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Title: Where do we go from here
Post by: FirmWars on March 27, 2023, 12:08:54 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: umbara ardian on March 27, 2023, 12:25:38 PM
Yes, that fear of harm is not wrong at all. Currently, scientists are working on artificial intelligence and developing AI applications for a variety of purposes, from manufacturing automation to medical and financial services. Some are still concerned that artificial intelligence could become a threat to humans in the future. The scientists also studied and presented a number of scenarios about the potential consequences of the development of AI, including issues of cybersecurity, the replacement of jobs by robots. Remember that this change is not a barrier, but we are gradually entering a new era when people control work more effectively.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Gozie51 on March 27, 2023, 12:34:47 PM
there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity,

I think Elon musk is saying this in the way in economic purposes that AI are taking over the jobs and in capacity of human. He probably may be raising concerns about the jobs life like robots or humanoid robots do in place of human beings. These robots have in real time taken most employees out of job due to the growth in technology.

IMO I feel that business minded men like Elon musk and Bill gates should not bother themselves on what they have really enjoyed the advantage of. They prefer AI and humanoid robots in place of human beings to use them to cut cost in their businesses including production cost and why complain on a creation that you have chosen over human beings and the effects of which include unemployment and drop in GDP whose result is poverty.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: livingfree on March 27, 2023, 12:39:38 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
Let's just see if that's going to be a problem in the future. We have to remember that these AI are still programmed by human beings and I think we're just having too much of it based on the sci-fi futuristic movies where AIs became rebels and becomes dangerous to humanity.

If they're made for an upgraded productivity then that should be the focused of it to help us catch up with how our lives become easier. But I guess I do understand the worry of it, because it might literally make our lives easier (dark side).


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on March 27, 2023, 12:49:03 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him.

We do we go from here?

That's correct; his thought was that if AI turns out to be on the dark side, the human race may be at risk.

AI imagine things most times that a human being may not imagine; Elon said "they think far beyond themselves." But I still believe there is no way AI can outright or override human; although they are machines built with some super technology, humans can still destroy what they create afterwards if they become too powerful. I just say what I think, though.

There's a proverb that says, "An okra plant doesn't outgrow the person who plants it; no matter how tall it grows, when the owner wants to harvest it, they still bend the stems down and harvest the okra."

If AI becomes a threat to humanity, the people who built it can destroy it.


That's the video where Elon speaks about the AI threat: https://youtu.be/Qj-iz6MByZg


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Faisal2202 on March 27, 2023, 01:15:20 PM
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A robot threatening Elon musk is almost fictional like really, a robot programmed to do the assigned task can threaten a person (Elon) on its own. That is not digestible. Because these things can improvise over time and there is no doubt about that and can think faster than the human mind as their processing speed is higher than humans. But the robot is a robot.

As big icons of tech industries like Bill Gates have mentioned in there some interviews, now is the era of AI which will change the way of thinking, learning, doing work and jobs, etc. So coming back to your question, life will really change as I am so dependent on AI tools for my courses that whenever I face a problem I ask Ai tools. Some times i think how i lived these years without it.

Yeah, then i realize i am depending on it which is not good for me. Overall, it will change the way we think, learn, act and perform along with harms to our minds. I dont understand if you taking the revolution of AI as dominant over humans like happens in sci-fi movies. "No" Robots will not rule the world (harm us) instead we will allow them to rules us. How? By depending on them so much that we cannot do any work without them.

On other hand AI technologies can maximize the harm rate of pre-existing military weapons but that's another level of discussion we should avoid doin here.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Moneyprism on March 27, 2023, 01:19:53 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?

the development of ai is inevitable, ai will enter human life whether we like it or not,, it will be integrated with our various devices and we must be able to adapt to it .. what needs to be considered here is how we as users can take advantage of this ai to help us solve various problems such as completing simple jobs, etc. the point is we have to be wiser in using this technology


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: mu_enrico on March 27, 2023, 01:22:34 PM
The programmer can just put rules for the AI.
1. Don't hurt humans
2. You can't overwrite rules, etc.

Something like that and the problem is solved. Elon is just smoking some weed before doing the interview.
Also, people should define "smart" before giving a bombastic statement like "AI can be smarter than us." Thus since AI is not that smart, it's not a good idea to delegate control to the AI, or at least, there should a mechanism to do a manual override.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: bluebit25 on March 27, 2023, 02:37:39 PM
I have used it to communicate with AI, and what I am impressed with is the quick and accurate response of some information. However, when going deeper, it is completely inaccurate and becomes fabricated, and the problem is to refer to the information, not treat it as a source of information. And when I got into the details of the ethics of AI, I received a response that left me both skeptical and fearful of the prospect of being dominated by machines. When in the development of AI, we all raise the issue of ethics in use, and I see not only this tool but every tool that helps people we need to uphold the ethical issue in our use.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: benalexis12 on March 27, 2023, 02:51:31 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?

I watched a movie on Netflix I just forgot the title of that show where the story is about an AI robot.
The one who invented the AI robot was eventually killed by the Robot who created him. So what you are saying is that there
is a truth that AI robots do pose a threat to humans. And so is the human in AI.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Beparanf on March 27, 2023, 03:03:32 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?

Elon is now a believer of AI after he became the cofounder of the leading technology Chat GPT. There’s always an advantage and disadvantage on every cutting edge technology like the invention of Atomic bomb that stop the war but open up with a more dangerous was in the future.

The problem is not the AI technology but the greedy human that will use it in evil things. AI technology is very helpful to make our life easier by letting robot do our task so that we can focus on other task. I’m supporting this AI technology it’s use is greater than the potential risk which is currently a fictional.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: rat03gopoh on March 27, 2023, 03:30:12 PM
All the technology you see today was once fiction. And I can say that the first machines issued were considered a threat to the equine transport profession, the presence of telephones was a threat to the carrier pigeon company. Did they stop? No, they're starting to transition.
Like it or not, you won't be able to get out and will unconsciously coexist. It will be a benefit or a disaster depending on which side you welcome any new technology.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: S3300 on March 27, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
It's worrisome but since AI is built by humans it is possible to create some manual shutdown to such technology, oh, I may be wrong, AI are very smart and they can notice this safe shutdown process and find a way to bypass it, I hope this won't happen and those building AI need to be very careful with what they feed AI, too much of information can be used against us.

If someone like Bill and Musk can feel this way about AI who am I to think otherwise?


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Nhazwrath on March 27, 2023, 03:43:47 PM
The programmer can just put rules for the AI.
1. Don't hurt humans
2. You can't overwrite rules, etc.

Something like that and the problem is solved. Elon is just smoking some weed before doing the interview.
Also, people should define "smart" before giving a bombastic statement like "AI can be smarter than us." Thus since AI is not that smart, it's not a good idea to delegate control to the AI, or at least, there should a mechanism to do a manual override.

rule 1 is subjective.   the current AI like the heavily bias chat gpt is going to give you the wrong answers to rule 1. 


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Mozzart on March 27, 2023, 03:48:34 PM
I don't think we're going to face the problems that AI can create any time soon. Right now it's a useful tool that simplifies our work but doesn't completely replace it until the final progress, I think we'll have to wait a long time.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: uneng on March 27, 2023, 03:50:50 PM
If these individuals are concerned about AI and their destruction potential, why are they the main sponsors and enthusiasts of AI technology in the world? I believe they just fear something they can't control, and that is why they try to keep it under their control by developing it. However, as long as AI is controlled by them, it won't be an issue.

Where do we go from here?
We will continue on the same path we have been. Technology gets more advanced, AI becomes more popular and present in our daily life on different sectors of society, their developers get wealthy and influent, nothing really changes regards status for the average citizen.

Although technolgy advances, the structure of society remains the same.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Yatsan on March 27, 2023, 03:51:04 PM
Just a vague assumption I guess. No matter how intelligent technologies become, it is humans who made it and for sure that would be the main thing. Many people are threatened by this possibility without seeing how beneficial it would be. Advancements such as AI are meant to make our lives easier 'coz if not, why would professionals waste their time doing these technological progress. It would only be a bad thing if we would be dependent with these advancements, which is something we should deal with as individuals. I'm seeing a better future because of technologies and innovation. Why? 'coz we have to adapt with 'evolution'. Being left behind would be far worse from being replaced by these 'robots'. There are things these investions won't be able to do and you have to take it as an edge to se for a brighter future.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: xSkylarx on March 27, 2023, 03:54:15 PM
Most people will say that we should stop this, but right now, the status of AI is really progressive and unstoppable. Even Elon said in the interview that he is scared of AI and that the possibility that AI will get rid of us in the future is pretty high when they know everything, which he said is possible in the future but for sure we, the current generation, will not experience this; it will happen in the next few decades. This is really the future, as Elon stated, because, if we look on the bright side, AI will make our lives easy.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: cabron on March 27, 2023, 04:11:50 PM

They say Elon used to be an investor of that ChatGPT and then he suddenly changes his mind and opposed it after learning what it can do.  Quite an interesting story so I wonder how deeply they'd developed the AI that he actually decided to oppose it. If it's something like the Eagle Eye movie in which the AI decides for the future of humanity, then I guess it needs to be stopped.

