon Musk saga with a differentiated point of view.

Just look what our friend fmr. SEC Chair Jay Clayton (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3LQ0JvEeqQ) had to say about Elon Musk. I thought he would be ranting about Elon Musk at least to a certain degree, but he took a very differentiated stance on some of the statements Elon Musk made. I watched the entire interview with Musk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BfMuHDfGJI) and as you correctly said, this is not about arrogance when he said "GFY" (as he repeats a couple of times). He explains that there is no reason for anyone to respect people who want to see you dead. Like literally destroyed. He is also making a lot of respectable points that I could not verify, like complying with a hundred millions of regulations etc., but I think this is why the follow up talk with Jay Clayton brings some value here. He did not contradict Musk and I was a bit impressed because the SEC and Musk have a nice relationship with each other :P

I liked the part when Musk said that his life is about physics and that is mostly what counts, not whether someone likes him or hates him because when you break physics, it breaks you. Opinions can break without collateral damage. He said if he shoots a rocket to the moon, it all is about whether it explodes or not. That's all people will be interested in once they use a rocket. Not whether he is an asshole. And he has got a point there.

Well another very big advertiser is not going to do its advertising there anymore. Walmart is 1 of its biggest advertisers so I think this is going to hurt Elon Musk and twitter.

It is a big company like Apple, Disney, and Warner Bros that all stopped their advertising. https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/walmart-says-it-is-not-advertising-social-platform-x-2023-12-01/

Musk's cheap shots are costing him dearly. including reputationally. After the scandal with his anti-Semitic "heroic" statements, with his "I am not afraid of anyone, I am the great and powerful Musk" face, it turned out that Musk is a very submissive and dependent character. He tiptoed to Israel, immediately changed his rhetoric, his voice from rude and "militant" to a quiet and submissive whisper, and complete agreement with everything he was told in Israel :))

After that he decided to vent his nerves and resentment for such a "compulsion to do good" on the companies that refused to use the slowly but surely degrading platform "X" for their advertising campaigns, throwing a tantrum and cursing them :)

If Musk thinks that Trump and other "sponsors" will support him forever or long, I think he's wrong.

Since the purchase of Twitter by Elon Musk, nothing bad has happened on this network. It seems to me that nothing much has changed, the popularity of the social network has not decreased. So Elon Musk chose the right vector of development.

Didn't he just f$ck the advertisers in the interview on New York Times?
Day after that day, articles came out already are against him calling him crazy and that electric cars are failures lol  

He said he is going to document it all and that the world will know who these advertisers who boycotted Twitter all for him telling the truth. I must say he got the balls. If he won't die in suicide, he might just pack with the others who have balls like Dana White who also did the same when his sponsor want him to delete his post about Trump support.

He doesnt have to be an expert in all those subjects he just needs to bring together those who can and manage the product vs cost well enough to call it a success.   I never thought Tesla should especially do well vs the ease and size of its competition but I forgot or missed the detail of the massive amount of subsidy Tesla gets for being the first to deliver its products.  If he can build on that advantage of being first it means alot, I wouldn't expect it to always be enough and after a couple decades it could still mean Tesla is replaced and is not a brand just a subset of a larger firm etc.  
  The example Im thinking of historically is Packard (https://www.hagerty.com/media/automotive-history/22-miles-separate-these-packard-landmarks/) who preceded Ford in their success but did not maintain that level forever.  Last seen 1958, long time ago but still important historically and probably true as a possibility of Tesla.

  Hiding or not the URL is I agree a bigger deal then all the rest because its a universal problem rather then Elon says something silly etc.

As we see now on twitter that every single person is taking away the blue badge which is not quite better for the users who are not even engaged.

Mostly users looks fake even they have their own accounts. But a user who have only less followers can also claim these badges on twitter.

Which looks so disgusting for me and I can't even mostly trust on the account even some of them are real but it is difficult to make a difference between them. So it should be mostly avoid to look at these badges.

This is somehow surprising to read. Is it that I did not read the news or is it hard to find info? Because right from when he purchased 𝕏, it seems like it’s what he always wanted, and wouldn’t sell it for anything. In fact I believed he wouldn’t sell it because he doesn’t want it in the wrong hands (doesn’t mean his hands are perfect though). Today, he seems happy that he purchased it. He’s made a lot of changes to the app, and it all seems like what he always wanted. So how’s this true?

well some people saying that twitter in the hands of elon musk is falling big time because it was peaking at $66 billion valuation back then now it plummets to as low as $25 bln which slowly raising again right now reaching about $40 billion if im not mistaken, thats why people are labeling that fact as fall of twitter in the hands of elon musk but honestly I guess that elon just want that share of power in media, so basically right now its already serving his purposes.
regardless though I still wonder how twitter fare in term of revenue in the hands of elon musk whether its starting to thrive or is it has been decreasing ever since his acquisition considering the fact that he has made some unique way of increasing revenue this time arounds.

Well, he kind of stormed in when he bought it but I guess he’s now beginning to align things a bit more properly. Some people rumor that he is selling twitter blue to make his money back, but on the contrary, he’s paying people for ads shown on their content and that’s amazing. In the end, I like that it’s him who bought twitter, and not Zuck. I don’t see why he’ll ever want to sell it too, so at least I know Zuck can’t have all the control he wants.