It's enough already that robots took away the jobs of people. But I would sure depend on who holds the AI industry. Because if they are twisted, sure thing they will also develop twisted bots.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: BenCodie on March 27, 2023, 04:15:11 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?

It's funny how both of the seeming pioneers in this realm (or at least the largest names whose companies are working on AI related products) both say that they are fearful of AI and its potential effect on humanity. If that's the case, then why are we even putting the energy into this creation, or why isn't more effort being put into policies, safeguard, research etc before it goes further? I believe that we should focus on mastering blockchain, something that empowers humans, instead of creating something that has the potential to become a threatening adversary. That's just me though.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: mendace on March 27, 2023, 05:08:33 PM

They say Elon used to be an investor of that ChatGPT and then he suddenly changes his mind and opposed it after learning what it can do.  Quite an interesting story so I wonder how deeply they'd developed the AI that he actually decided to oppose it. If it's something like the Eagle Eye movie in which the AI decides for the future of humanity, then I guess it needs to be stopped.

It's enough already that robots took away the jobs of people. But I would sure depend on who holds the AI industry. Because if they are twisted, sure thing they will also develop twisted bots.

I don't worry much about Elon since he usually seems to make decisions without reason, but thinking about how much harm an AI can do I'm still skeptical or rather it still seems too early to talk about evolution, surely there will be a future much worse than our present and I hope it will happen as late as possible.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: bosede1 on March 27, 2023, 05:56:32 PM
When AI decides that humans are posing threats then there will be a problem, I think they are programmed to act in a certain manner. My own contribution is that if there is the implementation of AI some workers will be laid off.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Jody.Drummer on March 27, 2023, 06:06:03 PM
Most people will say that we should stop this, but right now, the status of AI is really progressive and unstoppable. Even Elon said in the interview that he is scared of AI and that the possibility that AI will get rid of us in the future is pretty high when they know everything, which he said is possible in the future but for sure we, the current generation, will not experience this; it will happen in the next few decades. This is really the future, as Elon stated, because, if we look on the bright side, AI will make our lives easy.
This will always raise pros and cons, it is unavoidable. For those who say AI is dangerous for human survival, you can say yes and you can say no, it depends on ourselves. The development of AI is becoming very rapid and it can be said that it will be smarter than humans, and many say that maybe in the future it will replace the role of humans.
We shouldn't be skeptical about this, instead we ourselves have to make us more qualified. The existence of AI is also driven from us as humans, there is no history of creating being shifted by what is being created. So improve our quality as human beings.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Huppercase on March 27, 2023, 08:14:31 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?

You should better know that Elon musk is not different from politician, he is just lucky to be a business man by view but dip down, Elon empire is surrounded by politician and that is how the behave from the way they say things, they will say what they fear people to do them and will later do the same thing. I could remember when he bought twitter, he was saying it was a free speech social media but was suspending accounts that were trolling him and was mad about things they say to him and later change mind when he saw that people will live the social media for another one, trust him at your own peril.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Bananington on March 27, 2023, 08:21:07 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
There are other technologies and innovations that could harm humans, but it still did not stop these inventors from producing them even for the government. Even with all the warnings that have been issued regarding AI and the potential danger they could pose to our existence, I do not think it will stop this new innovation that is already in use in some places. The warning may slow AI's from taking over as advanced technology, but it will not stop them from becoming mainstream in the future. From movies that we have seen, we already have an idea of how the future will be with AI's and advanced technology and in some cases, not all so beautiful.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: visionE2 on March 27, 2023, 08:35:53 PM
AI technology is very unlikely if he wants to conquer humans and dominate humans (in the context of war). Even though AI is embedded with advanced artificial intelligence, it is still human-made. Humans who can make AI, of course, can also control AI or master AI.
It's just that the AI robot is like a knife.

If used by the wrong hands, it can become a terrible and deadly weapon. However, if held by good and wise people, then it will be beneficial for human life.
It's just that AI may dominate human work. But it has the potential to trigger even worse social problems. Unemployment is rising rapidly and of course it can trigger mass riots. So that currently AI systems and robots are still limited, and companies still need human workers.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Newlifebtc on March 27, 2023, 09:35:07 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
Any business man who will be afraid of using it live for examination so I believe that that is what makes this potential man of Elon smokes to always been afraid of robot so it quite understandable, so I believe that Elon must be afraid anything have not be experimented well before issuing to him


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: fuer44 on March 28, 2023, 01:48:03 AM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
Don't think too far ahead mate, it's just some people's worries. Actually AI could have cooperated with humans. For example, so far the factory industry uses automatic machines in working on the production of goods or packing, while the humans who work only control the machines. That's already called an AI, right? I said maybe this is different because in this era AI is in the form of robots that resemble humans and it looks scary if they can doing something according to their own instincts.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: isaac_clarke22 on March 28, 2023, 05:37:45 AM
It's enough already that robots took away the jobs of people. But I would sure depend on who holds the AI industry. Because if they are twisted, sure thing they will also develop twisted bots.
It is kinda scary ya know. Knowing that humans are moving towards creating something that places them out of their professions due to automation. I have not heard yet of big tech companies laying off employees due to ChatGPT, but I have this gut feeling that some start up companies out there are not into hiring junior devs since AI can somehow do the Junior tasks and they would only need Senior ones.

Basic data entry tasks out there surely gets replaced now by these AIs.



Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: justdimin on March 28, 2023, 06:33:58 AM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
It's funny how both of the seeming pioneers in this realm (or at least the largest names whose companies are working on AI related products) both say that they are fearful of AI and its potential effect on humanity. If that's the case, then why are we even putting the energy into this creation, or why isn't more effort being put into policies, safeguard, research etc before it goes further? I believe that we should focus on mastering blockchain, something that empowers humans, instead of creating something that has the potential to become a threatening adversary. That's just me though.
I would guess that even though it could be risky in the future, it is also amazing what it can do and it is already worked on. Not like we can ban it, there are way too many people who already have the opensource files of it and even if you ban it, some people will do it. Just like how cracking games are banned and yet they still do it and share it for free, people work hard, countless hours, over 100+ hours and crack games, and this is games we are talking about.

Believe me, if AI was banned, some people will still do it. So, it's better to let companies do it and know the people at the top at least. Some bad people will abuse it for sure without a doubt, lets hope it doesn't get out of hand.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: wajik-tempe on March 28, 2023, 07:03:16 AM
Many experts in the field of AI and technology have raised similar concerns about the potential negative impacts of AI on society. but we still don't know about its capabilities and limitations. While it's important to be aware of the potential risks associated with AI, it's also important to focus on the potential benefits it can bring. we should establish appropriate regulations and guidelines to ensure that the technology is used for the benefit of humanity.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: crwth on March 28, 2023, 07:22:14 AM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
Are you sure that that happened? I really would like to know if this is true because it's somewhat unbelievable to me. I'm not sure why it would have some kind AI capability to threaten someone and it might have something to do with movies and fiction stuff. Lol.

I don't think it would reach something like that unless there are posts or something that have direct impact with all the AI around us etc.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on March 28, 2023, 08:04:34 AM
In my opinion, all games with ChatGPT will sooner or later get very bad results. Today we rejoice in new technologies, but nevertheless, robots are increasingly replacing people, displacing them, and thereby depriving people of their earnings. But any machine cannot have a human mind when at one time or another it is necessary to accept a rule that is not programmed into it. Already now there are many errors in the results of the work of AI. To trust the results of the work of the robot, you still need to check its work, and this takes twice as long as what could be done by a person.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: WatChe on March 28, 2023, 08:34:10 AM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?

Every new Technology faced resistance of acceptance in the start. Even Bitcoin was not accepted in its early days and very few took it serious. I don't know what Musk said about AI in back dates, he is co-founder of OpenAI (https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/15/elon-musk-co-founder-of-chatgpt-creator-openai-warns-of-ai-society-risk.html) that rolled out CHAT GPT. These days every tech company is taking AI serious since its a technology that will dominate coming 3 to 5 years of technology. I would say we must start taking AI serious and start developing expertise in it to secure our jobs and interests.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Patrol69 on March 28, 2023, 08:34:23 AM
Every new technology we have introduced ourselves to has its pros and cons. If you only look for the good side of a new or modern technology, you may not find it. When electricity was invented, it was not invented with the idea that electricity would only benefit human life and not harm human life. But many unwanted events are happening constantly through this electricity. Therefore, since no technology is capable of working 100%, if every technology is used correctly, such undesirable events may not occur. And here it is said that if AI can pose a threat to human life then a new system can be added to avoid this risk which will have a means of manual control.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: slapper on March 28, 2023, 10:28:48 AM
It's natural to be a little anxious about AI and robots. You may hold everyone in Hollywood responsible. The reality, though, is that we designed AI to facilitate our own convenience. What gives something value is how we put it to use.

Surely you're familiar with the names Musk and Gates. We shouldn't dismiss their concerns because they have merit. Let's focus on the areas in which AI will promote human well-being, such as its potential to address previously intractable issues, enhance healthcare delivery, and safeguard the natural world.

Why Are We Here? To create AI that is trustworthy, transparent, and loaded with safeguards. In this way, we can safeguard humanity from all potential dangers.

We need to get over our fear of AI and robotics. Let's put them to work for the betterment of humanity. A tool could be both functional and entertaining in the future.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Supreemo on March 28, 2023, 11:56:52 AM
it is just that Elon's behaviour towards technology is inconsistent. at first he says he will support cryptocurrency and will try to integrate crypto and bitcoin into his newly bought company which is Twitter, then after about few months he changed his mind and now focused on AI and is  planning to support AI again. we shouldn't take his antics seriously its because for sure he will change his mind again when the time comes.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: xSkylarx on March 28, 2023, 12:01:10 PM
it is just that Elon's behaviour towards technology is inconsistent. at first he says he will support cryptocurrency and will try to integrate crypto and bitcoin into his newly bought company which is Twitter, then after about few months he changed his mind and now focused on AI and is  planning to support AI again. we shouldn't take his antics seriously its because for sure he will change his mind again when the time comes.

I also noticed that this keeps changing his mind, but let's admit that he is also a smart person, though I am not really a fan of him. The way he talks and the way he predicts the future is always amazing, and that is also his thinking as he will also make a business out of it to make profit. But AI is really progressing fast, so his predictions would really be possible, but before that, AI can make our lives easier.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Wildwest on March 28, 2023, 12:50:11 PM
Currently scientists are developing AI to be able to work like humans and this we have found in developed countries that develop robots to do their work, if scientists create robots that have intelligence like humans then this will be a big threat because with a malicious program they can cost human lives, but this can also help us to complete every job if the robot is designed according to the program to  Human needs, we are already in an advanced era, everything happens beyond our thinking.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: dezoel on March 28, 2023, 03:29:16 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
Why do people make it sound like something will happen that cannot be controlled by humans? It is not a movie where humans create a robot and then it starts getting out of control and destroys every city and kills people, etc. Come on! It's real life and we all should know that things don't work that way. The only threat from AI should be that it might take a lot of places where humans were working previously.

And that is not something that isn't controllable. If humans can create it, they can easily destroy it too. So if they find it becoming too much of a problem, which I don't think it will, they can simply start reducing its usage and solve problems slowly and easily.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: rhodelmabanal on March 28, 2023, 09:24:06 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
New generation and new technology is waving we can have an opinion but we cannot stop it this is all because people are building new technology and continue discovering everyday, this is not harmful if we use or build it properly that's all we can do, i know there is a lot more coming we are in new world with a new gadgets and the use of internet is always expending day by day so we need to expect something new and something more.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: ololajulo on March 28, 2023, 09:49:14 PM
Several countries around the world regulate the production and deployment of artificial intelligence (AI). It is important to note, however, that the nature and severity of these regulations vary greatly depending on the country and the specific aspects of AI being regulated. It
It is common for technologies to transcend national boundaries. As a result, we must consider the global impact of AI and the need for international cooperation to regulate its development, as the market is changing so quickly and advisors have such a significant influence on their decisions.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Rengga Jati on March 28, 2023, 09:57:34 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
AI is something incredible, moreover, with more advanced AI that is developed, that will be more than we think. Those who are working ith AI directly may know what will happen exactly if AI is always developed and can be developing themselves, what kind of replacement will be in this world, replacing most jobs with humans to do something?
Of course, every new technology will have its pros and cons. AI of course will have many advantages, being so advanced with the technology, easing to do and finish many things more efficiently and effective, and can do something new much faster than what humans can do.
Even though this has big advantages, there will be always some cons to it. This may affect many things, especially humans itself. Imagine if many things have been done by AI, so it will also decrease the use of humans in working or doing something. And probably there are many more disadvantages.
So, this may how they including Elon Musk have warned us about AI, but still creating and developing. To warn us about the possibilities. 


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Unbunplease on March 28, 2023, 10:29:29 PM

AI is something incredible, moreover, with more advanced AI that is developed, that will be more than we think. Those who are working ith AI directly may know what will happen exactly if AI is always developed and can be developing themselves, what kind of replacement will be in this world, replacing most jobs with humans to do something?
Of course, every new technology will have its pros and cons. AI of course will have many advantages, being so advanced with the technology, easing to do and finish many things more efficiently and effective, and can do something new much faster than what humans can do.
Even though this has big advantages, there will be always some cons to it. This may affect many things, especially humans itself. Imagine if many things have been done by AI, so it will also decrease the use of humans in working or doing something. And probably there are many more disadvantages.
So, this may how they including Elon Musk have warned us about AI, but still creating and developing. To warn us about the possibilities. 

Artificial Intelligence leads to a reduced need for manpower - fewer managers, support staff, bank clerks, workers, and so on are needed. There are more and more people, and fewer and fewer jobs. This is the paradox of the times. It is frightening to imagine what will happen in ten years' time with the rapid development of artificial intelligence.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Supreemo on March 29, 2023, 02:03:13 AM
it is just that Elon's behaviour towards technology is inconsistent. at first he says he will support cryptocurrency and will try to integrate crypto and bitcoin into his newly bought company which is Twitter, then after about few months he changed his mind and now focused on AI and is  planning to support AI again. we shouldn't take his antics seriously its because for sure he will change his mind again when the time comes.

I also noticed that this keeps changing his mind, but let's admit that he is also a smart person, though I am not really a fan of him. The way he talks and the way he predicts the future is always amazing, and that is also his thinking as he will also make a business out of it to make profit. But AI is really progressing fast, so his predictions would really be possible, but before that, AI can make our lives easier.
it is undeniable that Elon is really smart, he have also predicted before that AI is more dangerous than any nuclear weapons. nobody took him seriously because all they've been thinking is about the benefits they can get once the AI got out.

he is a visionary person who knows what's better to be considered for the future, but regarding him as an owner of big business? i guess he doesn't have the power to handle those since he always changes his mind and ends up harming those who are working around him. i heard the other day that his social media platform dropped from $40B to $20B? is that true? I haven't been watching news lately only heard that from a friend of mind.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: karmamiu on March 29, 2023, 03:19:41 AM

AI is something incredible, moreover, with more advanced AI that is developed, that will be more than we think. Those who are working ith AI directly may know what will happen exactly if AI is always developed and can be developing themselves, what kind of replacement will be in this world, replacing most jobs with humans to do something?
Of course, every new technology will have its pros and cons. AI of course will have many advantages, being so advanced with the technology, easing to do and finish many things more efficiently and effective, and can do something new much faster than what humans can do.
Even though this has big advantages, there will be always some cons to it. This may affect many things, especially humans itself. Imagine if many things have been done by AI, so it will also decrease the use of humans in working or doing something. And probably there are many more disadvantages.
So, this may how they including Elon Musk have warned us about AI, but still creating and developing. To warn us about the possibilities. 

Artificial Intelligence leads to a reduced need for manpower - fewer managers, support staff, bank clerks, workers, and so on are needed. There are more and more people, and fewer and fewer jobs. This is the paradox of the times. It is frightening to imagine what will happen in ten years' time with the rapid development of artificial intelligence.
I don't think it'll affect hugely in the economy, just like how they disliked the idea of computer before, now most of the jobs are related to computer and those heavy labor jobs still remained. For sure after AI is implemented, it will open another opportunity for people to find new ways to utilize AI as a job.