After twitter changed its name to X, indicating that the ownership and TOS changed very drastically, including the user interface, Elon has great characteristics and influence in the business world, and the idea of acquiring twitter was not playing games when he became the talk when his speech also inflated crypto prices. In terms of current development, twitter makes it easy for anyone to become a premium member by paying rent, purely not all current twitter users are not entirely achievement paths, there is indeed a fee for creators in contrast to the old days where everything was free and there was no reciprocity in terms of twitter user contributions. Reputation is not good if it gives an instant option to buy. for me the development of X is quite good and I think elon has gotten more benefits and material until now.

Nothing bad has happened except losing millions of dollars in advertising, devaluing it by more than half, and seeing a large decline in app installs. Advertising is Twitter's only significant source of revenue. Without revenue Musk will be unable to repay the loans, which came with high interest, used to purchase Twitter. As Musk admitted, "the advertiser boycott will kill Twitter (https://fortune.com/2023/11/30/elon-musk-dealbook-summit-interview-advertisers-boycott-tirade/)".

We cant really be able to tell if they are really that in revenue now or still at loss.
If we do tend to look back on how much of that deal;

about $13 billion
Elon Musk, to finance the Twitter deal, secured about $13 billion by bank loans. Elon Musk's Twitter deal was finalised on October 27. World's richest man initially wanted to limit his own investment in the $44 billion deal to little more than $15 billion
Link (https://www.livemint.com/news/world/elon-musk-world-s-richest-took-bank-loans-to-finance-twitter-deal-11666924175727.html#:~:text=Elon%20Musk%2C%20to%20finance%20the,%2413%20billion%20by%20bank%20loans.&text=Elon%20Musk%27s%20Twitter%20deal%20was,little%20more%20than%20%2415%20billion.)

We cant really be able to say about fall of twitter yet even just looking about its relevance and usage.It do looks that it did become even more better.
Adjustments is made of course and it would be taking up some time.

Yes he did lose millions of dollars in advertising. But it is worse then that. By changing the name of twitter he has lost $4 Billion to $20 Billion of brand value. For him changing the name gives him the power but it also was not good for his money.

https://fortune.com/2023/07/24/elon-musk-twitter-x-brand-value/

Although you're right that it's still too early to say if the Fall Of Twitter is truly about to happen, but "Twitter" which is now called "X" currently has more spammers, and many of them pay for promoted ads.

But having said that, the social media still has the largest organic traffic and the least paid traffic compared to Instagram and Facebook.

https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/6yxkcmgjox7.jpeg

Plus Elon Musk's release of xAI, Grok, and PromptIDE which might be integrated in X has a lot of potential.

It's just the usual media wrangling, where everyone, for their own pay or their own perspectives, can spit chewed up crap long and far :)
I gave a completely different example. When for the first time the "great Musk", having blabbed another idiocy, did not ignore the outrage, but obediently came running to apologize and behave like a good boy. I'm surprised he didn't grow a paisa or wear a kippah :)

That's true, maybe they think that social media like X has no restrictions, the world is freer including cryptocurrencies, how easy it is to gain trust with just a premium X account. old users on twiter are very comfortable especially when X gives more free space. i try to open any algorithm and search then the day will appear without interacting with each other. really X is in the hands of paid users, although the content is nothing more than ordinary things or some spam.
Especially the ownership and income from X in my opinion is only a small part for elon, or even just volunteering to buy X and have fun. but I salute elon willing to spend what I think is very large money for his activities. Even the role of X is quite important and more highlighted and even more trusted than other platforms and monitoring crypto. many X features are superior and survive using X.

fair enough argument the fact that twitter might have integration to the platform that elon is creating, we will not find such thing had twitter not changing hands of ownership.
but regardless its gonna be a challenge for elon to take advantage of his own platform in the future and try to pave way for his proposed all in one financial apps and social apps.
it seems elon has tried to get twitter to go back up recovering to its original state after the feud and it doesn't seem likely to succeed then elon just ditch it and go on trying to make an even bigger platform and more capable platform than twitter so that he instead try to go big with the platform this time.
if his idea of creating all in one platform succeed then he will be dominating the financial sectors, but I guess thats not gonna be that easy, he intended to try replacing banks but we know how attached to our lives these banks are.

Ironically the only thing keeping Twitter/X together is the inertia people has on their accounts. Noboby wants to move to another different social media and start again with 0 followers. It does not matter one only has 12 or 1 million followers, the inertia won't allow people to abandon their accounts, specially if they do it to post in other social media with less active users where their usual celebrities and internet starts/official accounts are not present.
If people starts to move massively and the inertia breaks down, it would be the actually beginning of the end for Elon Musk's project of social media.
If I was him, I would try to make advertisers a little bit more comfortable with their brand being around there in Twitter. Honestly, I am not a billionaire not a businesspeople and I can see the writing on the wall.

Well Elon Musk now did just get a Money Transmitter License in the state of South Dakota. That is now 10 US states he has this License. Arizona, Georgia, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and South Dakota.

I think he knew he was going to lose money with his purchase of twitter. But he does want to rival companies like PayPal, Square, and Stripe. I do think it will do crypto payments in the future. It is all a part of the master plan he has to make it a 'everything app'.

https://www.thestreet.com/crypto/innovation/elon-musk-x-twitter-get-money-transmitter-license-in-move-to-crypto

Most nay sayers are glued to the mainstream.  ;D

Sure he needs adverts but there are other sources he most likey taps into them.
Abroad companies, Users and much more.