The only thing that's worrisome is the weaponization of AI, and for sure superior nations are already planning to do this, just like how nuclear weapons are made.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Smack That Ace on March 29, 2023, 04:14:36 AM

AI is something incredible, moreover, with more advanced AI that is developed, that will be more than we think. Those who are working ith AI directly may know what will happen exactly if AI is always developed and can be developing themselves, what kind of replacement will be in this world, replacing most jobs with humans to do something?
Of course, every new technology will have its pros and cons. AI of course will have many advantages, being so advanced with the technology, easing to do and finish many things more efficiently and effective, and can do something new much faster than what humans can do.
Even though this has big advantages, there will be always some cons to it. This may affect many things, especially humans itself. Imagine if many things have been done by AI, so it will also decrease the use of humans in working or doing something. And probably there are many more disadvantages.
So, this may how they including Elon Musk have warned us about AI, but still creating and developing. To warn us about the possibilities. 

Artificial Intelligence leads to a reduced need for manpower - fewer managers, support staff, bank clerks, workers, and so on are needed. There are more and more people, and fewer and fewer jobs. This is the paradox of the times. It is frightening to imagine what will happen in ten years' time with the rapid development of artificial intelligence.

Why not think in a more positive way, artificial intelligence or robots will support us in our work and help us work more efficiently. For example, for workers, robots can replace them doing heavy and dangerous jobs to reduce labor accidents and limit human losses. Technology develops, and people want not to be threatened, what needs to be done is to improve knowledge and skills, not just stand still. Even without technology, with the increasing population density, you will be fired if you don't improve your skills yourself. Life is getting tougher day by day.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: fauzan Ichsan on March 29, 2023, 05:16:44 AM

AI is something incredible, moreover, with more advanced AI that is developed, that will be more than we think. Those who are working ith AI directly may know what will happen exactly if AI is always developed and can be developing themselves, what kind of replacement will be in this world, replacing most jobs with humans to do something?
Of course, every new technology will have its pros and cons. AI of course will have many advantages, being so advanced with the technology, easing to do and finish many things more efficiently and effective, and can do something new much faster than what humans can do.
Even though this has big advantages, there will be always some cons to it. This may affect many things, especially humans itself. Imagine if many things have been done by AI, so it will also decrease the use of humans in working or doing something. And probably there are many more disadvantages.
So, this may how they including Elon Musk have warned us about AI, but still creating and developing. To warn us about the possibilities. 

Artificial Intelligence leads to a reduced need for manpower - fewer managers, support staff, bank clerks, workers, and so on are needed. There are more and more people, and fewer and fewer jobs. This is the paradox of the times. It is frightening to imagine what will happen in ten years' time with the rapid development of artificial intelligence.

Why not think in a more positive way, artificial intelligence or robots will support us in our work and help us work more efficiently. For example, for workers, robots can replace them doing heavy and dangerous jobs to reduce labor accidents and limit human losses. Technology develops, and people want not to be threatened, what needs to be done is to improve knowledge and skills, not just stand still. Even without technology, with the increasing population density, you will be fired if you don't improve your skills yourself. Life is getting tougher day by day.
actually human nature that needs each other makes us not have to worry about facing the progress of the times. as well as AI which can replace human labor so it is feared that there will be many unemployed people. but humans already have socialist traits, so there will always be a way to survive, the more people there are, the more needs that can be used as opportunities to earn money, especially supported by digital technology


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Ahli38 on March 29, 2023, 05:57:13 AM
Maybe I personally haven't come to the perception that AI will endanger the safety of humanity. maybe in sci-fi movies we often see how robots with artificial intelligence try to rule the world. but I think the current development of AI technology is still far from getting there. but I found a real threat that is currently entering the world of education due to the presence of AI.

now students can even easily order AI to do their final thesis assignment to graduate and get a bachelor's degree. I even saw videos of lecturers testing artificial intelligence that they asked to make a thesis assignment as a student's final project to become a bachelor's degree at a university. and the lecturers were quite amazed because AI was able to make it in a rough outline. and the lecturers are trying to find out the differences with those made by real students. and it seems a little difficult to distinguish. but slight differences seem to appear in texts that contain personal opinions in addressing a problem. AI tends to focus too much on the resources they attach to or seem too monotonous. It's just like opinion in general. but there is definitely a rigidity in the words that are strung together. and see this.

lecturers are starting to worry that students will rely more on AI in completing assignments that they should be doing on their own. if it's only limited to looking for references then it's not a problem. but the problem is that most of them involve too much AI. and maybe my worry is in the future when AI technology is more enhanced which is misused by students in lectures.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: FireDAOJackie_Z on March 29, 2023, 06:42:58 AM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
Let's just see if that's going to be a problem in the future. We have to remember that these AI are still programmed by human beings and I think we're just having too much of it based on the sci-fi futuristic movies where AIs became rebels and becomes dangerous to humanity.

What if the sci-fi movies like The Terminator is true in the future ? AI are still programmed by humans but may still function if the program does not work. I personally don't think this speculation is fictional. Look at the automated assembly line nowadays, who would think this could come into reality over a hundred years ago ?

If they're made for an upgraded productivity then that should be the focused of it to help us catch up with how our lives become easier. But I guess I do understand the worry of it, because it might literally make our lives easier (dark side).

My concern is not about upgraded productivity but the use of any advanced technology in the wrong hands. Too many people argue that machines or AI are making our life easier but truth is, how much difficult were we ? Back to the days where I lived, we did not have cars, so what ? We felt much happier at that time than now. Any intention of invention is generally good but the consequences are always bad if they are falling in the hands of evil.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: kaseygriffin on March 29, 2023, 07:28:25 AM
Both Elon Musk and Bill Gates are visionaries and have extensive knowledge of technology. Their concerns are not unfounded. However, we also need to realize that AI can bring many benefits to people, from improving the quality of life to helping people with complex tasks. We can limit the risks associated with AI by ensuring that AI systems are properly and securely designed and developed. We also need to put in place regulations and laws to ensure that AI systems are used properly and for the benefit of humans.
And above all, prepare yourself with the necessary skills to adapt to that change in the future, do not be too afraid to think that it will take away our existing lives. I see that this change will bring many benefits to work as well as a completely different way of operating society, perhaps a new era of technological development will explode again in the future.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Getmon on March 29, 2023, 09:31:38 AM
Think about the future if AI decides and is objective and emotion free, as opposed to greedy, corrupt, and emotional humans. But it will be regulated soon just like crypto currencies. AI can be dangerous to humans when anyone is allowed to develop its own versions. However, incompetent humans will lose their jobs as robots soon appear to perform certain tasks. AI and robotics will soon be added to the military. AI and robotics will soon be added to the military too.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: woez on March 29, 2023, 09:47:15 AM
I think the concerns raised by technology leaders like Elon Musk and Bill Gates about the potential harms of AI are valid and should not be ignored. However, it's important to note that not all AI is created equal, and I believe there are ways to reduce the risks associated with advanced AI systems.

The responsible development and regulation of AI technologies, with a focus on ethical considerations and human safety will be achieved through collaboration between technology companies, governments and field experts, and public awareness and education of the potential risks of continuing to benefit humanity in ways that safe and sustainable.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Betwrong on March 29, 2023, 10:14:28 AM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?

I think we are witnessing technological progress of such magnitude that it can be compared to the invention of the telephone, television, PC, GPS, Internet ... these kind of things. Only today it's happening much faster than previously. What was taking years in the past takes weeks now. Learning new stuff was never as important as today. Modern pundits tell us that over 50% of jobs will be impacted, and I believe them. I suggest to not be afraid of the new technologies, but study them as thoroughly as possible in order to not end up among those who was affected in a bad way, but among those who benefited from this revolution.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Arenga pinnata on March 29, 2023, 10:50:02 AM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
better not be too afraid to respond to something like this. Indeed, robots with artificial intelligence are indeed sophisticated and unique, but if I have to go back to destroying humans, in my opinion, it is rather impossible. the robot itself is man-made, so the sure step is that the robot creator must apply a system to the robot, so that the robot does not lose control or attack humans.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Crypt0Gore on March 29, 2023, 12:02:38 PM
AI is very useful, but creators and builders need to be careful with AI technologies, they should limit how they enhance AI because if the AI gets way too smart things can easily get out of hand, AI has a huge purpose but it's not needed in every aspect of human's life, we have different type of AI so we just need to figure out how humans will be safe in good hands using AI technologies.

Elon Musk and Microsoft's boss saw something dangerous, it is a warning that we humans don't need to go too far with AI and too deep, like Building a human like a robot that's too smart or almost human, this will endanger the human race.

I don't know how true this story is, in China, an AI robot went berserk and killed a few laboratory workers, the government tried to bury the chaos and someone still manage to leak it but it does not take too long before the leaker was apprehended. 

Everything that could benefit the human race has its disadvantages, there is no point in enhancing AI robots, even a PC can malfunction at any time, and there are viruses and malware that could make a PC behaves abnormally, same thing can happen to any smart technology.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: DevilSlayer on March 29, 2023, 01:04:25 PM
A lot of big investors nowadays are looking and telling that A.I. is the future, I'm talking about the whales or considered as billionaires. Right now, the industry of A.I. is in very stiff competition because a lot of entrepreneurs, investors and businessman are having a hot eyes toward this niche. The technology behind the A.I. is so advanced that it can replace a lot of jobs and profession nowadays. Actually a lot of manufacturers are now prefer to use A.I. technology than manpower because they can minimize the expense, increase the productivity and maintain the quality of the products that they produce.

But A.I. doesn't just give advantages and benefits to our society, there are also disadvantages of the A.I. technology. One of these disadvantages is that the A.I. makes the jobs scarce and it makes the unemployment rate goes higher. Like what I said, businesses are now prefering to invest on A.I than to hire people for them to cut their costs. Another disadvantages of AI is that they can malfunction in anytime and it can also harm humans like us.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: jossiel on March 29, 2023, 01:05:58 PM
There was this robot that has said that she will annihilate the humanity. That was a robot human and I've forgot the name of that robot.

Well, it's quite scary to hear a robot say that but I guess the developers and programmers did it on a purpose. Even if AI is too powerful, still, they all have the control and say on it.

Maybe 10 years from now, we'll see more human <-> AI <-> Robot interaction at most times.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: posi on March 29, 2023, 01:57:33 PM
Both Elon Musk and Bill Gates are visionaries and have extensive knowledge of technology. Their concerns are not unfounded. However, we also need to realize that AI can bring many benefits to people, from improving the quality of life to helping people with complex tasks. We can limit the risks associated with AI by ensuring that AI systems are properly and securely designed and developed. We also need to put in place regulations and laws to ensure that AI systems are used properly and for the benefit of humans.
And above all, prepare yourself with the necessary skills to adapt to that change in the future, do not be too afraid to think that it will take away our existing lives. I see that this change will bring many benefits to work as well as a completely different way of operating society, perhaps a new era of technological development will explode again in the future.

Developed technology, AI, or robots… All were created to serve people and bring convenience to people. But not everyone uses them for good, but there will be many people who use them for bad purposes, so, understandably, there will be worries as technology develops. It's like the earth is warming up, and I used to think that one day we would live as miserable as in the sci-fi movies, but that's not going to happen any time soon in our generation.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Ryu_Ar1 on March 29, 2023, 01:59:00 PM
With the existence of AI, indirectly for now a lot has been created, such as from several services at this time and even recently I saw some news where China currently claims to have provided 24/7 news coverage and the News Anchor is AI. who was named Ren Xiaorong.

https://i.gyazo.com/8216cd4430b6b16fde49974dfa0b20b8.png
Source : https://www.businessinsider.com/china-ai-anchor-teach-propaganda-questions-answers-2023-3#:~:text=China%20has%20unveiled%20its%20latest,by%20state%20media %20People's%20Daily. (https://www.businessinsider.com/china-ai-anchor-teach-propaganda-questions-answers-2023-3#:~:text=China%20has%20unveiled%20its%20latest,by%20state%20media %20People's%20Daily.)

From this alone, we have seen a condition where it is possible that more and more News Anchors will be replaced by AI and the job will obviously become more difficult.
This could be one of the reasons why AI is said to be quite dangerous. But on the other hand, this can also be a technological breakthrough, of course, and believe it or not, if we don't upgrade ourselves to a better direction and don't really care about current technological advances, it's not impossible that we will also be left behind and excluded.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on March 29, 2023, 02:16:57 PM
something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?

You need to get one thing straight here, who are the brains behind AI, aren't we the humanbeings? We sat down to construct or develop something that we have programmed to follow dome particular set of instructions under alligbed protocols, yet we say that it may go beyond the control of man, they may only use it as against each other but never can AI go beyond the reasoning of human capacity no matter how, which means we can adjust and readjus the program on them, all to work on the best of our interest.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: alexkut987 on March 29, 2023, 02:21:52 PM
The concerns expressed by Elon Musk and Bill Gates about the potential dangers of artificial intelligence are not unfounded. While AI has the potential to bring about many positive changes, there is also a risk that it could be used to cause harm or that it could become uncontrollable.

One of the main concerns is that as AI becomes more advanced, it may be able to make decisions that are harmful to humans, either intentionally or unintentionally. For example, an AI system designed to optimize profits for a company might decide that the most efficient way to do so is by cutting corners on safety, even if it puts human lives at risk.

To address these concerns, it's important that developers of AI systems prioritize safety and ethical considerations in the design process. This includes ensuring that AI systems are transparent, accountable, and subject to oversight, as well as building in fail-safes to prevent unintended consequences.

Additionally, it's important for society as a whole to have a discussion about the ethical and social implications of AI, and to develop policies and regulations to ensure that its development and deployment are aligned with our values and goals. Ultimately, the key is to strike a balance between harnessing the potential benefits of AI while minimizing the risks to human well-being.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 29, 2023, 03:24:53 PM
Developed technology, AI, or robots… All were created to serve people and bring convenience to people. But not everyone uses them for good, but there will be many people who use them for bad purposes, so, understandably, there will be worries as technology develops. It's like the earth is warming up, and I used to think that one day we would live as miserable as in the sci-fi movies, but that's not going to happen any time soon in our generation.
Technology is actually like a double-edged sword. It can be used for good or evil, depending on the wearer. If used properly, technology will be good and vice versa.

It could be that later in the future, when the place we live is full, there will be an extraordinary incident that can destroy many people and make the world look like it will end. But we also don't know if it happened because it's just a fictional story we've watched.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: jaberwock on March 29, 2023, 05:01:39 PM
Developed technology, AI, or robots… All were created to serve people and bring convenience to people. But not everyone uses them for good, but there will be many people who use them for bad purposes, so, understandably, there will be worries as technology develops. It's like the earth is warming up, and I used to think that one day we would live as miserable as in the sci-fi movies, but that's not going to happen any time soon in our generation.
Technology is actually like a double-edged sword. It can be used for good or evil, depending on the wearer. If used properly, technology will be good and vice versa.

It could be that later in the future, when the place we live is full, there will be an extraordinary incident that can destroy many people and make the world look like it will end. But we also don't know if it happened because it's just a fictional story we've watched.
That's the point of discussion as well. I mean when gun was invented, did anyone said "only good people will use guns"? No, both good and bad did, well I am of belief that only bad people use it, and any reason to use it is a bad reason to use it.

However, at the end of the day tech is like that as well, we have internet, and there are hackers who could steal from you as well, but there are a lot of good people or good use of it too. This doesn't mean that we should be avoiding using it, we should be focusing on how we could help the good side instead. If you become part of it and help it grow then it would be a lot better for the world, because everyone needs more good people working on it.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: slapper on March 29, 2023, 06:10:38 PM
AI is very useful, but creators and builders need to be careful with AI technologies, they should limit how they enhance AI because if the AI gets way too smart things can easily get out of hand, AI has a huge purpose but it's not needed in every aspect of human's life, we have different type of AI so we just need to figure out how humans will be safe in good hands using AI technologies.

Elon Musk and Microsoft's boss saw something dangerous, it is a warning that we humans don't need to go too far with AI and too deep, like Building a human like a robot that's too smart or almost human, this will endanger the human race.

I don't know how true this story is, in China, an AI robot went berserk and killed a few laboratory workers, the government tried to bury the chaos and someone still manage to leak it but it does not take too long before the leaker was apprehended.  

Everything that could benefit the human race has its disadvantages, there is no point in enhancing AI robots, even a PC can malfunction at any time, and there are viruses and malware that could make a PC behaves abnormally, same thing can happen to any smart technology.
People, AI technology is a genie in a bottle. It may conquer the globe instead of fulfilling desires. While improving AI, we shouldn't forget that power comes with responsibility. Spider-Man's catchphrase? Power brings responsibility. We must prevent AI from being misused.

That crazy Chinese AI robot? Sounds sci-fi. You know what? Strange things happen. The bot may have been upset or sick of humans. Who knows? We also need to build and use AI tech responsibly. Growth shouldn't blind us to AI's risks.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: bastian466 on March 29, 2023, 09:49:28 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
Experts certainly better understand what threats will be received with the existence of Artificial Intelligence (AI) technology.  behind these benefits there is a real threat that we can see together as soon as possible, try to imagine if all industries including manufacturing use AI services because it can replace the human role, there will be a lot of reductions in employees and in the future there will be a reduction in jobs and it will definitely happen


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: posi on March 30, 2023, 12:41:10 PM
Developed technology, AI, or robots… All were created to serve people and bring convenience to people. But not everyone uses them for good, but there will be many people who use them for bad purposes, so, understandably, there will be worries as technology develops. It's like the earth is warming up, and I used to think that one day we would live as miserable as in the sci-fi movies, but that's not going to happen any time soon in our generation.
Technology is actually like a double-edged sword. It can be used for good or evil, depending on the wearer. If used properly, technology will be good and vice versa.

It could be that later in the future, when the place we live is full, there will be an extraordinary incident that can destroy many people and make the world look like it will end. But we also don't know if it happened because it's just a fictional story we've watched.
That's the point of discussion as well. I mean when gun was invented, did anyone said "only good people will use guns"? No, both good and bad did, well I am of belief that only bad people use it, and any reason to use it is a bad reason to use it.

However, at the end of the day tech is like that as well, we have internet, and there are hackers who could steal from you as well, but there are a lot of good people or good use of it too. This doesn't mean that we should be avoiding using it, we should be focusing on how we could help the good side instead. If you become part of it and help it grow then it would be a lot better for the world, because everyone needs more good people working on it.

Guns are not necessarily bad because guns are not the only lethal tool in this world, many murderers can kill with a pen or a book. To me, good or bad is due to human behavior, we can't blame technology or anything. All of them are used and controlled by humans, so it is impossible to say whether it is good or bad. Our world wouldn't be a better place without technology, it would only be really nice without the villains. But that will never happen, as a society, there are always bad and good people.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: jaberwock on March 31, 2023, 10:05:30 AM
Guns are not necessarily bad because guns are not the only lethal tool in this world, many murderers can kill with a pen or a book. To me, good or bad is due to human behavior, we can't blame technology or anything. All of them are used and controlled by humans, so it is impossible to say whether it is good or bad. Our world wouldn't be a better place without technology, it would only be really nice without the villains. But that will never happen, as a society, there are always bad and good people.
I am not really in favor of this that much. I feel like if guns never existed, then the amount of murders would drop a lot, and that is good enough for me. Doesn't mean there wouldn't be any murders at all, there would still be murders, pen or book sounds a bit silly to be fair, I would guess a knife would be the alternative of the gun not a pen lol, but yeah there would still be murder yet there would be a lot less.

I do not mean guns as just on police or anything, I mean zero guns anywhere in the world, no guns at all, no soldiers, no police officers, none of that should have a gun, totally gone, then we will have much less murders without a doubt. Just because there would be some, doesn't mean there would be as many.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Betwrong on April 04, 2023, 02:05:23 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
Experts certainly better understand what threats will be received with the existence of Artificial Intelligence (AI) technology.  behind these benefits there is a real threat that we can see together as soon as possible, try to imagine if all industries including manufacturing use AI services because it can replace the human role, there will be a lot of reductions in employees and in the future there will be a reduction in jobs and it will definitely happen

AI will never replace humans completely. Artificial intelligence operator will be a highly sought-after job in the future. No one will leave the fate of humanity in the hands of AI. Why? Because they, AIs, they don't care, and it's easier to reprogram an AI to do some harm than a human being.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: soramon on April 04, 2023, 03:17:47 PM
Nah i think that will never happen it just some terminator thing. AI is just a tool that help us to solve problem it will never threat us human. The only threat is human it self, we dont know how people use technology in a good way or bad way.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: gaston castano on April 04, 2023, 03:59:28 PM
if that were the case then elon musk and whoever was trying to build a robot wouldn't be doing it.
but if indeed the presence of robots and AI can facilitate human work why not?
or the world will end like a movie ? i dont think so.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Fortify on April 04, 2023, 08:45:25 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?

There are definitely threats from artificial intelligence - films like the Matrix and Terminator are able to show us the extremes of what could potentially happen. Funnily enough humans are terrible at correctly calculating risks and we as a species often walk blindly into self made traps that we should be able to avoid. Just look at climate change, we can see the harm that things like polluting microplastics in the ocean and endless burning of fossil fuels are doing to the planet, but we still keep going hoping that our generation makes it through without passing on irreversible harms. Bill Gates biggest fear if I recall is a pandemic, which actually materialized and could be the start of more deadly and highly contagious viruses in future - it's hard to tell where the biggest threats lie.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: ifarted on April 04, 2023, 09:07:42 PM
It might happen if someone or a group of people are able to create a robot with good AI like in terminator movie. As of now, I don't see why an AI is threat to us when the AI is only used in what it is assigned to do like printing, spraying painting that is indeed a threat in different way which could take over some job but there are some things that AI can't do. In my opinion, creating a robot with AI that is like a human mind could be a threat in my opinion.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: TimeTeller on April 04, 2023, 09:11:01 PM
It might happen if someone or a group of people are able to create a robot with good AI like in terminator movie. As of now, I don't see why an AI is threat to us when the AI is only used in what it is assigned to do like printing, spraying painting that is indeed a threat in different way which could take over some job but there are some things that AI can't do. In my opinion, creating a robot with AI that is like a human mind could be a threat in my opinion.

Since humans invented the AI, humans will also find a way how to stop it if there's a need to destroy this invention.
But if people will only deploy it to good intentions, then, there's no reason for us to be scared or afraid what it might do.
I can understand some people are thinking about the possibility of happening of scenarios like in the Terminator movie.
But I have high regards to humanity that we can always find a solution how to stop certain things if we got to such point of chaos.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: pantek talacuik on April 04, 2023, 11:06:50 PM
if that were the case then elon musk and whoever was trying to build a robot wouldn't be doing it.
but if indeed the presence of robots and AI can facilitate human work why not?
or the world will end like a movie ? i dont think so.

These are the steps that you will feel later in a world with continuous developments and everything will be done by robots and indeed we are the ones who control it. but one day the more sophisticated the technology may be the Terminator mass data like the one in the film.  ;)


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: cryptoknightt on April 05, 2023, 02:21:15 AM
now I want to ask who created the AI?
I think everyone is very helped by the existence of AI, maybe for those people who are too rich may feel uncomfortable with the presence of AI. but so far we don't know what the purpose of AI is other than to make it easier for us, is there a hidden meaning to it all?


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: MiF on April 05, 2023, 10:43:59 AM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
We are in the world of new technology and the new invention is always on the plan from the different developer it is really a threat but we will surely see this things in the future, we cannot stop it, this is a new generation with the worlds that full of new discovery and we are about to see different types of robotics invention i believe that it is a threats but we still need to try it and if there was a mistake then stop it for good.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: naikturun on April 05, 2023, 03:17:22 PM
will it happen like that? or whether their estimates were correct.
if that's the case then there won't be any more AI developments in the future if indeed their prediction will come true.
considering it's the same as what happened in the movie it would be terrible if it happened


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: ichsan ardi on April 05, 2023, 06:41:27 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?

I agree with Elon Musk's statement that AI is harmful to humans, but with access to AI, we search the internet and make it easier, it can work for us, AI makes it easier for us to get work done, you could say AI is our assistant. the future is getting more sophisticated, AI too so it could be AI that will replace all human work. For example, in my country, bank ATMs don't need to come to the office, you can go online in just 10 minutes, our ATM account can already be used. the positive and negative sides of AI for humans


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: virasisog on April 05, 2023, 10:10:45 PM
No matter how we fear AIs, it will still exist because of the innovation of technology. Nowadays, people prefer fast and easier task which could be done by the help of AIs so we can't avoid their development and their contribution to society. It's just frustrating that they could possibly replace humans in the future but not matter what we do, big companies are now switching to it. It could save finances for huge businesses and can decrease manpower.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Unbunplease on April 05, 2023, 11:23:53 PM
No matter how we fear AIs, it will still exist because of the innovation of technology. Nowadays, people prefer fast and easier task which could be done by the help of AIs so we can't avoid their development and their contribution to society. It's just frustrating that they could possibly replace humans in the future but not matter what we do, big companies are now switching to it. It could save finances for huge businesses and can decrease manpower.

Absolutely realistic way of looking at things. Soon there won't be as much of a labor force as there is now. The total world population is growing and the need for a workforce is shrinking. That is why a number of states are now developing policies to reduce the birth rate and balance the proportion of the older generation with the younger. However, it is unlikely that the problem of shrinking jobs due to the rapid development of artificial intelligence will be solved quickly


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Wexnident on April 06, 2023, 02:42:54 AM
It's a natural matter when it comes to development imo. I mean, there's probably a lot of stuff that was discovered/invented that had good intentions, but was used for something wrong or could have potentially negative consequences. Then again with the advent of globalization, rules and laws that would surround new developments can be developed much faster compared to back then, so I don't think their fears are unfounded, and it also doesn't help how seemingly fast AI has developed these past few months (or years), but I reckon it would be remedied sooner or later.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: adzino on April 06, 2023, 03:08:26 AM
The concerns are legitimate I would say. Those mocking Elon for his statements are very likely Elon haters. They will hate and trash talk about Elon every time he does something. Its not like I am a huge supporter of Elon, but the way every now and then you hear about Elon on the new media ever since Musk decided to takeover twitter, it makes me think how all the media is controlled and biased.
It is true that AI can be a problem in the future if the development of AI isn't done responsibly and keeping ethical considerations in mind. But that doesn't mean we will stop developing AI technology. It is helping us to advance massively faster than before. It is just that we have to make sure it is regulated and used only for good causes (which I doubt will happen).


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Minor Miner on April 06, 2023, 03:37:40 AM
The concerns are legitimate I would say. Those mocking Elon for his statements are very likely Elon haters. They will hate and trash talk about Elon every time he does something. Its not like I am a huge supporter of Elon, but the way every now and then you hear about Elon on the new media ever since Musk decided to takeover twitter, it makes me think how all the media is controlled and biased.
It is true that AI can be a problem in the future if the development of AI isn't done responsibly and keeping ethical considerations in mind. But that doesn't mean we will stop developing AI technology. It is helping us to advance massively faster than before. It is just that we have to make sure it is regulated and used only for good causes (which I doubt will happen).

Almost all technologies and inventions are aimed at helping people become more convenient and lead a more comfortable life. But not everyone is a good person, many people with evil intentions always want to control the world, always want to dominate the world, so they have used technology for evil purposes.

Personally, I think AI is very good because it helps us a lot in our work, but there is nothing wrong with worrying if bad guys misuse it. About people being afraid of losing their jobs when Robots or AI develop, this is partly true, but we can also compete with them by improving our skills and qualifications, we need to evolve to adapt if we want to survive. That is the law of life.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: xSkylarx on April 06, 2023, 04:12:12 AM
No matter how we fear AIs, it will still exist because of the innovation of technology. Nowadays, people prefer fast and easier task which could be done by the help of AIs so we can't avoid their development and their contribution to society. It's just frustrating that they could possibly replace humans in the future but not matter what we do, big companies are now switching to it. It could save finances for huge businesses and can decrease manpower.

What matters most for the people is the good benefit from AI. Imagine how powerful AI is right now. It can help you with your work or daily tasks and improve our searching, which is why people are happy with it. Now they are only thinking of the good sides and not the bad sides, like the possibility of getting fired from work because the AI can do the work, etc. Though you are right, we can't prevent it as it is part of technology. Let's just adapt to it since we have nothing to do.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Oasisman on April 06, 2023, 04:28:46 AM
No matter how we fear AIs, it will still exist because of the innovation of technology. Nowadays, people prefer fast and easier task which could be done by the help of AIs so we can't avoid their development and their contribution to society. It's just frustrating that they could possibly replace humans in the future but not matter what we do, big companies are now switching to it. It could save finances for huge businesses and can decrease manpower.

What matters most for the people is the good benefit from AI. Imagine how powerful AI is right now. It can help you with your work or daily tasks and improve our searching, which is why people are happy with it. Now they are only thinking of the good sides and not the bad sides, like the possibility of getting fired from work because the AI can do the work, etc. Though you are right, we can't prevent it as it is part of technology. Let's just adapt to it since we have nothing to do.

We can't do nothing? Of course we can do something. We can always participate in a movement that prevents people from developing  AIs. It is very much possible that a lot of employees will be laid off to work because the AI are more efficient, consistent, and more effective than what humans can produce.
We are all enjoying what the AIs could offer to us to help us ease our jobs and activities to do, but I always thought there are far more worst thing to happen to us as we progress to a more advanced AI robots.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: ivankoh on April 06, 2023, 05:38:23 AM
saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
The impact of robots and their combination with AI depends on the people themselves.  Its consequences are likely to be severe for those who use them, applying them to the bad guys.  In other words, what we've seen in robot movies is a baseline of its impact.  The risk of a future war that can be controlled by AI and robots, which we can predict is becoming well-founded.  where AI is the main component that changes its nuances and implications.  Even private data, it's entirely possible.  That's why the first European Country, Italy, had to temporarily disable ChatGPT because of its related effects.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Lida93 on April 06, 2023, 09:39:54 AM
The programmer can just put rules for the AI.
1. Don't hurt humans
Literally have you sat down to have a second thought of a possible hack on these AI robotics by a heinous and calamitous individual or group with an aim of causing harm with it. Thereby changing the data script from don't hurt humans to hurt/kill humans just to achieve a desire purpose. We have seen in movies how these AI robots turns out to be dangerous posing a homicide threat to the lives of families who bought and cohabit it in their homes for a supposed specific function.

These things as shown in movies some may argue as just fictions but I believe they must have done a thorough underground researching about the possible negative aspects of these AI infiltration into human society and movies are just a way of giving us a warning of impending outcome.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: LogitechMouse on April 07, 2023, 01:56:51 AM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
It's a bit ironic that Bill Gates is even putting billions of dollars into OpenAI to fund them on developing ChatGPT,  but he himself is also concerned on the possible risks of AI.

With AI being that early, I don't know if what will be the future of it. I mean AI has many positives that can give to every person, but there are also negative that it can also give to us. I mean one positive is that, we can make our jobs online in a shorter amount of time. Aside from that, we can also answer questions that we are having a hard time answering it. AI makes people more efficient than ever. Now on the other hand, because of AI, there is a huge possibilities that there will be employees or people who will not have any job anymore in the future. Because of AI, we are already seeing pictures that are very inappropriate (like what they did our Pope where there are pictures of him that has clothes that doesn't usually being wore by a Pope).

There are some countries that are already against into it, and we've seen AI for months only. We don't know what AI can bring to humans in the future, and what will it be. Will it be beneficial to us? Or will it be harmful. Probably both.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Bitcoin2009 on April 07, 2023, 06:28:41 AM
Current market conditions look good and promising, the opportunity for rising is huge so buying more at this time will make us happy and happy, we hope to get big profits soon if we want to invest from now on. don't care too much about FUDs because it is normal and part of the investment.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: karmamiu on April 07, 2023, 06:54:19 AM
It's a natural matter when it comes to development imo. I mean, there's probably a lot of stuff that was discovered/invented that had good intentions, but was used for something wrong or could have potentially negative consequences. Then again with the advent of globalization, rules and laws that would surround new developments can be developed much faster compared to back then, so I don't think their fears are unfounded, and it also doesn't help how seemingly fast AI has developed these past few months (or years), but I reckon it would be remedied sooner or later.
Just like how humans created sharp objects like knives to aid them on hunting, cooking and even building their homes, yet after conflicts happened in different tribes, it was used to become a deadly weapon to aid them during those times. There is no difference in whatever was created for the purpose of improving one's life, there will always be other side of every good story, and this why it has to be expected that there will be people being wary about this development due to what happened so far in our history.

We cannot deny that AI will significantly improve our life specially in technology, but what people really is afraid of isn't something significant such as misused of technology, but the things about losing their jobs due to the replacement of much more efficient(debatable) and unlimited worker which is the robots powered by AI. We've already seen so many sci-fi movies to know the possibilities of such technology, and what they are only fantasizing on the screen is closely approaching to them and somehow, they felt like being threatened for their survival or being robbed of opportunity.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: darewaller on April 07, 2023, 08:08:43 AM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
We are in the world of new technology and the new invention is always on the plan from the different developer it is really a threat but we will surely see this things in the future, we cannot stop it, this is a new generation with the worlds that full of new discovery and we are about to see different types of robotics invention i believe that it is a threats but we still need to try it and if there was a mistake then stop it for good.
I think ever new invention will be something some people will be afraid of. I am sure some people were afraid of the computers, and some were afraid of internet as well, I remember that, and I am sure there are a lot of people who are afraid that their phones listen to them today.

So whenever you build something new, there will be people who will be afraid of it, and I can tell you that it's not going to be that scary at all, it's going to be as boring as it gets and not going to annoy or hurt anyone. This isn't even a proper AI, it can't hurt anyone, it's a chat software that is boring and not going to be able to do anything with it at all, it's going to be nothing.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Tony116 on April 07, 2023, 08:40:26 AM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
We are in the world of new technology and the new invention is always on the plan from the different developer it is really a threat but we will surely see this things in the future, we cannot stop it, this is a new generation with the worlds that full of new discovery and we are about to see different types of robotics invention i believe that it is a threats but we still need to try it and if there was a mistake then stop it for good.
I think ever new invention will be something some people will be afraid of. I am sure some people were afraid of the computers, and some were afraid of internet as well, I remember that, and I am sure there are a lot of people who are afraid that their phones listen to them today.

So whenever you build something new, there will be people who will be afraid of it, and I can tell you that it's not going to be that scary at all, it's going to be as boring as it gets and not going to annoy or hurt anyone. This isn't even a proper AI, it can't hurt anyone, it's a chat software that is boring and not going to be able to do anything with it at all, it's going to be nothing.

Developing technology is not scary, but many people fear that it is overused or falls into the wrong hands. AI technology is not only a chat software for us to find information, but it can also do much more. For example, Robots that can replace human jobs are also a concern because many people will become unemployed and be used for evil purposes. If you're a fan of sci-fi and superhero movies, you know how scary AI can be, although we are not there yet, we are moving toward it.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: CODE200 on April 07, 2023, 01:01:57 PM
No matter how we fear AIs, it will still exist because of the innovation of technology. Nowadays, people prefer fast and easier task which could be done by the help of AIs so we can't avoid their development and their contribution to society. It's just frustrating that they could possibly replace humans in the future but not matter what we do, big companies are now switching to it. It could save finances for huge businesses and can decrease manpower.
AI keep improving as times goes by, many innovation have arises and they becoming more powerful in todays time. I already saw one business of hotdog in a bread where robots are the one who preparing it for the customer. By that we can see how far they go now, and we should expect more and more in the future. It is inevitable but I believe it can control since we still human are the ones who are making them.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: trendcoin on April 08, 2023, 07:48:10 PM
We don't have to go. We can become robots and join them. Doesn't currents like transhumanism aim for that?

Of course I'm trying to make a joke. :) We should have some concerns about AI, but those concerns should be more about job losses than some kind of civil war. As artificial intelligence technologies develop, valuable branches such as medicine and law will be taken over by robots. This will undoubtedly be a boon for people who do not have access to a doctor. At the same time, legal decisions made with artificial intelligence will be more reliable because it will be fairer for people. So, I believe there are more good sides than bad sides. I'm not pessimistic about this.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: bangjoe on April 08, 2023, 08:07:18 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
We don't know where to go after this and we don't know what the future will be like, is it possible that we will live side by side with robots like in the movies or we will fight against robots later, in this development Ai is also growing actively in helping human work to become more efficient in archiving data, scary things when oriented towards negative thoughts about this technological advancement, the presence of AI itself will be a threat to some sectors in work, for example in data processing work, but AI comes with many solutions to help humanity, so according to I depend on how you perceive the phenomenon of this technological advancement.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: SirLancelot on April 08, 2023, 08:51:40 PM
The concerns are legitimate I would say. Those mocking Elon for his statements are very likely Elon haters. They will hate and trash talk about Elon every time he does something. Its not like I am a huge supporter of Elon, but the way every now and then you hear about Elon on the new media ever since Musk decided to takeover twitter, it makes me think how all the media is controlled and biased.
It is true that AI can be a problem in the future if the development of AI isn't done responsibly and keeping ethical considerations in mind. But that doesn't mean we will stop developing AI technology. It is helping us to advance massively faster than before. It is just that we have to make sure it is regulated and used only for good causes (which I doubt will happen).
They think Elon is joking again because Elon is one of the creators of AI. He also invents a chip that will be installed inside the human body. It was like we are slowly transforming a robot and now he will say that he is scared of AI? How ironic and that is why people are annoyed about him. I still idolize this guy on his other inventions like the Mars exploration and satellite internet but I do have some hate with him, the most obvious one would be the manipulation of crypto market.

Media is not biased or controlled, its just Elon is too influential and him acquiring Twitter is a big thing that needs to be reported all over the world. Speaking of Twitter, Elon did it again. He change the logo and it can be a form of manipulating Doge at his advantage. If you have doubts about the AI then its development must be stop for good before all of us regret it later on.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: libert19 on April 09, 2023, 02:22:37 AM
Far fetched. First robots will have to be independent, also take rumours as rumours. Humans have more problems amongst themselves, if they could take care of that, it will be more than enough.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: tjtonmoy on April 09, 2023, 09:25:45 AM
It's not the robots, machines or AI. It's us. It's the human. Depending on our needs, we can program them to our liking. But if one choose to do it in the other way around, then yes. It is very likely harmful for us.
Something is considered a weapon, only when it's being used as a weapon. We are the one who created it and if we use it for destruction, then of course it's a harmful device. But as I said, we humans are the reason that it may turn on us and consider us as a threat. Which could still be avoided if we do the thing right. Gates and Elon, just trying to create fear into people's mind so that others wouldn't think of doing something with AI and become successful with them. And later on they are the ones who showed the best interest in AI later on.
It's just our own imagination and effect of watching so many fictional movies.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: summonerrk on April 09, 2023, 05:28:06 PM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?

Let's clarify some things:
- Elon Musk was at the origin of the creation of OpenAI, and at the same time he is seriously concerned that AI can harm humanity, and AI needs to be regulated now. His opinion is authoritative, but while the public that creates the Mask does not listen to it, we only hear about the release of new versions of ChatGPT.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/15/elon-musk-co-founder-of-chatgpt-creator-openai-warns-of-ai-society-risk.html

- As for Bill Gates, he is for the development of AI, and they said that new versions of Windows will have AI-based functions.

https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/bill-gates-says-chatgpt-is-revolutionary-in-new-blog-post/448138

So the opinions of these leaders are different.

I believe that it is necessary to regulate And And already now! Why? Yes, because we can no longer distinguish the posts on the forum that I wrote from those that people write. Regulation is very weak now.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Joshapat on April 10, 2023, 09:25:21 AM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?


Change cannot be stopped, now more and more people or companies are developing AI, it might look like it will be a threat because a lot of work will be done by AI, causing unemployment, but we must always think from the positive side, if a lot of things are done by AI, of course it is more economical and can save production costs.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Betwrong on April 12, 2023, 07:49:04 AM
Nah i think that will never happen it just some terminator thing. AI is just a tool that help us to solve problem it will never threat us human. The only threat is human it self, we dont know how people use technology in a good way or bad way.

Makes sense, but how can you be sure? Do you know how it is trained, and what part humans play in that training? Because people who know express their concerns. And if you don't believe them maybe you know better? I'm not joking right now, I'm serious. Maybe you read something pretty convincing regarding "AI will never threat us human"? Give us a link.

will it happen like that? or whether their estimates were correct.
if that's the case then there won't be any more AI developments in the future if indeed their prediction will come true.
considering it's the same as what happened in the movie it would be terrible if it happened

Right now we, all the countries in the world, can't unite to be developing AI together. If one country halts the development, another may continue. And there's a good probability that it will continue.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: monineklutak on April 12, 2023, 10:09:59 AM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?


Change cannot be stopped, now more and more people or companies are developing AI, it might look like it will be a threat because a lot of work will be done by AI, causing unemployment, but we must always think from the positive side, if a lot of things are done by AI, of course it is more economical and can save production costs.
I think that's a consequence of technological progress because there will always be a positive side and a negative side,
with this convenience I think we also need to be wise in using AI,
in universities it seems that now there are those who can detect AI so that it cannot be used arbitrarily to do assignments.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: Betwrong on April 17, 2023, 10:31:57 AM
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I think that's a consequence of technological progress because there will always be a positive side and a negative side,
with this convenience I think we also need to be wise in using AI,
in universities it seems that now there are those who can detect AI so that it cannot be used arbitrarily to do assignments.

The positive side always outweighs the negative one. Maybe not right away, but in the long run it surely happens. AI will cancel many jobs, but it won't be the end of the world, we just have to be prepared. Right now we should be studying to be skilled in the new jobs that will appear in the near future because of the AI development.


Title: Re: Where do we go from here
Post by: brother brother on April 18, 2023, 06:45:52 AM
We are in the scientific or electronics age, where everything is computerized, the system has changed to a systematic world, and the world is turning to a global village where many parts or geographical location of the world have access to phone many electronic devices, many industry, company, offices, economic sectors operates with these electronic devices as means of improvement all around the world there have been more systematic means and operation for more economic and increase in social standard.